Thanks I’m glad you liked the guide~ I think there are other great ones out there too I’d recommend, burgundy is rng heavy so some of the bigger eu4 RUclipsrs do explain things very well and discuss different outcomes but glad you liked it
34:40 small sidenote; unless they changed it you need a claim on your new overlord to be able to declare a war on them; the imperial incident prevents you from declaring an actual independance war
Oh good thing to mention I didn’t know that, well it’s good since king of the franks gives you claims on all the French provinces in the France region they have!
@@bennygohome4576 7000 hours But I've never played Burgundy so that might explain. I'm always deciding on another in the end whenever I think I wanted to make Lotharingia and in the end have never done that. Really need to do that at some point.
Really nice video, Burgundy is a super fun country. I would have preferred the Mary route personally though, magically integrating all your vassals for free feels gimmicky, but depends on the person. Still, really nice video, subscribed.
Thank you and sure I understand I personally do like sticking with Mary but I wanted to show off all the provinces you get from vassals, perhaps I’ll stick with her in a future burgundy play-through, thanks for the sub I greatly appreciate it!
Tbh, having to deal with that many vassals and diplo relations is a bit tedious. And remember that you ll get -30 relations with your vassals when you annex one, which can spiral out of controll with this amount. Also having to improve all the time with them while also annexing and doing other diplo stuff can overload your diplomats. Although the new gov type for Burgundy at least helps with the diplo relation cap.
@@gothia1715 yeah lots of diplomat micro as burgundy so definitely go diplomatic ideas but I went influence and admin also since that’s probably the best ideas if you stick with Mary for the diplo annexation cost, and with great privilege it’s manageable to keep vassals in check.
@@TripleZHacker True, Diplo ideas help alot with this. But Influence + Admin is a nobrainer for every subject focused campaign. Also took them as my first ideas in my current Provence playthrough. One of the best idea combinations in the game imo.
if you use the return core peace option it doesn't matter which of your allies has a province sieged, it also revokes the original owners core on the province if they aren't the same culture as the province, using that you could have called the pope in with the wargoal being Napoli and it wouldn't have mattered what they occupied (AI will always transfer you the war goal)
8:38 Here its better to directly annex the cores of Champagne. You ll get less AE as from returning cores. Anyways, great guide! Your commentary is enjoyable to listen to.
@@TripleZHacker You re wellcome :) I think its because returning cores also removes the core of your enemie (if its not the main culture), which should be the reason for more AE. You can always try it out by comparing a provinces AE cost in the peace deal.
Did you consider taking a valencian core and release it? You would have got both the upper AND southern part of aragon's coast by the second war. By not doing that before you will now need 4 wars or 3 with high AE
I thought about it and probably should’ve! Kinda not worried about AE too much if I just make sure to time truces right, but yeah fair point I just wanted to focus on Central European expansion a bit more
"Charles is only 17 he has a long time to live" He died in 1456 in my latest France game so i got the PU and I got a claim on aragon. Probably my luckiest playthrough other than having to go to 20 war exhaustion for ottomans to whitepeace byz for the vassal
It annoys me that I started my run before watching this. I could've gotten so much stronger so much faster by following this guide, and I'm considering starting over. Great guide dude!
Loved the video. I think I recently did a run and got Hungary as a PU and integrated them this way lol. I seem to remember some vassals staying independent; I think I discovered maybe it had something to do with Italian nations(?). Anyways, because of the weak OPM emperor in your run, I would’ve suggested to attack the HRE instead of joining at the end and then you can force a re-election by vassaling them.
Thank you and yeah I possibly could do that might do that at the start of next video it’s a great suggestion, I was worried since likely for most they wouldn’t get an OPM as Emperor but then again it does happen from time to time, so great point. Yeah I’ve seen Bohemia instantly integrate too, idk what the requirements are tbh. Glad you enjoyed the video~
Really well made video. I'm up to 1600 hours in eu4 and still learning. One question out of curiosity why did you decide not to take a Bulgarian province and release them along with Byzantium?
Thank you and ah I thought about it but probably will do that in the next war against them after I return Byz cores, definitely viable I took Constantinople for the crusading aspect of it hehe but probably should’ve saved it for easy warscore but ya either way next war can probably do it.
