Why I'm Radically Against Tipping Now | Asmongold Reacts
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argument: "if you can't afford to tip, don't eat out"
counter-argument: "if you can't afford to pay your workers, don't set up a business"
don’t be surprised when your food gets thrown at your porch
Would be a much more accurate question if you were answering to the workers, not the owners.
Not tipping doesn’t effect the owners income, it only punishes the servers that are reliant on tips to pay their bills.
@@ChrisCloudz dont be suprised when you get fired and I get free credit lol. go back to school.
@@kazeykb5047 get a better job
Required tips aren't tips, they are fees. If it's a fee, put it in the damn bill.
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Fees get taxes, tips don't ;)
@@gazvlogs7459Tips are still taxed. Now if you get cash and don't put it in your end of the year ez that's in you but tips are absolutely taxed
@@gazvlogs7459 Tips are supposed to be taxed too, while of course we know that often doesen't happen in reality, but that is on paper the case.
@@TheArrowedKnee No one was enforcing it under the biden regime decided to stick its nose into cash deposits of $600 or more for the purpose of taxing them, which is easily a weeks worth of tips. Meanwhile biden and his donor buddies pay nothing in income taxes but the rest of us get the IRS up our ass if we get combined birthday gifts of $600 in cash.
Japanese here, tipping is a scam and if you tip here in Japan you’re disrespectful.
do your minimum wage laws not apply for restaurant workers?
Calling them peasants essentially?
There is nothing wrong with wanting to tip, the issue is mandatory tipping and tipping culture in general. And yeah, Japan is different in many aspects, and any foreigner visiting should respect how you guys operate there.
if you want to tip, you have to do it as a form of gift but _not tipping_
We know
Crazy how an act of kindness turns into an expectation
*exploitation
I work at a restraunt here in PA. The servers get paid 1.80$ hourly they rely on tips. You make there wage it sucks but greedy corps don't pay there employees.
You mean like how you expect someone to wait on you and fill your drinks and bring you all of your shit like condiments or refills you don’t get charged for and only have to pay for the food? Yea ok
@@thomb6829dude, work on something else LOL
It's actually normal... they get used to it... then they expect it... then they get upset when they don't get it.
"When you've had preferential treatment for so long, equal treatment can feel like discrimination."
-Thomas Sowell
literally why all the alphabet people lose their minds when getting equal treatment
@@bezoznaught5261 all the white dudes who grew up not knowing any better*
@@cosseybombLmao, get ratiod entitled first world ingorant "discirminatee" 🤣
@@cosseybomb you a weirdo
@@bezoznaught5261We're still fighting for the right to exist?
I saw it summed up well like this:
Tipping is a business’s way of paying their employees stupid low, and then shifting the blame to the customer so the employee gets mad at the customer for not tipping instead of being mad at the company for not paying them well in the first place
Most of those employees dont want to be paid a decent wage since they can make 5 times or more money from tips and dont have pay taxes for them either.
@@Torguemada What do you mean they don't have to pay taxes? How old are you? What year do you think this is?
Everyone pays by card. All credit card tips are tracked and taxed because they're paid through the POS system. The only tips that might not be taxed are cash tips and almost no one pays with cash.
Yeah except restaurants that don't have tipping have a hard time having servers stay. Because they prefer getting cash they don't have to report and make way more on fri/Sat.
this and alot of it are bars and had whole in the wall restaurants.
The thing that gets me is the server having to auto tip out the back end on every check assuming they’re getting a tip and docking them money not just taking a percentage for the actual tips they earn. But realistically tip culture is just insane and has been entirely busted for a long time!
Back in 2014 I got pretty bad service from a waitress at a sushi restaurant, and didn't leave a tip. She chased me down and started explaining that in the US you're supposed to leave a tip. I looked her and said, "For good service."
"Yes for servic-"
"No, for good service."
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Also who is the tip for, just the server? What about the cook? Thanks for your service making my yumyums. And on the other side, uber eats and other drivers will ignore a delivery if they aren't getting a good tip upfront. No thanks and the restaurant most likely operates a loss to subsidize the app
You still had them serve you. Tip them poorly for bad service, sure, but no tip at all? You should’ve been made to get the food yourself, if anything.
I walked in and paid $25 for two SUBWAY foot long subs yesterday. Remember when they were $5 each a few years ago? At the card machine it immediately brings up a tip window with varying percentages. I click NO TIP. What the hell are these clowns expecting more money from ME for doing their job? They get paychecks for that. They're not working below minimum wage... far from it thanks to the roughly $15 starting wages nowadays.
Check out tipping is extra shady too. Who knows how much of that even goes to the employee
Not only that but you already had to hold their hand and tell them how to make said sandwich. What a joke.
Tipping at subway? seriously? This has totally gotten out of hand
Tipping at a classy restaurant I understand, I’ve been raised that way ofc leave a $20 for the guy who literally gave you and your fam great service. But at fucking subway??? What the hell dude 😂😂😂 dine in or not they are only making your sandwich that’s literally it and you’re 100% right $25 for two sandwiches!? I only get subway when I’m really hungry and there’s literally nothing nearby, otherwise I’m taking my ass down to Cardenas and buying bollio making a torta at home.
A few years ago? lol maybe back in 2007 they were $5 each.
I remember Adam Carolla had a rant about tipping.
"What if I just opened a mattress store? Then I announce to all my customers "Hey customers, I don't pay my employees well, so I need you to pay them a little extra, because I am announcing that I don't pay my employees well." How long would that mattress store stay open?
thats not even the reality in most states anymore. Why are servers in fucking California still complaining with $18/hour? lmfao. Businesses are LEGALLY required to pay a minimum wage. And up in Canada? Tipping might be the funniest stay-broke system NA has developed.
technically mattress salesman do not get paid well they are usually paid on commission. Which would be like instead of the money for the food going to the restaurant a portion goes to the employee... so a tip built in. I wonder if you could run a restaurant on commission.
@@TheKaranEditionanother braindead comment. They're making $18 sure, but you're assuming they're getting 40 hours. They're getting $18 and their hours are cut WAY back, and they could be sent home at any moment as soon as business dies a little. If you were making $18 an hour, scheduled 36 hours, only getting 23 hours, and rent is $1500 for a shoebox wtf are people supposed to do?
@@unlisted9494 get another or different job?
@@markbrown8097 care to enlighten me as to where all of these supposed jobs are, these millions of jobs hiring people paying $20 an hour and giving you 40 hours a week? Where are they? I'm genuinely asking as someone who has 8 years of retail management experience, who applied for over 100 jobs and got 1 call back. I think you have a VERY skewed idea of the job market.
The jobs you're referring to LITERALLY don't exist, and the ones that do, they aren't hiring hundreds of people. They're hiring 1, maybe 5. How many servers do you think are in your city alone? How many bartenders? How many of them HAVE A DEGREE that nobody will hire them for because every place expects 3-5 years of experience in that field, but nobody can get experience because they don't already have it.
Stop living in fantasy capitalism world and live on planet earth for a moment.
Remember folks tipping ensures companies will never pay their employees a fair wage.
Sort of a catch 22. If you tip, it ensures that the companies continue to not pay their employees a fair wage. If you don't tip, you are ensuring that the employees don't get a fair wage.
On a side note, many employees make much more than a fair wage from tips.
@TyrianHaze and the supposed fair wages that are being passed are causing their food prices to go uup, which makes people walk cause their food usually isn't worth it.
@@TyrianHaze beat me to it lmao, I have some friends that bring in 900 a week with 3 nights of work. Wonder how they feel about tipping 😂
@@TyrianHaze It's not my responsibility to pay their employees, I'm not the employer. The only catch 22 here is that you believe this is a catch 22.
@TyrianHaze
That used to be true but in USA they tax the tips.
I've been a radical anti-tipping ever since they asked for a tip, on a fking self-checkout machine.
@@faisfaizal5194 who is that money even going to? The owner? Gtfo with that on a self checkout. Tipping is way out of hand and the employer should be ashamed of themselves.
@@danielschmaderer pretty sure they go to charities, and it would be illegal to facilitate donation funds.
Though since when have businesses been squeaky clean
only time i will tips is when give me a good service at a sit down restaurant - every other places? hell no.
That is just plain stupid because technically on a self checkout machine, you serve yourself and thus if you give a tip, that money should go to yourself in the form of a discount off of your goods. No one else aside from you should be receiving a tip at a machine where you are doing the work.
Ive been a radical ever since an American berated me for saying mandatory tipping is a scam. How entitled can you be?
