Come on I bought these 3years ago before all the stuff going on these days. Mine still worked fine when I sold the car with them in it. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
The problem with lithium under the bonnet is that after 3 years (which coincidentally is the under bonnet warranty period offered by DCS) the capacity nose dives. I speak from p[ersonla experience - after 3 1/2 years, down to 65%. They just don't like a very hot environment.
No argument here mate, I wouldn’t do these again either. With that said they are still under the bonnet now and they are 3 years old. I did these at a time when very few had experience with this style of setup. My opinion is they are not ideal but will do the job required. Also I still have not done a capacity test on them. I expect they’re nowhere near as good as they should be, but they have lasted their warranty period so at this time I can’t complain. I’m not defending these batteries but so far they are still doing what I require. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Cheers Steve
@@MudducksTouringAustraliahave you done a capacity test now to see where they are at? You seem positive still about the batteries so wouldn’t hurt to have more details now.
I bought a 200 amp lithium battery for a camper just last week. In doing my research I found out DCS go around suing individuals who had poor performance and said so. There price was ok but that info put me off as I would have said so as well if I had problems. So I bought the Renogy pro 200amp. THEN I found out DCS changed their warranty mid stride and allegedly tried to hide the proof. I feel like I dodged a bullet.
Hi mate, I don't blame you. I purchased the batteries 3 years ago before all of this was going on and this clip is 2 years old. I am aware of all of the current proceedings and hope it all ends well. I can only go on my experience with these batteries which at the time of selling the car were still working fine after 3 and a bit years. I did not do a capacity test on them so I don't know how they were but they did everything asked of them in my situation so that's all I could hope for. I'm not sticking up for DCS but I'm not bagging them either as I said in my personal experience I had no problems with them. I hope this helps.Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
@MudducksTouringAustralia I just watched a Louise Rossmann RUclips video where he talks about the DCS suing a small RUclipsr for accurate product review showing battery issues & misleading warranty..?
@@stellamatutina3573 Yes mate Ive seen that one, with this going on its hard not to see these things. John Cadogan and a dew others have done videos about this too. Cheers Steve
Hi Steve - thanks for the video. I have the DCS180 setup in my LC300 and am finding the 'feedback' on SOC very problematic. When first installed it would hover up around 95%+ with bi-weekly driving, LC parked on street and 300W solar on roof to keep it topped up in between. 40l drawer fridge permanently on. I then managed to run them down until the BMS shut both batteries down as my camper was not on an ignition disconnect circuit (since fixed!). The SOC when 'woken up' was obviously 0% but what surprised me was it took 25 hours of driving before I was any SOC above 15% until, after an overnight stop and hitting the freeway in the morning it 'suddenly' was back at 96%. I have since started parking in a garage and after a week (with Victron load disconnect manually disconnecting fridge etc loads) the BMS again shut both batteries down. In the two weeks since I have seen Bat 1 SOC come up to 13% and Bat 2 remains showing 0%. What has been your experience with SOC readings? Thanks Flying Deck
Hi mate, thanks for watching and reaching out. I have had the DCS batteries for about 3 and a half years now. I honestly don't look at the SOC very often unless I feel that there's an issue. I have never run mine flat so the BMS has not shut them down (more good luck than good management I think). I can tell you that I have NOT seen SOC over about 90% for quite a while now, but as I said I don't check all that often. I still use the 200 for touring and camping duties and have not ever had the load disconnect activate. So my personal experience has been great. The lowest I have ever seen was 28% on 1 and 32% on the other. They were back into the 90s after about 3 hours. I hope this is of some help. Cheers Steve
Hi mate, I would like to have done that but unfortunately the 200 is gone. I can tell you that although I dont have any numbers to show, the batteries were physically fine and I was still getting plenty of start power after 4 days running fridge and camp lights without topping up. Sorry I cant give you better info than that. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
Good episode Steve I love how your fridges on a diet 🤣🤪 I've changed to lithium for my auxiliary battery. A Alibaba special have my 65 litre fridge working 24/7 👍
Good summary Steve. Although I’m running a different brand lithium to you, I will never look back. Lead is dead. I’ve since replaced the lead battery in my motorbike with a lithium unit, and my ride on mower battery just died. Guess what’s going in it😉
great clip Steve Thanks, these batteries look like they are coming down in price and more competition is entering into market.... the sizing chart for your t-shirts is that correct sizing ..looks like they a like yank sizes.and can you exchange if I get it wrong.