Thanks glad you enjoy it! And gotta get the views and grow the channel but yeah I’ll avoid being “click bait” most of the videos I show everything that the thumbnail and title promise~
36:37 You are aware this casus beli is only valid for one province in this case, right? Any others you take using it will have regular AE, and also cost extra diplo. I think you might've had more cores to reconquest if you released Toulouse, but I don't have EU installed rn and I can't check. As a sidenote - exploiting tax dev is a nice way to manage gov cap, as is concentrating development. Great video anyway, cheers, sorry if this comment sounds too critical Also the historical info is really appreciated, I know most of it but a lot of people don't so it's really useful, and it doesn't take too much of time in your vids, just enough to not interfere with the game and keep the vid interesting
Yes you are right that’s true great point, I did think about Toulouse being released but was a lot of provinces probably should’ve done it anyways so great advice I appreciate it~ Ah ya good to know that helps with gov cap! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Yeah was insane because they had 98% warscore against France and just took a bunch of territory instead of gaining independence for some reason, I think it had to do with appeasing allies like giving Castile territory and since both Foix and Orelans were in the war I don’t think they had the warscore to each get their independence from France
this video is the perfect example of why you DONT want to wait to use the disloyal vassals mission. France isnt weak enough before your first war for it to cause them to actually declare independence war, supported or not.
Typically in my runs during this patch I would declare war on France with the mission League of the public weal active. After defeating one of France’s armies Orelans, Foix, and Amagnac would get 100% liberty desire. That’s because the vassals won’t participate in the battles so France’s force limit/troop total wouldn’t be high enough compared to the combined strength of its subjects. Orelans would immediately get its independence supported by Castile at 100% liberty desire, then they declared war on France in the middle of my war with them. So no Orelans gets an immediate truce with me and I can’t return its core to Champagne. This happened multiple times in my test runs for this guide. It’s very rng if you’re able to kill the French vassal troops in time and even then it’s likely France won’t be strong enough after the war to stop them from getting independence. Perhaps if France wins the Hundred Years’ War and I waited to declare, but even then it’s not guaranteed. You’d have to either fight Provence first and not get them as a vassal and just take 2 provinces quickly without the excommunication cp and then declare on France and complete king of the franks quickly, but that’s not as strong since without the Provence vassal you don’t get Naples for 15AE. Perhaps in a future run I’ll try waiting to declare on either France or Provence but you can’t wait too long otherwise France annexes vassals.
10:17, why didn’t you release Gascony before fighting England? Only because of relations limit? But you would have been able to take Bordeaux immediately though
Just didn't consider it, also Bordeaux was occupied by the French in the hundred years war, so I got control of it only during the war hence I didn't expect to get it at the start of that war.
I couldn’t see them and I was tempted should’ve tried to get maps from others! Probably will fight them when I fight the English again though anyways but ya definitely something I forgot to consider!
@@TripleZHacker Taking just Ceuta will at at least allow you to make claims on Portugal and Southern Castile (to get the grenada momumemt early to eventually get its 5% admin efficiency bonus.) , as well as the extra slender bonus point of being on two continent’s.
Bruh... Burgundy is my favorite eu4 tag and with 2k hours in this game i have formed lotha like 15 times, and i have never seen such blessed rng for the king of the franks mission xd how the actual hell did they not get independence. Must have been the ottomans keeping them from enforcing 100 percent war score and instead they went for land instead? Thats just insane man. Spared you so much ae
Yeah I’m honestly unsure they had 98 warscore must’ve been because of Castile, Austria, and the others wanting things really confused about it still lol and yeah I love Burgundy I’ve had some great runs got the two achievements for them a bit ago~
1 thing tho. For the ultimate blessed burg run you have to try to get that curia controller (ofc its pure luck but its so insane if you get it) and get the minus 10% percent ae from age ability earlier through developing your cap. If you stack that with esp -20% ae you can get -50% ae. And then if you are curia controller you exc savoy attack them and you can get -75% ae (i once had 80% with careful ruler trait fully and then fully annexed savoy for like 15 ae LOL)
Proceeds to comment with completely False information, as I pronounce some correctly others incorrectly. yes it’s been a while since I studied but I still remember quite a lot, that’s why I said I speak a little. So yeah I assume you didn’t watch the video at all with this comment 😂
Ah yeah true I just immediately went after the English to prevent them from winning the 100 years war and taking lots of French provinces so I failed to consider that, very good point
I dont think you should focus on mil points at the start, since the fist (and hardest) war was practically won on tec 3. So you can focus on diplo early em overcome the needs burgundy imposes (many relations, diplo idea early, monarch with 0 diplo points, etc.)
