Excellent video. I'm hanging an Armstrong bracket this weekend that I picked up recently. I'm glad to see a solution just in case I don't have my angles absolutely perfect. Also I love the new dialogue format. Keep crushing it and Thanks for the awesome content and info!
As I grow closer to retirement, I've caught the boating bug. It's blessing to have come across this channel. Very informative for both experienced and novice boaters. Great content!
For what it is worth, rather than risk damage to the bill with chisels, you should try taking some braided fishing line and use it as a rope saw for cutting the 5200.
The hardware is not straining much. I set a pilot house on some and backed it up but it never would have moved. It was a strong, strong bond that would rip up the deck before letting go. Good stuff for the right purpose.
@@robertp7209 Maybe and maybe not. This only raised it a matter of a couple inches tops. Wedging and raising the engine using the lower bolt holes may have worked and there would be no future worry about his wedging material shim correctly or work free over time, engine torque when accelerating and decelerating,.... and waves pounding it.
@@robertp7209 Agree - the bracket should have been higher to put the engine mount location where it needs to be. This just wasn't mounted in the right place .
The biggest thing that I took away from this video is that I need a new jigsaw. I have mostly to walk tools, and a crappy little jigsaw. Seeing how smooth that one operated made me realize it's time to expand my collection.
I did something very similar on my 16' aluminum boat, I wedged a few stacked plates of 1/8 aluminum plate (welded together) between the transom and my jackplate and it made a noticeable difference.
Great video Aaron! You can never go wrong with 3M products! I saw a Verado at work today on a pallet destined for disposal. Had to say a little prayer and hold a service for it 🙏🏼 😭. But honestly I did think, now if I had that, how could I make it functional and what would it cost?! 😂 we have SafeBoats with Mercury power which get flipped out after reaching their designated service hours
For future installation of brackets, wrap a piece of 80lb mono or piece of dacron before using the 5200. Leave two tails accessible. When you or the next guy has to remove it, you can cut through the 5200.
My old boat was a bracketed 23 center console. The bracket always leaked. I ended up putting a little automatic bilge pump inside the bracket. It had an old Mercury 250 EFI and could do 42 MPH at 5800 RPM. I'm surprised you're only getting 45 mph out of that 300 HP.
The type of propeller you have can affect your speed. Our boat can go 55 but we have a high pitch propeller on it so it only goes 43. We sacrificed speed for acceleration. It accelerates like a jetski.
@@UltraMagaFan and you have a low pitch propeller if you want to have more torque for getting out of the hole. A high pitch propeller is like being in a higher gear.
@@ericdavi1231 I was just thinking maybe they wanted acceleration with that boat. I really don’t know. It could be anything making it go slower. I also meant low pitch propellers my bad.
lol Can't tell you how many times I have had to pull a bracket and it (5200)destroys the glass and gel coats, even had one rip the entire transom off . Amazing stuff, above water and things like your bracket could be installed with 4200 and save your transom possibly as well as having plenty of strength and seal power.
That 5200 can be removed it's a tough job but I've done it and without damaging the boat. If you use slightly heated heavey duty putty knives you will speed up the process and use plastic wedges to keep spreading the joint as you use heated putty knife and cut the adhesive as close to the bracket as possible.
You put the bracket on incorrectly by not compensating for the distance behind the transom where the motor is... Engineering rule of thumb is add 1 inch for every 1 ft. in your case it looks like the bracket moves the engine back by about 28-30 inches. I noticed your mistake when you mounted the bracket... It happens
It might sound like a stupid question for seasoned boaters, but bear with me for a second: why not attach the engine to the transom directly (maybe strengthening the transom before, if needed) instead of put it on a bracket with all this work to do?
Sometimes moving the engine back is a performance upgrade. Some like that it moves all the “mechanicals” back off the transom, which creates more open cockpit space for fishing etc.
