@michaelbledsoe8255 same, the workflow in making a beat in maschine is so sick. I went from starting on cubase, and then years later found maschine, and not turned back. I am worried about their direction with latest hardware, literally taking my s49 mk3 back as it doesn't integrate with software like previous. If that's sorted, that keyboard is insane !!
Everything NI communicated about 3.0 indicates that this is a very small upgrade, apart from the stem separation. Given the massive shortcomings in Maschine 2 in the area of the piano roll editing, in the song arrangement and in how it handles Audio “tracks”, it is very disappointing after such a long radio silence. The announcement of a large bunch of multi-sampled instruments (Maschine Central?) seems like a desperate move to keep Maschine+ alive. It’s of course a lot easier and cheaper to produce packs of multi-samples than to develop plug-ins that run on M+. But AKAI seems to have no problem regularly churning out new native (😂) MPC plug-ins and even revamping its entire OS to enable full arrangements. Perhaps AKAI lives on a planet where the pandemic never happened 😂? I absolutely love the Maschine platform but have lost all confidence in NI since they stopped investing in it. The shocking removal of Maschine support from the new keyboards painfully exposed the sad fact that NI no longer sees Maschine as a worthwhile long term platform. What a waste…
Thanks for your feedback. I think stem separation is going to be a highlighted feature. I was recently using an earlier version of Maschine 2 for compare and contrast purposes. I'd have to say, over the years with all of the small updates, Maschine 2 has become a lot better from when they initial release of it. That should have been the significant update. I'm curious if version 3 will be the same way. That removal may have been a business strategy to entice people to use Kontrol mk3 with the newest software of Maschine 3 🤷♂️
@@FizzENT You made a valid point about the development of Maschine 2 - there were 18 dot upgrades over the years. I'll venture to say the same will happen with Maschine 3.0. It may appear to be a small set of upgrade features to start especially after the claims of waiting so long, but I believe they will come. People who are talking about jumping ship to Akai, should just grab a life jacket and get to swimming already.
I hope they add a few plugins for Maschine + to use in standalone mode! Such as solidbus compressor … putting it on the master really helps glue stuff 2gether!
There is a major problem with midi recording. When I record midi and I want to undo the notes ive just recorded in on my mac by pressing option x it starts to do this thing where begins to undo every note at a time rather than the whole section I’ve just recorded.
Maschine is great for ideation. But the MIDI grid editor can definitely do with some improvements. Hardware wise the JAM and Maschine MK3 are perfect for rapid idea creation. I don’t really work with STEMs and samples but instead use the many amazing NKS compatible libraries.
What’s going on, bro? I’m thinking of getting your course, but what is included? I bought the dds course he kind of flew I had to keep rewind it And sara2hill was pretty good. I’m just trying to master maschine 2 so I can slowly move away from Fl. I like how the software and Maschine MK3 are very intuitive with each other
My course focuses on the Maschine software. It is step by step and easy to follow. It's a little over an hour long, but let the time fool you as it is packed with tips, tricks and techniques to understanding how to use Maschine.
I know what you know because I information was sent to me and I keep looking, I think could be more than what they have revealed, so we can wait to see. I know Native Instruments doesn't like to slip behind. I have a mpc but I have stuck with Native Instruments first 💪🏿💪🏿
I love im just so damn mad that they still havent added key features that alot of producers have been asking for YEARS. GIVE ME A LINE TOOL FOR AUTOMATION.... please.... Also, they have to come out with a full daw. Idc what it takes but all i know is if they can do it, it will be the best daw ever made (if done properly of course)NI needs to listen to their customers so they can make something actually magical
It has slowly improved over the years and i'm grateful for that, but yep that automation lol. Not sure if it will ever become full daw since that was never it's intended purpose.
I just got an update today on my kontrol mk3 keyboard with integration for mashine 3.0 so the keyboard is going to be able to control mashine 3.0 software.
Version 3 is not yet available. Typically you will have to purchase one of their hardware units and that comes with the software see link here: bit.ly/2WHJDix
Been with native for years it's used as a beat maker then it's straight to logic to arrange.machine is one of the best out.but thay need to get on point with the update game there in the stone age when it comes to this look how long it took them to upgrade traktor pro.get on point native instruments.
