You're awesome man, deserve way more attention than your getting. too many wow gold-tubers are selling get rich quick schemes and 40$ books to get the real info. but your vids are the most detailed, with a focus on stable, surefire income over an xpac. I really appreciate ya putting this info out for everyone whether they can afford a book or monthly patreon or not.
Loving the videos mate. Nice to see someone so genuine and not wanting to hide information for there own gain. One quick question if you would. Are your alts mainly doubling Alch/Tailoring or you pairing them with something else? Keep up the good work mate
You can save some money by buying Cavedweller's Delight potions from AH to neutralize and selling your healing potions. Current prices on my server are 10g for Cavedweller and 50g for healing potions
One thing I learned from path of exile is that as soon as a large youtuber makes a video on an underused strat, that strat is more than likely no longer viable
Ok, I've watched the whole video (and this was my first look at alchemy since like Truegold transmutation 😂) and I'm not sure if I'm feeling like a beaver on a hunk of wood just yet 🤣 but it definitely helped me understand how complex this is and what is needed. So thank you for this, its a crazy amount of work and effort you put here. Also - am I understanding this correctly that we want to do the Mercurial/Volatile/Ominous Transmutation (the green one) only until we discover the blue ones (Omnous call etc) and then only use these?
The common transmute recipes can be used but they don't offer bonus gleaming transmutagen. Combination of Thaumaturgy and Transmutes will discover the Rare Recipes but you really need the 5 points into all 3 sub specs to make this happen.
sorry just to verify, how do I get knowledge points? Thank you for the amazing guide! Edit right after I commented, even tho I saw the vid some how I misheard before but right after I heard u say the treasures and first time crafts. Amazing guide!
Looking at the current prices for blasphemite looks pretty bleak. Do you think the current prices are due to no demand and will pick up mythic week? Just looks like heaps of stock so far.
Prices are cheap because there is more supply than demand. Once the gear progression properly starts you will see the demand rise. Because the price of them are so cheap people will stop making them until the demand increases. Man I love how the free market works. TIP dont stress as long as you provide value to the market you will win.
I really like the full explanation on this video. There is however 1 question that pops to mind and I don't think you covered it. You are talking off creating Blasphemite as off day 4, but this would require 75 knowledge points at the minimum. In your earlier videos you talked about a possibility off gaining around 60 KP, does this mean this is actually a think that can not be compelted on day 4, but rather on the first reset that opens weekly quests? (it's not 75 minimum, but you advised first 55 in Thaumaturgy for the end bonus)
Perhaps your right I never considered if it was going to be day 4. I meant the fourth day after getting the required points to efficiently gather gleaming transmutagen. Thinking about it now It would more likely be closer to the end of the second week that we can start pumping them out considering we are gold efficient on production.
The ingenuity proc at end didn't give you 47 per thing you went from 678 to 632 on craft. which isn't even 47 they shafted u and rolled down. Also to get 100% back I believe you have to spec into Ingenuity, can't remember if alch is one with it some dont have that node to refund 100% base is 50.
Good pick up Bob. Alchemy doesn't have an Ingenuity Sub Specialization. It's hard to tell exactly what kind of profits I will be getting once I reach the full build. I just know it will be value and that means gold. Either way I won't be losing money and that helps me towards my goal.
Many thanks for the very good videos, very detailed and informative. I hope we can look over your shoulder while streaming soon. But I have a question about the1000 concentration. Do you have 1000 per profession or per character? If it is per character and you learn e.g. alchi with tailoring you would not necessarily need the alchi max. build.
Hello Goldzen. I just found your channel as i was looking into preparing a goldmaking strategy in TWW using alts. I had one question for you: How important is it to level your crafting alts? Is it going to be necessary to level each of them to 80 in TWW?
Quick question - what’s the fastest way for new alts to obtain any type of alchemist stone to be able to start transmuting? How did you do it for your multiple alts 0.0
Could you look at SoulSoBreezy video "THE War Within Alchemy Guide, Deep Dive With Build Suggestions and More!" for his build like your Phase 1 but it allows the making of gleaming transmutagen day 1 with less points that your order. I would love your analysis/insight.
