hey rust, this is probably not the right place to ask but I’ll do it since you often respond to comments: I’ve seen your duel video with Steelovsky (the chainsaw one) I guess you’re using custom arena mod along with seamless coop. In that video I don’t think that was the case but I often see people using some sort of “auto-revive” which would be really handy when I’m dueling with my buddies (in order to bypass loading the game and going to grace eveytime), do you know anything about that, or that kind of mod? Or do I have to boot cheat engine to do that kind of thing? I’m asking you because you usually know about this stuff. ps: I really like your videos, can’t donate or anything but sent you steam points recently lol, I know it means nothing but just wanted to show some sort of gratitude.
Yea its just a cheat engine thing. My friend Clayamore is working on a mod that includes an auto revive function as well though, so when that gets released, ill be making a video to help promote it
Such a great guide! I always wonder whether Spear Talisman is worth it on elemental builds though. Tested it on my magic Zweihander against a Leyndell Knight... - regular CR1 = 374 dmg - counter hit = 419 dmg (12% increase) - spear tali hit = 449 dmg (20% increase) This was a +20 magic Zweihander. Do with this what you will, lol.
it doesn't have to do something with the video... well, kinda. for me, in invasions, a must to have equiped talisman is the "green turltle", when i'm getting outnumbered, i barely have time to check my stamina bar, and when i get so agressive, most of the time i got out of stamina and get punished because of that or i can't estus punish/finishing off my opponets. and since both glitches for stamina regen got patched (talisman swap and crouch) has made my life as an invader harder. anyway, my question is, do you think is it worth the slot in invasions?, and also which one of bot stamina talismans is better using?, because i have seen other pvp youtubers like chasethebro using the "Viridian Amber Medallion", because i also think that the stamina regen of the turtle is still low, and there's not +2 version of it.
Viridian+2 can let you get one extra attack in if you have enough endurance to make it worth using, but if youre getting that tight on stamina then youre probably overextending and should manage your stamina more conservatively in general. Turtle helps you recover it faster which is better for when youre being chased, chasing, but it helps you have less downtime when youre trying to re engage. Id argue that green turtle is always better. For invasions youre mostly going to be stuck on your 90% setup, so you can have a swap for it for one of your lesser damage boosting talis. I keep mine as a swap from bull goats, since i usually just use it if im trying to close or create distance.
Great video, as always! A couple things that may or may not be relevant to the subject: 1. Your third talisman slot may potentially be the furthest away from you when you just switch just 1 or 2 talismans so you might wanna have this as your stationary slot. It is just 1 extra button press but it is something to take into consideration. 2. I don't like how high damage is in ER, so I prefer to use the defence talis instead of stacking damage ones. They are pretty underrated imo. 3. For people that want a single page inventory they can try to have 25 of blue/red-feather tali at the bottom and top for the quick trigger swap no matter what they were using before. This is what I'm using rn but probably gonna switch to the multiple page one you showed here since I like how much more freedom it gives.
1: thats a good point, i find it can get a little haphazard if i try to switch between L and R for talismans and i can get lost pretty quick, but skill issue tbh. Youre completely right. 2. I agree that the def talis are very strong, definately underrated. 5% defense goes alot further than people may think. 3. The page method is def a good option too for just doing feathers. All very good suggestions!
Man you are honestly one of the best content creators out there - your videos are always so informative and I always share them to people looking to get more serious about pvp
I'm always like- this time i will try swap at least ritual shield and then after killing other player i'm like "oh i forgot to swap this talisman" and then cycle repeat
Another from Banger from the Legend himself ! On a side note... I had an idea for a video/format: I feel like there are a lot of channels that talk about unique builds or new combos and try to find the next cool thing, but there is not that much content around mastering a certain weapon. Like In depth analysis about all match ups with one specific weapon and how to approach them in terms of playstyle and Strategy. Hts vs. Gugs, Hts vs. psss, hts vs. Cleanrot... talking about who has match up and how you should you engage. Maybe you could even bring other people (pvp pros/really good payers) onto the channel as well to talk about their main weapon and how they approach different match ups. Thanks again for the amazing content Rust 🙌🏻
Keeping your inventory organized and having it sorted by "order of acquisition" is super helpful. For example, I always keep the Crimson Seed Talisman directly beneath my main talismans so I can quickly swap to it and get a bigger heal from my flask, etc.
