After patch 1.13, the sleep buildup from xbow was reduced, but the counterplay to the setup remains the same. I still would always recommend making these talisman changes if you encounter a sleep build. additionally, ailment talisman was buffed, so you no longer have to bolus after the sleep proc, and youre given an empty status meter directly after being afflicted while using ailment talisman. all in all, a very good change.
the amount of Hosts I see using howl of shabriri because some youtube video told them it was a good idea, only to immediately get one-shot by the boss, is astounding btw, with 400 focus you can use a lulling branch for fp regen and never get slept
well, it is a really good idea, if the boss can catch the frenzy, otherwise it should only be used on ranged builds or by people that know how to dodge the boss already
The amount of hosts and summons at lvl 150-200 I see with 1400 hp and less is scaring me. No wonder so many people say the dlc is too hard and unbalanced
Honestly your comment is what made me actually look up what that skill actually did and youre damn right lol I never remember anyone ever mentioning the +30% damage taken, glad I only tried to stack buffs for a few bosses!
“He starts panic rolling and then I start panic rolling to his panic rolling, I don’t wanna talk about it.” LOL bro I feel u, I’ve done the same thing before and have no clue why 😂
Crazy how many of the issues in this game all just stem from phantom hits lmao. Having to get hit out of the air to avoid sleep because Iframing it has a chance to just murder you anyways, Claws of Night headshots, and the Sword of Damnation just doing whatever the hell it wants lol.
thiollier's concotion is a good counter in the arena to stuff like this, it also makes it so that you don't have to waste your time or mind against such setups!
@@leonardo9259 It's part of the 125 - 150 meta. Everyone dumpstats mind and winds up with low focus then complains that madness and sleep is to strong. I know that it's because endurance and vigor both boost survivability with health and equipment load so they edge out mind as the most important non damage scaling stat but it was never intended by From that everyone would minmax by dumpstating mind. Not saying that there is good solution other than nerfing sleep and abandoning the rock papper scissor of mind heavy builds being strong against sleep builds since mind heavy builds are weaker to basically all other optimised builds. But it is a funny situation of people refusing to level a situational defensive stat and then complaining about the mechanic it defends against being to strong.
Dont forget whit 17 int you can cast Lucidity to clean the sleep build up, the animation makes most people roll because they dont know what the hell you are doing, it feels weird that Lucidity wasnt even mentioned but its still an option for some builds.
You're a king for making guides like this. Haven't seen anyone run this yet, but I've been avoiding meta like the plague until the final patch comes through. Good to have the knowledge for when FS inevitably drops the final patch without nerfing status into the ground (like they should).
The high end of souls pvp never really sat right with, not my style at the endi of the day. The amount of hard swaps that take place is just... Gross to look at I think it all started in dark soul 3 where i hit a guy once with ulta great sword and he went from a samurai, to a kitbash tank hard switching between 4 weapons The skill it takes in undeniable, same with unlock fighting, but my suspension if disbelief thins too much during those times, and i wish it didnt But seeing a man sprint away in circles, not even "looking" at the fight his apart in half the time, with armor flashing between sets faster then Erza Scarlet, and manifesting more weapons mid fight that an armory wold blush... Hurts my soul
Ive made peace with status hitting through i-ifames its a good option for high lat. But I do think you should be able to roll cancel sleep and frenzy, just like bleed and frost.
5:30 The ailment talisman can boost Focus, Robustness, and Immunity at the same time. It's just that the boost for Focus only lasts 30 seconds versus the much longer boosts Immunity (120s) and Robustness (60s) get
@@Rust_BKT do you know if the ghost headshots are bad or worse with higher amounts of latency? I haven't been able to deduce if its only offender side confirmation or either side confirmation for the headshot, regardless of damage
Nice video. When you lift the hood on the complexities of Elden Ring combat, I find my appreciation for this game goes up dramatically. Never mind the story and art and designs, the mechanics of combat is a part of the game you don't see unless you look inside, and it's every bit as brilliant as the rest.
