What's Going On With Jordan Walker, Trade Targets In The American League, Pirates Series Preview
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What are your feeling on Jordan Walker and the trade targets I mentioned?
Adolis and Scherzer for Noot/Edman include Chase Davis anyone else in the 15-30’s of prospects not named Prieto
Gray-Scherzer would potentially outduel Nola-Wheeler.
Walker has a long swing to get his full power to launch it, he just needs quicker pitch recognition and tweak his swing to keep his barrel in the zone longer
The lefty starter kookooachoo? That guy from Toronto. Richard's also Kirby Yates! Great numbers!. Can the hitting coach help Gorman? Walker the first year was great and respectable was it 16 homers and grow from there. It's tough go look at hitters that are that tall. Strawberry , Dave Parker had success. Dave Kingman not so much. You have a large strike zone and a lot more mechanics in your swing. I hope Jordan will be back and I wish him the best. Your batting title were one by hitters that are around 6ft Stan M , Gwynn, Rose, Cobb,Manny Rimirez,Nomar Garciappara, MaureRoger Hornsby ,Kirby Puckett, Ichiro..the list is long. But Walker I think can hit 280 which is great in this league now. Albert Pujols 6ft3 hit in the crouch great success. Great job Lance Lynn👍👏 keep it up..looking for that red jacket. Thankyou JD for the possibilities in the trade depth. ⚾️🏆 Brock had over 3000 hits and Keith Hernandez a batting title
I don't understand that the cardinals and alot of fans are talking about looking for a #5 starter. This team presently have a number of #4 and 5 starters already on the roster in my opinion. Lynn, Pallante, Gibson and even Mikolas would all be considered to be 4 and 5 starters on a good team. If they are going to try to get another starter how about aiming a little higher and give yourself a chance if you make the playoffs.
@@denniskelly2177 They could aim higher but past deals say they won’t go after a blockbuster deal to get a top guy
Don't give up on Walker he's still very young
Agree, I think we need to be more concerned about Gorman. Man does it hurt to watch him at bat.
@@jaxonbaker2512Grand slam looked good tonight 😂
@@LockedOnCardinalsMLB maybe he just doesn’t like pride month🤣
Walker won t be back until 26
What I hate about ALL pro sports today is that it's all about "making the playoffs", and the money that comes with that. But very few teams just "making the playoffs" are actually good enough to win the Super Bowl, the Stanley Cup, the NBA title or the World Series. Yes, the Cardinals have played well lately, but this isn't a World Series team. So, the real story this year is going to be, have they improved enough to develop into a World Series team next year. Lots of work to do to accomplish that. I just hope they'll make the moves needed to create that kind of team.
I remember some of the Cardinals writers commenting at the beginning of spring training that Walker looked significantly bigger, as in upper body muscle mass. If that's true, I have to wonder if that extra muscle mass has messed up his swing mechanics?
The most glaring problem is the OF. On any given night you have two of them in the lineup that offer zero offensive production.
and yet .... we WIN.
People who focus only on hitting do not see how the game is really won - with defense and pitching. The Dodgers are not running away with their division this year like they did in the past, even though they have one of the best hitting teams right now that the game has seen in 50 years. They have defensive issues, compounded by pitchers on IL, so the hitting is not making up for the difference.
The glaring problem you talk of is not a problem at all. The outfield is making this team win more.
@@rayrussell6258 “the dodgers are not running away with their division.” They are 8.5 games up, before the all star break. What would you consider running away?
I’ve been saying this for years. Cardinals need hitters that drive in runs, especially with runners in scoring position. 2013 was the last season I can remember that the Cardinals had impressive hitting and run production.
Looks like another player that will turn into an all star two years after we trade him
Trade him to LA and he will hit 40-50 homers a year.
Totally messed up Walker with the dumb swing plane b.s. Just see the ball & drive it. If it goes, it goes.
Is it Jordan’s fault or the developmental departments within Cardinals organization
Probably a little of both. When you have very little adversity at the beginning of you career, it is normal to mentally think I've got this!
It's Mozeliak not liking Line drive ground balls.
