Just wanted to add; I think it's great that you're working and promoting this set-up. You obviously have the cash to buy a "flagship" set-up many times over, but this will allow a whole generation of aspiring dj's to get started with minimal outlay. Bravo, sir!
I've seen Luke perform to +400 000 people on his iPhone and the ravers of Paris were having the time of their lives during Techno Parade. It was mindblowing and legendary !!!
I love the fact that you can setup cue points on your songs through your phone, since it’s always so time consuming. It’s so convenient because next time you’re bored and waiting in line somewhere, instead of wasting time with entertainment to pass the time, you can continue to work on your craft since it’s all capable of being done at the touch of your fingertips. Glad you’re helping revolutionize this technology Laidback Luke. 🙌🏼
absolutely! As he said it - in the Pioneer universe you can now as well; with the paid system of Cloud Sync it works surprisingly well! I really love this feature! (being a Pioneer DJ now - not Reloop yet ;)) So "modern technic" yay!!!
Yes sir, thank you for highlighting that. It's been so convenient doing that and sorting tracklists as well. Not to mention putting new tracks in there, on the go, through Tidal!
@@laidbacklukeI am greatly inspired by your willingness to explore a set up that is 1st of all budget friendly, 2ndly considerably lighters which makes it easier on the set up crew 3rdly more reliable than Rekord box which I keep on hearing horror stories about, and as I am an Electronic Music Producer/DJ and a Tour Manager this makes my life much easier as a Tour Manager as the Pioneer CDJ 3000's are unreliable due to the plastic spindles supporting the Jog wheels (Good for repairs technicians, not so good for reliability) Keep it up
I absolutely love and admire how you embrace new technologies for your sets. I can relate to the "hate" you might get from the purists cause I've personally had my share of that first when I switched to CDs, and then when I started using traktor (even with vinyl timecode). It amazes me that some people still fail to understand that the gear is irrelevant at this point and what matters is that we keep the crowd happy, and the clubs packed. Thanks to you I re-discovered Denon and got myself a little Prime Go a couple of years ago. If the promoter can provide a Pioneer or a Denon set up I'll use it. If they can't I bring my traktor set up (two Kontrol D2's). And if its a small club or a smaller town where no "big" set ups are available for rent I just bring my Prime Go. And the crowd doesn't care as long as we keep delivering good music. I love to see you showcasing this newer set up too, it looks like a great option for portability and the app looks powerful too. Much love from Mexico!
Completely a game changer. I used to work in club scene more in the early 2010s (hiring/scouting out local talent to bring into places) - and always wanted to try djing. The pricing though (for a CDJ-mixer-CDJ) set up was too steep for me
I am impressed with this setup. Flexible and cheaper than traditional setups. I like you because you don't stick to a specific system but you constantly try new systems and technologies that suit you better. My opinion is that you are moving in the right direction. There will always be people who say that to be a DJ you have to play with cdjs or turntables, but they are stuck in the past. The world changes rapidly and you adapt accordingly. I always learn something new from you in each of your videos. I'm waiting for the next one! 🙂
Thank you Tonis, I really appreciate that! It just hit me at some point seeing that we do everything on our phones now. And using the phone as the brain of a setup, you could hook it onto any compatible setup you'd desire!
@@laidbacklukeLuke I think this is going on the right direction. It’s just that reloop needs to update the mixtour make it usb C bus power and Bluetooth ready. Can’t wait to see Djay pro sync playlist cross platform. Please let people know that you can plug your phone or ipad with Djay pro to CDJs as well. The whole Djay pro system is brilliantly designed. I will love to see you exploring all that in future videos!❤
I’m enjoying the Reloop mixtour for years now. I have about 11 mixers to choose from at home. Rotary mixers, controller mixers, vintage mixers and DIY rotary mixers but the mixtour is by comfort my number 1! Some years ago I bought 2 mixtours(1 as a backup) but a year ago I sold the second one, new and still in the box. I have never had trouble with the number 1(I even used it outdoors running on a powerbank for 13hours)
I would really like to see a 2023 mixtour with usbc to usbc to connect iphone or iPad, 4 more buttons for each deck so you don't have to press shift all the time and pushed rotary mixer buttons so you toggle on/off the stems. If you are not a scratch dj, iPad and a controller with audio interface is the best solution in my opinion.
I'm a mostly self taught DJ that took some pointers from your 'In the mind' series and fixed places I went wrong, and I've always loved your appreciation for technology. This is a cool video that even doubles as a mini tutorial. Definitely wanna check this out, at least for sake of never having to carry much when I don't have to. also "it's not about the kitchen, it's about the chef" really hits. Keep doing what you do man!
I really think djay Pro is going to increase in use. DJing off of your phone or tablet is going to be much more common especially since the app works so well with a lot of other DJ hardware.
Me myself switched from Traktor to DJay Pro AI some months ago. Since it also was my back up system I also have the Mixtour for a couple of years now already, actually shortly after it was released in early 2016 always loved the vision of an ultra portable yet powerful set up. Thing is I think the Mixtour has become a little bit outdated, cause it doesn‘t portray all the new amazing possebilites the app has to offer. Most of all I’m missing ways to control FXs and the presence of performance pads. So I had high hopes that Reloop was able to provide this with the Buddy and/or the Ready. What can I say…as much as I love the layout of those controllers I was shocked what a poor sound quality these controllers have. The Mixtour still sounds powerful and awesome und comparison after all these years. No competition! Ican only hope that with you on their team now, Reloop will take a new shot on releasing an ultra portable controller for all the key features of Djay Pro AI with professional sound quality and outputs.
Great points and I value you as a long time user! I've noted these points, as I've said before I'm doing R&D for Reloop too so any suggestions feel free to hit me on the DM on IG and I'll pas it along : )
This is such an excellent example that you don't need a million dollar controller or dj decks to be considered a pro level dj .. At the end of the day its all about playing good music that counts , and if your set up is as portable as this its such a great advantage...Not to long ago djs where only spinning records with no cue points ,no fx . no music selection at this level .. This would be considered a miracle not to long ago... The future looks bright for the new generation of djs and this videos is a great example of what's to come ..Great video Luke 👍
I learned how to dj from this app. Before I could buy a “proper” controller this app taught me the fundamentals. And those fundamentals translated into producing. It’s so cool to me to see it being used in a festival setting. The gear is just a tool to accomplish a task. How creative you get with what you have is what will always set you apart. I believe that everything you need is within reach. You just need to look for it and know how to look differently at it.
I love this video and its thoughtful explanation, which totally matches my feelings and I'm sure many others too. Thank you to Laidback Luke for putting this out. I'm sure it'll encourage new DJs to stick with what works for them, without feeling like they gotta conform to the old school Pioneer DJM900 and CDJs. Like a lot of people, I started out DJing with just an MP3 player and Virtual DJ - CDJs and Pioneers were totally unfamiliar to me. Even though over time there was pressure to switch to CDJs, they seemed outdated. So I went with the Reloop Mixtour instead for a more modern setup. Just unplug the RCAs from the mixer and you're good to go. For anyone commenting that the Mixtour only has 2 decks - Virtual DJ has four decks on software.
I LOVE the innovation and idea of this. Have been using my phone for the odd song request that I may not have, for years. BUT - I really have trouble depending on a phone or wifi connection for an entire night. Being in a major city, there's always always always, the chance of interference and signal drop. A phone with high capacity storage and tunes pre-loaded on it would work.
I have used traktor for many years and decided to buy the traktor z1, x2 and f1 controllers, have a digital setup, then I bought the traktor s8 where it reminded me that it was going to be the future of djing, the reloop mixtour with djay pro makes me remember even that, if I were to go from one software to another I would move with djay pro, now I am more familiar and together with your video it makes me still feel on point, many colleagues tell me that they would not feel comfortable without jogwheels but if they don't try and don't leave their comfort zone they will never know, a lot of respect for you Laidback Luke I have been following you for years and you are an inspiration
I was septic and at the end of your video I'm convince you are absolutely right. No comparaison With the price of Equipment today ease and simple all in one whaow Reeloop are in the game impressive.
I find the Z1 a bit limited: no library scrolling , poorly FX control; too much screen touching I use the Mixtour and Djay pro AI on IPad AND Samsung phone and tablet
Just bought a second-hand S8.....if NI hadn't lost its marbles big time, I would have bought it new. Great video BTW. I think of adding a Reloop deck, Traktor control vinyl and a set of butter rugs to the party. Of course, Serato butterrrugs to confuse the opposition. And one question, in time of digital DJing what is the benefit of dialing in the BPM with a knob, instead of using the dreaded sync button if you can read the bpm of both tracks? Would go for the Luke setup if I would acknowledge Apple as a brand.
The Hardware is not the problem the Mixtour Pro looks like a great little portable controller. its the software that's stopping me from getting the Mixtour Pro. Djay Pro is missing Neural Mix & Crossfader Fusion options on Windows & Android it seems this is designed for Mac and iPad and Windows & Android versions of Djay Pro have been left lagging behind.
