Canon EOS R6 vs Sony a7 IV vs Nikon Z6 II: Which Camera SHOULD You Buy? (2022)
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This video compares the Canon EOS R6, Sony a7 IV and Nikon Z6 II to help you make a decision on which one might be the right one for you in 2021 / 2022. I put them head to head to give you as much information on deciding on which mirrorless camera is right for you.
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Nikon. Their S glass is so sweet, and the Viewfinder actually gives the most natural experience. In terms of ISO, they are in a league if their own. I say this as a current Canon shooter.
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I can't wait to see the "I SHOOT NEF" fro shirts when the Z III's hit the market. Seeing all the other Nikon comments within these comments is VERY interesting. My Z7II JPG's are fantastic btw. I tested loading nearly identical Canon, Sony, and Nikon RAW images into LRC, all with neutral camera profiles, hit Control-U, and Nikon was the clear winner. The F4S lenses are fantastic, and I don't need as many lenses or primes with the Z system, because the zooms are so good.
Replaced my D7100 with a Z6II...very happy camper. Very curious what the Z6III will look like if it ever surfaces. The Z glass is absolutely spectacular and when they start supporting the third parties like Tamron and Sigma I'll be even happier.
This is very helpful! I shoot on a D500 and D5600. Looking to trade out the D5600 with the Z6II to move into the full frame space. I'm sure it will be better than anything I have now. Curious, did you use any adaptors on the Z body? I have some FX lenses want to figure out if it's worth it.
@@Sammoab I use the FTZ adapter currently, getting rid of my DX lenses but will keep the F mount FF lenses for now. My F mount 70-200 f4 works great on my Z6II with the FTZ.
thanks! This is the same move I'll be making, Jarod's constant bashing of the Nikon AF has me a little leary of the purchase but I like so much else about Nikon and I already own some F mount FF glass. I've been so unhappy with my AF on my D7100 (my wife's D5200 misses fewer shots) that the Z6ii should definitely be an upgrade.
@@jeremyk2740 seriously, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. 😎📸
If you want to jump between photos and video literally instantly, for hybrid coverage, the z6ii is brilliant.
The real reason Sony is the winner here is because of Tamron and Sigma glass. The fact that you can have quality glass for much less is a God send
You're so right! Just got my Tammy 28-75mm G2 lens.
absolutely right！
Give a couple of years...sigma has a very high failure rate
@@jeepjoseph9036 lmao ok bruh u smokin crack
@@jeepjoseph9036 wtf are you talking about... Fro keeps Sigma glass in his bag for a reason. The Art line is beautiful. Just look at the 35mm 1.2 and I own the 35 GM
Made it all the way. Having seen Nikon image quality, and being able to get the job done with the AF on the Z5, I have to say I'd pick the Z6II.
#madeitalltheway
I'm somewhat puzzled by this almost mythical "image quality". Just how is it superior to that from the Sony sensors?
Perhaps you should have a look at Gavin Hardcastle's photos on flickr then see if the "quality" is lacking there.
@@kevinrtres Nikon users are idots is my conclusion 🤣 I have heard this countless times. And as a former Nikon user and now on Sony, image quality on all 3 is very even. I prefer Sony due to third party lens options 😅 plus the GMs like 50 1.2 🥰😍
Hold on just a minute, you do realised Fro said the exact same thing about Nikon picture quality in his video, right? 🤔🤣
@@vickosis I do, but to him it doesn't outweigh the focus issues. To me it does.
I'm not out here hating on Fro
@@lifeafterbeats Me neither as in I couldn't give a $h17 TBH although it's kinda annoying having to constantly listen to peeps talk about Fro this and Fro that if you know what I mean.
I don't hate on him either, although I suspect he did tear down my review on his Z9 spec sheet reading from the Nikon forum, but that's another story. Anyhow IMO if anyone needs to rely heavily on a bit of AF software to get the shots they otherwise would have missed they clearly are not a Pro and probably should't be wearing an I shoot NEF shirt or whatever. As for the rest of the $hitshow all I can smell is a rat and that' pretty much all there is to say.
I bought a Nikon Z5 for a thousand bucks. Dual cards, IBIS, and a 24mp sensor. Waiting for the next gen Nikon for better autofocus as it trickles down from the Z9. I really like the image quality of Nikon compared to Sony and Canon. I have a lot of older Nikon glass and am really excited to see the new F mount adapter without the tripod hump.
The Z5 is probably the most underrated full frame on the market. Does it compete with pro bodies? No. But for everyone else, the Z5 is a truly great place to start. A Z5 with the 24-200mm Z lens gets you out the door for under two thousand US dollars and it's more than enough camera for 90% of the people watching this right now. And that's coming from a Canon R5 guy 😉
I would really like this camera but they crippled it just a little too much to make it entry level full frame. It's great that it has IBIS but video is cropped significantly. And then in burst mode you're only getting 4.5 shots/sec which is almost useless.
@@WolfgangWhyte well said!
@@dsoprano13 I hear you on the video end - the big crop sucks, even with the Z 20mm 1.8 prime. But the 4.5 burst rate... yeah, that's useless if you're trying to catch a football right on the receiver's fingertips or that perfect moment when an eagle takes flight, but I was mainly speaking to the 90% who really aren't reaching that high. The landscapers, the streeters, the portrait hounds - the Z5 is great for them at a fraction of the cost of your R5's, A1's, and now Z9's🙂
I have to Sony a7r3 bodies and a a6400 with various primes. I looked at Nikon because of their 24-70 s lens which I found to be better than the Sony gmaster version. Went with the Nikon Z7ii and have been very happy. As you stated, I prefer the images of the Nikon, colors and skin tones. Autofocus hold up well for me. Check my chanel to see how the z7 performs autofocusing for portraits and video.
There are many people giving reviews but once again your presentation is enjoyable to watch and you actually know what your talking about ... Big Props Jared
It's fun to go back to reviews like this after these cameras have aged. Canon's lens prices are a huge drawback. Sony probably has the best lens options. The focus system on the Z6II is good for portrait, landscape, and street photography in my view. The R6 is probably the best for action, but be prepaired to shell out big bucks ($2k or more) for even their older EF lenses.
VILTROX IS GETTING THIRD PARTY LENSES FOR NIKON Z MOUNT, Love the image quality of the nikon cameras!