Great find Scotty his build is super interesting. It does make him able to get Blasphemites early than my build. But it will cost more there is an argument that he can get quick gold doing this method. But I like the more efficient slow route. And by the time I get there I should have way more gleaming transmutagen overall. It's still a totally viable option one I did not consider at all so thanks for that insight.
Find your videos thanks to youtube algorythm, pleasant surprise ! I'll definitely try the alchemy alt army. I have a question, I want to try both alchemy and tailoring army but I'll have 12 characters in totals, how would you spread professions on them ? should I juste dual profession tailoring/alchemy on all 12 of them ? shoudl I pick herbalism on some alt for the alchemy ?
Make 4 toons with all 8 main professions, have a dual gatherer. have a main toon with tailoring, inscription for cloth/darkmoon drops the rest cant go wrong with making them all tailor/alchemists.
Thanks for another good guide. I wanna go that path but do you recommend this for some1 that will have only 5 alts for some steady income? Wouldnt be better in that case to lvl jc on main to mby funnel blasphemite for ring/settings craft? Since ppl with less alts gonna have advantage of better control on money benefits from blasphemite
You could surely do it. But then your limiting yourself to just those markets. If only using 5 alts I would have one of each primary profession and a dual gatherer. Then just use concentration on your 4 toons to craft the most expensive thing that you can every few days.
In dragonflight i was late to the transmute army party and by the time i set up transmuters, everyone and their grandma did too and it made transmutes barely worth doing.
Having a plan, Patience and Persistence - Is the best option for gold making. try to be more proactive and less reactive and you will do great things in life.
hi. I have found today. that if main cyrcle in Thaumaturgy is on full 55 piont than each type of blue trasnmutation will award extra gleaming tranmutagen if you do it first time a day. I did today 5 blue transmutation and got each time 21-24 gleaming. I thought it will work once a day on some of blue transmutation.
55 points allows you to get a bonus gleaming transmutagen when using thaumaturgy. The rare transmutagen cooldowns always give +20 gleaming transmutagens. You can get 40+ a day efficiently.
Amazing video - since Im just starting to build my army and they don't have their Philosopher's Stones just yet - which Philosopher's Stone would be easiest to get/make for many alts? Thank you in advance and as always - great video, packed full of crazy good information
Suggest crafting the classic stone only requires 50 skill to make and recipe is bought in Gadgetzscan I posted a infographic on X about it. x.com/Goldzen_TV/status/1824965480383414491
@@Goldzen_tv I literally just did a bit of my research and found that you can go to Klaxxi in Pandaria, learn pandaria alchemy and recipe for Zen alchemist stone straight from the vendor (no need for any skill ups) and craft it for 3 Golden lotus (on my realm thats 23 gold for all 3). So I guess it depends on what is cheaper/faster on your realm :)
@@Goldzen_tv I literally just finished doing my bit of research on this and it seems like on my realm the chepest and fastest way is to go to Klaxxi in Pandaria and learn Pandaria Alchemy and Zen Alchemist Stone straight from the vendor (no skill ups needed) and craft it for the cost of 3 Golden Lotus (which cost 23 gold for all 3 on my realm). So I guess it come to which way is cheaper/faster on your realm :)
Great stuff! Between the tailoring and alchemy professions starting in the war within, do you think you will achieve 100 million in the war within if you were starting at.... say sub 5 million at launch? Interested to hear what you think these will make throughout the expansion.
@@Goldzen_tv Is my math correct? I'll have 70 characters with Alchemy. In phase 1, log into each and do daily craft for 25 gleaming transmutagen. 25 x 70 = 1,750 gleaming transmutagen each day. That x 7 days in a week = 12,250. Divide that by 80 to craft the Blasphemite equals 153 Blasphemite per week. Say Blasphemite is 2k each, that is roughly 306,250g a week. I know this is not pure profit, but take out what crafting cost is, should be decent gold each week while you are building to phase 2. I would think the Blasphemite would be worth more than 2k each to start as well. Am I correct on this math? With 92 alts, you would be crafting 201 Blasphemite per week?
This kinda means if I'm not the correct race, I basically should better NOT do Alchi and take something else with the chars instead. Thanks for the heads up!