HI LUKE-GREAT VIDEO AND DISCUSSION! I'M ALL ABOUT BREAKING OUT OF THE BOX AS A DJ AND I AGREE THAT DJ PRO IS PROBABLY THE MOST ADVANCED SOFTWARE FOR DJING RIGHT NOW. I WOULD RECOMMEND USING AN IPAD PRO WITH AN M2 PROCESSOR FOR THIS SET UP. ESPECIALLY SINCE DJPRO AI WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR THE IPAD. HOW WOULD ONE CONNECT 2 IPADS? WOULD YOU ADVISE USING 1DECK MODE FOR ACHIEVING THAT? I WOULDN'T RELY ON STREAMING, NOT EVEN FOR HALF OF MY SET, UNLESS IT WAS AN EMERGENCY. ON A SIDE NOTE TIDAL JUST STOPPED STEMS AND COULD FORCE AN UPDATE ON DJ SOFTWARE OTHER PROVIDERS MAY FOLLOW, YOU NEVER KNOW. THERE'S A REASON WHY APPLE MUSIC AND SPOTIFY PULLED OUT OF DJ SOFTWARE ALL TOGETHER. SO YOUR USING IT AS A CHANNEL ON THE CLUB SET UP RIGHT? WHY WOULD YOU NOT USE THE CLUB GEAR AS A CONTROLLER WITH YOUR PHONE AND SOFTWARE? CAN YOU GIVE SOME MORE INFO ON HOW ONE COULD USE THIS WITH ABELTON LIVE IN A CLUB READY SET UP? ✌️
Luke, thank you for taking the time to share this content with us. I tried this setup a long time ago when Spotify was a cloud music option inside the djay app, it was the greatest solution around, there was no need to carry any music at all! When Spotify was no longer an option I stopped using it. The app has potential but it also has some drawbacks, you won't have any luck playing anything if you have events where cell phone signal or wifi are an issue (venues made of metal or concrete, ranch homes, huge events in a dessert, just to name a few real world examples). The only way I see myself using this setup again is if I can plug in my external 4TB drive filled with music. The app requires an internet connection otherwise it's completely useless!
THIS IS AWESOME! Thanks so much for sharing your setup, I been playing on djay pro AI for a few years now and I really like the idea of holding shift and pitching up and down with cue/play. Would love to see something like watching you talk through a set as you do it. Thanks for all you do.
I've seen your set from Tomorrowland Winter. I think this setup could be a gamechanger. I was verry, verry sceptic about this "simple" setup, but WHOW! real nice! The only thing is, that I would miss a couple of direct buttons. The Filter an EQ, are the same knobs in another combination. I like to have it as different knobs. and I think, I would use it with a bigger tablet in place of my phone. In my small studio, I've got a pair of Turntables from Reloop, (RP7000 & RP7000MK2) I like them very much. I don't want to change them for SL1200's. Reloop is not the cheap version of a "OEM Technics".
Hi, I use the Mixtour together with my iPad as a backup system for 4 years now. Works great and has never let me down! I programmed the fx knob to be my tempo of the track....
Way to innovate and stay true to yourself, Luke. I have one question, and it’s about sound quality. How does the Mixtour DAC stack-up to the CDJ or DJM DACs? Surely there’s an audible difference on a large system.
I have been using jogless setup for a long time. Previously just using X1 and any mixer with an audio interface. And when Traktor released in iOS I used it as my backup or lightweight setup. Watching setups being used in big stages like Luke really shows there is a huge possibility that innovation like these will gain acceptance. If we give other brands or platform a try, we might find something useful.
Already loving Djay pro. Nice to see, that it’s always about ‘the cook’ not about the kitchen, although I surely will miss platters to scratch, so I bring my reloop beatpad 2, which is a simular setup like in this video, only with platters😉. Love your video’s. Keep it up!
DJControl Starlight by Hercules is great for on-the-go practice and it has small wheels. The only flaws with those is the lack of XLR output. Your RCA output will not be as full and punchier than XLR.
Have you taken a look at the Xone k2? It is a similar device but with 4 faders and many more programmable buttons via MIDI to play 4 channels more comfortably. In addition, since it is from the Allen&Heath brand, if a club has the xone 96 or 92, with a single cable you can have its 4 channels and EQs and the k2 only to control the playback of the tracks. I have seen that many people use it together with traktor, I wonder if it could also be used with a mobile set
Totally agree! I was delighted when I bought my Xone K2, like 12 years ago and discovered how minimal a setup like this can be. Now, this trend is back.
I have my Mixtur for 5 years now, when it cost 180 euros, used it with Djaypro and my Ipad when I'm like in holidays or visiting friends so I can play just with a portable speakers or in wherever system and start a party just in minutes! Also use it for tiny gigs! The build quality is superb, works perfect! I really recommend the mixtour!
The type of DJ you are can define the tools you need and what you don't need. Like a tradesperson, you only take the tools you need and tools you don't need you can leave them behind. That way you can travel lighter and still get the job done. As they say 'Horses for courses'. 😀
I've played on Reloop Contour(interface edition) until i've messed up with AC adapter and plugged it in 12v one instead of 6v. Then i moved to ZOMO MC1000 (production date is 2011, bought new never opened for 99 euro in 2016) and it fit all of my needs, of course all of mine tracks is perfectly warped and i've set all the needed cue points in Traktor, i do not need a pitch fader and jogs for many years, All i need is 2/4 channel mixer. So, Reloop has been made the solid stuff before. Still waiting for Contour successor :) Couple weeks ago i've played on the CDJs first time in 10+ years, it was kinda scary bc i never touched rekordbox-based Pio players, the only thing i found missing is large laptop screen for better tracks search. So, hardware price doesn't matter anything, everything is rely only on your music taste and creativity.
This just reconfirms my thoughts. I have a cheap af numark mixtrack pro for casual use when travelling or picnics. It's not about the hardware per se, it's just the knowledge and functionality. I don't get the love for Algoriddim as a primary s/ware, I massively dislike Serato and Rekordbox. I have deep love for Virtual DJ. BUT each to their own, and the fact that Luke's decided his mobile phone should be the foundation of setup... you do you, bro. Combined with the fact that when playing festivals Luke's sets would be highly rehearsed and pre-prepared, convenience is obviously a major consideration. 👏👏👏Keep spinning.
I used a similar set up a couple years ago. It ruined my career literally. I was laughed at and never booked again. Good to see you supporting it. Can you help me get my career started again? 😊
Seems like this is where the industry will go eventually and it's really a reduction in the barrier to entry as well but as a beginner it seems like a steep learning curve so I'll wait on it.But thanks for sharing! Truly interesting.
I have been playing dj sets on a spinning bike over ten years on a first generation iPad and DJplayer pro app. Does all the same and better and chaper. Nice set up that one too.
the screen is so tiny, and you want to touche the music, but if he likes it, use it. I don't see this trend spreading out... sorry luke you lost me here
Luke has eyes like a vulture. Myopic me would have trouble reading a computer screen and seeing the Reloop knobs. Hence an S8 (bought secondhand) that gives me a tight set of info and button/ knobs in the same visual plane.
Bought a mixtour on the strength of your previous teaser vids. Thanks for showing how you have programmed the midi on the mixtour - I’ll be making those immediately. (I didn’t think to add nudge functionality like you have , I was going to use pads on my sp404.. DOH!!!) Brilliant video Keep the intro too ;)
Well it’s really good to see a well known djay using not only the Reloop kit but also and particularly djay,,,I’ve been using it since it came out ,,,just retired my 8 year old Reloop beat pad 2,and managed to get a total bargain on the Reloop mixon 4 which is the upgrade to the beatpad2 ,,,,,yes in fact I used djay without a controller for around 3 years and was totally able to use it at parties and the occasional gig,,,,,,anyway for anyone who’s interested ,djay has actually taught me how to mix ,especiall as I’ve used it everywhere from at home but also travelling train, plane and coach have all been used with a pair of headphones and internet connection and just diving in and not worrying what it sounds like so that when I do a proper play out I’ve learnt techniques that can be used whilst totally love ,, intakes aswell lol,
Kudos for this approach Luke. I can imagine playing techno on this as transitions are longer, you have time to play with the device a bit. But mixing edm on this is higher level as I guess you need to do everything faster. Video got me thinking a lot, yet i know there are folks who reject this way of djing right away. Very interesting topic indeed....
Happy you find it interesting and have an open mind for this. Both mixing 4 decks of Techno or EDM (which I do for a living right?) is easier on this setup.
