Martyrs Review - Off The Shelf Reviews
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- This week Gary and Iain review and discuss, Martyrs (2008) by Director,
Pascal Laugier. Starring, Morjana Alaoui, Mylène Jampanoï and Catherine Bégin.
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Put this on round a gathering at my mates house. The silence was deafening.
Was never invited back 😂
😂😂😂 😮😮😮 😢😢😢
I put on a Serbian film, that really didn't go down very well...😂😂
The bit where she’s shows her the book of people who died but apparently refused to die when there photo was taken is scary
I know exactly how Gary feels. I remember watching it at Horrorthon in the Irish Film Institute when it was first released. I was haunted by it and I remember how quiet and ashen faced everyone was. Thankfully the organisers played Night of the Creeps directly afterwards - perfect antidote
This is a very intelligent movie. I mean,the ending can be interpreted in many ways: what did she say to the old lady? And what the old lady did in the end,did she do it to get ""there"" faster because the truth sort of liberated her or did she do it because she could not continue living with the horrible truth? Very interesting.What is the meaning of suffering? Does it lead to any conclusion? Is it pointless ?
I recall reading a very clever observation that the fact we debate what she said more than anything else, makes us not much different than the cult. The thing that should be at the front of our minds is the relentless torture and degradation of a captive human being for a extremely spurious aim.
@@nickparton5663oh shit, didn't think about that, but that's really clever
One of my absolute favorites, though the last time I recommended it to someone they were genuinely angry with me afterwards.
Yep. Plenty of friends gave me a look like I had slapped them in the face, after lending this film to them 😂
This director did another film called ""Ghostland"" in which he sort of revisited the same subject matter,he tried to show us the mind of a tortured person.A very disturbing film as well.
Just watched it due to this comment 👀 That's some messed up tense shit 😂
It's a very good movie, thanks. Not as gorry as Martyrs though.
Ahhh! A Lovecraftian ending - now THAT makes sense! Thanks guys!
Awesome review as always guys! THE Quintessential "WTF!?! film from my Blockbuster days. The looks customers gave upon returning the film 😂
A movie I have no intention of ever watching. Thank you for the summary.
While this movie has gruesome violence and visuals, the director did a good job building a good reason and concept behind it, indeed many things are up to your imagination and interpretation, and the things you don't know or are unexplained is what makes the movie more frightening
Possibly the most harrowing film I've seen. My gf at the time put it on to watch when we had friends over and it was the two males that broke down in tears and implored her to turn it off. 😱
I remember watching Martyrs twice upon it's release.
It's stuck with me for a long time. It was very impressive, yet devastating.
Unlike many other so called torture porn and shocker flicks from that period, it's really good film in general.
Since many years I intended to do the rewatch, but older I got, more real life stresses I faced, and less desire I had for experience like Martyrs.
Few months ago I went through a break up after being in a relationship for almost 16 years.
I thougt it's a good moment for revisiting Martyrs, I feel like sh*t anyway.
It still holds up very well.
Knowing all the plot twists it's not as engaing as it was before though.
Also there are some very 00s exthetics to it, that I am not a fan of.
But it's a very good movie regardless.
Cheers guys
A new great review guys! Thank you! 👍
French FML Triple feature night:
High Tension, Frontier(s), and Martyrs.
I was watching all these movies as they came out during and after my highschool years, probably not healthy viewing habits.
@2:00 Good films are not to watch while eating pizza and laugh with friends, rather those that you watch once and scarring you for life, that you don't even need to rewatch, since every scene is burned in your mind forever ;)
I love horror movies. Watched this in my uni years. Slept bad for a week. Haven't seen such an impactful movie since. 10/10 💀
I saw this movie four years ago and am STILL disturbed by it. The subject matter is what truly haunts you long afterwards.
Anybody know were he got the Evil Dead shirt form?
Wow... I stopped watching the review at about 18 minutes because I've never heard of it and my interest was piqued enough that I didn't want anymore real spoilers. Skipped ahead to the recommendation portion and I'm still interested but thoroughly convinced I should wait because I know I'm probably* not in a healthy enough mental state at the moment, lol!
Wait till you guys get to “Les Yeux sans visage” (1960).
That's is one of my favorite Billy Idol songs.
Why, thank you for reviving my nightmarish memories that I so carefully buried with hard work. I've been recommending this film to people for years while making it clear that I will NEVER in my life watch it again.
@21:55 half the way into the review and the film, while the true horror has not even started :D
Thank you for this one.
@13:15 Indeed Society was the PG-13 version of Martyrs :D
I wouldn't consider Martyrs torture porn. (Nor any of the New French Extremity films.) They're intellectual or philosophical horror -- extremity in service of an important idea. I like your idea of a Lovecraftian revelation behind this one, guys!
Martyrs is a well made & good movie. Obviously quite polarizing, intense & extreme, still it's well acted with very good practical SFX. In some ways it has a John Carpenter style ambiguous ending. It is not for all movie goers to watch, but horror fans will appreciate the effort put in to the making of this experience. One of the better " torture porn" of the late 2000s.
