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I mean, Levy said in most dimensions invincible joins omni man, so he got ALOT more cruel memories regarding invincible after scrambling his brain. And even though he was in a dimension where invincible didnt join omni man, he still tried to stop levys plan to save the world (unknowingly). I think that would be convincing enough to believe that invincible is fated to be an asshole.
We talk about that like 30 seconds into the discussion
@@msbkaioken136 there was nothing arrogant about it
@@msbkaioken136 how is that arrogant or snarky lmao
@@msbkaioken136 pretty sure he just pointed out that already mentioned that in the video coz you know? People dont watch the discussion part, dunno how that is arrogant at all
@@msbkaioken136 ah yes, you could totally hear the annoyance just from reading the text from the screen, he didnt use any punctuation because he is annoyed. So can you also guess my mood and zodiac sign using the number of punctuation marks I use in my sentences?
I dunno man, I still dont get how you proved something at all or what you proved at all. I mean, hearing a tone in reading text through a screen is still quiet something I guess. I'm super sure people can 100% do that accurately
*Edit* : I just noticed how you Psychoanalyzed his reasoning for the reply as well. LMFAO! I can't breathe, not only did you hear a non-existent tone that only you can hear, you also unironically think that somehow you know what his emotion and reasoning for typing those letters
Respect Invincible. This comic was written WAY before Rick and Morty was even thought of. Also, Mark has known he was a Viltrumite ever since he was a kid. Remember Omniman told him that he would get powers at some point and explained their race to him. What he didn’t know, was exactly what Viltrumites ACTUALLY do bc Omni man lied about it.
This isn't about Angstrom. He isn't the main villain. The main villain right now is Mark's trauma and fear of becoming his father. The narrative that Angstrom brings can help address his internal struggle.
Trolling the audience with the invincible drop is so good lol.
Was pretty good lol
Did y'all watch atom eve
I think yall will be very excited with where this season goes. Season 1 adapts the worst material in the comics, it only gets better and better from here.
I read the first chapter of invincible I hated it the design and everything but this show is good maybe if read into it more the design will get better?
ok thank you I might start reading it again to see it through@baseball_tomorrow194
@@bhbot6277it starts at about 5 and goes up to 11 by what will be season three.
That’s really reassuring to hear
Sounds great!
Season 1 is still a good 9/10
Remember, Angstrom said in *most* other dimensions, Mark went evil. So it's not just the Angstrom from the alt universe at the beginning whose memories he got, he got the memories of who knows how many other Angstroms that came from other "evil Mark" universes. The amount of memories he has of Mark being a vicious, bloodthirsty monster outweighs the amount of memories of him being a benevolent superhero.
Yes, that's exactly what Lindsay said in the post-reaction discussion of the episode.
Well, Image started publishing Invincible in 2003. As Kirkman often points out, many of the superhero deconstruction concepts (perhaps by now some have even tropes as they’ve become so common in other stories) first appeared in Invincible up to 20 years ago.
Immortal is totally traumatize by his point of view all the violence and death he saw in season 1 happened in two days. If someone needs time off its him
That’s a really good point
This isn't his first rodeo though, he is somewhat desensitized to violence and death at this point given his age. He was a raging maniac for a few minutes, but he probably needed significantly less time to move on.
@@jd1800 Immortal may be desensitized but he isn’t Omniman. The day he becomes that desensitized is the day you worry. Actually even Nolan isn’t as bad as he could be.
You are right Immortal has had to cope with a lot of things. The fact that he hasn’t prejudged Mark is reasonable. That said if there was another option he should get time off
@@jd1800you don't just forget someone that killed you twice
@@PewPewShootEmUp I didn't say he would forget. People don't deal with trauma by forgetting it happened.
Rick and Morty came out like 10 years after the comic issue Levy first appeared in, so, if anything, Rick and Morty's portals are actually Invincible portals and not the other way around.
if y’all haven’t had a chance yet, i highly recommend the special atom eve episode!!
In the comics Amber was dumb. Classic cheetleader type. She suspected Mark od being a drug dealer. Trying to make her smart and they stumbled in the implementation.