I watched this video twice and I have also djay Pro AI on my iPad and MacBook. I dig a bit in my drawers and found an A&H xone:K2. After searching the web I found a mapping for the Xone:K2 which is a good starting point for own mappings and this works also for me. djay Pro AI has the same flexibility for MIDI mapping like Traktor but has stems seperation and is available on more platforms than any other DJ software. The Reloop Mixtour is currently available for 199€ in some stores and it is good starting point for aspiring DJ's and for those who don't want to carry a big set of equipment. More of your mobile setup please. We have to deal with new technologies also in the DJ area. If we would not adopt new things an dinventions we would still live in caves and made fire with wooden sticks...😂
Hi Luke, I like that you embrace new tech. I wish the dj hardware developers would make something to help the dj focus on something real important: having the dj focus on good music selection. I really wish i could help design a new mixer. For example if Reloop made a lock-in-place or made a "T-shape" mixer, that had a physical keyboard-(with an added scroll knob). Meaning, put a keyboard on the top of the Reloop MixTour mixer, so a dj could type & scroll quickly. Would be less misstypings (like on the iphone) and forget typing on a phone's touchscreen if your hands are sweaty. This would increase music searching & selecting by a whole bunch. Still could have a cable that attaches to your phone like in your setup. Then ..i would leave the big laptop at home. 👍 -MIKE BEATS
9 years ago, I bought my first DJ controller: a small Hercules DJ Control Instinct. It had only the bare necessities, which are extremely similar to what you have here plus two tiny platters. This video demonstrates perfectly the big problem with this controller, that ultimately pushed me to something larger: You don't have enough buttons. every control on your deck has 2, 3, maybe even 4 different functions depending on which other modulator button you press or hold. I could never get used to this, it held me back immensely. It prevented me from doing tight tricks that required access to both Hot Cues and Loop Buttons. It meant I couldn't use the gain knob as I had to remap it to a pitchbend. Half of my EQ was remapped to other functions. It was a wonderful device to get started in the art of DJing, and to fire up a hunger for more, but I could never do any more complex things with it. To this day, my Pioneer SB2, a controller with 4 virtual decks and only 2 channels, holds me back significantly because of the hindered access to the faders on the secondary decks, so I simply do not use them. If you can manage to maintain the same complexity and quality of your unscripted livesets, you have my highest respect. Though I find it hard to believe anyone could reduce their control interface to such a tiny fraction without simplifying their mixing style. I see the benefits of having the DJ software on your phone instead of a laptop or the deck itself, but I don't see the broader scene moving to controllers that are THIS simply anytime soon.
Oh, and considering the price: For that money, I'd rather get a Traktor Kontrol S3 or Numark NS4FX. While I don't know how well / if they work with phones, they're not much more expensive while offering two platters, 4 mixing channels and a LOAD more buttons, while not being super large either. Seems a much better investment to me.
I'm a professional DJ, Graphic designer, cartoonist, and chef from the Dominican Republic. The first time I have seen your channel and to tell the truth, I LIKE Your nice intro please don't stop 😄😄
Really respect how you try and push forward the industry Luke! I found a good deal on the Mixtour and picked one up as a secondary controller to use with djay on my phone for on the go/impromptu things. I really love my SC Live 4 and don't think it can replace that for me, but I originally dismissed mobile DJing as a toy but you've really shown me how I was wrong. With regards to 'the future of DJing' as I've heard you and others mention, at least in my opinion (although that's probably worth very little) there is a place for both standalone units and controllers for smartphones. For someone starting out, a mobile setup makes complete sense as smartphones do more and more of what we used to use computers for (the market segment is where the FLX4 currently sits), but for someone getting more serious a standalone would make more sense (in the market segments the FLX6/10 currently target). In my opinion, a phone is too much of a "do-everything" device for me to trust using it for gigs (the amount of time it's exposed to breakage is far higher than even a laptop) but I think an iPad is a good compromise here - useful for enough other things that people still have them lying around but without the previously mentioned downsides of a smartphones. As someone DJing in a student town, I can definitely say people having an iPad wouldn't be uncommon based on what I see in my classes. If you're getting seriously into DJing, what I've found owning the SC Live 4 after a few controllers is that you can't beat the convenience and dependability of a standalone when compared to using a laptop - no Windows/macOS updates to break things, no software used for school/day jobs to mess things up and a lot more. And if someone spills a vodka cran in the booth you only break one $2000 toy instead of two of them. A lot of the benefits of the mobile setup are what drew me to a standalone in the first place - glad to see you're promoting things which make it easier for the next generation of talent to get started!
A good case to cover the screen of the phone and its good. Phones always get newer chips every year, where stand alones don't, that's why denon had to bring a new prime 4 plus to play stems. Also phones are the most convenient form factor. Handy to play on an ipad sure. But a mixtour is a good interface for a phone. Best to try it all really!
Great video Luke. The idea of the phone replacing the laptop sounds like the future. Personally I'd like to have more dedicated buttons and knobs on the hardware itself so that i don't have to touch the phone at all.
What holts the progression in moving into new gear. Is (at least in my mind) a concept called social idealisms. Social idealism's according to Dr John Demartini are injected values from the external world. E.g. 'Real DJ's should use vinyl' 'You shouldn't use sync'. You can typically identify social ideals when people: Use imperative language such as; should, have too, need too, ought too. The response to these statements is according to who? And obviously use what you love to use. We perform to entertain the audience, no appease others DJ's gear demands. This is why I love your videos Luke. Your always a step ahead using what you love.
This is really cool! Thank you for this informed tutorial! I definitely have to purchase this. I am a mobile DJ-Vocalist (singer) playing events, bars, weddings, etc. And easy transport is my thing as it's just me alone setting up...I currently use the Pioneer DJ WEGO4 w/a tablet due to it's easy transport and I actually like it a lot but for more basic mixing & FX obviously due to my genres. NO ONE has ever said, "hey get off that stage, your controller isn't big enough!" I see so much hate on my device online etc...but for ME it does the JOB and gets me PAIDDD either way. My favorite quote I live by is ...."ITS NOT WHAT YOU DO, ITS HOW YOU DO IT" and that certainly goes for the entertainment industry...it's ABOUT THE MUSIC. THE VIBE. AND CAN YOU KEEP IT GOING? Personally, I think it's more of a "look cool" factor in other genres like EDM, etc. to have this enormous equipment to look "busy" on stage.. thankfully, I don't need the extra help of that fortunately. NOBODY in my audience cares about equipment. They just want to DAAAAAANCE people or have a great time 😊 🤗 I've even had DJ's from other places in the world that have come up to me after my sets giving me praise for my work....and yes, from my "toy-like" device 😅 so thank youuuuuu. It's nice to see other DJ's shed light on these awesome new-age devices.
It’s definitely cool to see something new. I’m considering this setup for taking to smaller gigs where my denon cdjs would be overkill. Or maybe to use as a backup. I definitely would not want to use this in the club though, it would feel too cramped and confusing having so many things mapped to a handful of buttons.
What's happening luke? Of course, i like what you are doing and THANK YOU! For sharing your innovation with the rest of us. Change is inevitable people ; as Luke is demonstrating here. Like it or not we either adapt or stay behind. Cell phone DJ ing is an interesting concept and it simplifies our job as DJ's ; as a demonstrated by luke. Thanks brother Luke and keep on Rocking !!!!
Thank you Samuel! Yes, if anything, this is my journey and I love showing what's possible. Meanwhile in real life, we drive and we stream music from our phones like it's no problem. That while the GPS is running on our phone too. Quick answering emails here and there. Why not DJing right? I don't know anyone who has a CD player in their car still ha ha. Yes here we are in DJ land admiring the CDJs still. It's wild to me.
You've been ahead of the trend before, I don't see why you won't be this time either! Decks are imitating vinyl, let vinyl be vinyl, let the past be the past!
I have tried small size controllers with mobile DJ apps. After much trial and error I have to say this is simply not going to work (well) on Android based devices, iOS devices are fine tho as you have demonstrated. What I uses now is a Windows based tablet or 2-in-1 laptops which can run RekordBox PC, with a Xone K2 controller. I have spend months working on a mapping for RB with Xone K2 that can control 4-decks (with the endless encoders that can set loops and jump around in the track like with Traktor) and all the FX and the stems features in RB . Did needed a 3rd party app for the complex MIDI re-routing and reprogramming to work around the limited MIDI mapping of RB. It also works great as extra controller just for controlling the FX and stems functions in RB beside a controller, All-in-one or CDJ/DJM HID mode. IMO a downside of playing from the phone is the small display. Therefor the app can only display you with limited amount of information. Another downside in general for controllerism is having to switch between "modes" or using SHIFT to access certain functions. This can prevent you from accessing 2 functions simultaneously. I do wonder or you can add an USB Hub with PD to your setup, to include an audio interface with XLR. I know the controller you are using have RCA output, but it doesn't have input for if you need to use a microphone. Plus it will add balanced audio output to the setup. And could you add more controllers to this setup? If they could somehow combine something like the Reloop Spin with DVS with this. That would be interesting. Gives you back the platter you crave for, even if it's belt-driven system.
But luke……you know you are the only guy on earth to pull this off and still look cool…..i mean if i see myself playing with that setup I wouldn’t be a fan of myself anymore😂😂🫡
Richie Hawtin was doing the DJing off iPad with Traktor a few years back too. Now he uses them a bunch in tandem with laptops and other analog stuff (depending if he's doing Plastikman or not)
Playing at a club every weekend, I've tryed many different setups, including this one. I still think it's just more comfortable to bring a pair of USBs and connect them to the Pioneer setup. Also, the iPhone screen is too small for me, specially for browsing the library. BUT, now that they made the stems so good, I'm thinking about completely switching. There's too much advantsges, added to what Laidback Luke said: - Analyzing tracks on the phone. No more rekordbox and exporting bullshit. - It's super mobile. When you work at, let's say, a weeding, you just need to bring your own gear. - It's very easy to map any controller the way you want (much easier and better than rekordbox). - Even if the iPhone screen is tiny, you can always use an iPad, metadata syncs flawlessly between devices.
