Metro VR is frustratingly ALMOST perfect.

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  • Опубликовано: 4 дек 2024

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  • @FrontwaysLarry
    @FrontwaysLarry  13 дней назад +6

    Thanks for watching, folks! This video had a lot of unused clips, so there's an extra 6 minute video of solely stupid clips up for Channel Members & on Patreon if anyone wants to see the "outtakes" lol
    YT: ruclips.net/video/TvGOIdjGlDo/видео.html
    Patreon: www.patreon.com/posts/116440486

  • @genricjohn
    @genricjohn 13 дней назад +20

    the ONE TIME my vr is broken and such a banger of a game gets released

  • @TheFernMeadow
    @TheFernMeadow 11 дней назад +5

    The metro vr fan game was remade into a game called Convergence, its kinda like stalker and metro, good game would reccomend

  • @RickTS
    @RickTS 13 дней назад +7

    I remember some comment on a different video on this game mentioned something along the lines of like "this game sucks, only play if you want a turn off steam vent valves simulator" and guess what I ACTUALLY LOVED USING VALVED IN METRO AWAKENING, THEY FELT IMMERSIVE how you have to use both hands or else it's heavy, and I thought it was fun turning those valves!

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  13 дней назад +2

      I liked those too! For that to be the only take away for someone I'm really wondering how they ignored all the good parts otherwise lol

    • @RickTS
      @RickTS 13 дней назад

      @FrontwaysLarry I was watching a streamer play through thr whole game, and this guy wouldn't stop talking and NOT paying attention to diologue or story, it was really annoying had to stop after he didn't know what the plot even was anymore and was thinking the plot was something else completely

  • @squadhoodie8895
    @squadhoodie8895 13 дней назад +11

    The three BIG things that killed it for me were
    1-cutscenes in a VR game(cannot let become he norm)
    2-not being able to drop weapons and then instantly disappearing when you let go of them
    3-that wierd thing where if you walk into geometry by moving IRL or move away from a cutscene or scripted event y it get sent to a black void that muffles sound and is disorienting to get out of and sucks and is extremely frustrating when it happens in combat

    • @brandonlarson523
      @brandonlarson523 9 дней назад +1

      Cutscenes better become to norm. VR story games suffer so massively from a lack of cutscenes that it feels like every game is just a run and gun, it doesn't feel like I'm actually playing within a story. The cutscenes in this game are what make it so great to me

  • @dank4dayz
    @dank4dayz 13 дней назад +5

    I'm actually having a lot of fun with this game. I'm able to max the settings out completely on a 4070ti. I know a lot of people are having issues with it for some reason.

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  13 дней назад +2

      I was definitely having issues prior to release, but the recent update actually solved a lot of optimization issues for myself. Seriously such a fun game, though.

    • @Harvester88
      @Harvester88 13 дней назад

      You doing wireless or wired ? I have a 4070ti and a 78003d and I had to turn off AA and run some things on high or I’ll get severe reprojection.

    • @dank4dayz
      @dank4dayz 13 дней назад

      @@Harvester88 I've tried it with both and it's better to play wired into your PC with the link cable. Also, I'm running a custom build PC so it won't be a one to one comparison unfortunately. I have a I9 13900K overclocked and water cooled for my cpu and my 4070ti is overclocked as well. Also, I have an 850W power supply to be able to push all that power.

  • @lilyabaiden124
    @lilyabaiden124 13 дней назад +2

    When Larry the Exiled posts at night:

  • @TEvZET
    @TEvZET 13 дней назад +3

    If you likes paradox or hope the same dev made a single player extraction vr game called Convrgence

  • @AKCobra1120
    @AKCobra1120 13 дней назад +14

    Just once I'd like to see Half Life Alyx subjected to the same nit-picking every other game gets subjected to. Apparently having your guns go back to your holster is not immersive, yet picking your weapons from a magic weapons wheel that pops up in front of your face IS immersive. At least this game HAS weapons holsters.
    I wish I could have bonked people in Half Life Alyx, but alas, the game couldn't be bothered to include melee combat at all.
    Clicking on a ladder and instantly teleporting to the top is immersive too, I wish more games would copy that one (I think that one's been fixed, but it took a while, and it's not like climbing mechanics didn't exist when it was released).
    As for puzzles, I'd rather see no puzzle than have to do the same boring ass thing a million times. Honestly, the only game that's ever had puzzles that I actually LIKED and thought were cool was Boneworks.
    I'm not saying Half Life Alyx isn't a great game, it is. The voice acting is the best I've ever heard, the graphics are among the best, the detail is incredible, and it had some cool innovations like the gravity gloves. It's far, FAR from perfect though, and I know I'm in the minority but I just don't think it's the be-all end-all VR game everybody touts it as.
    Flame away.