I’m going to be optimistic about Maschine 3.0 they should do well considering how late they are to the party coming with all the “features” that everyone already had for like a year or so now. And please for the love of God allow us to work with MP3 files. Idk who decided that was a good idea for it to not be supported. Smh
I just need the stem separation, sampler in bpm, and just a better midi editing ... i really want to do vocals in maschine and have different takes but it is very difficult
@@NakulKrishna What Pre Release Notes? not sure if you're aware but not all of us get these info filled emails from Ni, not all of us are in their forum, heck I'm in Their Instagram Broadcast Channel & They ain't said Jack about maschine, so yeah we kno nothing, if you do, okay kl
S series mk3 "basic integration". That is so vague and concerning. I just got mk3 as an upgrade from my mk1, and cant believe it doesnt work in maschine properly. Browse button doesnt even work.
@FizzENT I cant take that risk so taking it back, but if so, I'm buying it immediately. I think it would be stupid of them to turn their back on their maschine users. It would just become a kontakt player.
@@m1ndsetstudiomonths ago before even an estimate of 3.0 maschine software date it was a clear the mk3 didn't integrate with plus or maschine software, but you just bought one anyway and now that they have announced 3.0 will have mk3 support you're going to sell yours? Your mindset is incredible
@zmmmzmmmz yeh was an assumption based on over 10 years of purchasing their equipment. Even the shop keeper was baffled. You do realise if you don't live on RUclips or chat forums, you wouldn't have any way of knowing it wasn't compatible. Plus based on it being native instruments, and ALL of their previous gear ALL working, you could EASILY assume their equipment would always work with it's software. Clearly me and the shopkeeper was wrong in thinking so. Also it support is coined "BASIC INTEGRATION", and that could literally mean anything. Either way couple days and if all good will keep, if not will return as been accepted. Anyways thanks for your input ☺️
I brought a MK 2 keyboard in the last year because it worked well with Maschine, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out Maschine 3 software will not work so well with my MK 2 keyboard The way Kontakt 8 isn’t integrated so well with my keyboard. I still have a Rig Kontrol 3 guitar pedal sat on a shelf because they stopped supporting it, It’s a well made unit that could last for years why drop support for something that connects via usb and not release something to replace it
oh dang. That's the one thing i don't like about technology. Sometimes things are made great and companies will discontinued products or no longer support them.
Hold on to it. I decided to get a mk3 and it doesn't work like the mk1 or mk2. I'm struggling to get a refund. Why would you sell a keyboard that doesn't work with your software!
It is clear from their announcement and image, that this will not be a revolutionary update. More of an update to arguably stay competitive. For my use cases, this is not terrible news. The fact that they did not highlight a new and vastly improved midi editor is probably most disappointing. This is a clear deficiency currently. That said, I think a lot here depends on the pricing. If it is reasonable for what is being delivered, then most will be ok.
I am not happy, I wonder if you and other NI Maschine SW &HW users thoughts, that with this SW upgrade, the old Maschine controllers will not be supported...........so will we will be forced to buy new controllers?
@@FizzENT So they’re gonna force ppl to buy 3.0 if they want the mk3 cool practices NI. There must be some extreme changes coming especially if it was any kind of compatibility issues. I hope we are able to record audio into tracks.
MPC got them scrambling all the thing he says he’s looking for MPC had for years like the tempo change on scenes Mpc had it on sequences for like 30 years 😂😂😂
I think it's intersting that maschine studio will work with maschine 3 but the mk3 won't. I mean, at this point, I'm reserving all opinions on it until I get 3 in my hands.
Even though it's not going full DAW , I still rock with Maschine .
🙌 Same !
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You damn right!!
@michaelbledsoe8255 same, the workflow in making a beat in maschine is so sick. I went from starting on cubase, and then years later found maschine, and not turned back. I am worried about their direction with latest hardware, literally taking my s49 mk3 back as it doesn't integrate with software like previous. If that's sorted, that keyboard is insane !!
Can’t Wait To See What Its Hitting For!!!
