Everything you said made good sense to me and coincides with my experience as well. Too many you tubers have been commercialized and only interested in $$$. Your tips and advices are genuine. Thank you.
Glad I found this. I have just received three tiny own root roses and I have potted them up into slightly larger pots. After watching this, I will not be in too much a hurry to plant and will probably pot them on again before planting out. Patience.
Been watching you for a year, now putting in my first roses (Red Oklahoma hybrid tea, grafted and rooted.). Here in the Central Valley of Northern California roses grow like weeds, loving the bruising heat and fertile clay soil. So this video saved me a ton of work. *_Why shouldn't I dig a small hole and let the roses establish in the native soul?!!_* Your science mind really works for me, I'm a scientist myself. All around this Valley one sees happy decades-old roses, and it's obvious they love the native soil. I'm elderly && can't dig very well, BUT the only way I've ever planted is to dig a larger hole and mix the native soil with amendments. *_I never thought I'd dig a hole the size of the pot and slide the ROSE straight into the ground, only you have earned my trust to convince me that such a course of action is not only the easiest but also the best!!_* I'm a huge fan of yours, you've become one of my best friends, I love being your audience while you geek out about so many fun topics.
Potting up is a wise idea. I wish I had done that for a stronger, bigger 🌹 bush less likely to be easily dug up by over enthusiastic squirrels 🐿😐. Appreciated your explanation about why amendments at the time of planting are inadvisable for several reasons. Thanks!
Great video! I have been wondering when to plant my rooted cuttings in the ground and you have answered my questions! Thank you! I agree about the amendment of the soil when planting, in my experience you are absolutely right. Unless the soil has way too much clay I do not add anything and certainly not the fertilizer many gardeners advertise. Unfortunately they do it because they are getting paid by fertilizer companies. I am not buying into their promise of faster root development because of the added fertilizer. In my opinion extra fertilizer makes a plant very tall and weak, and often it is unable to support its large blooms or it flops. If you build healthy soil there is enough nutrients and your plant will be healthy and strong anyway. My 5 cents 😆
Excellent video. I recently took a gardening class and learned not to add compost when planting and just use native soil. Much better to get roots started. 👍🏻
I know nothing about roses. For years I have purchased those cheap "bag" rose bushes that sell in big box stores for about $6.00. Some live, some die, some winter over, some don't. Amazingly I've done pretty well for a novice, and after watching your videos I have learned I've been doing a lot of thing right! Your videos have also filled the gaps in my knowledge and I've learned of quite a few things I've been doing wrong. So I've amended my behavior and my care of my rose bushes, so hopefully next year is going to be my BIG YEAR for rose flowers. I have several roses in bloom right now which makes me happy!
Thanks Sally - happy to hear about your success with roses, and nice to hear that from a beginner. Too many people seem intimidated by roses, but I hope we can shake that reputation problem!
I can't argue with your planting logic. I always wondered when putting the nutrient soil/fertilizer in the bottom of the plant hole if when watered it would just wash down into the soil away from the roots. That's why I think putting these things on the surface so they can drip down would be more effective.
I have also had good luck planting the crown a little deeper on certain plants up here in Michigan because we get some pretty hard freezes. And some plants seem to push the crown up to the surface but still have a bit of fallback material that is buried for particularly harsh years. Mulching and using leaves to cover some of the more tender plants also gives them a better chance at surviving via insulation.
What a well done informative video! Thank you so much.. I know so much more now 🙂 I had just those questions and your instructions on how to plant it were easy to see. 👍
Thank you for the common sense approach to planting. It is very difficult to dig a 2'x2' hole at the best of times and when you know that what is beneath all your hard work is hard pan or clay, I like the idea of just planting the pot size.
I like your Keep It Simple approach to this topic. Your reasoning for your way seems perfectly sound. I hate it when people try to make things overly complicated when they really need not be that way.Love your videos and have subscribed. Will go looking hoping to find some pruning advice from you as I have inherited an overgrown climbing rose (unknown variety) that is in desperate need of taming. Thanks so much for sharing, much appreciated. : ) ( I live in the Campbell River area of Vancouver Island)
I use your approach . A mentor , Baldo Vanegas always put his amendments on top of the soil and told me let the worms and microbes do the work work of mixing and aeration .