actually i'd rather use blessed dew in the 90% setup than 20%. Feathers are so strong I wouldn't want to accidently exit the range and lose the buffs. What are you supposed to run on halX besides spear btw?
i can definately agree that blessed dew has some benefit at 90% range, preferential diff i guess. but yea, you need to be careful at the under 20 range. you can reapply your HP tali to boost your max hp and keep yourself sub 20 if you get close to creaping over it, or just use bloody slash to pull your hp down a little and keep you in feather range. on hal/dagger prob run alex if youre running something lorettas, ice spear, or a mist. Otherwise, defensive tali would prob do the best for it. But honestly, id probably go status and run kindred.
I figured out almost all of this on my own the last year, but i did NOT know rot exultation increased ALL damage once procced, that is actually insane!
Nice and concise, great video. One note: I found it best to learn mid-fight talisman swapping one talisman at a time. Something like ritual shield -> damage talisman, while everyone else stays static. Then add a second swap, third swap etc after the first one is second nature.
One thing about radagon's icon is that most of spells don't really benefit that much from it because casting speed speedup on them is so minimal that it won't really make much difference so I pretty much never use it on my hybrids
Yea, it just works on things like neutral slicer, but it doesnt apply to running or rolling variants of the attack. Thats why i say its really up to you, but it can make a difference in your success with wiff punishes
I just want to say thanks for this. I’m new to invading and I took the time to learn this stuff and it’s just a complete game changer. Now I feel super human and ganks are much more manageable
Damn I don't know if does it count as cheating but, assigning macros to weapons swap, talisman swaps and even armor swap for healing is just too handy. I'm just learning about the really tricky inputs to cancel animations and do that weird stuff anr I see it veing possible, not as fluid and smooth like on a controller because you can overwrite or cancel the inputs if you're not experienced. But damn I can see the good old DSII days where you can do crazy stuff with the cancel animations and hitting true combos that look like hacking.
@@Resili-qi7jx a macro would be overkill, swaps are easy enough, and its a skill youll want to learn anyway, as your talisman priority would change depending on the loadout and situation. And yes, macros are considered cheating
3:09 when you talk about the order of the talismans, on *mouse & keyboard* it's actually easier to run Great Jar's Arsenal + Bullgoat's on your first and second slots and then have your third and fourth slots as your switching slots, since your mouse curser always comes in from the centre of the screen! luv you rust (:
Thank you for the video. There's one thing I always wanted to know about hardswaps in general: are there any examples of them being doable on mouse and keyboard? I wanted to learn them, but I never got used to a controller, so I was curious if it was doable of I had to start learning the use of a controller.
I never learned M&K, but they definately are, alot of my friends play M&K and they can do swaps insanely fast. I think for them, its more a matter of memorizing cursor positions. I also dont know what key is used to tab between each tali. Sorry im not of more help here
@@Rust_BKT That has already been very helpful, thanks! Even just knowing it's possible is of great help, even if I might still learn controller because some maneuvers seem a bit easier.
@@leonardorossi998 i think by default you switch left & right tabs/slots with Z and X, but i think you can change it and you could also assign it to a gamer mouse too if you have one. And it helps to have the stuff you use most frequently on the right hand side since your curser will always come in from the centre of your screen.
@@Chicanery_Artifice Thank you! Yeah, that's what I figured, things were more accessible if I could just access them from the right hand side. And yes, I am using a mouse with a lot of buttons. I have already bound the menu and select button, so I might add more menu navigation. For now though, I think i will have to organize the inventory to keep everything I need fast on the right side
Very nice vid for swapping talismans. For cooping as a phantom phantom i have in my first slots takers cameo, bullgoat in case of invasions, the poison/rot resist talisman and some others just to have the first two rows filled.
