If that’s the evo it does not weigh 12kgs as I have the creo sl expert and that weighs 12.7 I think the eco is 13.5kg. Still much lighter than a mountain bike though!
I live we’re it’s almost 50% dirt roads and mountain climbs. I love the idea of the freedom to ride anywhere I want with the climbing assist. My 110lbs tire pressure on my road bike is flat out dangerous on dirt roads.
I'd get the Creo SL but as a road bike - great for that. A Gravel bike makes sense on those long epic road rides that involve fire roads. But it is just that, a road bike that can handle gravel. I'd never buy it with the intent of riding single track - have an MTB for that. That being said I am contemplating getting the Creo SL to replace my dusty road bike sitting in the shed. You should do a clip/video on how great this thing is on the road: takes the hassle out of climbing and still bombs like a race/endurance bike. Finally wear whatever makes you comfortable - on the road that's lycra for me.
I’d like to try an e-gravel bike but I don’t want a derailleur, so I’ll have to wait a bit longer. As far as what to wear, I think anything works for gravel.
I've been riding my drop bar eBikes for the last 3 years on any single track that presents itself during a ride. I started out in 1980 on a rigid mtb and it makes me laugh every time. Difference is I like a 40-45c and I use a 1000w peak DD front hub motor. Riding rigid is a skill and in fact my mid drive eMTB is a hardtail mullet with a 80mm travel fork as well as I just built up a full rigid MD 29"er, both steel framed. Yup, I'm that out of touch with modern tech.
In the US these creos are road bike replacements. Bail out people of different skills or fitness levels to ride together, And they allow for a longer rides. If I was in Europe and had one with a 15 mph limit I'd have to hack it so it could go 28. I get the need to limit e-bike speeds, but it seems really dumb to limit e-bike assistance to speeds well BELOW the top speed you can ride a regular bike.
Then i talk to my local dealers in my hometown, they all say the say the sell much more hardtails than full suspencian!, so why are 99% of all reviews on emtbs online about full suspencian?
its cheaper and more than suitable for forest paths. But of course you show the maximum useability with a full suspension bike as these guys make use of them.
Specialized E-Gravel Bikes looks great but they do not have only one model with SRAM-Groupset... :-( therfore out of discussion for me. There are any from other companies?
Why would anyone ride a mtb track with a roadbike? Handlebars, seatingpostion and no suspension in the front are 3 reasons against it. I'll stick to my focus raven, it only weights about 16kg anyway but it's a proper hardtail mtb^^
@askembn .... Right boys we know we're all struggling just now but ffs ... can you ride a gravel bike on an MTB trail? 😂😂😂😂 This is the equivalent of writing your punishment exercise in massive letters. 😂😂😂
Bikes are like a bit like music, there are quite a few genres and sub-genres and you as an individual obviously find out and choose what you like and don't like. We just wanted to show people what gravel bikes are about from an off-road perspective. These bikes are really practical for a range of uses! Adventures, commuting, great for bumpy roads, great at bringing the road and MTB community together. Great at showing road riders that off-road riding is more fun.. 😉
@@embn Yip ... I get it. I was just being facetious and started on the gin too early. 😔 I blame the cabin fever. I will go away and have a good long hard think about myself and I'll contribute positively. Love you all. 🏴❤️🏴
@@Daffy0208 Haha, all good DD, maybe switch things up on the booze front? Try a beer or a red wine instead of the Gin? I'll tell you something riding e gravel down a dh track is quite a thing haha!!
Why buy a bike only hopes to achieve more than it is when, if you have a fully sprung trail monster that only has to DROP in class to the tarmac??? Word of the day: Rockshox ZEB... Yikes!
Most road/gravel bikes have short droppers on them. Nothing stopping the rider from swapping it out to something with a little more travel. We have also seen people whip out the ratchet on drop levers to act as a dropper lever. It's cool to see roadies being introduced to them though! Starting to see them on more and more gravel bikes 😎
The Trust fork was 1.9 bags. That's the top end ZEB option but they have a range of models available and also selling damper upgrade kits and air spring kits should you wish to upgrade to top-tier internals or change travel.
Bikes are like a bit like music, there are quite a few genres and sub-genres and you as an individual obviously find out and choose what you like and don't like. Yes, "gravel" is on-trend at the moment, but we think that it's a great thing as these bikes are really practical for a range of uses! Adventures, commuting, great for bumpy roads, great at bringing the road and MTB community together. Great at showing road riders that off-road riding is more fun 😉
@@embn you are right, bikes are like music and gravel bikes are the pop songs that stick in your mind! So, lets dance some gravel! 😁
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I don't like this idea of gravel bikes. I have a proper old fashioned road bike, the design fits perfectly for the paved road and blasting even w/o el. support. I like much better a good old traditional trekking bike with wider tires and el. support, wide handlebars, proper front suspension. Much better bikes for all what el. gravel bikes are supposed to do.