First time ive seen someone praise the high enduranve build. Running a build with 42 end rn plus erd trees favor +2 and it is nuts. I can string together much longer combos of crazy attacks like heavy faints running attacks, rolls and blocks without running out of stamina and it feels like a batlefield dance session
The amount of annoying spam they added in the DLC. From homing bows, to the shotgun and the claw scattershot. Let alone all the spells. I really hope they balance this stuff out a bit.
so i know that only a limited amount of bolts can hit, but could an int build use law of causality to have some safety upon getting hit by the shotgun, since it activates on a number of hits instead of damage recieved?
Thank you for showing us the ways to deal with new cancers, is it just me or the Damnation GreatSword's ash can't be rolled ? For now the only way to deal with it is spacing and punish the whiff.
The only build fextr made that I like is his new dragon form build because it’s a glass canon so his way of thinking on stat attribution works only for that one time. Rest of his build ideas are questionable and really make new players looking for help die quicker than they should. I’m talking about pve of course
a good tip is to just equip the shield of the night and use it to defend the shots, then use the ash of war (works like a guard counter), it's working pretty well for me.
the sleep arrows and shotgun claws both need a nerf bad, having the extra skill to item swap during combat should be a fun and cute way to squeeze a few wins out but it shouldnt be mandatory to handle cancer builds like this because some scrubs just want to noob tube their way to a win
It's astonishing that after fifteen years of making these games Fromsoft has never had the thought, "Is there a way that absolute fucking scum can abuse this?"
I have alot of the footage for it already compiled and a draft written up, but i have some other things i need to talk about before i get around to finishing that one. But sham deserves a video, absolutely
I found out recently that the new helmets that “lowers your focus” actually doesn’t. It just has a base 0 focus which is a classic Miyazaki way of giving players false information
@@Rust_BKT well I was specifically told by this by jeenine when I told he should had took off the helmet fighting against a guy spamming sleep arrows. Wiki doesn’t state that it lowers focus too besides the base 0 focus
The big lion head lowers focus. The smaller lion head(and maybe bird head but haven't gotten it yet) lowers it too but a lot smaller. I get higher focus when I use the horned headgears(+5 str/dex) vs the lion heads even though all of them lists 0 focus.
I kept telling people there’s so many counters to it, and keeping over 300 focus helps alot and even minus all the talisman counters jump attacks are so good vs spreadbow if it got nerfed it would feel so useless vs counter material. I’ve honestly loved shutting down swift slash users by sleeping them when they dash in 😂
The problem isnt even so much the sleep itself but rather the garunteed damage it gets from forcing you to jump the proc or ability to punish a bolus. Whether youre prepared or not just determines how much damage youre forced to take. But atleast with this youll have a fighting chance 🤘
Most of the time I just spitefully accept I'm probably dying if they're spamming the spread crossbow, it's that ridiculous... especially for sleep status
@Rust_BKT if I'm in s, then there shouldn't be a stat proc on either end. If I actually get hit, then it makes sense to suffer stat procs, but all the ghost hits do is promote spam until (insert stat proc) happens for free damage.
@@_You_Are_Not_Him_ what you seem to not be accounting for is that you *didnt* roll in time. You rolled late, causing the phantom hit. On the opponents screen, you werent in s when their hit landed. You want to punish players for playing well, and reward others who fail to adjust to the latency? You want to absolutely kill status builds that already have a hard enough time against players that adapt to the setup? It sounds to me you just want to avoid putting in effort and just take easy fights.
Yo rust. New bow cancer I found. Dont know if other people have yet. Bone bow ash is spammable at max range with overlapping backstep s if you mash backstep while in bow stance. I've tested a few games with it and it's nasty.
Got you. I must've missed the upload. Ill go give it a look. I just found that experimenting with crucible feather. Knowing you, you'll have all tge frame data for meXD@@Rust_BKT
Cool, but what do I do if they are a bow build with light rolling? Fought someone like that yesterday and all they did was run to the other side of the arena
I appreciate that you’re in the arena and offering counter-play solutions to problems, instead of endlessly invading and crying for nerfs every time you get ganked by PVEers.
I found a better solution for the arena. Use Thioller's concontion when you see someone pull up a crosbow, assuming they have sleep bolts. To be honest, even those people who start the fight without sleep bolts, swich to them as soon as they start losing. Use the item, get out, and just ignore those sh*t eaters.