@@Goldzen_tv if i can piggy back on this comment above, what is the realistic loss from not being these races, and is there not a potion or old enchant that can get the other races over the hump. I understand this is an well worked out theory which i appreciate the work put into this guide. Kinda dampened my 40 druids i raced to 70 in the last week of remix that are upright trolls
The priority will be to do the daily logins first on all the alts, the log in and chip away at the weekly knowledge. I'd rather spread it out over a whole week rather than just one day if you know what I mean.
It reads the same but it's mainly the combination of transmutagen that is being used. If you have all of them unlocked you can pick any one it doesnt really matter since its mainly used to create efficient gleaming. But I still believe that system is only half implemented. Bit of a sleeper tbh
@@Goldzen_tv i just tested it out on beta, since beta is still up. they all have different pools of mats they give. I also calculated there current worth. some of them are at 1k (EU prices) at T3. the best one is at 3.6k on average. I also tested out gleaming Chaos. currently ~1k worth. i can share my data if wanted :)
You do not have to level them up at all still can do everything thing I showed here, However I suspect they might bring in new recipes on the first patch that may require us to be level 80 to obtain. but who knows.
Hay ... whats is your best advise for someone who has like 300 to 400 k starting gold and not into farming only crafting which 2 professions and specializations you would suggest to make maximum gold with early access and 9 alts ... you help will be much appreciated cause i am confused as hell if i lvl up professions earlier i will lose all gold and dnt have anything to buy mats and if i wait then i will lose the edge to be the among the early gold makers.
Do my characters have to be at max level to start doing this, or can I start doing this at level 70? I'm assuming you don't have to be max level because I can't imagine you are going to level up 80 alts.
@@Goldzen_tv Thanks for the fast reply Mr. Goldzen. I think I'm going to be using your alt army alchemy and tailoring strategies on many of my alts, hopefully it pays off. Leveling 80 alts is a massive undertaking, I wish you all the best and I hope you achieve your gold making goals in this xpac.
You didnt cover +15 skill to all alchemy crafts while phial (under Fantastic flasks) therefore would i still be able to do the convertion from tier 1 to tier 3 with longer path to max out flasks first and then convert rather taking your route ( but being any race)
oh wow I didn't even know there was a phial, guess being a kul tiran or goblin just makes you save on the cost. I'm not perfect but i try to be so thanks for the great info mate thats an awesome reply
@@Goldzen_tv Is it really that mandatory to be kul tiran as an alchemist? I've levelled like 65 night elf druis on mop remix, i didnt even give race/class any thought really just easier to do the same over and over.
Really that's interesting I never came across that bug. The 55th point in Thaumaturgy states the daily bonus when using Thaumaturgy. Are you perhaps getting the rare transmute gleaming mixed up with the daily gleaming bonus from thaumaturgy. Double check phase 2
But why bother with all this alts when you can just put 500 (whatever mats/cheapest mats) and turn that into 80 gleaming and spam make blasphemite early And at that point, for people who does this has become rich of blasphemite and it will tank the price to the ground because someone will have like thousands blasphemites early on
There's two ways of doing things mate, The efficient way and the inefficient way. Both are great because it will be a constant price battle between the two and eventually the market will find and settle on a price. If your goal is to spam all the materials into blasphemite go right ahead someone has to do it :p
@@Goldzen_tv ye I just feel like blasphemite will have no value because people will just find the reallreallt cheap mats ans turn it into blasphemite with no cost and tank the item Anyway I love your guides and videos! Keep it up man💕
What other profession will you pair alchemy with, considering both professions will compete for concentration, and considering your alchemy setup will be optimized for daily login, as opposed to some of your other profession setup that are optimized for login twice a week. It appears as your alchemy setup will not need concentration early on, so it would make sense to pair with another profession that requires concentration early on, but that may not benefit from centration later on ?
Concentration is separate for each profession. I didn't mention it in the video but you can use concentration anytime you have it available for transmuting or thaumaturgy.
@@Goldzen_tv Thank you. I watched all your other profession setup video, and it appears as alchemy would be the only profession setup where you would logon daily, all other are bi-weekly. So what will you pair alchemy with and why ?
