The American Tipping Crisis | Asmongold Reacts
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It's impressive how the owners have managed to pit the workers vs the customers and avoid all responsibility. And many workers are even in favor of their wage gacha.
The problem here is the disparity. The good looking people and bartenders naturally get more tips than they'd get from having a stable wage. A good looking bartender can pull in over $1000 dollars in my area from one night during the Thur-Sun period. So you have these people who can basically work 2-4 nights a week pulling in buckets of cash and on the other end of the spectrum you have people struggling to even break even at the minimum wage breakpoint. A lot of servers dont report cash tips either, so there is this weird ecology where servers are making more and in some cases ALOT more than minimum wage and owners don't have to pay them as much. The customers arent obligated to tip though so basically they're teaming up to bully the American public into tipping more.
Of course the workers are in favor, you make more in a tipped position than you would in a hourly position. Are you aware that our federal minimum wage is 7.25? Lol.
@vagabondwastrel2361 It's both Congress and Buisness Owners. Minimum wage should be higher. Cooks and servers should be paid their worth below $20/hr in America is chump change that barely pays the bills, and feeds the family at the same time.
Same culture in the grocery store. Employees complain about customers customers complain about employees, meanwhile Kroger is reporting record sales and slashing employee benefits.
ofc they are, cause usually they getting more $ from this interaction then if they got payed by company.
Let's never forget the guy from kitchen nightmares who forced all his waitresses to give him 100% of their tips because it was "his" earnings, not theirs.
yes exactly that disgusting .... We should use his face in video games for all kinds of low level villains.
It is his profit. He was paying them. Tipping is BS.
@@TheExaltedCasual We found the edgelord!
@@ExActa yeah lol.
@@TheExaltedCasual Hey no hard feelings we've all been there in some capacity. Hope some positivity comes your way soon.
Tips are just how companies can get away with paying their employees less and make the customers pay them instead when buying their products/services.
Shane Buchman in Us they sure know how to Maximize profits.
this is exactly true. doordash does this all the time and the drivers go after customers and have no problem with the company making all kinds of money off their work
The survivorship bias also applies to the "attractive young person" as a service worker.
The attractive person who gets better tips stays in the job and prefers the system. The "ugly" or uncharismatic person who gets no tips ends up leaving the job so they are not part of the statistics. All the servers who survive in the job then prefer the system because they make out well.
Very well said
i agree i made 364$ the other day in a 7 hour shift lol
Only in the US people get triggered for not getting a tip. It's ridiculous that you're expecting a 10, 15 or 20% tip out of every customer.
In Europe, most of it at least, we tip if we like the service and as appreciation after a big meal. And people tip whatever. 1$, 5$, 10$, and In my 34 years I've never seen a waitress or anyone upset about it being a 1$/€ tip. Most of the time we don't tip at all and the service is always as good.
If you're underpaid you should bring that to your boss and not your customers.
People expect it because if they don't get those tips, they can't afford rent. Be mad at the businesses not the employees
@@tylerharvey1707 I used to work at a nursing home taking care of elderly people with dementia for minimum wage when I was younger. Think I got tips? Think that job is easy? Get the hell out of here with that nonsense you're speaking. Lots of people are struggling, not just servers.
@@tylerharvey1707 boohooo. Plenty of people in jobs that don't get tips and struggle to pay their rent. Not my problem folks choose to do a job that requires peer pressure rather than demand their boss pay them a living wage.
@@baconbankai if someone wanted me to pay for their service before ive seen their service, I'd walk out and go grab food elsewhere. Screw that insanity
It's not ridiculous at all and fairly easy to receive more than 20% from every customer.
I dated a waitress, going out to eat with her was eye opening on multiple occasions. Apparently as soon as these service people see you and how many in the group, they're already calculating roughly how much they SHOULD make off that table. Especially as things go on and people start ordering, asking for refills, I hate to say it but it seemed to me like they felt if they did their job, the default tip should be 25%. They also get PISSED when they see numbers lower than what they determined it should be themselves.
To me I thought 25% was supposed to be the best service possible but many seem to think if they didn't drop your food in your lap and insult your wife to where she's crying in the bathroom, they deserve 25%.
man it feels good living in a country where you aren't expected to tip for people just doing their jobs
Please don’t remind me I live here… I’m in enough pain as it is.
Gigachad
im in a 3rd world country it's all good we rap*ng eachother and shit, tip is not a problem here thank god
benefit of the UK
@@hzenesWtf?
as a non american I do not understand the need for tips, here in the Czech republic, nobody is dependant on tips so we dont really tip in percentage, we usually round the sum up, but we are never pressured into tipping
It's a way for businesses to outsource some of the enterpreneurship risk onto the employee. Essentially it is a symptom of a weak government not able to protect its citizens from being exploited.
I bought a coffee the other day. The girl behind the counter just pointed at the kiosk. I had to select what drink I wanted, the flavors, the extra shot, scan my debt card, and complete the transaction myself. The prompt all but insisted I give a 20+ percent tip. Nope!
If that person is making your coffee, I think they deserve a tip. Just my opinion. But when I come in for a coffee, I want the people to remember me and make my coffee nice and sexy lol.
@@ugk26 isn't it literally their job to make coffee?
@@CL-jq1xs Oh absolutely, but my father always took care of people that offered a personalized service. Hair dresser, mechanic, barista. I don’t have to tip them anything, but when I do, it helps that person and ultimately helps me too. Trust me, when you give good tips, you’re greeted in a much more friendly way and people tend to take more care when doing their job. That’s worth the tip to me. It may not be to some people, so I get it.