Allright, very interesting. Considering to buy one myself. But, I'm part of a B2B DJ-duo. We allways bring our own USB and keep surprising eachother with new tracks. We both have a slightly different taste of House Music..... I wonder if we can find a way to keep doing that on a mobile setup like yours......
I'm using an AKAI AMX with a small laptop... first I missed some kind of platters, coming from vinyl... but now it's the ultimate portable setup... the AMX even has EQ touch knobs to program many functions when in touch mode...
yess love the original intro! The techno djs are SMART they saw what they could do with the technology and did it and didnt care what people thought. It gave them the ability to do amazing things with 4 tracks. I can see a lot of similarities with your mobile setup. Reloop should sell a "laidback luke" model with your custom knobs as a way to generate more collaborative revenue. I do think we spend too much time on our phones and this setup is kinda backwards in that thats the only flaw I see in it. I dont want to do EVERYTHING on my phone.
Native Instruments Traktor Kontrol F1 DJ-Controller / X1 Mks 2 one of the best Controller what i am using long time over Traktor Dj one iPhone absolutely awesome
Do you need an Internet connection to use music from streaming services? Do the cue points transfer to other systems? Like if you use an iPhone sometimes and an iPad other times? How do you control BPM? How are the preamps in the soundcard?
@LL 1) yes, keep the intro! 2) if programming a few buttons blows your mind, you should take a look at what guys like Ean Golden were doing with Traktor back in the day… 3) the best chef can make an awesome and tasty meal with a scout knife, a wooden spoon and a dirty kitchen… dJay pro has some serious chops.
The entry level flagship is the Pioneer dj ddj flx4 with djay pro android ( purchased app ) on a Google pixel 7 smartphone. Really a killer. Super efficiënt. Basically everything you need on it is there for us to party jardy jardy
Thank you, I like it. This would be good if you had a last minute request to do a set at a party and you don't want to lug all your creates and equipment; yeah I am old old school, but looking to go digital.. finally lol. So my son is all about the old school set up and I am looking go now get us to a newer more modern way of getting it done. I don't like that you can't scratch, but I believe having the stems ability makes up for it. I would give this a try and the price is reasonable enough to get it and play around. I would DJ a party with it, but it would be great to have my son do a set while on those long road trips where he is bored and the radio or playlists just get old. Eliminate the create?.. Well.. We'll see, we have to keep in shape somehow.
Amazing video Luke! Love seeing how after all these years you keep pushing forward! I love the intro and think you should keep it ! Reminds me that there’s more to life than just wanting to be “Superstar DJs” (: Have you seen or thought about @Reloop RMP Scratch MK2 ? Not sure on the size but should give you platters without being super huge and should just work w your set up. ⅃,,,,L L’s Up! Stay safe traveling and get yourself a Starbucks Chai Tea !
Love your distorted version about why you left Denon DJ. People in the industry said you were paid and then they essentially let you go. Then you get paid by Algoriddim to push their gear and use Reloop because it works with it. You could at least be honest with your viewers. I have no idea why anybody would pay you to represent their product because you might be a good DJ but doesn't make you a good salesperson. The stuff you are using is consumer products and not meant for professionals.
Hey Luke, thanks for making me aware of the Reloop products. I'm currently also in Japan (bought tickets to your Tokyo show @ WARP but other stuff came up unfortunately) and I've been renting studio time on CDJ's while here, but your other video where you talked about switching inspired me to go and check out portable setups. After trying out a few different small ones (Pioneer DDJ400, Denon Prime GO, Numark, etc) I settled on the Reloop Ready, which works with Serato. It's tiny size takes some getting used to but it's so convenient being able to fit the tiny but powerful DJ controller into my laptop bag and create a mix anywhere I go. I still need Serato & Beatport streaming so haven't switched away from the laptop yet, but I can't wait to see improvements in portable setups over the next few years. A question I had from this video was when you're using the EQ knobs for stems, what if you also want to EQ at the same time? I like how Serato/Reloop Ready has dedicated pads for stems, although Serato also recently removed Stem support from Tidal streaming.
@@vegandadbod7157 Not yet, just for practice mixes so far. I plan to take it into a studio later this week to see how it sounds there. I'll also give it a go through a club system during sound test in 2 weeks.
I hope they add sample gain for each sample I have loaded. Very annoying to have different volumes for each sample! Please fix this! Also improve the stem quality!!!
I love new tech! All for it im not an old head stuck in the past and what and this is a super cool tool but i cant help but feel this kinda tech devalues the skill of beat matching a little. just my op (:
I like the intro. It's very personal and personable. I think this setup is really cool. I'd absolutely love to play around with it. I think the whole micro mobile DJ concept is very fun and having this or something similar would be very fun. I also like the looks of the Mixstream Pro Go, the DJControl Starlight and other super-compact options. I love my Prime 4 and I'm drooling over the Rane Four but miniaturization will never not be awesome.
Hats off for dropping this content. It is refreshing to hear someone so prolific to talk about this and to be using it at the level you do. It is a totally legit setup and I have been using the djay Pro for a long time and when it updated to the djay Pro AI it got even better. I have used the app with a Numark DJ2GO 2 loads of times and it is smooth and great to use. I also have a Prime 4 and would be happy to play out on either set up. Keep up the good work ✨💪✨
I’m sold on the Mixtour or something similar, but I can’t commit to a subscription service like DJay or only a phone. Mixtour plus a laptop or iPad and different software seems like a good mobile setup.
Thank you, LBL for the channel and all you do for dance music/producers/dj's. One thing that stands out to me the most in this video is that not only are you showing that the system can be more simplified and compact yet powerful but the other point you're making is that the barrier to entry is becoming lower and lower and almost non-existent. I used to want to buy CDJs but realized I would probably never get that much money unless I hit the lotto. I was always set on a Traktor or a Pioneer controller but now I can just use my phone and a mixer. That's incredible. Where do you think DJ Software/Music Streaming will go? I have Apple Music. I see you can use Tidal but don't want to switch streaming services. Do you think apple may collab with or buy a DJ software company or perhaps create their own at some point? I know they are in the production space with Logic and GarageBand but would love to see them offering DJ software or at least their music streaming to a DJ company.
Just wanted to add; I think it's great that you're working and promoting this set-up. You obviously have the cash to buy a "flagship" set-up many times over, but this will allow a whole generation of aspiring dj's to get started with minimal outlay.
Bravo, sir!
I've seen Luke perform to +400 000 people on his iPhone and the ravers of Paris were having the time of their lives during Techno Parade. It was mindblowing and legendary !!!
It's not the gear... it's the person. Your average DJ isn't going to get away with doing this.
@@djelevateusa1714practice makes perfect, and it's worth it!
@@djelevateusa1714 and why not? If they have the skills, they certainly can perform well on it. It’s a craft!
The intro should 100% stay! I have always loved it! Its part of your signature
100% agree. Especially the Dedicated Dad
Agree!!! Best into in the bizz
I love the fact that you can setup cue points on your songs through your phone, since it’s always so time consuming. It’s so convenient because next time you’re bored and waiting in line somewhere, instead of wasting time with entertainment to pass the time, you can continue to work on your craft since it’s all capable of being done at the touch of your fingertips. Glad you’re helping revolutionize this technology Laidback Luke. 🙌🏼
absolutely! As he said it - in the Pioneer universe you can now as well; with the paid system of Cloud Sync it works surprisingly well! I really love this feature! (being a Pioneer DJ now - not Reloop yet ;)) So "modern technic" yay!!!
Yes sir, thank you for highlighting that. It's been so convenient doing that and sorting tracklists as well. Not to mention putting new tracks in there, on the go, through Tidal!
@@laidbacklukeI am greatly inspired by your willingness to explore a set up that is 1st of all budget friendly, 2ndly considerably lighters which makes it easier on the set up crew 3rdly more reliable than Rekord box which I keep on hearing horror stories about, and as I am an Electronic Music Producer/DJ and a Tour Manager this makes my life much easier as a Tour Manager as the Pioneer CDJ 3000's are unreliable due to the plastic spindles supporting the Jog wheels (Good for repairs technicians, not so good for reliability) Keep it up
I absolutely love and admire how you embrace new technologies for your sets. I can relate to the "hate" you might get from the purists cause I've personally had my share of that first when I switched to CDs, and then when I started using traktor (even with vinyl timecode). It amazes me that some people still fail to understand that the gear is irrelevant at this point and what matters is that we keep the crowd happy, and the clubs packed. Thanks to you I re-discovered Denon and got myself a little Prime Go a couple of years ago. If the promoter can provide a Pioneer or a Denon set up I'll use it. If they can't I bring my traktor set up (two Kontrol D2's). And if its a small club or a smaller town where no "big" set ups are available for rent I just bring my Prime Go. And the crowd doesn't care as long as we keep delivering good music. I love to see you showcasing this newer set up too, it looks like a great option for portability and the app looks powerful too. Much love from Mexico!