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Everything NI communicated about 3.0 indicates that this is a very small upgrade, apart from the stem separation. Given the massive shortcomings in Maschine 2 in the area of the piano roll editing, in the song arrangement and in how it handles Audio “tracks”, it is very disappointing after such a long radio silence. The announcement of a large bunch of multi-sampled instruments (Maschine Central?) seems like a desperate move to keep Maschine+ alive. It’s of course a lot easier and cheaper to produce packs of multi-samples than to develop plug-ins that run on M+. But AKAI seems to have no problem regularly churning out new native (😂) MPC plug-ins and even revamping its entire OS to enable full arrangements. Perhaps AKAI lives on a planet where the pandemic never happened 😂?
I absolutely love the Maschine platform but have lost all confidence in NI since they stopped investing in it. The shocking removal of Maschine support from the new keyboards painfully exposed the sad fact that NI no longer sees Maschine as a worthwhile long term platform. What a waste…
Thanks for your feedback. I think stem separation is going to be a highlighted feature.
I was recently using an earlier version of Maschine 2 for compare and contrast purposes. I'd have to say, over the years with all of the small updates, Maschine 2 has become a lot better from when they initial release of it. That should have been the significant update. I'm curious if version 3 will be the same way.
That removal may have been a business strategy to entice people to use Kontrol mk3 with the newest software of Maschine 3 🤷♂️
This should be top comment
@@FizzENTbro, you’re talking out your ass
@@MyNameJeff.. 😅 👂🦗
@@FizzENT You made a valid point about the development of Maschine 2 - there were 18 dot upgrades over the years. I'll venture to say the same will happen with Maschine 3.0. It may appear to be a small set of upgrade features to start especially after the claims of waiting so long, but I believe they will come. People who are talking about jumping ship to Akai, should just grab a life jacket and get to swimming already.
I hope they add a few plugins for Maschine + to use in standalone mode! Such as solidbus compressor … putting it on the master really helps glue stuff 2gether!
That would be cool!
Hopefully they support mp3 files this time around.. that would be a plus.. and warp like functions for chops when changing the project tempo…
Yep, I'm looking forward to the per scene tempo feature.
There is a major problem with midi recording. When I record midi and I want to undo the notes ive just recorded in on my mac by pressing option x it starts to do this thing where begins to undo every note at a time rather than the whole section I’ve just recorded.
Is this happening in Maschine 3 ?
THERE is no other person than my man FIZZ i was waiting to speak on Maschine ! GOOD VID BRO
💯 I appreciate that man 🙏
Maschine is great for ideation. But the MIDI grid editor can definitely do with some improvements. Hardware wise the JAM and Maschine MK3 are perfect for rapid idea creation. I don’t really work with STEMs and samples but instead use the many amazing NKS compatible libraries.
Fair enough!
Can you please make a video about Maschine 3.0 Stem Separation vs the native Logic Pro 11 Stem Splitter?
Sorry, I do not have access to logic stems feature
Whelp,I still Rock the MK1 version of Maschine.
& I Don't think going to upgrade until I can update Maschine Controller.😢
oh wow, i wonder how it is using the original software.
@FizzENT you cannot update to 3.0 and use it on MK2 or 1, it's not an option. Regrettably you have to upgrade your Maschine
Any indication of what it will cost?
Still to come
Just in $29.00 bit.ly/4hEecdU
Thank you for this info sir! This shall be an interesting run for Maschine. I’m still in high hopes that they will bounce back!
You and me both!
What’s going on, bro? I’m thinking of getting your course, but what is included?
I bought the dds course he kind of flew I had to keep rewind it
And sara2hill was pretty good.
I’m just trying to master maschine 2 so I can slowly move away from Fl. I like how the software and Maschine MK3 are very intuitive with each other
My course focuses on the Maschine software. It is step by step and easy to follow. It's a little over an hour long, but let the time fool you as it is packed with tips, tricks and techniques to understanding how to use Maschine.
@ thank you I will definitely pick it up tonight. I always loved your content
@@Talentman18 Thank you 👍
@@FizzENT What's going on I just purchased the course It's not showing up when I login?
@Talentman18 looking into this immediately.
