Join the Modern Wisdom Community - modernwisdom.locals.com/. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:40 How Does Dopamine Work? 10:27 Why Men Feel Sad After Sex 20:20 Dopamine Detox Truths 24:48 How Social Media Impacts Dopamine Levels 31:40 Which People are More Likely to Become Addicted? 37:45 Preventing Addiction Through Purpose 43:55 Utilising Discomfort to Rebalance Dopamine 50:37 Anna’s Tips to Control Dopamine 1:02:49 Where to Find Anna
That quote is not a concise as the author or you think it is. I haven’t read the book, but not knowing what type of person he’s talking about, I can respond to that with “When man couldn’t find meaning, man invented religion.” Religion is the opposite of pleasure. If we’re just talking about some average dude who fails to understand what it is to be a responsible adult or has mental issues or had an unstable upbringing, then I can see how lots of these cases resort to “pleasure”….assuming pleasures here mean the kind that leads to addictive behavior. I’m not sure if deep meaning and these people belong in one paragraph though. They’re trying to make sense of their issues maybe, but not deep meaning. Please tell me you butchered that quote or add some context- because the book seems to be doing ok on Amazon it seems
You can tell when a person genuinely knows their shit. As an addict myself who’s been clean for 10 years, I can attest that this seems to be the way it works. I also like the fact that she explains things in layman’s terms.
Really selling the present moment there, “Being in the moment is hard and is all those awful things including being bored and being anxious and that’s kind of the point”. Really it’s the opposite, because once you get past the point of comparing it to your distractions or recalling the past it’s pretty elite
I felt a small twinge when, at the end, they talked about rats being given a drug after a year of being clean, and immediately going back to square one. If I can refrain from having a beer for a week or two, I can live without evening thinking of it for months and months, but after one delicious, cold beer, I want some more, and the next day, too. I think it may be dramatic to call myself an addict for that, but I have no idea where the line between strong desire and addiction lies. Anyway well done on the hard work it must have taken to get the 10-year-clean. Good luck with keeping that going.
I've heard some AAs disregard the scientific aspect of addiction, even rejecting it because it isn't part of unity service, recovery, and the Big Book. I don't agree because understanding the science helps understand that addiction isn't a moral issue. It isn't only a spiritual issue. It's complex in all aspects and yet simplistic with simple solutions if one is sincere to take that road. I think understanding the science behind addiction makes the road easier.
I noticed this “hedonic set point” when I joined the National Guard. We would go to Fort Bragg for 15 days and be deprived of adequate sleep, light at night, good food. We were beset by mosquitoes and chiggers. It was strenuous and miserable. But when I returned to my normal life, I was ecstatic. A fast food burger was a source of ecstasy. An air conditioned room was supremely pleasurable. Now I’m retired, but I use things like backpacking trips to achieve the same effects.
A student told me that while in the service all their shoes were thrown into one pile, and they wore whatever they could find, same with toothbrushes, soap, female necessities, etc. And all that you've mentioned would make for a brutal experience with tremendous gratitude once those things were returned. Thank you for your service to our country!!
Yes. I go for 10 days meditation retreats once in a while. No phone, no talks, no books etc, just yourself and nature. You come out so peaceful, grateful and focused.
The social media segment is very important. People have developed an addiction to group outrage, offered through social media, to fuel their dopamine hits (and fuel their resulting depression). How can social media be altered to limit this damage to individuals and society? Part of me thinks social media is just a net negative, period.
Your good questions are why I subbed. You’re a very careful listener. Im just realizing this now. I’m 37. My quest for knowledge started when I was 17. I’ve been inspired to do a lot of things better by quality people. I’ve never been inspired to listen more carefully. That’s a first. Thanks Chris.
This year I went by the sea in Bulgaria with a couple of very fun friends. We almost didn't touch our phones and were constantly together, sharing stories, playing card games, relaxing, hitting the clubs and so on. Once the vacation was over we returned to our normal lives full of technology and social media and this was the time I realised how meaningless and stressful is this virtual life. For a couple of days, I was feeling horrible, I felt a huge dip in my mood and motivation and when I asked my friends if they felt the same they reported similar feelings. It was soo good to be free from technology even for a week and be with people that you like. People should strive to find alternative ways to connect to others and bring meaning to their lives outside the internet because the internet is taking more than it's giving us.
Boy , you articulated that Nick! Damn thinking is killing me. I’ve been letting go for a few years now and it seems like I’m making terrible slow progress, oh well.
Quit the nicotine if ya can, I did it by making it a priority, I kept quitting and failing and one time I was able to keep going, but I did gain about 60 lbs to be honest. But really nick ur not that bad good luck man
@@JG-it9noseems. But what it seems like isn’t it always. Maybe you should write it all down. Make some poetry. How can this weakness be flipped into strength? And you want to moan about your life don’t even bother replying. Anyhow, write it out, hope it helpz
My brother is addicted to his monkey mind. He cannot stop it tho and believes all this brain activity means he's super intelligent. Even tho he has poor health and cannot sleep at night. I feel so sorry for him and am worried. He looks unwell, always complains he is tired, feels miserable but also cannot stay away from devices. He's stuck in a loop constantly chasing the next big thought/idea. I guess that's a dopamine hit. But that means living most of the time in a depleted state.