#igotthisfar
#teamnikon !
If I was starting out, I'd probably start with the Nikon since most of the lenses are Nikon mount. You can still get amazing shots with any of these cameras too. It's insane how good these 3 cameras are. Also to add, for the new photographers, no one is going to judge you with the gear you have, especially if you can create astonishing images. :)
#igotthisfar
I chose Nikon. I do mostly landscape stuff so it didn't really matter when it came to the speed of the autofocus. I just love the colors I get from their sensors. Can't really go wrong with any of them these days though.
Why is Nikon the better choice for landscape? Is it the slower shutter speeds?
@@PabloAGarcia73 He said he loves the colors
I stuck with Nikon for the same reason and I really love the form factor and the buttons. As you said as long as you don't need lightning quick AF on moving subjects, it's a fantastic camera.
I feel I noticed Nikon has deeper colors than canon years ago. I wasn’t too into photography but that was my impression .
Seeing videos won’t people comparing photos from these , for some reason the differences seem less . I wonder if the new tech has taken away a bit of the vibe?
Anyone else notice this?
I think you should put a note on MP when talking about FPS. Some may not remember, the FPS is related to the MP.
Sure the Canon is fastest but the MP is limited to 20.
New Firmware Updates are out from Nikon for the Nikon Z 50, the Z 5, the Z 6 Mark I and Z 7 Mark I including improvements in Eye-AF Tracking.
That's what makes camera reviews so crazy, new updates come out faster than reviews can be published :) Will be interested to see by how much these new updates improve eye tracking and if suddenly these cameras hang with the Z9!
It's a minor update. It will not upset the Sony and canon af Systems.
@@MT-eb2dx it is a very big update, the eye af tracking power double up
@@MarcoYu-x5b hm, ok, will try to revisit it. Any running dog towards the camera success?
I got this far! I am currently in the market for a camera of the caliber you've reviewed and I am leaning towards the R6 because I like the buttons, menu, feel, ease of use, autofocus, and the ability of 12 to 20fps.
I purchased a7iii for a good price and saved enough money to buy 24-70f2.8 sigma and 85 f1.8 with extra battery and 2 Hoya filters and a SD card for 12000 AED.
I sold my a7iii about a year ago and bought a9. Still a beast. I don’t think I would do a lot of videos, so I probably should wait a9iii. Hope it will have 33 mp.
A7IV could be the experiment for A9iii
@@SMoeun-zs9ji I disagree. A1, the perfect hybrid, is already here and still unmatched by any other camera. All Sony needs to do rn is to cripple each model based on pricing.
I don't care about 33MP. If it can't match Canon R3 in terms of photo and video spec, it'd be disappointing.
Yeah I did the exact same thing. Sold off the a7iii and went to the a9. The age of the a9 worried me at first but it was way ahead of the game when it came out and firmware updates (significant ones at that) made it even a bigger monster over time. The camera still beats all 3 of these models in many categories as far as photography goes. Video is another story but the a9 is still amazing to this day.
"About a minute after the Z9’s announcement on Thursday October 28th, it just went insane,” said Gray Levett, owner of long-established London dealership, . “Raffi, our sales manager, and myself were in the office until just before midnight on the day, still handling orders. We saw the highest number of pre-orders in a single day in our history, and we’ve been in business for 35 years. It even eclipsed the D850, which was off the charts, and the D3.”
Amazing place. Purchased several cameras from them
Lots of people with *_LOTS_* of money!!!
tell me about it! Sony a7IV pre-orders were off the charts!!! Never have anyone ever seen a camera this damn good
@@harryvuemedia5106 You seem to have some inside info...what kind of numbers can you recall about the Sony A7IV camera? That would be interesting to know.
These videos must take an insane amount of time and effort to make
LOL
Just got an R6 and I'm very happy with it. The main reason to get Canon was all the EF glass I already had. It did make sense to stick with it. I'll probably will be swapping to more RF glass in the future but I'm covered so far.
I bet most of those lenses work fine on the R6
I'm leaning in the same direction for the same reason. I want to upgrade from my 60D to a full-frame camera that shoots 4K with a bit more dynamic range than standard 8-bit, plus all the benefits of ten years of R&D, while keeping all my glass. Was looking at the EOS-R first, but the crop factor in 4K is kind of a dealbreaker. My widest lens is an EF-S, so it's going to have pretty much the same crop factor as I already have, but it's 10-22mm so it's still pretty wide.
I was initially bummed to learn that there isn't (and might never be) a Magic Lantern build for that camera, but then I learned that Canon has taken almost all the ML features I use and made them native in the R6. Almost.
I just learned from this video (which is now a month old) about redundant video recording. Guess Canon's been paying attention to the reviews.
Thinking of getting the r6 too. I currently own the tamron 150-600 and old Canon 300mm lenses. I would be moving up from my old t2i
@@stephencurah1059 One thing to keep in mind. This will sound totally wrong at first but hear me out.
The R6 has a slightly higher resolution than the T2i, but the T2i has a 1.6x crop factor. What this means is that the individual pixels on the R6's sensor a physically larger. Great for low-light performance, but that does mean fewer pixel's per mm of the image projected on the sensor itself. So if you're at maximum zoom, 600mm, and looking at the Moon, the T2i is going to give you more pixels of "Moon", and the R6 will give you fewer.
It only really matters if you really need the extra resolution though. I'm very happy with my R6. I don't need the resolution for my work, at least not to the extent that I could justify the cost of switching brands or getting an R5.
@@tom_something t556yt4 50mm y5t4,5tt6t,4yrtr577c0
I am going to wait for the Z7 III featuring an expeed lightning.
Thank you for the great breakdown. I went with the Sony. After a lot of research it was always between the Cannon and Sony. Over the last several weeks it came down to the shutter speed of the Cannon vs the cost of the glass from Sony. Money won. I ordered my Sony body with the Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 Art Lens and saved $1,300 dollars right out of the gate compared to the Canon RF. No looking back now.
Where did you get those savings from ?
@@EC-iu3yb Buying sigma instead of canon lens i think?
Now that you've had some time with this setup are you happy with your choice? I'm currently debating on going with the same setup. I really like the Canon user experience, but the new Sony bodies and menus have improved drastically and the Sony/Sigma combo can't be touched price wise with Canon and their glass.