I'm using the same method just stop making healing potions at 25 then make 10 petal powder until skill 33-35 then 6-7 daily meticulous experimentations to around 60-65 then its just transmutes from there to skill 100.
*SHOPPING LIST*
Mycobloom x350
Gilded Vial x160
Arathor's Spear x90
Dilution Solution x40
Writhing Sample x1
*LEVELING PATH*
Algari Healing Potion x1
Bubbling Mycobloom Culture x1
Algari Healing Potion x29
Neutralize Concoctions x30
*STOP* craft at skill 35 - Petal Powder x8-10
Wild Experimentation - Learn Meticulous x10
Day 1 - Meticulous Experimentation x1
Day 2 - Meticulous Experimentation x1
Day 3 - Meticulous Experimentation x1
Day 4 - Meticulous Experimentation x1
Day 5 - Meticulous Experimentation x1
Day 6 - Meticulous Experimentation x1
SKILL 65+
Hey thanks for implementing my suggestion :) There should also be a way to integrate them directly in the video timeline if i am not mistaken.
@@Haolong121 I believe I understand the chapters and that now thanks mate.
What's the best way to acquire the needed knowledge points for alt armies?
Glad RUclips reccomended your video - great guy, great teaching skills. That hour went by in a flash.
Here I was thinking it would be too long - Thanks for the feeback.
@@Goldzen_tv It probably is for today's standards but I don't mind it since every minute contained new information.
What a gem of a channel! I appreciate the work you put into these vids.
My pleasure!
Just for the first 2 minutes I can say this is what I needed, thanks to the guy posting your channel on the last post of Wowhead Economy.
Glad to hear it!
You're awesome man, deserve way more attention than your getting. too many wow gold-tubers are selling get rich quick schemes and 40$ books to get the real info. but your vids are the most detailed, with a focus on stable, surefire income over an xpac. I really appreciate ya putting this info out for everyone whether they can afford a book or monthly patreon or not.
When I left the old monetary system my mindset changed. Thanks I appreciate the comment, I'm just a normal
dude trying to find meaning in this place.
Holy !! almost 1h pure knowledge, amazing man. great as always.
Much appreciated!
Absolutely love the infographic on 4:41 thanks so much for your content!
It will be helpful when we have the 230 KP for sure
Another amazing video. Thank you for your work on these they are so incredibly helpful.
I want people to make crafting great again!
This was an excellent guide! Thank you so much for this and taking the time it is most appreciated!
Glad it was helpful!
Loving the videos mate. Nice to see someone so genuine and not wanting to hide information for there own gain. One quick question if you would. Are your alts mainly doubling Alch/Tailoring or you pairing them with something else? Keep up the good work mate
80 alts will be Alchemy/Tailoring for the war within. The rest paired video coming soon about it all.
5:17 Thank you for the life advice too
Every lil bit counts :)
You can save some money by buying Cavedweller's Delight potions from AH to neutralize and selling your healing potions. Current prices on my server are 10g for Cavedweller and 50g for healing potions
Thats a great tip, I did notice those potions dropping from dirt piles.
u da real mvp
Onya mate
would love to see a guide on the profession shuffel for Artisan Acuity!
Not my style - Plenty of other content creators out there who can help.
@@Goldzen_tv Respect. And here's hoping they close the profession shuffle loophole.
One thing I learned from path of exile is that as soon as a large youtuber makes a video on an underused strat, that strat is more than likely no longer viable
this strat requires alot of effort
Ok, I've watched the whole video (and this was my first look at alchemy since like Truegold transmutation 😂) and I'm not sure if I'm feeling like a beaver on a hunk of wood just yet 🤣 but it definitely helped me understand how complex this is and what is needed. So thank you for this, its a crazy amount of work and effort you put here.
Also - am I understanding this correctly that we want to do the Mercurial/Volatile/Ominous Transmutation (the green one) only until we discover the blue ones (Omnous call etc) and then only use these?
The common transmute recipes can be used but they don't offer bonus gleaming transmutagen.