This is absolutely fantastic. Makes so much sense, too. We're in the Foothills of The Appalachians here in NC, stuff grows like crazy. I'll have about 10 bare-root own roots to plant this Spring, going to do it this way. Clay soil here, but it breaks up to small crumbles very easily. I will try the 10 or so one gallons I will be planting this way, too. So much easier. I can always give them a 2-5 gallon shot of rose or tomato Miracle-Gro once a month....probably mix it 1/2 strength - rather they get used to what's in the soil already. They'll have 7-8 months of great weather to really get a foothold in the foothills!
Awesome growinar! I like to bury up to the bottom lateral branches, 1 to 3 16th above the internode space(zone of elongation). Score any plant parts that are submerged underground, rooting hormone on scored areas. This has helped for all species of plants. Zone 5 Not necessarily the right way, Just my way! Great video Bigdog!💪🐐
Thanks so much,that was very informational,if that's a word. I too like the hole just big enough for the roots. You here it all the time dig the hole twice as the roots ball more like twice the work. Thanks again. Big Fan
I'm prone to mix a little, but not much, compost and maybe a little manure with the soil that I dug out of the hole. It makes sure that hole can be refilled. Not a lot. Never more than 5% because I want the soil to pretty much remain the same as surroundings. My main reason is that it is glacial till (clay and rocks and in lucky parts of the yard, sand) and bereft of organic matter. I do heavily top fertilize after a water them in and mulch with wood chips. Over time, this yard is becoming fertile with organic matter but it's taken a few years. I am just now getting into planting roses so I'm not starting from scratch. My first planted roses from a decade ago aren't doing well because of bad soil. Some I grew in a pot for a few years are happy to be in the ground this year (even the Doctor Huey which I will allow to grow as it's own rose). One of my original planted roses is something orange that just bloomed. I lost the tags a a dozen years ago so I have no idea what she is. I cloned her this year. I bought a few roses and I am cloning them. (I believe they are are legal.) I'm going to keep grafts separate in the garden. I also have a few clones from friends or found mystery pieces from floors in stores. Next year I'm ordering from High Country. The house here had some roses growing when my girlfriend of 25 years purchased it. I think they are Knock Outs but I'm not sure at all. The City records photos from 1958 when it was built had some roses. I'm doubt these are the same. These bloom from February to December in hard years and never stop blooming in good Seattle years. Don't even really need any care. Not very fancy but they are prolific. They amaze me. I also have some old garden pink climbers that I had to move this year because they were eating the house. I don't recall where I got these clones. Had them in pots for decades. Not 7 sisters (which I just bought because my wife/girlfriend/nemesis's grandma had them growing on a chain link fence in Detroit. I am putting them an one side of an arbor which will have Campsis radicans (Orange trumpet) on the other side. Spring and fall blooms.
Thanks for sharing your notes on planting! I see no issue with putting in a small amount of organic matter at the time of planting - but I'm always cautious about advising it, because so many gardeners seems to go for the "if a little is good, than more is better" mentality, and loads of compost in the planting hole can undermine stability and cause other issues. Of course it's always okay to add more organic matter later at the surface as a topdress. I'd love to be able to get roses from High Country - and I hear they ship to Canada once a year, but I've never been able to nail the timing.
Thank you so much for sharing your insights. This video mentions something that seems to differ from advice I've received before (which, you know, not a big surprise--lots of different opinions out there!). But I'm new to roses and just bought my first ever roses, which came in the mail in quart-sized pots. They were own root roses. I asked a Facebook rose group if I should leave them in the pots for a time (or up-pot them, as you say) or stick them straight in the ground. The response was overwhelmingly to plant them in the ground immediately. I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on dealing with these small own root sizes in the spring. They were potted plants, not bare root. And they seem to be struggling a bit. TIA!
Hi David - thanks, and of course it is a lot of different opinions. All based on personal experience (including my own). I've had very good luck going into the ground with own-roots if they're well rooted and vigorously growing in a 1 gallon or 2 gallon pot. If they're small (quart size or similar) or they're struggling a bit, I don't like their chances directly in the ground. Last year I got a little ahead of myself and took some smaller roses straight into the field - then we had a stretch of super hot weather, and it lost me one of my new roses. I'm quite sure that it would have been better off in a larger pot for the duration, and then I could have planted the larger more established rose in fall. Live and learn! There's no definite rule about it, but the larger and stronger the root system at the time of planting will make them more resilient to stressful conditions.