We think it's still important to keep an open mind and try out different bikes if you get the chance. Different genres of bike provide different experience, and people get different enjoyment from different bikes for different reasons. We think it's cool there are so many options these days! You may like it, you may not 🤷♂️
Not really. You tend to ride a road bike with the seat a little higher (to maximise your pedaling) than you would on a MTB. I bet that 50mm makes a huge amount of difference when you leave the tarmac.
No, we don't really have an upload limit. We have let shows run as long as 45 minutes in the past (but this is pretty long and anything over half an hour can be quite intimidating to a new-viewer.) We think around 20/25 minutes is a good amount of time, and still long enough to have some substance. What you think?
What do you think about E-Gravel Bikes and what you think you should wear when riding one❓💭👇
Had no idea there was such a classification.
You should wear the best camouflage money can buy.
I think they are perfect for roads and cycle tracks and for wearing full skin tight aluminous body suites
Bubble wrap
Balaclava helmet and a Speedo
12 kilos! That's the future for EMTBs, I reckon. Get it as light as a regular MTB, but with power options. I can't wait.
If that’s the evo it does not weigh 12kgs as I have the creo sl expert and that weighs 12.7 I think the eco is 13.5kg. Still much lighter than a mountain bike though!
Lol I forgot the EU has a 25kmh (15mph) limit on the Creo, the US version has a 28mph limit
I live we’re it’s almost 50% dirt roads and mountain climbs. I love the idea of the freedom to ride anywhere I want with the climbing assist. My 110lbs tire pressure on my road bike is flat out dangerous on dirt roads.
I’m in love with my Specialized Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon...😍
I’m an MTB guy...but this bike is just amazing
I loved my gravel bike, but it just got me in to MTB 😂
Rad! 🤘
I'd get the Creo SL but as a road bike - great for that. A Gravel bike makes sense on those long epic road rides that involve fire roads. But it is just that, a road bike that can handle gravel. I'd never buy it with the intent of riding single track - have an MTB for that. That being said I am contemplating getting the Creo SL to replace my dusty road bike sitting in the shed. You should do a clip/video on how great this thing is on the road: takes the hassle out of climbing and still bombs like a race/endurance bike. Finally wear whatever makes you comfortable - on the road that's lycra for me.
If I had money I'd buy that thing for the road rides and road rides which combine with gravel roads
i was more a bmx fan when it cam to dirt jumps and we all had GTs such as the DINO, Powerlight, Performer and the verigo
I’d like to try an e-gravel bike but I don’t want a derailleur, so I’ll have to wait a bit longer. As far as what to wear, I think anything works for gravel.
Woo-hoo! I made it into the bike vault!
I've been riding my drop bar eBikes for the last 3 years on any single track that presents itself during a ride. I started out in 1980 on a rigid mtb and it makes me laugh every time. Difference is I like a 40-45c and I use a 1000w peak DD front hub motor. Riding rigid is a skill and in fact my mid drive eMTB is a hardtail mullet with a 80mm travel fork as well as I just built up a full rigid MD 29"er, both steel framed. Yup, I'm that out of touch with modern tech.
Sounds like you would love a 150mm trail ebike then :)
In the US these creos are road bike replacements.
Bail out people of different skills or fitness levels to ride together, And they allow for a longer rides.
If I was in Europe and had one with a 15 mph limit I'd have to hack it so it could go 28.
I get the need to limit e-bike speeds, but it seems really dumb to limit e-bike assistance to speeds well BELOW the top speed you can ride a regular bike.
Then i talk to my local dealers in my hometown, they all say the say the sell much more hardtails than full suspencian!, so why are 99% of all reviews on emtbs online about full suspencian?
suspension*
its cheaper and more than suitable for forest paths. But of course you show the maximum useability with a full suspension bike as these guys make use of them.
Great show Gents. 🤜
Glad you enjoyed it!
All I need is A Gravel Bike With Front Suspension or Is That Head set shock Enough to keep away the wrist chatter?
Is that the 2021 Specialized Levo hanging up on the wall of your shed there Chris?
I think it’s a turbo levo comp
Specialized E-Gravel Bikes looks great but they do not have only one model with SRAM-Groupset... :-( therfore out of discussion for me. There are any from other companies?