As a kid growing up I always wanted to start Djing but never could afford the equipment. Stuff like this is a game changer!
Completely a game changer. I used to work in club scene more in the early 2010s (hiring/scouting out local talent to bring into places) - and always wanted to try djing. The pricing though (for a CDJ-mixer-CDJ) set up was too steep for me
You guys can still do it now. I’m going to by myself a dj controller this year and get started
I am impressed with this setup. Flexible and cheaper than traditional setups. I like you because you don't stick to a specific system but you constantly try new systems and technologies that suit you better. My opinion is that you are moving in the right direction. There will always be people who say that to be a DJ you have to play with cdjs or turntables, but they are stuck in the past. The world changes rapidly and you adapt accordingly. I always learn something new from you in each of your videos. I'm waiting for the next one! 🙂
Thank you Tonis, I really appreciate that! It just hit me at some point seeing that we do everything on our phones now. And using the phone as the brain of a setup, you could hook it onto any compatible setup you'd desire!
@@laidbacklukeLuke I think this is going on the right direction. It’s just that reloop needs to update the mixtour make it usb C bus power and Bluetooth ready. Can’t wait to see Djay pro sync playlist cross platform. Please let people know that you can plug your phone or ipad with Djay pro to CDJs as well. The whole Djay pro system is brilliantly designed. I will love to see you exploring all that in future videos!❤
I used it on a tablet and it works like money! Highly recommend it if you want to have a minimal console and create a set on a plane trip, you can!
I’m enjoying the Reloop mixtour for years now. I have about 11 mixers to choose from at home. Rotary mixers, controller mixers, vintage mixers and DIY rotary mixers but the mixtour is by comfort my number 1! Some years ago I bought 2 mixtours(1 as a backup) but a year ago I sold the second one, new and still in the box. I have never had trouble with the number 1(I even used it outdoors running on a powerbank for 13hours)
Wow this is incredible to read! And what a hack with the power bank! You were one of the first adopters, nice!
I would really like to see a 2023 mixtour with usbc to usbc to connect iphone or iPad, 4 more buttons for each deck so you don't have to press shift all the time and pushed rotary mixer buttons so you toggle on/off the stems. If you are not a scratch dj, iPad and a controller with audio interface is the best solution in my opinion.
I'm a mostly self taught DJ that took some pointers from your 'In the mind' series and fixed places I went wrong, and I've always loved your appreciation for technology. This is a cool video that even doubles as a mini tutorial. Definitely wanna check this out, at least for sake of never having to carry much when I don't have to.
also "it's not about the kitchen, it's about the chef" really hits. Keep doing what you do man!
Thank you so much! So happy to read this. Yeah carrying this around has been super easy!
I really think djay Pro is going to increase in use. DJing off of your phone or tablet is going to be much more common especially since the app works so well with a lot of other DJ hardware.
Yes sir! I don't foresee many pro DJs adapting, but the DJs coming up now will settle into this for sure. It's inevitable.
Me myself switched from Traktor to DJay Pro AI some months ago. Since it also was my back up system I also have the Mixtour for a couple of years now already, actually shortly after it was released in early 2016 always loved the vision of an ultra portable yet powerful set up. Thing is I think the Mixtour has become a little bit outdated, cause it doesn‘t portray all the new amazing possebilites the app has to offer. Most of all I’m missing ways to control FXs and the presence of performance pads. So I had high hopes that Reloop was able to provide this with the Buddy and/or the Ready. What can I say…as much as I love the layout of those controllers I was shocked what a poor sound quality these controllers have. The Mixtour still sounds powerful and awesome und comparison after all these years. No competition! Ican only hope that with you on their team now, Reloop will take a new shot on releasing an ultra portable controller for all the key features of Djay Pro AI with professional sound quality and outputs.
Great points and I value you as a long time user! I've noted these points, as I've said before I'm doing R&D for Reloop too so any suggestions feel free to hit me on the DM on IG and I'll pas it along : )
Hey@@laidbackluke do you think Reloop is going to release an updated version of the Mixtour anytime soon? :)
@@dizco4lifeyes! Watch this space, he said
This is such an excellent example that you don't need a million dollar controller or dj decks to be considered a pro level dj .. At the end of the day its all about playing good music that counts , and if your set up is as portable as this its such a great advantage...Not to long ago djs where only spinning records with no cue points ,no fx . no music selection at this level .. This would be considered a miracle not to long ago... The future looks bright for the new generation of djs and this videos is a great example of what's to come ..Great video Luke 👍
I learned how to dj from this app. Before I could buy a “proper” controller this app taught me the fundamentals. And those fundamentals translated into producing. It’s so cool to me to see it being used in a festival setting. The gear is just a tool to accomplish a task. How creative you get with what you have is what will always set you apart. I believe that everything you need is within reach. You just need to look for it and know how to look differently at it.
I love this video and its thoughtful explanation, which totally matches my feelings and I'm sure many others too. Thank you to Laidback Luke for putting this out. I'm sure it'll encourage new DJs to stick with what works for them, without feeling like they gotta conform to the old school Pioneer DJM900 and CDJs. Like a lot of people, I started out DJing with just an MP3 player and Virtual DJ - CDJs and Pioneers were totally unfamiliar to me. Even though over time there was pressure to switch to CDJs, they seemed outdated. So I went with the Reloop Mixtour instead for a more modern setup. Just unplug the RCAs from the mixer and you're good to go. For anyone commenting that the Mixtour only has 2 decks - Virtual DJ has four decks on software.
I love that "dedicated dad" thing. Your kid has to be sooo proud!
I LOVE the innovation and idea of this. Have been using my phone for the odd song request that I may not have, for years. BUT - I really have trouble depending on a phone or wifi connection for an entire night. Being in a major city, there's always always always, the chance of interference and signal drop. A phone with high capacity storage and tunes pre-loaded on it would work.
I have used traktor for many years and decided to buy the traktor z1, x2 and f1 controllers, have a digital setup, then I bought the traktor s8 where it reminded me that it was going to be the future of djing, the reloop mixtour with djay pro makes me remember even that, if I were to go from one software to another I would move with djay pro, now I am more familiar and together with your video it makes me still feel on point, many colleagues tell me that they would not feel comfortable without jogwheels but if they don't try and don't leave their comfort zone they will never know, a lot of respect for you Laidback Luke I have been following you for years and you are an inspiration
I was septic and at the end of your video I'm convince you are absolutely right. No comparaison With the price of Equipment today ease and simple all in one whaow Reeloop are in the game impressive.
I used the Traktor Z1 for a while with the Traktor DJ iPhone app. It was solid. I had a lot of fun with it.
I find the Z1 a bit limited: no library scrolling , poorly FX control; too much screen touching
I use the Mixtour and Djay pro AI on IPad AND Samsung phone and tablet
Just bought a second-hand S8.....if NI hadn't lost its marbles big time, I would have bought it new. Great video BTW. I think of adding a Reloop deck, Traktor control vinyl and a set of butter rugs to the party. Of course, Serato butterrrugs to confuse the opposition.
And one question, in time of digital DJing what is the benefit of dialing in the BPM with a knob, instead of using the dreaded sync button if you can read the bpm of both tracks?
Would go for the Luke setup if I would acknowledge Apple as a brand.
What about the sound quality?
It's Tidal it's lossless and Hi-Fi, shit sounds amazing
The Hardware is not the problem the Mixtour Pro looks like a great little portable controller.
its the software that's stopping me from getting the Mixtour Pro. Djay Pro is missing Neural Mix & Crossfader Fusion options on Windows & Android it seems this is designed for Mac and iPad and Windows & Android versions of Djay Pro have been left lagging behind.
HI LUKE-GREAT VIDEO AND DISCUSSION! I'M ALL ABOUT BREAKING OUT OF THE BOX AS A DJ AND I AGREE THAT DJ PRO IS PROBABLY THE MOST ADVANCED SOFTWARE FOR DJING RIGHT NOW. I WOULD RECOMMEND USING AN IPAD PRO WITH AN M2 PROCESSOR FOR THIS SET UP. ESPECIALLY SINCE DJPRO AI WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR THE IPAD. HOW WOULD ONE CONNECT 2 IPADS? WOULD YOU ADVISE USING 1DECK MODE FOR ACHIEVING THAT? I WOULDN'T RELY ON STREAMING, NOT EVEN FOR HALF OF MY SET, UNLESS IT WAS AN EMERGENCY. ON A SIDE NOTE TIDAL JUST STOPPED STEMS AND COULD FORCE AN UPDATE ON DJ SOFTWARE OTHER PROVIDERS MAY FOLLOW, YOU NEVER KNOW. THERE'S A REASON WHY APPLE MUSIC AND SPOTIFY PULLED OUT OF DJ SOFTWARE ALL TOGETHER. SO YOUR USING IT AS A CHANNEL ON THE CLUB SET UP RIGHT? WHY WOULD YOU NOT USE THE CLUB GEAR AS A CONTROLLER WITH YOUR PHONE AND SOFTWARE?
