This theme has such a strong positive vibe! Kinda makes me want to build a bomb train equipped with mobile rail guns and ram it into an alternate world futuristic fortress
The song is ok. Is the placement of the song that is questionable. Made sense only on Wuk Lamat acceptance of Dawnservant. But nowhere else it was used
Yoshi P: "So what should we do after making the player essentially commit genocide and kill all the characters we've introduced over the past 5 levels?" Soken: "How about a bright Disney pop song?" Yoshi P: "Brilliant!"
Intresting no one mentioned that the theme of Solution 9 is a remix of this. You can kinda interpret this a Sphene being the lead female vocals whike the crowds answering her are the living ppl of solution 9. They even sing "our nation will carry on"
I mean it fits both civilizations in the end. For all her flawed ideals Sphene just wanted Alexandria and its people and their community bonds to live on. And it will
No one? No one at all? Did you poll every human who has played this? RUclips comments have to be majority bots or children getting ahold of their parents PCs.
There's a general theme for dawntrail that both city areas are made with. It's not exclusive to Solution Nine, and it comes up remixed for certain cutescenes as well.
@@midgetsnowman even worse is when you realize that sphene is the pc program equivalent of elidibus (shadowbringers one) and a female golbez (only wanting ppls souls to power her pc people instead of her people going to the lifestream to be reborn) mixed
i wouldnt be surprised if this was part of it, but the last few expansion have all also done this, with zone themes being arrangements of the expansions main lyrical piece. e.g. radz-at-han and flow, or eulmore and tomorrow and tomorrow
Yeah, this expansion suppose to be ARR reborn. It is a good start for a whole new saga, beter than ARR than lays down 14 new world setting, and even better than Stormblood to set some future conflict and allies.
There are flaws to the Dawntrail story (namely the pacing, good god it took forever for things to finally start moving with some gusto) but the core of the story was really good, and I liked the exploration of passing the torch. I think it's fitting that the WoL is now the mentor figure, the "Big Good" pushing the next generation's heroes to achieve their dreams. We're out for adventure, but we had our "walk before": the threats of this post-Ascian age are for "those who come after" to deal with, in their way, on their terms. I think Wuk Lamat embodies this well. I enjoyed 7.0 MSQ and I'm looking forward to what the patches bring.
I see a lot of people complaining about this, but I don't know why. Maybe I don't feel the same as everyone else because I'm not a native English speaker? For me, this has a lot of emotions and it's very good as the credits theme
I'm far from hating DT's story but holy shit this song is psychotic man lol... Every time it popped up it just made me laugh my ass off. That fuckin train cutscene was literally a Disney Channel movie ahh montage man. I kneel.
You know when the devs said, you're going to a new island for vacation? What they really meant was, Yoshi P is working on ff16 so we're having a vacation.
There's omitting details to not spoil the story in the marketing material, and there's the outright lying that yoship and his team did while promoting this expac. Never let them forget.
4:18 yea I just heard this for the first time and had to find this lol gives Lion King vibes big time (also for the Sonic heads…does this remind you of the Sonic Rush song Raisin’ Me Up?)
This is corny but in a way that I really sincerely love. A nice change of pace from Flow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow (though those are both good, of course!)
Can people not cap. The song is mixed badly and the vocal performance is not the best take they could've recorded, the woman is fighting for her life on some of these notes. It COULD maybe be a good song but its definitely not used that well in the MSQ and is pretty bad for the standard of the music we expect for not just a credits song but the game in general.
Honestly I think of this less as the "credits" music and more as the theme when Wuk Lamat wins midway through the MSQ, as that's when it first plays, and arguably fits better.
I’m 90% sure it’s based on american musicals. The way it’s built sounds almost like Greatest Showman. I thought it was a really neat touch to include that style since it’s an americas thing like swing and the others shown
@@crowolf3862 I definitely noticed that they got actual English speakers to do the back up vocals this time which definitely gives it a more western vibe.
@@Tsuba_Nick he was an indecisive weak pos true. And the whole star had to suffer for his sophistry. There is no redemption for him after what he has done.
I don't get why they couldn't have used an instrumental during the end monologue. The singing and the loud ass choir drowned out ALL of what was being said from Erenville lol it was very distracting and whoever mixed the audio levels should be fired
i think my only real issue with this song is the mixing to be honest, it just feels really weirdly empty whenever it's not the full choral parts, in a way that i don't think was intentional and the chorus responses end up sounding more pitch-corrected than like it's just a lot of people singing
I agree completely. the soloist is too loud/intense over the instrumentals. and in addition to what you mentioned, during the call/response part, the chorus singers aren't entirely in time with the piano? which just makes things feel off. I think with some better mixing and maybe a few retakes, people would like this song a lot more. it has the potential imo.