On the flip side, if I’m ordering food and I come to pick it up, I’m not tipping the counter person. If I knew the tip went to the cooks, then I’d tip. I have my limits as well, I’m fatigued by all the POS systems always asking for a tip. But I still tip some people no matter what, I’m Greek, what can I say, I like tossing money in the air lol. (We literally do that at weddings I’m not just being an asshole lol) cheers!
@@psychotimo Well here’s what I do…I don’t just walk into a business day 1 and tip before I know what’s going to happen. I went to the coffee shop a couple times. They did a great job so I felt comfortable giving a good tip at that point. So then next 3 times I came in they were very gracious and said, hey we can melt that sugar into the coffee as we make it. That was very nice and I wouldn’t have even known to ask for that. I don’t drink coffee often.
So I agree with you, I think tipping before you know how the service will be is almost insulting. I hate it. I wasn’t trying to dismiss the original comment, I just wanted to offer my take. I remember I got my beard and haircut in Vegas by this guy Christian. Did a great job, gave him a great tip. 2 months later I go back, he remembered me because of that tip. For me, I want the guy trimming me up to take his time and not rush me out of the chair so he can get one more client in. My tip covers that, so he takes his time. I want that, not everyone cares. So do as you wish, cheers!
@@ugk26 u tip the coffee person because u interact with them u dont tip the cooks because u dont interact with them. Interesting
Went to an ice cram shop yesterday, took a cake from the freezer, when I was presented with tipping I hit that no thanks so hard my hand bled 😂 , when my girl asked why I didn’t leave a tip I said a tip for what we came here got a cake from the fridge come on now , they didn’t walk the cake to my car or delivered it 🤷🏾♂️
This is such a US topic........ here in The Netherlands, and i think in most of Europe,
If i give a tip, the service was very good and personal, not because it is needed.
a big problem is in the us we have a really big culture AGAINST increasing wages in any capacity. 80% of americans are against increasing the wages because theyre uneducated republicans
Has an HVAC tech I do get tips from time to time, anywhere from $10-$100. Never once was I tipped because my customer thought I needed the tip, they tipped me for my excellent service and information I leave them with. The problem always comes in when tips are required and not simply appreciation for hard or good work.
I also tip my barber %100 just because his excellence service. He's never once expected it or asked. I don't always tip him that amount either. Sometimes less sometimes like around Christmas ill toss him a bill. I'll tell you what though I've never had to wait in line for his chair.
We also ordered delivery once during the height of COVID when no contact was a thing, we put a tip in advanced on the system so they'd just leave the food, the guy stared at me through the door holding my food instead of putting it down and walking away for no contact, once I took the food he kept standing there acting like I was supposed to give him yet another tip, I had to tell him thanks you can go now, he started to try and argue and I cut him off and told him to get off my porch and go.
Like I don't know if his place of business was absorbing their drivers tips and not telling them or what, but you're not about to make me tip twice for a restaurant order, like I feel for them having crappy paying jobs but I start to feel a little less when stuff like that happens.
I'll always stay at the door at a delivery, but only because I don't like leaving the food at the door and worry about it being missed by the customer
@@nef36 Don’t do that, please. Unless someone specifies in the instructions. Most people that I know that put to leave food things by the door outside just want the delivery people to leave so they can grab their food. I hate when people wait because it’s awkward and there’s no other reason to wait. I’ve already tipped. I’m not worried about my food being stolen otherwise I wouldn’t ask for it to be left at the table beside my door. Just ring the bell/knock, set the stuff down, and go. It’ll be appreciated a lot more.
You should never be expected to tip for food delivery unless you made some extra demands that hindered the workflow of the delivery person.
@@mochabearry The reason we wait is because we have no idea if your doorbell works or if your herd us knock if you don't come to the door. Often people call and claim we never knocked or rang the bell and there order sits on there porch for too long. I call if you don't come out because i want to avoid coming back for a refund order for no tip if you complain I never knocked or rang the bell and your food sat on your porch too long. Even for cash orders people constantly don't come to the door and I have to call them because they are in their basement or have headphones on.
@@mochabearryyes an if the food gets stolen it not on them. Person knows there are a lol
Really important detail a lot of people don't actually know exists, is that the 2.35 or whatever is only applicable if they get tips. The employer needs to pick up the slack if somebody gets 0 tips.
"If an employee doesn't make enough in tips during a given workweek to earn at least the applicable minimum wage for each hour worked, the employer has to pay the difference."
Here in Canada its possibly even stupider because waiters DO make like $15/hour. Yet the stigma of not tipping is still prevalent.
@@Hondewberrytips for cabbies and hair stylists make sense to me. Servers? Nah, if anything I want to tip the cook, all you did was bring the plate. You could train a chimp to do that. Heck, I’ll save the tip money and come get the plate from the kitchen myself if you want. I bet I’d bring myself the right soda 100/100 too.
Most tipped workers in the states make a good wage + tips too
@@Hondewberrya tip for not killing me is what mafia does, just saying
And yet we needlessly take on the tipping culture of America
Even here in Oregon, state minimum wage is $13.50 ($14.20 starting in July) in rural counties; $14.75 ($15.45 in July) in the Portland Metro counties. And tipping is still expected.
the sad thing about tipping is that if you look young, waitresses assume you don't have enough money to tip so they give you low priority service. (also happens if you're a regular and don't tip, they remember you as that person that doesnt tip and don't focus on giving you good service)
Then complain to the manager and the bitch fired if it continues. That's what I do. Do your job or get replaced by someone who will
Pro tip: if you tip someone, use cash, not the electronic way. They'll take a cut from the tip. Unless they already take the whole tip as a restaurant.