Canyon grail:on
15:57 not heard of Yorkshire pudding? Where you been living 😂
Must have been a glitch in the matrix... EVERYONE in the UK knows what a Yorkshire pudding is?!
The easiest way for Blake to get the number of riders on the post lockdown ride. I to count the wheels and divide by 2.
that's maths and more counting though? 😂
Who's the model in 7:32?
He looks really familiar
Blake seemed like a hostage in EMBN land.
Why would anyone ride a mtb track with a roadbike? Handlebars, seatingpostion and no suspension in the front are 3 reasons against it. I'll stick to my focus raven, it only weights about 16kg anyway but it's a proper hardtail mtb^^
@askembn .... Right boys we know we're all struggling just now but ffs ... can you ride a gravel bike on an MTB trail? 😂😂😂😂
This is the equivalent of writing your punishment exercise in massive letters. 😂😂😂
Bikes are like a bit like music, there are quite a few genres and sub-genres and you as an individual obviously find out and choose what you like and don't like. We just wanted to show people what gravel bikes are about from an off-road perspective. These bikes are really practical for a range of uses! Adventures, commuting, great for bumpy roads, great at bringing the road and MTB community together. Great at showing road riders that off-road riding is more fun.. 😉
@@embn Yip ... I get it. I was just being facetious and started on the gin too early. 😔
I blame the cabin fever. I will go away and have a good long hard think about myself and I'll contribute positively. Love you all. 🏴❤️🏴
@@Daffy0208 Haha, all good DD, maybe switch things up on the booze front? Try a beer or a red wine instead of the Gin? I'll tell you something riding e gravel down a dh track is quite a thing haha!!
@@stevejones7956 I'll take your word for it ... I find it hard enough on a full suspension. 😂
Gravel bikes... Naaa.. wrong tool for the job..
Keep those wierd bars on the tarmac 😉
🤭 Worth having a spin on one though if you get the chance.
Why buy a bike only hopes to achieve more than it is when, if you have a fully sprung trail monster that only has to DROP in class to the tarmac???
Word of the day: Rockshox ZEB... Yikes!
That dropper is comically short
Most road/gravel bikes have short droppers on them. Nothing stopping the rider from swapping it out to something with a little more travel. We have also seen people whip out the ratchet on drop levers to act as a dropper lever. It's cool to see roadies being introduced to them though! Starting to see them on more and more gravel bikes 😎
nice to not have to pay for those bikes 11g for a creo sl
Bag of sand for a fork 😧
The Trust fork was 1.9 bags. That's the top end ZEB option but they have a range of models available and also selling damper upgrade kits and air spring kits should you wish to upgrade to top-tier internals or change travel.
Hit me up if you want a ride around the peaks 👌
It Don’t work with this Blake guy.
Blake is a top lad what do you mean
He's normally over on GMBN but was just helping out on this week's show.
Man, everything has to be gravel these days? Lol
Bikes are like a bit like music, there are quite a few genres and sub-genres and you as an individual obviously find out and choose what you like and don't like. Yes, "gravel" is on-trend at the moment, but we think that it's a great thing as these bikes are really practical for a range of uses! Adventures, commuting, great for bumpy roads, great at bringing the road and MTB community together. Great at showing road riders that off-road riding is more fun 😉
@@embn you are right, bikes are like music and gravel bikes are the pop songs that stick in your mind! So, lets dance some gravel! 😁
I don't like this idea of gravel bikes. I have a proper old fashioned road bike, the design fits perfectly for the paved road and blasting even w/o el. support. I like much better a good old traditional trekking bike with wider tires and el. support, wide handlebars, proper front suspension. Much better bikes for all what el. gravel bikes are supposed to do.
We think it's still important to keep an open mind and try out different bikes if you get the chance. Different genres of bike provide different experience, and people get different enjoyment from different bikes for different reasons. We think it's cool there are so many options these days! You may like it, you may not 🤷♂️
Sorry gravel bikes, why. Why not just get a hardtail and ride more of everything.
That creos dropper is the most useless dropper I have ever seen
Not really. You tend to ride a road bike with the seat a little higher (to maximise your pedaling) than you would on a MTB. I bet that 50mm makes a huge amount of difference when you leave the tarmac.
@@TheAquanomad I still would be terrified to ride jumps on it though.
Fun Show guys, seemed a little rushed... is there a time limit for your uploads?
No, we don't really have an upload limit. We have let shows run as long as 45 minutes in the past (but this is pretty long and anything over half an hour can be quite intimidating to a new-viewer.) We think around 20/25 minutes is a good amount of time, and still long enough to have some substance. What you think?