I just planted the 1st of my (12) sale roses, Elina. I plan to plant the others tomorrow. We are still having a drought so the deer at Hollyhock leaves although rusted, lol, Hosta of course, and Sunn Hemp my legume cover crop. Sunn Hemp has such beautiful leaves. I planted some in my South garden behind a fence! I used a snug hole when I planted Elina. I will put some coffee grounds on top to protect the graft. Your lilac colored Rose of Sharon behind you is beautiful. I suspect you've been dealing w/ the drought too.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I don't see any forecasted:-( We'll probably get a few drops .You know:-) I've been waiting for my Black Mollies to have babies for a week now, notheing:-) One had (4) living and (3) not living from PetSmart. I lost all (3) and had to get replacements, smh. I treated them for a week w/ SeaChem of Atlanta's Paraguard. So far so good. I've got (2) expecting since I got the new ones. I love Black Mollies. They're from Mexico. I am hoping to have some to sell on Craigslist for the upcoming holidays. I went on a job interview the other day. I sure hope I get it. I interviewed well of course but my resume is junk:-( I was too honest on all my previous jobs:-)
I enjoy your videos very much. But I must admit, I'm a bit confused from the beginning of the video. You mentioned about an own root rose, and potting it up into a somewhat larger pot, before planted into the ground. And this is especially important if it's right around late summer and early Autumn, before the plant can get established. But then where are you supposed to do with this pot? Are you supposed to take this into the house and grow it as a houseplant? Or are you supposed to take this newly potted plant and repot it yet again in the garden? If so, what's the point of that? Better to go right into the ground. I have an own root Rose which i just bought online and it's looking pretty spindly. And I would like to give it a chance to establish itself before winter. I live in zone 5. So what would you recommend Sir?
Our soil is sandy and I have seen unamended plants sit there and do nothing while amended ones thrive. Similar experiences with heavy clay down south. But if the dirt is hummusy you probably don't need to amend.
Thanks Phillip. I'll beg a difference here: I definitely amend my soil, but I do it from the top down to the entire planting area rather than just in the planting hole immediately around the new roots of the rose.
Hi Jason, for own root roses , if we plant it at a deeper level, won’t the new crown become where it’s coming into contact with soil ? I understand there’s a fixed crown for grafted roses (bud union) but for own root roses, the crown seems non existent as it depends on your depth of planting. Please clarify.
Hi Shravani - please bear with me - because I think I know what you're asking, but it'll take me a sec to get there. Even on an own root rose, there's a natural crown. It's the division between the part that grows upwards as stems, and what grows downward as roots. My preference is to plant or transplant the existing crown at approximately soil level - because it's given me consistently good results. Imagine that at the time of transplanting a large, well-branched rose, you washed off all the soil and bare-rooted your rose. Then, if you planted it with 8" of roots above the soil line, where would the crown be? At the soil line, or 8" above it, where the plant begins to have canes? Likewise, at least initially, if you bury the crown by 8", the multiple stems emerging at ground level do not immediately become the crown (or *crowns* I guess, because there's likely to be more than one stem). I suppose what you're saying, though, is that the buried portions of the stems could eventually root below the soil, and shoot above it, becoming the equivalent (collectively) of a crown. I'm not sure that's a safe bet with all varieties. I've definitely lost an own-root rose or two in the landscape after deep planting - crown rot? Not sure, but they did blacken from the base. I've also transplanted (some) deeply planted own-root roses and found no sign of additional rooting on the buried portions of the stem above the original crown. I haven't done much experimentation on it, though, and your experience is as valid as mine.
Hi Doris. We're a USDA zone 8 here, so relatively mild owing to our coastal location. I back off the feeding and pruning in late summer, but offer no additional wrapping/covering in the field. My potted roses in the greenhouse go dormant (eventually, and with a little help pruning and stripping old leaves) - I hold them a bit on the dry side, but still have to water occasionally as they dry out. Here's a vid I did on overwintering - not sure if you saw it: ruclips.net/video/tPU6UOSVSBE/видео.html
Hi Fraser. I've taken cuttings of a few roses which I've been keeping in a greenhouse for a little while, to avoid rot from weeks of rain. My question is whether I should cut off any new growth until spring? Ps: I'm going to copy this post to your cutting video but do only answer it once.