What's messed up is how servers are paid less with the expectation that they'll make up the difference through 20% tips. In the old days, tipping was optional and a compliment, but now it's mandatory. I recently had a plumber do about $800 worth of work on a renovation, and when I paid, there was a tip request. I thought, "Dude, this is your business, you charge $70+ per hour, and you want a tip?" I don't think that's professional. It's not like servers who barely make minimum wage without tips.
it's worth pointing out that most restaurants have very slim profit margins and "pay your workers more" is just going to result in your meal being more expensive anyway. as a consumer, I'd rather pay $15 for food and then throw a couple extra bucks directly at my server than pay $20 flat for my food. tips are meant to be an extra reward for good service and that's still how I treat them, a good waitress that serves, say, 100 tables in a shift, with an average tip of $2 per table, she'll pull in an additional $200 per shift in tips, if she works, say, 5 shifts a week that's $1000, which is nothing to shake a stick at. it's also worth noting that, if those tips are largely in cash, she can just stick hat cash straight in her change jar at home and not say shit and those greedy useless goblins at the IRS can eat a bag of dicks. it's not tipping that's the problem it's people's shitty attitudes.
bs i rather pay 20 or whatever instead of 15 and servers get a good salary than mandatory tip 20%@@gmanplaysgames256
My same thoughts on tattoo artists... tip if you want but spending hundreds on something big does not require a tip, it requires you do the math on your business properly.
but I bet you tipped anyways
@@gmanplaysgames256 we have a country literally surrounded by farmland . During The Great Depression we fed all of Europe during WW2
And we're subsidized by government. And we have GMO's and new agricultural science now. People can barely afford food today. It blogges the mind how humanity ever managed to have subsistence farming, the advent of civilization. Superstitious entities really must have been what made the crops grow back then.
The problem is Greedflation capitalism. Capitalists just think one individual can just start their own supply chain for their tiny restaurant to source cheap ingredients.
''We expect you...'' -Imma have to stop you right there.
lmfao on god
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"we expect you to tip 20%" - an owner
"we expect people to get paid at least the minimum wage" - the people
"We get paid at least minimum wage regardless but with tips we make much more, shhh" - The Waiters.
They do get paid minimum wage.
In the US currently, tipped employees are only paid at least $2.13 per hour. The regular minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. These are both federal rates, and there is a definite difference. However more than half the states have either a higher than federal rate, or no difference between the two. There's like 16 states that follow the federal tip rate.
@@ParabolicLabs That is false. Employers are required to make up the difference if the tipped employees made less than $7.25 by federal law. You can check department of labor for that
@@samuelchen454 Nothing I said was false. It's literal facts. What you're talking about is only valid if the tipped employee doesn't make $30 or more in tips each month. Go on, go read it.
Tipping is to show appreciation for extra good service, when it's seen as mandatory it's a tax.
There is no such thing as extra good service, it's literally part of the job to do that anyway.
@@klzeccwozi1290I mean yeah it’s their job but they get paid like 5-7$ an hour if they’re not getting tips which is absurdly low. I agree they should get paid sufficiently by the company but the reality is that they don’t, so I do think if you are completely unwilling to tip you shouldn’t be going to restaurants where servers rely on tips. It’s not their fault, and for anyone who says “just find a different job” a lot of times it’s young people with little work experience or college kids who can’t work full time at a real job.
I don't tip for any service. I'm not here to pay your rent.
We do that in Finland: taxes are included in the price in shops, and tipping is only when service is exceptional. Waiters are paid a living wage.
That's the standard in over 190 countries.
Same in UK
@@tucsonbandit right lol people in the comment section are sad. Everybody should tip well if they can afford it, it makes the world a better place. Asmongold is a millionaire
@@samuellang9761 People should tip if they can afford it AND if they got a good service. Tipping makes the world a worse place if you assure people that no matter how they behave they're still entitled to the bonus that the tip really is.
It's crazy we call it a sales tax when it's the buyer who has to pay it. It should be illegal to list a price that doesn't include the tax.
are you tipping your mailman? a construction worker? no. staff should be paid accordingly by the employer. it is not the responsebility of the customer if the staff can pay their bills.
tipping culture enables misuse of kindness.
the only good deed is an honest deed!
Exactly. I own a roofing company and we've been out in the heat all summer, it's usually 120° on an asphalt roof, and we don't get tips (nor expect or solicit them). I pay my employees and it's priced into the cost of the roof.
If we're working 10+ hours in excessive heat and don't expect tips, why should some barista in an air conditioned coffee shop? They shouldn't, and if the owner expects it, they should increase their prices and pay their employees accordingly.
The whole reason why tipping became a social norm in America is because people felt sorry for underpaid black workers who were employed by the hotels before the civil rights movement, The hotel industry lobbied the government to keep workers wages at slave labour levels which still exist today. You seen some waiters on 4 dollars an hour in 2024 and the difference is supplemented by the taxpayer if they do not receive equviance in tips to the national minimum wage.
So not only are you being scammed for tipping. You are being scammed by the government having to tax the tips you send out and prevent people withholding information on the tips they received. You pay the tip and the wages and the wages of the fraud investigators and court cases brought against fraudsters lol.
@@kylemenos the government doesn't set wages or keep them low, the company does. Its not the governments job nor their fault if wages are too low. its the fault of the company, the employee and the customers. The only way the government does actually keep wages low is by stifling competition and killing small businesses with taxes, fees and regulations.
Delivery drivers and waitresses make below minimum. If you want to fix tipping culture then you'd have to first get rid of the employer's ability to underpay employees. Even half of the 'delivery fee', is taken by the employer. Drivers make like half their hourly wage while driving and they have to constantly clock in and out. They also fight over houses they know will tip more and it creates a ridiculous iniquity for new drivers that don't know yet.
This video and the comments are all failing to understand what's going on.
@@nyne2022We know exactly what's going on, we're being scammed into paying salaries for people we don't employ. Just stop tipping and let the whole business model collapse. Nowhere else in the world works that way, the waiters will find better paying jobs.
20% to take your order? Your server doesnt even bring the plates to the table most the time.
20% for cold coffee? Nope
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my rule is if they are refilling my drink, i will tip.
That’s because servers “tip out” other people in the restaurant. I work as a server, and we tip out 6% of our sales to bussers, food runner, drink runner and bartenders.
@@Vardeth805 Bussers should not get a tip. A tip for cleaning the tables? Give me a break.
2:08 "San Fansisco startup called 'Up Tip'... aims to facilitate cashless tipping."
I'll take 600 for problems that already have a solution.
People are much more willing to part with their money it they physically cannot see it. Cashless tipping was to be expected with greedy business practices.
@@mrbigboymemebigboycashless tipping has been normal for years. Idk why we'd need a start-up for that
I swear I can remember as far back as like 2002 when the waiter/waitress would tell my dad 'That will be 74,50 (or w/e)' and he'd respond 'please make it 80' and then he'd swipe his debit card. it's insane to have a startup for something I know for a fact was already easily doable 22 years ago.
I was thinking the same thing: What do they accept puppies instead of cash?
Why is everything in California so awful?
Australian here. Visited the US last year and was shocked at the tipping culture. I would go and get a take away coffee and the barista would turn over the ipad so customers behind me can see how much i tipped. I always pressed no tip, as I dont believe I have to tip a $6 take away coffee as no table service was offered. Ridiculous.
I mean good for you dude, but tipping 1$ to a barista means they go from having a job that just pays the bills to having a nice life. You don't have to do it, but if it has no impact to you can literally changes somebodies life maybe don't feel all holier than thou
@@samuellang9761 Or the owners could pay the Barista a decent wage rather then putting that responsibility on the customers.
@@Tony-wu4wk I mean they pay enough to live, it's not really possible for them to pay 30$ an hour for a barista unfortunately. Hey if you are too poor to tip thats okay too, but this whole attitude that they don't deserve it is fucking weird. I tip well everywhere I go, I tip when I travel in Europe. I think it's a good thing and we should all support each other.
American here. Agreed! Starbucks does not need a tip to hand me a tea.... I tip well for actual services rendered, but not for taking a cup from someone.
@samuellang9761 if they're charging $6 a coffee, and that barista is making 1 coffee every 3 minutes for 20 coffees an hour, they can afford to pay them $20 or more an hour easily, even factoring in other costs of running a business.
2:24 Asmon: "I think that this problem is a joke."
Me, a European: "Couldn't agree more." *closes video"
Damn that must suck to be European, brother. Hopefully things improve in your life.
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@@flankman9385 Considering all the social, economical and political issues in the US covered by Asmon alone, I will politely leave you with the delusion that living in Europe is a crutch. 😉
In Europe it is allowed to tip.. The restaurant owner should pay his employees well in the first place
If you tip in most places in Europe that aren't restaurants, it's straight up an insult
There's nothing more cringe than the owner of a restaurant fighting for tips - they literally benefit from it.... massively...
I don't understand that. If they benefit from it massively why wouldn't they fight for tips?
@@gh3meister doesn't make it not cringe
@Nomad_OG yes, but you put it after that like it is the reason it is cringey when it is obvious an owner would want something that they benefit from
@@gh3meister real and true
everyone benefits except the customer, i don't understand why everyone pins this all on business owners.... wait staff DO NOT WANT regular wages, they run off with a huge bag from tipping
Tipping has evolved to a point where it's not about appreciation for good service but more of a social obligation and implicit rule. The power should remain in the hands of the customer without any guilt attached.
20% of what I order? So if one person goes in and orders champagne and lobster thermidor or seven people goes in and orders a glass of water each and the seven cheapest things on the menu , the serving personal will have more work with the party of seven than the one, but will get more money from the one customer than the seven. How is this even logical?