Its you analytic nerds tbat decide no cardinal is ever good enough.i seen him in springfield on a regular basis
The responsibility ultimately lies with Jordan Walker. He’s the guy with the bat in his hands and has to decide to take the advice of the coaching staff, or do what has always worked for him, assuming these are not the same thing.
@@brianr4214and guys like you who want him to change
JD just a thank you for your program and positive outlook! I really enjoy watching you daily. Continued success, Bodie.
I say ride with Burelson, Donavan, and Siani for the rest of this season. Noot anyone else would have to earn a spot back at this point.
Teams also attacked Goldschmidt on the outside of the plate and we saw batting results similar to Walker. Gorman hit .188 in April and about .142 in June. With Goldy, they bet on a turnaround. With Gorman, they had to hope Edman returned and hit. Now...
goldy will only get worse baseball has the book on goldy and goldy has not read it yet if you catch my drift ..they all know goldy takes strike one than swings at ball 2 than strikes out on a pitch 3 feet off the plate
if they resign goldy next year just give him a minimum minor league contract no way you give him any kind of large salary or god forbid a multi year that is total insanity
@@williamyoder-b5s I don't think Goldy gets re-signed.
Burleson at first makes alot of sense but we are use to gold glove defense there. Goldy saves us a lot over there!!
And Burleson has shown he is a darn good defensive player in the outfield, with a tremendously accurate arm to keep runners from taking extra bases. StL should not rock that boat.
Walker aside, Gorman is the hot mess at the plate right now. There needs to be an intervention ASAP.
It’s called a slump dummy
That grand slam should boost his confidence
Hit a grand salami today hopefully he gets on track
@@tylerbenlien6093 That was so good to see! Just hoping it's the spark he needs.
@@slocumb1270he’s always been a guy who is streaky. Before these past few weeks, he had 2-3 weeks where he couldn’t stop hitting if he wanted to
Then what do you do with Baker? Doesn't sound like there was a lot of thinking then.
It just doesn’t feel like he’s got a future in St Louis… already 27. Just not sure how they feel about him but hard to ignore the 23 HRs and 57 RBIs at Memphis
@@LockedOnCardinalsMLB FYI, Burleson is 26
@@tonycomer1415with two years of MLB experience and now legit success at the MLB level… I’m not a Baker hater just saying
@@LockedOnCardinalsMLB The Tigers really need a first baseman. They sent down Spencer Torkelson, their #1 pick a few years ago, who has lost his hitting and defense, in a move similar to what StL did with Walker. The Cardinals should take a look at moving Baker, to get a relief pitcher from Detroit.
So happy for Gorman tonight. 2 hits to include the Cardinals first Grand Slam of the year.
These close game wins are going to come in handy down the stretch and in the wild card games..!
Let's go Birds!
Goldschmidt, has to be dealt because of last year of the contract. Burleson moves to first. Wynn stays put as well as Donovan splits between left field and 2nd. Edman plays second base and backs up Wynn at short. Try to trade Walker, Scott, and Romero for Skeles from Pittsburgh. He's the best pitcher available. Noot, Siani, Donovan in outfield and the hard decision is Gordon and Contreras. Both are powerful but streaky Keep three catchers including Pages and Herrera. Trade Arenado if it's profitable.
100 agree trade goldy 1st.
He will be 37 soon.
Arenado is 33 ,has seen his better days.
We aren't winning with them so reload for the future.
As a baseball biz it's probably best for the birds.❤❤
Trade Walker, Scott and JoJo for Skenes, as if he's available??? Buddy, I don't know what you're smokin', but I WANT some! 😂
Never happening
Some have longer leashes than others. Walker was sent down immediately both years. Gorman strikes out 50% of the time lately. If going down helps Walker, why not Gorman. I love both guys, but I don't understand the difference. Other guys wait forever like Prieto and Baker. Burleson/Baker is the future at first. I love Goldschmidt and Arenado, but the opportunity to take them to the World Series as Cardinals is closing. 😢 Youth has to be served, and more pitching must be traded for to be a playoff caliber team. This is make it or break it for you, Big Mo, act appropriately. I will create a list of must keepers vs. trade them.