CAN YOU GIVE SOME MORE INFO ON HOW ONE COULD USE THIS WITH ABELTON LIVE IN A CLUB READY SET UP? ✌️
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Hopefully Dj Pro 5.0 does some integrating with flagship products setups so we dont have to use rekordbox anymore. Rekordbox is kind of behind- IMO✌️
oh it's me "tracktor with tracktor controler", nice to meet you 😂😂
actualy native instrument make this kinda of tiny dj devices too.
Luke, thank you for taking the time to share this content with us. I tried this setup a long time ago when Spotify was a cloud music option inside the djay app, it was the greatest solution around, there was no need to carry any music at all! When Spotify was no longer an option I stopped using it. The app has potential but it also has some drawbacks, you won't have any luck playing anything if you have events where cell phone signal or wifi are an issue (venues made of metal or concrete, ranch homes, huge events in a dessert, just to name a few real world examples). The only way I see myself using this setup again is if I can plug in my external 4TB drive filled with music. The app requires an internet connection otherwise it's completely useless!
Man I miss Spotify being a cloud option! SoundCloud is an option as well.
Please keep the intro 🤣 much love from Madrid! 🙋🏽♂️
THIS IS AWESOME! Thanks so much for sharing your setup, I been playing on djay pro AI for a few years now and I really like the idea of holding shift and pitching up and down with cue/play. Would love to see something like watching you talk through a set as you do it. Thanks for all you do.
So happy to read this! I'm very thankful that the controllers are customizable. Try that on a "Flagship" system ha ha.
I've seen your set from Tomorrowland Winter. I think this setup could be a gamechanger. I was verry, verry sceptic about this "simple" setup, but WHOW! real nice!
The only thing is, that I would miss a couple of direct buttons. The Filter an EQ, are the same knobs in another combination. I like to have it as different knobs.
and I think, I would use it with a bigger tablet in place of my phone.
In my small studio, I've got a pair of Turntables from Reloop, (RP7000 & RP7000MK2) I like them very much. I don't want to change them for SL1200's. Reloop is not the cheap version of a "OEM Technics".
Hi, I use the Mixtour together with my iPad as a backup system for 4 years now. Works great and has never let me down! I programmed the fx knob to be my tempo of the track....
Way to innovate and stay true to yourself, Luke. I have one question, and it’s about sound quality. How does the Mixtour DAC stack-up to the CDJ or DJM DACs? Surely there’s an audible difference on a large system.
Good point.
Love hearing the old intro and ending, also a super cool and innovative setup, thanks for sharing!
I have been using jogless setup for a long time. Previously just using X1 and any mixer with an audio interface. And when Traktor released in iOS I used it as my backup or lightweight setup. Watching setups being used in big stages like Luke really shows there is a huge possibility that innovation like these will gain acceptance. If we give other brands or platform a try, we might find something useful.
Already loving Djay pro. Nice to see, that it’s always about ‘the cook’ not about the kitchen, although I surely will miss platters to scratch, so I bring my reloop beatpad 2, which is a simular setup like in this video, only with platters😉. Love your video’s. Keep it up!
Omg the pic with deadmau5 and Steve lmaooo 😂
DJControl Starlight by Hercules is great for on-the-go practice and it has small wheels. The only flaws with those is the lack of XLR output. Your RCA output will not be as full and punchier than XLR.
I’m currently using it for open format mixing. I added a Mackie mixer to give it more sound options.
Well you’ve convinced & inspired me Luke! Just purchased the Mixtour & the software. Looking forward to learning. Thank you
Have you taken a look at the Xone k2? It is a similar device but with 4 faders and many more programmable buttons via MIDI to play 4 channels more comfortably. In addition, since it is from the Allen&Heath brand, if a club has the xone 96 or 92, with a single cable you can have its 4 channels and EQs and the k2 only to control the playback of the tracks. I have seen that many people use it together with traktor, I wonder if it could also be used with a mobile set
Totally agree! I was delighted when I bought my Xone K2, like 12 years ago and discovered how minimal a setup like this can be. Now, this trend is back.
I have my Mixtur for 5 years now, when it cost 180 euros, used it with Djaypro and my Ipad when I'm like in holidays or visiting friends so I can play just with a portable speakers or in wherever system and start a party just in minutes! Also use it for tiny gigs! The build quality is superb, works perfect! I really recommend the mixtour!
The type of DJ you are can define the tools you need and what you don't need. Like a tradesperson, you only take the tools you need and tools you don't need you can leave them behind. That way you can travel lighter and still get the job done. As they say 'Horses for courses'. 😀
I've been following Laidback Luke in and out for years and if this guy says something is good it's good.
Thanks for bringing the classic intro and outro to your vlogs :D Please keep it
You inspired me to dust off my old cheap controller to connect it with djay pro 😊
I've played on Reloop Contour(interface edition) until i've messed up with AC adapter and plugged it in 12v one instead of 6v. Then i moved to ZOMO MC1000 (production date is 2011, bought new never opened for 99 euro in 2016) and it fit all of my needs, of course all of mine tracks is perfectly warped and i've set all the needed cue points in Traktor, i do not need a pitch fader and jogs for many years, All i need is 2/4 channel mixer. So, Reloop has been made the solid stuff before. Still waiting for Contour successor :) Couple weeks ago i've played on the CDJs first time in 10+ years, it was kinda scary bc i never touched rekordbox-based Pio players, the only thing i found missing is large laptop screen for better tracks search. So, hardware price doesn't matter anything, everything is rely only on your music taste and creativity.
Thank you so much …. Been waiting for this a long time … I thought native will do this … amazing
This just reconfirms my thoughts. I have a cheap af numark mixtrack pro for casual use when travelling or picnics. It's not about the hardware per se, it's just the knowledge and functionality. I don't get the love for Algoriddim as a primary s/ware, I massively dislike Serato and Rekordbox. I have deep love for Virtual DJ. BUT each to their own, and the fact that Luke's decided his mobile phone should be the foundation of setup... you do you, bro. Combined with the fact that when playing festivals Luke's sets would be highly rehearsed and pre-prepared, convenience is obviously a major consideration. 👏👏👏Keep spinning.
I used a similar set up a couple years ago. It ruined my career literally. I was laughed at and never booked again. Good to see you supporting it. Can you help me get my career started again? 😊
Love the small setup. Can’t help thinking about a four channel mixtour though, would love something like that.
what do you think of the new Native Instruments's X1 MK3?
But if I don't have the "flagship" stuff, how will I be taken seriously? Thanks for fighting the status-quo Luke!
Seems like this is where the industry will go eventually and it's really a reduction in the barrier to entry as well but as a beginner it seems like a steep learning curve so I'll wait on it.But thanks for sharing! Truly interesting.
I have been playing dj sets on a spinning bike over ten years on a first generation iPad and DJplayer pro app. Does all the same and better and chaper. Nice set up that one too.
Yay! He's using the Reloop Mixtour!
the screen is so tiny, and you want to touche the music, but if he likes it, use it. I don't see this trend spreading out... sorry luke you lost me here
Luke has eyes like a vulture. Myopic me would have trouble reading a computer screen and seeing the Reloop knobs. Hence an S8 (bought secondhand) that gives me a tight set of info and button/ knobs in the same visual plane.
I'd consider the setup with a tablet maybe
@Rickwhyy I use a.n Ipad 10.1"
I used it on a tablet and it works like money! Highly recommend it if you want to have a minimal console and create a set on a plane trip, you can
I know 2-3 locals that do just that n rave. But have so much fun on full sized controllers 🤣
Bought a mixtour on the strength of your previous teaser vids. Thanks for showing how you have programmed the midi on the mixtour - I’ll be making those immediately. (I didn’t think to add nudge functionality like you have , I was going to use pads on my sp404.. DOH!!!)
Brilliant video
Keep the intro too ;)
SP404 is fast becoming my favorite passtime. My S8 bu NI has midi.....synching both would be cool.
Well it’s really good to see a well known djay using not only the Reloop kit but also and particularly djay,,,I’ve been using it since it came out ,,,just retired my 8 year old Reloop beat pad 2,and managed to get a total bargain on the Reloop mixon 4 which is the upgrade to the beatpad2 ,,,,,yes in fact I used djay without a controller for around 3 years and was totally able to use it at parties and the occasional gig,,,,,,anyway for anyone who’s interested ,djay has actually taught me how to mix ,especiall as I’ve used it everywhere from at home but also travelling train, plane and coach have all been used with a pair of headphones and internet connection and just diving in and not worrying what it sounds like so that when I do a proper play out I’ve learnt techniques that can be used whilst totally love ,, intakes aswell lol,
Kudos for this approach Luke. I can imagine playing techno on this as transitions are longer, you have time to play with the device a bit. But mixing edm on this is higher level as I guess you need to do everything faster. Video got me thinking a lot, yet i know there are folks who reject this way of djing right away. Very interesting topic indeed....