Exactly.
That's a good point
I drive Lyft and 95% of passengers don't tip me, then I walk into a place to get some food and they spin that tip screen around at the counter. Just FOAD with that shit
Yeah the tipping at random places is annoying for sure
Why, when I order carry out, do they still ask for a tip? Like... I ordered carry out because I didn't want to tip.
@@ajolleyduck2933 they don't ASK but it's implied when they spin the screen around and give you that awkward look, which is absolutely ridiculous because most of these employees don't even bring the food to your table these days. They hand you a buzzer or number and you walk up to the counter to get it yourself, expecting a tip in those kinds of places is such a scam.
@hussle2654 yup. Extremely ridiculous. And I only tip for delivery because it's expected of me, but this may have convinced me otherwise now
@@ajolleyduck2933 you gotta tip for delivery, they won't deliver your food if there isn't a tip. They literally work for tips too so they have all the incentive to not deliver your food without the tip
People don't realize that restaurants are legally allowed to pay their workers less than minimum wage BECAUSE we are tipping. Tipping is genuinely a bad thing.
Yeah and people would rather complain about it or make content about it rather than demanding a policy change in the state they live in.
No.... They're allowed to because people voted those laws into place.
@@nevous8why aren't YOU out there doing it?
Sounds like thats the waggie problem bud
@@unlisted9494your going to each comment and typing the same garbage. Sad no one cares
Years ago it was 10%. Now it’s 20%? Soon it’s gonna be 100%. No thank you. Pay your employees better.
Also, everyone is asking for a tip these days. Absolutely not! That’s your job. You aren’t doing me a favor. Don’t like it? Get another job.
You don't like tipping eat somewhere else or make your own food.
@@andycrowson1013
You don't like not being tipped, work somewhere else and make your own money.
@@BunniMonsterso you're gonna keep giving Applebee's money, but not me? Real smart. Way to stick it to A man instead of THE man.
@@andycrowson1013 why? I’ll eat whatever or wherever I please. If construction workers started asking for tips for doing their job, it would be ridiculous right? I’ve never had to ask residents or commercial companies to tip me for annual testing or fixing their fire life and safety. Never asked for a tip for fixing some EMT pipe that was damaged. Maybe I should. I could make a shit load more then.
@@danielschmaderer my point is if you buy from a corporation that doesn't pay their employees enough money. They'll continue to not pay them enough money. I'm assuming your boss cares more about the customers money coming in the you as an individual. Servers aren't multimillionaires. If a construction company was abusing it's workers and I was against it my solution wouldn't be to attack the employee, but to boycott the employer.
“20% is the standard”
From there you know they’re just lying.
When did 20 percent become the standard? It was always 15 percent.
@@guysmiley4830 When I was growing up, 10% was the standard. (A lot of people back in the day were like "I give God 10% as my tithing, why would a waiter get more than God?")
That being said, 20% is ultimately an arbitrary number - but some of the contributing factors is that nobody carries exact change / cash anymore, and nobody takes their calculator out to do the math of the credit card slip to the penny = meaning that everyone just rounds to the next (good sounding) dollar amount. Also, most single-meal prices are less than $20, and people feel that leaving a tip for less than $2 comes off as rude = meaning that most people just default to $2 for anything less than $20 [meaning that if they have a $10 meal, they tip $2 which is 20% = and that's where people think "I guess 20% is what the number should be"].
I say we eliminate tipping all together - raise prices of food to be what it needs to be - and if the restaurant fails, I'm sorry friend! That's capitalism! You should have made your quality go up and your prices go down.
Well it is - in a full service restaurant and assuming the service was good.
@@guysmiley4830 i was in the US in 2002.... 10% was the norm back then
@@MiaMizunono, it's always been 15%
I moved from Canada to Finland. I got a really great haircut from a hairdresser before my wedding. I asked her where I can enter the tip while I was paying, and she said that it wasn't a thing.
Rakastan Suomea!
Didn't ask
Finland is a tiny nation with a fairly equalist system and steep income tax, so they can get away with anything they want, as they take enough money from all income to adjust, and allow for higher and more universal min wages, along with other support given to the people across society (so, they don't need as much money on top). America is not built like that, so tipping does actually help many jobs and people. On top of this, there has been a major culture of tipping and 'high-quality service' since the 1950s in America. Partly for this very reason and partly for cultural reasons.
Typically, what happens is, the female acts really nice and wonderful, and the male tips her for it. This is a widely known thing. I actually think like Matt: it makes sense and is a very simple, American thing, and 20% is the norm. But, the way it's been going lately is crazy, for sure, so I can see why people are anti-tipping now. And, as Asmongold said, it's the entitlement of typically Gen Z female workers now demanding tips for BAD service. This is just one element of the wider problem of the modern world and Gen Z, not innately tipping itself or the service industry. On top of that, there is now a big movement away from men even caring about women, or wanting to tip them for any service, or feeling like they need to pay them any attention. Nobody really questioned this whole thing back in the 1980s, for example, and there was a major willing culture of men actually wanting to give money to women for offering good service in cafés, diners, and otherwise.
In fact, it began in London coffee houses in about 1850 or 1860 and soon came to America.
Funny I would be against tipping except in this case lol
If you are okay with tip you are considered poor af and that's not a good thing in a country where most people are rich, or at least middle class. But you can't flex with wealth either or you are considered a prick. That's the basic rules of wealth here
@Jecttrades Actually It's: Dodn't ask. Please use correct grammar.
I worked in the service industry for 7+ years, am almost always very pro-tip, but I'm starting to agree with the more anti-tipping sentiments because it's gotten too ridiculous. Even when I go out to eat at a sit-down restaurant, the server tells me to scan my own menu with a QR code, put in my own order on a tablet at the table, then a runner that isn't even my server brings my food out, then when I pay they hand me a tablet to swipe my own card. I'm supposed to tip 25% to a person I barely spoke to and didn't even do anything for me? Also, I can't even buy groceries anymore where I BAG MY OWN STUFF without getting prompted to tip at the end... it's crazy.
Sounds like McDonald's. Do you tip McDonald's ?
Sounds like Chilis, I stopped going there when they implemented the table ordering system, I’m not even sure if they still do it but I’m not willing to go back to see either
@@romano3771 what's funny is McDonald's really don't need to tip. They can prompt to donate to their house fund charity fair enough, but why should I tip for fast food? It's meant to be cheap shitty grub. It's not high end, there's no expected standard for service outside of basic respect. Hell, the McDonald's House Charities helped my mother when she couldn't find a place to stay overnight after giving birth to my sister. There are plenty of reasons to donate. There are very little, if any, to tip.
It's only in USA. please don't export it :)
It's definitely gotten out of hand. I was a poker dealer for 10 years, made most of my money from tips and it was a great job! But at this point I'd rather see companies pay their employees fair wages and do away with tipping.
If anything, tip screens at self checkouts should be illegal. In fact, I should get a discount for doing the work!
Tipping in the UK is mostly done when you feel like the person assisting you in any service has gone above and beyond. It encourages them to provide a good service. If an establishment demanded a 20% tip on top of the bill here, people just wouldn’t go.
We have a minimum wage for all employees, staff are paid regardless, tips are a bonus for working hard.
That's how it used to be and how it's supposed to be here as well, but people here are easily brainwashed into doing whatever they're told.
That's how it should be
Tipping is one of the many reasons I wouldn't want to live in the US.
Some younger people started copying off of Americans earlier this year tho saying because of the cost of living people should tip .. one girl got sacked because she demanded a customer tip her in a cafe 😂 like why do we copy off of Americans problems and try to apply them to our country. It got shut down quickly and a few bosses told their staff to never ask for tips and just be greatful if someone puts money in the tip jar by the till as they are paid the minimum wage.
Was proper cringe and embarrassing copying off of Americans just because you saw it online and thought you’d get away with it here
Is getting worse here in the UK though.
I was out at a bar with work colleagues, and when I get my round in I saw they'd added a service charge...when the customer had some to the bar to order the drink! I took that charge right off and laughed about it when I got back to the table, only to find that others had paid it 😂 never went there again...
I decided to be nice a few times and tip a dollar or 2 at a drive thru or pick up at my favorite places. But twice, I was charged the non-tipped total AND the tipped total. I'm poor af, so getting charged $16 twice meant I couldn't eat the next day. I stopped tipping completely unless I'm sitting down some place.
"it's not that simple." Take it from somebody who felt "stuck" in food service for 15 years, then decided to leave and get into engineering/manufacturing, IT IS that simple.
@@TheHeroClass as an electrician, I can absolutely agree. There’s an out to work that is needed that pays VERY well. It just takes wanting to make the change.
for the people who need to hear this. move into a cheap roommate situation. work a beginner job. buy a cheap car with cash. maintain it. while you are working that beginner job apply to beginner manufacturing job that pays more. save money for education from local trade school/community college program (inquiry with them/search online what jobs) with a guaranteed high paying job. graduate/ get certification. Move anywhere in the usa, work, repeat earlier steps to save up for home. American Dream.