I think you guys will enjoy the show more by letting it tell its story. When you’re predicting what you think might happen, you’re missing what the current plot is setting up.
They watch the episode, they just love theorizing and guessing what could come, then what it actually does they can see how accurate they were while at the same time enjoying the show.
When it comes to the "knowledge from all multiverse selfs"-concept i can't stop thinking about the first time i came across it with byakuran from katekyo hitman reborn who is straight up portrayed as an angel figure that improves the multiverse with the knowledge he has from every of his multiverse selfs, but is the antagonist because it's from the perspective of a mafia family... and the tiny fact that absolute power seems to corrupt.
Just finished up with reading the comic and honestly the series just gets way better as it goes on.
If I recall correctly, Eve only said she wasn't going to go to college. I think she's still going to finish high school even if she doesn't need to since they were already so close to finishing anyway.
Oh that’s my bad then
I love hearing your guys’ theories. I loved season one cause me and many friends were coming up with the wildest shit every episode and finale was so good. Now that I’ve read it and know what it’s leading to it’s not as fun. But nice to see how they change things and portray what Im looking forward to seeing.
Literally the whole episode they mention that in most dimensions Mark became a monster and even showed an example at the beginning of the episode and continued to show and zoom the camera on the Angstrom from the dimension that became an example.
Mauler says "you are lost in memories and don't know which are yours and which came from others"
Angstrom said "he killed so many people I loved"
People when in the end Angstrom wanted revenge - "What? Mark? Why? Oh, these typical villains without reason and logic."
This is amazing. Angstrom Levy is being set up to be such an interesting antagonist for this season and now he is a hivemind. He was such a good person.. but what he did was too risky, and unfortunatley.. they did this at the wrong time, and now Angstrom Levy has become a sort of abomination...
I think this was a strong start and I am so glad that Amber is being a W so far. I also do think Omni-Man will come back.
But this is completely amazing.. and I am scared for Invincible.. I wonder what the Mauler is also going to do he is the last remaining Mauler it seems..
Also, where was William? I'm surprised we didn't see him in this episode..
This reaction was amazing. I definitely can't wait to see you guys react to the rest :D
Rex was actually trying to be nice, you can tell because he's not insulting anyone and saying positive words, he just sounds super condescending/mocking.
The whole amber fiasco in season 1 could've been avoided if she actually would've been portrayed as a flawed teenager. She could've been shown making those bad choices out of insecurity and false bravado, but instead those choices were portrayed as the "right" choices made from confidence. She could've been a young "thinks to know it all"-type that grows and learns, but instead again constantly reinforced that she's in the "right". The disregard of flaws is what made her unbearable and that didn't actually change so far.
I’d understand what you meant if Amber weren’t in the right for dumping mark. Whether or not she knew his identity beforehand didn’t change the fact that mark was a bad bf, that’s all the motivation she needed to finally dump him after giving him chance after chance. Mark simply couldn’t be a good superhero while also fulfilling his role as a bf, it was literally the best option for both of them at the time. Only reason she’s back with him is to support him emotionally after what happened with his dad.
Yes, if her reasoning would've been about it being disfunctional or mark not comitting to either her or hero work i wouldn't have anything to say about that specifically, but she snaps at him responding to an emergency endagering everyone right infront of them. That's the drop that spilled it and she is not "right" for doing it on that. It would be understandable if she didn't know about his hero work, but admitting she knew yet constantly tormented him because "it made her feel supid" is not "right".
All fine if it's a teenager doing mistakes, but unbearable everytime the show or someone like you thinks it's "right".
@@cyborgboy9854while i can argee with you to a certain extent, her knowing beforehand *does* change things. The fact is a bf and a bf who's a super hero *can't* be held to the same standards. So if she didnt know, the thought that "he's the worst bf ever and I'm going to dump him" are completely fair, but if she does know, there are only two possible "right" responses imo.
1. "I didnt sign up for this"- dumps him
2. "By willingly staying with him, this is what I'm signing myself up for and i have to change my standards"- understands
Heck, amber herself seems to understand this in season 2 episode 3.
Spoilers if you havent watched it yet.