As someone who has been shooting for 7-8 years with a Canon T5i (and shot on a Canon 6D for a few months for a previous job) I had been waiting for both of these camera's to come out before making my decision of which system to invest in when making the jump to full frame. For me, I am leaning towards the Sony with my main deciding factors being the higher mp and all of the third party lenses available. Other more minor things include no record limit, the digital hot shoe to pair with sony mics without cords, full hdmi port, and the ability to switch from photo to video modes and keep the settings (not sure if the R6 does that). It's definitely not an easy decision though.
Sony is good for all use cases but the body is a bit priced like canon. Personally, I'd go with sony for low light photograpy and videography because of the BSI sensor, and the lenses choices. For landscape Nikon colors, contrast, weather sealing are the best (I think they also use sony sensors). For portraits, I'd go with any of them, even the RP does a very good job for portraits
R6 cant do it the custom profiles (C1,C2,C3) ae only for photo
I moved from Nikon DSLR to Sony A7 III because of the better lens selection, smaller/lighter body, and the availability of 3rd party glass. Extremely happy with the decision.
Tough decision for sure. I'm moving up from the t2i and I stuck between the r6 and a4
Stick to Canon if color science is important to you.
Just sold all my old canon aps-c stuff (3 bodies, 5 lenses, a couple adapters… all of them had different batteries and chargers filling two pelican cases🤦🏽)… to condense down to ONE camera and lens…
I’m mainly video… but I’d like to learn photography.
Decided to go with the Sony A7iv and the Sigma 24-70 2.8 art lens…
Hoping to keep it simple for a while 😅
I’ve ordered the Z9
Me: cries in poor... anyway congrats
Good choice
@@vukasinmartinovic2243 thanks I’m now broke lol
@@tcwhite0104 Not as much if you bought a Sony, and don't forget about the grip!
@@tcwhite0104 lmao
I don't understand this Nikon bashing. I use a Z6II and take pictures of weddings with it. The picture quality is outstanding and the pictures are 99% sharp. The problem in most cases is not the camera, as the guy behind the camera.
It's is overly exaggerated to say AF on the Nikon is bad because not everybody is shooting high action sports and birds in flight the whole time.
I wouldn't take it as Nikon bashing. If I hadn't gone mirorless as an early adopter on the Sony and went FF later, I would go Nikon. At the time, Nikon and Pentax shooter would bash Sony because mirorless isn't a true system (no mirror? Wtf). But it's all a subjective comparison against what I like/need.
Nowadays I shoot a lot of kid photos (playgrounds, parties) and kids move fast. It's worse than sports. Sony AF is second to none when helped by decent glass.
I still shoot Nikon film and I'd love me a Z6 (I or II) but I fear it would just sit there.
#IMadeItThisFar - I still think the Sony has an advantage on how much cheaper their native lenses are compared to Canon's. Not to say that Canon's latest lenses aren't amazing in their own right, but looking at a monetary front.. its an easy choice I would think
Especially with tamron and sigma glass on Emount being just as sharp or about 90 percent as sharp as gmaster stuff for half the price
I agree the Nikon Z5 or (Zee 5) is entering camera. The Z6 II is better camera than Z5, but I still went with the Z5 due to the price. When I went to Air Show at Cherry Point, I wished I got more than 4.5 continuous shooting. I agree the Sony and Canon does have a better AutoFocus, but for what I shoot the picture quality is more important. I do more landscape than action shot.
Jared, Viltrox has 24, 35, 50 and 85 for the Z mount.
I rented a Canon R6 last summer and it was amazing how beginner friendly cameras now are!
You need to test the Viltrox Z mount glass for Nikon. Surprisingly good, AF at 24, 35m and 85.
it's ok, waiting for sigmas Z
@@montazownianr1 gonna be waiting for a long time for Sigma and Tamron.
Got an R6 after using Canon DSLRs starting with the 10D up to 5D mkiv and 6D mkII. I am simply overwhelmed by the performance of the R6 in speed, lowlight quality and autofocus. Since I have some 25 EF lenses I was not really up to switch all of my lenses. But now I‘ve got the 35/1.8 IS and the 50/1.8 RF versions and it just feels so well and the results are so good I am really tempted to get rid of my EF park and invest in fewer but absolutely superb RF lenses.
20 mp tho
@@ralph5609 It's more than plenty if you know what you're shooting.
Re: lenses. Nikon has 3rd party support in Viltrox (with AF) and other niche lens manufacturers. Not exactly on par with Sigma or Tamron quality, but not bad at all, especially if you're starting out and looking to save a few $. Also, since the Z-mount is the largest mount, you can also adapt tons of other glass to it... including Sony E-mount glass with AF! So with the Nikon system you have access to Nikon Z and limited 3rd party, Nikon F and 3rd party, Sony E and 3rd party. So if you want those excellent and affordable Tamron or Sigma ART DN Sony mount lenses on your Nikon Z, the $250 Megadap ETZ11 adapter gets you there. I know it's not official support, but it seems to perform well and is worth looking at and mentioning in your video.
My impression is he lefts important things like this out in favor of Sony.
@@theartofimaging618 Possibly, or he is simply not aware. However that kind of goes against his brand. Controversy creates clicks and comments - here we are feeding the machine.
I would go with the Sony. I am a non-professional enthusiast and have had Nikon forever. However, I only have one expensive lens ($1000 ), and my pro-summer d7000 camera is getting old, and it misses focus every time! I have done a few weddings, some college level sports, a little wildlife. Focus and Low Light are what matter to me the most. I have also transitioned into mostly video. The video on my d7000 looks great, but it takes a lot of work and good conditions for decent results. I want a camera that does a good job, without all the fuss.
The α7 IV's burst up to 10 fps raw is in drive mode Hi+, which-as unmentioned in this video [07:06]-conceals the present scene and displays the prior shot [1,2]. The fastest burst while viewing live, as to track critical action, is in drive mode Hi, which offers up to 8 fps [1,2].
But, while 10 fps raw, Hi+, is usable on subjects staying roughly on axis or predictable [3], it needs a CFexpress type A card [1]. A capacity 160 GB costs some 400 USD. Further, on SD card, the buffer drops from over 800 frames to some 25 frames [4]. Also, the clunky shutter likely wastes some resolution [5,6].