Bro its 2023, who has cash?
@@Jasper-Holland me
Pro tip: Don't give tips, give gifts of money. Gifts are not as taxable.
US just just stupid for spawning this kind of pro tip
@@saynotop2w Counter-tip: Encourage all sorts of tax avoidance. Taxation is theft.
Yeah, i remember when you paid for good service. Today you are expected to pay for everything if the service was bad or not, if there is even service or not.
I got tired of the absurd fees, and up front expected tips from those delivery apps. I stopped using DoorDash, and SkiptheDishes entirely, and either cook from home, or just go get the take out myself. I'm easily saving $10-20 a meal now when I do the take-out myself. It's insane...
Not when you add up your time and gas but what ever makes you feel good
Btw you can ask some shops if they have their own delivery service for example a small shop near me encourages customers to call their number instead of using the apps as it is better for both the shop as they get more money since delivery apps take a huge cut and also cheaper for the customer because you don't have to pay the ridiculous delivery fee and the increased prince of items on the apps
Same. I stopped paying for delivery a few years ago when I noticed a pizza order has a delivery fee, and then I had to tip on top of that. And I might have to wait for an extra 45 minutes if the driver had to make 4 stops before me.
The 10-minute round trip is more than worth not having to pay the extra fees.
@@nathanielsmith600This guy delivers food for a living
So this might be slightly long but I wanna provide perspective from a 4+year Gig delivery driver.
1. The apps are not up front with the amount you are tipping us and are very deceptive. (It's almost always been this way.)
2. You really aren't "Tipping" the driver per say. You are more bidding for a drivers time. Which includes: Gas, Time, Vehicle wear and tear, waiting time, travel time to the restaurant and your home.
3. Yes the drivers don't have to accept your order, the companies almost all pay a very small delivery fee which is like $2-$3. depending on the type of order it is. So without a tip the driver is looking at $2-$3 for the amount they are being payed to bring you your order.
4. Most of the time customers don't leave good directions, no porch light on, their apartments or homes are very difficult to locate. No gate codes. Never at the door to receive their orders when they want them handed to them. Also these same people will report their food missing and put your access in jeopardy for not catering to their every need when they don't tip at all. (I've always said if you don't tip you shouldn't be allowed to rate and report drivers. Just my personal opinion.)
I will say this again like I did the last time. You guys are basically asking the companies to force you to pay more to compensate the driver instead of just tipping them a fair amount to get your order. So basically what you are saying is you want them to charge you another $5 - $10 to pay for the drivers time and repair costs.
Delivery is not a service for everyone. It has and always will be a luxury service. This is the reason alot of companies don't offer delivery services. It's not a cheap thing to operate.
Here in Australia, we don't tip, usually. Minimum wages for an adult is currently at USD$14.46/hour, with casual workers getting a 25% loading, set by an independent tribunal. If you're casual, weekend work attracts 1.5x/hour and Public holiday work at 2x/hour. Employees can't choose to be paid less.
Also, businesses must display a total price that includes taxes, duties and all unavoidable or pre-selected extra fees. Any surcharges must be clearly displayed.
Saying that we can't stop tipping or prices will go up is almost the same argument as saying we cant stop slavery or we will have to start charging more for cotton.
My Dad works by himself as an electrician/plumber and people give him tips all the time. I guess it's more personal since someone is coming into your house. He's gotten beers, candy, ethnic foods, money, soda, a walking dead comic, all kinds of things.
Ngl the comic threw me off 😂
I do IT home service and one customer gave me one bottle od wine from their own vineyard.
It was the best wine I ever had.
I used to do in home appliance installs (fridges, gas stoves, etc) and getting ethnic food was by far the best type of tip
my friend teaches in the rural area for the minority, and they give him foods all the time, wild animals meat, bag of rice, banana, potato. He said he barely need to go out and buy foods.
As someone who's also self employed, this has happened to me so many times... tips, alcohol, illicit substances, home-made sausages, tools, clothing. Really is a world of it's own
I don't see soldiers in the military being tipped. they go through the worst conditions.
Military discounts
I agree 100% with Asmongold. I will tip what I want, and will not be guilted into tipping a single cent more.
when people tip, it's not always because of societal guilt, but rather fear that their order will be fucked up
@𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐑𝐞𝐝𝐑𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐧 you don't know what TF "hypocritical" means lmao. Yes RUclips is garbage though.
@@TheRedRaven_ 1. That’s not hypocrisy. 2. He doesn’t run the channel.
@@TheRedRaven_ how is that hypocritical though? he's not forcing you to watch the ads, use adblock all you want man. he's just saying don't get peer pressured into tipping. similarly, if you don't wanna watch the ads (not tip), then don't, put adblock on it or something
So I'll speak as someone who did Doordash for a few months. If you don't give a decent tip, most people won't take your order. Doordash pays them between 2-5 dollars to make a delivery based on the time. Doordash drivers also aren't employees of doordash they're independent contractors, so they are not obligated to deliver your food. The fact is if doordash is paying 1 dollar and you don't tip, they're delivering your food for roughly 40-60 cents, and no one is going to work for that wage.