I’m 62 and have struggled with addiction and depression all my life. I was put on lots of different anti-depressants. I will make this short. Whether you are male or female, get your hormones check by a doctor that knows what they’re doing. I was horribly low on testosterone and needed hormone supplements. It changed my life!!!!!!!
@@sithewiseguy it can be as deep and consuming as a porn addiction. Its often compared as women's version of mens porn addiction. I agree there are more obvious degrees to this, because naked pics are naked pics, whereas a novel can run the full spectrum. Yet it does hit the same brain receptors.
@@sithewiseguy As a woman, it may seem harmless compare to porn that men get addicted to, but its still has harmful effects to the point it can alters women's perception of reality. In many smutty novels or fiction, young girls get groomed in thinking men who are nefarious could make for good romantic partners. Hence why the "bad boy troupe" is popular. Another effect is taking it too far until one projects unrealistic expectations to real world people or get addicted to masturbation. I can't say for all women, but for me it really affected my mental wellbeing and productivity. Like the doc said, you keep trying to reach that high until you cannot normally function anymore.
I've always wondered why I can't seem to hold onto happiness. Walking home after a great evening with friends always made me somewhat sad and down. It's maybe not just this. But it's a relief to know there are other things at work too.
Dang you know it’s true when you really don’t want it to be. I grew up very religious where everything pleasurable was a sin. I lost my faith, and got over religious guilt and thought I could do whatever I wanted. Turns out, not so much.
I think some on the religious side get caught up on reacting to the materialism and hedonism, solely focused on what not to do, rather than living for what we ought to do. When I speak to men in their journey of recovery I tell them this focus has to change once one's addiction is under reasonable control.
the older i get, the more i realize that the bible is right about a lot of things. Not in a real sense, but in a metaphorical one. And I'm an agnostic.
@@hosmerhomeboy For sure. I think myths embed cultural wisdom and values in a symbolic format. It's not a perfect 1:1 translation, but it's proved durable enough over the years.
@@hypergraphic I think you're right. I put an evolutionary lens on it, and it makes sense. Every successful civilization gas a few things in common. Mostly I think they curtail individual excesses, and provide a structure where men who aren't on the top still have an interest in propping up the system.
Oh I am thrilled to have learned whenever I force myself to sit down and listen to one of my roommates boring stories it's actually doing me good! This whole time I thought it was killing me LOL. Seriously I was about to move out and now instead of seeking some greener pastures I'm going to plop my butt down in the Lumpy easy chair and soak up the banal
These conversations are so incredibly helpful for me, as I'm struggling with mild addiction and ultimately dopamine spikes and lows. This information helps me to at least to understand whats happening. I am so grateful for Chris and great job interviewing man!
Getting ready to watch this. I tell ya, with drugs, alcohol, tobacco,....now it looks like we have detox from our phones-high tech lifestyles. I don't know about anyone else, but it seems I've spent most of a lifetime trying to manage all of those things. Ugh
Me too, Johnna. In my case, a lifetime trying to manage all those things-and mostly failing… Ugh, indeed! I hope you’re Ok, and that you have found something in this video that resonates, and that helps.
I never listen to 1 hour videos until this one. Totally worth it and I bought her book after. Excellent guest and excellent interview. First rate content. Nice job!
What a great episode! I've listened to it twice already and I keep returning to it as there is just so much to learn from Dr Lembke. Thank you so much!
Anna is so helpful and easy to listen to!! Her tips and tricks at the end were very useful for me. I also love that she isn't an abstinence only person. I recommend her talks to anyone and everyone. We all have some sort of addictive behaviors, right?
I'm nearing *31 days* of avoiding the very thing which spikes my dopamine to high levels and makes me feel like crap (porn). It has helped tremendously, my mood has improved and I have less anxious and depressive symptoms; I do think what would help me much more is exercise and socialising which I don't really do.
I don't know where she learned all this invaluable information, I wish that more counselors knew all this stuff, it sure would help all the people struggling for years with addiction
I've been meaning to thank you for sometime Chris. Your interview style and obvious preparation, listening skills and quick wit make you the most interesting and genuine interviewer online at the moment in my opinion. I find this video on dopamine a good companion to the video on genetics. The interplay between nature, neuroplasticity and environment is covered well between the two and offers great practical help to, or views on, day to day life. Thanks mate.