Anyhow, the benefit of either uncompressed raw or lossless compressed raw versus standard compressed raw is generally insignificant, as is 14 bits. The standard compressed file may impart more noise near the periphery of highlights that are basically blown [7,8], and may fall apart in post- if the exposure is raised over 3 stops [9,10]. The 14 bits versus 12 bits figures to add another 2 stops leeway [9], _if_ raw capture was near base ISO [11].
About video, Sony's imposition of Super35mm format-a 1.5x crop factor-on α7 IV's 4K 60 fps can complicate shooting [32:23]. It can require more lenses, lens changes, and gimbal rebalancing. And, on any lens, it increases the shallowest depth of field by about one stop, rendering f/2.8 like f/4. These differences can be critical if, let's say, using Sony's FE PZ 28-135mm f/4, an ENG zoom, on fullframe to duplicate an 18-90mm f/2.8 cine zoom on Super35mm. When shooting 4K 60 fps, one would get, after all, 28-135mm f/4 on Super35mm.
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1) Gordon Laing, "Sony A7 IV review: Photography vs A7 III vs EOS R6 part one", sec "A7 IV focus and burst speeds", RUclips @ _/watch?v=8Mil4Jn51Fc&t=957s,_ 21 Oct 2021.
2) Ryan Mense, "Sony Alpha 7 IV review: The best camera Sony ever made. . . almost", _PetaPixel,_ 21 Oct 2021.
3) Jason Vong, "Sony a7 IV-the upgrade we've been waiting four!", sec "Autofocus performance is so fast!", RUclips @ _/watch?v=eVvUs9lFatY&t=444s,_ 21 Oct 2021, indicates simply "10 fps" while showing footage of α7 IV's monitor during burst with subject walking on axis toward camera on tripod, which footage to me looks compatible with display either of present scene or of prior shot.
4) Dan Watson, "Sony A7IV | 20 best & worst features on Sony's latest mirrorless camera", RUclips @ _/watch?v=oeZQzYJWbvE&t=496s,_ 29 Oct 2021.
5) Dan Watson, "Sony A7IV | 20 best & worst features on Sony's latest mirrorless camera", RUclips @ _/watch?v=oeZQzYJWbvE&t=106s,_ 29 Oct 2021.
6) Sony's quieter shutters were introduced in 2015 with the α7R II, whereby Sony advertises, "The new shutter's braking mechanism cuts mechanical front/rear curtain vibration by about 50%." "This not only minimizes camera shake that can blur details in 42.4-megapixel images-it makes the shutter durable enough to have been tested to 500,000 cycles."
7) Richard Butler, "What difference does it make? Sony uncompressed raw", _DP Review,_ 23 Sep 2015.
8) Bright highlights mildly overexposed seemingly show no difference in compressed raw versus uncompressed raw [Mike Smith, "Raw compressed vs uncompressed Sony A7III", RUclips @, _/watch?v=euVGDd3S9U8&t=239s,_ 11 Apr 2019].
9) Greg Benz, "8, 12, 14 vs 16-bit depth: What do you really need?!", _PetaPixel,_ 19 Sep 2018.
10) In an α7 III, uncompressed may show no to scant difference-maybe perceptible at 4x magnification-until underexposure by 4 stops and then raising 4 stops in post- may ruin compressed raw [Mike Smith, "Raw compressed vs uncompressed Sony A7III", RUclips @ _/watch/?v=euVGDd3S9U8&t=302s,_ 11 Apr 2019].
11) Richard Butler, "Raw bit depth is about dynamic range, not the number of colors you get to capture", _DP Review,_ 1 Sep 2017. To see benefit from raw beyond 12 bits on, for instance, the α7 III, one may shoot up to ISO 400, where dynamic range is some 13 stops, or from ISO 640, where DR rises again to just over 14 stops, until ISO 1600, where it is just under 13 stops [Rishi Sanyal, "Sony a7 III dynamic range and high ISO improve over its predecessor", _DP Review,_ 17 Mar 2018].
My man did an entire academic article doe, citations and shit ☠
Ironic point 6 about Sony shutters, class-action a73 lawsuit on premature failure due to its design.
In 2022 I plan to replace my Canon 6D. I have 3 lenses with the EF mount. With an adaptor, I can save a ton of money on glass. But I want to get back into the Nikon system! Not sure what to do? This video was very helpful in explaining the different features of each system. Fortunately, I have some time to make a firm decision and see what new cameras come out in the new year. Thanks for sharing..............
If I were starting out today...Nikon. I mostly do landscape photography and an extra $500 will not get me a better camera (compared to the other two reviewed models). Money I could put toward a lens. Currently a 6D user and since I already have several good lenses, I could not financially change to Nikon. Two different slot cards is a waste for me, so the SD card slots in a 6D would work for me.
Time stamp badly needed
After Z9 had launch, and insane quality of Nikkor lens. I would said invest into Nikon would not failed you.
I have owned Sony Digital Cameras since the 90's. I love my AX53 Camcorder. But I have purchased two Canon
R6 Bodies and 3 RF Glass Pieces that just work. They are a joy to shoot with and the color out of camera is generally good enough quality that I don't need to grade the footage in post.
Huge Time saver!.
24-70 2.8, 15-35 2.8, and 50mm 1.8 glass are all rock solid.
As An A7iii shooter I think the A74 is a solid upgrade especially in the video deparment but I kinda wish they left the FPS @ 10 for at least the lossless compressed RAW and made both slots take either CF-A or SD cards. The A74 is not an entry level body anymore (They have the A7C for that) so I feel that both slots should take the same cards.
Yep the brand spanking new Sony is not an entry level camera at all (FFS it costs 2.5k after all!!) and yep this makes its pathetic FPS even worse, especially at that price point ... IMHO Sony is the big looser in this lineup, by a long shot!
@@vickosis I wouldn't say Sony is the clear loser in the roundup (aside from FPS). The video, AF and hardware design changes are all big upgrades compared to the A73. I would like to know though much editability you lose if you go to compressed RAW compared to Uncompressed/lossless compressed Raw.
This video is aimed at peeps who are "just starting out" and IMHO to invest 2.5k in any camera when starting out is just nuts, and then to pick one which has such a low FPS rate is just insane.