08:55 The sentence " iTs nOt tHaT sImPlE " has been stigmatized so much, that whenever I hear it, I know the person saying it, is full of shit.
I 100% agree with OP.
Staying stuck is a fear based choice.
@@Monorissjust like every word and sentence some people start with nowa days .. when they use certain words or start a sentence this way I just think “right I’m turing off right now because this is about to be bull crap”
"any time there was mandatory gratuity, i'd steal their silverware." hilarious and based 😂
People living outside the US (like me)
Tipping? Its optional and the workers/servers here aren't whiny about having no tip
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I'm in Australia, I've never been asked for a tip, or felt obligated to do so.
Not that I won't, will often if it's a large group (6+) and staff have been on the ball with service, especially when we have kids with us and they're considerate of them and get them drinks and small snacks first while we wait to be served our meals. Of course, that's only restaurants.
in the US, service workers do not get full min wage.. back in the day when min wage was 5 bucks, the waitors got 2.01 plus tips... they didnt get min wage.. still dont.
@@jeffhall2411 that's half true, they have the option to either work for salaried or set wage that could be higher than the minimum or they can opt to go with a being a tipped position in which case they may make a lot more than salaried or make peanuts if it's a slow shift. Either way it's a voluntary choice. Tipped workers *opt* in and the understanding was they WORKED for those tips, not doing the bare minimum but going above and beyond, providing excellent and attentive service. Not showing up with a pulse, a bad attitude and a hand out.
@@jeffhall2411 and that's up to them to change that. Here in Europe tipping is optional, establishments owners pay full salary to their workers
Why are we even paying a %? You buy a dish with truffles and suddenly the staff deserve more money? Lol...
You ask for 30 glasses of water and suddenly they deserve nothing ;D
@@Reelixexactly. My folks raised me to never tip unless it was exceptional and great. It's not required and YOU worked for your money so you are NOT obligated to every single time you eat food. I usually tip because I have great luck with very sweet servers who are super attentive so they Deserve that extra. But when they're going the minimum, I tip the minimum. Zero. Sorry Charlie.
20% is not a tip.
It's a tax
Yeah, it's a tax on people who were too lazy to make their own meal. Make your own food if you don't like it. Don't complain about dealing with a robot to take/deliver your order to your table if you refuse to pay for service work
15% is also a tax buddy.
@@unlisted9494 Nah, I paid for the food. I don't need to pay a tip.
@@unlisted9494 Their employer is the one who should be paying for service work not the customer are you slow or something? In what other business is the client expected to pay the worker's salary?
@@unlisted9494 The owner should pay his slaves more.
My views on tipping changed dramatically when I worked at Chick-fil-a for over a year. We were not allowed to take tips. We served food and provided the pinnacle of customer service, but we COULD NOT TAKE TIPS. Publix Supermarkets are the same way too. So it began to aggravate me whenever I went to Starbucks or other Fast Service restaurants and had tip requests thrown in my face constantly. Why would I want to tip someone for the quality of a service that should be part of your job description? I will tip at restaurants, but I draw the line when the employees are making above minimum wage.
@@rwwr3041 my big takeaway for grocery retail is that while the cost is slightly more expensive, the service part IS what separates you from, say, Target or Wal Mart etc. If you aren't getting good service, you might as well go where it's cheaper because even if the staff is rude, at least it's cheap lmao
Do you get praise to go to work on time? No, of course not but that beyond the point. I think tipping have been turn into an excuse for the suit at the top to not paying live able wage
But honestly you guys shouldnt tip for anything. Thats how we do it here in europe works just fine and most of the time if we "tip" its at a restaurant and we just let the waiter keep the change if its something like few euros. Alltho because most people pay with cards you dont even do that. I guess if you have some loose change in your pocket you could put it in a tip jar.
Chick fil a based af
"And if you're uncomfortable with a woman having the agency to explain any of this to you, again, stay." Of course they bring some identity BS into it, to shame you even more.
think of the wammen and their 1 dollarino per hour joberinos
what I employ as a tactic is that I just stop acknowledging their existence until they do things that their job requires of them, like taking the payment for tipless check and saying goodbye have a good day.
Portuguese here: Tiping is meant to thank for the good service and not to suplement a salary that the employer is not wiling to give! We tip if you are well treated, with kindness, respect and good food. Other wise we won't tip and make sure we let you know the food as shit!
Tips should not be an obligation, but a reward for going above and beyond. It shouldn't be a way for companies to pass off their responsibility of paying minimum wage onto the customer.
see also: student loans
That's how it is in over 190 countries.
The "owner" part is hillarous .... How about you start by paying a decent salairy instead of asking people to tips.
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How about the fact a good server makes way more than they would with a "decent" pay rate.
@@jimmanis6717 this. Servers make way more than they would if they got paid like $15 an hour. They would abosultely not want tip culture to go away. Where else can they make the same money for unskilled labor
@@jimmanis6717 how about stop guilt tripping customer to give you money like beggars.
@@FatBunny168if you feel like tipping, then tip, if not, don't. But let someone else dictate how you should spend your money based off of emotions
It’s the entitlement that if you don’t tip, they’re going to fuck with your food. That’s the part that gets me. It makes me want to help you even less.
That’s why I order from places that ask for the tip AFTER I’ve eaten my food, so they don’t get the tips and so don’t get spit in my food.
They won't know if you tip until the end lol
@@floridamulletman5000Some places make you tip beforehand
And than im going to break into their apartments while they're out getting tips.
well then I get to sue for food malicious food poisoning. win win.
The problem all stems from the government allowing employers to pay servers below minimum wage based on the assumption that they will get a regular flow of tips to supplement their wage. But a lot of corporate restaurants have tip sheets where you log your tips for the week and if your total tips plus paycheck is below minimum wage the company is required to account for the rest. The problem with that is that most employees are never made aware of it.
The customer should never have to compensate for a stingy employer who doesn't pay his staff adequately.
thats pretty much what happens. if you leave a tip at a fast food place, the company effectively pockets the money for themselves. how that works is that in most state you can pay tipped employees less than minimum wage. however if the tipped employee makes less tips than minimum wage, the company has to make up the difference. so unless people tip fast food employees more than their hourly wage the fast food company gets to keep it
If u want restaurants they should.
Well it's that or the food prices go up. They've shown this a ton of times. You'll likely end up pay the same or more. However, I completely agree. Tipping needs to go away and we need to just pay servers A regular livable wage.
Well said i agree 10000%
@@PelicansCourtsideClub Resturants don't need tips to function. The rest of the World works just fine with it as an optional extra that you only pay if you want to.
My favorite thing is when I go eat alone at a restaurant, and my waitress barely comes to my table or checks on if I need a refill etc in favor of the massive table with 8 people because they know they are likely to get a big tip there. Then they get silently angry that I don't give them a tip when the only thing they did was take my order and drop the food off never to be seen again. What am I tipping for? lol.
100% this. I have even had this happen when I was there with my family for a total of five people sitting and eating (easily a $90+ tab these days). Even my girl would give me a mean look when I suggest giving no tip at all (she used to work as a server a long time ago) and I have to remind her that all the server did was give us drinks, set our food down, and then disappear for the entire 30+ minutes we were there, and we were only able to get refills by flagging down a different server who then took 10+ minutes to bring us drinks. I would rather tip the cooks for the good food if anything.
YEP100%............. like people that say oh you should tip them because they brought food what ever. Fuck that if it was up to me I would get my own fucking drink and food because I can do it faster any way andn ot have to sit and wait around etc.
@DarkcelForever yeah the waiters dont get minimum wage like you do. They get paid "tipped worker" wage which is around 2.15 an hour and relys on tips to survive. you get payed to do a simple job and never talk to anyone. they get payed to deal with customers.
@@Tribossss Wrong, they get paid "tipped worker" wage, but if "tipped worker" wage + tip /=/ highest minimum wage (between fed and state) then they get paid the difference and there are MANY waiters that don't report their tips or under report to take advantage of this. So often times the waiters are making FAR more than the cooks.
following a recipe and working under pressure is not hard work, that's why you don't need a degree to be a fry cook. you have a set pay and they do not. just because you had a bad experience with a bad server or two doesn't mean we all haven't had bad experiences with cooks. you dont deal with people. they do.
"if u don't tip 20% tips stay home"
ok, i stay home
"man why is my business lacking clients? what i'm doing wrong?"
eating popcorn from home
i will tip when i think the work was worth it, when i think i received more for the price and "i can push ur earnings a bit and not paying what would be 100% price in other place"
i'm not tipping because you think u're entitled to, nope sorry, idc what u think is required, expected, even tradition or socially right
If there was an option to tip the cook instead of the waiter I'd be doing that most of the time.