@@IosLocarth Yeah you're right. That's why I'm saying it's silly people want something more story wise for their created character. As if role playing who your character is doesn't matter anymore.
This is really rough, its tough to make out what some of the words are in the chorus parts but I tried my best lol At the crossroad, standing here Not a star in the sky to guide me tonight If we're lost in loss and fear Deep in darkness round my cries All this pain inside of me Don't know where it starts or when it'll end Try to tame the agony, as I close my eyes and scream to the wind. Look around and find I'm standing all alone (Look again, we're standing there) Cause the storm is taking everything I know (Deep in loss, you needn't bend) Don't know why I thought I'd make it by myself (After all that we've been through) Out of time, I'm running, clad inside my health[?] (We were always there for you) There's so much in life I couldn't understand (Understand we're by your side) Standing tall, we'll face tomorrow hand in hand (Mine in yours, and yours in mine) We remember, through the war, through everything (This our tale, our tapestry) Never losing sight of everyone I met (No matter what, we're gonna be[?]) In lightning's wake, did naught but ash remain Stay with the rain, the sun will ring again Our wish and father[?] still beyond the grace It carries on, we will carry on. So fly along the rainbow sea (We remember who we'll be) Alive with everything it reaches (Love and peace and harmony) We walk a never ending trail (May your heart find happiness) Our love, our wish will never pale (This is your inheritance) Just imagine what's around the bend? (Magic, or mischief? Gods forfend) Endless marvels, myst'ries, newfound friends (Wilder than wildest dreams portend.) Tight, seize the day and hold on tight. The sun is rising. Life, take it slow and take a bite... So high, on the dawn, we set our sights. A new horizon. Fly, ever forward stary eyed... ohhh, yeah...
@@nicholaspoland-martinez3246 Thank you this is really helps a lot, now I get the sense of what the song is trying to convey. I'll be honest with you I don't even get what the lyrics really is during the solo part. I have to say it is a very beautiful song.
@@nicholaspoland-martinez3246 pretty sure the “in life” line is “in lighting’s wake did not but ash remain… something something our song does ring again
Had some trouble with the vocals at the start, felt the singer was kinda struggling ? But it's growing on me tbh. Not as good as the two previous ones, but nice nonetheless.
It's really whiny, idk why they thought that'd be necessary. It might be the whiniest lead vocals in existence, odd choice. And oddly mixed. The choir sounds like they're a room over meanwhile the lead has the mic down her throat. Maybe the theme is stepping out of your comfort zone Because that's definitely what happened here with the creation of this track lol
It’s the lady who sang Scream in Pandemonium, AKINO from Bless4. She sings really well so I’m not sure how they managed to get her to mangle this song let alone think this was acceptable for a final take.
its dumb af lol this whole expansion was wack except for very few moments. should have left wuks ass in tuliyolal at halfways point and let krile have the spotlight for second half but nah they simultaneously had to shove wuk down our throats and up our asses
I can completely get being surprised by the track, because it is very different to what we've had in the past, but for me it wasn't in a bad way, and I have found myself liking it more and more as i go 😊 I also loved the train montage 😆
I wasn't a fan at first but I've warmed up to it a lot after a few listens This upload is missing the last few minutes though for some reason, which are actually my favorite part
I dont remember where I heard this, I think it was during one of the fanfests or something, but I remember hearing about Sokken being very nervous about some of the songs this expansion. Yoshi-P told him to make songs that were happy and upbeat, and Sokken really stepped out of his comfort zone here. I remember hearing that hes not one for making happy, upbeat songs like this. If this is true, I give him props for stepping out of his comfort zone and actually trying. I know he really tries to make songs and music that everybody would enjoy. And this was said by him in an interview with somebody. Or expressed by him. He truly tries hard, and it makes him very nervous that people will hate his music. However, perhaps making music like this is good for him because he gets feedback and can do things differently next time he's expected to make more music like this. I just wish people werent so hateful about it. Some of the critisicm is downright rude and isnt helpful at all. Just a bunch of insults.
he has had made upbeat song like this before and they have all worked out very well. This one just happened to be not one of them unfortunate. In his defense he was overworked with XVI so he definitely having a burned out.
@@davidschroeder6578 She liked some political tweets years ago and the legendary "virtuous" people of the internet think she deserves to be miserable for the rest of her life.
@@crimsonpotemkin I just think the expansion is bad, not everyone has to like things you do you are not the main character. Expansion is horrible story-wise compared to every other one, the dungeons and trials are good though. Also why are you using 4chan lingo outside 4chan.