This weapon looks like the definition of overtuned. When you need an armor swap, talisman swap, jump tech, and bolus to fight a single off hand weapon something needs to change. Would capping the amount of status applied in pvp be a fair nerf? Or would reducing the status per bolt be better so you need well placed point blank shots to instant sleep?
Hey stop right there mr fromsoftware balance team guy that might read this! if you are going to fix smt about this crossbow FOCUS (heheh) on fixing the sleep bolts problem dont gut the whole weapon because one ammo type is super strong.
@@reynauldwhistles2338 that's very fair. I was just thinking it'd be wierd to nerf one specific status effect. Hmmmm. Maybe worthwhile nerfing sleep bone bolts themselves for less sleep sp it's less effective overall? Machine crossbow and pulley can still use then fairly well in that case maybe?
Builds don't need to be adaptable when you have enough Larval-Tears. Remember that Fextra Focuses on PvE and treats it as if you were a blind Player. Their Build vids are ideal when you don't want to get Spoilt.
“Builds dont need to be adaptable wehn you have enough larval tears”…. Well that might be true if you could respec in the middle of an invasion, but you cant. You can have properly distributed stats to change your kit though. But that doesnt require larval tears, just good planning. And im aware of fextra’s focus, but theyre a meme. They are notorious for misinformation and instead of teaching players how to buildcraft, they throw together half baked “builds” because its an easy market to exploit, and as a business, its their right to do so. No hate, but it helps to sell the point of what the topic of discussion was about
This is why I wait a few months for FROM to nerf things into the ground and trust me they WILL nerf that crossbow Now if they could finally fix the chainsaw glitch
They fall more under the cateogry of “cosplay” builds than anything else, and its their perogative to do so. “Builds” are a very exploitsble market and as a business, its their right to take advantage of it, but that doenst mean that what they produce has any substance. The call out was to emphasize a point, not just bad mouth their content.
how about from not allow sleep arrows and sleep grease to restore at the end of arena match and how about they start punishing people who cheat in max amounts of them.
well for one, they arent ever going to punish duping, muling, or CEing goods into the game. and i encourage you to use these tools to your advantage, as it provides no actual ingame advantage other than saving time on collecting resources. and aint no one go the time of day to spend that many hours farming. im happy that they allow restoration of goods because this also helps the casual dad that has no knowledge about these resources, and lets them just play the game without having to worry about the insane farming loops of this horribly designed crafting system. Rather, git gud, outplay, and pray they tone down the sleep buildup to a more manageable level
@@Rust_BKT While I see where youre coming from. The way I see it is that sleep is so strong because of the limited amount of ways to proc it you get throughout the game. To me it looks like they balanced it around a player only having a few ways to proc it throughout an entire playthrough. I 100% agree though about the crafting system, it exists for nothing but tedium.
I thought punpkin head also had headshot resistance? Is it not worth over sleep gear? If i have to have solitutde around (doesnt look bad just kind of boring) then i might have pumpkin over headshot talis
Lol, I've been both aiming for headshots and have been afraid of them. Glad to hear I wasn't totally insane to do so. In my defense I don't use sleep. Is the pumpkin head that terrible?
How do you move your character so erratically like that? Whenever someone blends their animations with that erratic movement I just panic. How tf to do it?
Bro Im sorry but I cant hang with the stuff in meta level anymore. Its absolutely the most toxic thing Ive ever seen. Its just not fun. Ive moved to lower level invasions, still got problems but at least I dont want to pull my hair out when Im done playing.
Great video Rust. You say to use the mottled necklace so is there a point to keeping the dedicated stat talismans like immunizing in the inventory? It’s such a spectacle seeing these usually bad players get hard carried by the broken stuff. Use a real setup and they die instantly
Yea theres nothing wrong with using one of the resistance specific ones, and even stack it with the mottled if you wanted to. I found this to be a good opportunity to talk about the use case of ailment talisman, so i opted for that in this video as opposed to talking about stacking the 2 base resist ones, but they both serve a purpose. Ailment is just alot stronger if you can proc it. Of course, after ailment is procd, you can swap off of it to something else as well
@@Rust_BKTSo use the status specific talismans but only after the ailment procs or use them in tandem if I don’t want to be statused to begin with like madness or poison. Mottled and ailment should be used when fighting anything with high status buildup?