Bruh it’s need to be a ONE STOP SHOP!!! 🤦🏾♂️
😅 Lots going on behind the software. I really like where it is at right now
@@FizzENT you got the inside scoop bruh I haven’t heard any real details yet
@@FizzENT Also any update on what the upgrade price gone be
@@mbf6160 We will know in November
I know what you know because I information was sent to me and I keep looking, I think could be more than what they have revealed, so we can wait to see. I know Native Instruments doesn't like to slip behind. I have a mpc but I have stuck with Native Instruments first 💪🏿💪🏿
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I love im just so damn mad that they still havent added key features that alot of producers have been asking for YEARS. GIVE ME A LINE TOOL FOR AUTOMATION.... please.... Also, they have to come out with a full daw. Idc what it takes but all i know is if they can do it, it will be the best daw ever made (if done properly of course)NI needs to listen to their customers so they can make something actually magical
It has slowly improved over the years and i'm grateful for that, but yep that automation lol. Not sure if it will ever become full daw since that was never it's intended purpose.
hoping there's some improvements to automations. Kinda difficult to make linear automations currently.
yeah looking forward to that as well.
I just got an update today on my kontrol mk3 keyboard with integration for mashine 3.0 so the keyboard is going to be able to control mashine 3.0 software.
Yes, something like that
How you do download this daw I google it can’t find it
Version 3 is not yet available. Typically you will have to purchase one of their hardware units and that comes with the software see link here: bit.ly/2WHJDix
Sold my + 😢😢😢 still hoping for mk4. Would have loved to get rid of patterns and be abke to see the samples, midi data.
It's been confirmed no mk4 (as of right now)
No way it's finally coming out!! 😯
😅 Yep Finally !
looking at the mock-up screenshot - interface is the same as the old, just different colors... and not high-res.
Yep, as long as it has more features and improvements, i'll be okay
Been with native for years it's used as a beat maker then it's straight to logic to arrange.machine is one of the best out.but thay need to get on point with the update game there in the stone age when it comes to this look how long it took them to upgrade traktor pro.get on point native instruments.
Yep them updates be sloooooow
I’m going to be optimistic about Maschine 3.0 they should do well considering how late they are to the party coming with all the “features” that everyone already had for like a year or so now. And please for the love of God allow us to work with MP3 files. Idk who decided that was a good idea for it to not be supported. Smh
🤷♂️ idk the politics behind mp3 but i hope it works at least for the stem separation.
I just need the stem separation, sampler in bpm, and just a better midi editing ... i really want to do vocals in maschine and have different takes but it is very difficult
Yep 💯
People need to chill, we literally kno nothing about what's coming but folks already Sharpening their Pitch forks 😂 😂
I do but I can't say nothing
drama=clicks
🤣
We have literally been told what’s coming by NI themselves in their pre release notes, what do you mean we literally know nothing?
@@NakulKrishna What Pre Release Notes? not sure if you're aware but not all of us get these info filled emails from Ni, not all of us are in their forum, heck I'm in Their Instagram Broadcast Channel & They ain't said Jack about maschine, so yeah we kno nothing, if you do, okay kl
2:04 i cant beleive it, never knew it didnt work properly.
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we need a full daw
They already have it it’s called Ableton. extremely similar workflow
@@copewitdamzkpro4671lol you’re user name says it all. Cope.
idk about a full daw
Maschine software/DAW definitely needs some work, but the hardware/software integration is top notch.
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S series mk3 "basic integration". That is so vague and concerning. I just got mk3 as an upgrade from my mk1, and cant believe it doesnt work in maschine properly. Browse button doesnt even work.
I think everything will work out
@FizzENT I cant take that risk so taking it back, but if so, I'm buying it immediately. I think it would be stupid of them to turn their back on their maschine users. It would just become a kontakt player.