She’s very well spoken mashallah. She makes complicated information very easy to understand and I like that she speaks calmly, professionally and slowly. Lots of speakers on the podcast cuss a lot / speak too fast
I just came across this.......what an amazing talk! I have worked in a 5-12 school for 28 years; and since the phones were placed into the hands of our children, it is hard for our students to even become engaged in education.....because they become so easily bored. It's not only the students who demand the phones be with them at school, but most of the parents do too and call and text their child at will......so we find the administrators trying to accommodate everyone. It truly is a mess at this point.....and setting limits and encouraging some self-control is the only way to go, yet someone needs to have the backbone to say enough is enough!
As a recovering hypersexual person, this talk has blown my mind. Thank you so much. I especially liked how the concept of homeostasis between pleasure and pain (and the fact that in order to reshift our baseline towards a more healthy default value we need to purposely leave behind the pursuit of dopamine) is so freakishly perfectly in line with the philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer (one of my favorite philosophers that has helped me so much in my incipient recovery process).
Detoxing has been around for a good long while. For myself, being Catholic, Lent was a proscribed period of deprivation. It makes sense to give up a "pleasure/luxury" for 40 days. I understand that other religions have similar ritual voluntary abstaining. Perhaps ancient shamans/priests were onto something
I am addicted to food! I love love love food! I love to shop for food, cook/bake the food, serve the food and eat the food while talking about the food.
Really fascinating. Totally makes sense as a mom because as parents we need to determine these things and see them in our children and teach them to discern this. Also, when you read the book of Ecclesiastes, the author explains this incredibly well.
the best way to actually do a dopamine reset is by doing a 3-5 day water fast. When you reach day 3 to 5 the dopamergenic resets because the brain thinks its starvation time and the best way to help you get food is by resetting all your senses. smell, taste etc. after that things reset back to baseline. things will seem fresh and new, taste would seem extremely potent when its not. you would basically feel closes to what a baby experiences.
Again great interview! Here are few random parts I noted manually, with pen on paper: 1. HALT- Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired - as perfect foundation to develop addiction. 2. Visious assimetry - as we are addicted, we need more and more, to achieve less, and less. 3. "My face is on the cover of few book romances" I just found it funny. Thumb up for self distance! :D Regards, Mark, Poland.
This is the first time I have listened to a full interview of yours and I have to say you are exceptionally lucid. Your ability to understand and relay what you have understood is phenomenal. You can hear Anna’s amazement in your instant understanding. I have watched lots of your 10 minute clips but you made a podcast subscriber. Thank you.
3:00 Universal symptoms of withdrawal from any addictive substance: Anxiety Irritability Imnsomnia Depression Craving 37:00 H.A.L.T Hungry Angry Lonely Tired When you have all this emotions you are more likely to drink alcohol
One of your best interviews, Chris, you're always fantastic. I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion, thank you both 💎 Now to turn it into gold in my own life🧠⭐️
This book was great and really help me understand my own addictions and how to be compassionate and action-oriented in healing from them. Thanks for a good interview and thanks to Anna for helping me.
Another "food for thought"-podcast that I really enjoyed; what an interesting guest and topic. Learning the mechanism behind dopamine and how your body always works to maintain its balance, did explain a lot of daily feelings for me, so thanks for this eye opener. Love how you give your guest all the time she/he needs to explain their point and with it, the time your viewers get to really think about it and/or learn something from it.
I really appreciate the extended discussion about the role dopamine plays in addiction. I agree the social media is in its own way an addictive behavior and that it’s a good thing from time to time limit or curtail the time spent on it
Listening to this reminded me of Lamentations 2:24. It is written by King Solomon. He looks for pleasure in wisdom, he fulfills all his desires, he builds grand things, and then declares it all vanity. He sums it all by saying that there is nothing better than to eat and drink and find enjoyment in work.
I think there should be a "reservation" in the UK maybe 50 square miles where no technology beyond 1970s can be allowed. No internet at all! This place could be the answer to the mental health crisis.
Pleasure is in the journey. You can't find it directly, it is the result of having made the journey not the destination. That's why we say to shoot for the moon, the metaphor for the impossible destination you can't /literally/ achieve, as such lofty goals will provide the richest journey, landing you amongst the stars.
Man, this was so great to help understand addictions and even the dopamine that comes from seemingly innocuous OCD tasks like check-marking items on a to-do list. Insightful interview which I appreciate. Thank you.
Great Episode! Some very cerebral and potent questions, quickly becoming a master of your craft, so impressed and always entertained. "Take me there Anna!" Loved it man, I think she did too 😀
Fantastic video. One thing worth mentioning in regards to having a meaningful and rewarding job...yeah let's just forget about that, there will always be a large population of people that will work a job they hate until they day they retire (if they can retire).
Good video, hard subject, several new contributions, keep on. The shift from fear to love through changing identity through healthy mental programming and experiences that awaken the mind can help this in big amount.
Such a fascinating conversation. I found it highly informational and helpful in analyzing my ‘dopamine enhancing’ behaviors and evaluating my choices in life. Thank you so much.
I got a challenge for anyone. Try to sit for ONE FULL HOUR without any distractions. No TV. No phone. No laptop. Just go outside or even sit on your sofa for one hour and see how long you can last.