After patch 1.13, the sleep buildup from xbow was reduced, but the counterplay to the setup remains the same. I still would always recommend making these talisman changes if you encounter a sleep build. additionally, ailment talisman was buffed, so you no longer have to bolus after the sleep proc, and youre given an empty status meter directly after being afflicted while using ailment talisman. all in all, a very good change.
Wait, are you a Souls-Bourne content creator with an emphasis on pvp?
No, this is Patrick
@@Rust_BKT... Hello? Is this the emphasized on PVP Souls-Bourne content creator?
He is like Batman, just to be sure that everyone got it. "I'm Batman"
It IS the guy dude. It's THE guy withanemphasisonpvp.
@@pizzaknight1730 No! This is PATRICK!
Those fextra titles to those videos are so hilarious lmao Dark abyss forsaken crossbower of the damned
Also great video as always rust you rule dude
the amount of Hosts I see using howl of shabriri because some youtube video told them it was a good idea, only to immediately get one-shot by the boss, is astounding
btw, with 400 focus you can use a lulling branch for fp regen and never get slept
well, it is a really good idea, if the boss can catch the frenzy, otherwise it should only be used on ranged builds or by people that know how to dodge the boss already
The amount of hosts and summons at lvl 150-200 I see with 1400 hp and less is scaring me. No wonder so many people say the dlc is too hard and unbalanced
Honestly your comment is what made me actually look up what that skill actually did and youre damn right lol I never remember anyone ever mentioning the +30% damage taken, glad I only tried to stack buffs for a few bosses!
Frenzied burst go brr in the open world
“He starts panic rolling and then I start panic rolling to his panic rolling, I don’t wanna talk about it.” LOL bro I feel u, I’ve done the same thing before and have no clue why 😂
Crazy how many of the issues in this game all just stem from phantom hits lmao. Having to get hit out of the air to avoid sleep because Iframing it has a chance to just murder you anyways, Claws of Night headshots, and the Sword of Damnation just doing whatever the hell it wants lol.
Phantom hits are necessary in alot of ways. But its an understandable opinion
We lived with phantom hit bs for too long we think its normal
@@Rust_BKT They're only necessary because FROM refuses to give us a PING filter, and sorts the player base by JAPAN and NOT-JAPAN.
Hot take, i like phantom hits, if we didnt have phantom hits statsus builds would never be viable in pvp.
Phantom hits are not intended since npc doesn't have it. Obviously is a netcode issue
thiollier's concotion is a good counter in the arena to stuff like this, it also makes it so that you don't have to waste your time or mind against such setups!
Using rot bolts or even bleed bolts it doesn’t insta proc point blank, but sleep bolts do…? Make it make sense fromsoft
Nerf sleep bolts
Focus has always been lower than robustness or immunity
Still wtf dude
@@leonardo9259 It's part of the 125 - 150 meta. Everyone dumpstats mind and winds up with low focus then complains that madness and sleep is to strong. I know that it's because endurance and vigor both boost survivability with health and equipment load so they edge out mind as the most important non damage scaling stat but it was never intended by From that everyone would minmax by dumpstating mind.
Not saying that there is good solution other than nerfing sleep and abandoning the rock papper scissor of mind heavy builds being strong against sleep builds since mind heavy builds are weaker to basically all other optimised builds. But it is a funny situation of people refusing to level a situational defensive stat and then complaining about the mechanic it defends against being to strong.
@@simonwahlen7150levelling mind increases focus resistance?
@@simonwahlen7150 who dump stats mind?????
@@zombieboss5178a lot of people. It doesn't increase damage and you can easily get by with not that much mind
Dont forget whit 17 int you can cast Lucidity to clean the sleep build up, the animation makes most people roll because they dont know what the hell you are doing, it feels weird that Lucidity wasnt even mentioned but its still an option for some builds.
Is it faster than a bolus?
@@Rust_BKT no, but are boluses cooler? Check and mate, but come on you mentioned inmutable shield but no Lucidity that niche spell needs a niche.
@@reynauldwhistles2338 based
@@reynauldwhistles2338me using thops barrier because it looks slightly more cool than carian retaliation 🗿
I usually pull out sslash to counter bs with bs, but the tips you provided will be more consistent in the long run
You're a king for making guides like this. Haven't seen anyone run this yet, but I've been avoiding meta like the plague until the final patch comes through. Good to have the knowledge for when FS inevitably drops the final patch without nerfing status into the ground (like they should).
