OMG 😂 let me explain myself: Okay so essentially everything from parts 6-11 were me trying (and failing) to figure out “wtf is up with the cat” lol. It was a massive exercise in throwing ideas out there until I got something solid… But I don’t regret it, because it led to the whole “cat IS the other world” idea that is more coherent. THAT was my final conclusion. You can see the peak of my absurdity riiiiiiight before that, when I “see the cat in the shadow” before finally snapping back 😂It was wild, the “crazy parts” were all uploaded in a 5 month span of me bending in on myself & exposing myself & making theories on my own theories to find the light again 🤣 Most of the commenters knew what was going on, it was a journey they were apart of, the compilation sadly loses that element. So you’re right, the 2-cat-son-grandpa stuff is nuts, but surprisingly it served its purpose (it walked so my solid stuff could run). You're right, I was absolutely the originator here, and as you pointed out, I tried to reign back some of the others. It really bugged me, especially the genuine seriousness some had. ffs now TikTok has gotten ahold of it, and I’ve given up. I certainly don’t believe it all was “intended” by the makers, I try to make that clear later on, obviously only solid stuff should be considered there. It's not just Coraline tho, a chunk of my channel consists of me diving into the furthest corners of a lore and saying “this COULD be here”, then having fun with creating & filling plot holes, but usually the creators have no intentions. Well *sometimes* they do, but a lot of my theories are just me examining possibilities; sometimes it goes crazy far… My Coraline vids are actually my LEAST unhinged (aside from my concrete show predictions & stuff). I also want to highlight I made all of this when I was 14 years old. I thought it was cool AF, and most people seem to see through the nonsense into anything valuable (as they should). Also yes, I’m insane.
@SmileAway21you have no idea how many dinners I also had… basically these coraline videos were my teenage years that is why I hold some love to them even if they are just nonsense 🤣🤣
You could also say "yeah my bad, I made up a bunch of stuff with no supporting evidence, research, or taking the original book into account, sorry about that!"
@@TheTheorizer No thank you. I've seen all I need to see. It's very clear that you did not, or if you did, you ignored the very clear intentions of the author and details straight out of the book. As CZ points out multiple times, I could say "what if" to everything too since there's literally no evidence for the things you mention. What if it's the multiple cats controlling me to reply to your comment right now??? OOOooo spooky theory, come watch 18 more videos of mine!
I love how you could have just taken this opportunity to say it was all a joke, but you decided to double down. A true Coraline Theorist to the end lmao 🥲 It was fun to watch though, satire or not! Glad there's no hard feelings haha 🤘
It all started with The Theorizer, he realized how unrealistic his theories were about halfway through and it became his whole style to OVER THEORIZE about things. It’s brilliant.
I love him so much, the unhinged ideas that are tied together by other unhinged ideas make his videos great for background sound while playing games. It's wild having a general idea of what he's talking about and being disrupted by an "epiphany" lmao
"in the movie we rarely get to see Coraline REALLY sleep" - ah, yes, as opposed to most movies that will frequently have an 8-hour scene of a character sleeping,
So many people somehow forget that movies are crafted and scripted. She’s theorizing about this movie like Coraline is living a real life, which could be a fun exercise, but doesn’t apply when you’re *genuinely theorizing about a movie with a finite world and a known plot.
A Random Critique doesn't remember Neil Gaiman wrote why the Cat doesn't have a name in the book. Cats don't need names because they already know who they are.
ngl the fact you got The Theorizer on here is hilarious, dude has made MULTIPLE Mort from Madigascar theories each more unhinged than the last. hes great
Pick Me girl energy. She might be really cool but the fishing for compliments is bad. It’s bad for men and for women. Just admit you worked hard to be beautiful and put your best foot forward. It’s fine.
As someone with insomnia. If you insomnia isn’t crazy bad, you will get tired without days of sleep. The scene where Coraline can’t sleep, is because of the terrifying situation she’s in. If you were kidnapped and your parents were taken, would you just sleep the second your head hits the pillow.
i have insomnia as a symptom of mania coming from my bipolar disorder so i can second that you DO feel at least physically tired without days of sleep, like you can tell your body hasn’t gotten rest in a way that’s hard to explain.
@@robinkholmes7127 Why? You aren't a writer, are you? People don't write, so we people come to the same conclusions as us. They write to give you a world to explore and find your own way through them. If making theories is lame or cringe, the only thing worse is making a "nu-uh" video saying your theory is wrong because mine is right. That's trying to force people to imagine the same way as you, instead of forming their own adventure from the materials. Writers don't laugh at people's theories, they are happy their work touched them enough that they created theories.
@@nerdjournalI’m a writer. I’m laughing at these people. Not for having “a different imagination”; no there’s nothing wrong with that . What I find hilarious is these ‘imaginative’ individuals trying to articulate their Adderall fueled, crackpot, conspiracy theories on camera and attempt to sell it off as “content”. Anything for those sweet, sweet views & likes, that replenish the void left in them by their alcoholic fathers I guess.
The Theorizer is pretty much the sun in the solar system of insane children's movies theories and I'm pretty sure he knows it. Nearly all of his videos are just too ridiculous to be for real.
Everything he said is a new commandment in chaos. He terrifies me to no end. Out of every mortal on this planet his madness knows no bounds. He has been born of chaos and has now molded these worlds to his madness and whims. He's a genius
Standard millennial family: "Meet my son, Spike. Don't mind our pet dog Reginald, and try not to overfeed our pet fish Thibauld Morrisette Aniston III." Also they have a pet rock named Chancellor
i actually used to watch the fangirl and theorizer's videos on coraline when i was younger, i just really love the story and loved hearing people talk about it even if it was utterly unhinged lol
Same they have nice voices helps me get to sleep better even though they are unhinged sometimes there more of a creepypasta type of vibe in some videos
Wow, I never knew the film went this deep... I do love AbitFrank because at least she uses the book as a primary source to back up the film and then says that it COULD be this. My most unhinged theory is that the Beldam has some Pennywise style powers that affects the house and possibly some of the town, that just makes everything a little bit bleak and dull.
The Theorizer does the same thing. It's not supposed to be considered the creators intention. It's just pointing out plot holes and using other details we know to reach the most unhinged conclusions. It's fun and chaotic. I don't know why it's making people so mad.
I follow Abitfrank too and lolled at seeing her small mentions. I enjoy her videos and while yes she's done a lot with Coraline, I wouldn't consider or include her in with the unhinged theorists. Out of all of them, she's the only one I like and am not weirdest out by. The others are...... unsettling 😅
"The theorizer is crazy" that is an understatement of the century because he was able to make a series of videos about how mortal the lemur from Madagascar is some sort of god
This is wild to me because if these people just asked Neil Gaiman about most of these on Tumblr, he'd probably answer. The Cat can't travel dimensions because of being a fairy, The Cat can travel dimensions because that's just something all cats can do. I have a theory on that first RUclipsr, she actually isn't real and its a dead body being controlled by the doll sitting next to her; I have no evidence to back this up but I want to make up random bullshit too. Feels a bit racist to be like "The black cat is related to the black people in the film." Maybe the real Coraline theory was the friends me made along the way.