After watching Amir.'s video on casting speed, Radagon's icon is not as useful for pvp Radagon's icon works best on spells that already have a long cast time. And spells wil long cast times are generally not as viable in pvp. At the same time, quick spells like slicer and catch fire that can cast while running or jumping already cancel the initial cast animation-so Radagon's icon offers some faster spells no benefit at all. So, if youre using catch fire, bestial sling, carian slicer for pvp, which are already some of the best pvp spells, then you dont need Radagon's icon regardless of your dex.
You need it to ensure true combos, which otherwise arent true if you dont have sufficient casting speed. For example, halberd RR1 into L1 slicer is true at max cast speed, and not true at min.
thats correct, and people use it, but its definitely less well known. generally, invaders tend to be a little on the bloodthirsty side, and dont try to use the map to their advantage as much as they could.
This is maybe a dumb question, but *how* do you organize talismans? Is this just something console players (I’m on Xbox) lose out on? The only obvious organization methods I can see are to sort by type, acquisition order, or weight (ascending or descending). How to make a custom tile with specific talismans sitting in specific slots in the inventory?
You can press r3 (L3? I dont remember rn) and select to sort by acquired. Then dump them all into storage and pull them out in your preferred organization
@@Rust_BKT oh... so I assumed "acquired" meant the order we picked them up, but it means the order we take them out of storage. LOL, thanks, I will try that.
Godskin swaddling cloth seems like a waste of a talisman slot. You barely get 90 HP for every proc and you won't be getting a lot of those since it has to be successive. Might as well use blessed dew at that point. Same with the Dragoncrest greatshield talisman. These ones are heavily nerfed for PvP and get even worse the heavier your armor is. You'll be getting like a 2-3% physical absorption increase which is nothing, might as well get more Erdtree's favor or Crimson amber.
I think you might misunderstand that section of the video. The whole point is to star your fight with crimston + erd, then swap them off to maintain the ritual buffs, and swap again once you are at an unrecoverable health threshhold. But dont underestimate the value of a 4% def buff or hp regen, still, if you prefer a different option, feel free to go for something else.
@@Rust_BKT Well Erdtree should always stay on because even if you lose health it still gives equip load and stamina. Crimson into blessed dew is a pretty good one though.
if you're running spear, it will do more for you on a pure physical infusion. Elemental still works but youre getting like 40% of the bonus, due to armor calculations and defense % reductions. Its still good if you dont have a better option, but like, on cipher pata for example, spear talisman does absolutely nothing.
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Well organized vid Rust. Idk why I never thought to equip exultations myself when I see opponents using poison/bleed builds 🤔 excellent idea!
Thx bro, glad it was helpful 😁
Ok fine, I'll change my swap grid
The drama continues!
How do you customize your talisman grid slots like that?
hey rust, this is probably not the right place to ask but I’ll do it since you often respond to comments: I’ve seen your duel video with Steelovsky (the chainsaw one) I guess you’re using custom arena mod along with seamless coop. In that video I don’t think that was the case but I often see people using some sort of “auto-revive” which would be really handy when I’m dueling with my buddies (in order to bypass loading the game and going to grace eveytime), do you know anything about that, or that kind of mod? Or do I have to boot cheat engine to do that kind of thing? I’m asking you because you usually know about this stuff.
ps: I really like your videos, can’t donate or anything but sent you steam points recently lol, I know it means nothing but just wanted to show some sort of gratitude.
Yea its just a cheat engine thing. My friend Clayamore is working on a mod that includes an auto revive function as well though, so when that gets released, ill be making a video to help promote it
Aw shit i didnt see the ps before, thanks dude i appreciate it lol
Such a great guide!
I always wonder whether Spear Talisman is worth it on elemental builds though.
Tested it on my magic Zweihander against a Leyndell Knight...
- regular CR1 = 374 dmg
- counter hit = 419 dmg (12% increase)
- spear tali hit = 449 dmg (20% increase)
This was a +20 magic Zweihander.