This video im pretty sure just changed my life...i was kinda knew how dopamine worked but i never thought of deliberately chasing pain to keep it in check. Especially some one whos really trying to control an alcoholic addiction this knowledge really gives me strength to lay off the stuff and getting out of my comfort zone more.. it make sense to work for your dopamine instead of always taking it the easy way and then dealing with the harsh come down.. obviously i doubt a natural dopamine high is not quite as good as drugs or alcohol but i believe i can maybe do those in moderation if i can learn to maintain a healthy basline level of dopamine... If not id still rather my happiness be more balanced. It gets really tiring feeling either really good or really bad and not being very productive. Alcohol's a bitch but this video i believe deff just helped me. Its all about strength really
Thank you Chris and Anna for this very enlightening and critical conversation. I would like to know or hear you do a segment that addresses or connects the "dopamine/addictive cycles and behaviors with trauma/complex PTSD/and the childhood experiences that seem directly related to the addiction and behaviors. Is the propensity for this dopamine hit/high intrinsically there in each of us as humans since time began or did it emerge as a response to the misperception born out of unhealthy dysfunctional attachment patterns and experiences in childhood and becomes our insane, all consuming search for something to fill the void, the dark hole, the emptiness felt inside from a lack of true, authentic, loving connection needed for healthy, balanced development and maturity.
@@michaelr1225 - I disagree, sort of … I’ve watched every video i can find and have time for. He does interrupt but his intension is to further the conversation not monopolize or direct the conversation
Join the Modern Wisdom Community - modernwisdom.locals.com/. Here’s the timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:40 How Does Dopamine Work?
10:27 Why Men Feel Sad After Sex
20:20 Dopamine Detox Truths
24:48 How Social Media Impacts Dopamine Levels
31:40 Which People are More Likely to Become Addicted?
37:45 Preventing Addiction Through Purpose
43:55 Utilising Discomfort to Rebalance Dopamine
50:37 Anna’s Tips to Control Dopamine
1:02:49 Where to Find Anna
10:27 This is the perfect way to start No-Fap November!
32:25 Bro great question, I get why you do this for a living.
Ummm i dont feel sad after sex. i feel incredible! GRRRrR!
Articulate and thoughtful questions, prompts and insight :)
"This relentless pursuit of pleasure makes us miserable."
"When a person can’t find a deep of meaning, they distract themselves with pleasures" -Viktor Frankl, author of Man's Search for Meaning
This resume my whole life lmao
I love that book
I love the deep meaning of entertaining myself with pleasures.
Human brains will be these sad addicted digital slaves in the near future.
That quote is not a concise as the author or you think it is. I haven’t read the book, but not knowing what type of person he’s talking about, I can respond to that with “When man couldn’t find meaning, man invented religion.” Religion is the opposite of pleasure. If we’re just talking about some average dude who fails to understand what it is to be a responsible adult or has mental issues or had an unstable upbringing, then I can see how lots of these cases resort to “pleasure”….assuming pleasures here mean the kind that leads to addictive behavior. I’m not sure if deep meaning and these people belong in one paragraph though. They’re trying to make sense of their issues maybe, but not deep meaning. Please tell me you butchered that quote or add some context- because the book seems to be doing ok on Amazon it seems
You can tell when a person genuinely knows their shit. As an addict myself who’s been clean for 10 years, I can attest that this seems to be the way it works. I also like the fact that she explains things in layman’s terms.
Really selling the present moment there, “Being in the moment is hard and is all those awful things including being bored and being anxious and that’s kind of the point”. Really it’s the opposite, because once you get past the point of comparing it to your distractions or recalling the past it’s pretty elite
@@keeleythompson1644I found this to be insightful 👍
The new clever addiction that’s legal because the tech lords and government all benefit highly from it as it extracts human awareness from society.
I felt a small twinge when, at the end, they talked about rats being given a drug after a year of being clean, and immediately going back to square one.
If I can refrain from having a beer for a week or two, I can live without evening thinking of it for months and months, but after one delicious, cold beer, I want some more, and the next day, too.
I think it may be dramatic to call myself an addict for that, but I have no idea where the line between strong desire and addiction lies.
Anyway well done on the hard work it must have taken to get the 10-year-clean. Good luck with keeping that going.
I've heard some AAs disregard the scientific aspect of addiction, even rejecting it because it isn't part of unity service, recovery, and the Big Book. I don't agree because understanding the science helps understand that addiction isn't a moral issue. It isn't only a spiritual issue. It's complex in all aspects and yet simplistic with simple solutions if one is sincere to take that road. I think understanding the science behind addiction makes the road easier.
I noticed this “hedonic set point” when I joined the National Guard. We would go to Fort Bragg for 15 days and be deprived of adequate sleep, light at night, good food. We were beset by mosquitoes and chiggers. It was strenuous and miserable. But when I returned to my normal life, I was ecstatic. A fast food burger was a source of ecstasy. An air conditioned room was supremely pleasurable. Now I’m retired, but I use things like backpacking trips to achieve the same effects.