Combination of Thaumaturgy and Transmutes will discover the Rare Recipes but you really need
the 5 points into all 3 sub specs to make this happen.
Impressive!
Thanks hope it was understandable
You know bro I love your content
Cheers
Goatzen 🔥
This guy :D I'll take it
sorry just to verify, how do I get knowledge points? Thank you for the amazing guide!
Edit right after I commented, even tho I saw the vid some how I misheard before but right after I heard u say the treasures and first time crafts. Amazing guide!
all g
Great guide, appreciate you efforts.
Much appreciated! - Joseph
thank you so much for guide, learned so much form it :)
do we need 80 lvl for all alts to make this happen ?
No need right now ,maybe later maybe not.
What's your strategy for getting the necessary KP ? NPC Crafting order are quite expensive
I'm not at that stage yet - So will work that out over the coming days.
In the description vs the video the number of materials needed are different? Can you clarify this? Also, thank you for all your hard work!
I don't believe so - Will double check though thanks.
Looking at the current prices for blasphemite looks pretty bleak.
Do you think the current prices are due to no demand and will pick up mythic week?
Just looks like heaps of stock so far.
Prices are cheap because there is more supply than demand. Once the gear progression properly starts you will see the demand
rise. Because the price of them are so cheap people will stop making them until the demand increases. Man I love how the free
market works. TIP dont stress as long as you provide value to the market you will win.
I really like the full explanation on this video. There is however 1 question that pops to mind and I don't think you covered it.
You are talking off creating Blasphemite as off day 4, but this would require 75 knowledge points at the minimum. In your earlier videos you talked about a possibility off gaining around 60 KP, does this mean this is actually a think that can not be compelted on day 4, but rather on the first reset that opens weekly quests? (it's not 75 minimum, but you advised first 55 in Thaumaturgy for the end bonus)
Perhaps your right I never considered if it was going to be day 4. I meant the fourth day after getting the required points to efficiently
gather gleaming transmutagen. Thinking about it now It would more likely be closer to the end of the second week that we can start
pumping them out considering we are gold efficient on production.
Great guide but how do you get the Philosopher's Stone?
That's where our due diligence comes in. I have a post on X
The ingenuity proc at end didn't give you 47 per thing you went from 678 to 632 on craft. which isn't even 47 they shafted u and rolled down. Also to get 100% back I believe you have to spec into Ingenuity, can't remember if alch is one with it some dont have that node to refund 100% base is 50.
Good pick up Bob. Alchemy doesn't have an Ingenuity Sub Specialization. It's hard to tell
exactly what kind of profits I will be getting once I reach the full build. I just know it will be value
and that means gold. Either way I won't be losing money and that helps me towards my goal.
Long video, lets go!
Long form is good?
@@Goldzen_tv good for me since I watch YT in 1.75x speed most of the time. :)
OMG this video is 11/10 🙌🏻
Awesome glad you found it helpful in anyway.
Many thanks for the very good videos, very detailed and informative. I hope we can look over your shoulder while streaming soon.
But I have a question about the1000 concentration. Do you have 1000 per profession or per character?
If it is per character and you learn e.g. alchi with tailoring you would not necessarily need the alchi max. build.
1000 for each - I wish they increased the cap too 2000 which means we can log on once a week
on some alts to consume the concentration.
Hello Goldzen. I just found your channel as i was looking into preparing a goldmaking strategy in TWW using alts.
I had one question for you: How important is it to level your crafting alts? Is it going to be necessary to level each of them to 80 in TWW?
As of right now levelling to 80 is not a requirement.
Quick question - what’s the fastest way for new alts to obtain any type of alchemist stone to be able to start transmuting? How did you do it for your multiple alts 0.0
x.com/Goldzen_TV/status/1824965480383414491
I think the mist of pandaria one is cheaper and easier to get.
Could you look at SoulSoBreezy video "THE War Within Alchemy Guide, Deep Dive With Build Suggestions and More!" for his build like your Phase 1 but it allows the making of gleaming transmutagen day 1 with less points that your order. I would love your analysis/insight.