In the episode, mark calls amber telling her that hes going away to another planet. He says that he's sorry and she tells him not to spillover and basically says exqctly what i said the 2nd possible "right" response is. "Dont apologize. This was part of the deal and i signed up for it" basically
The show doesn't say she was in the right basically only William and Eve agree he wasn't a good bf and he was bound to be dumped which both are just true
Banger first episode were in for a ride this season hopefully 🤧
Bulletpoof's suit is the first one Mark tried when Looking for a suit to wear.
For an edit, think that opening with "and this is - INVINCIBLE - season 2, would have been fun, but I'm glad to have this series back!
I like that there still doing the title card gag, does anyone know on what days the episodes air?
Friday i think !
They come out on prime at 8pm ET Thursdays
thanks@@TheFlannelDeath
8:03 - the point is that these portals appeared in the comic invisible, which is 10 years older than Rick and Morty
Angstrom and his portals, first appeared (looking pretty much like in the adaptation, but more detailed) in 2004... _almost a decade_ before Rick and Morty (and a couple years before Doc and Mharti, though if I recall correctly there were no portals in that), so if anything someone involved in the production of Rick and Morty might have been influenced by Angstrom Levy, rather than the other way around... though the similarities are probably more likely to be just a coincidence.
Everyone's been saying it but all this multiverse stuff is coming from issues that were written/drawn/released from like 2003-2005, so Invincible was doing multiverse stuff *first* It's only unfortunate coincidence that the show has only now started to get to that material while everyone is under "multiverse fatigue"
22:13 yeah, or maybe, and just hear me out here, maybe now that Amber isn't constantly being jerked around lied to and stood up, shes actually happy in the relationship 🤔? Just a thought.
I do really like the idea of a superhero's girlfriend realising a secret identity on her own. Especially because in most cases it would be pretty obvious. But yeah the execution on the idea is kinda horrible.
Also I've never seen you talk about avatar the last airbender before, the talk about strong female representation reminded me about it. If neither of you have seen it I strongly recommend it.
@@msbkaioken136Some of the reaction was indeed unwarranted, but I really did not see any of it until the scene where she tells him she already knew.
It really made little sense to do that, the concept is very very good, the execution was indeed very very bad. Just changing that one small detail would pretty much fix most of the negative reaction. She could still not get back with Mark just because he told her.
But the recontextualization of the events at the university was the real issue. That is what made a lot of people dislike her.
I disagree. It was indeed vey bad. Her reaction at the university didn't make any sense with the new context.
The previous episode really didn't seem to work together with her already knowing. It was really bad because it should have only been one or the other. Either she knows or she reacts differently during the events at the university.
To be clear her reaction doesn't have to be being happy, but a different kind of reaction was warranted if she knew. I genuinely think it was a continuity mistake for her to already knowing nd her reaction.
@@cronicasdeltiempo7540 something I noticed is it has to do with how Mark and Amber are presented. Mark is shown to be a bit of a fuck up and a bit of a dumbass so whenever he fucks something or makes a dumb teenager mistake it doesn't really stand out much cause its whats expected plus hes the main character. Amber is generally presented as intelligent and capable so when she fucks up or does a dumb teenager thing it stands out more. So thats why her doing something so typical of a teenager like what happened with the college seems odd cause she isn't shown that way usually like Mark is.
You should watch the special episode, it's important. About Eve
We watched it but we didn’t like it so we decided not to post our reaction
@@BOLDcast It was poorly written and weirdly paced. Even the more "boring" episodes of season 1 were more engaging and better written than Eve's special. The only good thing about it was the choreography of Eve's fighting and I hope that transfers onwards in season 2.
I can't believe some people were saying that Eve's special was "God tier" and "Peak fiction", I was so worried for season 2 after watching it because of it's poor execution. So much potential in a side story but so little effort. If they ever make more specials then I hope they are written better and paced well.
@@jonathanmasilela1569wow I didn’t even know there were people who DIDN’T like the episode, it was pretty solid in my opinion. What made the episode “not engaging”?