❤️ ❤️ ❤️ YES!! Anyone who reads NG knows that’s just how he writes cats. They can travel between Farie, earth, and other realms. They know shit. And they’re pretty aloof when it comes to humans.
The idea of cats traveling between the real world and other realms isn’t that far fetched. In Lord Dunsany’s novel “The King of Elfland’s Daughter” (which happens to be one of Gaiman’s biggest influences), there’s a bit of world building that establishes that certain animals originating from either the real world and the faerie realm (particularly foxes and unicorns) are known to naturally slip through the barriers separating the two planes of reality when searching for food. That seems to be the angle Gaiman was aiming for when he conceived the character.
my coraline theory is that the doll drifting into the window at the opening of the movie is because it somehow fell down the well. It looks like its drifting through water.
also, ybie says to coraline that its rumored that you would see a sky full of stars if you fell down. That, and the ring of mushrooms I think are subtle hints that the well actually is a portal
i like ur content but there were a lot of moments in this video where u kinda came across as a douche. like w the first two theorizers u showed u we’re rlly ripping into the very small creator for seemingly no reason, like, it’s not that deep, they made a bad theory but u don’t need to make fun of them so much
@@JRandaIIoh u hav no idea. when u use “u” u can save a lot of time. it depends on how many u’s u use but when u are me u use u an awful lot so u is great! u can use u too if u want to save urself some time! 🤗
This video starts off really mean spirited, attacking someone personally and implying they are schizophrenic? I'm all for take downs of bad theories but you just come off as bullying small creators. I was here for the timeline videos, even if they were filled with "air yeeting", I don't need to stick around if this is what your content is turning into.
The only theorists i know of that talk about Coraline is The Theorizer and Abitfrank. One of the most interesting things I’ve learned about the movie itself is that in the opening where the doll is being made, the Beldam is using tools used when preparing bodies in a funeral home (I forget what they’re actually called 😅)
@@flagondragon1854I think personally while I understand he’s joking some of it comes off like he’s genuinely upset with them more than just joking to an extent, especially when he’s says things like “I hate when creators use subtitles to correct things I like when they actually that it seriously” about a channels that do the same things as him and his evidence for certain things has been purely circumstantial before. That’s just how I see it though if that helps 😁 all discussions and opinions are valid in there own regard
Ok you didn't mention this but the cat LITERALLY tells Coraline not to go. He says "You're wandering right into her trap, you know.." when she gets the idea to go to the other world
Half of the coraline theorists have no idea it was a book, cant be asked to read it or don’t actually follow the author or research him. They just take spooky kids movie and run with it. As a massive Neil Gaiman fan it’s kinda sad, because his work is fucking amazing and genuinely does have a load of twists and theories that Neil himself has played around with, I wish people would actually read the stuff they’re making videos about. Hell coraline even has a sparknotes page! Neil Gaiman has an active tumblr the man’s on there more than me, he interacts with people and answers questions, some about coraline, idk man I don’t love the theories
Honestly, Neil's Tumblr responses are one of the few reasons I still visit the site 😂 He will get the most out of pocket questions and take them in stride; something I wish more authors could do really ^^"
Actually the youtuber at 0:46 isn't necessarily a theorist. Her name is "abitfrank", She actually goes into detail about the book and talks about how weird it is and how different it is from the movie. She doesn't really go as far as the other ones do.
what exactly is so bad in theorizing on a movie that.. well.. is pretty open for interpretation? and even if you believe the wildest, most out there theories about this film, does that mean you've gone completely insane? i do not get your point. these are people who just theorize on these films for the fun of it! theorizing on films is completely harmless lmao i think that "death of the author" also comes into play here. because fans of a piece of fiction have the right to surpass the authors intentions or in this case, the directors. and even if the original creators were not aware of certain connections in their works, the fans are creating their own headcanons! not everything has to be strictly coherent, you know
Fans do not have the right to surpass the author, what??? Im all for headcannons and fun aus and things like that, but when a headcanon is taken too seriously, claimed to be true, or just straight up goes against the original point entirely, thats when it becomes harmful. Like how the mha author was receiving death threats because he said Deku was straight. I ship bakudeku just like the next guy, but im aware it isnt canon and is just fun for fanfics and cute art. The headcanon of Bakudeku was taken too seriously by the fans and it caused actual harm to the creator. That isn't okay. Obviously most of these creators aren't going that far, but you also have to consider the fact that they put themselves out on the internet. Just as you have the right to say whatever you think and share it with others, putting yourself out there allows others to share what they think of you. Tis the double edged sword of the internet.
How tf does a callback to a literal nuclear disaster in Pripyat hold more ground than these other theories? Like, I thought the Chernobyl one was gonna be the falsest out of all of these
about the 'full face of makeup and curled hair', she did say that she got back from school, meaning she was out prior and likely already got dressed for that; She didn't say something along the lines of 'I didn't have the energy to DO my makeup today'
Ok but- the theorizer is actually a good channel, their wizard of Oz video has me watching that movie differently. They lean into the insanity of film theorizing because it can be a little.. insane.
37:42 “I think someone should make an empire for you, one where you never lost your marbles” has been playing in my head all day. That and the Blink 182 “mini theory” lol
@@JohnB-im3eu it's not harmless theorizing when people unironically let it affect how they consume media. We have to allow people to be critical to avoid media illiteracy
I honestly disagree with him ripping on random videos of people he disagrees with about theory's like thay're just having fun making theories about there favourite movie thay're not doing anything wrong it's honestly so pretty and you constantly call them unhinged when what's unhinged is someone ripping on someone else because they disagree over a fictional movie
@@Jose-yy4yo it's not being sensitive. I'm not offended by it, but I can recognise when someone is being a dick, and if you think their dumb that's your opinion, I disagree. I think think thay're people discussing their interests. They don't have to do that in a way you like.
When you make a critique on literature, you have to ultimately base all of your assertions on the text, and those assertions need to be coherent. Film deserves the same standards
There's a reason we criticize content farms. You know these people don't "believe different things" they are making content to get clips. It's why they lie about certain events
*gasp* Keith David also plays Husk in Hazbin Hotel who is also a black cat which means that the cat was really trying to lure Coraline to Hell! Not really making a theory but I can see one of these theorists running with that eventually.
@fruitloops2058 I mean... The Princess and The Frog shows Dr. Facilier getting dragged to Hell AND cats have important spiritual symbolism, lol There's stuff there if you wanted to stretch a bit for it
I enjoy the Theorizer because we know he's unhinged, HE KNOWS he's unhinged and it's all about going down the spiral, especially the Coraline and Mort vids.