The guy who created the extraordinary makup and prosthetics is Benoît Lestang - a genius. Apparently the shooting was a nightmare. Benoît Lestang was working non stop,18 hours a day.
Benoît Lestang committed suicide in April 2008, a few months after the end of production. His suicide is most likely unrelated to Martyrs, but it could have been a contributing factor (watching Martyrs is already depressing, it must have been traumatising to work on it for weeks...).
Make sure you avoid the American remake. It really is abysmal.
Unanimously the Worst Remake by a complete landslide
Even from reading its description I can tell it doesn't hold up to the original, I had no idea it even existed until the comment section lol
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Oh boy this is the review Gary was “looking forward to”…….. I have never watched this film before but when Gary mentioned it was coming up I did an Iain and wiki’ed it and thought “Yyyeeeaaahhhhh imma skip it”. And this is one film I’m not going to purchase after the review. Anyway Amazing review guys 👊👊👊👊👊👊
😂😂 same here
Yes! I f#cking love this film. I'm pretty sure me heart stopped twice watching this movie and I never knew where the plot was gonna go next.
My biggest plot hole for this movie besides the obvious one of the girl staying in the house after seeing it's a torture dungeon... I'm in really why would you even stay in the house after you seen your friend killed everyone?
But anyway...
The biggest plot hole is these people think that afterlife is real but are still willing to torture people to death?!?!
So the at least like pretty dang confident that the concept of heaven and hell are real.
Confident enough to spend millions of dollars in years and years and years to achieve this goal.
But they're not confident enough to be afraid of going to hell for torturing people to death?!
First point is legitimate. Second, many people in belief regarding God breaks His precepts and commandments everyday. Despite believing in Heaven and Hell. What make you think individuals in this organisation are even sane, clearly offshoot Christian group.
Its been a few years since i rewatched and I feel like the son gave some slight impression that he did. I could be thinking of anothrr movie but i feel like they did.
40:00 because continuing to live knowing that what she had done was useless would be too painful
Nice shirt, Gary! 👊
Cheers 👊
@@OffTheShelfReviews I've seen this movie too...and I also don't want to watch it again.
If I did, just watching this review would be enough imagery to remind me that I really didn't.
I remember watching this in 2008 or 2009 and it messed me up for a few days
shelf life! ❤
the only movie i had to take a break in the middle, came back for the even worse half. just brutal, man.
I have the same feeling towards all the movie reviews..it's a masterpiece...Martyrs..where do we even start?
This is definitely the most horrific and dam right horrible movie experience I’ve ever had and will definitely never watch again. If there are people out there that like this sort of stuff then they’re extremely disturbed. I can only imagine how screwed up the people who made this are.
Yes shelfers!
I've only ever seen this once, yet it's one of those sort of movies that once watched it's never ever forgotten, even for die hard horror fanatics like myself it's a gruelling experience to sit through. I've never seen the remake, but I've heard it's watered down trash.
This movie seems good, but hard to watch indeed. I'll watch with caution. Good Review guys! KEEP IT UP!
one of the best horror films ever made.
Hi guys great review.
Could you do a review for switchblade romance please. I would live to hear your views on that.
This film is a masterpiece. In fact, it was the first DVD I have purchased in a few decades. Amazing! Always a treat when you guys upload, much love from York x
ETA: I believe that Anna told Mademoiselle that there was nothing, so when she tells Etienne to keep doubting and doing herself in, she knows that all the faith she had in Martyrs somehow having an insight into what comes after death was all for nought, and she tortured all those girls for no reason. So she takes off all her finery (finery that she will not need as there is no afterlife, so it's pointless wearing it), and puts the gun in her mouth.
This is my nomination for the quintessential video nasty. But it's better than that since many of those films were very poorly made. This film would have been traded around on VHS back in the day.
I dont get how people say that its open to interpretation. Seems rather open n shut.
Girl gives lady answer.
Lady either didnt like the answer finding everything she did meaningless. She says "keep doubting" so clearly its nothing good.
yeah I watched this movie once. That's enough for this guy.
I went into this movie totally blind long ago and it stuck with me.
Id say it belongs on my top 100 horror movies to see list.
How did the same dude that made this make The Tall Man? It sucked. Maybe he wouldnt have been the guy for hellraiser or at least you'd want to check out that he is right depressed before making a Hellraiser.
Saw this movie years ago. It's amazing. I will never watch it again though
@3:15 Nooooo!!!! Why did the director got over his depression, and humanity lost its opportunity to experience a potentially third decent Clive Barker adaptation on screen :(
You realise he only didn't do a Hellraisee film because the people looking for a director wanted a teen horror movie style Hellraisee film and he refused? It had nothing to do with his depression
Thank you guys... er, I think.
They did remake this movie but it was not as good as the original
I had no idea a remake was done, read its synopsis...it's definitely nowhere close to the original. Granted the makers of the 2015 one admitted they didn't want to go as far as the original did, but then you have to wonder what was the point?