I say that because you don't have to tip, but delivery drivers also don't have to deliver your food, you pay 1 the business for the food, 2 a convenience fee to the deliver app, and 3 a service fee to the driver via the tip.
I've been a server/bartender for 12+ years.
If you're a tipped wage employee, and people not tipping you is causing you to not pay your bills, you are in the wrong restaurant, or the wrong industry.
Thanks captain obvious
@@Thee-_-Outlier My comment is for all the people complaining about shitty tippers. I get them a lot, but they don't have an impact on my overall monthly income. Because I'm in a restaurant that isn't gross, and I don't suck at my job. That's all I'm saying.
@@zebwilliams8945 same im a college student and i think being a server is the best job u can have while in school i make way more than any other job i could get. besides half these people complaing about tipping never worked in the service industry anyways. the amount of dumb people and assholes u deal with it is always fun
@@Thee-_-Outlierwow you added so much to the conversation. Just like you add to life.
Ryan George said it best "'We want you to judge the performance of another human being, and then do a little math.' 'Neither of those things I want to do!'"
Some restaurants, like Olive Garden, require you to give a portion of your tips to the bussers and the bartender. The amount you have to give them is calculated based on the $ amount of the ticket for that table (not the actual tip they left) and it is automatically pulled out of your overall tips for the night. In the event that a table does not tip you anything at all you still have to give that portion of the "tip" (% of the check) to your busser/bartender meaning you actually LOSE money when someone doesn't tip you. This is a common thing in a lot of restaurants where your tips are shared between other members of the staff. I served tables for 3 years and i'm glad i'm out of it, one night you could work 6 hours and make $100, the next night you could work 6 hours and make $20.
I have a simple rule: if I'm on a business trip I will tip generously since a) the company pays for it and B) I'm supporting the local community. If on a personal bill I will consider much much much more carefully if I a) can afford and B) want it.
As a Dane, i’ve never had to pay anything except for the item/service/food including tax. I’ve never seen or even heard of the 15% service fee
Servers are punished if they don’t bring in tips. Those tips are “shared” by all the staff including managers.
I used to leave cash at the table to keep it from going into the collective until a regular server asked me not to do that because the management will write them up based on “performance”.
Yes it’s a national chain of “sit down dining” that’s one step above McDonalds, because they serve alcohol.
So I've worked in the service industry most of my life. From cheap restaurants to fine dining and the Ritz Carlton. There are people who expect you to tip a certain amount are shitty servers, Personally I didn't mind what you tipped me though on the other hand if you would stiff me I would most definitely remember it next time you came in and not give you the same quality of service I do to all other patrons. Examples would be making sure you had a refill before you needed it, if you dropped silverware I would bring you some before you have to ask me, if you left the table I would fold your napkin and push your chair in, clear the dirty plates from once your finished and such. When I bartended I knew what you wanted to drink if you were a regular or would make you a specialty drink that I think you would like. I would go over the top to earn the 20% many of the times people would tip 35% or higher or if gratuity was already added to the meal people would tip on top of it.
It was not a show of power or wealth like you mentioned before and usually the rich people were the ones who refused to tip Jon Travolta being one of the famous people that would rarely and when he did it was around 15% at the highest. While you do make a point that women especially ones that are attractive make more in tips easier it's not always the case. If you do a crap job you usually don't get a good tip unless you are flirting and doing something else your job does not require.
As for the higher cost of meals if gratuity is added to the meals automatically that is 100% true. The profit of a regular restaurant is low, you make enough to pay your bills and such but than there are times where you're stressing just like any 9-5 employee but more since you have employees relying on you for a job, I know this because my parents ran and eventually owned a restaurant. It consumes your life worrying about making enough to keep everything running. My parents had me and brother and sisters work at the restaurant with them since they couldn't afford to hire help outside of the chefs and dishwashers and maybe a waitress or 2 when things were busy and good. So if they had to pay the servers gratuity they would of had to go without or change the prices of the meals to cover the cost of keeping them. The Ritz Carlton and other fine dining places I worked at had gratuity automatically added hence why their burgers were $20 a piece and the prices soared from there. I made the most money (even now I think of going back as I made more working part time than my current fulltime IT job) there since people still tipped even though I had to tell them that gratuity was already included and that tipping is not necessary.
The only thing I agree tipping shouldn't be included is to go orders where you pick it up. If they are delivering it give the people some gas money it doesn't have to be outrageous and if you dislike having to tip pick up the food yourself or go to places where gratuity is already included. Tipping is meant to show gratitude for the service that the server has provided if they do a bad job give them a either a low tip or no tip depending how bad they did.
Also for making it mandatory to up the wages I personally never wanted that serving if it meant I couldn't have tips. I've had it where they pooled gratuity at the OMNi to give everyone the same hourly pay and both me and my brother would lose half our check since it was pooled gratuity. They did this so that the people who were always in the slow section could have a "living wage" but it just screwed the people who were always stuck in the busiest section but thats besides the point. I think most people should work 1 year in the service industry so you can see the side of it from the servers. I paid my way through college because of it with no school debt and honestly I met a lot of cool people and made many connects for the field I work in now. I can't say every restaurant was the best but you can always quit that job and go somewhere else if the cliental slow or doesn't tip. I did this at a chilis where the average good tip was 15% I had to work three times as hard than any other job to make ends meet but it worked for my school schedule at the time and I quit for the Ritz once I finished that year.
i find it crazy people look down on other for not being able to tip. especially if the service wasnt good.