Okay, I have schizophrenia and her descriptions of the illness and systems (which she DEFINITELY did a 2-minute good search, like didn't even read something as mediocre as a wedmd or wiki page on it) are so skewed it's borderline-offensive. She's mixing-and-matching symptoms from completely different types of schizophrenia, for a start. It's like saying someone has anxiety and then mashing together symptoms of panic attacks, health anxiety, social anxiety, OCD, a phobia etc. Schizophrenics being "very aggressive toward others" is untrue and a harmful stereotype. Mentally ill people are far more likely to be VICTIMS of crime than to perpetrate one, and the overwhelming majority are neither violent nor aggressive. The often being unable to distinguish hallucinations from reality are because they're extremely realistic and vivid and usually stuff that's POSSIBLE in reality. Before meds, I would have conversations with people I knew who weren't really there (but obviously COULD have been) or even scary stuff like bugs and spiders crawling around. ANd she's "Very childlike" because she's ELEVEN. The intense lack of motivation of also very closely related to extreme emotional flatness. Which she does NOT have. We often see her anxious, or scared or angry. ANd she's fully motivated to defeat the bad mother and save her parents in the end.
Uhh...so you're a coraline theorist theorist here, and you have your OWN coraline theories about the cat, and coming up with theories too... UHH CZ? IS CZ A FAERIE TOO?!
The only Coraline theorist I follow is abitfrank. She is something of an expert on old fairy tales, which are very gruesome if anyone is interested, so I trust her judgement more than others since the author is busy lol. But I still thought she might've gone too far when she claimed the fog surrounding the pink palace might actually be trying to help the Beldam. Instead of, you know, being used for atmosphere in a freaky movie.
1:00min in and i can already tell this is gonna be wild. so the first chick has never met a real, live Cat? i mean, they are better than you and they know that they are better than you and they know that you know that they know that they are better than you.
cats can also teleport, this is a known fact of life. i’ll see my cat upstairs and then he’ll be downstairs without me seeing him come down. that’s just how cats are, they’re magical little freaks
@@dr.pepperbiggestfan I can explain that. That's mostly tied to any containers holding food, be it bags, cans, whatever. Everyone should know that whenever you even touch one, they send psionic waves into the universe and these waves open little fissures, which are invisible to the human eye, for animals to go through and get treats from their humans. There, the truth is out.
23:58 The movie itself explains the white space, and it's Not because the other mother wants Coraline to think she's weaker than she actually is. "She only made what she Knew would impress you."
Didn't even know "Coraline Theorists" was a thing. After watching even just a couple of minutes of CZs video, I'm both intrigued and scared at the same time that people go so deep into this movie lol. Its pretty cool, actually. These Theorists look like they are dead fkn serious with this stuff. Question: Never seen the movie or had the desire to. Is it worth a watch? Edit: I welcome your suggestions and thoughts btw and I dont have a problem with your suggestions and thoughts. Im not judging the movie or anything, nor am I judging the Theorists.
I once googled who is the dead fairy in Coraline and I found a part of tmblr where a fan was asking Neil Gaiman whether that dead fairy was the Beldam 's mother. He said that the only time that fairy is mentioned is on chapter 12. In this chapter, Coraline has escaped and freed her parents and the ghost children, whom she dreams of later that night. One of the girls is described to have butterfly like wings. So, one would say that she is the fairy of the story and not the Beldam, a conclusion that can open the door to so many more theories. What I don 't understand is how this tip from Gaiman has managed to slip from practically everyone.
I have honestly only seen The Theorizer, love his crazy ramblings and the Coraline theories is how I found him, and he has always been obssesed with making the innocent or unremarkable characters the villain, recently he has found better examples, and also when he was making the Coraline theories he had this animated series of sorts going on oh his 2nd or third channel which was absolutley insane, it was made in stick figures but it was clearly deranged, and abitfrank who has great fairytale videos, everyone else I am unfamiliar with.
I just finished reading "The Outsider" by Stephen King which involved a mythological creature called "El Cuco" and there was shape shifting and feeding off of misery and sadness.
All of these are so much better than the people making videos where they insis their interpretations or their explanation of endings is "the correct one". Having a crazy interpretation of art rather than telling others how to view it is healthier and more creative.
I disagree with all these unhinged theories (as I should honestly) but the "the ending is not happy at all " theory is the one for which i strongly agree with. Sorry but for me it's true 😂
@@On_NbornThat literally flies in the face of Neil’s own words about the story from a Canadian BC interview about Coraline in light of the (at the time,) upcoming film release, in which he specifically states that the point is to show young people that bad things can be overcome, which by definition is contradicted by the frankly unhinged edge-lord film interpretation which states as if speaking objective fact and not a subjective hypothesis, that Coraline never escaped, using the 🐈⬛ as a piece of evidence alongside the parents being nicer/more attentive, as if a stressed couple with a child having that stress alleviated wouldn’t come across better than that same couple when under heavy stress due to financial issues, a move, work deadlines, and a recent hospitalisation due to a car accident.
I just saw a viewing of Coraline 15th Anniversary 3D yesterday at the local theater. Next day I wake up and check YT and all these theory videos are on my feed. Coraline is one of my favorite movies of all time, and somehow I've managed to avoid insane theory nonsense for 15 years. I think every single one of you theorists owe me reparations.
Why are you roasting Random Critique. Ok if you don't her contents and theories , sure that is respectful but to call her unhinged etc. That is abit too much don't you think
i personally always really enjoy the theorizer because his videos are so batshit insane that they are entertaining. and theres no way he actually believes the stuff his whole internet personality is that image of charlie day with the conspiracy board
It does feel like Coraline could be set in the Sandman setting in some ways, but I can't imagine Gaiman wanting to scare kids with the idea of Coraline running into the Corinthian or Azazel or Desire. I kinda love the idea that Coraline grows up to be a Constantine type figure though, who could take on the Sandman universe.
Maybe I’m biased here but it seems to me that this video is more unhinged then then coraline theory videos because these are videos that are made for fun yes they are over analyzing but I don’t think they are meant to be taken serious they are just some different ways to maybe look at the movie or some dumb interpretation of things in the movie but they are not claiming that what they say are a fact at when it comes to the theorizer as his videos are the only ones I’ve watched but this video seems more unhinged as czs started to make weird personal insults that didn’t seem necessary seeing as the theories themselves are enough to make fun of and these people are over analyzing things czs has decided that the people making them are saying these things like they are facts of the movie and not what they are which is fun theories that aren’t meant to be taken to seriously Edit:it also seems like a bad faith interpretation of these videos that’s the main point
I like this video concept but you could have done it in an interesting way without being mean about it. You brought up the first girl’s appearance comments way too much. She’s a young girl leave her alone and focus on the dumb Coraline theories.
ABitFrank is actually an excellent theorist. She makes them enjoyable to listen to, almost like listening to a bedtime story. I don't find her theories too outlandish and actually within the bounds of the story while also bringing in other lore elements that lend their influence to the story. It's fun, and I learn new things about some lore I haven't before.
Our family loves this movie so much. when our oldest daughter was 18 months old this became her favorite movie and after watching it multiple times a day and when 6 months passed and I was to give birth to our second daughter it only felt appropriate to name her Coraline.
These people are just trying to have fun and you was kind of mean about it, it's not important so why was you so unkind about it? It's not the end of the world, it's just a story :(
Yeah, no. You're just too much of a softie, like most of CZ's audience. These people are doing this for TWO and ONLY TWO reasons: FAME and PROFIT. Two things that, especially nowdays, will make a shallow enough person do anything for.