It’s up to you what you wish to focus on and yeah that’s a fair point but the military tech helped win the next few wars and got a stack wipe or two/plus if you don’t get the same rng with allies and such it’s nice. Also switching to tech 4 means the AI will try to avoid fighting you often too, diplo points are great though so it’s a valid point for sure
Yep I mentioned that in the video, you can get Lorraine later if you give Provence some provinces to get their development over 100 you get all of the kingdom of Naples for like 15 AE so you just take Lorraine’s provinces later, or don’t make province a vassal and take the 4 provinces near there and any others if you can.
Unfortunately when I war decd on Provence and vassalized, pope declared war on Provence day before and then excommunicated me after I became war leader. Sad times had to restart
Dang unlucky if you have good relations with the pope you can get the core returned to Provence also you could call the pope into the war but just make sure you take Provence’s Capital
@@TripleZHacker at the time I was allied but chose not to call him in to my initial war with Provence because of that concern. Found out the hard way I should have just called him. Funny anecdote about another run I had, Charles got the event for pray for his life or send for a train medicus, he died and I had to restart
@@TripleZHacker oh also the main reason I chose to abandon the run was because I couldn't get the French vassals opinions high enough with me due to the double combo of AE and excommunication, the war with France I declared ended up mostly stalemated on my side, 0 manpower and lots of loans
@@killerofgems5923 Good god that is some rough rng I had that happen in a run once, standard burgundy experience. I recently did a Muscovy-Russia game and had to alt-f4 when Peter the Great died in a hunting accident as my heir.
Ah okay so you’re out of coring range, I was able to core their areas because of taking provinces from Naples with the province vassal, if not you can try to take provinces near ottoman territory to make them cores in your playthrough
@@NezerCz I know if you take the Balearic Islands right before Spain forms then once Spain forms you can release Aragon and I thought about doing that but decided it was better to take the territory earlier, but yeah was hoping that age ability would do the trick too
Yeah Burgundian Ideas are nice and once you form Lotharingia they’re great too you can always keep Burgundian Ideas for that 15% you set yourself up in the best trade node and can easily be swimming in ducats!
I feel like it’s kind of wasteful not to wait to join given that you can get enormous imperial authority from adding all that land to the empire, and then it’s as simple as just adding any land to the empire that wasn’t possible to add by clicking the decision, but idk
I guess I could have done that but the aggressive expansion to vassalize France probably would’ve been to much unless I become the papal controller and could excommunicate them, but you want to fall under a PU with the French to inherit all vassals easily, if you fall under a PU with the emperor or your strongest ally you can do it too, but you probably have a tougher independence war and you also have a 5 year truce time with them so you’d have to wait to declare independence.
As Burgundy, forming Lotharingia is a bit overblown I think. Forming France (after being voted emperor of course) gives you such an OP mission tree compared to Lotharingia, plus the events/revolution etc... that France gets later. Lotharingia has nice ideas but not much better than France and its mission tree is really lacking in comparison I think. Only thing to really be careful of is the French wars of religion disaster but after that, it's smooth sailing until the Revolution.
Yeah for sure have to wait until France doesn’t exist to form it though and in that case probably better to start as France but for all the tag switching it definitely makes sense to swap France at some point
@@DarthFhenix55 oh yeah for sure the achievement is always good to go for, I already have it myself, the other thing you could do is just keep disinheriting until you get a female heir and name them Marie but takes a while 😂
@@owainlewis2287 thank you and no worries I am planning part 2! I’m glad you enjoyed it and I appreciate asking I know it’s been a while unfortunately :/
Great question, I should’ve addressed that in the video but forgot to. So obviously with burgundy you get all of the French appanage as vassals you don’t want to take their core territory if you can avoid it (I did take La Marche so Armagnac did hate me for that) since it hurts your relations with them, with Gascogne you just want to take their cores on France’s provinces not the vassals!
@@lucaseckert1690 Yeah incredibly so, this patch it’s really tough with the appanage liberty desire, then again the ottomans did peace out and they had 98 warscore on France but neither Orelans or Foix got their independence surprisingly 😂
In every run I play I see wars fought and won by the AI nations but they take useless peacedeals. The average player is always smarter than AI in these things.
@@TripleZHacker Also, I tried joining your discord but all I get is an empty server with a few VCs. Is there some sort of vetting process I am unaware about?
Aside from the ridiculous amount of money you get from owning that much free land, was there a specific reason your stacks had 26,25,24? Were they all different in terms of comp or you just like those numbers lol.