The block option works pretty well too.
Status goes through shields 🙂
@@felixking-borrero4906player block,
I jumped the proc 2x in a fight thanks to this video, and the kid called me “cheating trash” in a post fight direct msg
Really impressed with how you edit your content. Appreciate the dedication and craft in game and as an editor.
Guys I'm telling ya the Pumpkin Helm meta is here
One of the best PvP channels on YT 'cause you actually show how to deal with super meta setups rather than just whining about them.
I completely forgor about crucible knot, good idea tbh
The high end of souls pvp never really sat right with, not my style at the endi of the day. The amount of hard swaps that take place is just... Gross to look at
I think it all started in dark soul 3 where i hit a guy once with ulta great sword and he went from a samurai, to a kitbash tank hard switching between 4 weapons
The skill it takes in undeniable, same with unlock fighting, but my suspension if disbelief thins too much during those times, and i wish it didnt
But seeing a man sprint away in circles, not even "looking" at the fight his apart in half the time, with armor flashing between sets faster then Erza Scarlet, and manifesting more weapons mid fight that an armory wold blush... Hurts my soul
Buuuuuuut i do love seeing cheap builds getting hard counter by skillfully master over this game
“Armor flashing between sets faster than Erza Scarlet” 😂😂 that was good o7
Ive made peace with status hitting through i-ifames its a good option for high lat.
But I do think you should be able to roll cancel sleep and frenzy, just like bleed and frost.
and here I though the rapid fire crossbow was going to be a problem....fromsoft really knows how to surprise us
great video rust!
I was mentally preparing for bowgun, not shotgun 😭
5:30 The ailment talisman can boost Focus, Robustness, and Immunity at the same time. It's just that the boost for Focus only lasts 30 seconds versus the much longer boosts Immunity (120s) and Robustness (60s) get
ghost headshots are the worst thing the DLC brought about, because no matter what that's never going to be fixed
Scattershot is driving me fucking insane rn
@@Rust_BKT do you know if the ghost headshots are bad or worse with higher amounts of latency? I haven't been able to deduce if its only offender side confirmation or either side confirmation for the headshot, regardless of damage
@@lizard_bois5559 i havent been able to notice a difference if theyre more or less consistant on high lat, they just seem to always hit
Nice video. When you lift the hood on the complexities of Elden Ring combat, I find my appreciation for this game goes up dramatically. Never mind the story and art and designs, the mechanics of combat is a part of the game you don't see unless you look inside, and it's every bit as brilliant as the rest.
9:01 the guy's name is "Nameless"
Would love to see a video talking about all the other more obscure broken things in PvP.
I really like the idea of a shotgun type but I really think they should have thought ahead when balancing this thing
First time ive seen someone praise the high enduranve build. Running a build with 42 end rn plus erd trees favor +2 and it is nuts. I can string together much longer combos of crazy attacks like heavy faints running attacks, rolls and blocks without running out of stamina and it feels like a batlefield dance session
Bro, that's lit! Worth to watch, you're killing it
That is not the form I expected a Frosty cameo to take, but I guess I'll take it.
The amount of annoying spam they added in the DLC. From homing bows, to the shotgun and the claw scattershot. Let alone all the spells. I really hope they balance this stuff out a bit.
so i know that only a limited amount of bolts can hit, but could an int build use law of causality to have some safety upon getting hit by the shotgun, since it activates on a number of hits instead of damage recieved?
also, the wind parry could be useful for people who already carry a parry shield because of the aoe of messing up flight patterns
You're doing the Lord's work Rusty.
Thank you for showing us the ways to deal with new cancers, is it just me or the Damnation GreatSword's ash can't be rolled ?
For now the only way to deal with it is spacing and punish the whiff.
Cant roll in, but thats how all the grabs work as far as i recall, i need to do a full analysis of wtf is going on with that thing
@@Rust_BKT Goddamn, Thank you.