I agree, but because the planting directions were SO specific when I received my own root rose and because I was afraid of voiding the year warranty if I didn’t follow them, I felt like there wasn’t a choice... I guess they have to protect themselves from the absolute worst planting habits out there.
Hi Pamela. Brown or black tissue. Soft or mushy tissue. It's a general term, and could be caused by a large number of different pathogens. It's a lot like root rot, and just differs in the location. The rot can begin low down on a stem, and progress into the crown. If you catch it early, you can remove the affected tissue to give the plant a chance to recover. Good air circulation is often helpful. Fungicide is another option.
Hi Jason, please may i ask if you have any opinions or rules for planting own root roses in containers, especially in regards to multiple single type roses in one container. I ask this question due to the fact l think I heard you say in a previous video that roses don't like to compete for food. Some other rose growers have suggested this is a good idea if you a striving for a more full and compact display. They appear to be saying a single rose would not be vagarous enough to spread and support many blooms. Obviously this would depend a lot on the type of rose chosen for the container size
Everything you said made good sense to me and coincides with my experience as well. Too many you tubers have been commercialized and only interested in $$$. Your tips and advices are genuine. Thank you.
Totally agree with you😊
This is how I plant them! Glad I have been doing it right! My roses thrive!
Glad I found this. I have just received three tiny own root roses and I have potted them up into slightly larger pots. After watching this, I will not be in too much a hurry to plant and will probably pot them on again before planting out. Patience.
Been watching you for a year, now putting in my first roses (Red Oklahoma hybrid tea, grafted and rooted.). Here in the Central Valley of Northern California roses grow like weeds, loving the bruising heat and fertile clay soil. So this video saved me a ton of work. *_Why shouldn't I dig a small hole and let the roses establish in the native soul?!!_*
Your science mind really works for me, I'm a scientist myself. All around this Valley one sees happy decades-old roses, and it's obvious they love the native soil. I'm elderly && can't dig very well, BUT the only way I've ever planted is to dig a larger hole and mix the native soil with amendments.
*_I never thought I'd dig a hole the size of the pot and slide the ROSE straight into the ground, only you have earned my trust to convince me that such a course of action is not only the easiest but also the best!!_*
I'm a huge fan of yours, you've become one of my best friends, I love being your audience while you geek out about so many fun topics.
Thanks so much for the encouragement!
Potting up is a wise idea. I wish I had done that for a stronger, bigger 🌹 bush less likely to be easily dug up by over enthusiastic squirrels 🐿😐.
Appreciated your explanation about why amendments at the time of planting are inadvisable for several reasons. Thanks!
Great video! I have been wondering when to plant my rooted cuttings in the ground and you have answered my questions! Thank you! I agree about the amendment of the soil when planting, in my experience you are absolutely right. Unless the soil has way too much clay I do not add anything and certainly not the fertilizer many gardeners advertise. Unfortunately they do it because they are getting paid by fertilizer companies. I am not buying into their promise of faster root development because of the added fertilizer. In my opinion extra fertilizer makes a plant very tall and weak, and often it is unable to support its large blooms or it flops. If you build healthy soil there is enough nutrients and your plant will be healthy and strong anyway. My 5 cents 😆
Thanks!
Excellent video. I recently took a gardening class and learned not to add compost when planting and just use native soil. Much better to get roots started. 👍🏻
That's one helluva mustache! Nice!
I know nothing about roses. For years I have purchased those cheap "bag" rose bushes that sell in big box stores for about $6.00. Some live, some die, some winter over, some don't. Amazingly I've done pretty well for a novice, and after watching your videos I have learned I've been doing a lot of thing right! Your videos have also filled the gaps in my knowledge and I've learned of quite a few things I've been doing wrong. So I've amended my behavior and my care of my rose bushes, so hopefully next year is going to be my BIG YEAR for rose flowers. I have several roses in bloom right now which makes me happy!
Thanks Sally - happy to hear about your success with roses, and nice to hear that from a beginner. Too many people seem intimidated by roses, but I hope we can shake that reputation problem!