Happy you find it interesting and have an open mind for this. Both mixing 4 decks of Techno or EDM (which I do for a living right?) is easier on this setup.
@@laidbacklukeHi Luke, plz show us how to mix 4 decks with this setup! Can’t wait
I love innovation and the idea to have all I need on my phone. Maybe you are the black sheep of the industry! haha. Keep going!
I watched this video twice and I have also djay Pro AI on my iPad and MacBook. I dig a bit in my drawers and found an A&H xone:K2. After searching the web I found a mapping for the Xone:K2 which is a good starting point for own mappings and this works also for me. djay Pro AI has the same flexibility for MIDI mapping like Traktor but has stems seperation and is available on more platforms than any other DJ software. The Reloop Mixtour is currently available for 199€ in some stores and it is good starting point for aspiring DJ's and for those who don't want to carry a big set of equipment.
More of your mobile setup please. We have to deal with new technologies also in the DJ area. If we would not adopt new things an dinventions we would still live in caves and made fire with wooden sticks...😂
Hi Luke,
I like that you embrace new tech. I wish the dj hardware developers would make something to help the dj focus on something real important: having the dj focus on good music selection.
I really wish i could help design a new mixer.
For example if Reloop made a lock-in-place or made a "T-shape" mixer, that had a physical keyboard-(with an added scroll knob).
Meaning, put a keyboard on the top of the Reloop MixTour mixer, so a dj could type & scroll quickly.
Would be less misstypings (like on the iphone) and forget typing on a phone's touchscreen if your hands are sweaty.
This would increase music searching & selecting by a whole bunch. Still could have a cable that attaches to your phone like in your setup.
Then ..i would leave the big laptop at home. 👍
-MIKE BEATS
9 years ago, I bought my first DJ controller: a small Hercules DJ Control Instinct. It had only the bare necessities, which are extremely similar to what you have here plus two tiny platters. This video demonstrates perfectly the big problem with this controller, that ultimately pushed me to something larger: You don't have enough buttons. every control on your deck has 2, 3, maybe even 4 different functions depending on which other modulator button you press or hold. I could never get used to this, it held me back immensely. It prevented me from doing tight tricks that required access to both Hot Cues and Loop Buttons. It meant I couldn't use the gain knob as I had to remap it to a pitchbend. Half of my EQ was remapped to other functions. It was a wonderful device to get started in the art of DJing, and to fire up a hunger for more, but I could never do any more complex things with it. To this day, my Pioneer SB2, a controller with 4 virtual decks and only 2 channels, holds me back significantly because of the hindered access to the faders on the secondary decks, so I simply do not use them.
If you can manage to maintain the same complexity and quality of your unscripted livesets, you have my highest respect. Though I find it hard to believe anyone could reduce their control interface to such a tiny fraction without simplifying their mixing style. I see the benefits of having the DJ software on your phone instead of a laptop or the deck itself, but I don't see the broader scene moving to controllers that are THIS simply anytime soon.
Oh, and considering the price: For that money, I'd rather get a Traktor Kontrol S3 or Numark NS4FX. While I don't know how well / if they work with phones, they're not much more expensive while offering two platters, 4 mixing channels and a LOAD more buttons, while not being super large either. Seems a much better investment to me.
High-level controller, I use it with TraktorPro 3 in medium and large events.
I'm a professional DJ, Graphic designer, cartoonist, and chef from the Dominican Republic.
The first time I have seen your channel
and to tell the truth, I LIKE Your nice intro please don't stop
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Really respect how you try and push forward the industry Luke! I found a good deal on the Mixtour and picked one up as a secondary controller to use with djay on my phone for on the go/impromptu things. I really love my SC Live 4 and don't think it can replace that for me, but I originally dismissed mobile DJing as a toy but you've really shown me how I was wrong.
With regards to 'the future of DJing' as I've heard you and others mention, at least in my opinion (although that's probably worth very little) there is a place for both standalone units and controllers for smartphones. For someone starting out, a mobile setup makes complete sense as smartphones do more and more of what we used to use computers for (the market segment is where the FLX4 currently sits), but for someone getting more serious a standalone would make more sense (in the market segments the FLX6/10 currently target). In my opinion, a phone is too much of a "do-everything" device for me to trust using it for gigs (the amount of time it's exposed to breakage is far higher than even a laptop) but I think an iPad is a good compromise here - useful for enough other things that people still have them lying around but without the previously mentioned downsides of a smartphones. As someone DJing in a student town, I can definitely say people having an iPad wouldn't be uncommon based on what I see in my classes. If you're getting seriously into DJing, what I've found owning the SC Live 4 after a few controllers is that you can't beat the convenience and dependability of a standalone when compared to using a laptop - no Windows/macOS updates to break things, no software used for school/day jobs to mess things up and a lot more. And if someone spills a vodka cran in the booth you only break one $2000 toy instead of two of them.
A lot of the benefits of the mobile setup are what drew me to a standalone in the first place - glad to see you're promoting things which make it easier for the next generation of talent to get started!
A good case to cover the screen of the phone and its good. Phones always get newer chips every year, where stand alones don't, that's why denon had to bring a new prime 4 plus to play stems. Also phones are the most convenient form factor. Handy to play on an ipad sure. But a mixtour is a good interface for a phone. Best to try it all really!
Great video Luke. The idea of the phone replacing the laptop sounds like the future. Personally I'd like to have more dedicated buttons and knobs on the hardware itself so that i don't have to touch the phone at all.
You can use just about any mixer or controller with the DJ pro App
I could never go away from decks, I love PLAYING on decks, I find it satisfying, I don't know why.
Truly missed that intro Luke!
LETSSSS GOOO THE INTROOOO IS BACK🔥🔥🔥I really missed it hahahaha thanks Luke for reading the comments and considering them!
What holts the progression in moving into new gear. Is (at least in my mind) a concept called social idealisms. Social idealism's according to Dr John Demartini are injected values from the external world. E.g. 'Real DJ's should use vinyl' 'You shouldn't use sync'.
You can typically identify social ideals when people: Use imperative language such as; should, have too, need too, ought too.
The response to these statements is according to who?
And obviously use what you love to use. We perform to entertain the audience, no appease others DJ's gear demands.
This is why I love your videos Luke. Your always a step ahead using what you love.
I looked at that years ago and liked it. Besides scratching I don’t need platters. However I need more that 4 cue points.
This is really cool! Thank you for this informed tutorial! I definitely have to purchase this. I am a mobile DJ-Vocalist (singer) playing events, bars, weddings, etc. And easy transport is my thing as it's just me alone setting up...I currently use the Pioneer DJ WEGO4 w/a tablet due to it's easy transport and I actually like it a lot but for more basic mixing & FX obviously due to my genres. NO ONE has ever said, "hey get off that stage, your controller isn't big enough!" I see so much hate on my device online etc...but for ME it does the JOB and gets me PAIDDD either way. My favorite quote I live by is ...."ITS NOT WHAT YOU DO, ITS HOW YOU DO IT" and that certainly goes for the entertainment industry...it's ABOUT THE MUSIC. THE VIBE. AND CAN YOU KEEP IT GOING? Personally, I think it's more of a "look cool" factor in other genres like EDM, etc. to have this enormous equipment to look "busy" on stage.. thankfully, I don't need the extra help of that fortunately. NOBODY in my audience cares about equipment. They just want to DAAAAAANCE people or have a great time 😊 🤗 I've even had DJ's from other places in the world that have come up to me after my sets giving me praise for my work....and yes, from my "toy-like" device 😅 so thank youuuuuu. It's nice to see other DJ's shed light on these awesome new-age devices.
It’s definitely cool to see something new. I’m considering this setup for taking to smaller gigs where my denon cdjs would be overkill. Or maybe to use as a backup. I definitely would not want to use this in the club though, it would feel too cramped and confusing having so many things mapped to a handful of buttons.
What's happening luke? Of course, i like what you are doing and THANK YOU! For sharing your innovation with the rest of us. Change is inevitable people ; as Luke is demonstrating here. Like it or not we either adapt or stay behind. Cell phone DJ ing is an interesting concept and it simplifies our job as DJ's ; as a demonstrated by luke. Thanks brother Luke and keep on Rocking !!!!
They are! I use my Samsung S5 to S22 and Samsung Galaxy tablet with Djay for years with the Mixtour since it came on the market !!
Love reading this, I do apologize for being so far behind but spreading the word now!@@Cactusman1960
Thank you Samuel! Yes, if anything, this is my journey and I love showing what's possible. Meanwhile in real life, we drive and we stream music from our phones like it's no problem. That while the GPS is running on our phone too. Quick answering emails here and there. Why not DJing right? I don't know anyone who has a CD player in their car still ha ha. Yes here we are in DJ land admiring the CDJs still. It's wild to me.
You've been ahead of the trend before, I don't see why you won't be this time either! Decks are imitating vinyl, let vinyl be vinyl, let the past be the past!