It basically kinda like tricking the boat and motor. If its a 22' boat and you put 24" or 30" bracket on the boat it will ride like a longer boat with the transom bracket.
use plastic chainsaw wedges... they wont ruin the fiberglass.. theyre dirt cheap, i use them for all sorts of stuff besides sawing down trees... i always have three or four in my tool boxes wherever i go. you can reshape them to whatever size and shape with a grinder or sander... and theyre made to be beat on with a hammer.... theyre super handy for this stuff..
NOT the best video for me to watch right before going to bed, as my brain will now be spinning for the next 2 hours thinking of my own project. Smh .. Thanks for another great vid!
5200. Works great…until you need to remove whatever it’s glued to.🤣. I had a swim-step I wanted to move from starboard to port. Same issue. It held the entire boat up and would not go down without a fight. Never knew about the galling. Interesting. Thanks. Nice job, as usual.
Being a Mercruiser guy, something about bracket physics scare me. Then again, I get to hang another sterndrive this weekend which is a bit like putting toothpaste back in the tube.
I also don't understand why even put a standoff bracket for the engine (s) in the first place? Did the original boat builder not know what they were doing with the transom in the first place? I personally dont like the idea of those bracelets because it makes fish more difficult with the engines being out further to get around when fighting 🤔 Pretty slick, the way you fixed that boat....😊
Salt water is BRUTAL to everything Metallic which is clearly why the addition of sacrificial anodes are so vital ... Use a router with the proper 1 inch flat milling bit then feather it was sander
Do you mostly cruise around (I.E. short distances) with that boat and go offshore a few times a year? Just curious as I live in Texas and most people with a boat that big only have 3-4 months out of the year to realistically take them offshore due to the winds on our coast.
An old boat with new hardware is a gem. A new boat with cheap hardware is a problem waiting to happen. Marine stainless is king. The hull itself is what really matters. You can build a better boat than they did. I've done it more than once and I'm doing it right now on a welded aluminum boat that should last a lifetime. Start with the right hull. Look for a matching wrong hull with top notch hardware. Go new in critical areas and you will have a fine and seaworthy vessel you can depend on - Fail Safely 🙂 and pay attention to these vids.
Great video You are a smart young man in a world of dummies Anyways It would have been GREAt if you had measured the distance from floor to engine mount elevation without the angled adapter and again with dry mounted the bracket and measure again to see how much "lift" the prop axle got with the 1" shaved adapter Thanks for the video
Question, why dont you have a trim tab anode on that engine, just curiouse cuz i have a 2004 yamaha 225 and i have lost one already and just sae that you just have a flat one on your engine, is it beneficial or what
Thank you! Potentially yes, currently looking for another project boat, so haven't committed to letting it go yet, but it's been in the conversation. Where are you located? email me at aaron@bornagainboating.com
Of course your fix is a lot better but why not just buy wedges for that fit between the motor and the bracket , I guess your trying the raise the bracket and the motor
I knew 5200 was strong but I had no idea it could hold up a whole entire boat. That is incredible.
@@FAKE-NAME Don’t glue anything with it. It only works on wood and fiberglass. It’s a marine adhesive only.
Excellent video. I'm hanging an Armstrong bracket this weekend that I picked up recently. I'm glad to see a solution just in case I don't have my angles absolutely perfect. Also I love the new dialogue format. Keep crushing it and Thanks for the awesome content and info!
As I grow closer to retirement, I've caught the boating bug. It's blessing to have come across this channel. Very informative for both experienced and novice boaters. Great content!
Glad to help
Give an old man a boat and he will never have to wonder what to do with his time or his money 🙂 I'm already there 🙂
For what it is worth, rather than risk damage to the bill with chisels, you should try taking some braided fishing line and use it as a rope saw for cutting the 5200.
It will also cut you to the bone 🤢 Tread carefully with braided lines.🙂
5200 is crazy good stuff. If you use a heat gun and warm it up it helps to release the bond.
The hardware is not straining much. I set a pilot house on some and backed it up but it never would have moved. It was a strong, strong bond that would rip up the deck before letting go. Good stuff for the right purpose.
