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I don’t care if she was gullible. She may have been very sheltered, and the situation ramped up slowly over time which normalized things for her. She’s a victim. Her cousin saw a weakness and exploited it.
This case fills me with rage. It’s insane that Simran spent so much time ruining her cousin’s life and for what? Also, Kirat frustrates me. She ignored every single red flag. Kirat couldn’t go and see Bobby in witness protection but Simran can? Bobby can have a baby with his ex and Kirat is okay with still being with him? I don’t understand her thought process.
I totally agree, the red flags were the ones but I guess she had the rose tinted glasses on and she so wanted Bobby to be real so went that far with it, sad really and such a shame. Thanks for commenting! If you haven't already, please like and subscribe, thank you!!
I watched this doc the other day and I laughed the minute she mentioned how he was shot and sent to America on witness protection like that's complete BS, nobody ever tells you they're on that program but I guess she was gullible to believe it
@@GazzaSinghGI agree! Probably she was vulnerable which made her fall for it. And that's exactly why she has come out to share her story so other women don't fall for it. Although she's a victim nothing to be ashamed or guilty. She's doing something noble of putting her story out there to warn others.
Kirat being a Radio representer n being Naive……people l can’t buy this as she was in a relationship with another guy for 18 yrs 😮.No confidence n no self value that is is my conclusion.ln today’s era of Technology No face time or video call shud hav been Red flags
Simran was an incredible villain. She knew all of Kirat’s vulnerabilities and triggers and understood how to use them against Kirat. So all of Fake Bobby’s excuses and personas were so calculated it would have made it incredibly difficult for Kirat to decipher what is real and what’s not. It was tailored for Kirat. It’s easy for us to be in disbelief of how someone can get sucked into something like this - but the strategy/tactics weren’t tailored to you! Would you not 2nd guess yourself when you have multiple people online (Fake bobby’s cousins) and your own cousin Simran painting a certain picture? I think it’s really important to have empathy when discussing Kirat’s ‘gullibleness’
Both Simran n Kirat are psychopaths.l don’t think anyone is so gullible in today’s world and more so at their age.What Nonsense 10 yrs😳You are talking sense here
I’m sure she did but he always had some excuse. Funny thing is the girl was such a big fool, yet she refuses to admit that she was gullible! Denial! Major denial!
Simran really made up literally an entire fake persona but not only that, she embellished like a whole entire personal drama for fake Bobby and got him to type long messages just offloading his fake personal shit and issues with his fake interfering in laws, making it seem his first marriage broke down as the first wife got pregnant by someone else. I think Simran really lived these characters lives in her head or something.
Allegedly Simran has done this to other people so I think you're right with her head not being straight. Also thanks for commenting! Please smash the like button and subscribe if you haven't already, thanks! 😄
I don’t believe in the concept of victim blaming here. She’s either really stupid or blatantly ignorant. Why didn’t she block him or report him if she was feeling that he didn’t want face time ? I’d never date anyone I cannot meet in person ?
Simran put almost more effort into this fake relationship than Kirat did. She must have been high on the power she had over Kirat's life, to have done this for so long. It's like the most extreme case of LARPing.
My feeling is that Kirat is still in “love” with Bobby. Her face, even at the end, when she knew all, lights up when she talked about “him”. These feelings run so deep. I love the podcast and all things on tortoise. ❤
I watched Vice documentary and ur video made some things more clear. 10 yrs, it's insane. Because emotional abuse can't be observed, in most cases it's considered to be not a big deal, but emotional abuse is way worse than physical. Kirat's believes, perception of family, herself were shattered to the roots. It's several years of good therapy. I believe this case should be the beginning of catfishing prosecution Simran is way younger than Kirat. Probably she started it as fun but that endless power and control that she was feeling with time took over. I don't know the community well but I used to live in Kenya so I have some understanding. My guess would be - girls usually "don't have a say" and here she was ruling smb's life. Another thing that suprised me is that Simran opened up herself to Kirat I also wonder how did Simran manage to live her life, work and be all these ppl the same time? Anyway this case is shocking and big respect to Kirat that she opened it for the whole world. I hope it'll save lives of innocent people
Totally agree! Apparently Simran has done this to others too, might be a mental issue kind of thing. Thanks for the comment, please subscribe if you haven't done so already! More to come!