I see the difference. ANY player who may want to wear a Gold Chain or play with swag will be sent out of town
You may think I'm nuts trade Arenado put Walker on 3rd so its one less thing to worry about,besides it'll save you 38 mill. Dont extend Goldie and you can put Bureleson on 1rst and thats alot cash to spend on pitchers and alot of team control.
they would have to make a sleeveless red jacket for Lynn lol
They really should think about trading Walker. I think the Cards people have ruined any future with St. Louis due to all the blankery with his swing and confidence. That is why he's barely an average AAA player right now. A new organization will save his career and naturally he'll be a stud somewhere else because that is just the way things go. The asking price for him would likely yield some serious talent.
Nobody wants walker.he won t be back till 26
@@roballen8431 I think you're right. Until he cuts down on all the K's, he isn't much use to anyone.
The phils don t have a problem with scharber striking and hitting .200.
@@roballen8431 Walker doesn't deliver the offensive run production that Schwarber does, not even close. And even though he isn't a Gold Glover, he isn't a negative on defense allowing extra bases and 4-out innings like Walker does.
I like the Zach Eflin idea and some of the other guys you mentioned. I personally don't think the Cardinals have the pieces to acquire any of the players. The farm system is depleted and unfortunately I believe the smartest thing the Cardinals should do for the benefit of the organization is to sell. They need to trade Helsley for the best young pitching available. The Cardinals will not give Helsley the money he will be owed after this awesome season and they don't have enough pitching to field the MLB roster for next year.
Any potential chance you think they work with Contreras to becoming a part time first baseman? His bat is good enough but you have the worry about his defense (although, unlike Herrera he has an arm) He's locked in, and after the fiasco last year, they have tainted the well at how other teams perceive him as a catcher (which was of course over blown by the media.... but when isn't it?)
I think these surplus of talents at a position have consistently worked their way out for the most part. Between injuries and failure to develop, often times there isn't anyone being blocked.It's more of what we had the last couple of years where the performance just doesn't match the talent. (or when the talent realizes the performance, we've moved on already)
I honestly think we've struggled with surplus of talent that worked out, much more on the infield than the outfield, and we've managed to work it out... Edman and Donovan on almost any other team would be starting infielders, and probably winning gold gloves at their position. (not that they haven't both already won one, my point is that they got moved out because of better options while being more than capable of playing the position)
The Rangers pitchers you mentioned are intriguing worth looking into if they are sellers!!
8 back wild card they are selling
Kirby Yates sounds like a NY Met to me....... they need relief pitching more than any team in baseball at this time and Steven Cohen has the money to make a deal work.
Hey JD I was curious what your thoughts were on this hypothetical trade senecio.
We get Garret Crochet, Luis Robert Jr, John Brebbia for Jordan Walker, José Fermin, Tink Hence, Dylan Carlson.
Is that an overpay or an underpay?
What would package differently for those players?
I predict Walker will be a first baseman on a major league team at some point. He looks lost in the outfield. Had we traded Goldschmidt this past off-season, Walker may be playing first base today
If Walker came up next year, why on earth would we play Burleson at 1B instead of Walker? Burleson has been solid in the outfield. Walker will never be any good as an outfielder.
scherzer should be the move if the rangers sell. would settle for eflin, kikuchi or tyler anderson though if we can't get him
Siani has improved his offense immensely, he's got a .735 OPS over the last 4 weeks and Baseball Savant has him as the most valuable defender in MLB at any position. I love Edman, but there's no way I'd put him in CF unless Siani crashes.
Cards o.f. is brutal.
More arms are needed in the pen and a 5th starter. I like Scherzer. When Noot comes back do you move Donovan to 2B? Outside of that I don't see them doing anything until the off season unless they add a RH OF. I don't expect any contributions from Walker, Edmon, or Matz this year.
We need to keep Burly for sure!
Who had Jordan Walker's play in Right Field being the one bright spot for him on their 2024 Bingo card. Wish him the best and hope to see him at the Bigs soon.
What about the other players on the team that are hitting below 200 batting average?
Trade goldy ,arenado.
Matz, miles ,gio and carlson..
Keep walker.
Reload for next year ,years to come.
We haven't been winning with arenado ,goldy but it makes sense long term..