Fromsoft was high af making this DLC
There goes my Thiollier’s Hidden Needle build lol. Was fun while it lasted but I preferred using sleep pots anyway
Good vid, now with addition of shotgun crossbow even my lazy ass swaps to some sleep resist
The weapon grab never gets old
The only build fextr made that I like is his new dragon form build because it’s a glass canon so his way of thinking on stat attribution works only for that one time. Rest of his build ideas are questionable and really make new players looking for help die quicker than they should. I’m talking about pve of course
a good tip is to just equip the shield of the night and use it to defend the shots, then use the ash of war (works like a guard counter), it's working pretty well for me.
Bust_Rucket strikes again with another great video!
I don't think anyone can complain about getting slept by the Bouquet lol.
That's pretty much all that weapon has going for it.
man, I remember before the dlc drop I would abuse sleep arrows with the black bow 😂 ah good times
Yooooo I've been waiting for something like this!
Dude! your editing on this vid is too good!!
the sleep arrows and shotgun claws both need a nerf bad, having the extra skill to item swap during combat should be a fun and cute way to squeeze a few wins out but it shouldnt be mandatory to handle cancer builds like this because some scrubs just want to noob tube their way to a win
I wasn’t aware of this until last night when dueling, some dude proc'd it in one hit on me :/
Thanks Rust, and great editing! My heart sank when I found the spread crossbow🥲
The rift shield also boosts focus i think
wake up babe, rust bucket just uploaded another video! (I'm not good enough at pvp to use this but it's informative anyways lol)
2:59 bro that aow is actually busted , like literally . The hit of is so janky😭
Great sword of damnation next. It’s gs if the latency is bad.
Yuck
This games pvp is such a mess, god damn.
It's astonishing that after fifteen years of making these games Fromsoft has never had the thought, "Is there a way that absolute fucking scum can abuse this?"
Seems like a lot of work, my counter to these builds is to block them on Steam
Frfr
The jumping stuff is nice but yea block on steam is the best hard counter
Absolutely, im a big advocate of tailoring your experience, if you dont like fighting particular players, block and move on 🤘
I only get the option to block communication and report on steam. Does anyone know if it actually blocks you from playing with them again?
@@Elijah557 yea it blocks from playing
Thanks so much! Great video!
would love a shamshir in-depth guide next
I have alot of the footage for it already compiled and a draft written up, but i have some other things i need to talk about before i get around to finishing that one. But sham deserves a video, absolutely
Thanks rust been looking for a way to deal with this
so thankful they didnt add another lightning arrow
Really excellent video, thank you so much
I'm actually stuck on inventory management. TY for the info.
As always great info, ggz❤
I found out recently that the new helmets that “lowers your focus” actually doesn’t. It just has a base 0 focus which is a classic Miyazaki way of giving players false information
Insane, which one? I havent noticed it
@@Rust_BKT The Divine Beast Head. I haven’t check the other ones tho but it might be the same case
@@Rust_BKT well I was specifically told by this by jeenine when I told he should had took off the helmet fighting against a guy spamming sleep arrows. Wiki doesn’t state that it lowers focus too besides the base 0 focus
The big lion head lowers focus. The smaller lion head(and maybe bird head but haven't gotten it yet) lowers it too but a lot smaller. I get higher focus when I use the horned headgears(+5 str/dex) vs the lion heads even though all of them lists 0 focus.
Bro I was just about to make a spread crossbow shotgun juggernaut build.
I need to find a way to counter messmers spear
Dodge, strafe, dodge, and get hit when you attempt to punish, gg
I kept telling people there’s so many counters to it, and keeping over 300 focus helps alot and even minus all the talisman counters jump attacks are so good vs spreadbow if it got nerfed it would feel so useless vs counter material. I’ve honestly loved shutting down swift slash users by sleeping them when they dash in 😂
The problem isnt even so much the sleep itself but rather the garunteed damage it gets from forcing you to jump the proc or ability to punish a bolus. Whether youre prepared or not just determines how much damage youre forced to take. But atleast with this youll have a fighting chance 🤘
Ever plan on making an updated tailsman guide for SOTE?
@@gawoyb9726 maybe, its not super high on my priority list rn
Most of the time I just spitefully accept I'm probably dying if they're spamming the spread crossbow, it's that ridiculous... especially for sleep status
poise viable elden ring builds be like 3:48
🖤
Removing stat procs on ghost hits would fix all of the issues with stat procs. Why am i getting punished for dodging?