Haha. 20% of 200 is not 20 but 40amp hours. It just happened to be the first part of your review I landed on. I’m thinking of buying these batteries but today I heard a few bad things with handling heat but still trying to weigh up and decide
What about now? Be good to see a full capacity test on all batteries. Especially base on some other popular youtubers results.. Turns out, they are no good.
After all the shit that has gone down with this company. I wouldn't touch DCS batteries with a 10ft barge pole. I know you made this video well before all this happened Steve. Better put an edit in and add in this is my personal opinion.
I can’t argue with that logic at all. I can edit the details in the description but obviously not the clip. Good idea, I’ll get onto that. As Ive said in a few replies, this was my user experience at the time. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
I guess that would have been a problem, I’ve said elsewhere I’m not sticking up for them, if the product or company has issues then they get what they get. My point when I filmed this 2 years ago was I had no issues. They were still fine when I sold the car. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
pure overpriced garbage!!! crap bms app completely out of whack and lots of buyers complaining of more than 30% capacity loss in under 100 cycles as well as being exposed to have had bogus false "positive" reviews online
Hi mate, I can not argue with all of the information that is out there now. I did not do a capacity test in the time I had them. This clip is about 2 years old now and at the time they were fine. I recently sold the car and they were still working fine. I am in no way sticking up for the company or what is happening with other RUclipsrs. My personal experience with them was fine, but I do understand what is happening now and hope this all gets resolved soon. As I said this was my user experience and in no way supports or condemns any actions being taken these days. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
I completely understand your opinion, and all I can say is in my user experience I had no issues. As for the current situation, I can see that there may be some issues. I won't tick up for nor bag the company. This video was made nearly 2 years ago, long before any of the current stuff was going on. At the time of sale of the car the batteries were still in it and working fine. I can only go on my personal user experience and am not getting into opinions on the company or current events. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
I don’t support them mate, my video is 2 years old now. I did this back then. At the time I had no issues with them. I do not support the current situation. But my personal experience at the time was positive. I no longer have the car or the batteries. Cheers Steve
Well they come with brackets now. No actual battery tests?... Man you must have failed year 5 maths.... thats some weird +×÷%🤣 Never mind you could still do the budget for the liberals 🙄 🤣 A 200 charge rate is not 100amp... A good bms for a lipo4 should stop before 100% it achieves little but stresses them the most. You missed the cost saving of all the bits and bobs not needed. Let along easy and speed of charge. A good bcdc 50amp one is over a 1000 and they also hate heat and slow charge. Let alone cost to be wired up right...
DCS, very bold behaviour. Tut tut
Come on I bought these 3years ago before all the stuff going on these days. Mine still worked fine when I sold the car with them in it. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
@@MudducksTouringAustraliayou're just saying that because you don't want to be sued 😅
@@momo_the_great6969 lol, not really just my experience. you've made me smile. Cheers Steve
The problem with lithium under the bonnet is that after 3 years (which coincidentally is the under bonnet warranty period offered by DCS) the capacity nose dives. I speak from p[ersonla experience - after 3 1/2 years, down to 65%. They just don't like a very hot environment.
No argument here mate, I wouldn’t do these again either. With that said they are still under the bonnet now and they are 3 years old. I did these at a time when very few had experience with this style of setup.
My opinion is they are not ideal but will do the job required. Also I still have not done a capacity test on them. I expect they’re nowhere near as good as they should be, but they have lasted their warranty period so at this time I can’t complain.
I’m not defending these batteries but so far they are still doing what I require. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Cheers Steve
@@MudducksTouringAustraliahave you done a capacity test now to see where they are at? You seem positive still about the batteries so wouldn’t hurt to have more details now.
@@offroadingfoz Sadly I have parted with the land cruiser with the batteries in it. I would have liked to do a test but can't now. Cheers Steve
DCS has fraudulently (IMO) *lowered* the Warranty conditions online, and *_back dated_* it !!! Capacity for warranty period reduced from 80% to 70%.