Good one to watch. Thanks
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I can't argue with your planting logic. I always wondered when putting the nutrient soil/fertilizer in the bottom of the plant hole if when watered it would just wash down into the soil away from the roots. That's why I think putting these things on the surface so they can drip down would be more effective.
I have also had good luck planting the crown a little deeper on certain plants up here in Michigan because we get some pretty hard freezes. And some plants seem to push the crown up to the surface but still have a bit of fallback material that is buried for particularly harsh years. Mulching and using leaves to cover some of the more tender plants also gives them a better chance at surviving via insulation.
Thanks Phillip!
Always enjoy & learn from your videos , thank you !
Wonderful tips! Thanks for this video!
What a well done informative video! Thank you so much.. I know so much more now 🙂 I had just those questions and your instructions on how to plant it were easy to see. 👍
Thank you for the common sense approach to planting. It is very difficult to dig a 2'x2' hole at the best of times and when you know that what is beneath all your hard work is hard pan or clay, I like the idea of just planting the pot size.
I like your Keep It Simple approach to this topic. Your reasoning for your way seems perfectly sound. I hate it when people try to make things overly complicated when they really need not be that way.Love your videos and have subscribed. Will go looking hoping to find some pruning advice from you as I have inherited an overgrown climbing rose (unknown variety) that is in desperate need of taming. Thanks so much for sharing, much appreciated. : ) ( I live in the Campbell River area of Vancouver Island)
My pleasure. I'm up to see the garden club on Quadra in February, so I'll get to see your end of the island!
Thank you for sharing your expertise
I use your approach . A mentor , Baldo Vanegas always put his amendments on top of the soil and told me let the worms and microbes do the work work of mixing and aeration .
This is absolutely fantastic. Makes so much sense, too. We're in the Foothills of The Appalachians here in NC, stuff grows like crazy. I'll have about 10 bare-root own roots to plant this Spring, going to do it this way. Clay soil here, but it breaks up to small crumbles very easily. I will try the 10 or so one gallons I will be planting this way, too. So much easier. I can always give them a 2-5 gallon shot of rose or tomato Miracle-Gro once a month....probably mix it 1/2 strength - rather they get used to what's in the soil already. They'll have 7-8 months of great weather to really get a foothold in the foothills!
Thanks Jay. Sounds like a wonderful growing climate. Beautiful country too - my wife and I visited (far too briefly) on our honeymoon years ago.
I have listened and learned from you will now put into practice and build up my own personal experience thank you for the help
I agree with you Jason. Best way to plant a rose
Makes so much sense. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
Awesome growinar!
I like to bury up to the bottom lateral branches, 1 to 3 16th above the internode space(zone of elongation). Score any plant parts that are submerged underground, rooting hormone on scored areas. This has helped for all species of plants. Zone 5
Not necessarily the right way, Just my way! Great video Bigdog!💪🐐
Thanks Donald. Always nice to hear what others people are succeeding with!
Thanks for the response. Love your channel.
Thanks so much,that was very informational,if that's a word.
I too like the hole just big enough for the roots. You here it all the time dig the hole twice as the roots ball more like twice the work.
Thanks again. Big Fan
My pleasure. Thanks for the encouragement.
Wow - what a great video.
Root rock I've discovered is a huge problem - I'm preparing wind breaks now to amend this for the coming winter.
Good idea!
I'm prone to mix a little, but not much, compost and maybe a little manure with the soil that I dug out of the hole. It makes sure that hole can be refilled. Not a lot. Never more than 5% because I want the soil to pretty much remain the same as surroundings. My main reason is that it is glacial till (clay and rocks and in lucky parts of the yard, sand) and bereft of organic matter. I do heavily top fertilize after a water them in and mulch with wood chips. Over time, this yard is becoming fertile with organic matter but it's taken a few years. I am just now getting into planting roses so I'm not starting from scratch.
My first planted roses from a decade ago aren't doing well because of bad soil. Some I grew in a pot for a few years are happy to be in the ground this year (even the Doctor Huey which I will allow to grow as it's own rose). One of my original planted roses is something orange that just bloomed. I lost the tags a a dozen years ago so I have no idea what she is. I cloned her this year.
I bought a few roses and I am cloning them. (I believe they are are legal.) I'm going to keep grafts separate in the garden. I also have a few clones from friends or found mystery pieces from floors in stores. Next year I'm ordering from High Country.