@MrPsykopeta prob had bad food to begin with? Sorry bad joke. Tbh owners and mang might have to step up and work if servers jobs go away though and in my experience in restaurants that is never good lol
It's not the businesses' fault, it's the system's. The reason they have exceptions for severs in minimum wage laws is because restaurants already operate on razor thin margins, so if they had to pay them minimum wage they would have to be packed every night and charge 15% more for their food just to be able to operate
@padarousou how do we change the system? Better fish mongers and local farm bought foods? Prob save a ton of money rather than using Sisco or similar. Employee owned/shared contributions and returns? Most of my comments are about uber drivers so I havnt really sat and thought about servers and restuarant owners. Oh they can brew own beer and make own wine and cheese etc. Butcher own meats. They're is prob a lot struggling owners can do but involves working 💪. For system wise ??? Is it taxes gas prices insurance prices or what that is effecting that system? I really don't know.
I am a server in a full service restaurant and I personally enjoy working for tips. The biggest problem is there is no consistency. My biggest gripe is when people come in and splurge on drinks/expensive meals and don’t tip. I feel a little guilty when the table that drinks water leaves more than 20%. It’s unfair to all parties except the restaurant owners and corporate executives who couldn’t care less. Either tipping needs to become standardized or abolished in favor of hourly wages.
If you meet a person defending tipping, ask them why they don't tip in hospitals. Healthworkers deserve more tips than a person who just takes your orders. If not tipping is a punishment, healthworkers are punished so much.
Health workers get paid $3 -$5-$10 per hour? People who are servers and cashiers do. Is there "eating in restaurant" insurance PLUS a charge for each plate ,paper napkin and amount of electricity you used like a hospital would?
@@moxiemaxie3543why don’t you tip your amazon delivery driver or postman but tip the doordash guy? they’re literally doing the same thing.
I’ll tell you why: the service industry bamboozled you into thinking those giving you food or drinks need to be given extra money. time to wake up, you’re welcome.
@@mencibencibecause those delivery drivers you just mentioned make AT LEAST minimum wage!! Waiters, however, don’t and rely on tips
@@SkyscannerGuyJr. You do know all waiters by law can ask for minimum wage if tips dont make up to minimum wage.
No one legally makes under minimum wage. Restaurants are REQUIRED to pay the difference if tips don't, however, if tips make up the difference (or more) the business doesn't have to pay additional. I hope that clarifies how waitstaff is paid. Also, in some states, they make minimum wage + tips. @moxiemaxie3543
There needs to be a no tipping section at restaurants. We don’t need someone to grind pepper into our food. I’ll do it myself and save 20% of the bill.
Most have one, it's called takeout
@@kawkasauroustakeout delivery drivers also expect tips
@@mencibenci order and pickup, no tip required.
@@kawkasaurouspeople still want the setting.
Food, setting, and no dishes. That’s what (most) people want.
People dont mind getting up and walking to a counter to get the food. So yes, there should be self service stations
@@0xstoney Having servers is part of the setting. And how is it that you know what most people want? If all restaurants suddenly started doing self service then what if it turned out to be like pumping gas or the self-checkout lines in grocery stores where there is 16 self service lines and one actual service line? I would rather pay tips to the waiter for bringing my old grandpa who doesn't want to walk across the restaurant than turn into the waiter for him. If you don't like it, don't go to a sit down restaurant, that's part of the deal, it's part of the setting.
The real stupid part is asking for tips where there isn't full service like at a fast food place. But even if all these restaurants had self service stations like you said, they'd still all probably ask for tips anyway.
Only dam country in the world where businesses are cheap enough to not pay they employees and push that responsibility on the customers.
It's not the only one you earwax
- Someone who doesn't work in business
@@batialexis9339 You right, it's the third one around but the #1 that dominates it.
Where do you think they will get the money to pay the employees more? Do you think they will charge the same and just make less?
Tipping is not etiquette, it's service payment. You should be against tipping but not for this STUPID reason, you should be against tipping because it's anti-capitalist. Percentile tipping is literally just waving money in front of people to make them dance for you, it's what used to be offering slaves watermelons as "reward".
But you let people focus on memes you don't even know WHY they are offensive while this crap happens all the time. USA multiplied its use of forced labor by banning slavery, which means that your servants are at earshot and you're obligated to feed them. No more when they're out of sight, out of mind and the entire country fixes GDP by cooking the books.
Now you "tip" and impoverish foreign nations and everyone only gets PORTIONS of the cheap meal prices you pay, for running all over the country to bring you food. You buying some crap fast food should make you pay MORE for wasting their time, not less because it's "20%" of your poverty levels.
I used to be a delivery driver for a couple of years, and we had a sign on the wall saying that we would be compensated if we didn't get enough tips to at least make minimum wage. So I was never concerned about whether or not I got tipped and just tried to treat the customer right. But some of the drivers would throw fits if they didn't get (pre) tipped as much as they felt they deserved... Just stop tipping and let these businesses be left liable for covering what they should've been paying their employees this whole time.
Ever see the video of the door dash lady that left a note in the customer's food bag that said, "you are lucky I didn't do anything to your food. Consider tipping next time." but that was because the lady didn't tip when ordering, but she tried to tip her at the front door. Then the delivery lady was embarrassed as hell and told her to ignore the note in the bag and forget the tip.
I would not eat that food after reading the note. Itd go in the bin and id be getting my money back.
omg thats crazy entitlement. i'm in uk so tip isnt the standard here but if i tip delivery drivers its always done AFTER i receive the food. how and why would you ever tip while ordering when you dont even know what level of service you're going to receive at that point?!
Lol dude the amount of times an Uber Eats order gas gone off the rails... Tipping before you get it is crazy.
I'd tell them to keep the tip because it'll be the last one they ever get and take that vaguely threatening note to their supervisor
@@er_clmate some people copied off of this story with America here in the U.K. and started saying because of the cost of living people should tip .. as usual people copying off of Americas problems and applying it to our country. It got shut down quickly and one girl even got sacked for saying to a customer they should tip her 😅
An owner that expects a 20% minimum tip needs to instead roll that into their menu upfront and then make it a commision on employee income - demanding the customer handle it is a pathetic way to pass the buck.
tips used to be if you felt like someone did an exceptional job helping you out. It was never suppose to be a default aspect of payment. Part of the problem is restaurants say to workers "you will make tips here".
precisely! Im full for tipping, theres absolutely nothing worng with giving someoke a little extra for going a little extra on your behalf, reward kindness with kindness, but if these goombas think its a mandatory tax on my purchase they should take it up with their boss why its not in my pricetag or their wage.
Tipping started during the great depression when restaurants couldn't afford wait staff so they nudged their customers to tip and it never went away. Tipping was never meant to be "if they went above and beyond" its a scam so restaurant owners can make more profit. Either way you'll be paying about the same if they got rid of tipping everything would go up in price since they have to pay waiters more
@@inoffensivename1773 Tipping started in the united states almost 100 yrs before the great depression
@@abprepboy33 maybe tipping for good service, im more so referring to when tipping became expected and relied upon by wait staff g
@@inoffensivename1773 ohhhh.... i feel loike the outright expectation came in the last 10-15 yrs, and completely went off the rails in the last 3-5 yrs. I dont think tipping was like this since the depression. I dont thinkt he 70s had this problem with tipping everywhere. Ironically, service was a lot better in the 50s and 60s than it is now in almost every industry
I just order takeout and pick it up myself. No service had, no tip given
I knew the system was screwed when the tip was based on the price of your meal. How could "percentages" ever come into play? How could the tip be more for steak than for a burger and fries? That's the dumbest thing ever. Tips are based on the quality of the service you receive...not the price of what you order.
and the crazy part is, I know what I want
I can write it down and take it to the counter to order. Or if they using a tablet I can press buttons on a screen too. In fact I may have programmed that very ordering system thats being used
There are some restaurants i my city that have a qr code to a menu website that you order through, and the servers are just there to deliver food and clean tables, barely any service at all.
Ur not expected to tip full 20% on overpriced items, or alcohol. U still tip $1 on a $12 stadium beer.
Not to mention they expect the tip to be based on the total with tax.
People tipping the people not even making their food 5 year old or younger could bring you your food
It’s not up to the customer to pay the worker a livable wage, it is the responsibility of the business, if the business can’t afford to pay its workers, then it doesn’t not deserve to remain open.
It’s not when federal wage laws says they can pay them only $3 an hour if there is expected to be tips.
@@blackyvertigo Ergo that business should lose its workers and go out of business. Problem solved.
@@blackyvertigo
They need to change the federal wave laws to like what Japan has.
@@blackyvertigo you job pay only 3$? find other job simple, let the owner get fked wihout workers
@mateussoares3569 fine and dandy until you realize you're back to cooking 3 meals a day for you or your family while trying to hold down 2 full time jobs to afford rent and food, and can't go out to eat once in a while because there's no service. It's not the owners fault the fed has been setting the wages across the country for decades
I always think that tipping is kind of a scam, it shift the responsibility of the business owner to provide good service at the expense of their worker and customer.
its not a common practice in most country in the world and add extra complexity to otherwise a simple process.
good service is not complementary, its mandatory.
well said.
we all instinctively understand but no one will say it tipping is literally a remnant of slavery/jim crow if no one has to pay you unless you fall over yourself putting on a show of subservience and you can easily get thrown in prison for being poor and black where the 13th amendment allows prison slavery well.. we all get it now right?