I hate the “if you can’t afford to tip, don’t go out to eat” thing. $20 for a meal might be within my budget, easily, but having to spend an extra $4 every time can make a huge difference.
The same people would complain if their landlord suddenly demanded a 20% tip on the rent. If you can’t afford $3600 for a $3000 rent, don’t live there!
TIpping is supposed to be for good service. If a worker gives sub-par service, you get little or no tip. That's how that's supposed to go. If your drinks are constantly refilled, if the meals come out quickly and the orders are correct, then you give a good tip.
So many restaurants today take your order at a counter and then expect to be tipped!
Where's the service? What did you do to deserve a tip? Nothing.
@@potato6785 you can't act like it's not true though, if you don't have a few bucks available at all times (not necessarily for a tip just in general) then you shouldn't be eating out... but to each their own
@@potato6785 To me, a bartender, your take is the same as saying "Well I can afford the 200 dollars for the wood, but I shouldnt have to pay the construction worker to actually build my new deck".
Who the fuck do customers think service industry workers are working for? We're not serving our boss, we're serving YOU. When we close, and im cleaning up after the mess you all made, im working for my boss. When im laughing at your stupid banter, getting you what you want, making you drinks, and calling you an Uber, im working for YOU.
Fuck you pay me.
Here in Oregon, waiters/waitresses are paid minimum wage but tipping is still accepted and i only tip if service is ok to exceptional. A lot of waiters/waitresses aren’t motivated to get that tip because of the minimum wage, if they want it they’ll get it. There’s a soft serve store and super cuts we go to on a bi-weekly to every month at least once and both have tipping options and i select no tip each and every time. The soft serve employees stand behind a counter and scoop ice cream all day and make little children’s day on the daily. Super cuts haircuts for me and my 2 boys $60, no im not tipping on dropping that much to cut hair and my woman dont wanna save in the first place and i like short hair, so im gettin a haircut.
I can’t wrap up my head around how waiters in the US can be paid $2.13/hour. That is absolutely wild
They are paid minumum wage if they don't make that with tips. So they always make minimum wage or better.
@@xd-qo1nu still that's fkd up
@@Dean_Bradley yet not single one wants to get rid of it? Is it because they make much more with tipping?
@@mramisuzuki6962 yes, doesn't seem very consumer friendly
@@Dean_Bradley customer is always right. Stop tipping.
Bro the dutch dont have any problems with not tipping so seeing this video is the funniest shit ever
Here in Europe tip is somethig extra that you give only if you are happy with the service. For instance in restaurant if the staff is nice, fast and the food is good you give a tip. Usually cash.
I've worked in many restaurants, I've supported my family off tips. My opinions are 1) I personally tip based on service received. If my wait person is rude or slow to refill drinks and get things we need, or doesn't listen and can't keep up, they get less, much less. And as for to-go service, you get no tip, unless I am feeling really generous and you have made sure I have all I need to eat my meal, like plastic ware, salt and pepper, napkins, condiments.
2) If you don't like working for $3.00 an hour and earning tips, go get another job. Period. Point blank. I did.
This is 100% logical. You shouldn't have to put up with employers refusing to pay you a living wage.
Never even heard of tipping issues outside of the US. Tipping literally is something entirely optional and something most workers don't even care about if you don't tip. If you tip for exceptional service or a good experience, you feel good tipping, they feel good receiving the tip. Why the fuck the US functions heavily around tips blows my mind.
Here is the other problem with this. Ever since Covid hit and killed a bunch of restaurants, I have noticed the quality of eating out has gone down but the prices have gone up. It has come to the point where I lost a reason to eat out. Some places would just be time savers like getting food at your local Chinese restaurant but now I just rather make it myself since I can add and tweak the food AND save money. Yes, I know cooking for yourself was always a benefit but it used to cost more to do it yourself. Now the inverse has come where its cheaper to do it yourself to get a better experience. A good burger and fries used to be sub $8 at this one place near me. With a drink and tip youd get out at lunch for $15, now its $15 for the burger alone.
There have been many restaurants that have tried to eliminate tipping and paying their staff more. Usually after a year the quit doing this. The main reason is the best servers make more money with the tips so moved to another restaurant.
this is true where i work at a lot of our checks can range from 1200 to 3k just depends of hours and luck ofc
I tip 20% at restaurants and delivery only. I'm not tipping you at your hourly counter job.
At this point it feels more like forced charity than a way of expressing gratitude for exceptional service.
I tip people who rely on the tips like my server at most restaurants, barber, etc... because I know the individual person needs it.
Ideally, the restaurants just charge the necessary amount of money to pay their employees properly and tipping can go back to being a friendly bonus.
There is NO 15% service bill in Denmark!
It seems like a good way to get people to just not use a service (restaurant, barber etc), if tipping becomes a burden socially and financially.
Remember when it used to be just a kindly "Keep the change"? It's crazy to me now that tipping has to be done before the service is even rendered in a lot of cases now, that it's expected every time, that delivery orders are delayed/denied/messed with due to too small of a tip.
I've personally been told by 2 waiters (well a waiter and a waitress) not to tip them unless using cash because they aren't receiving the tips from their employer. A lot of places have been adding an 18% "gratuity" to the bill automatically then having a line for tip. They think people are stupid and don't know that gratuity IS tip. I always subtract the 18% from my bill and leave no tip on the bill. I will leave cash on the table
I think that's illegal for employers to withhold tips like that, it should probably be reported to state authorities.