I had no idea how extreme some of them were. It’s insane. Abitfrank is good though she read the book and watched the movie several times. But the others are kinda like ehhhhhhh not good
A lot of this feels like you’re just hating. Sure the first two girls were outta of pocket. But with the theorizer, I don’t get why it’s wrong for him change his view on some. If he first thought cat was African American, why can’t he change his view on that if he starts seeing things differently?
OMG 😂 let me explain myself:
Okay so essentially everything from parts 6-11 were me trying (and failing) to figure out “wtf is up with the cat” lol. It was a massive exercise in throwing ideas out there until I got something solid… But I don’t regret it, because it led to the whole “cat IS the other world” idea that is more coherent. THAT was my final conclusion.
You can see the peak of my absurdity riiiiiiight before that, when I “see the cat in the shadow” before finally snapping back 😂It was wild, the “crazy parts” were all uploaded in a 5 month span of me bending in on myself & exposing myself & making theories on my own theories to find the light again 🤣 Most of the commenters knew what was going on, it was a journey they were apart of, the compilation sadly loses that element. So you’re right, the 2-cat-son-grandpa stuff is nuts, but surprisingly it served its purpose (it walked so my solid stuff could run).
You're right, I was absolutely the originator here, and as you pointed out, I tried to reign back some of the others. It really bugged me, especially the genuine seriousness some had. ffs now TikTok has gotten ahold of it, and I’ve given up. I certainly don’t believe it all was “intended” by the makers, I try to make that clear later on, obviously only solid stuff should be considered there.
It's not just Coraline tho, a chunk of my channel consists of me diving into the furthest corners of a lore and saying “this COULD be here”, then having fun with creating & filling plot holes, but usually the creators have no intentions. Well *sometimes* they do, but a lot of my theories are just me examining possibilities; sometimes it goes crazy far… My Coraline vids are actually my LEAST unhinged (aside from my concrete show predictions & stuff).
I also want to highlight I made all of this when I was 14 years old. I thought it was cool AF, and most people seem to see through the nonsense into anything valuable (as they should).
Also yes, I’m insane.
@SmileAway21you have no idea how many dinners I also had… basically these coraline videos were my teenage years that is why I hold some love to them even if they are just nonsense 🤣🤣
You could also say "yeah my bad, I made up a bunch of stuff with no supporting evidence, research, or taking the original book into account, sorry about that!"
@@IIZylarkI constantly took the book into account, and have volumes of evidence, watch them for yourself lmao
@@TheTheorizer No thank you. I've seen all I need to see. It's very clear that you did not, or if you did, you ignored the very clear intentions of the author and details straight out of the book. As CZ points out multiple times, I could say "what if" to everything too since there's literally no evidence for the things you mention. What if it's the multiple cats controlling me to reply to your comment right now??? OOOooo spooky theory, come watch 18 more videos of mine!
I love how you could have just taken this opportunity to say it was all a joke, but you decided to double down. A true Coraline Theorist to the end lmao 🥲
It was fun to watch though, satire or not! Glad there's no hard feelings haha 🤘
It all started with The Theorizer, he realized how unrealistic his theories were about halfway through and it became his whole style to OVER THEORIZE about things. It’s brilliant.
I love his unhinged deep dives so much
His mort theory is next level
I love him so much, the unhinged ideas that are tied together by other unhinged ideas make his videos great for background sound while playing games. It's wild having a general idea of what he's talking about and being disrupted by an "epiphany" lmao
"in the movie we rarely get to see Coraline REALLY sleep" - ah, yes, as opposed to most movies that will frequently have an 8-hour scene of a character sleeping,
So many people somehow forget that movies are crafted and scripted. She’s theorizing about this movie like Coraline is living a real life, which could be a fun exercise, but doesn’t apply when you’re *genuinely theorizing about a movie with a finite world and a known plot.
Didn't Andy Warhol do that for a movie? Some vague false or real memory popped up when I read your quick witty observation...
@@abcde_fzyeah, he made a film named empire that's just him filming the empire state building for 8 hours
this comment is cracking me up
Paranormal activity shows quite a lot of sleeping 😂
A Random Critique doesn't remember Neil Gaiman wrote why the Cat doesn't have a name in the book. Cats don't need names because they already know who they are.
Exactly!! YesYaaaasssssss! The damn cat says it in the movie and book. 👆
@@gabriellemadrid2831In fairness, if knowing the cat's name would give you power over it why would it admit to having one?
Nice.
a lot of these theories can be disproven by shit in the book lol.
She's a bozo talking out of her behind for views
ngl the fact you got The Theorizer on here is hilarious, dude has made MULTIPLE Mort from Madigascar theories each more unhinged than the last. hes great
Having watched the whole show a couple times, its not even that far off of a theory. Half of it is just explaining details from the show
Bro went from theories to roasting😂
New Cz ruthless
@@andii2980bruh…
And I’m here supporting it 😌
Less wars, more petty drama
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I felt so vindicated when he called out those "Eww I look like a mess but I have makeup and hair on" youtubers with the exaggerated personalities
Pick Me girl energy. She might be really cool but the fishing for compliments is bad. It’s bad for men and for women. Just admit you worked hard to be beautiful and put your best foot forward. It’s fine.
Adding the Theorizor in the lineup surprisingly makes him sound way more sane than he actually is- 💀
I honestly dont know how far he is just joking and how far he actually believes it
@@Danielmarq606 I don't think he knows at this point.
@@alannatherson7721we may never know
Still enjoy their content tho. Some of them are genuinely fun, the Mort videos however, should definitely stop..
@@vibeanddie8926 I feed off the chaos. Though I do worry for my own sanity trying to watch anything DreamWorks. I can't lie 😔
The Theorizer is probably just doing all of his theories for shiggles, he's literally made theories about Mort from Madagascar being Death and Satan💀.
Actually that is canon not joking
@@debater452 ruclips.net/video/hOb55MaEna0/видео.htmlsi=hdszA7kgdvqZgZet
one of his most legit theories im not kidding
I feel like I would’ve ate that up if I were a 12 year old so honestly there is an audience out there who likes that type of content
@@lyna7038 nothing to "eat up" you're just forming an opinion without having watched any of the content, that's being immature
Registered nurse here 🤚
I’m just dropping in to offer my services to treat the 3rd degree absolute BURNS the first girl was roasted with lol
HAHAHA
willing to send remaining Silvadene to assist in the surrounding burn areas
Oh snap!😂
As someone with insomnia. If you insomnia isn’t crazy bad, you will get tired without days of sleep. The scene where Coraline can’t sleep, is because of the terrifying situation she’s in. If you were kidnapped and your parents were taken, would you just sleep the second your head hits the pillow.
i have insomnia as a symptom of mania coming from my bipolar disorder so i can second that you DO feel at least physically tired without days of sleep, like you can tell your body hasn’t gotten rest in a way that’s hard to explain.
I love coraline theories but sometimes it just gets…… yeah. Sometimes certain lengths shouldn’t be reached.