Im surprised people didn't like the special. I personally loved it. It was tied with season 1 episode 5 for 3rd best episode in the show(best being episode 8 and 2nd best being episode 7)
Amber in the comics is worse than season 1 amber :) so enjoy haha
This isn't comics Amber. Comics Amber was background, barely a character. Maybe they overcorrected by giving this Amber _too much_ personality in season one, but better a character you don't like than a non-character, I believe.
12:10 how did I miss Bobby???? The single strongest entity in this show apparently...
This season will be cinema
One thing, when Eve decided to ditch school, she said she has accumulated enough points to graduate. So she still plans to at least graduate high school, and maybe her coming to school here has something to do with that.
its a two door system didnt you see robot open the inside door on the first season?
Yeah there was more to their escape than what we were saying. It was just a big thing we laughed about in season 1. We figured the security system of that super prison wasn’t really thought through very well (obviously understanding that the reason it has holes is so that there can be a fun escape sequence, but we were just having a laugh)
Nah you can tell they didn't use the comic book amber because shes not a bland generic background character who is kinda dumb.
bland background character vs annoying toxic character give me the bland one
One thing I noticed on second viewing is: where did Cecil get his new #2 from?
That’s what I said! Wtf did Donald get cloned or some shit?
Given they can make literal invisble air, i think cloning isnt out of the question
@@BOLDcast I’m thinking it’d be cool if Cecil has a stockroom full of just Donalds, but he just releases one at a time so he always has a Donald on hand
16:50 I heard this guy on a Dunkin Donuts Spotify ad
You pair are a lot of fun to listen to
Immortal was totally justified in his reaction given his experience with Omniman.
I hope when Immortal learns the truth about Mark he tells him. I feel like Immortal can relate to the immortality
What? Not at all, he should go to therapy before joining the guardians again after watching his friends brutally die and then dying himself twice in the span of like a week.
@@anitaremenarova6662 I agree. Unfortunately the new Guardians are making mistakes causing casualties. We just saw Rudy nearly get stepped on because he froze. There really isnt much of a choice but Immortal
They never let Robert Kirkman cook with his original works 😭
I don't mess with amber my G,amber be tweaking 😅
Lol yall really misjudged the whole amber situation huh, can't believe you thought they'd make her more like the comic. Robert Kirkman has said he wants to take the chance to fix stuff he wasn't happy about in the comics no way they turn amber into her comic version.
Haven't watched it, but I bet their first theory is that he's dreaming.
yup 😂
@@penguin50279 It's been funny watching different reactions, and see them follow the same stages:
Oh, they're training
Wow, getting a bit aggressive there
Huh, Omni-Man? Mark must be dreaming.
This dream sequence is really taking its time...
@@MasteringJohn ik it’s so funny
I’m finally early
I'm glad you two pieced it together that Angstrom Levy's scrambled mind is mostly made of alternate Levys that hate a cruel version of Invincible.
I had the same thoughts regarding the huge change in Amber's character from season 1. It does seem like the writers caught some backlash. They really made adjustments on Amber going from a narrative tool into an actual girlfriend.
FYI: There is also an Atom Eve episode released as well.
@@msbkaioken136 You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but all that anger, rudeness, and denial never comes off well. Good luck on that.
As long as she gives no problems this season then it's fine I just really hope she's solely supportive this season i mean what else could she contribute other than emotional support
@@somerandommenace dont worry. She will get out of the picture soon enough. Should be by the end of this season.
the show did his trauma from what happened in season 1 WAYYYY better than the comjc did. almost felt like it didnt even matter in the comic after it happened
I’ve been binge reading the comics and it really is sad what season 1 did to Amber. They have a lot of the same arguments but it’s soo much more understandable from her perspective. Also the way she goes about it never truly feels bitchy. Just feels like real doubts, concerns and arguments most people would have in those scenarios. They definitely seem to be making her more like Amber in the comics so far which is awesome to see
Mark may not be invincible but even Omniman couldnt break him.
I feel most Marks in the multiverse submitted to Omniman
I really encourage you guys to read the comics, especially in regards to Amber. I think you guys would enjoy some further context... like, on a lot of things lol. No need to read past what hasn't been seen in the show, but at least up to this point.
you on the other side(dimention) is still you...
that not how multiverse works
anything can be different
You skipped the Atom Eve special episode ;-;
Ah nevermind guess you did it on Patreon.
