Since filming this video, I've seen someone say that the WLTP figures are with a 750kg load in the back. This seems rather high, but then that would explain the lower range.
I wish the 72 kw battery would be available as well. How quick does the van response when putting it in reverse.. I read that certain brands have a delayed response when putting the EV in reverse?
just saw a German Maxus e video opening the bonnet...it looks like there is to stick available to keep the bonnet in open position.??.. You have to ''reserve'' one arm to keep the bonnet open... but how do you then top up the anti freeze for the wipers?
Like an episode of Morse or Lewis, you start off entering Oxford from the north, then by the time you get to the centre you're coming in from the east!
Our diagnostic scanner, while it can read the ECUs and error codes on the eDeliver3, it isn't reporting any live information from the BMS, yet. The eDeliver3 is only a year old, so the third party diagnostic companies haven't developed the complete diagnostic software for the Maxus yet. They tend to take a couple of years on new models. I don't know of any phone apps yet that can read the BMS ECU. I would also suggest there isn't really a need yet, as these vehicles are only up to 1 year old, so any worries about degradation aren't really needed for many many years yet. I would expect degradation to only be about 1% per annum.
thanks for reply. Will the ed3 do 70mph? reason is I am looking to buy a van eventually but to use more as a car so will drive more empty and occasional camping
What's your thoughts on these now? I live in the Highlands and chargers are every 50 miles , do you think env200 40 or a 35kw version of this or poss the 52 of this. What are they like in winter for range? Thankyou for your review.
@@lookoutleo Yes I was a little bit concerned about aluminium and steel together. Only time will tell. If they have a gasket between the metals, it should be ok. I was reminded of my days with old Land Rovers where they had a steel frame in the doors and aluminium body panels and the doors would always rot out at the bottom.
a interesting video and look forward to more updates .The price stated on your website seems quite high for a unknown make with limited dealer back up for the same money you can get a Citreon Expert with 50 KW pack and a bigger and more established dealer net work. I don't think a Nissian env 200 is a fair comparison as these are old vans now but they do have 40kw pack and are cheaper new ,I think the price has to be more competitive to sell these.
The Maxus are cheaper, but the silly way the UK grants is implemented skews the figures. The Maxus gets a £3,000 grant, whereas the Peugeot Expert (and other vans based on the same PSA vehicle) get a £6,000 grant. This is why I compare the Maxus in the same category as the ENV200, Kangoo Maxi and Partner L2 as the grant puts it in this category as the Maxus is a SWB. The Expert has a larger load capacity and it in the class above and hence qualifies for the later grant.
First thoughts were you have no load, what works van goes out without a load? if you are going to convince tradesmen to buy these vans you need to put a real life case forward. Otherwise good review, it would be a good idea to mention how much that drive cost compared to a diesel pumping machine. So I've done it for you, I would say at 4.6 miles per 5p (best case) so the total cost would be 16 x 5p = 80p. Currently diesel cost £1.50 per gallon and if you get 40 miles to the gallon then that's a running cost of £3.00. So tradesmen work out your yearly fuel running costs and deduct 75% of that fuel bill and that's your savings right there!!! Plus if like this guy you can get another .4 of a mile out of it then the saving s are even more!! Not to mention no road tax, and very little servicing costs.
Exactly the same in UK. They say one thing then do the opposite. Now they are saying let's frack the UK for oil and gas (coz the Russian stuff is bad) and having bleet 🐑🐑🐑 on about CO2 for 30 years 🙄
I don’t think this guy ever listened to his videos because that is a very noisy van . I want a electric van.I own two cargo vans and they are not noisy like his.
1:24 - Is that 'piano black' and a ghastly dust magnet or have they designed it to look filthy from the factory? 12:36 - Adam Buxton on tonight. www.oxfordplayhouse.com/whats-on/all-shows/adam-buxton-rambles/13501 16:30 - that's going to do 110 miles even in winter isn't it? Entirely reasonable. (Looks like a ghastly, and will get broken very quickly, charge port cover though) Decent van though. If I was in the market, I'd be looking at one.
Yes the low sun made the piano black plastic look dirtier than it was. But they do arrive dirty and this one hadn't been cleaned yet. Its transit to us, is from China to Ireland, then over to UK mainland, then across the country from the Maxus dealership to us. So you can see why they pickup some dust. I would expect 3-3.5mpkWh in the winter, so that would be a range of around 93-109 miles.
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Since filming this video, I've seen someone say that the WLTP figures are with a 750kg load in the back. This seems rather high, but then that would explain the lower range.
I love your videos Matt! I learn so much and your delivery is so pro.
I appreciate that, thanks
Really interesting review (and I've seen a few). Thanks!
Great review as usual.
Thanks
I wish the 72 kw battery would be available as well. How quick does the van response when putting it in reverse.. I read that certain brands have a delayed response when putting the EV in reverse?
You foot must be on the brake to put it into reverse. If not, then it is delayed until you press the brake. Catches some out.
just saw a German Maxus e video opening the bonnet...it looks like there is to stick available to keep the bonnet in open position.??.. You have to ''reserve'' one arm to keep the bonnet open... but how do you then top up the anti freeze for the wipers?
Like an episode of Morse or Lewis, you start off entering Oxford from the north, then by the time you get to the centre you're coming in from the east!
Yep. Continuity is a mess for those that know Oxford.
does the van has storage capacity in the ''frunk' ?- where to top up the water/ anty freeze / for the window wipers?