Oh lol yeah just different numbers slowly was building towards complete army comps. I had mercs for the wars in Iberia because of semi low manpower but yeah in the next part I’ll have somewhat consist army comps~
I didn’t use the house of burgundy so neither of those heirs were used! I integrated with the French. I only Alt F4 since I selected an option by mistake before finishing what I wanted to say so I had to re-record a take but nice try lol
Actually that’s incorrect: common usage is cardinal numbers unless it’s the first then you use the Ordinal numbers for the first: François Ier (premier, ordinal) and then afterwards you would use cardinal for the rest: Henri IV (quatre, cardinal) So when I say “le trois” that’s following how French is commonly used. It’s a common mistake to assume that it’s a direct/literal translation from English as the names of kings and queens differs.
@@damienc.6448 I see. Merci beaucoup. yeah I didn’t realize the there was no extra additional phrase before the numeral. Appreciate the feedback will fix it in future videos where I play French nations.
Bit funny that you resolved the English Alliance mission by rivaling and insulting England, and get an improve relations boost from it. This mission feels like one that should have had different rewards much like the new Japan mission tree
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Burgundian state in EU4: 🙂
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what's so bad about seeing the end game screen huh?
Oh nothing at all…perhaps you should ask that question to the Speed 5 judges see what they say 😂
I only like seeing it on January 1st 1821
Actual good guide, contrary to like 90% of the big eu4 tuber guides... Nice video!
Thanks I’m glad you liked the guide~ I think there are other great ones out there too I’d recommend, burgundy is rng heavy so some of the bigger eu4 RUclipsrs do explain things very well and discuss different outcomes but glad you liked it
34:40 small sidenote; unless they changed it you need a claim on your new overlord to be able to declare a war on them; the imperial incident prevents you from declaring an actual independance war
Oh good thing to mention I didn’t know that, well it’s good since king of the franks gives you claims on all the French provinces in the France region they have!
SO THATS WHY BURGUNDY NEVER REBELS EVEN WHEN THEYRE IN A UNION WITH AN OPM!
@@bennygohome4576 7000 hours
But I've never played Burgundy so that might explain. I'm always deciding on another in the end whenever I think I wanted to make Lotharingia and in the end have never done that. Really need to do that at some point.
@@FoggyMcFogFacedo it!
Really nice video, Burgundy is a super fun country. I would have preferred the Mary route personally though, magically integrating all your vassals for free feels gimmicky, but depends on the person. Still, really nice video, subscribed.
Thank you and sure I understand I personally do like sticking with Mary but I wanted to show off all the provinces you get from vassals, perhaps I’ll stick with her in a future burgundy play-through, thanks for the sub I greatly appreciate it!
Tbh, having to deal with that many vassals and diplo relations is a bit tedious. And remember that you ll get -30 relations with your vassals when you annex one, which can spiral out of controll with this amount. Also having to improve all the time with them while also annexing and doing other diplo stuff can overload your diplomats.
Although the new gov type for Burgundy at least helps with the diplo relation cap.
@@gothia1715 yeah lots of diplomat micro as burgundy so definitely go diplomatic ideas but I went influence and admin also since that’s probably the best ideas if you stick with Mary for the diplo annexation cost, and with great privilege it’s manageable to keep vassals in check.
@@TripleZHacker True, Diplo ideas help alot with this.
But Influence + Admin is a nobrainer for every subject focused campaign. Also took them as my first ideas in my current Provence playthrough.
One of the best idea combinations in the game imo.
Really good content! Thank you for the vid!
Thank you and of course will be doing more eu4 from time to time~
That Reveilles vous Picards was a surprise, but a welcome surprise, that song slaps hard
Ikr it’s amazing~
if you use the return core peace option it doesn't matter which of your allies has a province sieged, it also revokes the original owners core on the province if they aren't the same culture as the province, using that you could have called the pope in with the wargoal being Napoli and it wouldn't have mattered what they occupied (AI will always transfer you the war goal)
8:38 Here its better to directly annex the cores of Champagne. You ll get less AE as from returning cores.
Anyways, great guide! Your commentary is enjoyable to listen to.
Oh really? okay good to know thanks for the tip~
@@TripleZHacker You re wellcome :)
I think its because returning cores also removes the core of your enemie (if its not the main culture), which should be the reason for more AE.
You can always try it out by comparing a provinces AE cost in the peace deal.