NEVER BUY DCS😮
Once you go lithium you never go back
Thanks for sharing I’m sure a lot out there will get some good info off this clip
👍👍
Thanks mate. Cheers Steve
I bought a 200 amp lithium battery for a camper just last week. In doing my research I found out DCS go around suing individuals who had poor performance and said so. There price was ok but that info put me off as I would have said so as well if I had problems. So I bought the Renogy pro 200amp. THEN I found out DCS changed their warranty mid stride and allegedly tried to hide the proof. I feel like I dodged a bullet.
Hi mate, I don't blame you. I purchased the batteries 3 years ago before all of this was going on and this clip is 2 years old. I am aware of all of the current proceedings and hope it all ends well. I can only go on my experience with these batteries which at the time of selling the car were still working fine after 3 and a bit years. I did not do a capacity test on them so I don't know how they were but they did everything asked of them in my situation so that's all I could hope for. I'm not sticking up for DCS but I'm not bagging them either as I said in my personal experience I had no problems with them. I hope this helps.Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
@MudducksTouringAustralia I just watched a Louise Rossmann RUclips video where he talks about the DCS suing a small RUclipsr for accurate product review showing battery issues & misleading warranty..?
@@stellamatutina3573 Yes mate Ive seen that one, with this going on its hard not to see these things. John Cadogan and a dew others have done videos about this too. Cheers Steve
Hi Steve - thanks for the video. I have the DCS180 setup in my LC300 and am finding the 'feedback' on SOC very problematic. When first installed it would hover up around 95%+ with bi-weekly driving, LC parked on street and 300W solar on roof to keep it topped up in between. 40l drawer fridge permanently on. I then managed to run them down until the BMS shut both batteries down as my camper was not on an ignition disconnect circuit (since fixed!). The SOC when 'woken up' was obviously 0% but what surprised me was it took 25 hours of driving before I was any SOC above 15% until, after an overnight stop and hitting the freeway in the morning it 'suddenly' was back at 96%. I have since started parking in a garage and after a week (with Victron load disconnect manually disconnecting fridge etc loads) the BMS again shut both batteries down. In the two weeks since I have seen Bat 1 SOC come up to 13% and Bat 2 remains showing 0%.
What has been your experience with SOC readings?
Thanks Flying Deck
Hi mate, thanks for watching and reaching out. I have had the DCS batteries for about 3 and a half years now. I honestly don't look at the SOC very often unless I feel that there's an issue. I have never run mine flat so the BMS has not shut them down (more good luck than good management I think). I can tell you that I have NOT seen SOC over about 90% for quite a while now, but as I said I don't check all that often. I still use the 200 for touring and camping duties and have not ever had the load disconnect activate. So my personal experience has been great. The lowest I have ever seen was 28% on 1 and 32% on the other. They were back into the 90s after about 3 hours. I hope this is of some help. Cheers Steve
Good story for someone that is looking at which way to go
Thanks John hopefully it helps someone. Cheers Steve
Real good setup there Steve. A lot more involved than mine, but then I don't use mine for more than overnight.
Thanks Scott Ive been loving them so far. Cheers Steve
Be good to get another update and review including a capacity test to see how they are handling life under the bonnet of the big rig.
Hi mate, I would like to have done that but unfortunately the 200 is gone. I can tell you that although I dont have any numbers to show, the batteries were physically fine and I was still getting plenty of start power after 4 days running fridge and camp lights without topping up. Sorry I cant give you better info than that. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
Good episode Steve I love how your fridges on a diet 🤣🤪 I've changed to lithium for my auxiliary battery. A Alibaba special have my 65 litre fridge working 24/7 👍
Nice mate, Im loving the lithium life. Cheers Steve
It's on the list. Thanks Steve. Cheers Jim
Thanks Jim, I love them. Cheers Steve
Good summary Steve. Although I’m running a different brand lithium to you, I will never look back. Lead is dead. I’ve since replaced the lead battery in my motorbike with a lithium unit, and my ride on mower battery just died. Guess what’s going in it😉
Yeah Terry, once you go lithium you cant go back hey! Thanks for watching mate. Cheers Steve
G'day Terry.... are you aware of this? Stefan Fischer is being sued by DCS for defamation........ not good. ruclips.net/video/STcKvMuYdf4/видео.html
Good one Steve. Can you do one on the double swag stretcher and 23zero swag. Cheers
Great idea mate, I will do that for sure. Cheers Steve
great clip Steve Thanks, these batteries look like they are coming down in price and more competition is entering into market.... the sizing chart for your t-shirts is that correct sizing ..looks like they a like yank sizes.and can you exchange if I get it wrong.