@@CorruptedMaterial You're free to think anything about an expansion or anything at all. But why go and rain on someone's enjoyment just to be vitriolic ? That's the toxic part of it
I actually kinda am happy this was the ending theme, for one because it was so different to that of all the other expansions that were all very much in similiar style, so having this for the start of a new journey is fine, EXSPECIALLY at least for me because this expansion was not about the WoL really, like we were never before quite as much in a background support role as we were here for Wuk Lamat, so for me this was truely her Expansion and for her that theme kinda fits, with her ideology of happiness and also her more positive outlook on life and death Explanation for the Wuk Lamat thing: Normally even if expansion like stormblood with lyse had front and center characters it was always the WoL who had to defeat the big enemies, so it was alone the WoL and people supporting the WoL in some way that drove the main story In comparrison in dawntrail is that we never truely did anything meaningful without Wuk Lamat being front and center, like all the feats were her ideas and understanding the people or us supporting her, the fights she always was there even in the none trust trial and lastly we were quite often litterally told to stand aside and let her do what only she as the leader should do, which for me is fine simply because power scaling wise the wol is a monster for the writers i guess exspecially if you want to start the next arc in a way where you do not want to have our enemy and the stakes be something that power wise is stronger than despair personafied, sonce staring slower lets you build up a story once again BUT i also understand if people are kinda dissapointed with the player taking such a beackseat in comparrison to pretty much all the other expansions and did not enjoy being forced to be the support this time since it is a self insert MMO which normally does put the players in the main active roles
This is the first expansion that WoL become a mentor, real mentor to Wuk Lamat. We already beat the cosmic side enemy, this is our time to take part as mentor.
@@bebekkurushonestly I would have liked for at least one section where we try to do things as usual only for it to blow up in our face, showing that even for as experienced as we are we are still fallible and have room to grow as a mentor. Even if it’s piss off pretty much the entire fanbase lol.
@@bebekkurus exactly. And given how many parallels to shadowbringiners there are in heritage lost on, you’d think that the wol would be more open to speaking with Wuk Lamat about his experiences with Emet, and his own battle over the lives of two civilizations.
I admit this song threw me the first time I heard it but after a few listens I have to say i really like it. Definitely feels like it embodies the tone of the expansion.
I won't pretend to know WHY we went for a Broadway Musical vibe with this song but I'm about it. Don't think we've had something like this in this game yet?
im kinda neutral to the song. i feel it’s a weird tonal after what we essentially did in the last zone. it’s reminds me of that one song from that circus movie that came out a short while ago
After the beautiful music from Endwalker this seems like someone's idea of a sick joke lol like really poor tone and embarrassing vocals. Digguh tunnel vibes.
I absolutely love it too. I don't get all the hate for this song... I mean, it's not my favorite, but I think it's really fitting for Dawntrail who is supposed to be a more chill and happy story compared to ShB and Endwalker
I dont really get the hate for this song. I dig it. To me it represents the heart of FFXIV as a whole and made me feel a lot and the train scene was fun. It's not flow but it never promised to be. It's different, it's fun, and I will gladly listen to it along with the many other amazing music this game has given me over the last 10 years! :)
@@concentratedregret6394 It was a scene about multiple walks of people coming together to work towards their salvation I don't get how it is that bad of a whiplash
I know a lot of people are torn on this, but I think the OST fits. The not so subtle message of the final zone (at least to me) is about letting go of the past and learning to move on/how it's okay to let go, and this song invokes the imagery of a "new day" or a rising sun, which fits into that perfectly. That, and the imagery also doubles as an "and now that this storm has passed, we can look forward to the future (next patches)."
@@KanemiX3 that's one of my biggest gripes with it. It feels like it's diminishing the message we just learned, makes light of their importance, and completely disregards the sanctity of the messages we were learning especially when it comes to loss and being able to move on knowing that the only memory you have of that is with you and that's why it's precious.
@@KanemiX3 probably an unpopular take, but while DT definitely retread familiar ground, imo, it gaps END in the end because there was actually loss and consequence on the part of our party. I always hated how the Scions dying was this big fake out "lol JK they were alive and now they're praying for your success!" It felt like them taking a cheap emotional blow where they could w/o committing to it because losing Yshtola would deal a devastating blow to Square or smth.
The main vocals are a little weird but besides that I don't get the hate for the song at all. Everyone just says "its a Disney movie song" but I don't get why that's bad. I think FF players just expect every main expac vocal theme to be a sad aria like Flow or Dragonsong.
This song felt really weird at first but the more I listen to it the more it grows on me. Not sold for the choice during the msq, still feels not deserved? A bit not fitting? Gonna replay it soon and see how it feels again.
I like that the music direction was wildly different and I feel this tune growing on me, but I will admit, coming off the coattails of EW, I will say I was hoping from something a bit different. That being said the expansion makes up for it with some other great tracks.