@@gothia1715 AH! I didn't know that I only gave like 1.1k hours in the game so learning this stuff is great~
@@TripleZHacker Glad that i can help. I dont have much hrs more. And im also still learning which never stops in this game :D
@@gothia1715 hell yeah for sure!
great video, very informative and well explained, looking forward to part 2!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video~
23:36 tiny note, in a reconquest war occupation doesn't matter as you can use the "return core" peace option regardless of occupation ^^
Oh thank you for that right it only matters when you do the other option~
Something that I noticed: you can hire the stability guy before stabbing up for 10% less admin power. Nice guide though!
Oh true I always hire advisors after granting the privileges so failed to consider that, great additional tip~
Did you consider taking a valencian core and release it? You would have got both the upper AND southern part of aragon's coast by the second war. By not doing that before you will now need 4 wars or 3 with high AE
I thought about it and probably should’ve! Kinda not worried about AE too much if I just make sure to time truces right, but yeah fair point I just wanted to focus on Central European expansion a bit more
"Charles is only 17 he has a long time to live"
He died in 1456 in my latest France game so i got the PU and I got a claim on aragon. Probably my luckiest playthrough other than having to go to 20 war exhaustion for ottomans to whitepeace byz for the vassal
It annoys me that I started my run before watching this. I could've gotten so much stronger so much faster by following this guide, and I'm considering starting over.
Great guide dude!
Thank you and yeah restart if you want, I’m glad my video is helpful to follow~ I hope your burgundy run goes smoothly!
Loved the video. I think I recently did a run and got Hungary as a PU and integrated them this way lol. I seem to remember some vassals staying independent; I think I discovered maybe it had something to do with Italian nations(?).
Anyways, because of the weak OPM emperor in your run, I would’ve suggested to attack the HRE instead of joining at the end and then you can force a re-election by vassaling them.
Thank you and yeah I possibly could do that might do that at the start of next video it’s a great suggestion, I was worried since likely for most they wouldn’t get an OPM as Emperor but then again it does happen from time to time, so great point. Yeah I’ve seen Bohemia instantly integrate too, idk what the requirements are tbh. Glad you enjoyed the video~
25:32 Trading favours for trust is really strong, people usually forget this.
YES in this patch trust is so important even with vassals it helps with their liberty desire if you have high TRUST!
Really well made video. I'm up to 1600 hours in eu4 and still learning. One question out of curiosity why did you decide not to take a Bulgarian province and release them along with Byzantium?
Thank you and ah I thought about it but probably will do that in the next war against them after I return Byz cores, definitely viable I took Constantinople for the crusading aspect of it hehe but probably should’ve saved it for easy warscore but ya either way next war can probably do it.
@@TripleZHacker cool sounds good I look forward to the next one
@@BoddickerOCPcheers thanks~
I think this vid was just for you to flex your French language knowledge hehe. Awesome vid guide for Burgundy btw
Thank you, just wait for my video covering France itself~ :D
That was epic
nice video man
Veil the Burgundian system
Love the content. Hope you keep it up and don't become some clickbaity channel like most of EUIV creators
Thanks glad you enjoy it! And gotta get the views and grow the channel but yeah I’ll avoid being “click bait” most of the videos I show everything that the thumbnail and title promise~
bro when you roll for generals... spicy as hell man 👌🔥
Yeah I got some nice rolls~
@@TripleZHacker Loved the two eu4 vids you've done. I'll check out the rest of your content soon enough!
@@thomasnguyen5197 thank you and yeah planning on making more EU4 content so glad you enjoyed them~
36:37 You are aware this casus beli is only valid for one province in this case, right? Any others you take using it will have regular AE, and also cost extra diplo. I think you might've had more cores to reconquest if you released Toulouse, but I don't have EU installed rn and I can't check.
As a sidenote - exploiting tax dev is a nice way to manage gov cap, as is concentrating development.
Great video anyway, cheers, sorry if this comment sounds too critical
Also the historical info is really appreciated, I know most of it but a lot of people don't so it's really useful, and it doesn't take too much of time in your vids, just enough to not interfere with the game and keep the vid interesting
Yes you are right that’s true great point, I did think about Toulouse being released but was a lot of provinces probably should’ve done it anyways so great advice I appreciate it~ Ah ya good to know that helps with gov cap! Glad you enjoyed the video!
That independence war from the French vassal was fucking lucky, got most of France for zero AE instead of less than half.