The house here had some roses growing when my girlfriend of 25 years purchased it. I think they are Knock Outs but I'm not sure at all. The City records photos from 1958 when it was built had some roses. I'm doubt these are the same. These bloom from February to December in hard years and never stop blooming in good Seattle years. Don't even really need any care. Not very fancy but they are prolific. They amaze me.
I also have some old garden pink climbers that I had to move this year because they were eating the house. I don't recall where I got these clones. Had them in pots for decades. Not 7 sisters (which I just bought because my wife/girlfriend/nemesis's grandma had them growing on a chain link fence in Detroit. I am putting them an one side of an arbor which will have Campsis radicans (Orange trumpet) on the other side. Spring and fall blooms.
Thanks for sharing your notes on planting! I see no issue with putting in a small amount of organic matter at the time of planting - but I'm always cautious about advising it, because so many gardeners seems to go for the "if a little is good, than more is better" mentality, and loads of compost in the planting hole can undermine stability and cause other issues. Of course it's always okay to add more organic matter later at the surface as a topdress. I'd love to be able to get roses from High Country - and I hear they ship to Canada once a year, but I've never been able to nail the timing.
Very informative. Thanks!
You make sense, thank you!
Thank you I am learning
My pleasure. I'm glad you found it helpful.
Thank you so much for sharing your insights. This video mentions something that seems to differ from advice I've received before (which, you know, not a big surprise--lots of different opinions out there!). But I'm new to roses and just bought my first ever roses, which came in the mail in quart-sized pots. They were own root roses. I asked a Facebook rose group if I should leave them in the pots for a time (or up-pot them, as you say) or stick them straight in the ground. The response was overwhelmingly to plant them in the ground immediately. I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on dealing with these small own root sizes in the spring. They were potted plants, not bare root. And they seem to be struggling a bit. TIA!
Hi David - thanks, and of course it is a lot of different opinions. All based on personal experience (including my own). I've had very good luck going into the ground with own-roots if they're well rooted and vigorously growing in a 1 gallon or 2 gallon pot. If they're small (quart size or similar) or they're struggling a bit, I don't like their chances directly in the ground. Last year I got a little ahead of myself and took some smaller roses straight into the field - then we had a stretch of super hot weather, and it lost me one of my new roses. I'm quite sure that it would have been better off in a larger pot for the duration, and then I could have planted the larger more established rose in fall. Live and learn! There's no definite rule about it, but the larger and stronger the root system at the time of planting will make them more resilient to stressful conditions.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you, yet again. You are a class act to so thoroughly share your knowledge with all of us.
I just planted the 1st of my (12) sale roses, Elina. I plan to plant the others tomorrow. We are still having a drought so the deer at Hollyhock leaves although rusted, lol, Hosta of course, and Sunn Hemp my legume cover crop. Sunn Hemp has such beautiful leaves. I planted some in my South garden behind a fence! I used a snug hole when I planted Elina. I will put some coffee grounds on top to protect the graft. Your lilac colored Rose of Sharon behind you is beautiful. I suspect you've been dealing w/ the drought too.
Thanks Portia. Any rain on the way for you? We're starting to see a little more here now.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I don't see any forecasted:-( We'll probably get a few drops .You know:-) I've been waiting for my Black Mollies to have babies for a week now, notheing:-) One had (4) living and (3) not living from PetSmart. I lost all (3) and had to get replacements, smh. I treated them for a week w/ SeaChem of Atlanta's Paraguard. So far so good. I've got (2) expecting since I got the new ones. I love Black Mollies. They're from Mexico. I am hoping to have some to sell on Craigslist for the upcoming holidays. I went on a job interview the other day. I sure hope I get it. I interviewed well of course but my resume is junk:-( I was too honest on all my previous jobs:-)
I enjoy your videos very much. But I must admit, I'm a bit confused from the beginning of the video. You mentioned about an own root rose, and potting it up into a somewhat larger pot, before planted into the ground. And this is especially important if it's right around late summer and early Autumn, before the plant can get established. But then where are you supposed to do with this pot? Are you supposed to take this into the house and grow it as a houseplant? Or are you supposed to take this newly potted plant and repot it yet again in the garden? If so, what's the point of that? Better to go right into the ground. I have an own root Rose which i just bought online and it's looking pretty spindly. And I would like to give it a chance to establish itself before winter. I live in zone 5. So what would you recommend Sir?