Imagine the writers of Coraline looking at these; laughter, shock and derp faces
@@robinkholmes7127 Why? You aren't a writer, are you? People don't write, so we people come to the same conclusions as us. They write to give you a world to explore and find your own way through them. If making theories is lame or cringe, the only thing worse is making a "nu-uh" video saying your theory is wrong because mine is right. That's trying to force people to imagine the same way as you, instead of forming their own adventure from the materials. Writers don't laugh at people's theories, they are happy their work touched them enough that they created theories.
@@nerdjournalI’m a writer. I’m laughing at these people. Not for having “a different imagination”; no there’s nothing wrong with that . What I find hilarious is these ‘imaginative’ individuals trying to articulate their Adderall fueled, crackpot, conspiracy theories on camera and attempt to sell it off as “content”. Anything for those sweet, sweet views & likes, that replenish the void left in them by their alcoholic fathers I guess.
@@davemccage7918and they always look the same lmao
That, exactly what you said bigboris, most got me banging my head
I can tell you what's in the shed. Garden tools. Because there's a giant fucking garden bed back there.
The Theorizer is pretty much the sun in the solar system of insane children's movies theories and I'm pretty sure he knows it. Nearly all of his videos are just too ridiculous to be for real.
I wouldn’t say too ridiculous because there is evidence that supports him he just does it in the most unhinged way possible
Everything he said is a new commandment in chaos. He terrifies me to no end. Out of every mortal on this planet his madness knows no bounds. He has been born of chaos and has now molded these worlds to his madness and whims.
He's a genius
Lol I thought he was a schizophrenic for a while. Till I jus understood he was jus obsessed and a outside the box thinker
I just assumed it was mostly joke material.
but he's so entertaining lol
The Chernobyl cleanup is probably the only one mentioned here that could be true and im down with it.
I mean, that’s not really a theory, it’s more or less canon due to the medal being present.
im pretty sure this theory is true
@@Pessimism6356but Chernobyl isn't Russia?! It's Ukraine or back then USSR but still not russia perse
@@Pessimism6356he’s literally blue… and Chernobyl isn’t in Russia… it’s in Ukraine
@@Pessimism6356who’s blue and wears a medal given to those who risked their lives to help with the clean up
Thousands of years later and we still blame the black cats 🙄
They'll never shake the stigma! Thanks for the support!
Yes 👏🏼 Not fair to them at all.
"At least my parents didn't name me Spike" I'm 💀.
I can't believe your parents named you skull emoji.
@@jaymethomas5170 Lmao 🤣
Standard millennial family: "Meet my son, Spike. Don't mind our pet dog Reginald, and try not to overfeed our pet fish Thibauld Morrisette Aniston III."
Also they have a pet rock named Chancellor
@@thrashandburn10221 🤣🤣🤣
@@thrashandburn10221 this comment was way too oddly specific, is everything okay at home?
*COUGH* _The Theorizer_ *COUGH*
Edit: Just to clarify, I don't mean this in a negative way
Yeah but the theorizer is obviously joking
Ok but he is just having fun
@@juaquintiscareno I think he lost his mind sometime around Mort being a god
I also don’t say that to jump on you because he is insane and not In only a positive way(most likely a animated goofball)
@@arran4285yeah honestly mort is definitely something but I’m not sure of a god
i actually used to watch the fangirl and theorizer's videos on coraline when i was younger, i just really love the story and loved hearing people talk about it even if it was utterly unhinged lol
Me too.
Same they have nice voices helps me get to sleep better even though they are unhinged sometimes there more of a creepypasta type of vibe in some videos
Whybes grandma being evil honestly isn’t too insane when you remember what she named him 😂😭
Why would his grandma name him?
@@brandenharder6378 its probably a nickname, and the dude probably just lived with her since he was little and was never told his real name.
You must admire the dedication of those who were touched so deeply by this great film that they are determined to look for things that are not there.
The Theorizer is unhinged on purpose, so you definitely do need to take that into account
He also dissects a load of univeres and genre theories that likely broke his mind.
@@Jessidafennecfoxmort
@@TheTheorizer U shaped my teenage years
@@TheTheorizerbrb cackling
Then again so is Mort probably
I love The Theorizer's theories so much. He always goes over the top and it's great. Makes me think of Charlie Day and his red thread board lmao
Pepe Silvia
Yes. I immediately clicked on the notification because i 100% agree and finally someone calls them out.
Same bro lmao
I clicked only bc I have no idea about any of this but bc it sounds crazy.
I didnt care much ab Coraline but im here for this vid bashing theories 😂
Same but they’re rlly funny to watch
This needs to be done with every overreaching fandom.
Final Boss:
Five Nights at Freddy's
This is perhaps the longest example of the pot calling the kettle black I have ever seen, and I am here for it in all its ironic crunchiness.
Wow, I never knew the film went this deep...
I do love AbitFrank because at least she uses the book as a primary source to back up the film and then says that it COULD be this.
My most unhinged theory is that the Beldam has some Pennywise style powers that affects the house and possibly some of the town, that just makes everything a little bit bleak and dull.
The Theorizer does the same thing. It's not supposed to be considered the creators intention. It's just pointing out plot holes and using other details we know to reach the most unhinged conclusions. It's fun and chaotic. I don't know why it's making people so mad.
I follow Abitfrank too and lolled at seeing her small mentions. I enjoy her videos and while yes she's done a lot with Coraline, I wouldn't consider or include her in with the unhinged theorists. Out of all of them, she's the only one I like and am not weirdest out by. The others are...... unsettling 😅
"The theorizer is crazy" that is an understatement of the century because he was able to make a series of videos about how mortal the lemur from Madagascar is some sort of god
his videos make me laugh
I just started watching mort theory and I have not thought about Madagascar this much in years tbh
This is wild to me because if these people just asked Neil Gaiman about most of these on Tumblr, he'd probably answer. The Cat can't travel dimensions because of being a fairy, The Cat can travel dimensions because that's just something all cats can do. I have a theory on that first RUclipsr, she actually isn't real and its a dead body being controlled by the doll sitting next to her; I have no evidence to back this up but I want to make up random bullshit too. Feels a bit racist to be like "The black cat is related to the black people in the film." Maybe the real Coraline theory was the friends me made along the way.
❤️ ❤️ ❤️ YES!! Anyone who reads NG knows that’s just how he writes cats. They can travel between Farie, earth, and other realms. They know shit. And they’re pretty aloof when it comes to humans.
The idea of cats traveling between the real world and other realms isn’t that far fetched. In Lord Dunsany’s novel “The King of Elfland’s Daughter” (which happens to be one of Gaiman’s biggest influences), there’s a bit of world building that establishes that certain animals originating from either the real world and the faerie realm (particularly foxes and unicorns) are known to naturally slip through the barriers separating the two planes of reality when searching for food. That seems to be the angle Gaiman was aiming for when he conceived the character.