Do you really think this is such a huge upgrade to what you already have, really? Wow!
@@vickosis if you want high FPS, get an a9. I honestly could care less about the duo Type A card slots because those memory cards are already expensive enough. No one today will need 10 fps for non-sports and wildlife shots.
@@harryvuemedia5106 I too don't need it, I was merely trying to point out that the A7 IV doesn't appear all that to me for a camera with such a hefty price tag, that's all.
I was a Canon shooter (AP-C) and I was happy with my gear until I decided it was time to go full frame. Now back then it kinda made sense to keep my half doesn't lenses and upgrade my body, but I just didn't like the Canon full frame offering and I couldn't justify the huge price for the R6 which I fancied, so I looked around and coincidentally discovered the Nikon Z system. Oddly enough the more peeps like Fro started bashing it, the more I got interested. I seem to be a sceptic especially when it comes to all these vloggers and after weighing out the options I found an inexpensive Z 6 in mint condition to try out. Never looked back.
Nikon is the best camera manufacturer for me and they are head and shoulders above everyone except for this poxy AF which the likes of Sony currently have an edge, but it's already very close and Nikon AF is already extremely usable and improving all the time.
My short experience with the Z 6 was enough to persuade me to upgrade to the later model during last years Nikon sales. I didn't really need it if I'm honest, but I got it for about 400 bucks cheaper than it is today, which was a huge saving on top of what is already the best value for money camera on the market.
Still, obviously I wouldn't recommend anyone starting off to go for a Z 6II or equivalent, that's just crazy IMHO. I'd probably recommend an good APS-C camera or if they have money to burn an entry level full frame and for sure spend money on a good lens or two instead.
I was going to buy Canon R6, but I have just realised that Canon shuts support for third party lenses so I have just offered today Sony A7 IV with Tamron 28-78 2.8 and tomorrow i am gonna pick it up from the shop :) My first real camera after buying Nikon D5000 in 2010. Cannot wait!
As a landscape hobbyist photographer I think sticking with Nikon is what's best for me!
Great image quality, like my wide angle adapted lens, not enough compelling features in the others to change.
As i asked in the reply to the previous person, I'm somewhat puzzled by this almost mythical "image quality". Just how is it superior to that from the Sony sensors?
Perhaps you should have a look at Gavin Hardcastle's photos on flickr then see if the "quality" is lacking there.
I'm not criticizing your choice, just puzzled about the "image quality".
@@kevinrtres ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"mythical "image quality," no, no, just different color science and image quality I like and is accustomed to.
@@RickMentore Thanks, for making that clear. I was wondering if there was some marvelous technical issue involved.
The lumix S5 can give you 89mb pics on a tripod
I think the big issue is whether or not you want to trade out lenses, buy adaptors or upgrade across the board. I have dozens of F mount FX lenses some old some brand new and will slowly convert to Z format. Primarily because of the color rendition from Nikon and the familiarity of their menu layout and button arrays. Nothing wrong with either of the other brands. Its just what I am accustomed to after 35 years with Nikon.
I've waited to the launch of the Sony but bought the R6 and the RF 35mm f1.8 right away. Because of the 4k60 with no crop, but because here in Portugal (southern europe) there is such a huge market for Canon. We've got pages and pages of gear used and great discounts for Canon that I haven't seen in the other systems.
I like my Z6 a lot. Autofocus accuracy may not be as good as the others, but I really only notice it being a problem when using the 2x teleconverter on my 70-200 or with my Sigma 24-70 2.8 using the FTZ. The Sigma just seems to "hunt" a lot more than it did with my DSLR. Seriously thinking about selling it because I find myself using the Z 24-70 f4 instead most of the time.
I have a Z6 and both 35mm and 85mm and don't have any problem with autofocus. It's only a problem if you try to use eye autofocus when shooting fast action. This camera is not meant for sports or BIF.
@@mlai2546 I have no problem at all with autofocus speed using the native Z mount lenses. Even with shooting action.
@@mlai2546 With my Z6 I've had great results for BIF since the 3.4 update. It's finding and locking focus very fast.
I sold my z6s and got the canon R the best decision ever, after 15 years with Nikon, I cant stand Nikon as a company, screw them.
What exactly was your problem with nikon?
FYI That's 100 lives in Contra Up Up down down left right left right start (or select start for two players).
I'm going FF now. And I think I'll go for Nikon because I like the feel of the pictures more. I've seen a lot pictures from Sony & Canon as well, but I feel them too sharp, too clinical. For the photography I want, I want a more artistic feel, and only Nikon provides it (of the 3 options here). Also, I don't shoot action, so I can wait for Z6 III or Z6 IV for a better AF (now that we know that Nikon can do it)
Honestly that's fair. I do like Nikon color science more
@@mcwaffles121593 I am Nikon forever!
Stiill going with Nikon because of the images quality i get. I started with a canon traditional camera before and it broke less than 2 years, hated it so much that a few years after i got a Nikon F100 and never looked back.
Nikon provides medium format image quality with the D850 / Z 7 II at ISO 64. Still unmatched my the competition since the introduction of the D810 in 2014.
I would go Sony, Have always been a Nikon shooter since the 70's....recent purchase of a Sony has changed everything for me.
Lens Rentals conclusion after Nikon Z 7 teardown: "This is not marketing department weather resistance. This is engineering department weather resistance. Anything that can be sealed has been sealed. I’m impressed, and I will say for future cut-and-paste blurbs: this is as robustly weather sealed a camera as we’ve ever disassembled." Sony was a lot behind with weather resistance. Is this still the case?
no
@@fixxforliferedskies8428 Sony was a lot behind in weather sealing with the A7 II and A7 III. You can also find these articles on that page.
@@theartofimaging618 I already knew that.
I looking to buy a camera after having a pentax fail on me. I really like the sony and will probably end up with the a7.
Would be great to see timelapse features included between all 3. Nikon z6ii excels here: lenses focus to infinity when switched on, can do holy grail in P mode with exposure smoothing and it renders a 4K timelapse file simultaneously whilst shooting raw photos and comples the render even if the camera loses power.