A student told me that while in the service all their shoes were thrown into one pile, and they wore whatever they could find, same with toothbrushes, soap, female necessities, etc. And all that you've mentioned would make for a brutal experience with tremendous gratitude once those things were returned. Thank you for your service to our country!!
Thanks for paying your taxes so I could have the experience of serving my country. Seriously. I owe you.
Yes. I go for 10 days meditation retreats once in a while. No phone, no talks, no books etc, just yourself and nature. You come out so peaceful, grateful and focused.
you've got it! ... but, an hour in an ice bath is a bridge too far for me!!!
The social media segment is very important. People have developed an addiction to group outrage, offered through social media, to fuel their dopamine hits (and fuel their resulting depression). How can social media be altered to limit this damage to individuals and society? Part of me thinks social media is just a net negative, period.
Your good questions are why I subbed. You’re a very careful listener. Im just realizing this now. I’m 37. My quest for knowledge started when I was 17. I’ve been inspired to do a lot of things better by quality people. I’ve never been inspired to listen more carefully. That’s a first. Thanks Chris.
Great comment!
Well put! His great questions made me subscribe as well, but the inspirational aspect of it wasn't salient until I just read your comment...
That's true, Chris is sometimes more interesting than the guest!
This year I went by the sea in Bulgaria with a couple of very fun friends. We almost didn't touch our phones and were constantly together, sharing stories, playing card games, relaxing, hitting the clubs and so on. Once the vacation was over we returned to our normal lives full of technology and social media and this was the time I realised how meaningless and stressful is this virtual life. For a couple of days, I was feeling horrible, I felt a huge dip in my mood and motivation and when I asked my friends if they felt the same they reported similar feelings. It was soo good to be free from technology even for a week and be with people that you like. People should strive to find alternative ways to connect to others and bring meaning to their lives outside the internet because the internet is taking more than it's giving us.
Thanks for sharing your story, I thought dopamine fast means not doing anything making us happy, you have cleared that.
We used to all live this every weekend with friends before smartphones
This is why so many people are depressed. Our modern society is built perfectly for depression.
This woman is extremely knowledgeable
As someone who is addicted to nicotine, self pleasure, my phone, and worst of all, thinking, this video is so very helpful.
Boy , you articulated that Nick!
Damn thinking is killing me.
I’ve been letting go for a few years now and it seems like I’m making terrible slow progress, oh well.
Quit the nicotine if ya can, I did it by making it a priority, I kept quitting and failing and one time I was able to keep going, but I did gain about 60 lbs to be honest. But really nick ur not that bad good luck man
@@JG-it9noseems. But what it seems like isn’t it always. Maybe you should write it all down. Make some poetry. How can this weakness be flipped into strength? And you want to moan about your life don’t even bother replying. Anyhow, write it out, hope it helpz
My brother is addicted to his monkey mind. He cannot stop it tho and believes all this brain activity means he's super intelligent. Even tho he has poor health and cannot sleep at night. I feel so sorry for him and am worried. He looks unwell, always complains he is tired, feels miserable but also cannot stay away from devices. He's stuck in a loop constantly chasing the next big thought/idea. I guess that's a dopamine hit. But that means living most of the time in a depleted state.
This woman's research is invaluable to anyone wanting to understand their mood swings better.
What I learned from all of this. Is that of course, all things in moderation...and that includes pleasure.
A victim of pleasure.
I’m 62 and have struggled with addiction and depression all my life. I was put on lots of different anti-depressants. I will make this short. Whether you are male or female, get your hormones check by a doctor that knows what they’re doing. I was horribly low on testosterone and needed hormone supplements. It changed my life!!!!!!!
Good on Anna for admitting her own addiction and how it effectes her
Agree. Fairly innocent one though, made me feel like such a degenerate about my drug of choice. Lol!
@@sithewiseguy it can be as deep and consuming as a porn addiction. Its often compared as women's version of mens porn addiction. I agree there are more obvious degrees to this, because naked pics are naked pics, whereas a novel can run the full spectrum. Yet it does hit the same brain receptors.
Reminds me of a girl I dated. The amount of romance novels was insane. At some point I’m going to read one just to see what they get off on.
@@sithewiseguy As a woman, it may seem harmless compare to porn that men get addicted to, but its still has harmful effects to the point it can alters women's perception of reality. In many smutty novels or fiction, young girls get groomed in thinking men who are nefarious could make for good romantic partners. Hence why the "bad boy troupe" is popular.
Another effect is taking it too far until one projects unrealistic expectations to real world people or get addicted to masturbation. I can't say for all women, but for me it really affected my mental wellbeing and productivity. Like the doc said, you keep trying to reach that high until you cannot normally function anymore.
@@anisahs2110 I don't get why girls won't just try and find a relationship.