Great find Scotty his build is super interesting. It does make him able to get Blasphemites early than my build. But it will cost more
there is an argument that he can get quick gold doing this method. But I like the more efficient slow route. And by the time I get there
I should have way more gleaming transmutagen overall. It's still a totally viable option one I did not consider at all so thanks for that insight.
Find your videos thanks to youtube algorythm, pleasant surprise ! I'll definitely try the alchemy alt army.
I have a question, I want to try both alchemy and tailoring army but I'll have 12 characters in totals, how would you spread professions on them ? should I juste dual profession tailoring/alchemy on all 12 of them ? shoudl I pick herbalism on some alt for the alchemy ?
Make 4 toons with all 8 main professions, have a dual gatherer. have a main toon with tailoring, inscription for cloth/darkmoon drops
the rest cant go wrong with making them all tailor/alchemists.
@@Goldzen_tv Thanks a lot for your help !
Thanks for another good guide. I wanna go that path but do you recommend this for some1 that will have only 5 alts for some steady income? Wouldnt be better in that case to lvl jc on main to mby funnel blasphemite for ring/settings craft? Since ppl with less alts gonna have advantage of better control on money benefits from blasphemite
You could surely do it. But then your limiting yourself to just those markets. If only using 5 alts I would have one
of each primary profession and a dual gatherer. Then just use concentration on your 4 toons to craft the most expensive thing
that you can every few days.
In dragonflight i was late to the transmute army party and by the time i set up transmuters, everyone and their grandma did too and it made transmutes barely worth doing.
Having a plan, Patience and Persistence - Is the best option for gold making. try to be more
proactive and less reactive and you will do great things in life.
new here , great breakdown mate 😎
Welcome in mate happy to have you here.
Nice true info fellow illuminati researcher.
*Nod*
hi. I have found today. that if main cyrcle in Thaumaturgy is on full 55 piont than each type of blue trasnmutation will award extra gleaming tranmutagen if you do it first time a day. I did today 5 blue transmutation and got each time 21-24 gleaming. I thought it will work once a day on some of blue transmutation.
55 points allows you to get a bonus gleaming transmutagen when using thaumaturgy. The rare transmutagen cooldowns always give +20 gleaming transmutagens.
You can get 40+ a day efficiently.
I hated recording this part of my profession video, so many friggin long words.
True , once the terminology is normalized they will change it again >< - really looking forward
to the endgame shuffle that will be thaumaturgy.
@@Goldzen_tv Ya, I think it looks really good too.
what do you use concentration on during this build? like in phase 1 or 2?
Probably just use it whenever i transmute via thaumaturgy it only takes effect when maxxed
Amazing video - since Im just starting to build my army and they don't have their Philosopher's Stones just yet - which Philosopher's Stone would be easiest to get/make for many alts?
Thank you in advance and as always - great video, packed full of crazy good information
Suggest crafting the classic stone only requires 50 skill to make and recipe is bought in Gadgetzscan I posted
a infographic on X about it. x.com/Goldzen_TV/status/1824965480383414491
@@Goldzen_tv I literally just did a bit of my research and found that you can go to Klaxxi in Pandaria, learn pandaria alchemy and recipe for Zen alchemist stone straight from the vendor (no need for any skill ups) and craft it for 3 Golden lotus (on my realm thats 23 gold for all 3). So I guess it depends on what is cheaper/faster on your realm :)
@@Goldzen_tv I literally just finished doing my bit of research on this and it seems like on my realm the chepest and fastest way is to go to Klaxxi in Pandaria and learn Pandaria Alchemy and Zen Alchemist Stone straight from the vendor (no skill ups needed) and craft it for the cost of 3 Golden Lotus (which cost 23 gold for all 3 on my realm). So I guess it come to which way is cheaper/faster on your realm :)
ngl i lost track after the first 15-20min, a written guide or just a tldr would be awesome
Sorry I cater mostly to the older generation.
I did watch the whole thing, just saying that its confusing when its so long
hey goldzen i saw on an other video saying you will realease a spreadsheet about war within when are you planning on doin git?
I've changed my mind, its too much work for me I kind of want people to make their own tbh.
hi, quick question, which philosophers stone to get ? for the alt army ?