Haha!! I’m definitely UNHINGED for making those videos😂 Can’t say I disagree with your opinions.
my coraline theory is that the doll drifting into the window at the opening of the movie is because it somehow fell down the well. It looks like its drifting through water.
also, ybie says to coraline that its rumored that you would see a sky full of stars if you fell down. That, and the ring of mushrooms I think are subtle hints that the well actually is a portal
i like ur content but there were a lot of moments in this video where u kinda came across as a douche. like w the first two theorizers u showed u we’re rlly ripping into the very small creator for seemingly no reason, like, it’s not that deep, they made a bad theory but u don’t need to make fun of them so much
How much time does using the letter “u” really save you from typing two more letters…? 🧐
@@JRandaIIoh u hav no idea. when u use “u” u can save a lot of time. it depends on how many u’s u use but when u are me u use u an awful lot so u is great! u can use u too if u want to save urself some time! 🤗
I like Coraline theories (some of them have merit) and I like little hidden clues (like the lightning hand) but most of them are freaking unhinged.
I agree ☝🏼
This video starts off really mean spirited, attacking someone personally and implying they are schizophrenic? I'm all for take downs of bad theories but you just come off as bullying small creators. I was here for the timeline videos, even if they were filled with "air yeeting", I don't need to stick around if this is what your content is turning into.
stop being sensitive it's funny asf😂
Yeh this video just seems so weird to me. Call the insanity out but it just feels so mean-spirited and awkward lol
@@Jose-yy4yostop being sensitive that not everyone loves your favoruite loser content creator.
its a joke get over it
Im sorry but if you do hours of research for a twenty minute video just to lose
The only theorists i know of that talk about Coraline is The Theorizer and Abitfrank.
One of the most interesting things I’ve learned about the movie itself is that in the opening where the doll is being made, the Beldam is using tools used when preparing bodies in a funeral home (I forget what they’re actually called 😅)
Mortician tools. Haven't seen the film in a while, so maybe more specifically, embalming tools?
@@Amarianee yeah! 😅
Yeah, Abitfrank seems abitobsessed. I watched a couple when my daughter was into coraline.
I wouldn't even call Abitfrank a theorist so much as a gothic entertainer who enjoys source comparisons.
@@TactlessC yeah, I didn’t mean to call her a theorist, I should have mentioned her separately as someone who also talks about coraline.
0:11 omg the gacha video help
I feel that 😂
CZ just decided he wanted to fight every smaller creator in existence at the same time.
Small creators 😂 keep on meat ridding these asinine theory's
@@Shippo28They aren't actually meat-ridding, they are just joking about it. Learn to read tone through text.
@@unfazed37 critical thinking and reading is severely lacking with the younger folks
@@flagondragon1854I think personally while I understand he’s joking some of it comes off like he’s genuinely upset with them more than just joking to an extent, especially when he’s says things like “I hate when creators use subtitles to correct things I like when they actually that it seriously” about a channels that do the same things as him and his evidence for certain things has been purely circumstantial before. That’s just how I see it though if that helps 😁 all discussions and opinions are valid in there own regard
@tashabeck4121 the person I replied to comment got deleted. It was somthing really dumb that's why I said they lack things
Ok you didn't mention this but the cat LITERALLY tells Coraline not to go. He says "You're wandering right into her trap, you know.." when she gets the idea to go to the other world
This title is too wild not to immediately click omg
There are few fandoms with this level of power
Then the end comes and you see the comments and say sir what do you have against the theorizer personally 😭😂
Half of the coraline theorists have no idea it was a book, cant be asked to read it or don’t actually follow the author or research him. They just take spooky kids movie and run with it. As a massive Neil Gaiman fan it’s kinda sad, because his work is fucking amazing and genuinely does have a load of twists and theories that Neil himself has played around with, I wish people would actually read the stuff they’re making videos about. Hell coraline even has a sparknotes page! Neil Gaiman has an active tumblr the man’s on there more than me, he interacts with people and answers questions, some about coraline, idk man I don’t love the theories
And graphical novel by Neil too.
Honestly, Neil's Tumblr responses are one of the few reasons I still visit the site 😂
He will get the most out of pocket questions and take them in stride; something I wish more authors could do really ^^"
Imagine needing Sparknotes for a 60 page book
@@CZsWorld you’d be surprised, I’ve seen spark notes pages for 5 line poems before
My unhinged theory is this video is a love letter made for MatPat’s retirement.
Had to do it since RUclips blurred my name out on their MatPat tribute video
@@CZsWorld Oh that is so poop of RUclips. But so sweet of you!
Actually the youtuber at 0:46 isn't necessarily a theorist. Her name is "abitfrank", She actually goes into detail about the book and talks about how weird it is and how different it is from the movie. She doesn't really go as far as the other ones do.
I love hearing CZ rant about unhinged nonsense like this, it's so fun.
yup
what exactly is so bad in theorizing on a movie that.. well.. is pretty open for interpretation? and even if you believe the wildest, most out there theories about this film, does that mean you've gone completely insane? i do not get your point. these are people who just theorize on these films for the fun of it! theorizing on films is completely harmless lmao
i think that "death of the author" also comes into play here. because fans of a piece of fiction have the right to surpass the authors intentions or in this case, the directors. and even if the original creators were not aware of certain connections in their works, the fans are creating their own headcanons! not everything has to be strictly coherent, you know
Fans do not have the right to surpass the author, what??? Im all for headcannons and fun aus and things like that, but when a headcanon is taken too seriously, claimed to be true, or just straight up goes against the original point entirely, thats when it becomes harmful. Like how the mha author was receiving death threats because he said Deku was straight. I ship bakudeku just like the next guy, but im aware it isnt canon and is just fun for fanfics and cute art. The headcanon of Bakudeku was taken too seriously by the fans and it caused actual harm to the creator. That isn't okay. Obviously most of these creators aren't going that far, but you also have to consider the fact that they put themselves out on the internet. Just as you have the right to say whatever you think and share it with others, putting yourself out there allows others to share what they think of you. Tis the double edged sword of the internet.
The Chernobyl theory with Bobinsky is actually true, he was a survivor of Chernobyl and even has the award that survivors of it got.
How tf does a callback to a literal nuclear disaster in Pripyat hold more ground than these other theories? Like, I thought the Chernobyl one was gonna be the falsest out of all of these
@@pramusetyakanca1552 Because Bobinsky's skin is blue, that's not normal.
@@YSL8704... oh yeah, u rite, I dunno how I didn't see that
@@YSL8704 Is he supposed to be drinking a shit ton of colloidal silver then? What does blue skin has to do with being a Chernobyl survivor?
@@StargazerSkyscraper Radiation does weird shit to the body is why his skin is blue.
about the 'full face of makeup and curled hair', she did say that she got back from school, meaning she was out prior and likely already got dressed for that; She didn't say something along the lines of 'I didn't have the energy to DO my makeup today'
The Theorizor mentioned time for a shot 🎉
Are you drinking at every mention? If so, I hope you've got healing factor; even if, the second half of this video would get Wolverine drunk
Bro's liver is gonna *hate* him
The Theorizor has wild theories for many things I found him doing Once Upon a Time theories.
In defence of The Theorizer, batshit insane theories is kinda his whole thing.
😂I almost spit my gum out after I heard, “WHERE ARE YOU?”😂🤣🤣
My man woke up...chose violence and thought...yea im ending some youtube careers today lol
Shame that it's just a nerd crying about other nerds
Abitfrank is the only Coraline theorist I watch (well, her content isn’t entirely devoted to that. Most of her videos are about folklore and stuff).