Yeah was insane because they had 98% warscore against France and just took a bunch of territory instead of gaining independence for some reason, I think it had to do with appeasing allies like giving Castile territory and since both Foix and Orelans were in the war I don’t think they had the warscore to each get their independence from France
this video is the perfect example of why you DONT want to wait to use the disloyal vassals mission. France isnt weak enough before your first war for it to cause them to actually declare independence war, supported or not.
Typically in my runs during this patch I would declare war on France with the mission League of the public weal active. After defeating one of France’s armies Orelans, Foix, and Amagnac would get 100% liberty desire. That’s because the vassals won’t participate in the battles so France’s force limit/troop total wouldn’t be high enough compared to the combined strength of its subjects. Orelans would immediately get its independence supported by Castile at 100% liberty desire, then they declared war on France in the middle of my war with them. So no Orelans gets an immediate truce with me and I can’t return its core to Champagne. This happened multiple times in my test runs for this guide. It’s very rng if you’re able to kill the French vassal troops in time and even then it’s likely France won’t be strong enough after the war to stop them from getting independence. Perhaps if France wins the Hundred Years’ War and I waited to declare, but even then it’s not guaranteed. You’d have to either fight Provence first and not get them as a vassal and just take 2 provinces quickly without the excommunication cp and then declare on France and complete king of the franks quickly, but that’s not as strong since without the Provence vassal you don’t get Naples for 15AE. Perhaps in a future run I’ll try waiting to declare on either France or Provence but you can’t wait too long otherwise France annexes vassals.
10:17, why didn’t you release Gascony before fighting England? Only because of relations limit? But you would have been able to take Bordeaux immediately though
Just didn't consider it, also Bordeaux was occupied by the French in the hundred years war, so I got control of it only during the war hence I didn't expect to get it at the start of that war.
What about taking Portugals overseas possessions in their separate peace deal? Could you see them at that time?
I couldn’t see them and I was tempted should’ve tried to get maps from others! Probably will fight them when I fight the English again though anyways but ya definitely something I forgot to consider!
@@TripleZHacker Taking just Ceuta will at at least allow you to make claims on Portugal and Southern Castile (to get the grenada momumemt early to eventually get its 5% admin efficiency bonus.) , as well as the extra slender bonus point of being on two continent’s.
@@brandonlyon730 ah that would be good to do I plan on continuing to expand in Iberia so yeah will do that when I fight the English and Portuguese~
@@brandonlyon730 I dunno, it's a pretty thicc bonus.
Bruh... Burgundy is my favorite eu4 tag and with 2k hours in this game i have formed lotha like 15 times, and i have never seen such blessed rng for the king of the franks mission xd how the actual hell did they not get independence. Must have been the ottomans keeping them from enforcing 100 percent war score and instead they went for land instead? Thats just insane man. Spared you so much ae
Yeah I’m honestly unsure they had 98 warscore must’ve been because of Castile, Austria, and the others wanting things really confused about it still lol and yeah I love Burgundy I’ve had some great runs got the two achievements for them a bit ago~
1 thing tho. For the ultimate blessed burg run you have to try to get that curia controller (ofc its pure luck but its so insane if you get it) and get the minus 10% percent ae from age ability earlier through developing your cap. If you stack that with esp -20% ae you can get -50% ae. And then if you are curia controller you exc savoy attack them and you can get -75% ae (i once had 80% with careful ruler trait fully and then fully annexed savoy for like 15 ae LOL)
@@Riot_Games_Support Yeah definitely I tried to get it during the run but got unlucky probably will keep going for it
The great trial awaits
"Yeah I speak a little french" *proceeds to mispronounce literally every word*
Proceeds to comment with completely False information, as I pronounce some correctly others incorrectly. yes it’s been a while since I studied but I still remember quite a lot, that’s why I said I speak a little. So yeah I assume you didn’t watch the video at all with this comment 😂
Why didn’t you release Gascony before first war w English? Wouldn’t it be better to reconquer their cores?
Ah yeah true I just immediately went after the English to prevent them from winning the 100 years war and taking lots of French provinces so I failed to consider that, very good point
I dont think you should focus on mil points at the start, since the fist (and hardest) war was practically won on tec 3. So you can focus on diplo early em overcome the needs burgundy imposes (many relations, diplo idea early, monarch with 0 diplo points, etc.)
It’s up to you what you wish to focus on and yeah that’s a fair point but the military tech helped win the next few wars and got a stack wipe or two/plus if you don’t get the same rng with allies and such it’s nice. Also switching to tech 4 means the AI will try to avoid fighting you often too, diplo points are great though so it’s a valid point for sure
can you warn france subjects to prevent them from declaring on france?
very cool vid
Thank you!