Do with this what you will, lol.
it doesn't have to do something with the video... well, kinda.
for me, in invasions, a must to have equiped talisman is the "green turltle", when i'm getting outnumbered, i barely have time to check my stamina bar, and when i get so agressive, most of the time i got out of stamina and get punished because of that or i can't estus punish/finishing off my opponets. and since both glitches for stamina regen got patched (talisman swap and crouch) has made my life as an invader harder.
anyway, my question is, do you think is it worth the slot in invasions?, and also which one of bot stamina talismans is better using?, because i have seen other pvp youtubers like chasethebro using the "Viridian Amber Medallion", because i also think that the stamina regen of the turtle is still low, and there's not +2 version of it.
Viridian+2 can let you get one extra attack in if you have enough endurance to make it worth using, but if youre getting that tight on stamina then youre probably overextending and should manage your stamina more conservatively in general. Turtle helps you recover it faster which is better for when youre being chased, chasing, but it helps you have less downtime when youre trying to re engage. Id argue that green turtle is always better. For invasions youre mostly going to be stuck on your 90% setup, so you can have a swap for it for one of your lesser damage boosting talis. I keep mine as a swap from bull goats, since i usually just use it if im trying to close or create distance.
Awesome stuff as always, you’re really an asset to the community! (Also amazing outro)
Great video, as always! A couple things that may or may not be relevant to the subject:
1. Your third talisman slot may potentially be the furthest away from you when you just switch just 1 or 2 talismans so you might wanna have this as your stationary slot. It is just 1 extra button press but it is something to take into consideration.
2. I don't like how high damage is in ER, so I prefer to use the defence talis instead of stacking damage ones. They are pretty underrated imo.
3. For people that want a single page inventory they can try to have 25 of blue/red-feather tali at the bottom and top for the quick trigger swap no matter what they were using before.
This is what I'm using rn but probably gonna switch to the multiple page one you showed here since I like how much more freedom it gives.
1: thats a good point, i find it can get a little haphazard if i try to switch between L and R for talismans and i can get lost pretty quick, but skill issue tbh. Youre completely right.
2. I agree that the def talis are very strong, definately underrated. 5% defense goes alot further than people may think.
3. The page method is def a good option too for just doing feathers. All very good suggestions!
Man you are honestly one of the best content creators out there - your videos are always so informative and I always share them to people looking to get more serious about pvp
Yo thanks bro, that means alot
I'm always like- this time i will try swap at least ritual shield and then after killing other player i'm like "oh i forgot to swap this talisman" and then cycle repeat
Same lmao
Another from Banger from the Legend himself !
On a side note... I had an idea for a video/format:
I feel like there are a lot of channels that talk about unique builds or new combos and try to find the next cool thing, but there is not that much content around mastering a certain weapon.
Like In depth analysis about all match ups with one specific weapon and how to approach them in terms of playstyle and Strategy.
Hts vs. Gugs, Hts vs. psss, hts vs. Cleanrot...
talking about who has match up and how you should you engage.
Maybe you could even bring other people (pvp pros/really good payers) onto the channel as well to talk about their main weapon and how they approach different match ups.
Thanks again for the amazing content Rust 🙌🏻
I really like the suggestion. Its always tricky because everone has personal biases, but could be fun to look into anyway. Thanks for the idea!
Keeping your inventory organized and having it sorted by "order of acquisition" is super helpful. For example, I always keep the Crimson Seed Talisman directly beneath my main talismans so I can quickly swap to it and get a bigger heal from my flask, etc.
actually i'd rather use blessed dew in the 90% setup than 20%. Feathers are so strong I wouldn't want to accidently exit the range and lose the buffs. What are you supposed to run on halX besides spear btw?
i can definately agree that blessed dew has some benefit at 90% range, preferential diff i guess. but yea, you need to be careful at the under 20 range. you can reapply your HP tali to boost your max hp and keep yourself sub 20 if you get close to creaping over it, or just use bloody slash to pull your hp down a little and keep you in feather range. on hal/dagger prob run alex if youre running something lorettas, ice spear, or a mist. Otherwise, defensive tali would prob do the best for it. But honestly, id probably go status and run kindred.