I've always wondered why I can't seem to hold onto happiness. Walking home after a great evening with friends always made me somewhat sad and down. It's maybe not just this. But it's a relief to know there are other things at work too.
"Titillating ourselves to death" This is a brilliant and enlightening conversation.
Listening to this provided a great dopamine hit for my RUclips addiction. 😂
Dang you know it’s true when you really don’t want it to be. I grew up very religious where everything pleasurable was a sin. I lost my faith, and got over religious guilt and thought I could do whatever I wanted. Turns out, not so much.
I think some on the religious side get caught up on reacting to the materialism and hedonism, solely focused on what not to do, rather than living for what we ought to do. When I speak to men in their journey of recovery I tell them this focus has to change once one's addiction is under reasonable control.
the older i get, the more i realize that the bible is right about a lot of things. Not in a real sense, but in a metaphorical one. And I'm an agnostic.
@@hosmerhomeboy For sure. I think myths embed cultural wisdom and values in a symbolic format. It's not a perfect 1:1 translation, but it's proved durable enough over the years.
@@hypergraphic I think you're right. I put an evolutionary lens on it, and it makes sense. Every successful civilization gas a few things in common. Mostly I think they curtail individual excesses, and provide a structure where men who aren't on the top still have an interest in propping up the system.
Thats why the growing secularism in our society is going to lead to higher rates or depression and collapse
Oh I am thrilled to have learned whenever I force myself to sit down and listen to one of my roommates boring stories it's actually doing me good! This whole time I thought it was killing me LOL. Seriously I was about to move out and now instead of seeking some greener pastures I'm going to plop my butt down in the Lumpy easy chair and soak up the banal
Well thanks Angel. I’m gonna move out.
Maybe try active listening and you'd get more out if it.
this is so funny, glad you found your way :)
44:00 Excellent Exercise. Expose to small amounts of pain to get the scales to move back to the pleasure side.
These conversations are so incredibly helpful for me, as I'm struggling with mild addiction and ultimately dopamine spikes and lows. This information helps me to at least to understand whats happening. I am so grateful for Chris and great job interviewing man!
Same here I have numerous addictions.
Getting ready to watch this. I tell ya, with drugs, alcohol, tobacco,....now it looks like we have detox from our phones-high tech lifestyles. I don't know about anyone else, but it seems I've spent most of a lifetime trying to manage all of those things. Ugh
Me too, Johnna. In my case, a lifetime trying to manage all those things-and mostly failing… Ugh, indeed! I hope you’re Ok, and that you have found something in this video that resonates, and that helps.
I never listen to 1 hour videos until this one. Totally worth it and I bought her book after. Excellent guest and excellent interview. First rate content. Nice job!
Thanks! Breakthrough
One of the best interviews of the podcast. I mean, all are great but this one is gold.
What a great episode! I've listened to it twice already and I keep returning to it as there is just so much to learn from Dr Lembke. Thank you so much!
Anna is so helpful and easy to listen to!!
Her tips and tricks at the end were very useful for me. I also love that she isn't an abstinence only person. I recommend her talks to anyone and everyone. We all have some sort of addictive behaviors, right?
I'm nearing *31 days* of avoiding the very thing which spikes my dopamine to high levels and makes me feel like crap (porn). It has helped tremendously, my mood has improved and I have less anxious and depressive symptoms; I do think what would help me much more is exercise and socialising which I don't really do.
Chris Williamson is such an amazing interviewer! He’s a great listener! This is my first time watching him.
I don't know where she learned all this invaluable information, I wish that more counselors knew all this stuff, it sure would help all the people struggling for years with addiction
I've been meaning to thank you for sometime Chris. Your interview style and obvious preparation, listening skills and quick wit make you the most interesting and genuine interviewer online at the moment in my opinion.
I find this video on dopamine a good companion to the video on genetics. The interplay between nature, neuroplasticity and environment is covered well between the two and offers great practical help to, or views on, day to day life.
Thanks mate.
She’s very well spoken mashallah. She makes complicated information very easy to understand and I like that she speaks calmly, professionally and slowly. Lots of speakers on the podcast cuss a lot / speak too fast
I just came across this.......what an amazing talk! I have worked in a 5-12 school for 28 years; and since the phones were placed into the hands of our children, it is hard for our students to even become engaged in education.....because they become so easily bored. It's not only the students who demand the phones be with them at school, but most of the parents do too and call and text their child at will......so we find the administrators trying to accommodate everyone. It truly is a mess at this point.....and setting limits and encouraging some self-control is the only way to go, yet someone needs to have the backbone to say enough is enough!
Such an important realization to be mindful of how to balance pain and pleasure. Guess thats where: "everything in moderation" comes from.
practicing being in the moment!
I love this.
I'm going to start doing this everyday.
Thx so much!
I love this lady. So honest and empathetic. I ordered her book. Excellent
This woman is on another level with knowledge like this😊
Doing pleasurable things makes you unhappy.