@@thedestroyersinofpride7101nope I checked and they haven’t yet
In a reply to another comment they said they didn't like it (!?), so they won't post the reaction. 🤷♂️
Where’s ep 2 and 3?
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I feel like Amber just realized that it wasn‘t about her. She was so mad at Mark cause…he lied to her, and she didn‘t see the bigger picture before. I don‘t even think the bigger picture absolves Mark of everything, but at least they‘re having a good time now. Also Amber was never as shitty as people make her out to be, she just didn‘t seem worth our and Mark‘s time.
amber finally realized she's not entitled to everything mark has going on in his life
Almost none of the Amber hate is founded.
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Heads up, as great of a villain as Nolan was, he's far from the best villain in this series. Angstrom is definitely one of the best given his vast intelligence coupled with his thirst for revenge and even then it's debatable if he's even the best villain this series has to often. Angstrom will become a villain you love to hate. Truly a great aspect for a villain if you ask me. The stuff he puts Mark through lead to some intense moments of trauma and character progression.
I wonder in how many dimensions Mark got his powers so late. I think Omni man probably started propagandizing him sooner in most.
Amber was nice to Mark a lot in the previous season but everyone understandably only remembers the massive fuckup the changes in writing did for her at the end there.
There were moments where she was nice, but I guess my points about real intimacy and being on the “same team” were just not there as a result of their portrayal of the character. (Again not an expert since I haven’t read the comics)
@@BOLDcast I think your memories of the early season 1 just got tainted by the latter parts. They were intimate and clicked quite well up until the college fiasco. I guess I just don't see a massive shift in her character so far but time will tell.
I disagree about Amber her main issue was being lied to while I strongly disagree with how they portrayed that in episode 6-7 if that truly was her main issue then being honest literally is the solution.
Anyone else kinda hoping every season 2 reaction wraps up with an Amber rant? 😆
Im sorry PROTESTERS????
Ya'll really gotta keep in mind that the comic is like 20 years old and partially invented some more common tropes which exist nowadays.
And having read said comic around ⅔ of the way through, the show is sticking very close to the comic, when it comes to the main story.
Basically, if you think a storyline or visual was influenced by stuff that came out over the last 13 odd years, chances are, they weren't.
First
I feel like with amber in season 1 there wasn't enough room to see her at anything but her worst giving a bad taste, rather than being closer to the comics
man i miss the comic industry satire from the comics they like just ditch it generally
Debbie in the comics gets less of a focus, but at this point in the story she is more pathetic than she is here. She is still in denial about Nolan (TBF comic Nolan isn't as monstrous though), her alcoholism is worse, and she says something hurtful to Mark while drunk. I wouldn't say I disliked her, because I can sympathize with her, but I liked her less than this Debbie.
In the comic, I remember Amber cheated on Mark emotionally after she find out Mark is invincible and left him for the other guy who was an abuser and Mark had to 'talk to that guy' and Amber forgave that guy and took that abuser back ...so...I don't think she was the "human is good" part of mark's life...
I believe cartoon Amber is a huge miscommunication...IMO, when Amber said "I knew you are a super hero" is not really trying to show she is smart but to show she is stubborn. She didn't really know, she might have suspect but there is no way she actually know for sure until Mark told her. I think the writer trying to communicate that Amber was still angry about being lied to and will say anything to justify the anger but regret really quick. She also just said she want to be alone, didn't really breaking up with him. She need time to clam down. Especially you can see when Mark left, She look out and stared with anger then changed to soft looking really quickly.
This is why sometime, too much subtlety is no always good for a show.
like when Eve trying to hug or kiss Mark after they defeat Dr. women study and earth quick, then Mark took off before she could do anything and Eve was visibly sad. From what I know, most people missed that subtle part...
In Amber's mind, his boyfriend either left her and run away while she was in danger or rather let her think he is a coward than trust her with his real identity. and she probably think Mark has always been lying to her including pretending to be weak and let the bully beat him so he can get her attention. because Amber didn't know Mark got his power after those event, for what she knew, Mark has always been a super hero. That is why she said "you made me feel stupid".