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  13 дней назад +6

      I'm actually in the same camp! Half Life Alyx is actually still not perfect either, I'd say. Gets a little too much praise in some departments. No melee, no body, no sprint, and no jumping. I'm not a fan of either floating holsters or the weapon wheel for immersion, personally. Part of why I brought up Paradox of Hope is because I really prefer a full-body inventory system with IK arms. I had initially planned to talk in detail about POH and CONVRGENCE, but my usual runtime for these videos was already getting too long, this video would have been 20 minutes long if I rambled on fully. lol
      What HLA totally nailed was consistent graphics, though. Your hands, your gun, the environments, and even a bottle of beer are all the same fidelity. Part of the reason I bring up HLA at all for this video is because people keep comparing it to HLA, and barely anyone is mentioning the inconsistencies between assets in this game. I just want Vertigo Games to have an uncontested visual hit here instead of one that needs to make compromises due to standalone optimization, even if it's only a potential update down the line.
      Other than that, though, many of my issues simply come down to personal preference. Virtual Bro said it pretty well in their review, mentioning how the way they handled the inventory system here is actually much more welcoming to new VR users, which I totally agree is a good way to go. I just wish I had an Into the Radius style toggle to have a visible body and the ability to lose my gun for those of us that like some more in-depth mechanics.
      Appreciate the in depth comment by the way my dude

    • @AKCobra1120
      @AKCobra1120 13 дней назад +3

      @@FrontwaysLarry Fair enough, and like I said I'm not saying in any way that HLA isn't great. I just think people tend to give it a pass on things that other games get nailed on.
      To continue the comparison, while I haven't played Metro yet from what I've seen it seems to do some things better, some things worse, and some things about the same as HLA. I tend to agree that dropping your guns and having them magically snap back to your holster is a bit cringe, that should be a setting like in Arizona Sunshine. As for the graphics, I'm an old dude that remembers playing games at 320x200 with 64 colors at 12 FPS, so to me anything looks awesome :)

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  13 дней назад +1

      @@AKCobra1120 I mean if my Gameboy counts as low resolution gaming then I'm right there with ya when I was playing Kirby or Balloon Kid. lol

    • @SargonDragon
      @SargonDragon 8 дней назад

      Keep in mind that Alyx was released March 2020. It doesn't include innovations to VR gaming that came after its time. And it's not really fair to ding it for that. Heck, Alyx itself established many of the innovations that became standard in VR games. But really when you're comparing the "greatness" of a game, it does need to be relative to the time period it was released in.
      And that's a big part of where these comparisons to Alyx are coming from. Because it's not 2020 anymore, and the still very young VR industry as a whole has advanced significantly since those early days. Yet modern VR games are still eclipsed by this old VR game even when accounting for budget. And this is the case in large part because of the Questification of VR gaming which has dragged it backwards.

  • @TijnvanGimst
    @TijnvanGimst 13 дней назад +6

    It is not half life alyx, because its called Metro Awakening. People need to stop comparing every fckng game to half life alyx. Especially to lower budget productions.

  • @TheDarkVRKnight
    @TheDarkVRKnight 13 дней назад +2

    Great video Larry 👍🏻

  • @Milky-Milky
    @Milky-Milky 13 дней назад +1

    It’s good but kinda wish they did more with it tbh some outside elements would of been cooler

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  13 дней назад +1

      Outside elements as in the surface? If so I totally agree. I was really hoping for some more winter scenes outside, personally.
      Also wish they'd done some kind of weapon customization for scopes, lasers, etc., but oh well. lol

    • @dfprod.
      @dfprod. 9 дней назад

      @@FrontwaysLarry in metro 2033 (non redux) different weapon variations would have different attachments (like the ones you highlighted with the different stocks, one of those was actually better than the other lmao)

  • @mycomikko
    @mycomikko 13 дней назад

    you make really fantastic content its always exciting to see an upload from ya!