Sounds so counterintuitive, but the way she explains it, it makes so much sense.
As a recovering hypersexual person, this talk has blown my mind. Thank you so much.
I especially liked how the concept of homeostasis between pleasure and pain (and the fact that in order to reshift our baseline towards a more healthy default value we need to purposely leave behind the pursuit of dopamine) is so freakishly perfectly in line with the philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer (one of my favorite philosophers that has helped me so much in my incipient recovery process).
Thank you, I am trying to quit weed.
My dopamine fix is learning and listening to people who really know their stuff. This was a really enjoyable video, thankyou.
Detoxing has been around for a good long while. For myself, being Catholic, Lent was a proscribed period of deprivation. It makes sense to give up a "pleasure/luxury" for 40 days. I understand that other religions have similar ritual voluntary abstaining. Perhaps ancient shamans/priests were onto something
I am addicted to food! I love love love food! I love to shop for food, cook/bake the food, serve the food and eat the food while talking about the food.
Really fascinating. Totally makes sense as a mom because as parents we need to determine these things and see them in our children and teach them to discern this.
Also, when you read the book of Ecclesiastes, the author explains this incredibly well.
the best way to actually do a dopamine reset is by doing a 3-5 day water fast. When you reach day 3 to 5 the dopamergenic resets because the brain thinks its starvation time and the best way to help you get food is by resetting all your senses. smell, taste etc. after that things reset back to baseline. things will seem fresh and new, taste would seem extremely potent when its not. you would basically feel closes to what a baby experiences.
Again great interview! Here are few random parts I noted manually, with pen on paper:
1. HALT- Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired - as perfect foundation to develop addiction.
2. Visious assimetry - as we are addicted, we need more and more, to achieve less, and less.
3. "My face is on the cover of few book romances" I just found it funny. Thumb up for self distance! :D
Regards, Mark, Poland.
This is why people with adhd are so prone to addiction.. Love this video
43:55 : Things Involving Discomfort, Concentration, Boring things. Balances Pain Pleasure sides.
This is the first time I have listened to a full interview of yours and I have to say you are exceptionally lucid. Your ability to understand and relay what you have understood is phenomenal. You can hear Anna’s amazement in your instant understanding.
I have watched lots of your 10 minute clips but you made a podcast subscriber. Thank you.
Thanks Henry, welcome aboard ⚓️
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Universal symptoms of withdrawal from any addictive substance:
Anxiety
Irritability
Imnsomnia
Depression
Craving
37:00
H.A.L.T
Hungry
Angry
Lonely
Tired
When you have all this emotions you are more likely to drink alcohol
One of your best interviews, Chris, you're always fantastic. I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion, thank you both 💎
Now to turn it into gold in my own life🧠⭐️
This book was great and really help me understand my own addictions and how to be compassionate and action-oriented in healing from them. Thanks for a good interview and thanks to Anna for helping me.
Loved this! Very interesting Anna said: “well I’m not on social media”. Walking the talk. Leadership exemplified!!! 😊
Another "food for thought"-podcast that I really enjoyed; what an interesting guest and topic. Learning the mechanism behind dopamine and how your body always works to maintain its balance, did explain a lot of daily feelings for me, so thanks for this eye opener. Love how you give your guest all the time she/he needs to explain their point and with it, the time your viewers get to really think about it and/or learn something from it.
I really enjoy his interviews because he asks such intelligent and insightful questions
From educational podcasts perspective, this host is one of the more intelligent ones!
I just want to fast and then become addicted to actually constructive work.
Anyone working a 12 step programme will concur with everything this wise woman said.🙏
Oh my God! I just went through that 2week cycle! Incredible. 😮
I really appreciate the extended discussion about the role dopamine plays in addiction. I agree the social media is in its own way an addictive behavior and that it’s a good thing from time to time limit or curtail the time spent on it
Amazing podcast. I am blown away
Listening to this reminded me of Lamentations 2:24. It is written by King Solomon. He looks for pleasure in wisdom, he fulfills all his desires, he builds grand things, and then declares it all vanity. He sums it all by saying that there is nothing better than to eat and drink and find enjoyment in work.
Incredibly insightful and everything she says coincides with my perceptions. Thanks Chris and Ms. Lembke!
I think there should be a "reservation" in the UK maybe 50 square miles where no technology beyond 1970s can be allowed. No internet at all! This place could be the answer to the mental health crisis.
@@xdrowssap4456 it is possible. Enough people have to want it and vocalise it.
what an excellent guest! i learned 3-4 things
So…pursue the difficult things, that being more growth and success and your brain will reward you anyway due to the pleasure pain balance. Amazing
Getting a dopamine hit while learning about dopamine fasts. Very useful information and should help change my life.
Very much the science behind Jordan Peterson. Love this.
Pleasure is in the journey.