I believe the one from pandaria is easier to obtain
I cant wrap my head around how to get to 75 knowledge points (phase 1). Gonna get 65 skill far earlier than the knowledge point, no? :p
treasures, first time crafts, weekly knowledge quests coming out tomorrow. Patron orders also a big one.
it will become clear later on.
@@Goldzen_tv are there quests for knowledge except for patron orders? Have you been able to reach 75? :(
Great stuff! Between the tailoring and alchemy professions starting in the war within, do you think you will achieve 100 million in the war within if you were starting at.... say sub 5 million at launch? Interested to hear what you think these will make throughout the expansion.
Here's hoping I can tbh I got no idea.
@@Goldzen_tv Is my math correct? I'll have 70 characters with Alchemy. In phase 1, log into each and do daily craft for 25 gleaming transmutagen. 25 x 70 = 1,750 gleaming transmutagen each day. That x 7 days in a week = 12,250. Divide that by 80 to craft the Blasphemite equals 153 Blasphemite per week. Say Blasphemite is 2k each, that is roughly 306,250g a week. I know this is not pure profit, but take out what crafting cost is, should be decent gold each week while you are building to phase 2. I would think the Blasphemite would be worth more than 2k each to start as well. Am I correct on this math? With 92 alts, you would be crafting 201 Blasphemite per week?
This kinda means if I'm not the correct race, I basically should better NOT do Alchi and take something else with the chars instead. Thanks for the heads up!
It only applies for the full 230 point build - totally min/max in terms of gold making
@@Goldzen_tv if i can piggy back on this comment above, what is the realistic loss from not being these races, and is there not a potion or old enchant that can get the other races over the hump. I understand this is an well worked out theory which i appreciate the work put into this guide. Kinda dampened my 40 druids i raced to 70 in the last week of remix that are upright trolls
So on that daily login are you going to collect all the KPs on every alt? Or just this one login and thats it?
The priority will be to do the daily logins first on all the alts, the log in and chip away at the weekly knowledge.
I'd rather spread it out over a whole week rather than just one day if you know what I mean.
whats the difference between some of the transmutes? Like Ominoius Gloom and Ominous Call reads the same to me
It reads the same but it's mainly the combination of transmutagen that is being used.
If you have all of them unlocked you can pick any one it doesnt really matter since its mainly used to create efficient
gleaming. But I still believe that system is only half implemented. Bit of a sleeper tbh
@@Goldzen_tv i just tested it out on beta, since beta is still up. they all have different pools of mats they give. I also calculated there current worth. some of them are at 1k (EU prices) at T3. the best one is at 3.6k on average. I also tested out gleaming Chaos. currently ~1k worth. i can share my data if wanted :)
is 75 kp obtainable week one ? also amazing videos no stone left unturned
Probably not week one, wekk 2 or 3 definately theres no rush man.
hi quick question, is keeping the alts at 70 enough? Or is it worth the effort to max out to 80?
You do not have to level them up at all still can do everything thing I showed here, However I suspect
they might bring in new recipes on the first patch that may require us to be level 80 to obtain. but who knows.
Hay ... whats is your best advise for someone who has like 300 to 400 k starting gold and not into farming only crafting which 2 professions and specializations you would suggest to make maximum gold with early access and 9 alts ... you help will be much appreciated cause i am confused as hell if i lvl up professions earlier i will lose all gold and dnt have anything to buy mats and if i wait then i will lose the edge to be the among the early gold makers.
If it were me I would go Engineering and specialize in the profession tools and Inscription and specialize into contracts ASAP.
I tested, it stops giving 5 skills at 60 not 65, might be because you have the racial for +skill
Correct
Do my characters have to be at max level to start doing this, or can I start doing this at level 70? I'm assuming you don't have to be max level because I can't imagine you are going to level up 80 alts.
No requirement needed to level up, I'm just levelling them up because at my core I'm a leveller.