  • @str4y_bullet
    @str4y_bullet 6 дней назад

    Thanks for the fair review, this is the only content I've watched for Awakening besides the trailer. You did a good job pointing out the same things I'd typically notice but not kick the game out of bed for. Hope they add in weapon drop. Subbed and buying Awakening. Cheers
    P.S. Someone else recommended Lone Echo series, if you haven't played them, it's a VR must and deserves attention

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  6 дней назад

      @str4y_bullet welcome to the channel! My last video was actually about Lone Echo as it happens lol
      Totally agree it needs more attention.

  • @bearofthewest389
    @bearofthewest389 12 дней назад +1

    Its a shame that everybody mentions about the indie game meyro like vr game being delisted but not that the same dev released a new VR game this year that people should check out

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  12 дней назад

      Watch til the end, and the description 👍

  • @invisibleking726
    @invisibleking726 12 дней назад

    I was honestly surprised by the amount of praise I saw about Metro VR on RUclips. Every video I've seen until yours was absolute praise. This caught me off guard because, since even during the paid early access, the game has been toting an ~68% review score.

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  11 дней назад +1

      Yeah, part of why I angled the video this way was to mildly call out people not mentioning the inconsistencies. People have been buying it and leaving bad reviews, and even a lot of the positive reviews seem reluctant to do so like myself, talking about how they wish it had better aspects here and there.
      That said, being negative I always try to toe the line on for videos, since it usually attracts people who are really eager to get negative right back. Some comments on this video already reflecting that. lol
      This video is still mostly positive, but I believe in honest purchasing, and especially with the wide angle spectator cam, the textures are never truly easily visible until you get in-game.

    • @invisibleking726
      @invisibleking726 11 дней назад

      @FrontwaysLarry honestly, i'm probably gonna end up buying it this holiday, mainly due to your review giving me a balanced expectation of the game. Rather than hyping or trashing it.

  • @Brayden292
    @Brayden292 13 дней назад

    Hi Larry I'm that one person who your administrators tormented me as you said been a while since I saw a live stream or video

  • @juu226
    @juu226 13 дней назад

    Good point, some tubers just overhyped this game, it is very good, maybe best in 2024 on Steam (Alien RI still coming up) but there where saying it's "next HL:A" to often and some folks expected too much. There is no way near of collision and interactivity with non essential for gameplay objects but worth to play for moments like going between hanging bodies and pushing them by AK47.

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  13 дней назад +1

      Yeah, we need to set expectations realistically. I was genuinely surprised that barely anyone mentioned the low res textures/low poly models. It's on par with like 80% of Alyx, but it's importan to still show where it falls short. I have high expectations from Vertigo Games, and I want them to have a no-compromises hit, not just "oh well it was on standalone so oh well"

  • @Zuggeerr
    @Zuggeerr 13 дней назад

    I was hoping for into the metro, but it was just a dream.

  • @TheActualDylan
    @TheActualDylan 13 дней назад

    I hate the nintendo-length tutorials, but I suppose it makes sense for a game's first entry on a totally new platform - they're probably banking on this being some metro fans' first times in VR. speaking of, hoping some of those superfans come 'round and just build an upscaled texture pack ✨

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  13 дней назад

      Modders I could definitely see turning this thing around visually for sure! But yeah, it's definitely structured to be a good VR entry point, which I'm totally okay with. I saw some reviews saying the game is boring, so I felt like mentioning things relating to that a few times so that people looking for only action don't go looking here and getting disappointed. lol

  • @Enderking394
    @Enderking394 8 дней назад

    My biggest problem and why I can’t enjoy this game or half-life Alyx is the fact that I can’t turn on physical arms and a body. I hate floating hands because it crushes all immersion.

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  8 дней назад

      The only fair argument I hear from floating hand diehards is that they get taken out of the immersion if the fullbody IK doesn't line up with their actual arms, or it's janky. That I can get, but more games just need to do the Into the Radius mechanics of choosing for yourself.

  • @bearofthewest389
    @bearofthewest389 12 дней назад

    If I want Half Life Alyx I'll play Half Life Alyx, don't need every game to be like it or do loads of things like it

  • @1lardd
    @1lardd 12 дней назад +1

    do lone echo II pls

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  11 дней назад

      Thinking about it for sure! I don't see myself doing a whole video on it, but possibly as part of another video as a larger topic.