Mo won’t do that
Best trades we could make would be Oli and Mo for anyone. It has been musical chairs for three years now. They keep putting band-Aids on one position after another. Only thing that saves us is being in the Central. The only positions that have been locked up is 1st and 3rd and thats about over with.
Id trade walker for a #2 starter or a center fielder if u can get something good fur him y not bcuz we dnt need him we've got plenty of corner outfielders anyways !!
Trade all of the outfielders that had a fair chance to produce and has failed for the last 3 years. Walker is the only player of value to other teams.
Trade your potential young superstar lmaooo ok
@GSG9Kazmir potential is the key word but like I said if ya got something good back lik a #2 starter that b OK
JD, will you do me a favor and talk about how bad Gorman is every day? You've got a good reverse jinx going there.😊
I’d be going after several starters …that we’ve needed all season and a few more decent bullpen arms. Guys I think would help a lot don’t need to be super studs. Tyler Anderson will probably be available from the Angels who will be sellers. Matt Moore and former all star Paul Blackburn from Oakland who are also expected to be sellers. Elfin from TB would be a solid addition. I’d be willing to let Goldschmidt, Gorman, Crawford, Carlson and Mikolas Siani and Walker go.
What about signing trevor Bauer to a league minimum deal?
I wouldn't mind but that dude is blackballed for life.
No
Even if they wanted too, do the Cards even have room for Jordan? They have a glut of outfielders already. Guess we will see who goes at the trade deadline.
What has mlb done to baseballs offense sucks too many strike outs by all of baseball players a lot of young players accross baseball are struggling deadened baseball?
I love the Cardinals flag.
I know it might be unpopular but you could never get more for burleson then you can right now.... you want a good starting pitcher... like a real pitcher not just a filler, he's the piece teams are going to target on the big league level
So, did they have that Jordan Walker bobblehead night already? 😂
Yep! I have it haha
They have had two already this season.
The Gardner should trade for Brent Rooker he has lots of power he can actually hit with runners and scoring position better than anyone on the Cardinals at the current time
I know you haven't seent eh results of Tuesday's game. IT's goign to be neat to see what yu yhave to say about it. tommorrow
I just listened to your trade targets podcast and was disappointed that there was no mention of position players. While a starting pitcher could be used, especially in the playoffs, this team could use a big bat in the line up. Goldy and Arenado are not cutting it this year, and while Burleson and Donovan are hitting well, the line up has no hitter that the opposing teams fear. I don't see Nootbaar and/or Edman filling that role either. Maybe Contreras does, but I'm not holding my breath for him returning to form anytime soon.
they do fear the cardinal hitters not named nado or goldy I wonder what would happen if you benched those 2 for 1 month IM thinking they take off and pass the brewers with no problem ..the trouble with the cardinals is that they always wanna keep players to long so they can have a farewell tour.. witness last year with adam wainright debacle they were willing to lose every 5th game than try to at least try to put some effort into there pitching staff.. that in nutshell I think they wanna sign goldy for a farewell tour that would be the biggest joke in mlb history also it would soil all of goldys previeous accomplishments
Scherzer! Go Parkway Central Colts!!
A lot of these opinions in the comments is exactly why fans aren’t GM’s 😂😂😂😂. I’ve read a lot of……Interesting takes…..
Tell me abt it...trade walker?? What are we doing?
If they target a jays pitcher Chad green included would be nice
Richard’s is solid too
Jordan needs to develop a new swing and stay flat footed..keeping his left foot up is killing his power
Walker just needs to shrink a couple of inches. Countless times he struck out looking at shin high pitches.
One word for Walker...confidence! On that note, you tell someone to change their swing, send them down to AAA, demote them twice, "encourage" him to change his natural position, and expect him to be Hammering Hank in a year!? How much "patience" did they have for Bro-Neil after they cut him lose!? All this Walker trade talk is coming from the "best fans in baseball😂"?? Man it'd be a huge loss if so, but if it happens I hope Walker gets traded to a team that knows how to develop their players and JD Drew the Cardinals!__ 😂So, how much patience is Oli going to have batting Contreras 3rd?
Atlanta would want him. Send the kid to a team that would treat him right. He would love playing at home.