Our soil is sandy and I have seen unamended plants sit there and do nothing while amended ones thrive. Similar experiences with heavy clay down south. But if the dirt is hummusy you probably don't need to amend.
Thanks Phillip. I'll beg a difference here: I definitely amend my soil, but I do it from the top down to the entire planting area rather than just in the planting hole immediately around the new roots of the rose.
I wish I knew about all this before I planted so many roses ( I have lost many roses cause the landscaper planted them incorrectly).
Hi Jason, for own root roses , if we plant it at a deeper level, won’t the new crown become where it’s coming into contact with soil ? I understand there’s a fixed crown for grafted roses (bud union) but for own root roses, the crown seems non existent as it depends on your depth of planting. Please clarify.
Hi Shravani - please bear with me - because I think I know what you're asking, but it'll take me a sec to get there. Even on an own root rose, there's a natural crown. It's the division between the part that grows upwards as stems, and what grows downward as roots. My preference is to plant or transplant the existing crown at approximately soil level - because it's given me consistently good results. Imagine that at the time of transplanting a large, well-branched rose, you washed off all the soil and bare-rooted your rose. Then, if you planted it with 8" of roots above the soil line, where would the crown be? At the soil line, or 8" above it, where the plant begins to have canes? Likewise, at least initially, if you bury the crown by 8", the multiple stems emerging at ground level do not immediately become the crown (or *crowns* I guess, because there's likely to be more than one stem). I suppose what you're saying, though, is that the buried portions of the stems could eventually root below the soil, and shoot above it, becoming the equivalent (collectively) of a crown. I'm not sure that's a safe bet with all varieties. I've definitely lost an own-root rose or two in the landscape after deep planting - crown rot? Not sure, but they did blacken from the base. I've also transplanted (some) deeply planted own-root roses and found no sign of additional rooting on the buried portions of the stem above the original crown. I haven't done much experimentation on it, though, and your experience is as valid as mine.
Much appreciated explanation Jason. You’ve a lot more experience in the industry. Thank you.
I have a question, Jason. You are in a cold climate with a rose farm. How do you over-winter your roses?
Hi Doris. We're a USDA zone 8 here, so relatively mild owing to our coastal location. I back off the feeding and pruning in late summer, but offer no additional wrapping/covering in the field. My potted roses in the greenhouse go dormant (eventually, and with a little help pruning and stripping old leaves) - I hold them a bit on the dry side, but still have to water occasionally as they dry out. Here's a vid I did on overwintering - not sure if you saw it: ruclips.net/video/tPU6UOSVSBE/видео.html
Hi Fraser. I've taken cuttings of a few roses which I've been keeping in a greenhouse for a little while, to avoid rot from weeks of rain. My question is whether I should cut off any new growth until spring?
Ps: I'm going to copy this post to your cutting video but do only answer it once.
Nice Hibiscus syriacus, I guess 'Minerva'.
I agree, but because the planting directions were SO specific when I received my own root rose and because I was afraid of voiding the year warranty if I didn’t follow them, I felt like there wasn’t a choice... I guess they have to protect themselves from the absolute worst planting habits out there.
Thanks Emily - and best luck with your new roses!
what does crown rot look like, and how does it differ from root rot? How is this corrected?
Hi Pamela. Brown or black tissue. Soft or mushy tissue. It's a general term, and could be caused by a large number of different pathogens. It's a lot like root rot, and just differs in the location. The rot can begin low down on a stem, and progress into the crown. If you catch it early, you can remove the affected tissue to give the plant a chance to recover. Good air circulation is often helpful. Fungicide is another option.
You grow blueberries too?
Yes, a few. We're picking more than we can eat right now!
If walnut trees are planted deeper in the soil the stem of the tree will begin to rot after 5 years your tree will die. 22.7.24
Hi Jason, please may i ask if you have any opinions or rules for planting own root roses in containers, especially in regards to multiple single type roses in one container.
I ask this question due to the fact l think I heard you say in a previous video that roses don't like to compete for food.
Some other rose growers have suggested this is a good idea if you a striving for a more full and compact display.
They appear to be saying a single rose would not be vagarous enough to spread and support many blooms. Obviously this would depend a lot on the type of rose chosen for the container size