The natural trumpet | Netherlands Bach Society
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Short documentary on the natural trumpet. Mark Geelen, trumpet player of the Netherlands Bach Society, builds his own instruments and explains the differences between the various sorts of trumpets.
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Mark Geelen, trumpet
Both fascinating and informative. Thanks, Mr Geelen.
It's interesting how the making of these trumpets is quite similar to the making of metal organ pipes.
This was a most interesting video. In junior high school I began teaching myself how to play the cornet. The first step was to acquire a U.S. Army plastic bugle from the army surplus store. I removed the tuning slide, sanded it a bit, applied Vaseline to it to make a slide bugle. The slide could only be extended to add a minor third to the tubing so there were some notes in the lowest register I couldn't hit accurately. My mother felt sorry for me and bought a very cheap used cornet at a pawn shop which I taught myself to play. I later moved on to the tuba in the high school band.
Ah formidable la NBS, vous avez sous-titré le magnifique trompettiste, merci! =thank you very very much!
WOW! Fantastically interesting.
¡Gracias por ponerle subtítulos a este magnífico video!
Las interpretaciones llamadas "informadas" de las prácticas antiguas u originales, necesariamente exigen conocimientos sobre la fabricación de los instrumentos. Existen películas sobre las leyendas en la fabricación de instrumentos de cuerda: las condiciones de clima bajo las que crecieron los árboles, las plagas que sufrieron, las recetas para producir los barnices, los materiales para las cuerdas y los arcos... esta es la primera vez que vemos el proceso artesanal para construir los instrumentos de metal, con todo el color original.
Ahora bien, podemos intuir que las ideas ambiciosas que los compositores, Johann Sebastian Bach entre ellos, plasmaron en sus partituras manuscritas, seguramente impusieron retos para que los fabricantes de instrumentos innovaran progresivamente, hasta llegar a lo que hoy conocemos como sonidos electrónicos e inteligencia artificial: herramientas que en la manos adecuadas, son capaces de arrojar resultados muy estimulantes para los compositores, intérpretes y escuchas.
Your introduction was very inspirational. Excellent video. TX
Thanks for this amazing mini-documentary!
Felicitaciones por presentar a este músico-luthier. Me hizo recordar cuando estudiaba Fagot, y pasaba muchas horas con la persona que me ayudaba a mejorarlo (era un instrumento prestado que había estado guardado muchos años). Excelente video y excelente trabajo.
Great documentary, great personality showing a little hint of tremendous work and mental work that were necessary to be able to tell so concisely and easy to understand . Thank you very much!
¡Hala! Nunca hubiera crecido que existían orfebres de trompeta y que sean a la vez buenos trompetistas. Gracias NBS, gracias por compartirnos obras de Bach tocadas por buenísimos músicos
Thank you for the most lucid explanation of the evolution of the "modern baroque trumpet" I have heard. I cannot help but wonder what listeners in Bach's time thought of the usually out of tune natural trumpet parts that they heard. Were prodigies like Gottfried Reich (Bach's star trumpeter) capable of sufficiently "lipping" the notes to the point of acceptability, or did people simple put up with a very imperfect sound? Can anyone comment?
everything I have heard suggests it was a combination of the two. Like how modern symphony-listeners put up with the french horns occasionally splitting a note.
I actually think they played coiled trumpets and used hand stopping the out of tune notes like horn players do. A quite radical difference in timbre and function that would require a very open mind for players, conductors and audience.
The venting holes aren’t a modern invention. Their existence is already mentioned 20 years after Bach‘s time in writing, where the term “holeless trumpet” was used for the natural trumpet (German “ungelöcherte Trompete”). When they came about in the baroque period exactly is uncertain, but apparently musicians of the time were dissatisfied with the out-of-tune notes as well and were looking for ways to avoid them, especially when they were playing in an orchestra with other instruments. If only fanfares and percussion are used, the deviation from the tempered scale is less noticeable.
Very nice.. I build a baroque trumpet by myself and it is really a great feeling.
Gracias por enseñarnos tan interesante información. Conocer los entresijos de tan especiales instrumentos nos hace comprender su importancia a la hora de disfrutar de sus espectaculares sonidos.¡FELICITACIONES!🌞🌙👏👍🎶🌝⚘
You could have just added subtitles to the previous upload. Baking in the subtitles is generally regarded as the "wrong" way as opposed to adding a subtitle file that you can enable/disable.
For English only countries perhaps, not where we were raised seeing subtitles day in day out.
@@bjarkel.993 I mean optional subtitle options would allow for subtitles in other languages. That's a feature built into RUclips.
Alternatively, people that know the languages spoken don't have to look at subtitles of they don't want to.
There are literally only advantages to non-baked subtitles.
this is amazing. thank you!
5:16 Now that's more like it, those Venting Holes make a huge difference so that playing in tune is even easier.
The Baroque Trumpet is twice the length of a Modern D Trumpet so it speaks an Octave below.
Brilliant video
One of the most elegant, intelligent and beautiful things made of metal is the natural trumpet.
Great vid very interesting
NBS should start a completely new documentaire about Johann Sebastian Bach! In 4K and new studies about our beloved J.S Bach
Na, that one should be in 480p, like in Bachs good old time
Très intéressant!
A natural trumpet seems like a much easier instrument to make than, say, a violin or something like that. Am I correct in this assessment?
Random user #74652819 yeah it’s not that hard to learn the technical skills but it is hard to make a good functioning instrument.
Ik ben erg protz op je. Groetjes xx Graham.
For anyone interested in the trumpets made by Mark Geelen (me) you can look at “Martinus Geelen Trumpets” on facebook.
facebook.com/MartinusGeelenNaturalTrumpets/
And
www.mgtrumpets.com
Gracias y saludos cordiales desde Mallorca para vosotros nethelans baroque 😍😍
Wow you actually lipped the B up to pitch! 4:40 it’s usually much flatter-nice!
It's twice the length of a Modern Trumpet so it's down an Octave
As you mentioned, there are REAL 'natural' trumpet players who play THE trumpet WITHOUT vent holes. If historic performance makes sense, THIS is the way it shall be done.
Check for Julian Zimmermann, Jean-François Madeuf and a handful more.
If not, it is the same as playing the continuo with a piano.
Hallo Bart! Heb je de fotos van mijn mondstuk gezien?
Meraviglioso ! Vorrei poter fare questo
The Vent Holes are reminiscent of the Recorder.
The mouth piece looks small compared to the ones used by those who play without holes.
😊
Can you please make me your apprentice, I would love to know how to perfect such art
I will take one baroque trumpet please!
:D
Contact me!!
I love baroque trumpet. Nice to have some honesty re the holes. So, how is it that after 50+ years of the baroque revival, most brass players are still frauds?
It's not a fraud.
Be soothed or excited, transported or focused, but FFS, just close your eyes and _listen to the music_ already.
So, if there are inspired persons, or even those merely competent, putting focused breath into metal and creating the glorious vibrations indicated in the composer's score, are you really prepared to march right up to the trumpeters and bray, "fraud, Fraud, FRAUD! you miserable scoundrels, poseurs all!" ? If so, you are so sadly missing the point.
@@BuzzVenturion Were you born an idiot, or is it brain damage? Either way...so sorry.
@@qwaqwa1960 Looks more like Mr.Buzz caught you out on your pretentious snobbery, lol.
@@emersongeorge4560 Better to remain silent to hide your ignorance...
A vented natural trumpet is better than a shrill piccolo trumpet! I think orchestral trumpeters are arrogant and lazy if the can’t be bothered learning how to play the natural trumpet!