Do you think it’s best to let Edman be the starting 2B when he’s back if gormans struggles continue?
If the Cards keep him, he'll under achieve.
If they trade him to a team like Tampa he'll be a SuperStar.
Let's not forget , Mozeliak having a problem with him hitting line drive ground balls.
And wanting him to swing lower half of the ball.
His pop outs and strikeouts went rampant after that.
So Walker will probably be better off elsewhere.
Walker has been striking out at high rates even in AA ball, against players his own age. It's unlikely he will ever get much better.
I think this launch angle excuse is falsehood, the real problem with his hitting is swing and miss.
We one more ace to get us over the hump
After reading the comments in the Cardinals Happy Juneteenth post if I were Walker, Winn, Hence and Davis I would welcome a trade
Why because people are tired of this woke pandering… or should they ask for trade because of someone’s crazy opinion.. I think they are more tougher than some dumb comments
@@boschlosser10
Oh so this attitude of over 60 years ago should be accepted by these young men today. GTFOH
Define "Woke"
Offense was there today but can it last
GO CARDS!!!!
The Cardinals asked Jordan Walker to put the ball in the air and hit for more power, but how can you ask him to do something other no other players on your team can do, it seem like they are holding him to a higher standard than anyone else. There really messing the Cardinals up because the reason the fans came to the games is to see him and the other young players. If you go downtown you see Jordan Walkers banner on the light poles going to the game and he isn’t on the team. Bring him back so he can learn in the big leagues.
The White Sox are trading Garrett Crochet. I would trade Carlson, Nootbar (Herrera or Contreras) Goldschmidt and Edman for Crochet wouldn’’t you? Cardinals have a plethora of surplus players so they can afford to trade them. No loss for Cardinals for trading some configuration of players to get an impact player like Crochet.
Youth must be served, i love Goldschmidt and Arenado, but Mo has not put together a World Series team around them. If you don't trade Goldschmidt, then Mo better trade, trade, trade for a contender team. Scherzer, Eovaldi, Crochet, Fedde, he needs to get the best available. Need outfield offense, how about Rooker from A's? Since Middleton, O'Brien, Robertson, Gallegos hasn't panned out we need a shut down reliever. Our relief staff has performed great, but their tongues are hanging out. We need a stud startser (Scherzer, Efflin, Eovaldi) A reliever( Mason Miller, Carlos Estevez, Trevor Richards, Kirby Yates) Offense centerfield Brent Rooker, Louis Roberts, Tommy Pham) Go for it with costly high caliber trades, if not, trade Veterans for our younger replacements.
I don’t want to resign Goldschmidt. And I want to trade Dylan Carlson and Lars Nootbar.
Cronin kid from the Marlins.
Trading Jordan Walker is going to hurt worse than Randy or rosarina if he could hit the ball the way that he was hitting the ball and then whatever our coaching style told him to change and that all the sudden he started to suck and I believe that might be a coaching staff issue somebody that big and that strong if they do with their talk to do then the results will come in time if you change what you had previously talked them to do and there's going to cause problem
I'd still like the Cards to go after Trevor Bauer the best pitcher out there. St. Louis is a place for second chances and worth giving him a shot. We have the veteran presence to keep him in check.
I want to trade Edman Nootbaar Herrera or ? To get a top pitcher and another relief pitcher
They don 't have much trade value right now.
What u going to get? A bag of balls? 😂
Edman has very little trade value at the moment. He is having a lost, injury riddle season. If his wrist is not right, he is not a player anyone would want!
Definitely need a # 2 ace if you want to make a deep run when it comes to playoff baseball..
Lotta people like our OF's but will could actually use a guy who can hit ,hit , hit and get on base..
Nootbar doesn't hit for average
Carlson is horrible.
Can count on edman.
Give me a guy who can bat around. .300 + , a # 2 starting pitcher to go with sonny .
Improve our chances to getting deep into the post season..
Over 9 strikeouts per 9 is good, 4 & 8 era over 4 , terrible
Arozarena had a sub .800 ops in age 22/23 AAA seasons for STL. Adolis Garcia age 24/25 AAA seasons avg out to .800 OPS. Walker is barely 22 after being jerked around with questionable player development. Moral of story: don't quit on Walker. Don't sell low on Jordan Walker. Patience as you said.