I figured out almost all of this on my own the last year, but i did NOT know rot exultation increased ALL damage once procced, that is actually insane!
Its dummy op busted, i was really surprised it wasnt nerfed alongside lord of bloods. I blame reddit.
Nice and concise, great video. One note: I found it best to learn mid-fight talisman swapping one talisman at a time. Something like ritual shield -> damage talisman, while everyone else stays static. Then add a second swap, third swap etc after the first one is second nature.
Thats a very good tip, help ease the learning curve of swapping
Yes this is how I began swapping Crimson to Blessed Dew.
Your swap grid advice is unironically extremely helpful. gotta fix my grid
Claw talisman and the like are halved by 50% in pvp I think. Same with any defensive talismans. Wasted slots if you use them
Hello the damn best video for talisman and PVP and far too few likes
One thing about radagon's icon is that most of spells don't really benefit that much from it because casting speed speedup on them is so minimal that it won't really make much difference so I pretty much never use it on my hybrids
Yea, it just works on things like neutral slicer, but it doesnt apply to running or rolling variants of the attack. Thats why i say its really up to you, but it can make a difference in your success with wiff punishes
Been binge watching your video recently and hell, i can tell you love video editing! Also the last match connection, without any music, is surreal
I just want to say thanks for this. I’m new to invading and I took the time to learn this stuff and it’s just a complete game changer. Now I feel super human and ganks are much more manageable
Bad video as always, keep it up
the moment i would open my menu i would have died twice
I always run bullgoat tbh, nobody wants to get flame striked chain stunned or stomp reaction traded
Yea i usually run the 2 taki swap for that reason as well. 1 brain cell for each tali slot.
But in 1.10 those can be chained even running max poise correct?
@Aaron6791ae yeah and it's really dumb, now you either run 88 or 109
Don’t forget if you can hold the Twinbird kite shield for boosts when low!
Man I hate StrikerHutassa
Great video Rust, keep doing your thing brother!
Another good video. Ill have to get better at talisman swapping.
Where have you been all my elden ring career .. SUBBED. 🎉
Damn I don't know if does it count as cheating but, assigning macros to weapons swap, talisman swaps and even armor swap for healing is just too handy.
I'm just learning about the really tricky inputs to cancel animations and do that weird stuff anr I see it veing possible, not as fluid and smooth like on a controller because you can overwrite or cancel the inputs if you're not experienced. But damn I can see the good old DSII days where you can do crazy stuff with the cancel animations and hitting true combos that look like hacking.
@@Resili-qi7jx a macro would be overkill, swaps are easy enough, and its a skill youll want to learn anyway, as your talisman priority would change depending on the loadout and situation. And yes, macros are considered cheating
3:09 when you talk about the order of the talismans, on *mouse & keyboard* it's actually easier to run Great Jar's Arsenal + Bullgoat's on your first and second slots and then have your third and fourth slots as your switching slots, since your mouse curser always comes in from the centre of the screen!
luv you rust (:
Yea i definately was speaking just from a controller perspective exclusively, i should have added a section for people running MKB
this is great high-effort content
Excellent video and its not 40+ minutes long haha. Thank you Rust
Lmao, condensing this video was quite the task, let me tell you
How about the new all crucibles talisman?
Thank you for the video.
There's one thing I always wanted to know about hardswaps in general: are there any examples of them being doable on mouse and keyboard? I wanted to learn them, but I never got used to a controller, so I was curious if it was doable of I had to start learning the use of a controller.
I never learned M&K, but they definately are, alot of my friends play M&K and they can do swaps insanely fast. I think for them, its more a matter of memorizing cursor positions. I also dont know what key is used to tab between each tali. Sorry im not of more help here
@@Rust_BKT That has already been very helpful, thanks! Even just knowing it's possible is of great help, even if I might still learn controller because some maneuvers seem a bit easier.
@@leonardorossi998 i think by default you switch left & right tabs/slots with Z and X, but i think you can change it and you could also assign it to a gamer mouse too if you have one. And it helps to have the stuff you use most frequently on the right hand side since your curser will always come in from the centre of your screen.