Also pay the cash so they don't have to report there tips to IRS lol
French person here, keep in mind that those 15% are comprised in the final bill to the same extent taxes are: it does not go DIRECTLY in my pocket as a worker. BUT at the same time we are getting paid full wages that compare to the rest of the population, which means that every and any tip I get is what it is supposed to be: a bonus. To give a rough estimate, I would get around 1.8k monthly, plus tips. On good months that would mean 2k, everything combined. In dollars, that would mean that I'm generally getting paid around 2.2k$ monthly
Don't forget tips also getting taxed again so the worker gets even less. Traveling overseas not tipping felt weird, wish there was a bigger push for the service industry to receive better wages.
I was a bartender for 9 years. I can guarantee you that most restaurant/club/bar employees do not declare their cash tips. That being said, the last time I worked in a bar was 2010, so I do understand that more and more people do not carry cash on them and probably pay by credit card/Apple Pay, etc. That would obviously have to be declared as taxable income.
Everyone all over the world has been allaying that pressure and all the US workers within the industry have been the ones to come out in defense of tipping - and against a higher wage 😂. Insanity.
in germany tipping in restaurants is always a free choice (without any percentages). its also very common to have a small fineprint on the menu that states that the Service and Tip is already included in the prices. sure you have to mention that in germany a waiters/waitress job is not dependand on Tipps as the biggest part of the Wage.
I work at a liquor store where we deliver orders and the owners take the driver’s tips so that they are “able to pay $18.00 in the first place.” No compensation for gas plus someone without insurance actually crashed into my driver’s side door while I was delivering… Lol all this is starting to ain’t be worth it.
contact a labor lawyer that is likely illegal unless youre in a backwards flyover state
My mom worked as a carhop for Sonic and many months we did the math and she made more than my dad who was a construction foreman and was with the company over 15 years back around in 2007 and been doing construction since he was around 8 years old. He read blueprints and ran crews of 100+ people on schools/Walgreens and other commercial buildings. Many tip workers make far more than other workers. She worked at around 6-8 different Sonics in different towns and often made $15 an hour in just tips and most people if they made $70 in a 6-hour shift would write down they got like $8 in tips. The argument that they need the tips to survive may be sort of true, but I think many tip workers treat the money as less valuable than their small checks because it's a tip rather than their wages and they are more likely to bring home expensive out to eat home and waste a lot of their tip money. I've seen this firsthand with her and several tip workers I know. My cousin worked at Outback Steakhouse when he was younger and another person I knew worked at Dominos and they made literally double+ minimum wage here often making more than lower paid skilled jobs like construction railroad workers where I used to live and other way harder on the body jobs. Even my cousin only made around $2.50 an hour but made well over I believe it was $6.50 an hour minimum wage back then. And if you don't make minimum wage here the company will pay you to where you do make minimum wage but that literally never happens really. My mom made more than managers at sonic besides the general managers and made more than the cooks and register people by a long shot. She didn't ever want to become a manager either because all of them besides the GM made less.
You only tip if you want too. And you only tip when they do a great job.
Yeah my dad has always taught us and maintained, that you lose the feeling for how much you spend if you don't spend with cash - he even extends that logic to cars.
Waiters and barbers get tips, everyone else gets disappointment.
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We once drank a coffee with 3-4 guys at a Cafe in a crowed tourist spot, the waitress was extremly unfriendly, coffee took a long time and we were more or less told, that if we dont want to eat, we should hurry up cause they need free tables. When we got the bill, she very persistently pointed to the "suggested tip" right under the amount we had to pay (20%). We literally paid to the penny and only in small coins before we left. It was really hillarious, but afterwards we were told, that this only happens in tourist spots, and in normal restaurants, there is just a small service fee and tip is about 5%-10%, if everything is fine.
Tipping thing at subway is reason I don't go to subway, they turn a 5 dollar sub into a 18 dollar sub just not worth that much money. I don't think any fast food needs to be tipped because it's fast food and not quality food or service all they did was make a sandwich they didn't wait on me and have to deal with my bullshit for ten or more minutes. Also stopped ordering pizza because they just add 8 dollars to the price regardless and then say it's not for the driver and I'm like your pizza isn't for me then LOL Honestly that saved me from getting fat I think lol
For real, got a sub the other day and it was $16 for just the footlong and a tip
I can count with one hand the number of times I genuinely want to tip for good service.
Imagine living in a country with tipping culture.
Me a french guy , whaching a video of an american problem, by a amrican guy that i discovered resetly. Internet is truly wonderful
Haircuts used to cost around $16 for me, I would always give a 20 and let the barber keep the change. They've since raised their prices to $22 and I don't tip anymore. They priced themselves out of it
You arent hurting the business just the person who cut your hair. The business already got your money.
@@BB-ce5ev dont let the owners trick u
@@MRkriegs you aren't getting it are you? If you keep going out to eat at their restaurant but refuse the tips. The owners don't care they are laughing to the bank. If you really want to end tip culture stop eating out. Which ironically coincides with the "if you cant afford to tip dont eat out" crowd.
@@BB-ce5ev "oh no, I'm not getting anymore customers. It must be because my payment kiosk asks for tips" 😂😂😂
@@MRkriegs like the saying goes you can make a horse go to water but you cant make it not be stupid.
As a french guy this whole tipping deal in other places than restaurants is so wild to me. And even then it doesnt reach the 25 % mark since it is supposed to be a nice gesture to show you are thankfull, not something expected of you
the fact that it's a percentage is quite laughable. so I order a $600 bottle of wine and you pour one glass and I never see you again. that's $150 at 25% for doing the basic duties of the job and it's not like they are falling hand over fist for you for 8 hours straight.