However, it was a try and fail for sure. I don't hate season 1 Amber as much as most people. Not the biggest fan of her but don't think she deserve that level of hate.
I think she was a compilated character, she was more real than what I would think a cartoon character is.
In real life, if I know my boy friend is a super hero and just lied to me this whole time when I have no idea why he is always missing; my first reaction probably won't be very happy either...I would understand why and won't blame him for anything, but I probably will still not be very happy to be lied to this entire time and won't just say something like"wow, you are sacrificing your life to save others, I am so proud of you". then make love with him (comic Amber did) I don't think that is realistic. I think after a day or two, I might think that way, but at that moment? I doubt anyone can change their emotion that quickly...
I don't think the writers trying to make Amber "strong and smart" I think they trying to make her have some emotional flaws like stubbornness and always trying to look tough, I believe they think that will make her more grounded, but many people did not take it that way..
The writers should've made it clear as to what they were trying to do with her character. 'Cause I still think that she's crazy and that Mark should dump her.
Now don't get me wrong here Amber has been awesome for most of season 1 but that nonsense she pulled in episode 7 of season 1 left a nasty taste in my mouth.
@@jonathanmasilela1569 I think the writer think people should understand what they was going for...well, they were wrong.
they under estimated how many people will think characters in a show should have the same level of information of the viewer.
Let's actually think what Amber was going through...
when Mark left her when she was in danger, she already suspect Mark might be a superhero, she knew the guy who saved her was most likely Mark, but when confront him, Mark still lied and rather her think he left her to die than trust her with his identity.
Or she was wrong and Mark is not the hero who saved her, Mark really left her there to die.
no matter which was the truth, it will hurt.
then Mark still not tell her his identity until she want to break up with him.
Mark confessed not because he trusted her but don't want to lose her.
that is not charming or cute, that is hurtful.
So she was still angry but she has a flaw, which is always want to looks level headed when she clearly wasn't.
that is why they showed her sadness the night before and the soft sad face after Mark flew out of the window, and that is why she didn't really say "we are breaking up" but ask Mark fly away and leave her alone. she just need time to clam down.
That was never a true break up and that is why she went to Mark in the end of the season.
The writer try to make her more grounded...but it a bit too much and forget many viewer are so use to "if you know someone is a hero, you will forgive them for everything".
Mark was a shitty boy friend. he is a great guy and a kind hero, but a very shitty boy friend to Amber.
This is a more realistic writing for relationship.
In real life, if you keep ignore your partner, even the reason is justified, but you keep lying about it, your partner wouldn't be happy when they finally found it out no matter by themselves or some other way.
but many people don't want realistic relationship, they want Amber be the regular GF of a hero, just supporting our hero and forgive him when his reason to be a bad boy friend is justified.
They want Amber be like Debbie.
Don't get me wrong, I love Debbie, but she is just too perfect for a mother or a wife of hero, but we all know what she got in the end...
a broken heart and drinking problems.
I like how Amber challenged my thought, challenged the "he is being bad boy friend, but he had no choice to sacrifice me to save people, so I should forgive him" thing.
Many hero are shitty boy friends or husbands. especially in this show, including Mark...at least for now.
because I know what arc Mark probably will have since I read the comic...
I never shipped Mark and Amber, but I don't think anyone is wrong, Mark was not wrong but he was a shitty BF, justified, still shitty.
Amber's reaction is not outrages, it is actually make sense if you think from her view with information she knows at that time.
@@RebuswindFINALLY someone who gets it. You said it perfectly. The thing is, I get how most people wouldn’t immediately understand the nuance of why Amber still persisted in breaking up with mark even after he revealed his identity. But the overhate for her ONE slip up in the show (after literally being shown to be an awesome person with all her volunteer work and also being really forgiving with mark slip up after slip up) while being completely understanding of other characters’ mistakes or questionable moral actions set me OFF. Especially after what I considered a drastic improvement from the comic’s version of Amber (when the frat guy said he had a gf and she left the part I can’t tell you how relieved I was 😅).