@@clachdhearg2109 That didn't nearly make as much sense as you think it did when you wrote it out.
In supermarkets in the US, do they still show you the cost of products without tax included in the price? I think that's another big scam only US citizens are still victim of.
@@EternalKhann absolutely but its not just supermarkets, its literally everything, and the reason it is that way is because long ago there wasn't a sales tax, and then there was a sales tax and businesses said lol make the customer pay it instead, which is technically illegal but law enforcement/justice system/military are so corrupt nothing is done about it.
Tipping is stupid. It's supposed to be optional and a thank you for good service. If its required its not a tip it's a fee. Tipping needs to go away. If you cannot afford to pay your employees a proper wage, then you shouldn't be running a business.
Other countries don't have tipping, in fact they find it insulting to be tipped. America on the other hand found out they can guilt trip people into paying the employees wages for them. It might make me seem like an asshole but I'm sorry I agree with Asmon. It's not my problem your boss doesn't pay you enough. I got asked to tip the guy at the counter in the Little Caesars the other day. I'm there to buy a $6 hot and ready pizza. I'm not gonna tip you for pulling an already cooked pizza out of a hot metal box right behind you and not even having to walk 3 steps. If you don't get paid enough find another job.
I realized after getting out of the service industry that working for tips is just gambling your wages. I have friends who have worked serving jobs since they were 18 (late 20s now) because of how good the money is, but they're also the first to rant and shame people who dont tip.
Yup, and if you're halfway decent looking and sociable, you can make a killing. It literally becomes a trade for some people.
yeah its a grift. The more they shame, the less people will go out. Especially now with the COL being out of control, most people just say F** it to dining out.
I think that's an important part of why nothing changes. Because the workers make more now then if they would get paid minimum wage by their boss...
@@cyanl.2245 and they should be getting minimum wage. If you complain about a fry cook flipping burgers at $15/hr then why aren’t you complaining about the server going from point a to point b making $300 in tips for 4hours a night.
@@matthewharrington420 ok?
Im from Australia and tipping isnt part of our culture at all, however if you go to a fancy restaurant and spend over $100 your probably going to give a small tip but only if you get actual good service, if service was mediocre then you just woudnt give a tip. I worked with a girl from canada who was complaining that she was making hardly any money from tips as a bartender while making $25 an hour.
Tipping expectations is only in North America, and I guess tourist places where rich 'Americans' go to vacation.
In France, the tip is called a "pour boire" which means "to drink". So it litteraly means "I give you few euros (between 1 and 5 usually) so you can get yourself a treat, like a cup of cafee or something" when we receive good service. And I think it's a fair way to do the tipping.
In Germany it's called "Trinkgeld" (drinking money). It's about the same reasons like yours. 😁
All of my disagreement with this is people's attitudes to take it out on eachother and not the corporations. Sad clown world mentality. I disagree w asmond take on this (for uber drivers) we need to make them pay liveable wages. Their business model is trash.
@@S.andalphon You are right. But we Europeans can't change a thing. It's a US-Problem.
@@solidsteel3634 in Europe do you have uber? Do they actually pay drivers there and not here? Honest question. That would be very messed up on ubers end.
@S.andalphon yea they got uber there and it's still generally the same percentage prompt
If the tip is EXPECTED, that means there's a chance of you not getting it.
I will be the one providing you that chance, buddy.
I get asked to tip my damn tax lady... they've crossed the line
enjoy the audit
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Tax on top of tax is crazy
@@requiem522 tax your check. Tax more when you spend. Tax you again when you file taxes.
It’s crazy
Went to a concert not too long ago. Got a couple bottles of water (nothing special), each costing something like $15, so that right there was already a robbery. On top of that, they asked for a tip. Tip for them walking over to the fridge and grabbing a couple of waters. Yeah.... things got out of control.
at least was not 100 bucks for 1 , like i see in some concerts
Fucking hell...
I went to a concert last week, in the netherlands.
I walk up to the bar and ask for water, they give me a cup of water free of charge because they dont want people stinging on water and getting dehydrated.
I hope this shit gets better everywhere
@@Demoniodgthe west literally invents problems that have never even existed in 3rd world countries
@@zeldaking13 Why would it get better when the that person will fight tooth and nail to be able to sell water for $15?
They have tipping at subway now... i stood the whole time waiting, i wasnt served or seated. 0% tip you're welcome. Get that outta here.
A tip went from a token of appreciation for better than expected service to something that is expected. It should never be expected, if it's a fee rather than a gratuity it should be included in the cost of the meal.
I love that instead of paying her employees more, the restaurant owner chooses to berate the customers to subsidize her payroll. That will do wonders for her business lol.
There better be a hawk Tua included in a 20% tip!!
The funniest part is that they managed to convince their staff that it's the employees fault that they're underpaid! ;D
I placed an order last night from my local pizza place. All I had was a $50. I told them to tell the driver so they would have change. The driver when I opened the door was already sassy. And I handed him the money. The total was just shy of $30. I asked for $20 back and he gave me a look. A look like I just said something bad about his mother or something. And he got tipped $4 and some change on top the $19 an hour they get paid and half of the delivery charge which is $4.99 Dude, thank you for your food and now leave. Entitled @$$. Yet I worked for companies doing triple the work this guy does and haven’t come close to getting paid what hit does. Where is my tip at?!
Upya
No delivery driver gets paid 19$ an hour. They also don’t get any of the 5$ fee. They also destroy their car, gas, oil, tires, milage. That is easily searchable online. Dominoes and papa johns take the entire delivery fee and the average salary is 4$ when on the road and 8$ when in store.
@@nickxcaliber7991 Yep, I had a friend working at Dominoes as a driver and she told me the same, but she thought a portion of the delivery fee (not all of it), goes to gas mileage for drivers or something like that. She was doing great with tips at least but it's a silly system the US has with tipping.
@@nickxcaliber7991nobody’s forcing anyone to work a particular job. if he doesn’t like it, he can quit. until then, he should blame the employer for not paying him a fair wage instead of the customer for not giving him free money lmao you people are bamboozed so hard it’s not even funny
@@mencibenci ok, so you want all the drivers to get another job because no one wants to pay them, then you’ll go pick it up yourself. So your the only one complaining here. You dont want to pay the drivers because your to lazy to drive yourself, but you don’t want the restaurant to charge you double for the pizza so they can pay the driver. No ones complaining here but you
As a former waiter, $2 is just fine at a diner and the actual percentage is 12% not 20%. It is also unprofessional to expect a tip. Do your job properly and most people will absolutely tip. Non tippers are very few and far between. Any waiter not walking out every day with at least $100 is a terrible waiter and should quit instead of whining on the internet about not getting enough tips or not being tipped at all making waiters look like entitled brats.
Eh depends on where you live. Some waiters deal with very swingy days business wise. Also you can get totally hosed by a large party who camped in your section all night. Most of the time though you are probably correct.
@@Robert-ms2xs Large parties 9 time out of 10 have included gratuity on the bill. Any party >= 7/8 customers guarantees you included gratuity. Sure, you don't get to just pocket it, or likely claim 100% of the tip, but you are getting a tip that is easily going to be 18 - 20% of a $100+ bill.
i really agree with this take, but i think that asmon encouraging people the way he did in this video is actually disgusting. i’m a server too and i take pride in my work, and the only time i feel like i deserve a tip is if i gave great service. real servers aren’t entitled, asking for a tip, we worked for it.
it really depends on the area your in, some places are real trashy and normally the people bitching about not getting good tips are bare minimum servers.
regardless, this video generalizes a lot of tipping situations and i think it’s pretty damaging to encourage people with this dogshit way of thinking.
I love asmon and normally fw his takes, but this seems like crazy rage bait if he really thinks like this
@@Robert-ms2xsyeah i hated getting a section with 1 table and 2 party tables sometimes, and watching people sit there for 3 hours and tip 10$ on a 150+ bill. it’s one thing if your in and out but i guess people just don’t understand how this works
@@shlumped69420I think there is a definite middle ground when it comes to tip fatigue. I don’t have a problem giving a server a tip if they actually served me.
The problem, me and a lot of my friends have with tipping now, is it’s not just waiters. There is tip for coffee, pizza places that don’t cook your pizza, drive through restaurants. It is getting absolutely ridiculous. On top of the absolutely crazy food prices in my area.
One time i went to a poutine place downtown and i told the guy behind the counter "just a bottle of coke" just the 355ml bottle and when i went to pay for my 1 drink that the guy working pulled out of a fridge the machine actually asked for a tip. I was thinking this business in no way should have anything to do with tips
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Anyone remember when 10 to 15 percent was the norm. Now we're being told 20 as if it is normal as if the prior was not.
YES! It's always been 10 - 15%. 10 was standard, 15 was good. 20 was reserved for special occasions. Only person I ever tipped 20% to was this chick from high school (my dad was in the Army so this was in Germany) who we had huge crushes on eachother but her dad hated me so we just stayed single and occasionally made out.