That said can’t wait to see a z6iii hopefully next year with z9 Af system a resolution bump to complete with the others for moving subjects
I have a nikon z6ii that I got when It came out because I was already a nikon shooter. but if I started today I would choose the Canon R6. I've used the Canon R6 and the auto focus system is on another level when compared to the nikon z6ii. Just a better experience. Both great cameras though.
Coming from a Sony APS-C camera, I bought the R6 ten months ago, which is awesome. I bought it mostly because I didn’t want the 2 year old A7III, and couldn’t wait for The A7IV. Right now, I would be hard pressed to decide between the two. I was a little disappointed to hear about the Sony frame rate being limited to 6 for full res raw, but I would love the extra resolution of the 33mp sensor. Starting now I may have gone with Sony, but I don’t think I would switch because the R6 is a beast.
This is my exact scenario and my thoughts/analysis are almost identical✅
I’m trying to decide between Sony and canon. Only thing with canon is the expensive ass glass. I could wait for the 7iv or just get the a7iii. Currently have Fuji xt3. I’m just hobbyist nd kinda just shoot everything. Really enjoy wildlife and capturing family moments. I might just splurge on the canon r6 and just use the 24x105 that comes with for as long as possible while keeping the Fuji and determine later down the road if I wanna stay with canon
@@a97b18b canon have 24-240mm it's good for wildlife,.
@@a97b18b If you like wildlife the Canon is the best choice.
@@a97b18b for your requirement I think Canon is by far the best choice , none can beat their animal eye autofocus
Great video! I'm just considering starting out and I've learned so much here, not just about the cameras.
I love Canon but if I was starting over, I would go with Sony. Sony is less expensive compared to Canon and has a better 3rd party lens support.
I agree. Canon needs to get it together and allow 3rd party support. Sony has them beat in that category.
Canon has a lot of EF lens that works great on R cameras. No way I will never pay for third part lens.
@@SuomiFinland78 I understand and agree with you. That is why I said if I were starting over or starting new, I would go with Sony.
@@SuomiFinland78 sigma has been producing sharper lens than canons tho
Sigma lenses are amazing. More impressive than the canon lenses for sure so hopefully canon allows 3rd party soon. If they do there is less reason to go with sony. Both cameras are so similar at this point though so I guess it comes down to preference and details. Hopefully we see prices on full frame go down overall in the coming years. Still really expensive for anyone just doing this as a hobby.
#igotthisfar I would choose Sony.
I jumped from Panasonic to Nikon when the Z6 came out. I love the images off of this camera but It’s been a struggle. I can’t rely on eye autofocus so I’ve been setting my at points. That being said, moving those points is so slow that I end up changing my composition to get the shot. When I get in post I realize I messed up and hate the composition. I’ve been thinking about jumping ship to Sony until the Z9 came out. What a breath of fresh air. Now I’m saving up for the Z9.
As a Z6ii owner, I just figured I’d watch this entire video to be reminded the I purchased the third place camera. 😂 At least the Z9 gives me hope that a Z6iii might finally catch up.
I own Z6. I was going to chose between A7iii / XT3/Z6 . I thought I would get Sony as it was so good from all the reviews , but when I got hold of z6, I knew it was a camera, not just a tool.
In the end I choose the one I feel comfortable with , not the one has most ticks on the list .
I only wish they can release a firmware upgrade so Z6 can have better focus . Other than that . I am very happy with Z6’s photo quality.
@Apple Pear absolutely!
I was shocked when I read the news! Looks like Nikon is doing something right in 2021 and not holding anything back .
#igotthisfar I'm still on a Nikon 7100, and hope to make the transition to mirrorless soon. The Canon EOS R6 looks great, but so does the Sony a7 IV. To me, it's basically between the faster shutter speed and the 4K 60FPS of the Canon EOS R6, or the 33 MP of the Sony a7 IV. I do wish you would add in a segment of which manufacturer has a better step-up camera (basically, going from entry-level to mid-level). At this point, I'd have to go with the Sony a7 IV, as I'm mostly taking pictures with the camera. I can deal with the lower shutter speed, and since I'm post-processing, anyway, I end up doing a good bit of cropping. Thanks for the comparison review!
Why no Nikon Z 7 II with 45 MP sensor?
@@theartofimaging618 I haven't seen looked in to the Nikon Z II, yet. Coming from a DSLR, fast-moving shots are typically out of focus for most of my shots, and Nikon's Z6 II lags behind the others in this comparison review in terms of autofocusing, shutter speed, buffering, and stabilization. I love the image quality and sharpness of Nikon, but I feel limited in my ability to take certain types of shots, which is why I'm opting to move onto another manufacturer for mirrorless.
@@EbonKim So your impression is based on this video only?
@@theartofimaging618 No, my impression is based on another video, I just happen to comment on this one.
@@EbonKim So you haven't tested the camera by yourself and you are rating basically only by watching videos? That is not very realistic.
Eve after watching this I'm still plenty happy with my S1:)
What is a S1???
S1 S1H S5. Yes please.
Crazy I remember when you first started good to see you killing it on RUclips. 🤙🏾🤙🏾
"So lets go with 20 check marks right here for the Canon" Love it!
#I got this far.
I just bought the Sony A7 IV and own the A7 iii and A7 c. Totally happy with the A7 iv and its improvements over the iii. Love the ecosystem, maybe more than the brand, but these cameras perform and are well made. I principally shoot weddings, real estate and food, no sports or action and I have separate Panasonic video gear for that work. I was a Nikon DSLR owner for well over a decade, but Nikon was so late to the mirrorless game, I had to abandon ship, as so many other have done.
Sony is now the top selling mirrorless brand and Canon still leads the market with total sales (mirrorless/DSLRs). Both companies are great top tier choices. Unless I missed it in the video, I didn't hear anything about color science and the differences in the 3 brands. To me, this is the REAL game changer. If doesn't matter if you film in 10 bit or get 120FPS in 4k, what do the images look like out of the camera? THAT'S the rub, as they say. Interesting you failed to mention it. I suppose color science is so subjective, and is a matter of opinion it would be hard to rank or rate. But Jared, this one topic is why we pros buy this gear. Your opinion is valuable, we listen to you and what you say and make our choices (in part) based on your channel. How 'bout a video on color science on these cameras? Or do you already have one?
Simple truth, they are all three great cameras. It comes down to the lenses you might already own, and your particular preference for "feel in hand", which certainly varies between systems.