Counter-proposal, why wouldnt the opponent be rewarded for landing a confirmed hit on their side of the connection
@Rust_BKT if I'm in s, then there shouldn't be a stat proc on either end. If I actually get hit, then it makes sense to suffer stat procs, but all the ghost hits do is promote spam until (insert stat proc) happens for free damage.
@@_You_Are_Not_Him_ what you seem to not be accounting for is that you *didnt* roll in time. You rolled late, causing the phantom hit. On the opponents screen, you werent in s when their hit landed. You want to punish players for playing well, and reward others who fail to adjust to the latency? You want to absolutely kill status builds that already have a hard enough time against players that adapt to the setup? It sounds to me you just want to avoid putting in effort and just take easy fights.
Yo rust. New bow cancer I found. Dont know if other people have yet. Bone bow ash is spammable at max range with overlapping backstep s if you mash backstep while in bow stance. I've tested a few games with it and it's nasty.
Yea i showed it in my vid on backsteps. Good way to avoid getting chainsawed, even on good lat
Got you. I must've missed the upload. Ill go give it a look. I just found that experimenting with crucible feather. Knowing you, you'll have all tge frame data for meXD@@Rust_BKT
Now I see people using some bow that gives the arrows tracking, so they curve mid air to hit you??
@@Muhammad-re4wk yep, bone bow. It has horrible tracking at close range, but its pretty much guaranteed to hit from ranged
I've notice that for both the shotgun crossbow and ansbach bow is a good strategy to run and jump sideways. Not sure about the bone bow tho...
Bone bow has shit tracking up close, but in a gank i have no idea how you’d deal with it. 😩
Thanks for your services your videos are great ❤😊
Rust can u showcase the pumpkin head to stop the headshot worries for ppl too? I dont swap cause its ugly af usuauy, but w the talons maybe needed
It biiiig heavy
Yea jump it 💜 lmao i just saw one and then the video popped up 😂
Why is the shamsir good? I never used it
do you/jeenine/steelovsky/chasethebro/space ranger/yos/etc/etc/etc use camera auto rotation off or on?
Cool, but what do I do if they are a bow build with light rolling? Fought someone like that yesterday and all they did was run to the other side of the arena
Strafe. Patas.
@@Rust_BKT Ok
I appreciate that you’re in the arena and offering counter-play solutions to problems, instead of endlessly invading and crying for nerfs every time you get ganked by PVEers.
I found a better solution for the arena. Use Thioller's concontion when you see someone pull up a crosbow, assuming they have sleep bolts. To be honest, even those people who start the fight without sleep bolts, swich to them as soon as they start losing. Use the item, get out, and just ignore those sh*t eaters.
Idk, im never afraid to lose, and always welcome the opportunity to have a challenge. Nothing to lose and everything to gain. Why just give up?
@@Rust_BKT so I can go into the next match and actually play the game :D
This weapon looks like the definition of overtuned.
When you need an armor swap, talisman swap, jump tech, and bolus to fight a single off hand weapon something needs to change.
Would capping the amount of status applied in pvp be a fair nerf? Or would reducing the status per bolt be better so you need well placed point blank shots to instant sleep?
Hey stop right there mr fromsoftware balance team guy that might read this! if you are going to fix smt about this crossbow FOCUS (heheh) on fixing the sleep bolts problem dont gut the whole weapon because one ammo type is super strong.
@@reynauldwhistles2338 that's very fair. I was just thinking it'd be wierd to nerf one specific status effect. Hmmmm. Maybe worthwhile nerfing sleep bone bolts themselves for less sleep sp it's less effective overall? Machine crossbow and pulley can still use then fairly well in that case maybe?
They already added a cooldown on sleep/madness proc, maybe extend it(30s seconds or something). And lower the build up.
Very smart, good video
Simply use Thioller’s concoction before they can kill you.
Why is your footage so crusty!
@@captaincorundum9788 laptop gaming 🤘😭
Builds don't need to be adaptable when you have enough Larval-Tears.
Remember that Fextra Focuses on PvE and treats it as if you were a blind Player. Their Build vids are ideal when you don't want to get Spoilt.
“Builds dont need to be adaptable wehn you have enough larval tears”…. Well that might be true if you could respec in the middle of an invasion, but you cant. You can have properly distributed stats to change your kit though. But that doesnt require larval tears, just good planning.