It is always a nice time when watching your videos, very entertaining!!! The job came out fantastic. Looking forward for the next one. 👊🏻
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice job! This channel is one of the few I always just hit thumbs up before the video even starts. Always fantastic content.
Thank you!
You did an awesome job! Very informative! You do very good work! Love you videos!
love projects like this. glad to see this boat still kicking.
Nice. Love the length of this video too. Longer than normal. Feel like I got a two-fer
Excellent! Great work as always. Appreciate the time and effort you take making these videos.
Bro you are the man that’s one great idea you definitely killed it . It’s that’s your boat you saved a pretty penny
Seriously u have the best channel on RUclips i was worried u quit making videos all the videos seemed older
Cheers!
Two suggestions, #1 wedge the engine instead of the whole bracket and #2 there is a chemical solution to remove 5200.
Seems the engine needed to be higher up at its mount. Wedging the engine is not going to do it.
@@robertp7209 Maybe and maybe not. This only raised it a matter of a couple inches tops. Wedging and raising the engine using the lower bolt holes may have worked and there would be no future worry about his wedging material shim correctly or work free over time, engine torque when accelerating and decelerating,.... and waves pounding it.
@@robertp7209 Agree - the bracket should have been higher to put the engine mount location where it needs to be. This just wasn't mounted in the right place .
A way to stop gualing is to use hand tools to tighten your bolts. Less torque means less heat
This is Not a Channel... this is A World of Boats ! This is Great and A Man´s Job !!!
The biggest thing that I took away from this video is that I need a new jigsaw. I have mostly to walk tools, and a crappy little jigsaw. Seeing how smooth that one operated made me realize it's time to expand my collection.
I did something very similar on my 16' aluminum boat, I wedged a few stacked plates of 1/8 aluminum plate (welded together) between the transom and my jackplate and it made a noticeable difference.
Nice job Aaron. The fix turned out really good.
Thank you!
Good work ! All with stuff laying around the shop
Great video Aaron! You can never go wrong with 3M products! I saw a Verado at work today on a pallet destined for disposal. Had to say a little prayer and hold a service for it 🙏🏼 😭. But honestly I did think, now if I had that, how could I make it functional and what would it cost?! 😂 we have SafeBoats with Mercury power which get flipped out after reaching their designated service hours
I like the new format of your vids...keep it up bro
Appreciate it!
Nice meeting you yesterday brother. Great content
Thanks! You too!
It would be hard for me to put that bracket back on without sanding and painting it but I get it love the video
Same here. I guess I'm a bit of a perfectionist. Cool video though.
For future installation of brackets, wrap a piece of 80lb mono or piece of dacron before using the 5200. Leave two tails accessible. When you or the next guy has to remove it, you can cut through the 5200.
Another use for braided line ?
I remember watch the boatyard guys take off an inboard prop strut and that 5200 took a layer of glass off with it , we called it 52-GLUE-HUNDREAD
As a chemist in 3Ms back yard, that's not 5200.
Maybe templates out of aluminum as a Gide to help make the shape. So it’s consistent. Love the videos thank you.
Best boating channel out there thanks for sharing
Our pleasure!
Very interesting.
Did the performances of the boat improved as you expected it would?
Dude. Love your videos. Especially the end. Didn’t know you were from Louisiana. I’m probably right down da bayou from you. 😂
This is why its important to measure your transome, and a used bracket to make sure it will work. or you will have to do things twice.
Nah measure once cut three times! 😂
Make a template for a trial fit.
Watching you makes me smarter than a lot of marine people in Canada. Do my universals and gimbles guess what they sank it
They make shims for the motor. You just unbolt the motor put the shim in and bolt it back on.
I was waiting to see if they had a level in the shop LOL
Awesome job dude. 👍🇺🇸
Thanks for stopping by!