Fast forward a year and I run into her at Applebee's outside Ft Hood where I got stationed for my first duty assignment. I topped her 20% because she was still a baddie and I had big boy money since I'd been in basic unable to spend anything.
Unfortunately her dad still hated me and she still lived at home because she was going to college and he was an E9 by that point and I was a lowly E3 so I was not about to mess with that
I do wonder what could been.
But unless we've made out I'm not giving you 20%
@@CubeInspector Cool story. The one who got away, eh?
In Spain we almost never tip and nobody gives a shit. You pay for a service, period. All costs are included within the price. If you tip it's because it was an extremely exceptional (and rare) service, and even then the tip it's like 5%. It's not being cheap, it's not being an idiot
what a storyteller, especially in Catalonia nobody tips
Tip was normal when most of the bills were paid in cash. Now, usually is paid with card. Some years ago i asked in some places if I added a tip on the bill and paid with card the owner took into account and give it to the workers. Most of them said, "no, it goes to the owner". I rarely tip since then and never if I pay with card.
I think that's how it is in most countries outside of america.
What I notice though, is that american tourists come here and start tipping like crazy, and then restaurants in tourist areas start raising their expectations.
Pls americans, if you come here, tip like a normal person, 5-10% max, don't spread that shit here.
In the Netherlands I gave 30 cent tip. Like leave the change.. They felt so blessed 😂 I never tip
I just don't understand how its legal to pay your workers like 2 dollars an hour. That's fucking criminal. Workers shouldn't have to rely on tips to be able to get by.
I work in a restaurant as a cook. The amount of times I've heard the servers complain about no tip tables is insane. The folks worry about the one table that didn't tip, when they could easily clear 200 in a single day. I am sick of tipping culture in general.
Yeah you cook the food but they get the tip how fair is that
@@basillah7650 most restaurants are moving towards making servers tip out the back of the house 2 - 5% of total sales so they don't have to raise cook wages. It's wild.
I would like to ask you a question. Do you get any money from tips at all or all the money is going to the waiters or the owner takes it all?
You actually get paid a wage
@@exclibrion I never got tips once as a chef. But we'd have much much worse hours, often too much work to take breaks and the waiters would take crazy add-on or custom orders specifically so they could get big tips, even though they fuck up the flow of the kitchen. Fuck plate carriers.
In 2012, all of the servers in the restaurant I worked at were offered $18 an hour, but would not be able to accept tips. Everyone had to be on board for it to be implemented. This was just a regular local bar, grill, patio type restaurant. All of them declined the hourly rate.
1. Because then you have to be honest on your taxes 2. That is less than what they would most likely make in tips.
@IRaoulDuke Yeah that's the point for sure. "Just pay a livable wage" is always the narrative when discussing tipping culture. $18/hr in 2012 was freaking insane, far more than livable where I'm from. And everyone said no.
@IRaoulDuke yess! Most of the times I see people crying about not getting paid tips, but whenever I ask anyone working as a waiter or waitress, they earn waay over 70k... getting rich by walking with plates is the art
In 2022 I was making 17.50 as an 18 year old manager at a CVS my buddy was making $500 more than me weekly at a Rioz stake house as a server due to tips
@@jjakie07greed is a killer
When I was a kid it was expected that you give a 10% tip. Then it was 12%, then 15%. Now it is all the way up to 20% and more. Fuck that. For those who argue that they need the tips to live, fuck off. I am not the one who is signing the pay check. If you don't like what you are getting paid then ask your manager for more money, not me. You don't work for me. I don't pay you. I am just buying a sandwitch. I don't get a tip for doing my job. What? I get paid more? Well I made better life choices. Don't blame your problems on me.
Inflation exists….
@@SkyscannerGuyJr. Inflation should have no impact on the percentage of tipping. It's a percentage.
@@SkyscannerGuyJr. I don't think you understand how percenages work.
It was never 10%.
It was 15% in the 90s.
@@svan81 A time before the 90s does not exist in your head?
We had some scandals here in the UK where well known restaurants were adding service charges to their bills and taking that money as profit, not sharing it with the staff.
Serving my table? Tip
Giving me food you’re paid to provide? No tip.
Agreed fast food or self serve type asking for tips w min wage or hrly wage is wrong. Waitresses waiters drivers people who do work inside my house or car I tip. Shit even as a driver myself when I get a good tip I go back to the restiarant and split it with the waitress. I also try feeding homeless people w my 2 day a wk bs freaking disability shit. Fuck it I will stream lol grift for tips there when i can't drive or walk. Since my injury pretty much all I have done is drive. I tried other jobs but they keep laying me off for "not enough work" or other bs when i pretty much know its my medical liabilities. And for yrs I have my Dr's saying get disability but they just deny me for a long time. I did try appealing and they sat me infront of a gov Dr for 2 whole min and got denied again. I don't want handouts though anyway I'd rather find something I can do so I don't feel like my life is completely worthless.
also if you ask for tip I never tip, I only tip if I decide to do it on my own not when I'm asked.
I thought tipping was supposed to be 10%? That's what I was told visiting the US like 10 years ago.
Inflation is a bitch. There has also been a social shame campaign and now 10% is for cheap asses. 20% is the new 10%.
@blazerchris5444 it's been 15% to 20% for a long time
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@@blazerchris83 Inflation not supposed to change % when you are already charging more for the food anyway
This is only a problem in the USA. In central europe nobody expects you to tip. The waiter earns enough without tips. Not tips required for him to earn enough money. It's not mandatory or expected to tip anyone here.
In BR we also have this service fee on some restaurants, I try to avoid them as much as I can because I see it as mandatory tip.
But I think in most of them you can say that you do not accept this fee and they will remove it from your bill.
Maybe it's just difference in culture but I don't want waiters checking on me constantly, they do it in some places here, but most places I can simply raise my hand and they will come to check if I need something, maybe because I am used to it but I prefer it this way.
exactly. my girlfriend is a server & make .12 cents a fucking hour after tax, the only money any sever makes are tips & thats it
@@2001kb you probably went on places for tourists
@@calebday6988 If you live in the US and have her payslips, hundreds of lawyers will be falling over themselves to make a tonne of easy money from suing her employer.
@@Reelix her employer is texas roadhouse, a massive chain with 700+ restaurants that all do this
Was on a breakfast date, from being sat to receiving food was 1 hour 15 minutes... for breakfast. I went there often and this is the first time I didn't tip. They simply shouldn't have seated me if they didn't have the people to make the food in a timely fashion. They called me out at the register. I never went back, they closed after the pandemic. I will never come back if you argue with an optional payment.
In France, staff has an actual paycheck and full benefits. Tipping is extra, courtesy of an eventual happy customer. There is 0 pressure to tip in any way.
20$ meal
4$ tip
serves 5 people in an hour...
Thats 20$ an hour plus their standard pay... Thats a lot for going to get a plate and keeping my water full.
Yeah they can def make bank if they work at the right place, which is why they whine about tips so much. Its a grift, plain and simple.
You think thats all servers have to do? After I've had my last table i'm still there doing work for 2-3 hours of sidework and cleaning. I don't know what you do for a living, but I wouldnt assume I know everything that goes on with your job. It pretty damn silly that you assume to know how restaurant work is. Your pissed about 4 bucks? Dude, just don't eat out then.
They only get the tip money not the cost of the meal. The company gets the money from the sale
@@Vardeth805 most of these people in all these comment threads haven’t worked in the restaurant industry and are talking out of their ass. I know you get it. Thank you.
@@Vardeth805your boss should pay more sorry to say but you can't put that on the customer. Restaurants in American are literally a scam. You get tipped and have to share the money that earned at the end of the night most likely losing close to half of what you made. Tipping is a kindness, the customer is not your boss. They should not pay your wages it just simplest facts. You have this opinion because you were raised in a world where this was forced as a fact where literally no where else in the world does this. If you feel like you don't make enough money then do something to make more.
"we expect you" and i expect you to go tf back to school, get a degree, and go get a job where you dont have to demand handouts from customers
I went to three universities and have two masters. I've been working as a bartender in a club in the Hamptons because of the pay, I've worked in IT and finance before this. If you don't tip at a high end club in the Hamptons, then go to a different bar. Our location has been popular in New York City for decades and will continue to be popular. If you can afford a 50$ cover charge and 30$ drinks you can afford to tip, if not, go to a cheaper location
@@PatrickMcCarty-o5z if your pay is so good, why do you need a tip?
@@PatrickMcCarty-o5z No, never tip! It is not the customer's duty to pay the server's salary but the employer's. Even more true for fancy places where the staff is better payed. Here in China if you tip the staff will refuse as they will owe you. I am sure you can be as good as Chinese!
@@PatrickMcCarty-o5z That's on you champ, I went to school for Geomatics and am currently a Land surveyor, if you actually have two masters go find a job that doesn't require tipping. Im sure you make plenty as a bartender because of tips, you benefit a ton, I use to be a server and i knew how much bartenders made. Not the customers jobs to tip you if they don't want to, not an issue. Go back to school if your degrees are useless.