Tipped workers makes more than most proffesionals in big cities duento cashed wages, and social services that they are able To apply for.
Here in South Korea, tipping is actually discouraged, at least based on my experience after living and working here for almost a year now. Though, as a foreigner here, I tip taxi drivers and my barber if I have a little bit of change. For example, my taxi fare is 5000 won (roughly $5 dollars), I pay 1k-2k won extra especially if I brought a lot of things with me (groceries and such..).
I absolutely agree with Asmon's theory on tipping. It's not about the good service (although it might be for the average customer) but about the clout you get from giving a big tip; if a waitress gets a big tip, odds are that it will become some kind of social media post and that turns into clout.
I'm from the Netherlands and tipping is always optional and not tipping is an acceptable practice. Waiting staff get a decent wage, especially after the varus when all waiting staff got let go or quit themselves, leaving restaurants understaffed, forcing them to pay more to keep the job attractive. It all depends on the service being given, the relation built between customer and personnel. Restaurants that have good food served with a smile and the odd joke and the atmosphere is good, that establishment will get more and bigger tips.
All the companies are like, "They will tip anyway. We can underpay them then."
I tipped my professor in college after the final because he passed me when I should have failed. He kinda looked at me odd but I just left the tip on his desk and said thanks and left.
As a server I tip out 5.5% of my sales every shift, so if im averaging 15% then I actually am making a little more than 9%... combine that with the state I live in, I get heavily taxed on food that I sell. So when someone doesn't tip me even tho the service was great and food was fine... then i'm literally paying for them to go out... The worse is when its big parties, added graduity means I will get taxed MORE on it (per my state) as its seen as involuntary, however I get stiffed most on tables over 200 (or just 10% or less).
And the worse part, the thing that people dont understand until you've been in the industry forever... is the wear and tear on your body. It is a very physically demanding job and somedays can be much harder then others.
I'm glad to hear someone tell me that it's not wrong to not tip, every barber I go to, and every restaurant I walk into always asks for a tip and I feel bad for not doing even when I never go there to begin with, sometimes I caved, but I think now I'm going to do it a lot less.
Tipping should be optional in all places except for workers who literally work for tips. Servers, bartenders and strippers lol. But i understand tipping someone such as a barber or just feeling so well about a product or a service that you feel like you should give them extra.
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I work as a HVAC tech and sometimes i get a tip. Its odd because i worked at McDonalds and would never get a tip. Not only am i going into the customers home but now they give me a tip just for going and resolving the issue? Its just different. Tipping used to be 15% norm for things like wait staff. If they did not so well, you werent getting 15%. Now the minimum tip is 18%. Prices havent dropped any, service hasnt gotten any better, the place isnt exactly cleaner.. maybe restaurants should charge more so they can pay more. Maybe then restaurants wont be packed. Not asking for red robin to charge 50 bucks for a burger. I only see tipping going up more in the future.
if you go to random places a lot, sure but not tipping at a place like starbucks when there is only one near by, you will quickly be the "guy who doesnt tip" and will face the wrath of Dianna whos just clocked in to an 8 hour shift after getting to work late because she was fist fighting her husband.
How about labeling the company as "the company who doesnt pay minimum wage"
It’s not my responsibility to compensate for federal and state oversight.
Here in my country tipping is not mandatory but a custom. If you think people that serve you did a good job most people tend to tip like 10% or something which is okay imo.
The constant rising of tipping percentage has me going back. When i first started working in the early 2000s, a tip was 10 to 15%. 15% for good service.
Now i go some places and the ipad thet hand over has the lowest at 20%. I started tipping at places that had these popping up for a little bit, but now everywhere asks for tips.
I no longer tip higher than 15%. We all have phones, and if you can't do it in your head or estimate, we have clacualtors.
If not wait staff I will no longer tip.
The irony of a multi-millionare sitting on his high horse to tell someone to get a better job, when he got rich giving stupid takes like this really is the peak of not being self aware.
I think half the issue is people not understanding how tipping works in a lot of buisiness models. As someone who has worked in the resturant industy for over a decade, its factored into costing and how money is distributed. In Canada where I know, a tip at a resturant to a server is tracked and then they tip out a precent to the bar and kitchen and that is passed down to employee's. Servers have to tip out and pay a % of sales for each bill so the serever owe's a % (depending on the establishment, 4-7% usually in my exp) in tip out to the other partners involved so as to prevent one person from raking in $ and no one else benefitting for being involved. $100 bill and no tip usually means the server pays the kitchen, lets say 5% of the bill because we did our job and nailed the meal so we deserve 5% of what they could have made = $5.Chances are that table was nice and enjoyed the experience and tipped 20% so the server made $20 extra dollars and only owed the resturant $5. So that over and over through a shift can equal lots of money for one person and be spread through the chain of people involved or actually end up robbing someone of money when you order a $100 bill and tip $0 so they have to pay out of pocked/previous tips to meet the 5% they owe. Just how it works and idk if its good or bad but It's apart of my income.
Man sometimes you tip for delivery because you don't want them to eat or spit in your food
I call it the "Don't Spit in my Food" Tax.
There was a restaurant that had mandatory gratuity tipping. And when I saw that before I ordered, I walked out and never went to that restaurant again.