I wish there was a camera store near me so I could try them, but some stick on 3d printed grips, to make Grip a better shape and bigger.
And if you have mostly manual focus older lenses, you can be agnostic in brand of camera vs lenses. $20 dummy adapter. It’s only the more modern AF lenses that make use of the adapter AF for Nikon. I think the Canon system is better since the whole Nikon some lenses with and without motor drives with screw linkage. So Nikon shot themselves in the foot 20 years ago, but hey those were dx lenses anyway. (Meh lenses).
@@alexshdvideo Very true! I have some 1966 legacy lenses and they are fun to use on the R5/R6.
Yeah but the opening line was "For someone starting out ..." which I presume excludes peeps that are tied in to a brand with lots of glass
@@vickosis Not necessarily. It could mean those starting out with mirrorless.
About Nikon Z mount native 3rd party support, currently there's Laowa. They have some models with Z- mount.
It's Laowa, Irix, TTartisan, Mitakon, Viltrox, ...
@@theartofimaging618 Thank you.
I love my R6. 20MP hasn't held me back at all. Of course, I don't pixel peep all day long. Clients are happy, I'm happy... it's all good.
May i ask what is pixel peeping
@@Isaypreach Checking your image too much, zooming 100% - even with crazy zooming 500% and finally comparing to other brand with high MP. The R6 prodoce really really great image, very pleasing. Well sometimes I'll do it "pixel peeping" at my R6 hahahaha
I will start out with Sony A7IV
I will be sticking with Nikon thanks very much!
A mayor point for the Nikon Z6 II is the display on top, can't live without it since i got my D7100.
It's quite simple: For an all porpouse camera autofocus is key. CA, distorsión, vignetting, color rendition, etc can all be solved in pos. Due to budget reasons, I went into the z ecosystem. Dont let any camera take your enjoy for shooting away. They are all great.
I have Nikon but I'm stuck between the canon and Sony at this point 😱
I have the Z6ii and the Z5 for weddings. It's a great combo, and the whole system is great for the money. You can get 3 high-quality f/1.8 lenses (35, 50, 85) for the price of 1 Canon/Sony f/1.2 lens. The f/1.8's of canon and sony just aren't the as the Nikon's. Excited about the updated versions of the cameras for better-autofocusing systems. All systems seem great though, if I had to choose if I was starting out again, I'd definitely get all these cameras in my hands to test out and practice in real-world settings.
I totally agree about the lenses - the 1.8's are better by a mile than Nikon's old 1.4 f-glass and the amount of light between a 1.4 & a 1.8 is negligible making them such great value especially with Nikons DR capability! I genuinely believe that the z6/7iii (2nd gen effectively) will bring the one area (for certain shooting scenarios) they are lacking in up to par with the competition. And then as you say at the price vs Canon/Sony makes it almost a no-brainer
I also totally agree with Nikon's decision to release wonderful 1.8 glass first.
why both cameras? why not use the Z6ii for wedding? Just curious, as Im considering getting a Z6 or a Sony for real estate. Trying to decide.
@@Well-Put with weddings you always need 2 cameras so you have a back up. It's a one in a lifetime event and your clients expect you to capture their moments.
The Z6ii was just a little expensive for us to afford 2 of them right away, so we opted to but a Z5 for the back up instead.
Of you're doing real estate I don't think you need a back up, so putting more money in one body would be better. I'd definitely go with the Z6II if I were you. With real estate you don't need super fast auto focus, you need great pictures and great colours and the Nikon will deliver that. The lenses are also a bit cheaper, and you have the option to buy the 14-30 f/4 for real estate, which will be perfect.
@@3akoscielski Oh I see, makes perfect sense. I appreciate the input!
Viltrox makes third party lenses for the Z mount if you count them.
I don’t
@@froknowsphoto Just shows your bias against Nikon.
One year ago I had to decide between the Z6 II or the R6. I chose the R6 and have been shooting with the RF 15-35 f/2.8, RF 100-500mm f4.5-7.1 and RF100 macro 2.8. I sometimes wonder if maybe the grass was greener with Sony. However, I'm loving the R6 and with the glass I've purchased so far I imagine a better body will replace in a few years time. I love the R6 #igotthisfar
Any updates?
How’s your back? The Canon lenses are like strapping a keg to your camera, and they cost as much as a decent used car.
The Sony A7IV will be a great upgrade to my a6400. Can't wait. #igotthisfar
COOL! i love to watch jared reviews,. very reliable,. unlike tony always reviewing the camera that he doest even touched personally,.
I got this far. Sony for me as I am already a Sony shooter. Good show Jared!
Lens Rentals conclusion after Nikon Z 7 teardown: "I’ll leave you with one last shot of the sensor / IBIS / frame assembly. Not a lot of air in this one, but a lot of really strong looking supports and connections. I’m impressed by the very solid construction of the chassis and IBIS unit. I’m impressed with the neat, modern engineering of the electrical connections." Sony was weak with IBIS mechanism. Is this still the case?
Its the R6 for me.
Ecosystem, EF Lenses, Ibis(also for video and old lenses) is phantastic.
Also the Menue is better than sonys :P For Starters haha
I got this far! I'm currently slinging dual R6's and am deeply emursed (and getting deepter) in RF glass. So far so good.
I personally love my R6 and think that the entry-level glass for RF is really slept on. There's no other system that has so many cheap first-party lenses that perform well in photo as well as video, and though I have some L glass, too, I think that the RF 35mm f/1.8 IS Macro is the most useful lens that I have ever owned.
I tried the R6 and loved it but the resolution and video of the r5 made it worth it to get the r5. In any case whatever camera gets you excited to go out and shoot, that camera is the best. I seriously take my r5 everywhere. It sits by me when I'm driving. I take it into restaurants. When I'm sitting with friends and the waiter comes by, I give him the camera. He looks confused and I say just tap the screen like a smartphone and he's in shock how nice the picture looks. When a camera makes you that excited to shoot everywhere you know it's a keeper
Yeah, the r6 is great, and recently I have purchased the 35mm 1.8 as well with a big discount (super worth it). Now that lens is glued to the camera, which I use daily for zoom meetings and I take it with me everywhere. I will wait to see if I have to sell a kidney to get the 50 mm 1.2 as the only prime I’ll ever need at 1.2, and a telephoto like 100-500. ATM both cost to damn much, but they seem to be worth the dough.
