I've listened to hours of Marshall talking about art but have never seen is work, now I know why he values perspective so much, his objects are so precise!
This man is a legend. It made me tear up a bit the way he described his stress and anxiety over all of these amazing works and see the industry develop at the same time but also envy, man... I wish I had the clients he used to have. And he hated the airbrush too, I fracking hated the airbrush as well is a nightmare to get it right!
The photoshop story is so painfully real, it's the airbrush equivalent of the time I found out other people were rendering furniture and architecture in Sketchup instead of drawing it all by hand like I did
Marshall, if I had the money I would hire you in a heartbeat to tell me your grandpa stories. Although I would probably buy the perspective course first. I watched the demo, it's amazing how great, high quality and at the same time entertaining you brought it across. Personally, I would say you should do more in this direction, it would enrich the market extremely.
Thanks, Marshall, for sharing your portfolio. As always it is great to listen to your advice. I worked in the marketing branch before digitalization - so many things you showed, made me smile and I remembered this time... illustration, photography, design... everything started with just a paper and a pen.
I like this bit of history, it’s easy to overlook the old art of advertisements, instructions, etc. it’s a lost art as most companies go for either stock photos or bland gloopy generic corpo art style.
Marshall's work is incredible!! I feel incredibly humbled and also like I need to learn from this man. It seems like he's amazing in all of my weak points!
I'm nearing my mid 70's, and this brings back fond memories. In fact, Allergan was one of my clients probably 10 years prior to your illustrations. Airbrush was not one of my better techniques. It was so tedious. I mostly worked in pen and ink, stippling for hours on end. I have the knobby right hand fingers to prove it. I also did thousands of charts and graphs in pen and ink - my bread and butter work. One thing I chuckle at these days is seeing young illustrators complaining that they have to take two or three steps in the software they are using that might take a minute or less of time. They complain that it should be so much easier, that they should be able to do it in one step or the software should just know what they want. I find that doing everything in graphic software is so easy compared to the olden days.
The deadlines for art delivery in every age reflect the available technology of the time. What was a weekend deadline in the 80's is now expected to be delivered as half a days work if that and for half the money..if that. But hey, so much fun.
I enjoyed this video. Interesting to see just how much the freelance art game changed and how so much of Marshall's experiences are still relevant for navigating the space today.
The old school illustration techniques are so interesting. Seems like things that take more time and effort have more value in a way. I can SO relate to wanting to avoid family gatherings 😅
You know those paychecks really hit when Marshall laughs about it decades later as if he had just deposited them in the bank. 😂 Amazed that somebody could be THAT precise with airbrush work. Those illustrations are so clean.
Grandpa, tell me 'bout the good old days. Sometimes it feels like this world's gone crazy. Grandpa, take me back to yesterday. When the line between right and wrong didn't seem so hazy.
Wow. I went to college in 1991 and couldnt figure out why computer graphics was only an elective in 4th year! I was outraged. Haha. All my school assignments were hand drawn and photo copied and pasted o to boards. Then we went to the local copy center downtown to have a final color photo copy made. Lmao. NOW i know why i still have my portfolio! I was also in a position of being ahead of the curve and never understood that until now. Unfortunately, I had a really stressful job (aka working desktop for an offset printer) and left the industry for 20 years. Just picked up my first ipad and starting over. 🎉
Out of curiosity, I wonder if you recognize some names like Bill Andrews, Steve Harrison, Bill Westwood… they probably would have been working in medical advertising around the same time period. They were my professors and guest teachers during my grad school training as a medical illustrator. I likewise found their insights and stories from the pre-photoshop airbrush days really fascinating with a lot to learn from.
The first thing I learned in Art School was to resize using the grid 😅 In all the school there was only one computer and it was for the secretary. We manipulated the images with a printer that worked with coins, and we didn't always have them. Kids today don't know how lucky they are 😅😅😅
I ser your point,, but ts not lucky if there are no markets for your work and you're competing with everyone of every age around the world for the scraps.
@gravesbruce you know the people of my age are in that market too? We have the same competition and we started in a position of disavantage. I had to learn how to use a computer at 25, with the Internet the market changed. We passed from competing in a local league to run for the Olympics. I had to teach myself a different language from 0. You really should appreciate what you have.
@@SerenaMarenco I understand. Thing about it, I started my professional career as an art director and illustrator in 1982 and they had just invented markers. I have been through all the ups and downs and learning curves. I try to maintain gratitude, but as the work gets easier the market gets smaller. Frustrating.
We disagree. Often, artists find their voice or what they add to the world of art while they're doing something entirely different. Make things and do that search as you go. You're unique and should share yourself with the world if you enjoy making art.