Yes! I love watching her videos too
She’s a great creator! Not that I think any of these guys are genuinely bad just having fun lol. I love her fairytale videos!
Same ❤
In addition to being more sane, her theories also draw a lot of their extended lore information from the original book, which adds to the credibility.
i actually love the theorizer, it’s very obvious w his recent videos that it’s all comedic and intentionally insane.
That blink 182 joke was the greatest thing that’s ever happened to me. Thank you.
Ok but- the theorizer is actually a good channel, their wizard of Oz video has me watching that movie differently. They lean into the insanity of film theorizing because it can be a little.. insane.
Personal head canon, the Cat is actually Keith David himself slipping into an alternate reality where he is a talking cat
I JUST SAW STRONGBAD!!!!!
Keith David ❤
Okay but what if, the Cat is actually Spawn, who shapeshifted into another form to lay low.
Wort wort wort
37:42 “I think someone should make an empire for you, one where you never lost your marbles” has been playing in my head all day. That and the Blink 182 “mini theory” lol
Freaking finally someone is saying something! Every time I try to bring this up, people come for my neck.
Simps are just defending their queen dont worry bro its the loosers pack mentality.
Because it's pathetic to feel like you need to slam people for harmlessly theorising about movies they like. Ironic given what this channel is.
@@JohnB-im3eu theorizing or just yapping nonsense for views??
@@JohnB-im3eu it's not harmless theorizing when people unironically let it affect how they consume media. We have to allow people to be critical to avoid media illiteracy
I’m loving this mix of silly internet commentary and horror content fr
I always believed The Theorizer is just doing insanely far fetched and weird theories on purpose, they just seem too unreal
I honestly disagree with him ripping on random videos of people he disagrees with about theory's like thay're just having fun making theories about there favourite movie thay're not doing anything wrong it's honestly so pretty and you constantly call them unhinged when what's unhinged is someone ripping on someone else because they disagree over a fictional movie
nah quit being sensitive lol they are dumb 😂 CZ is funny asf
@@Jose-yy4yoCZ is cringe as fuk. Virigin behaviour.
@@Jose-yy4yo it's not being sensitive. I'm not offended by it, but I can recognise when someone is being a dick, and if you think their dumb that's your opinion, I disagree. I think think thay're people discussing their interests. They don't have to do that in a way you like.
When you make a critique on literature, you have to ultimately base all of your assertions on the text, and those assertions need to be coherent. Film deserves the same standards
There's a reason we criticize content farms. You know these people don't "believe different things" they are making content to get clips. It's why they lie about certain events
*gasp* Keith David also plays Husk in Hazbin Hotel who is also a black cat which means that the cat was really trying to lure Coraline to Hell! Not really making a theory but I can see one of these theorists running with that eventually.
Can't wait for the Hazbin theories that Husk is actually Doctor Facilier after Princess and The Frog.
Well, that'd be better than this.
Oh my goodness! I didn't know... I love hazbin hotel
@fruitloops2058 I mean... The Princess and The Frog shows Dr. Facilier getting dragged to Hell
AND cats have important spiritual symbolism, lol
There's stuff there if you wanted to stretch a bit for it
Honestly I don’t rlly think anyone takes the theories too seriously 😂 it’s just fun to listen to ppl ranting about a topic they like
I enjoy the Theorizer because we know he's unhinged, HE KNOWS he's unhinged and it's all about going down the spiral, especially the Coraline and Mort vids.
Ive always thought that the other mother as a pennywise type thing feeding of children and we'll never truly understand what they are
Okay, I have schizophrenia and her descriptions of the illness and systems (which she DEFINITELY did a 2-minute good search, like didn't even read something as mediocre as a wedmd or wiki page on it) are so skewed it's borderline-offensive. She's mixing-and-matching symptoms from completely different types of schizophrenia, for a start. It's like saying someone has anxiety and then mashing together symptoms of panic attacks, health anxiety, social anxiety, OCD, a phobia etc.
Schizophrenics being "very aggressive toward others" is untrue and a harmful stereotype. Mentally ill people are far more likely to be VICTIMS of crime than to perpetrate one, and the overwhelming majority are neither violent nor aggressive.
The often being unable to distinguish hallucinations from reality are because they're extremely realistic and vivid and usually stuff that's POSSIBLE in reality. Before meds, I would have conversations with people I knew who weren't really there (but obviously COULD have been) or even scary stuff like bugs and spiders crawling around.
ANd she's "Very childlike" because she's ELEVEN.
The intense lack of motivation of also very closely related to extreme emotional flatness. Which she does NOT have. We often see her anxious, or scared or angry. ANd she's fully motivated to defeat the bad mother and save her parents in the end.
Uhh...so you're a coraline theorist theorist here, and you have your OWN coraline theories about the cat, and coming up with theories too...
UHH CZ? IS CZ A FAERIE TOO?!
Thank you for the "your name is watered down" reference. Made my day.
As long as at least one person got it!
The only Coraline theorist I follow is abitfrank. She is something of an expert on old fairy tales, which are very gruesome if anyone is interested, so I trust her judgement more than others since the author is busy lol. But I still thought she might've gone too far when she claimed the fog surrounding the pink palace might actually be trying to help the Beldam. Instead of, you know, being used for atmosphere in a freaky movie.
I remember that one. I thought it was more because of the timing and the entrances/exits the cat uses to get into and out of the other world?
These shouldn't be referred to as theories at all. They are just unsupported headcannons.
That's like every youtube theory mate. Stop taking it so serious.
The original people are the ones calling them theories
I like how the videos that are real world commentary are still framed under a sort of “narrative retelling.”
Tbh the theorizer gets way more intense. Ever heard of his Madagascar Mort theory?
Well, for The Theorizer that’s sort of normal to his usual crazy theories.
I love how Cz saw some of these theories and was like "you know what? Time to talk some shit."
1:00min in and i can already tell this is gonna be wild.
so the first chick has never met a real, live Cat?
i mean, they are better than you and
they know that they are better than you and
they know that you know that they know that they are better than you.
90% of the words you said started with a T
For real life.
This is correct.
cats can also teleport, this is a known fact of life. i’ll see my cat upstairs and then he’ll be downstairs without me seeing him come down. that’s just how cats are, they’re magical little freaks
@@dr.pepperbiggestfan
I can explain that. That's mostly tied to any containers holding food, be it bags, cans, whatever. Everyone should know that whenever you even touch one, they send psionic waves into the universe and these waves open little fissures, which are invisible to the human eye, for animals to go through and get treats from their humans. There, the truth is out.
23:58 The movie itself explains the white space, and it's Not because the other mother wants Coraline to think she's weaker than she actually is. "She only made what she Knew would impress you."
Didn't even know "Coraline Theorists" was a thing. After watching even just a couple of minutes of CZs video, I'm both intrigued and scared at the same time that people go so deep into this movie lol. Its pretty cool, actually. These Theorists look like they are dead fkn serious with this stuff.