Hi Carlo I would probably go1 size bigger mate. These batteries are rippers. Cheers Steve
Haha. 20% of 200 is not 20 but 40amp hours. It just happened to be the first part of your review I landed on. I’m thinking of buying these batteries but today I heard a few bad things with handling heat but still trying to weigh up and decide
Im no mathematician lol. I have had these under the bonnet now for over 2 years, trouble free. Cheers Steve
What about now? Be good to see a full capacity test on all batteries. Especially base on some other popular youtubers results.. Turns out, they are no good.
Yeah I’ve seen those clips too. I will get them tested at some stage soon. Cheers Steve
Will be interesting mate
After all the shit that has gone down with this company. I wouldn't touch DCS batteries with a 10ft barge pole. I know you made this video well before all this happened Steve. Better put an edit in and add in this is my personal opinion.
I can’t argue with that logic at all. I can edit the details in the description but obviously not the clip. Good idea, I’ll get onto that. As Ive said in a few replies, this was my user experience at the time. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
Very nice sharing my dear respected friend full support and Big likes from Ahmed Ali Nizamani 💕🥰💞
Thanks very much for the kind words and support mate. Cheers Steve
wow , i just saw another reviewer is being sued for deformation for giving his review , hope your alright , regards
Thanks mate, but I think I’ll be ok, seeing as I like the product I’m safe lol. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
@@MudducksTouringAustralia But what IF you didn't like it???????
I guess that would have been a problem, I’ve said elsewhere I’m not sticking up for them, if the product or company has issues then they get what they get.
My point when I filmed this 2 years ago was I had no issues. They were still fine when I sold the car. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
@@MudducksTouringAustralia Good reply! Cheers mate.
7:30 If an AGM "only gives you 50 % discharge" , wouldn't that be 100%?? If that is ALL it gives....ALL is 100%.....
Fair enough, I'll give you that. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
Lithium and AGM can safely deliver 100% of its capacity
pure overpriced garbage!!! crap bms app completely out of whack and lots of buyers complaining of more than 30% capacity loss in under 100 cycles as well as being exposed to have had bogus false "positive" reviews online
Hi mate, I can not argue with all of the information that is out there now. I did not do a capacity test in the time I had them. This clip is about 2 years old now and at the time they were fine. I recently sold the car and they were still working fine. I am in no way sticking up for the company or what is happening with other RUclipsrs. My personal experience with them was fine, but I do understand what is happening now and hope this all gets resolved soon.
As I said this was my user experience and in no way supports or condemns any actions being taken these days. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
Junk batteries junk company
I completely understand your opinion, and all I can say is in my user experience I had no issues. As for the current situation, I can see that there may be some issues. I won't tick up for nor bag the company. This video was made nearly 2 years ago, long before any of the current stuff was going on. At the time of sale of the car the batteries were still in it and working fine.
I can only go on my personal user experience and am not getting into opinions on the company or current events. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve
Be careful what you say. You will get sued
I am aware but fortunately my user experience at the time was fine. Cheers Steve
Anyone supporting DCS won’t be followed by me, dirty company
I don’t support them mate, my video is 2 years old now. I did this back then. At the time I had no issues with them. I do not support the current situation. But my personal experience at the time was positive. I no longer have the car or the batteries. Cheers Steve
Well they come with brackets now.
No actual battery tests?...
Man you must have failed year 5 maths.... thats some weird +×÷%🤣
Never mind you could still do the budget for the liberals 🙄 🤣
A 200 charge rate is not 100amp...
A good bms for a lipo4 should stop before 100% it achieves little but stresses them the most.
You missed the cost saving of all the bits and bobs not needed. Let along easy and speed of charge.
A good bcdc 50amp one is over a 1000 and they also hate heat and slow charge. Let alone cost to be wired up right...
Fair enough mate, Never claimed to be a maths guru. Just a guy telling you my thoughts. Thanks for watching. Cheers Steve