@@gravesbruce Yep, for young people there is little incentive to learn anatomy, perspective, ect. For career artists mapping out a future is increasingly difficult. A few visual artists I know have trnsitioned into physical products, such as funiture design and construction; which has it's own problems
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Marshall is a national treasure
Of humanity actually
the granpa everyone wishes they had
global treasure! :D
🥂
YOU SAID IT BROTHER🙏🙌
I need at least 12 more hours of Marshall telling this stories
Loving these war stories from the analog days!
Man, I miss the Draftsman Podcast. I could listen to him all day long
@@DeviN99de The podcast is still going! And we're even doing two more episodes soon :D
@@ProkoTV I'm happy to hear that
I am genuinely sad this video had to end 😭! Please more of these types of videos with marshal! PLEASE
I admire Marshall greatly, ever since his perspective videos, one of the best teachers that ever was
Ah yes Marshall the GOAT
All the Money disappared, but the injuries remains. Thanks Marshal for a wise statement.
Long Live Marshal Vandruff!
@@zedharith6695 Hear hear! 💪 We're recording a couple new episodes of Draftsmen soon so he'll be sharing even more stories lol
@@ProkoTV It's a Christmas miracle
@@ProkoTV As an avid listener, can't wait for that! Got my tea and biscuits ready. Just post it and I'll make time. XD
Cheers guys and take care.
I've listened to hours of Marshall talking about art but have never seen is work, now I know why he values perspective so much, his objects are so precise!
Marshall is a legend. I love the illustrations.
The whole ordeal back then seems so stressful, but the results are so good!!
This man is a legend. It made me tear up a bit the way he described his stress and anxiety over all of these amazing works and see the industry develop at the same time but also envy, man... I wish I had the clients he used to have. And he hated the airbrush too, I fracking hated the airbrush as well is a nightmare to get it right!
As someone who saw many of these old illustrations in medical books, i was always wondering who did that?
And now i know that.
Thanks marshal
The photoshop story is so painfully real, it's the airbrush equivalent of the time I found out other people were rendering furniture and architecture in Sketchup instead of drawing it all by hand like I did
What a man. I could listen to him all night.
Marshall, if I had the money I would hire you in a heartbeat to tell me your grandpa stories. Although I would probably buy the perspective course first. I watched the demo, it's amazing how great, high quality and at the same time entertaining you brought it across. Personally, I would say you should do more in this direction, it would enrich the market extremely.
Thanks, Marshall, for sharing your portfolio. As always it is great to listen to your advice. I worked in the marketing branch before digitalization - so many things you showed, made me smile and I remembered this time... illustration, photography, design... everything started with just a paper and a pen.
I could listen to him all day
I like this bit of history, it’s easy to overlook the old art of advertisements, instructions, etc. it’s a lost art as most companies go for either stock photos or bland gloopy generic corpo art style.
So nice to finally see Marshall’s works in full!
absolutely incredible work - a legacy to be proud of!!!
I love this guy.
Happy Holidays Marshal, Proko, and team!!!! I love the dynamic duo back together again!!!! Cheers, I love you guys!!! ❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊😊
We need a new podcast simply called "Marshall Talks". This was so good!
My high school art teacher introduced me to Mr. Marshal in 2007 (drawing animals), and since then I've loved his stuff.
I remember that golf ad. Nice to see the face to it! Thanks for sharing.
Marshall's work is incredible!! I feel incredibly humbled and also like I need to learn from this man. It seems like he's amazing in all of my weak points!
Thanks for the mention. Loved all the stories!
We're looking forward to your sketchbook tour video coming out soon!
Rip James Gurney 😢😭
I'm nearing my mid 70's, and this brings back fond memories. In fact, Allergan was one of my clients probably 10 years prior to your illustrations. Airbrush was not one of my better techniques. It was so tedious. I mostly worked in pen and ink, stippling for hours on end. I have the knobby right hand fingers to prove it. I also did thousands of charts and graphs in pen and ink - my bread and butter work.
One thing I chuckle at these days is seeing young illustrators complaining that they have to take two or three steps in the software they are using that might take a minute or less of time. They complain that it should be so much easier, that they should be able to do it in one step or the software should just know what they want. I find that doing everything in graphic software is so easy compared to the olden days.
The deadlines for art delivery in every age reflect the available technology of the time. What was a weekend deadline in the 80's is now expected to be delivered as half a days work if that and for half the money..if that. But hey, so much fun.
Thank you for this. I'm 24 years in illustration. I've always wanted to do more medical illustrations
We all Stan, Marshall
I see what you did there 😎
The real GOAT
I enjoyed this video. Interesting to see just how much the freelance art game changed and how so much of Marshall's experiences are still relevant for navigating the space today.
The old school illustration techniques are so interesting. Seems like things that take more time and effort have more value in a way. I can SO relate to wanting to avoid family gatherings 😅
This was a very inspirational story. Wish i heard this in my younger days though
You know those paychecks really hit when Marshall laughs about it decades later as if he had just deposited them in the bank. 😂 Amazed that somebody could be THAT precise with airbrush work. Those illustrations are so clean.