Thanks for your insights, Gaza, yeah Simran is a complete psychopath and she's really intelligent. These kind of people are very successful in life and highly manipulative, I would love a professional psychological opinion on this kind of mind. Yeah Kirat is a bit gullible, desperate and wanted to believe that Sweet Bobby was real, that's my perception on the documentary and podcasts, I believe in what you said about the fact that Simran should be prosecuted by both Kirat and Bobby. Just liked and subbed.
You are a legend, thank you for commenting and subscribing! I agree with your assessment, allegedly Simran has done this to other people so she could very well be mentally unstable 👀
@GazzaSinghTV yeah there are people out there like her and I doubt Kirat will be her last victim, I hope she is stopped before she ends up upsetting the wrong person but then again imagine if she catfished someone who has advanced havking skills 😲 but then she'd deserve all the come uppance then 😆 Thanks for replying and giving my comment a ❤️
i know someone who pretended to be in a relationship for years by using two phones and they would message themselves and reply we only came to light when they left their phone unlocked and their mother had a look the messages where about them meeting each other the night before at home but i myself was in that house the night before and her mother was in for the whole night so their was no way they could have met the night before after her mother asked her about it she confessed they had two phones and was messaging herself it had been going on for years she even was talking about a wedding and making plans and every time her mother was asking to meet her man he was always away so of course she was suspicious
@@GazzaSinghG I have a feeling the girl wanted to be in a relationship as all her peers where getting on with their lives and having boy friends and settling down but I don't think she thought it through that by saying she was in a relationship its not going to attract a boy friend for her
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She held on to get the Romeo cardiologist even if it’s scraps of him and the more she saw nothing of him the more she built that dreamy perception of him virtually and mentally. Btw a close knit community is commensurate with in bred community! You need to question whether we can think for ourselves without holy books and scriptures, cultures and tradition …generations like Simiran are a product of her insular living and the grandfather and the rest of her clan in which she was nurtured are as to blame for her becoming…. she lived her real self virtually and another according to the traditions demanded by her surrounding !
Hi! I'm a new subscriber. I have a channel myself, but not successful like yours. It was very insightful to hear your opinions and thoughts. You added a lot to the conversation. This story was so fascinating to me. Thanks for making this video!
Enjoyed your review ..fantastic 👍..even though simran is nothing but a narcissst and psychopath..Kirat should take some accountability for her gullible behaviour ..Also it’s almost like kirat wanted to live in this fantasy so desperately and maybe she still hasn’t even separated the fake from real Bobby ..
Yeah Simran defo is a bit of a psycho and I agree with you in terms of being gullible but once you're in that storm it is hard to get out of. Thanks for your comment! Much appreciated
I don't feel it serves anyone well who has been catfished, calling themselves a victim. It's a disempowering mindset. besides, she was a victim to herself already before this happened, that's why it happened. she was taught a big lesson. truth is if she would have had an ounce of self worth she would not have been fooled so LONG by ridiculous behavior. Edit: catfishing should absolutely NOT be illegal. what's the crime... lying? LOL
Good points here, I think with prosecution, it really does depend on the extent of the catfishing and how far it goes, the people involved, possible consequences etc..
Guys let's get a conversation going here, do you think Kirat was gullible or was she right to have done what she did? Why do you think Simran (allegedly) do all of this? Enter your thoughts below, like this video and subscribe if you haven't already! Also if you like this video, perhaps check this video out for more Netflix related content: ruclips.net/video/nYUEpYzRvk0/видео.html
I don’t care if she was gullible. She may have been very sheltered, and the situation ramped up slowly over time which normalized things for her. She’s a victim.
Her cousin saw a weakness and exploited it.
This case fills me with rage. It’s insane that Simran spent so much time ruining her cousin’s life and for what? Also, Kirat frustrates me. She ignored every single red flag. Kirat couldn’t go and see Bobby in witness protection but Simran can? Bobby can have a baby with his ex and Kirat is okay with still being with him? I don’t understand her thought process.