Tipping back in Renaissance: "Thank you for your service and have a little extra, help yourself some tea and biscuits."
Tipping now: "What do you mean you won't tip 20 dollars for your 8 dollars coffee already overpriced by 1600%!? That's it, I'm calling the police and cancelling you on social media."
I'm a new wow player, some guy spammed enchants in Stormwind, I wispered and ask for enchant, he sent me list of required materials. I asked what a price? He answered "just a tip". So I've purchased materials on AH, went to him, traded, got enchant... and I gave him 1g. He was mad: "That's it???" I told him that I asked a price, he didn't answered. I had a few gold coins at that moment. Wow is also cursed now...
He got mouths to feed in-game too, you know?!
It's like asmon said, if you want a specific minimum then charge that minimum rather than expecting a customer to read your mind and cover it.
if a low level player asked me for an enchant and tried to give me a 1 gold tip i'd give him back 100 gold. That 1 gold is meaningless to somebody like him, he makes more for every npc he kills. He's just greedy. Ignore him, welcome to azeroth.
You're not afraid of a "disapproval", you just don't want to get something bad in your food, especially you visit a place regularly. I hate that this problem is pushed on workers and clients, the normal people, instead of businesses and the government.
That's not excusable. It's borderline a criminal offense to tamper with something someone is expected to ingest.
@@JoesGuy All that you say is valid. I'm just looking at it from my own perspective.
If I lived in the US, if I decide to stop tipping, people are just gonna hate me. Do I want to eat in a place, where the people that serve me hate me? No. The thing is, you'd never be able to tell or prove, if anything has been done to your food. So I'm not taking chances. Also, I know that otherwise those people might be severly underpaid and they rely on me. It's the problem pushed on us all and trying to fix it "locally" would only lead to conflict between, once again, us, normal people. It needs to be regulated. I hate that there's this weird friction of being forced to do something, that is optional by definition. And that's the way the staff should look at it, an unexpected bonus from a customer that had a very good day, not something that he owns to you. That starts with having the same minimum wage, as the other workers. That last sentence is all that we're really fighting for.
@@illchangelateridk That's how they get you though - Emotional manipulation. It takes many forms.
@@JoesGuy it isn't borderline a criminal offense. It is a felony.
It's a felony no one ever gets convicted of even when it was cops' food getting tampered with.
Holding the food hostage in exchange for more money is a pretty damn barbaric behavior no?
America is weird af, why don't the restaurants just pay these people a proper wage like in Australia? If you do an amazing job you get tips, if not then you still have a livable wage from your boss. It's not the customers responsibility to pay the workers rent, tip should be just a little extra for putting in extra effort not something that determines whether or not they are homeless.
The reality is the good servers and bartenders don't want to trade a "fair wage" for losing tips. Where my wife works their bartenders can easily make $50/hr off tips and their drink menu is incredibly basic. It's all about volume, not crafting something. They had discussed upping their hourly wage and disabling the tipping feature and every one of them said they'd quit. It's the people who give lousy service and then wonder where their 20% tip is that cry about living wages and unfair pay.
@@HunterTN yeah but that's not fair to the customers. The workers are greedy so of course they will quit and keep bullying good moral, prudent and hard working customers for their hard earned money. Imo they should get paid a livable wage but still allow tips.
It happened because of the "Great Depression", read up on that, interesting stuff to know about.
Because the PEOPLE (see: young women) refuse to let it go. They make way more money with tips and greed overrides their sense of fairness.
because corporate greed and worthless cops/military.
I was a waiter in australia, we had a really good wage (about 25 an hour) and the food was way cheaper than in the us (compared to Utah and LA).
we didn’t have compulsory gratuity and I still got good tips.
you get paid for the service you provide, and you have to do a good job either way.
As a delivery driver I can tell you I’ve informed people who ask me :how much is the tip;that zero is required. I tell them you tip if you want too and how much you want too. We accept low pay and wear and tear on our cars for the tip but you also accept that some may not tip.if any restaurant or service provider tells 20% or 30% mandatory tip I would flat out not pay it either.that’s rude to demand a tip. It also revokes its qualification as a tip and is now a fee.
So because you're struggling to make a living, tipping is right?
@@TwintailsVtuber they did not say anything of the sort, they just explained that as a delivery driver they do NOT except to be tipped but if they can and want to that would be nice and if company makes it mandatory it is not tip but a fee.
I personally think tipping should NEVER be asked or mentioned but if a person wishes to leave a tip they are welcome to.
@@clawso55 "they"?? Who are you calling in plural? Its either a dude or a girl, going with "he" will be most likely correct here and even if its a girl, she wont mind since they are used to most people here being dudes lol So stop that plural calling which makes no grammatical sense here
@@-Timur1214 i dont care to check if they are a girl or a boy so i just call them "they", sorry if that is not correct as english is not my first language
@@-Timur1214 "they" has always been used to describe more than one person, or not wanting to say guy or girl because they is faster , it has nothing to do with gender pronouns, jesus.
used to wait table way back, never went home with less than a $100 in cash after 8 hours on a bad day. the general perspective on waiter pay is much much lower than reality. in fact, owners finally realized this and started dipping their hands into the tip jar so to speak. And that's why you see so much corpo tipping changes lately, like the push for cashless tipping. hard for them to steal from cash tips, but electronic they easily can. also the reason you see so many "service fees" for no reason now.
My 2nd job was working in a restaurant, and all the tips were mandatory to be pooled, and would be divided back out, but with as scummy as the management was I guarantee they were taking a lot of it off the top for themselves.
You’re talking about not compelling people to tip, but then say it should be built into the price… therefore compelling people to hand over their money for something that should cost less. At least with tipping, it’s optional despite societal pressure. Building the tip into the price is basically a mandatory gratuity which led you to steal silverware lol. Makes no sense. Walsh is 100% correct saying that a tip should be based on exemplary service.
So restaurants expect you to pay their servers and the servers are angry at customers instead of the boss for not paying them enough. Instead of telling us not to go into your establishments, how about you find a better job?
Every service job does this. I agree that the employer should pay a higher wage, but they won't. So by not tipping the only person you are hurting is the person who is handling your food, which might not be the best idea if you don't want your food fucked with
@@chrissears5482 Getting caught fucking with food is almost always very damning for the business. It's not up to the customer to make the employees follow the standards of the industry. Nor pay them any more than what goods they have purchased. So you aren't hurting anyone, at all. Only the US has this warped of a mindset.
You do realize that you're paying the salary one way or the other.
The "owner" will just pass on the extra money to the customer, and your prices will go up.
And guess what happens if they do decide to pay their workers a better wage? The cost of everything in the restaurant goes up by more than what you would of been tipping before and now it costs more to you than tipping would of
Tipping is stupid. Most the time I go out to eat. I get super mediocre at best employee that will hardly ever come by. But when I do get a great waiter/waitress I will happily tip them heavily for going above and beyond. I'm not tipping you for being a bad employee.
Exactly. Outstanding service is not that frequent. Big tips should be reserved for great service.
At least in Australia, wages in restaurants are decent, that if you get a tip, its just icing on the cake, its not required. Never understood the stupidity of the USA with this
Family used own a restaurant in Australia. Staff was paid well (even better during big seasons or during events and whatnot. often they WANTED to work during holidays because of the pay) and tips were extra that made the staff happy and more likely to do a good job. Our service was pretty damn good so there were often tips.
Americans don't understand that if they don't tip the establishment has to pay the workers equal to non tip minimum wage.
With tips many restaurant workers actually make MORE than the starting wage for some starting college degrees. It makes no sense especially in states where the minimum wage has doubled, restaurant prices have doubled, and the servers want their tips to inflate as will. Take your $15/hr, it's how much that pharmacy tech is getting.
Some states here only have to pay their staff $2-$3/hr if the tips they make are enough to meet the state minimum wage. Chain restaurants will set their headquarters in these states since they get to operate nationwide by the employment law of the state they are headquartered in. Gives big chain companies incentive to really keep tipping prevalent
@joewerner7067 that's not how that works. Employment law applies according to the state that the wage/salary is earned in. It doesn't matter where you HQ your chain or holding company you're paying CA min wage at all your CA restaurants. The only thing that changes is your corporate tax liability.
Counterpoint on the "you are afraid of disapproval": actually, I am afraid of the person behind the counter seeing I tipped zero, and then spitting in my food. Forcing a tip before your food is prepared is hostage taking because they could do whatever they want in prepping it, and it's easier to hit the 10% button than to risk getting myself and my family sick when I just wanted a coffee. I hate it to death but I cant always risk it.
gotta have some stones. You gotta make the decision. You work hard for your money no? You work long days and someone else decides you're OBLIGATED to give them YOUR money for...? just because they expect it? I always be straight up. If the service is amazing I super tip usually a 20. I love good servers that make you feel at home. "What can I get started for you sweetie?" I'll put a 20 bill on the table right away. But if you're a subway worker asking for a tip I will literally ask them. "How much do you make an hour?" "Why are you asking me that?" "You're asking me to pay you I'm just curious why."
"we expect you", keep expecting blud