@@Chicanery_Artifice Thank you! Yeah, that's what I figured, things were more accessible if I could just access them from the right hand side. And yes, I am using a mouse with a lot of buttons. I have already bound the menu and select button, so I might add more menu navigation. For now though, I think i will have to organize the inventory to keep everything I need fast on the right side
How do u manege to make yours swap talismans close to eche other on the menu?
Mines are all random no metter what organization option i chose
empty them out of your inventory into your stash, then place them back in, in order
very good content as always!
just usea macro with hardswaps and random timers in between. noone can expect nir prove it
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Do you really think I would ruin my drip with a mushroom crown?
@@Saint17k your drip sucks anyway 🤷
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Absolutely fantastic video for me, as an intermediate player trying to enjoy this game a little more. Thank you!
Very nice vid for swapping talismans. For cooping as a phantom phantom i have in my first slots takers cameo, bullgoat in case of invasions, the poison/rot resist talisman and some others just to have the first two rows filled.
Much appreciated, pointers on a lot of useful talisman and tips to organize and details in one concise vid
Is lions claw consider a jump attack?
Nope, only r1s and r2s
After watching Amir.'s video on casting speed, Radagon's icon is not as useful for pvp
Radagon's icon works best on spells that already have a long cast time. And spells wil long cast times are generally not as viable in pvp.
At the same time, quick spells like slicer and catch fire that can cast while running or jumping already cancel the initial cast animation-so Radagon's icon offers some faster spells no benefit at all.
So, if youre using catch fire, bestial sling, carian slicer for pvp, which are already some of the best pvp spells, then you dont need Radagon's icon regardless of your dex.
You need it to ensure true combos, which otherwise arent true if you dont have sufficient casting speed. For example, halberd RR1 into L1 slicer is true at max cast speed, and not true at min.
whatever lets me look my best. look good, feel good. feel good, do good.
Wait so takers cameo restores invaders hp when host is killing mobs ?:O thats free right there why nobody is using that?
thats correct, and people use it, but its definitely less well known. generally, invaders tend to be a little on the bloodthirsty side, and dont try to use the map to their advantage as much as they could.
Why rotten wing over Milicent's?
This is maybe a dumb question, but *how* do you organize talismans? Is this just something console players (I’m on Xbox) lose out on? The only obvious organization methods I can see are to sort by type, acquisition order, or weight (ascending or descending). How to make a custom tile with specific talismans sitting in specific slots in the inventory?
You can press r3 (L3? I dont remember rn) and select to sort by acquired. Then dump them all into storage and pull them out in your preferred organization
@@Rust_BKT oh... so I assumed "acquired" meant the order we picked them up, but it means the order we take them out of storage. LOL, thanks, I will try that.
Yeah, I tried this and it is amazing. I don’t know how I lived life in Elden Ring before, LOL. Thanks!
Godskin swaddling cloth seems like a waste of a talisman slot. You barely get 90 HP for every proc and you won't be getting a lot of those since it has to be successive. Might as well use blessed dew at that point.
Same with the Dragoncrest greatshield talisman. These ones are heavily nerfed for PvP and get even worse the heavier your armor is. You'll be getting like a 2-3% physical absorption increase which is nothing, might as well get more Erdtree's favor or Crimson amber.
I think you might misunderstand that section of the video. The whole point is to star your fight with crimston + erd, then swap them off to maintain the ritual buffs, and swap again once you are at an unrecoverable health threshhold. But dont underestimate the value of a 4% def buff or hp regen, still, if you prefer a different option, feel free to go for something else.
@@Rust_BKT Well Erdtree should always stay on because even if you lose health it still gives equip load and stamina. Crimson into blessed dew is a pretty good one though.
GGS
Great vid, going into my ER tech playlist🤌
Are we talking purely phys builds? Or is spear talisman worth running on partial elemental damage weapons too?
if you're running spear, it will do more for you on a pure physical infusion. Elemental still works but youre getting like 40% of the bonus, due to armor calculations and defense % reductions. Its still good if you dont have a better option, but like, on cipher pata for example, spear talisman does absolutely nothing.