I totally agree, the red flags were the ones but I guess she had the rose tinted glasses on and she so wanted Bobby to be real so went that far with it, sad really and such a shame. Thanks for commenting! If you haven't already, please like and subscribe, thank you!!
I watched this doc the other day and I laughed the minute she mentioned how he was shot and sent to America on witness protection like that's complete BS, nobody ever tells you they're on that program but I guess she was gullible to believe it
That’s cuz you can’t understand crazy! She’s nuts! Sorry, not sorry, but she is! Only a delusional person would go along with this for years!
@@GazzaSinghGI agree! Probably she was vulnerable which made her fall for it. And that's exactly why she has come out to share her story so other women don't fall for it. Although she's a victim nothing to be ashamed or guilty. She's doing something noble of putting her story out there to warn others.
Kirat being a Radio representer n being Naive……people l can’t buy this as she was in a relationship with another guy for 18 yrs 😮.No confidence n no self value that is is my conclusion.ln today’s era of Technology No face time or video call shud hav been Red flags
Simran was an incredible villain. She knew all of Kirat’s vulnerabilities and triggers and understood how to use them against Kirat. So all of Fake Bobby’s excuses and personas were so calculated it would have made it incredibly difficult for Kirat to decipher what is real and what’s not. It was tailored for Kirat. It’s easy for us to be in disbelief of how someone can get sucked into something like this - but the strategy/tactics weren’t tailored to you! Would you not 2nd guess yourself when you have multiple people online (Fake bobby’s cousins) and your own cousin Simran painting a certain picture?
I think it’s really important to have empathy when discussing Kirat’s ‘gullibleness’
But why did she not request a video call? Makes no sense. Skype video facebook video or WhatsApp video call. Makes no sense
Both Simran n Kirat are psychopaths.l don’t think anyone is so gullible in today’s world and more so at their age.What Nonsense 10 yrs😳You are talking sense here
I’m sure she did but he always had some excuse. Funny thing is the girl was such a big fool, yet she refuses to admit that she was gullible! Denial! Major denial!
Simran really made up literally an entire fake persona but not only that, she embellished like a whole entire personal drama for fake Bobby and got him to type long messages just offloading his fake personal shit and issues with his fake interfering in laws, making it seem his first marriage broke down as the first wife got pregnant by someone else. I think Simran really lived these characters lives in her head or something.
Allegedly Simran has done this to other people so I think you're right with her head not being straight. Also thanks for commenting! Please smash the like button and subscribe if you haven't already, thanks! 😄
If you watch the old MTV catfish show, they usually make up other characters too it’s sick
I don’t believe in the concept of victim blaming here. She’s either really stupid or blatantly ignorant. Why didn’t she block him or report him if she was feeling that he didn’t want face time ? I’d never date anyone I cannot meet in person ?
Aha fair point!
Simran put almost more effort into this fake relationship than Kirat did. She must have been high on the power she had over Kirat's life, to have done this for so long. It's like the most extreme case of LARPing.
I think deep inside she knew something was off, i agree with you with procecusion with this case. Great video!
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Top content! I think I've nearly watched all of your videos now! 😅
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His vocal cords were operated on 😂 , what in the Jerry springer.
Thanks for upload jii
😂 vocal cords floored me
My feeling is that Kirat is still in “love” with Bobby. Her face, even at the end, when she knew all, lights up when she talked about “him”. These feelings run so deep. I love the podcast and all things on tortoise. ❤
I watched Vice documentary and ur video made some things more clear. 10 yrs, it's insane. Because emotional abuse can't be observed, in most cases it's considered to be not a big deal, but emotional abuse is way worse than physical. Kirat's believes, perception of family, herself were shattered to the roots. It's several years of good therapy. I believe this case should be the beginning of catfishing prosecution
Simran is way younger than Kirat. Probably she started it as fun but that endless power and control that she was feeling with time took over. I don't know the community well but I used to live in Kenya so I have some understanding. My guess would be - girls usually "don't have a say" and here she was ruling smb's life. Another thing that suprised me is that Simran opened up herself to Kirat
I also wonder how did Simran manage to live her life, work and be all these ppl the same time?