@@Rebuswind um mark does NOT owe amber a damn thing, especially with the scecret Identity thing, you'r partner is NOT entitled to your biggest secret, that is very toxic and unrealistic... and no that doesnt make mark shitty for telling her, if anything this amber partner thinking she's entitled to that. only thing mark did wrong dating a toxic person like amber
@@MRGooodwineTV no one said anyone one owe anything. You have right to keep secrets, I have right to not be happy with it. What you are asking is for Amber to forgive Mark just because you personally think Mark's reason being a shitty boyfriend is justified. Amber did nothing wrong, she did not ask Mark stop doing what he does, she didn't not force him to tell her anything, he decided not to trust her and he got the consequences.
No body is entitled to any secret, in the same time, no body is entitled to be forgive of lying just because the thing they are lying about is not a bad thing.
Just try it in life, try to lie about a good thing and see if people will be forgiven just like that when they found out.
You don't have to tell your partner anything, but you also don't have right to ask for forgiveness and get it just because you think the thing you are lying for is justified.
You still lied when you don't need to.
The very fact Mark did tell Amber means he could have done that from beginning.
And again, Amber never even break up with Mark, she asked to be alone for sometime to process it.
The only way you think it doesn't make sense is due to you are thinking as a viewer not the character. You think Amber knows when did Mark get super power and everything he went through.
How do Amber know what else Mark was hiding from her?
If you break the trust, you break the trust no matter the reason.
Can't wait for Amber and Mark's break-up like in the comics. She's worse than the comic version.
Worse is crazy. What did she even do wrong. 😑
Well, no Atom Eve episode, no reason to continue following this here then.
We watched it and didn’t like it.
@@BOLDcast Wow, hot take. lol
@@Dark__Thoughtsthis special only needs to tell about her power, nothing else. Her backstory with Rex is far better. Hope we’ll get it
@@BOLDcastyou guys are the only people I seen that say they didn't like it what yall didn't like about it
Levi is in the wrong
The Maulers were right. Why didn’t he just ask? How the problems were solved in different universes. Hell he could have read up on the issues and solutions thru books
Even his deformity was foreseen by the Maulers. He was just too arrogant to see it
I wonder if we meet a less arrogant Levy who isn’t deformed and created his utopia
I wouldn’t say so.
Asking everyone individually would not only be a long arduous process, it would be impossible to effectively memorize and comprehend all that information in a normal human brain in any understandable amount of time, especially just from explicit knowledge.
To effectively produce change at the scale Levy was looking for he’d need the complete implicit knowledge of his other selves. There’s a reason the mauler twins do it in the first place. Transferring the knowledge directly would have been leagues faster and more efficient than trying to teach all their knowledge to a clone.
@@cyborgboy9854Wow. You are really just replying to everyone in this comment section with the WORST takes. You seem like you’re just a contrarian lol
@@devin6079 The fact your responded without replying to what I actually said kinda makes me thing I’m right. If you think I’m a contrarian for the sake of it, hb prove it?
@@cyborgboy9854 I’m simply talking about you replying to everyone in the comment section just to disagree with whatever they said lol
@@devin6079 And I’m simply saying I’m not disagreeing just to disagree, I’m disagreeing because I think my opinion is correct or at least more correct. Nor do I have the worst takes. I’m also saying the fact that all you’re saying is I’m disagreeing just to disagree and my takes are the worst without actually proving either makes me think I’m probably not a contrarian, you’re just redundant.
I do like that Amber is being nice now, but it still doesn't sit right, her characterization is still wildly inconsistent. Literally all it would take to fix this is one scene where she admits she was lying: She didn't know he was a superhero, but she bluffed because she was hurt and wanted to hurt him back, and she's sorry about that.
If they have like... a 30 second scene addressing that issue, she would be completely fixed for me.
@@msbkaioken136i think the main reason she's hated is the fact that she failed to realize the value and importance of why Mark had to do what he did. She placed her feelings over everything else and thought it was justified because of how mark made her feel. Its pretty ridiculous especially with how she reacted as well. Totally understandable why majority of people were put off.
@msbkaioken136 I can't say I agree. One scene can and regularly does make or break characters, especially when that scene is a climactic turning point in their relationship with other characters. Especially especially considering that in this case the scene in question ends up retroactively making her far less charitable and likeable for SEVERAL preceding scenes.