I cant even BELIEVE people are saying we should trade him. Hes struggled yeah, but jesus christ people it is not the end of the world!
Jordan has been a power disappointment for sure BUT it was a big organizational mistake sending him down his rookie year bc of lack of power and launch angle. He was hitting relatively well for a rookie. Ridiculous decision. I don’t think he’ll ever recover in this organization.
I have no faith in our development staff. We get rid of good players. And keep crap players, and I haven't seen enough of walker to say he's good are bad. No faith
What's up with Bally Sports?
Patience?!?!? My patience with the Nolan Gorman experiment is done!!! The Gorman experiment must end!!! 40-50% strike rate is unacceptable no matter how many (or few) home runs he hits!!!
I don't understand why they are unwilling to send him down to AAA and get his swing together. Not wanting to hurt his feelings?
Well gee he s two for two with a grand slam
@@roballen8431Don't care... It won't last 'til tomorrow.
@@roballen84318th inning strike out!!! It didn't last to the next pitcher!!!
Goldy is right there with Gorman in the strikeout game.
The fact that Burly can stay healthy is enough to have won an OF spot. It would be a tragedy if they move Burly to the bench where he regresses and Noot/Edman cant stay healthy.
It would also be a tragedy to trade away minor league talent just to improve this team to a solid WC #3 or #2 and get crushed in the WC round. This is not a team that's competitive enough to be buyers, regardless of the playoffs are in the future.
So apology videos soon lol
Trevor Bauer
Jordan Walker outta bring some real value back.
You talk so much about Walker but Gorman is a dumpster fire. Why is he still on this team.
Scherzer only cost 13 mil right now
Scherzer or Evoldi but rather have Scherzer I feel a STL move for him could bring out the best in him finally back home with Sonny 1-2 punch in the wild card could get em to the divisional vs Phillies or dodgers
Scherzer in STL back home in the playoffs would for sure be a 1A-1B ace like pitcher with Sonny could easily give you 5-6 shut out innings vs Braves/Padres/Brewers
They better not trade Jordan walker they will be making a huge mistake he is a very talented player Tommy Edmond is off limits to
That dude can’t play
I am all for Trading Jordan Walker to give him a fresh start Zac Efflin
What are you nuts😂
For Robert Jr.. straight up yeah maybe but again that’s big risk with his injuries
@boschlosser10 A couple of their starters are better than anybody we have except Gray. What's your opinion on a larger trade to include Fedde or Crochet with Roberts?
Only for the right deal.
Rather have Scherzer for someone else not Walker he is on a one year left 13 mil
What is the issue w/ the Cardinals & African American players Jordan Walker will play less were and be a stud, let’s start talking about the Elephant in the room & addess the racial issue
Quit calling the wonderful city of St. Louis, “The Lou”. I like Nellie. He’s generous and genuine. He is St. Louis. He and other St. Louisans are allowed to call the Gateway City the “Lou”. Nobody else is entitled. But, whoever had the idea of placing those words on the team uniform should be banished for life to cleaning the men’s urination troughs (the loo) at Wrigley.
I was never impressed by Walker
I like your channel and would watch more if they are a little shorter. Hit the points and move on please. Too much talking on the topics. You could do the same show in half the time
They are supposed to be 30 minute shows… but I get where you are coming from. You can always fast forward or click a head haha I appreciate you listening!
Walker is never going to be a star player. No defense and strikes out to much. Hes another Nolan Gorman
Man these people have lost their minds, man we have Matt Carpenter on the roster!!! I live in Memphis. Why is Jordan Walker in Memphis.? I am tired of watching these stinking ball players playing every day with the Cardinals. I guess if Winn starts next year slow he is headed to Memphis.
They want HR’s and doubles instead of letting him develop on his own and mess with his swing 24/7 he needs to go back to the basics
This organization ruins young stars plain and simple. Our player development is below average in comparison to other teams. Let Walker just play baseball. Leave him alone. On one hand you see how they finally allowed Burelson just play and look what he is doing. Stop tinkering with studs.
Goldy will not be back, stop it
Don't give up on Walker he's still very young