Question: Never seen the movie or had the desire to. Is it worth a watch?
Edit: I welcome your suggestions and thoughts btw and I dont have a problem with your suggestions and thoughts. Im not judging the movie or anything, nor am I judging the Theorists.
😂 yeah I don't get people. Go all crazy about a cartoon movie with all these theories like they really actually care that much ooofff
Yes it is. Unless you're susceptible to nightmares.
Yes Coraline is worth the watch.
It's like how there's Sci-fi nrds and Star Wars Nerds, they're their own thing
Yes it is!! It's one of my favorite movies
I once googled who is the dead fairy in Coraline and I found a part of tmblr where a fan was asking Neil Gaiman whether that dead fairy was the Beldam 's mother. He said that the only time that fairy is mentioned is on chapter 12. In this chapter, Coraline has escaped and freed her parents and the ghost children, whom she dreams of later that night. One of the girls is described to have butterfly like wings. So, one would say that she is the fairy of the story and not the Beldam, a conclusion that can open the door to so many more theories. What I don 't understand is how this tip from Gaiman has managed to slip from practically everyone.
I have honestly only seen The Theorizer, love his crazy ramblings and the Coraline theories is how I found him, and he has always been obssesed with making the innocent or unremarkable characters the villain, recently he has found better examples, and also when he was making the Coraline theories he had this animated series of sorts going on oh his 2nd or third channel which was absolutley insane, it was made in stick figures but it was clearly deranged, and abitfrank who has great fairytale videos, everyone else I am unfamiliar with.
Kinda funny you made this because it was your Coraline videos that introduced me to your channel! It certainly opened me up to all your horror videos
I just finished reading "The Outsider" by Stephen King which involved a mythological creature called "El Cuco" and there was shape shifting and feeding off of misery and sadness.
Lol thought you were talking about The Outsiders
@@Star.Xupiddsame 😅
All of these are so much better than the people making videos where they insis their interpretations or their explanation of endings is "the correct one". Having a crazy interpretation of art rather than telling others how to view it is healthier and more creative.
“She is still stuck in the other world!” Can we just allow people to live happy lives😭
No apparently
It's very nice being told our 11 year old protagonist who won her happy ending is actually doomed.
Yippee.
that's the only one I kind of can see being true
I disagree with all these unhinged theories (as I should honestly) but the "the ending is not happy at all " theory is the one for which i strongly agree with. Sorry but for me it's true 😂
@@On_NbornThat literally flies in the face of Neil’s own words about the story from a Canadian BC interview about Coraline in light of the (at the time,) upcoming film release, in which he specifically states that the point is to show young people that bad things can be overcome, which by definition is contradicted by the frankly unhinged edge-lord film interpretation which states as if speaking objective fact and not a subjective hypothesis, that Coraline never escaped, using the 🐈⬛ as a piece of evidence alongside the parents being nicer/more attentive, as if a stressed couple with a child having that stress alleviated wouldn’t come across better than that same couple when under heavy stress due to financial issues, a move, work deadlines, and a recent hospitalisation due to a car accident.
I just saw a viewing of Coraline 15th Anniversary 3D yesterday at the local theater. Next day I wake up and check YT and all these theory videos are on my feed.
Coraline is one of my favorite movies of all time, and somehow I've managed to avoid insane theory nonsense for 15 years. I think every single one of you theorists owe me reparations.
OH BOY Are we whitnessing the CZ's Roast lol 5 min in and i already spilled my drink
Why are you roasting Random Critique. Ok if you don't her contents and theories , sure that is respectful but to call her unhinged etc. That is abit too much don't you think
I love theorizer. He’s just having fun
i personally always really enjoy the theorizer because his videos are so batshit insane that they are entertaining. and theres no way he actually believes the stuff his whole internet personality is that image of charlie day with the conspiracy board
Most of these aren’t even legit “theories.” They’re just people trying to put their two cents into something we already know almost everything about.
I think the best theory is that Bobinsky was in Chernobyl.
it wasnt a theory he was wearing a Chernobyl liquidator badge
Theory: The Beldam is actually an escaped nightmare, that Dream isn’t aware of. Think about it
Don’t think about it.
It does feel like Coraline could be set in the Sandman setting in some ways, but I can't imagine Gaiman wanting to scare kids with the idea of Coraline running into the Corinthian or Azazel or Desire. I kinda love the idea that Coraline grows up to be a Constantine type figure though, who could take on the Sandman universe.
@@topazpagoda it would be pretty dope to see Coraline join the Justice League
Totally agree with the absurdity but whats the harm? No need to yuck someone's yum
Maybe I’m biased here but it seems to me that this video is more unhinged then then coraline theory videos because these are videos that are made for fun yes they are over analyzing but I don’t think they are meant to be taken serious they are just some different ways to maybe look at the movie or some dumb interpretation of things in the movie but they are not claiming that what they say are a fact at when it comes to the theorizer as his videos are the only ones I’ve watched but this video seems more unhinged as czs started to make weird personal insults that didn’t seem necessary seeing as the theories themselves are enough to make fun of and these people are over analyzing things czs has decided that the people making them are saying these things like they are facts of the movie and not what they are which is fun theories that aren’t meant to be taken to seriously
Edit:it also seems like a bad faith interpretation of these videos that’s the main point
Agreed, he’s taking it too seriously
I like this video concept but you could have done it in an interesting way without being mean about it. You brought up the first girl’s appearance comments way too much. She’s a young girl leave her alone and focus on the dumb Coraline theories.
ABitFrank is actually an excellent theorist. She makes them enjoyable to listen to, almost like listening to a bedtime story. I don't find her theories too outlandish and actually within the bounds of the story while also bringing in other lore elements that lend their influence to the story. It's fun, and I learn new things about some lore I haven't before.
This. A bit disappointed he put her in his "unhinged theorists" video...
My new theory is coroline gets addicted to fent and starts tweaking on pine ave
Coraline sold me fentanyl once 😂😂
My boy theorizer made it into the video such an underrated channel
Our family loves this movie so much. when our oldest daughter was 18 months old this became her favorite movie and after watching it multiple times a day and when 6 months passed and I was to give birth to our second daughter it only felt appropriate to name her Coraline.
I love u but this was inecessarily mean 😂
These people are just trying to have fun and you was kind of mean about it, it's not important so why was you so unkind about it? It's not the end of the world, it's just a story :(
Yeah, no. You're just too much of a softie, like most of CZ's audience. These people are doing this for TWO and ONLY TWO reasons: FAME and PROFIT. Two things that, especially nowdays, will make a shallow enough person do anything for.
@@genkureshima9834 then don't stoop to their level
There's nothing wrong with being critical about theories. You have to be able to differentiate meaner humor and actually saying something rude
I had no idea how extreme some of them were. It’s insane. Abitfrank is good though she read the book and watched the movie several times. But the others are kinda like ehhhhhhh not good
A lot of this feels like you’re just hating. Sure the first two girls were outta of pocket. But with the theorizer, I don’t get why it’s wrong for him change his view on some. If he first thought cat was African American, why can’t he change his view on that if he starts seeing things differently?