That single scene in episode 7 of the first season DID ruin Amber entirely for a LOT of people. Mark may have been lying to her, but he wasn't doing it out of disrespect, he was doing it for the very well-trodden and understood reason of superheroes keeping their loved ones safe.
Her being mad at him in that scene is justifiable. She can snap and be angry in the moment when he tells her the truth, but that doesn't make her justified for all the times she yelled at him for not being on time when she knew full well that there was a good reason he was late/absent.
She could and probably should have confronted him with the truth several different times, but she didn't. Instead, she kept expecting him to come clean while constantly putting their relationship on the rocks and creating a situation where he's LESS likely to tell her the truth. That one scene makes her a full-on bad person, and season 2 is just changing lanes and acting like everything is totally good now. It's jarring considering the elephant in the room of her genuinely terrible behavior is just unaddressed for the time being.
@@msbkaioken136 There's a time for your feelings to take the wheel and be the main thing of focus. But when you've just heard that the reason why my boyfriend has been late and not being 100% truthful is because hes SAVING LIVES then your maturity level should reflect that context. A rational person regardless of feelings would take time to understand what had just been said. In general people dislike people who are incapable of restraining their feelings in times of dire importance. Its like a person having road rage because there are ambulances loading people up on the highway after a crash. Your feelings are very small compared to the importance of the other thing. Thats what happened between mark and amber.
@@msbkaioken136 My issue isn't with the character's emotions, it's with the writing and the way the narrative treats it.
I completely understand and think it's actually pretty in-character for Amber to act like she did: She's always been kinda headstrong and self-important, pushing others into getting what she wants from them, even as far back as the first couple of episodes.
I'll backpedal a little from my earlier comment: Amber isn't a full-on bad person, but when it comes to this particular situation, she was unequivocally terrible to Mark in the EXACT way she accused him of being terrible to her.
That's a good character, and it's a good flaw for her to have. it SHOULD make for good drama between them. They both have flaws and did things wrong in season 1, and that's good character writing.
The issue is that this... hasn't caused any drama, at least not yet. Mark just doesn't bring up the fact that Amber knew and was manipulating him just as much if not more than he was lying to her. She just runs back over, kisses him and says 'I wanna be together again' without either of them discussing the still-present issue of their honesty with one another, and then they're just... fine. She's nice, sweet, happy, and accepting of him being her superhero boyfriend instantly in season 2.
Now they absolutely CAN still fix this, as I said in my first comment: have her admit to her flaws and that she was in the wrong. Mark should and almost certainly would also apologize for his dishonesty as well. We just need a scene of her looking back on her mistakes and acknowledging them as such in order for this new happy, stable relationship of theirs to really make sense to me.
I say Amber, specifically, needs to admit to her flaws, because Mark has already been raked over the coals, both in a broader narrative sense, and specifically by William and Eve after the breakup, for his fault in it. He was wrong to lie to her as long as he did, and she was right to be upset about it. Thus far, The story and characters haven't even acknowledged that Amber did anything wrong, but they have acknowledged and confronted Mark about it, so it feels like the show is saying Amber is the one in the right with regards to their conflict in season 1, and that doesn't sit right with a lot of viewers, myself included.
@@intendedexpression6609 I thought the main reason was cause she did the dumb teenager thing when she knew mark was a super hero and instead of just confronting him directly she kept trying to get him to tell her himself.
I still hate Amber 😭 I really hope they break up by the end of this season lol
I feel you man, I hate amber too
Hopefully that gaslighting, narcissist woman gets dumped so my girl eve can replace
I just can't get into this show
Then why are you here?
@@angramainyu9220 I like the reactors
Totally disagree with you on Amber. Now she's basically neutered and she WAS tender and kind to Mark before you just glossed over it. She thanks him for things he does (Like when he bought that gift for her and the Mars rock) for her and she was never "abusive" all she did was bring up when he would abandon her and question if he was serious. For me it seems weirdly misogynist to ever even claim she wanted to be worshipped for just threatening to leave and dump him.
she looks underage bro what are you doing with her
Your not funny