@14:35 The presenters are too young to remember that in elder times we could call back "payphones" across europe and I believe in little england and the states too. It was a way to coordinate meetings back in distant 90s before every kid could burn their brain cells with cell phones ;)
I think that they ( the children ) did know. Because you're not just introduced to a cult like that..... You're raised in it
That's the issue i have with this movie, the ending. Did she tell her something so horrible that she decided to end herserlf? if so, wouldn't you want to be alive as long as possible instead?
If she told her something so beautiful, it would be a bit more logical to go on and end yourself to be in that place faster, but then if it was something beautiful why would she be so selfish to take the secret from her loyal cult? It's a contradiction beacuse even if it was something beautiful, the expressions of the cult leader were more inclined to fear than joy or excitement. It's a contradiction because if she told her the afterlife was something horrible, then you wouldn't speed your own death. That's the reason i avoid this movie because it's awesome, but the pay off is a slap on my face telling me that all my time and emotions invested on these characters and story were useless.
Always been too scared to watch martyrs I once watched the original I spit on your grave thinking it was a slasher type movie and it emotionally drained me so this movie would probably end me
If people like this fine, but I thought it was pretentious bollocks.
I can't bring myself to watch this film, I'm over all the torture porn movies. The concept is intriguing though.
Those photos of are real tortured victims. Movie is great French cinema. This was Europe torture porn movies that came out during that decade. Seen Serbian Film?
She could have lied to her at the end...
That ending man!
Hello mum and dad ❤
in my top 5 movies of all time...But sure i wont want to watch ever again ( i mean to see it a fourth time)
I fist watched this on the horror channel one of me fave movies but the violence towards women man 😢
*Turn Up*
Good f*cking movie!
Definitely one of those movies you watch the once 🥺
In some ways, the movie is based on true stories, as various aristocratic nasties of the past would privately torture subjects, for example Elizabeth Bathory. Filming this, however, is perverse.
Dude's ill be honest... I was high key not wanting to watch this review lol. This, Salo and Serbian film and im done for. But always like hearing you guys talk so I'll stomach it. Martyrs is one of those movies where it makes you feel like you went trough an actual traumatizing stage of life 😐.
Ooh you du the funniest movies😁
Now tried four times to watch this, never made it.
Thanks for reviewing this one guys.
I love the first 2 Hostel movies, and all the Saw movies (apart from the Final Chapter). So when a few years back people warned me about Martyrs I thought, "I've been watching f****d up movies for over 50 years now. How bad can it be?". And unfortunately I found out that it can be pretty damn bad!
Having said all that, I would recommend Martyrs as it's definitely an important movie, and one that's very well made and needs to be watched. But only once. I'm glad I saw this movie, but I will never, ever, EVER, watch it again.
Communists are worse than Nazis.
Wonderful after watching this, nobody will want to see the goddamn film lol (kidding..sorta) No this film isn't for everyone esp the timid or the Saw and Terrifier nitwits who's main exclaim is "Hey look at that!'. The film has a level of realistic brutality not often seen (unless stylized to the point of inertia in Hollyweird) but it's wince inducing not alienating. The director wisely chose two characters Anna and Lucie for the audience to identify with then expanded the horror to be discovered around them. It's a potent and at times heartbreaking watch that the leads convey in every frame they are in (and that's all of them) We know them and nothing else. Just like Anna we have no idea what the f@ck is going on or the reasoning behind Lucie's bloody rampage. And finally just like Anna our level of dread and final realization we are trapped with no hope of escape is beyond comprehension. That's Laugier's genius of leading us exactly where we did not want to go but just like Mademoiselle, we just had to know. An A+ movie, a difficult watch but with more going on upstairs than the next 50 Blumhouse releases combined. Great review fellas, always a pleasure (have you ever watched or did a review of A' I'int'erieur aka Inside?)
Eh. This guy is too gory and violent to tackle a family-friendly franchise like Hellraiser.
This is one of the few movies I wish I could unwatch.
I don't want to see this movie or it's US remake ever. Too much torture porn.
I know enough and have a horrible feeling about this movie based on this review alone. Im ok not to see it i think
It's a must watch. The best horror movie that I've ever seen, and the most disturbing (in an intelligent way) too.
Did you watch the unrated version?
I'm pretty sure we did
Lets just assume they did so they don't have to watch it a 3rd time for their sakes 😂
Alright a new rev . . .
Oh 😮
Heard many good things about this but call me a massive pussy . . . I ain’t ever gonna watch it.
Never liked the French extreme stuff. Switchblade Romance and Irreversible turned my stomach.
Good luck 🫣
Yeh… I’d thankfully forgotten about this movie but damn.!!.. I see you reviewing this and it Definetly brought back horrible thoughts. I’d like to say I REALLY dislike your patreon for suggesting this movie.!!!.. not cool…
So yeh, it’s an amazing horror movie but I wish to erase it from my mind and never think of it again….. so Thankyou for your review.!!.. but I’m goning to try to forget all this. 🫣