@@andreimicle highly recommend the RF 50mm 1.2. Got it 3 weeks ago. Loving it so far.
@@andreimicle 50mm f/1.2 is the only super premium RF glass I have, and it's amazing. That said, I still use 35mm f/1.8 way more because it's just way more versatile and portable, but when I take the 50mm f/1.2 to shoot, it's usually the only lens I end up using. It's almost confusing how good it is that anything can be such a perfect combination of sharp, detailed, smooth, and dreamy.
Thanks for the review. I think this will help many people. There is no perfect camera, but this def helps make a few decisions
Awesome review. I am still a Nikon faithful with the z7ii. Sony and Canon do have some great offerings but I'm invested in F-mount glass so I have the F2Z adapter. Also, I like the feel of the Nikon which I think they did a good job of maintaining even going from DSLR to mirrorless. I was able to get a new z7ii and feel comfortable enough to go shot a wedding right away. If you've ever done weddings then you know that knowing your way around your gear is a big deal. Don't think you can go wrong with any of the cameras you reviewed but of course I am primarily a shooter of stills and not so concerned about the superior video capabilities of Sony and Canon. Thanks and peace and prosperity to you Fro bro. #igotthisfar
In this video: Me looking at cameras I can't afford
#igotthisfar I currently have a zZ6ii and a few others from Nikon. I really don’t have any complaints about anything that I shoot. If I do shoot any fast moving subjects, I’ll have to upgrade it looks like. But in the meantime the Z6ii is working just fine for my liking. Looking forward to seeing what Nikon has in store in the next couple years.
I’m currently using the original Z6 (since they came out) and hating it. I was going to leave Nikon but the Z9 has everything I want in a camera so now I’m saving for a Z9.
I'm just going to repeat what I already mentioned it in some of my previous replies to comments above: "Nikon have recently confirmed after their Z9 launch that features & enhancements to their current lineup will continue via firmware, which includes cameras like the Z5, Z 6II and Z 7II ... so you might not have to wait for he next generation at all, just saying :)"
#igotthisfar
Going with the Sony A7 IV, thanks!
There's only a couple so far, but worth noting that Viltrox are making AF lenses for Z mount bodies
"a bajillion dots"
Great video as usual!
Regarding prize: it could be interesting what the prize for a complete setup will be including 2-3 lenses, vertical grip etc. That could be an eye opener because only looking at the price of the camera could be misleading.
Aye, this. It seems Sony is being less aggressive on the body price now that they are the number 1 mirrorless brand while Nikon is getting very aggressive pricewise on the body.
love RF glass, but good god those prices give me pain
I'm currently switchimg from nikon to sony, I pre-ordered an a7iv and the sigma 24-70, and the sigma 85 1.4. Those are 2 great lens for the price of about one good RF glass. That's a lot more pictures I can take and a lot more options to actually get out there and start shooting.
The Nikon can record ProRes RAW or Blackmagic RAW video with a $200 Upgrade.
Send me the Nikon z6 please lol 🙏🏾
I watched the whole thing, one thing I think you should’ve mentioned is the naked feel of the camera body. The canon mirrorless body just feels so good compared to the Sony. I haven’t held a Z6 so I can’t give my opinion on that. The Sony A74 is a beast of a camera and if it had the feel of a canon, I would go with that (if I were to revamp my entire system). Great video!
This is a great breakdown of all three camera bodies. I started out with a very cheap Dslr from canon and already have a couple EF lenses. Might stick with them when I upgrade thanks to their EF adapter for the RF body.
nikon LED light box is back in background after a while
I shoot with the Z6ii!! And I love it!(Z glass is top tier!!!) Canon is a close second! Sony does have the best lens selection though!!!
Sony doesn't have the best lens selection, even Fro hinted that some of their lenses are pants ... the only thing they did was to open their mount up to 3rd party lens manufacturers knowing full well that they couldn't compete with the big boys otherwise.
@@vickosis That's what I mean. Sigma and Tamron work well with Sony. Better than some of the native glass.
@@deontecary432 which kinda tells you a lot about the overall native lineup of Sony lenses, no?
The likes of Tamron, Sigma etc will eventually be granted permission to produce lenses for the big boys, it's just at the moment Canon and Nikon don't need to do this and are more interested in selling us their own brand lenses.
Unfortunately if Sony tried to do this, they wouldn't have anywhere near as many customers LOL
New firmware update for Z6 makes it better regarding focus. Soon update for Z6II and Z7II - I'm guessing they'll be better on focus than 7A4 and R6 and $500 cheaper.
There are some Viltrox lenses for Nikon Z Systems ( Full frame and also Aps-C), you should give it a try and make a video about it!
What u mean no 3rd party support on the z? I use tamron 24-70 g2 w the z6 ii and I haven’t even updated any firmware for the camera or lens- works fine for now
Nikon shooters don't come here you will be devastated 😂😂🥲
I see why hahaha
lol meh. Jared did say they were all good. It really falls on the photographer to create the image since the camera can't take pics by itself......yet! lolol
Figured that, before even watching it.
Came here for the comments, already know where he stands. 😂😂😂
Made it all the way, I’ve been waiting to upgrade from the A7iii. I’m picking the A74, is the best hybrid option plus lenses are more affordable and videos are great on Sony cameras
All that I see and hear - Autofocus/Autofocus/Autofocus. Sony and Canon are 500$ more expensive (so I do not know if the comparison is fair). If you are not shooting fast action sport you do not need the Sony and Canon. So if you are a Landscape/Arcithecture/Interior design photographer, the much better image files from Nikon are for you. I have a friend that switched from Sony to Canon r6 because of the quality of the files. If you sports photographer so neither is for you, for that you have to consider Z9, R3, A1 - of course, they are much more expensive.
I have Z6II and I am happy with it. From time to time there is difficulty with autofocus during fast action shooting, but about 80-90% are sharp - so it is enough for me.
Exactly on point. Jared is too biased with Autofocus and Sony. Actually the Sony is too expensive for what it offers. Only 6 FPS, low resolution back display, mediocre IBIS performance with video on this tiny mount, lenses with heavy focus breathing, messy menu system, not the best image quality compared to Nikon, ...