You can't find it directly, it is the result of having made the journey not the destination. That's why we say to shoot for the moon, the metaphor for the impossible destination you can't /literally/ achieve, as such lofty goals will provide the richest journey, landing you amongst the stars.
This gentleman asks the best questions
Extremely underrated...you did it..it's worthy to watch this
Man, this was so great to help understand addictions and even the dopamine that comes from seemingly innocuous OCD tasks like check-marking items on a to-do list. Insightful interview which I appreciate. Thank you.
"Titillate ourselves to extinction"... What a wonderful image! Chuckling to oblivion 👏🏻👏🏻😊
"England will collapse giggling into the English Channel" - (from memory) Peter Cook, circa 1965
Great Episode! Some very cerebral and potent questions, quickly becoming a master of your craft, so impressed and always entertained.
"Take me there Anna!" Loved it man, I think she did too 😀
I'm addicted to RUclips's scientific talk about dopamine
Me too!
Hihi.. i said the same 😜
This is an amazing conversation. I am going to read Dr. Lembke's articles. Thankn you!
Fantastic video. One thing worth mentioning in regards to having a meaningful and rewarding job...yeah let's just forget about that, there will always be a large population of people that will work a job they hate until they day they retire (if they can retire).
Can you please introduce your guests? I want to have an idea of their expertise before I start listening.
Read the description - you'll find quite a bit in there
Shirley you came here because you know the calibre of the guests/how high the bar is set...
Good video, hard subject, several new contributions, keep on.
The shift from fear to love through changing identity through healthy mental programming and experiences that awaken the mind can help this in big amount.
Such a fascinating conversation. I found it highly informational and helpful in analyzing my ‘dopamine enhancing’ behaviors and evaluating my choices in life. Thank you so much.
I always get a dopamine hit at the end when he says, "Thanks for chooning in".
I think I am sooooo bloody addicted to listen to you two!!! :-P Thanks for the informations. Love it.
Just Wow! Great conversation! Thank you both so much from Western Maine.
Euphoric Recall !! 🤯
Thank You !!!!!
This lady is amazing.
I got a challenge for anyone.
Try to sit for ONE FULL HOUR without any distractions. No TV. No phone. No laptop. Just go outside or even sit on your sofa for one hour and see how long you can last.
The other day I sat in a chair in the middle of the room facing a wall. For six hours I did a mental life review followed by prayer.
The reason why it gets harder for people resist is when their stress/deppression builds to higher levels.
This video im pretty sure just changed my life...i was kinda knew how dopamine worked but i never thought of deliberately chasing pain to keep it in check. Especially some one whos really trying to control an alcoholic addiction this knowledge really gives me strength to lay off the stuff and getting out of my comfort zone more.. it make sense to work for your dopamine instead of always taking it the easy way and then dealing with the harsh come down.. obviously i doubt a natural dopamine high is not quite as good as drugs or alcohol but i believe i can maybe do those in moderation if i can learn to maintain a healthy basline level of dopamine... If not id still rather my happiness be more balanced. It gets really tiring feeling either really good or really bad and not being very productive. Alcohol's a bitch but this video i believe deff just helped me. Its all about strength really
Best podcast I have listened ever … such a thought provoking video, thank u both of you.
This video genuinely is going to change my life, thank you
the last 20 min of this interview are 🔥
Brilliant interview - I’m getting her book - thanks!
Never met anyone else who got nothing out of caffeine Anna. You are rare.
Fantastic conversation!! This was immensely helpful for me 🤗 thank you!
Thanks, Chris-this was compelling, informative and concretely useful. Fantastic interview.
Great talk, and particularly insightful, thoughtful questions. A terrific interview.
Captivating Interview.
Great podcast. Came here because of a clip from the one with Huberman. I’m buying her book immediately and checking out her website. Thanks!
Amazing guest, amazing questions.
Amazing episode so informative top quality guest and amazing questions Chris
Thank you Chris and Anna for this very enlightening and critical conversation. I would like to know or hear you do a segment that addresses or connects the "dopamine/addictive cycles and behaviors with trauma/complex PTSD/and the childhood experiences that seem directly related to the addiction and behaviors. Is the propensity for this dopamine hit/high intrinsically there in each of us as humans since time began or did it emerge as a response to the misperception born out of unhealthy dysfunctional attachment patterns and experiences in childhood and becomes our insane, all consuming search for something to fill the void, the dark hole, the emptiness felt inside from a lack of true, authentic, loving connection needed for healthy, balanced development and maturity.
Yeah, for sure!!
I see Jordan Peterson’s influence on your interviewing skills. Good on you.
How so?
@@ChrisWillx I would say by your ability to listen and ask good questions from what was just mentioned
@@BorisBidjanSaberi11 that's assuming only JP is capable of that
@@BorisBidjanSaberi11 JP is notorious for interrupting when his guest is in the middle of making a point
@@michaelr1225 - I disagree, sort of …
I’ve watched every video i can find and have time for.
He does interrupt but his intension is to further the conversation not monopolize or direct the conversation