@@m1ndsetstudiomonths ago before even an estimate of 3.0 maschine software date it was a clear the mk3 didn't integrate with plus or maschine software, but you just bought one anyway and now that they have announced 3.0 will have mk3 support you're going to sell yours? Your mindset is incredible
@zmmmzmmmz yeh was an assumption based on over 10 years of purchasing their equipment. Even the shop keeper was baffled. You do realise if you don't live on RUclips or chat forums, you wouldn't have any way of knowing it wasn't compatible. Plus based on it being native instruments, and ALL of their previous gear ALL working, you could EASILY assume their equipment would always work with it's software. Clearly me and the shopkeeper was wrong in thinking so. Also it support is coined "BASIC INTEGRATION", and that could literally mean anything. Either way couple days and if all good will keep, if not will return as been accepted. Anyways thanks for your input ☺️
@FizzENT how wrong you were, the browse button doesn't even work.
I brought a MK 2 keyboard in the last year because it worked well with Maschine, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out Maschine 3 software will not work so well with my MK 2 keyboard
The way Kontakt 8 isn’t integrated so well with my keyboard.
I still have a Rig Kontrol 3 guitar pedal sat on a shelf because they stopped supporting it,
It’s a well made unit that could last for years why drop support for something that connects via usb and not release something to replace it
oh dang. That's the one thing i don't like about technology. Sometimes things are made great and companies will discontinued products or no longer support them.
Hold on to it. I decided to get a mk3 and it doesn't work like the mk1 or mk2. I'm struggling to get a refund. Why would you sell a keyboard that doesn't work with your software!
The upgrade will cost something too? Incredible.. 😅
I just need better vst3 compatibility with routing…and automation
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I just recently got the email announcing the abandonment of the OG Maschine Mikro, so my excitement is kind of diminished.
Yep, i read something about some of the OG controllers will no longer work in Version 3.
It is clear from their announcement and image, that this will not be a revolutionary update. More of an update to arguably stay competitive. For my use cases, this is not terrible news. The fact that they did not highlight a new and vastly improved midi editor is probably most disappointing. This is a clear deficiency currently. That said, I think a lot here depends on the pricing. If it is reasonable for what is being delivered, then most will be ok.
I guess the update game will continue
Man stop making excuses for NI talking about a pandemic delayed them. SMH
🤷♂️ I mean it delayed lots of companies, also it was because they of the merger situation.
I am not happy, I wonder if you and other NI Maschine SW &HW users thoughts, that with this SW upgrade, the old Maschine controllers will not be supported...........so will we will be forced to buy new controllers?
Really doesn’t look too much different from 2.0
🤷♂️ We will soon find out
Looks exactly the same. If you cant make tunes with maschine 2.0 then don’t upgrade. It won’t help you.
Looks are cool, but how does it perform .
Mk3 don’t work with 2.0 that makes absolutely no sense.
I think NI knew the software was going to be released soon so they designing it more for maschine 3.
Gotta preface with Komolete Kontrol MK3 Otherwise I thought yall reffering to maschine Mk3
I think you're confused. The Maschine Mk3 works with Maschine 3.0/ The Komplete Kontrol S-Series Mk3 controller works with Komplete Kontrol 3.0.
@@FizzENT So they’re gonna force ppl to buy 3.0 if they want the mk3 cool practices NI. There must be some extreme changes coming especially if it was any kind of compatibility issues. I hope we are able to record audio into tracks.
@@nkryptedmusic7961 no I was talking about the MK3 Keyboard
NI is done
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Maschine plus needs better vst, that stock ish is not going to make it happen 😑 I refuse to work under these conditions 😂😂 bout fu😂ckin tyme
105#
MPC got them scrambling all the thing he says he’s looking for MPC had for years like the tempo change on scenes Mpc had it on sequences for like 30 years 😂😂😂
🤷♂️ 🤣
I think it's intersting that maschine studio will work with maschine 3 but the mk3 won't. I mean, at this point, I'm reserving all opinions on it until I get 3 in my hands.
What are you talking about why wouldn't The Maschine Mk3 work with Maschine V3.0 who said that NI?
You mean the Mk2 and Mk1 controllers....Mk3 and Studio works fine (I've been a beta tester)
@@nkryptedmusic7961what can you say?
The mk3 s series keyboard not the Maschine mk3
@@MannyOGKthere’s an update for that as well
Lol it barely looks any different 😂
We will find out soon
Atleast an internal mp3 to wav converter or just accept mp3.
I'm thinking the stem separation feature will work for mp3, but it will only be for the sampler. 🤷♂️