I love the "tipping" option when i go to pick up a pizza. Like bruh, thats not how it works. I came to pick it up TO AVOID delivery charge and tip. They have it even in the liquor store by my house, like................................... WHAT?!
30:57 This just brings to mind the classic Onion headline " 'No way this tragedy could've been prevented' says legislator from the only country this type of tragedy happens in consistently".
As a Doordash driver, I understand your point. But I can’t accept a ten mile delivery if I don’t know if I’m going to get a tip first. I wouldn’t be able to make money because Doordash only pays $2.25 per delivery.
25%? bro wtf.
I'm Dutch and I'll tip 1% or 1 Euro if the delivery guy was nice and friendly or the waitress, but otherwise a thank you will suffice imho.
Tipping anyone other than delivery or restaurant seems weird to me.
Most of the time, if you pay with cash this whole tipping system disappears.
As someone from the UK the whole tipping thing in USA and canada is wild, example if i get in a taxi and its a good ride and good coversation or he helps me with my luggage then i would "round up" so my £8.80 fair would be round up to £10.00.
As an australian Visiting, there was Rarely ever a no tipping option on the Pad, having to worry about to currency conversion all the time when you sit down at the hotel after a few days you realise you have been getting taken for a ride with literally everything and everywhere you go, In 2010 i remember being amazed by how much you got for such little money like massive pizzas and huge drinks and in 2022 its more expensive and you get less then in australia and thats saying somthing
easy for asmon to say to not do it when he has never left his house in his life, and only goes to places with drive throughs because of anxiety and specifically so he doesn't have to be confronted with a tip
I worked at a restaurant for 6 months as a server and one night i was tipped 300 dollars which was stolen from me by the restaurant management. They said i owed them fees from the credit card tips. I quit the job and never looked back. The restaurant industry is so cruel and i refuse to ever work a tip industry again
Uber eats already charges me 6 to 15$ more for delivery service then asks you to tip, most of the times there’s always something missing with my order and take me over an hour to deliver
i just do not go out to eat anymore because of the extra cost.
I've always tipped the lady that cuts my hair 5 bucks. I don't need a lot of care with a haircut. Just shampoo the loose hair out and I'll throw you some cash. She's even given me a haircut when I was going for an interview and didn't have money to tip her. She just gave me a free one and said good luck.
But the tipping is getting out of control and the stupid charity shakedowns. Every fast food place I go to wants me to round up or donate. When you go to a place for takeout, they turn that square terminal around with 3 giant buttons 18-20-25%. You have to hit like 4 more buttons to say no tip and makes it awkward for both people. I bet this crap would stop if servers asked if the tip was to the house or to me as a server? If its a tip to the server then say its a gift and not taxable. It would be funny to just have a Venmo QR code on you so could get it directly.
Another reason why tipping became prevalent in America was during the Great Depression. Restaurants and such couldn't afford to have a full wait staff at full wages due to how shitty the economy was, so wages with tips came about. Lower the wage but allow for tips to be collected. That way theoretically the wait staff would make a similar amount of money as they would in a normal minimum wage job, and the store owner would still have a wait staff.
I worked as a tipped delivery employee for 8 years (mostly before doordash and such) and even though my wage was lower than regular workers, I ended up with more income than they did just from a few dollar tips here and there on my orders. If businesses had to pay full wages to tipped employees but tips weren't allowed, I can guarantee you that most business would do 1 of 2 things.
1. fire any spare employees and run with a skeleton crew to save money. (now the wage with tips employees have no income, and everyone else is working harder for no gain)
2. raise the costs of everything to account for the increase in cost of wages (now the customer is paying more for their product when it probably would have been cheaper to just tip)
I like the wages with tips system, but only if its not abused. tipped employees shouldn't expect inordinate amounts of money for tips, and businesses shouldn't expect for their employees to work on only tips that may never come. But as with any system, one or both ends become unbalanced and the system in general gets ruined.
They need to pay people more instead of banking on their Customers. For shame.
I've been shamed by wait staff for not tipping on a to go order.... 25% For bagging my food knowing full well the cooks aren't getting paid tips? To hell with that and now we just never go out and cook at home 99% of the time. Not to mention even the 'cheap' restaurants have gotten insanely expensive. Just had a sandwich at Denny's the other day after work because I really didn't want to cook at 4am... $20 for a damn sandwich that wasn't even good... yay it's now $25 for being served a glass of water while I waited on a meh sandwich to be cooked in a microwave. I still went to bed hungry.
i only tip if someone is worth tipping. if someone serves me for 2 mins they deserve nothing. just thier pay.
The problem comes from the people that tip, never tip guys.
If nobody tipped, then nobody would accept working for these sub livable wages.
In the UK you tip If you feel the waiter/waitress has given exceptional service, it is by no means mandatory and definitely isn’t seen as rude not to. Everyone here gets at least the national minimum wage at work (£10.50 ish) no matter the industry, tips are extra.
US minimum wage is $7.50, but more in many states.
Also in most states you'll get paid up to the minimum wage if you didn't earn enough in tips to reach that compensation.
I mean it's still absolutely terrible wages, but they don't actually get paid under minimum wage if they don't make enough tips.
I tip once a blue moon and I tend to avoid restaurants with tipping because it's a hassle to eat somewhere and tipping is also there especially in the best restaurants with good food.
One time I didn't tip a door dasher and they farted in my pizza box. Lesson Learned.
That is vile.
the thing that seems wild to me from the outside is that tipping is done based on a percentage of the bill