My old boat was a bracketed 23 center console. The bracket always leaked. I ended up putting a little automatic bilge pump inside the bracket. It had an old Mercury 250 EFI and could do 42 MPH at 5800 RPM. I'm surprised you're only getting 45 mph out of that 300 HP.
The type of propeller you have can affect your speed. Our boat can go 55 but we have a high pitch propeller on it so it only goes 43. We sacrificed speed for acceleration. It accelerates like a jetski.
@@UltraMagaFan I understand that a propeller makes a huge difference. I figured he probably has the right propeller because he does a lot of repowers.
@@UltraMagaFan and you have a low pitch propeller if you want to have more torque for getting out of the hole. A high pitch propeller is like being in a higher gear.
@@ericdavi1231 I was just thinking maybe they wanted acceleration with that boat. I really don’t know. It could be anything making it go slower. I also meant low pitch propellers my bad.
@@UltraMagaFan he might have it propped for more torque, but I feel like he’s leaving some on the table having 50 extra HP than I had.
lol Can't tell you how many times I have had to pull a bracket and it (5200)destroys the glass and gel coats, even had one rip the entire transom off . Amazing stuff, above water and things like your bracket could be installed with 4200 and save your transom possibly as well as having plenty of strength and seal power.
That 5200 can be removed it's a tough job but I've done it and without damaging the boat. If you use slightly heated heavey duty putty knives you will speed up the process and use plastic wedges to keep spreading the joint as you use heated putty knife and cut the adhesive as close to the bracket as possible.
You put the bracket on incorrectly by not compensating for the distance behind the transom where the motor is... Engineering rule of thumb is add 1 inch for every 1 ft. in your case it looks like the bracket moves the engine back by about 28-30 inches. I noticed your mistake when you mounted the bracket... It happens
Nice job great video, one of your best
Glad you enjoyed it
It might sound like a stupid question for seasoned boaters, but bear with me for a second: why not attach the engine to the transom directly (maybe strengthening the transom before, if needed) instead of put it on a bracket with all this work to do?
Sometimes moving the engine back is a performance upgrade. Some like that it moves all the “mechanicals” back off the transom, which creates more open cockpit space for fishing etc.
@@malekodesouza7255 Thanks!
It basically kinda like tricking the boat and motor. If its a 22' boat and you put 24" or 30" bracket on the boat it will ride like a longer boat with the transom bracket.
@@briansmith5469 Thank you.
Wish I had a fork lift when I removed my bracket. 😂. Spent days getting it off of there.
Lol ikr? Same here
use plastic chainsaw wedges... they wont ruin the fiberglass.. theyre dirt cheap, i use them for all sorts of stuff besides sawing down trees... i always have three or four in my tool boxes wherever i go. you can reshape them to whatever size and shape with a grinder or sander... and theyre made to be beat on with a hammer.... theyre super handy for this stuff..
A Yamaha prop on a Verado. Love it.
NOT the best video for me to watch right before going to bed, as my brain will now be spinning for the next 2 hours thinking of my own project. Smh .. Thanks for another great vid!
5200. Works great…until you need to remove whatever it’s glued to.🤣. I had a swim-step I wanted to move from starboard to port. Same issue. It held the entire boat up and would not go down without a fight.
Never knew about the galling. Interesting. Thanks. Nice job, as usual.
Being a Mercruiser guy, something about bracket physics scare me. Then again, I get to hang another sterndrive this weekend which is a bit like putting toothpaste back in the tube.
Thankfully you apparently didn't put the 5200 on properly and enough. ❤❤❤😂😂😂 good work 👏
I also don't understand why even put a standoff bracket for the engine (s) in the first place? Did the original boat builder not know what they were doing with the transom in the first place? I personally dont like the idea of those bracelets because it makes fish more difficult with the engines being out further to get around when fighting 🤔
Pretty slick, the way you fixed that boat....😊
Also, you can buy premade aluminum wedges
Salt water is BRUTAL to everything Metallic which is clearly why the addition of sacrificial anodes are so vital ... Use a router with the proper 1 inch flat milling bit then feather it was sander
Could you have just added a hydraulic jackplate for the motor to go up and down in addition to the power tilt that it already has?