  • @stevedesormeau2974
    @stevedesormeau2974 8 дней назад

    in my opinion there is never anything Perfect and there will always be someone to criticize. this game is fantastic and involves a lot of super interesting things. not without flaws but it is so good that it is very easily forgotten. let's appreciate the good and be indulgent for the small less pleasant details. otherwise the vr will never be able to reach another level. excellent work metro. don't give up

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  8 дней назад

      Perfection shouldn't be chased, of course, but we'll never see positive change unless we're vocal about shortcomings.
      This video is overall positive about the game, but more so calling out how many other creators failed to point out the inconsistencies of the graphics in order to push people to buy the game, leading people into buying it and being let down. The game was initially majorly review-bombed on Steam, and many of the positive reviews are still wishing for better graphics.
      You can love something and still wish it was better.

  • @MysteryD
    @MysteryD 13 дней назад

    The problem is it suffers a serious visual downgrade on PSVR2

  • @brandonlarson523
    @brandonlarson523 9 дней назад

    Does'nt alyx also do the same thing with the guns? Whats the issue if Alyx is that good in your eyes? IMO this game is better than Alyx because Valve was so terrified of making even a single person motion sick that they removed any kind of movement that wasn't walking, I mean there isn't even sprinting. The game is great but man, it could have easily been 2x better if they just ignored the very small percent of people that would get motion sick

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  9 дней назад

      HLA does that opposite, actually, with the gun continuously floating regardless of grabbing or not. I feel the same way about that not being immersive either.
      Entirely agree with your other statements there. If you watch the video, you'll see my points come down to this regarding Half Life Alyx:
      - The game is getting a little too much praise, but that doesn't mean I don't like it. But it's not the new "Half Life Alyx" as people have been praising.
      - The textures are are inconsistent and models are low polygon in the environments, and the lighting looks so good that it actually is somewhat hidden in flatscreen recordings/trailers.
      My overall thoughts on the game are that it's a borderline masterpiece, but that I'm frustrated that no one else is mentioning the setbacks, which led to the game getting review bombed its first few days, and many leaving reviews that are reluctantly positive because of similar sentiments.

  • @michaeldeford1335
    @michaeldeford1335 13 дней назад +1

    PCVR deserves better and less stuck up gamers. That's the true thing holding back PCVR adoption. You demand perfection in a genre just getting started and then crap on the devs that try. PCVR will continue to die if you don't stop behaving like this.

    • @FrontwaysLarry
      @FrontwaysLarry  13 дней назад +4

      If you watch the video you'll see that my goal isn't to roast the game and tell you to not buy it, but more so to bring peoples' expectations down to earth. Many have been calling it a visual masterpiece here on RUclips, when the reality is that it has inconsistencies, and I want it to be a success so that it can potentially have the budget to look even better.
      I want people to enjoy this game, but to not buy it and be disappointed, leading to the game's initial review bombing since many people were expecting HLA visual fidelity due to that being the commonly repeated praise/comparison.
      I'm not demanding perfection, I'm demanding honest representation of shortcomings and hoping for better graphics later on if the game is a huge success.

    • @Deadforge
      @Deadforge 12 дней назад

      VR has been around forever yet is just now starting to feel free and creative as the 90s early 2000s for games. Its beautiful and stand-alone tech/systems like Oculus or Meta are so badass. I need a Quest 3, but even then, the Quest 2 is great.

    • @user-kf6fl5if4k
      @user-kf6fl5if4k 10 дней назад

      I mean people can say whatever they want. I watch a lot of reviews, but never believe it till I see it for myself. As far as gaming goes, I base my experience based on how much fun I have. Metro, story wise, fun factor and VR implementation, is one of the best I’ve played. Wouldn’t matter if everyone on earth trashed it, it’s a very well written story.

    • @SargonDragon
      @SargonDragon 8 дней назад

      The thing is that PCVR _has_ games that make full use of its capabilities to great effect. But these are mostly things like sims and VRChat. So there's this effect where mobile VR games are ported to PCVR, and PCVR gamers are not impressed and are not drawn away from their sims or VRChat to play it.
      This causes devs to think that there's not a market there when there is. In fact, there's a very hungry and affluent market there. But to actually appeal to that market, they need to offer higher quality games rather than just expecting PCVR gamers to lower their standards.

  • @OneLastBrainCellToGo
    @OneLastBrainCellToGo 13 дней назад +1

    First!

  • @mkdock
    @mkdock 13 дней назад

    After batman this game feals basic