This was fascinating!. Very fun to hear those old stories! I had to stop what I was doing!
I love it that they used my question as an add spot. Great day for me. 😂🎉
Honestly this is the exact video I needed in my life LOL
honestly the HAND DRAWN stuff looks way better than all the digital, one from the heart and other from the fingers
Snatched up the Perspective course! :)
Glad you got it! You'll love it.
Great Thanks
Very cool Marshall, keep sharing these stories, they are very inspiring.
Thank u 4 sharing this with your fans ❤
yes!!!! love seeing new Marshall videos!
Daamn Marshall Showing OFF Today!!!🤣🤣🤣
The legend himself
Grandpa, tell me 'bout the good old days.
Sometimes it feels like this world's gone crazy.
Grandpa, take me back to yesterday.
When the line between right and wrong didn't seem so hazy.
Wow. I went to college in 1991 and couldnt figure out why computer graphics was only an elective in 4th year! I was outraged. Haha. All my school assignments were hand drawn and photo copied and pasted o to boards. Then we went to the local copy center downtown to have a final color photo copy made. Lmao. NOW i know why i still have my portfolio! I was also in a position of being ahead of the curve and never understood that until now. Unfortunately, I had a really stressful job (aka working desktop for an offset printer) and left the industry for 20 years. Just picked up my first ipad and starting over. 🎉
I've been researching this for 7 days now. I'm sure now that artists think alike.
we love Marshall
Ohhh!! ❤ 30m just passed by.
Old masters are the GOAT.
Go Go Marshall ❤❤❤
Marshall's a genius.
I loved this.. 3 hours please the full thing.
@@BoyceBailey This was never three hours lol
There was very little editing on this. Marshall's stories all made it in.
this is gold!
This is such a treat! Can we have more please?
Marshall 🎅🏼
$2,300 in 1987 adjusted for inflations is equivalent to $879,400 today.
What a life
You’re amazing
Una absoluta maravilla👌
Great video! Thank you!!!
16:27 green?? I see blue.
That was great
Out of curiosity, I wonder if you recognize some names like Bill Andrews, Steve Harrison, Bill Westwood… they probably would have been working in medical advertising around the same time period. They were my professors and guest teachers during my grad school training as a medical illustrator. I likewise found their insights and stories from the pre-photoshop airbrush days really fascinating with a lot to learn from.
you should change the title to make sure people interested in old analog stories know its their thing!
hope marshall drop airbrush class
Sir Marshall 😮
The first thing I learned in Art School was to resize using the grid 😅
In all the school there was only one computer and it was for the secretary.
We manipulated the images with a printer that worked with coins, and we didn't always have them.
Kids today don't know how lucky they are 😅😅😅
I ser your point,, but ts not lucky if there are no markets for your work and you're competing with everyone of every age around the world for the scraps.
Yea thats the thing now the competition is THICK@gravesbruce
@gravesbruce you know the people of my age are in that market too? We have the same competition and we started in a position of disavantage. I had to learn how to use a computer at 25, with the Internet the market changed. We passed from competing in a local league to run for the Olympics. I had to teach myself a different language from 0. You really should appreciate what you have.
@@SerenaMarenco I understand. Thing about it, I started my professional career as an art director and illustrator in 1982 and they had just invented markers. I have been through all the ups and downs and learning curves. I try to maintain gratitude, but as the work gets easier the market gets smaller. Frustrating.
This would have been helpful when I started out in 2022 Marshall, but better late than never (just like the perspective course)
"How to Survive as a Freelance Illustrator" - was not answered a single time in this video.
This video has made me realize i have nothing to offer as an artist
We disagree. Often, artists find their voice or what they add to the world of art while they're doing something entirely different.
Make things and do that search as you go. You're unique and should share yourself with the world if you enjoy making art.
omg more Draftsmen whennnnnn
💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛
aha.. so How to Survive as a Freelance Illustrator?
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
More “grandpa” videos and stories please
Why change the thumbnail
The good old days when art was made by people and people on computers. Now it's just made by the computer.
Me writing down the fax numbers and sending them my portfolio
so if i have networks and friends who are interested in my art or my skills i can make it out alive
A good yarn, however commercial illustraion is doomed due to AI devaluing skills
So sad and so true, but the decline didn't start with A.I. Digital photography and stock agencies were the first market vampires.
@@gravesbruce Yep, for young people there is little incentive to learn anatomy, perspective, ect. For career artists mapping out a future is increasingly difficult. A few visual artists I know have trnsitioned into physical products, such as funiture design and construction; which has it's own problems
In my 60's also. Is it too late to be come a traditional illustrator ? Please tell me not to try !
Am i the only one who thinks he sounds different?
This was recorded in a noisy environment, so unfortunately heavy background sound removal has an effect on vocal quality
@@charnich makes sense now.
Who is that 😭
He doesn't sound like Marshall
I was moved 🥲
The best video ever 🫶🏼