If I was to try to do anything like work on a boat it would sink like a upside down bathtub 🤣
why do all that work? put a wedge from bob's machine. between the engine and mounting point?
LOVE the flag on the door
Man…. I hate 5200 😣😣😣
It does not fail. If you want permanent, it's the best.
Transom angles for the old outboard to sit cool
Nice score on the coosa scraps
Why not take out ALL of the downward angle of the bracket using Coosa?
There's a reason 5200 is known as Satan's glue lol
3:00 nice pun!!!
It might be easier to change the angle on the engine
I'm not done watching it yes but no matter what you shave it with hidden away just need to make it work
Ever thought of using tree felling wedges for the shims? They’re hard plastic
Never thought about that
Hindsight is always 20/20 but looking back it's still a bit fuzzy
why didn't you see that when you fitted the motor. and wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to modify the bracket. seeing you know it didn't leak ect...
Excellent video 👍🏼
Thanks for the visit
I use anchorlube tap and drill lube. Never gaulls and has lots of uses
5200 The devils toothpaste!
Great video. Thanks
You are welcome!
Don't have a boat, but I love the videos. haha
My friend is selling his 2007 seaswirl center console boat are they good boats to buy thanks
could you do a video that compares the L6 mercury verado, (350-400) and the v8 ams, (250-300. And will they ever make a 350-400 v8?
What is the bracket made out of? Metal?
Think the 5200 is a quick substitute for thickened epoxy the way people use it. If you want it gone you're cutting anyway.
Do you mostly cruise around (I.E. short distances) with that boat and go offshore a few times a year? Just curious as I live in Texas and most people with a boat that big only have 3-4 months out of the year to realistically take them offshore due to the winds on our coast.
So all that for the same speed ?
An old boat with new hardware is a gem. A new boat with cheap hardware is a problem waiting to happen. Marine stainless is king. The hull itself is what really matters. You can build a better boat than they did. I've done it more than once and I'm doing it right now on a welded aluminum boat that should last a lifetime. Start with the right hull. Look for a matching wrong hull with top notch hardware. Go new in critical areas and you will have a fine and seaworthy vessel you can depend on - Fail Safely 🙂 and pay attention to these vids.
Great video
You are a smart young man in a world of dummies
Anyways
It would have been GREAt if you had measured the distance from floor to engine mount elevation without the angled adapter and again with dry mounted the bracket and measure again to see how much "lift" the prop axle got with the 1" shaved adapter
Thanks for the video
Get the torch out next time and the 5200 will release without tearing things up
I need a used 4 stroke out board engine
What would you make off of a job like this? I'm an amateur boat repair guy. Just curious.
Question, why dont you have a trim tab anode on that engine, just curiouse cuz i have a 2004 yamaha 225 and i have lost one already and just sae that you just have a flat one on your engine, is it beneficial or what
Where are you located? I’d love to have you work on my boat.
where do you get brackets so cheap?>
Awesome Job!!
Thank you! Cheers!
why not use a vacuum bag to dry the resin?
Good job man
Nice job guys is ocean for sale because I was looking for one for two years up north can’t find one
Thank you! Potentially yes, currently looking for another project boat, so haven't committed to letting it go yet, but it's been in the conversation. Where are you located? email me at aaron@bornagainboating.com
5200 is for life lol
Of course your fix is a lot better but why not just buy wedges for that fit between the motor and the bracket , I guess your trying the raise the bracket and the motor
Much better mechanic orientated video
Did the speed increase?
Looks like you mounted the engine higher too
Nice job👍
Thanks for the visit
Where do you get the shirt make ?
Have a charter company in the Bahamas and would like some shirt to be make
Did you gain speed with the fix ???v you should have gained 5 mph anyway
One question: should you be tightening those bolts to a specific torque-setting?
The Cruse of 5200, got to love and hate it 🙂