@@TripleZHacker hope you make the aprt 2, i liked it a lot watching you conquer all that land almost effortless
@@Woldemar94 yeah planning to just gotta edit and continue a few more videos, but definitely going to continue this one
Just watched, kinda sad there was never a part 2
Nice guide!!! But I have a "problem". When I peace out Provence, making them my vassal, Lorraine doesn't come with it, I cannot vassalise them
Yep I mentioned that in the video, you can get Lorraine later if you give Provence some provinces to get their development over 100 you get all of the kingdom of Naples for like 15 AE so you just take Lorraine’s provinces later, or don’t make province a vassal and take the 4 provinces near there and any others if you can.
@@TripleZHacker cool!! Missed that.
@@polmadur yeah no worries, again feel free to take Lorraine’s provinces if that’s easier! Either way with the excommunication it’s way less AE :)
Unfortunately when I war decd on Provence and vassalized, pope declared war on Provence day before and then excommunicated me after I became war leader. Sad times had to restart
Dang unlucky if you have good relations with the pope you can get the core returned to Provence also you could call the pope into the war but just make sure you take Provence’s Capital
@@TripleZHacker at the time I was allied but chose not to call him in to my initial war with Provence because of that concern. Found out the hard way I should have just called him. Funny anecdote about another run I had, Charles got the event for pray for his life or send for a train medicus, he died and I had to restart
@@TripleZHacker oh also the main reason I chose to abandon the run was because I couldn't get the French vassals opinions high enough with me due to the double combo of AE and excommunication, the war with France I declared ended up mostly stalemated on my side, 0 manpower and lots of loans
@@killerofgems5923 Good god that is some rough rng I had that happen in a run once, standard burgundy experience. I recently did a Muscovy-Russia game and had to alt-f4 when Peter the Great died in a hunting accident as my heir.
18:21 why didn’t you release Normandy?
Oh dang I didn’t even consider that, sound advice definitely should’ve~
When i crusade against ottomans, i cannot take any ottomans' province. it says burgundy cannot make it core. What I have done wrong?
Ah okay so you’re out of coring range, I was able to core their areas because of taking provinces from Naples with the province vassal, if not you can try to take provinces near ottoman territory to make them cores in your playthrough
did he called haut poitou ? opito?
I thought you would take Aragon as a vassal via the age perk 30:55
I tried to but it’s not possible too much warscore
@@TripleZHacker ah, my bad. I thought if I could take Sweden as vassal in my PLC, Teu and Russia campaign Aragon is vassalizable as well
@@NezerCz I know if you take the Balearic Islands right before Spain forms then once Spain forms you can release Aragon and I thought about doing that but decided it was better to take the territory earlier, but yeah was hoping that age ability would do the trick too
Wow just 15% goods produced makes me want to play them
Yeah Burgundian Ideas are nice and once you form Lotharingia they’re great too you can always keep Burgundian Ideas for that 15% you set yourself up in the best trade node and can easily be swimming in ducats!
I feel like it’s kind of wasteful not to wait to join given that you can get enormous imperial authority from adding all that land to the empire, and then it’s as simple as just adding any land to the empire that wasn’t possible to add by clicking the decision, but idk
Why not vassalize france and inherit them during the burgundian succession? or did they remove that?
I guess I could have done that but the aggressive expansion to vassalize France probably would’ve been to much unless I become the papal controller and could excommunicate them, but you want to fall under a PU with the French to inherit all vassals easily, if you fall under a PU with the emperor or your strongest ally you can do it too, but you probably have a tougher independence war and you also have a 5 year truce time with them so you’d have to wait to declare independence.
That French sold it for me.
Are you gonna try to PU/vassalize the electors?
Since I did the French PU option I don’t get the CBS to do that but I could just vassalize a few of them, like the bishoprics
As Burgundy, forming Lotharingia is a bit overblown I think. Forming France (after being voted emperor of course) gives you such an OP mission tree compared to Lotharingia, plus the events/revolution etc... that France gets later.
Lotharingia has nice ideas but not much better than France and its mission tree is really lacking in comparison I think.
Only thing to really be careful of is the French wars of religion disaster but after that, it's smooth sailing until the Revolution.
Yeah for sure have to wait until France doesn’t exist to form it though and in that case probably better to start as France but for all the tag switching it definitely makes sense to swap France at some point
Shouldn't you also get an option to give "The grrat privilege" to the low lands in order to make the emperor declar a war?