No frunk storage
hello, please tell me how to check soh batteries on maxus
Our diagnostic scanner, while it can read the ECUs and error codes on the eDeliver3, it isn't reporting any live information from the BMS, yet. The eDeliver3 is only a year old, so the third party diagnostic companies haven't developed the complete diagnostic software for the Maxus yet. They tend to take a couple of years on new models.
I don't know of any phone apps yet that can read the BMS ECU.
I would also suggest there isn't really a need yet, as these vehicles are only up to 1 year old, so any worries about degradation aren't really needed for many many years yet. I would expect degradation to only be about 1% per annum.
looking at the specs on the official site noticed the 9 version has a top speed of 60mph?
Yes, so did the EV80 before it. Not a problem for most fleets. Many restrict vans that size anyway.
thanks for reply. Will the ed3 do 70mph? reason is I am looking to buy a van eventually but to use more as a car so will drive more empty and occasional camping
@@livingladolcevita7318 Yes. Top speed is 75 mph, but from memory it does slightly more.
What's your thoughts on these now? I live in the Highlands and chargers are every 50 miles , do you think env200 40 or a 35kw version of this or poss the 52 of this. What are they like in winter for range? Thankyou for your review.
52kWh eDeliver3 over a 40kWh ENV200 any day. Range is about 150-200 miles.
@@GoGreenAutos do you think it will last like a nissan , aluminium and steel together not cause corrosion?
@@lookoutleo Yes I was a little bit concerned about aluminium and steel together. Only time will tell. If they have a gasket between the metals, it should be ok. I was reminded of my days with old Land Rovers where they had a steel frame in the doors and aluminium body panels and the doors would always rot out at the bottom.
@@GoGreenAutos exactly what I was thinking of to, great minds and all that :)
Can they be had with out bulkhead and five or seven seats cheers
No. I don't know if this will come in the future.
Very good video I used to drive a normal van
and after a day of driving very tired.
what is the full range of a env 200 Nissan 24 kw
A 24kWh ENV200 does around 80-90 miles in the summer if driven efficiently.
a interesting video and look forward to more updates .The price stated on your website seems quite high for a unknown make with limited dealer back up for the same money you can get a Citreon Expert with 50 KW pack and a bigger and more established dealer net work.
I don't think a Nissian env 200 is a fair comparison as these are old vans now but they do have 40kw pack and are cheaper new ,I think the price has to be more competitive to sell these.
The Maxus are cheaper, but the silly way the UK grants is implemented skews the figures. The Maxus gets a £3,000 grant, whereas the Peugeot Expert (and other vans based on the same PSA vehicle) get a £6,000 grant.
This is why I compare the Maxus in the same category as the ENV200, Kangoo Maxi and Partner L2 as the grant puts it in this category as the Maxus is a SWB. The Expert has a larger load capacity and it in the class above and hence qualifies for the later grant.
It's not really an 'unknown' make, as it's a rebranding of LDV, (Leyland DAF Vans). Though now Chinese owned.
First thoughts were you have no load, what works van goes out without a load? if you are going to convince tradesmen to buy these vans you need to put a real life case forward. Otherwise good review, it would be a good idea to mention how much that drive cost compared to a diesel pumping machine. So I've done it for you, I would say at 4.6 miles per 5p (best case) so the total cost would be 16 x 5p = 80p. Currently diesel cost £1.50 per gallon and if you get 40 miles to the gallon then that's a running cost of £3.00. So tradesmen work out your yearly fuel running costs and deduct 75% of that fuel bill and that's your savings right there!!! Plus if like this guy you can get another .4 of a mile out of it then the saving s are even more!! Not to mention no road tax, and very little servicing costs.
How much?
See www.gogreenautos.co.uk/for-sale/maxus/edeliver3
Also have an ex-demo, that has done less than 500 miles, for £21,500+VAT.
Here in the US the land of so called open markets, capitalism and environmental awareness nothing like this is allowed in.
Exactly the same in UK. They say one thing then do the opposite. Now they are saying let's frack the UK for oil and gas (coz the Russian stuff is bad) and having bleet 🐑🐑🐑 on about CO2 for 30 years 🙄
If you can afford it, always buy the bigger battery. Future you will thank you for it.
My boss send me here
Vauxhall combo electric van would be better, it has 171 miles range
Of course it does more, as its a smaller van with a larger battery pack.
I don’t think this guy ever listened to his videos because that is a very noisy van . I want a electric van.I own two cargo vans and they are not noisy like his.
How much weight were you carrying in the back?
Empty. All explained in the video.
1:24 - Is that 'piano black' and a ghastly dust magnet or have they designed it to look filthy from the factory?
12:36 - Adam Buxton on tonight.
www.oxfordplayhouse.com/whats-on/all-shows/adam-buxton-rambles/13501
16:30 - that's going to do 110 miles even in winter isn't it? Entirely reasonable. (Looks like a ghastly, and will get broken very quickly, charge port cover though)
Decent van though. If I was in the market, I'd be looking at one.
Yes the low sun made the piano black plastic look dirtier than it was. But they do arrive dirty and this one hadn't been cleaned yet. Its transit to us, is from China to Ireland, then over to UK mainland, then across the country from the Maxus dealership to us. So you can see why they pickup some dust.
I would expect 3-3.5mpkWh in the winter, so that would be a range of around 93-109 miles.