And im aware of fextra’s focus, but theyre a meme. They are notorious for misinformation and instead of teaching players how to buildcraft, they throw together half baked “builds” because its an easy market to exploit, and as a business, its their right to do so. No hate, but it helps to sell the point of what the topic of discussion was about
TY again for the great content. Do you have a Discord Server?
This is why I wait a few months for FROM to nerf things into the ground and trust me they WILL nerf that crossbow
Now if they could finally fix the chainsaw glitch
you think anyone who pvps uses fextras builds? they’re primarily for pve
They fall more under the cateogry of “cosplay” builds than anything else, and its their perogative to do so. “Builds” are a very exploitsble market and as a business, its their right to take advantage of it, but that doenst mean that what they produce has any substance. The call out was to emphasize a point, not just bad mouth their content.
can you do a video about countering blind spot?
It would be a rather boring video, since id be just avoiding doing literally anything for the entire match
@@Rust_BKT lol yeah I figured thats the play against blind spot
Don’t forget the duped sleep bolouses 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
how about from not allow sleep arrows and sleep grease to restore at the end of arena match and how about they start punishing people who cheat in max amounts of them.
well for one, they arent ever going to punish duping, muling, or CEing goods into the game. and i encourage you to use these tools to your advantage, as it provides no actual ingame advantage other than saving time on collecting resources. and aint no one go the time of day to spend that many hours farming. im happy that they allow restoration of goods because this also helps the casual dad that has no knowledge about these resources, and lets them just play the game without having to worry about the insane farming loops of this horribly designed crafting system. Rather, git gud, outplay, and pray they tone down the sleep buildup to a more manageable level
@@Rust_BKT While I see where youre coming from. The way I see it is that sleep is so strong because of the limited amount of ways to proc it you get throughout the game. To me it looks like they balanced it around a player only having a few ways to proc it throughout an entire playthrough. I 100% agree though about the crafting system, it exists for nothing but tedium.
easiest counter for this is blocking them on steam, works a treat.
I thought punpkin head also had headshot resistance? Is it not worth over sleep gear? If i have to have solitutde around (doesnt look bad just kind of boring) then i might have pumpkin over headshot talis
Pumpkin helm has good sleep resist too so it works, but its heavy as hell, hard to fit on an optimized build
Lol, I've been both aiming for headshots and have been afraid of them. Glad to hear I wasn't totally insane to do so. In my defense I don't use sleep. Is the pumpkin head that terrible?
Pumpkin head is very very heavy, you can make it work but youll be restricted elsewhere.
When great Katana handbook?
How do you move your character so erratically like that? Whenever someone blends their animations with that erratic movement I just panic. How tf to do it?
@@somerandom3048 just hold sprint
the amount of times i get invaded by sleep shotty is absurd .. even at rl 30 , super cheap
that sounds like ass
Bro Im sorry but I cant hang with the stuff in meta level anymore. Its absolutely the most toxic thing Ive ever seen.
Its just not fun. Ive moved to lower level invasions, still got problems but at least I dont want to pull my hair out when Im done playing.
Great video Rust. You say to use the mottled necklace so is there a point to keeping the dedicated stat talismans like immunizing in the inventory? It’s such a spectacle seeing these usually bad players get hard carried by the broken stuff. Use a real setup and they die instantly
Yea theres nothing wrong with using one of the resistance specific ones, and even stack it with the mottled if you wanted to. I found this to be a good opportunity to talk about the use case of ailment talisman, so i opted for that in this video as opposed to talking about stacking the 2 base resist ones, but they both serve a purpose. Ailment is just alot stronger if you can proc it. Of course, after ailment is procd, you can swap off of it to something else as well
@@Rust_BKTSo use the status specific talismans but only after the ailment procs or use them in tandem if I don’t want to be statused to begin with like madness or poison. Mottled and ailment should be used when fighting anything with high status buildup?
@@glguin9624 yep, fhats right
@@Rust_BKT ty sir
If I only added one talisman or item. Which one is best?
Hard to say. If you have the resistance to tank 1 shot, then headshot tali. Otherwise ailment. But id always recommend all 3
Defensive talismans, such blasphemy!
(Mottled +2, my beloved)