Anyway this case is shocking and big respect to Kirat that she opened it for the whole world. I hope it'll save lives of innocent people
Totally agree! Apparently Simran has done this to others too, might be a mental issue kind of thing. Thanks for the comment, please subscribe if you haven't done so already! More to come!
But the voice did it not sound like women voice 😅
Thanks for your insights, Gaza, yeah Simran is a complete psychopath and she's really intelligent. These kind of people are very successful in life and highly manipulative, I would love a professional psychological opinion on this kind of mind. Yeah Kirat is a bit gullible, desperate and wanted to believe that Sweet Bobby was real, that's my perception on the documentary and podcasts, I believe in what you said about the fact that Simran should be prosecuted by both Kirat and Bobby. Just liked and subbed.
You are a legend, thank you for commenting and subscribing! I agree with your assessment, allegedly Simran has done this to other people so she could very well be mentally unstable 👀
@GazzaSinghTV yeah there are people out there like her and I doubt Kirat will be her last victim, I hope she is stopped before she ends up upsetting the wrong person but then again imagine if she catfished someone who has advanced havking skills 😲 but then she'd deserve all the come uppance then 😆 Thanks for replying and giving my comment a ❤️
i know someone who pretended to be in a relationship for years
by using two phones and they would message themselves and reply
we only came to light when they left their phone unlocked and their mother had a look the messages where about them meeting each other the night before at home
but i myself was in that house the night before and her mother was in for the whole night so their was no way they could have met the night before
after her mother asked her about it
she confessed they had two phones and was messaging herself it had been going on for years
she even was talking about a wedding and making plans and every time her mother was asking to meet her man he was always away so of course she was suspicious
It's crazy that this can happen, I fear a lot has happened that we don't know about, appreciate your comment!
wow that is wild
@@GazzaSinghG I have a feeling the girl wanted to be in a relationship as all her peers where getting on with their lives and having boy friends and settling down
but I don't think she thought it through that by saying she was in a relationship its not going to attract a boy friend for her
I’m first! lol watched it last night and I’m like 🥴😳no way this woman is this gullible
Legend! Thanks so much! If you haven't done so already, please subscribe! I can totally understand where you're coming from, it's a tough spot to be in
She held on to get the Romeo cardiologist even if it’s scraps of him and the more she saw nothing of him the more she built that dreamy perception of him virtually and mentally. Btw a close knit community is commensurate with in bred community! You need to question whether we can think for ourselves without holy books and scriptures, cultures and tradition …generations like Simiran are a product of her insular living and the grandfather and the rest of her clan in which she was nurtured are as to blame for her becoming…. she lived her real self virtually and another according to the traditions demanded by her surrounding !
New subscriber, great video. Very interesting
Thank youuuuuu!
This was wild AF
Hi! I'm a new subscriber. I have a channel myself, but not successful like yours. It was very insightful to hear your opinions and thoughts. You added a lot to the conversation. This story was so fascinating to me. Thanks for making this video!
Thank you so much! Appreciate your feedback and I will definitely keep an eye on your channel too!
Enjoyed your review ..fantastic 👍..even though simran is nothing but a narcissst and psychopath..Kirat should take some accountability for her gullible behaviour ..Also it’s almost like kirat wanted to live in this fantasy so desperately and maybe she still hasn’t even separated the fake from real Bobby ..
Yeah Simran defo is a bit of a psycho and I agree with you in terms of being gullible but once you're in that storm it is hard to get out of. Thanks for your comment! Much appreciated
I don't feel it serves anyone well who has been catfished, calling themselves a victim. It's a disempowering mindset. besides, she was a victim to herself already before this happened, that's why it happened. she was taught a big lesson. truth is if she would have had an ounce of self worth she would not have been fooled so LONG by ridiculous behavior. Edit: catfishing should absolutely NOT be illegal. what's the crime... lying? LOL
Good points here, I think with prosecution, it really does depend on the extent of the catfishing and how far it goes, the people involved, possible consequences etc..
Scary
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