I'm ofc talking about the Burgundian succession event here.
Yes that’s correct! Ahhh I forgot to mention that~ but it’s a very easy defensive war so all of your allies join and you crush the emperor
@@TripleZHacker The point is getting the Mary of Lotharingia faster, otherwise become a PU of France is always better.
@@DarthFhenix55 oh yeah for sure the achievement is always good to go for, I already have it myself, the other thing you could do is just keep disinheriting until you get a female heir and name them Marie but takes a while 😂
Is it a good idea to take burgas is the war with the Ottomans so you can release Bulgaria?
Yes you can I didn’t in my first war but I don’t mind fighting the ottomans again to get it really
Will there be a second part?
Yes it’s editing and I am sadly sick currently so it will take time I apologize!
@@TripleZHacker very well done video, really enjoyed it, thank you.
@@owainlewis2287 thank you and no worries I am planning part 2! I’m glad you enjoyed it and I appreciate asking I know it’s been a while unfortunately :/
Why did you not give Gascogne the cores on Foix?
Great question, I should’ve addressed that in the video but forgot to. So obviously with burgundy you get all of the French appanage as vassals you don’t want to take their core territory if you can avoid it (I did take La Marche so Armagnac did hate me for that) since it hurts your relations with them, with Gascogne you just want to take their cores on France’s provinces not the vassals!
That sounds reasonable. The Ottomans intervention was very lucky for your run.
Thanks for your quick answer.
@@lucaseckert1690 Yeah incredibly so, this patch it’s really tough with the appanage liberty desire, then again the ottomans did peace out and they had 98 warscore on France but neither Orelans or Foix got their independence surprisingly 😂
In every run I play I see wars fought and won by the AI nations but they take useless peacedeals.
The average player is always smarter than AI in these things.
@@lucaseckert1690 Yup without a doubt lol
is Maine still English?
Lol yes was focused elsewhere it remained English since the French never took it, but I'll get it from the English in the next part~
Are you still continuing with the Japan playthrough?
Yep! It’s just being edited right now!
@@TripleZHacker Also, I tried joining your discord but all I get is an empty server with a few VCs. Is there some sort of vetting process I am unaware about?
@@cheapjingjr oh that’s concerning apologies let me look into it
@@TripleZHacker Fixed, thanks!
@@cheapjingjr of course~
Aside from the ridiculous amount of money you get from owning that much free land, was there a specific reason your stacks had 26,25,24? Were they all different in terms of comp or you just like those numbers lol.
Oh lol yeah just different numbers slowly was building towards complete army comps. I had mercs for the wars in Iberia because of semi low manpower but yeah in the next part I’ll have somewhat consist army comps~
I love how you can see at min.: 32:03 how dude alt F4 to get a better heir 😂😂😂
I didn’t use the house of burgundy so neither of those heirs were used! I integrated with the French. I only Alt F4 since I selected an option by mistake before finishing what I wanted to say so I had to re-record a take but nice try lol
Troisième, not le trois. You wouldn't say Phillip the Three, would you?
Actually that’s incorrect: common usage is cardinal numbers unless it’s the first then you use the Ordinal numbers for the first: François Ier (premier, ordinal)
and then afterwards you would use cardinal for the rest:
Henri IV (quatre, cardinal)
So when I say “le trois” that’s following how French is commonly used. It’s a common mistake to assume that it’s a direct/literal translation from English as the names of kings and queens differs.
@TripleZHacker you're both wrong (though you are arguably less wrong). It's "Philippe Trois" not "Philippe le Trois". Source : am French.
@@damienc.6448 I see. Merci beaucoup. yeah I didn’t realize the there was no extra additional phrase before the numeral. Appreciate the feedback will fix it in future videos where I play French nations.
can lusatia or opole be fun pls check broski
Will do I don’t think I’ve played as them yet!
I thought there was going to be a second part
There is sorry things have been keeping me busy :(
@@TripleZHacker Allright, I'm going to subscibe and wait until it's ready
It needs bunker buff
Bit funny that you resolved the English Alliance mission by rivaling and insulting England, and get an improve relations boost from it. This mission feels like one that should have had different rewards much like the new Japan mission tree
Use the map mod Ad Lucem next time
Do you speak French?
Oui je parle un peu le français!
Should hire one of the scripted artist advisors before stabbing up and save some admin points.
XD