I have tried small size controllers with mobile DJ apps. After much trial and error I have to say this is simply not going to work (well) on Android based devices, iOS devices are fine tho as you have demonstrated. What I uses now is a Windows based tablet or 2-in-1 laptops which can run RekordBox PC, with a Xone K2 controller. I have spend months working on a mapping for RB with Xone K2 that can control 4-decks (with the endless encoders that can set loops and jump around in the track like with Traktor) and all the FX and the stems features in RB . Did needed a 3rd party app for the complex MIDI re-routing and reprogramming to work around the limited MIDI mapping of RB. It also works great as extra controller just for controlling the FX and stems functions in RB beside a controller, All-in-one or CDJ/DJM HID mode.
IMO a downside of playing from the phone is the small display. Therefor the app can only display you with limited amount of information. Another downside in general for controllerism is having to switch between "modes" or using SHIFT to access certain functions. This can prevent you from accessing 2 functions simultaneously.
I do wonder or you can add an USB Hub with PD to your setup, to include an audio interface with XLR. I know the controller you are using have RCA output, but it doesn't have input for if you need to use a microphone. Plus it will add balanced audio output to the setup. And could you add more controllers to this setup? If they could somehow combine something like the Reloop Spin with DVS with this. That would be interesting. Gives you back the platter you crave for, even if it's belt-driven system.
But luke……you know you are the only guy on earth to pull this off and still look cool…..i mean if i see myself playing with that setup I wouldn’t be a fan of myself anymore😂😂🫡
Richie Hawtin was doing the DJing off iPad with Traktor a few years back too. Now he uses them a bunch in tandem with laptops and other analog stuff (depending if he's doing Plastikman or not)
Playing at a club every weekend, I've tryed many different setups, including this one. I still think it's just more comfortable to bring a pair of USBs and connect them to the Pioneer setup. Also, the iPhone screen is too small for me, specially for browsing the library.
BUT, now that they made the stems so good, I'm thinking about completely switching. There's too much advantsges, added to what Laidback Luke said:
- Analyzing tracks on the phone. No more rekordbox and exporting bullshit.
- It's super mobile. When you work at, let's say, a weeding, you just need to bring your own gear.
- It's very easy to map any controller the way you want (much easier and better than rekordbox).
- Even if the iPhone screen is tiny, you can always use an iPad, metadata syncs flawlessly between devices.
Many THANKS for these explanations ! MIXTOUR is such a BEAST under a shy look !
Allright, very interesting. Considering to buy one myself. But, I'm part of a B2B DJ-duo. We allways bring our own USB and keep surprising eachother with new tracks. We both have a slightly different taste of House Music..... I wonder if we can find a way to keep doing that on a mobile setup like yours......
I'm using an AKAI AMX with a small laptop... first I missed some kind of platters, coming from vinyl... but now it's the ultimate portable setup... the AMX even has EQ touch knobs to program many functions when in touch mode...
yess love the original intro!
The techno djs are SMART they saw what they could do with the technology and did it and didnt care what people thought. It gave them the ability to do amazing things with 4 tracks. I can see a lot of similarities with your mobile setup.
Reloop should sell a "laidback luke" model with your custom knobs as a way to generate more collaborative revenue.
I do think we spend too much time on our phones and this setup is kinda backwards in that thats the only flaw I see in it. I dont want to do EVERYTHING on my phone.
Native Instruments Traktor Kontrol F1 DJ-Controller / X1 Mks 2 one of the best Controller what i am using long time over Traktor Dj one iPhone absolutely awesome
Do you need an Internet connection to use music from streaming services? Do the cue points transfer to other systems? Like if you use an iPhone sometimes and an iPad other times? How do you control BPM? How are the preamps in the soundcard?
Native Instruments Traktor has been doing this for a long time on IOS.. It really is nice to have..
@LL
1) yes, keep the intro!
2) if programming a few buttons blows your mind, you should take a look at what guys like Ean Golden were doing with Traktor back in the day…
3) the best chef can make an awesome and tasty meal with a scout knife, a wooden spoon and a dirty kitchen…
dJay pro has some serious chops.
The entry level flagship is the Pioneer dj ddj flx4 with djay pro android ( purchased app ) on a Google pixel 7 smartphone. Really a killer. Super efficiënt. Basically everything you need on it is there for us to party jardy jardy
Been rocking this set up with a ddj200 & an akai pad controller for 3&4 decks & knob control for both decks
Thank you, I like it. This would be good if you had a last minute request to do a set at a party and you don't want to lug all your creates and equipment; yeah I am old old school, but looking to go digital.. finally lol. So my son is all about the old school set up and I am looking go now get us to a newer more modern way of getting it done. I don't like that you can't scratch, but I believe having the stems ability makes up for it. I would give this a try and the price is reasonable enough to get it and play around. I would DJ a party with it, but it would be great to have my son do a set while on those long road trips where he is bored and the radio or playlists just get old. Eliminate the create?.. Well.. We'll see, we have to keep in shape somehow.
Amazing video Luke! Love seeing how after all these years you keep pushing forward!
I love the intro and think you should keep it ! Reminds me that there’s more to life than just wanting to be “Superstar DJs” (:
Have you seen or thought about @Reloop RMP Scratch MK2 ? Not sure on the size but should give you platters without being super huge and should just work w your set up.
⅃,,,,L L’s Up! Stay safe traveling and get yourself a Starbucks Chai Tea !
Just looked it up and I think it go discontinued! Thank you for suggesting that, good to see you in the comments again : )
@@laidbackluke
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Ill be seeing you at you at your next florida show!
Love your distorted version about why you left Denon DJ. People in the industry said you were paid and then they essentially let you go. Then you get paid by Algoriddim to push their gear and use Reloop because it works with it. You could at least be honest with your viewers. I have no idea why anybody would pay you to represent their product because you might be a good DJ but doesn't make you a good salesperson. The stuff you are using is consumer products and not meant for professionals.
Hey Luke, thanks for making me aware of the Reloop products. I'm currently also in Japan (bought tickets to your Tokyo show @ WARP but other stuff came up unfortunately) and I've been renting studio time on CDJ's while here, but your other video where you talked about switching inspired me to go and check out portable setups. After trying out a few different small ones (Pioneer DDJ400, Denon Prime GO, Numark, etc) I settled on the Reloop Ready, which works with Serato. It's tiny size takes some getting used to but it's so convenient being able to fit the tiny but powerful DJ controller into my laptop bag and create a mix anywhere I go. I still need Serato & Beatport streaming so haven't switched away from the laptop yet, but I can't wait to see improvements in portable setups over the next few years. A question I had from this video was when you're using the EQ knobs for stems, what if you also want to EQ at the same time? I like how Serato/Reloop Ready has dedicated pads for stems, although Serato also recently removed Stem support from Tidal streaming.
Did you ever use the Ready in a club? Or only for preparation or practice? I‘m asking because I think it has a very poor audio quality.
@@vegandadbod7157 Not yet, just for practice mixes so far. I plan to take it into a studio later this week to see how it sounds there. I'll also give it a go through a club system during sound test in 2 weeks.
I hope they add sample gain for each sample I have loaded. Very annoying to have different volumes for each sample! Please fix this! Also improve the stem quality!!!
I think it'll be so nice to someday get Serato-quality stems in Djay Pro so we can also use an iPad in a portable setup.
I love new tech! All for it im not an old head stuck in the past and what and this is a super cool tool but i cant help but feel this kinda tech devalues the skill of beat matching a little. just my op (:
I like the intro. It's very personal and personable. I think this setup is really cool. I'd absolutely love to play around with it. I think the whole micro mobile DJ concept is very fun and having this or something similar would be very fun. I also like the looks of the Mixstream Pro Go, the DJControl Starlight and other super-compact options. I love my Prime 4 and I'm drooling over the Rane Four but miniaturization will never not be awesome.
Hats off for dropping this content. It is refreshing to hear someone so prolific to talk about this and to be using it at the level you do. It is a totally legit setup and I have been using the djay Pro for a long time and when it updated to the djay Pro AI it got even better. I have used the app with a Numark DJ2GO 2 loads of times and it is smooth and great to use. I also have a Prime 4 and would be happy to play out on either set up. Keep up the good work ✨💪✨
Algoriddim saved me in a pinch. I forgot my laptop charger and I just djed off my phone.
I’m sold on the Mixtour or something similar, but I can’t commit to a subscription service like DJay or only a phone. Mixtour plus a laptop or iPad and different software seems like a good mobile setup.
Thank you, LBL for the channel and all you do for dance music/producers/dj's.
One thing that stands out to me the most in this video is that not only are you showing that the system can be more simplified and compact yet powerful but the other point you're making is that the barrier to entry is becoming lower and lower and almost non-existent. I used to want to buy CDJs but realized I would probably never get that much money unless I hit the lotto. I was always set on a Traktor or a Pioneer controller but now I can just use my phone and a mixer. That's incredible.
Where do you think DJ Software/Music Streaming will go? I have Apple Music. I see you can use Tidal but don't want to switch streaming services. Do you think apple may collab with or buy a DJ software company or perhaps create their own at some point? I know they are in the production space with Logic and GarageBand but would love to see them offering DJ software or at least their music streaming to a DJ company.