@@Goldzen_tv Thanks for the fast reply Mr. Goldzen. I think I'm going to be using your alt army alchemy and tailoring strategies on many of my alts, hopefully it pays off. Leveling 80 alts is a massive undertaking, I wish you all the best and I hope you achieve your gold making goals in this xpac.
can you make a guide on how to get all the KP please ?... more like how do we maximize KP ? like daily and weekly etc
It's on the list-!
all my non goblin 70 chars cry now haha, but 3 blue tools is also a lot of time invest it needs
Yeah sure is, I'll wait for a sale
You didnt cover +15 skill to all alchemy crafts while phial (under Fantastic flasks) therefore would i still be able to do the convertion from tier 1 to tier 3 with longer path to max out flasks first and then convert rather taking your route ( but being any race)
oh wow I didn't even know there was a phial, guess being a kul tiran or goblin just makes you save on the cost.
I'm not perfect but i try to be so thanks for the great info mate thats an awesome reply
@@Goldzen_tv but that skill doesnt affect to thaumaturgy no? only for flask
@@plssf it is meantioned to all alchemy craft skill
@@kyojurotube4224 maybe i'm missing something, i put all KP on all fantastic flask nodes and i still get 333 skill on thaumaturgy
These points will only effect Flask 's and Phials
Can you also share the path/route for your alt army to gain all these KP that needed for the setup? Thanks
I swear i put that into the guide.
I approve of this ai generated image.
AI is crazy fun to play around with.
@@Goldzen_tv Is it really that mandatory to be kul tiran as an alchemist? I've levelled like 65 night elf druis on mop remix, i didnt even give race/class any thought really just easier to do the same over and over.
Is this only for TWW or does it already work in DF?
Sorry but your going to have to be more specific. Assuming that you mean this guide is for TWW and not DF
Are you sure 55 KP is needed for the daily bonus? On the beta I already got the daily bonus for gleaming at 35.
Really that's interesting I never came across that bug. The 55th point in Thaumaturgy states the daily bonus when using Thaumaturgy. Are you perhaps
getting the rare transmute gleaming mixed up with the daily gleaming bonus from thaumaturgy. Double check phase 2
How long until you get this 55 KP ? There is not many recipes, there is only unique treasures..
I don't know with 100% certainty - I just know that I will get there.
But why bother with all this alts when you can just put 500 (whatever mats/cheapest mats) and turn that into 80 gleaming and spam make blasphemite early
And at that point, for people who does this has become rich of blasphemite and it will tank the price to the ground because someone will have like thousands blasphemites early on
Just fyi, I really hope they remove getting 3 gleaming every time from doing thaumathurgy and make it only viable trough daily cd
There's two ways of doing things mate, The efficient way and the inefficient way. Both are great because
it will be a constant price battle between the two and eventually the market will find and settle on a price.
If your goal is to spam all the materials into blasphemite go right ahead someone has to do it :p
@@Goldzen_tv ye I just feel like blasphemite will have no value because people will just find the reallreallt cheap mats ans turn it into blasphemite with no cost and tank the item
Anyway I love your guides and videos! Keep it up man💕
What other profession will you pair alchemy with, considering both professions will compete for concentration, and considering your alchemy setup will be optimized for daily login, as opposed to some of your other profession setup that are optimized for login twice a week. It appears as your alchemy setup will not need concentration early on, so it would make sense to pair with another profession that requires concentration early on, but that may not benefit from centration later on ?
Concentration is separate for each profession. I didn't mention it in the video
but you can use concentration anytime you have it available for transmuting or
thaumaturgy.
@@Goldzen_tv Thank you. I watched all your other profession setup video, and it appears as alchemy would be the only profession setup where you would logon daily, all other are bi-weekly. So what will you pair alchemy with and why ?
Hey can we reched to 65 skill with lvl 70 char ?
Technically you can get to 100 as a level 70 character.
So just to be clear, ALL of this working hinges on being a Goblin or Kul'tiran?
i mean you can still go for blasphemites and tier 2 material conversion but you will never be able to convert 1 to 3
Exactly! - Well said
Do you need to be max lvl for this?
negative just skill and 230 knowledge
How to lvl 1-70 right now?
I'm using the same method just stop making healing potions at 25 then make 10 petal powder until skill 33-35 then 6-7 daily meticulous
experimentations to around 60-65 then its just transmutes from there to skill 100.
@@Goldzen_tv I mean character level ^^