This theme was SO unexpected and I was obsessed from the moment I first heard it midway through msq. The music has consistently just gotten better and better every expansion. Soken is absolutely brilliant!
Theres a part of me that hopes we get a more combat-oriented version of this(Like Flow into Flow Together), during some sort of battle where positive Dynamis is overflowing from us and our allies, or maybe a friendly battle with Wuk Lamat, Koana, and Bakool Ja Ja
Honestly, the real problem with the song are the vocals. They're too disney and gospel like. Just the melody with a more mellow set of vocals would have worked much better.
People mean to this expansion while they forget that THIS is a build-up story expansion after the long and depressed and hopeful 5 saga expansions end. Please, you cannot top the Endwalker-saga with just one expansion.
No sorry. Anyone who makes this argument is incredibly off base or doesnt understand what good writing entails. It has absolutely nothing to do with "build up". Taken as an isolated narrative, it was incredibly weak. Do the same with HW or ShB for example and the same is entirely untrue. Stakes do not make or break a story, you can absolutely write a great story with new characters, locations and events, etc etc. This was not it. Not by a long shot. Regardless of what future stuff they are "setting up"
@@Exeeter1234 You have NO idea what good writing is. Building up a plot is LITERALLY an integral part of any good story, without exception. ALL isolated narratives are "weak" if they amount to nothing else, or are designed to not amount to anything else. Stop pretending you're an expert. It's embarrassing to watch. This part is especially sad: >This was not it. Not by a long shot. >>>Regardless
@@optimaltt6070 Yeah! You can't say that it sucked because we haven't seen the next three expansions yet! That would be like watching a 30 hour long movie and saying that you didn't enjoy it when you haven't even seen the sequels! Your opinion is invalid! But of course mine that says that it was good is fine. /s
I just love so much how you can hear the "Close in the distance" theme in this one. Every new journey builds upon a legacy we lived through. No memories are forgotten. We are who we are because we are formed by everything we live through
Sadly, although I respect everyone’s opinion on this, I can’t get behind it. The chorus is jarring, the pace sounds like they tried to make it like Moana’s ‘How Far I Go’ without sounding like it. It’s a P to the U for me.
The sturcture of the music is fantastic especially the harmony part, but I feel like the singer's tone is kind of sharp and tight(and a bit disorder) whenever she's soloing like does she the same singer from SHB and EW I just kind of feel like the quality doesnt match with the pre credit themes
I mean, it’s a japanese singer trying to do an english language musical styled song. There’s gonna be some bumpy sections. I’m excited for when lyrics get released so the eng fluent cover artists can get their hands at this musical number.
Dawntrail MSQ defenders will try to claim this song is perfect and was not comically out of place whatsoever in any of the scenes it played in, or try to claim it being comically out of place was the point all along because this is supposed to be the fun vacation expansion.
There is like no consistency of the music in this game, what do people mean out of place, one time we have lofi, next we have dad rock, I get people not liking the song, but that statement is whack.
@@Sassjor It's not the genre that's out of place. It's the tone. A bunch of people working together to strap wood to a train does not warrant some Lion King type music. It was out of place for the scene, as I specified in my comment, not just the game in general.
@@midgetsnowman Ah yes, you're right, I'm sorry for not being so hyper-emotional that I just get lost in the moment and don't even pay any mind to how out of place the song feels in the scenes it plays in. My bad for being grounded enough that I can actually notice flaws in things.
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This expansion went from Road to El Dorado to Cyperpunk really quick.
If you've ever played through Fire Emblem: Three Houses, the aesthetic shift matches Claude's route.
That isnt what cyberpunk is.
more like pso2 imo
Dawntrail. Come for The Road to El Dorado. Stay for the Phantasy Star.
We went from tribal conflict to the Industrial Revolution and its consequences
This theme has such a strong positive vibe!
Kinda makes me want to build a bomb train equipped with mobile rail guns and ram it into an alternate world futuristic fortress
HELL YEAH LETS DO IT
bro this shit is stright up corny
thats remind me of Disney so horrible lmao
@@Omar12521 Personal preference 🤷♀️
But idk why you're coming here to get upset at people who don't share your opinion.
@@lj_aderyn i mean
if someone have different opinion from u that does not mean they are upset
i was not upset at all i just said its shit
Cringe disney lion king song for cringe dlc ^^
Soken decided to do a little bit of whimsy
That's totally not soken, it doesn't sound like him at all
@@rivenblake8220 the lyrics being unintelligible makes me think its soken
@@EmiliaTanWhoit’s Koji 100%
The song is ok. Is the placement of the song that is questionable. Made sense only on Wuk Lamat acceptance of Dawnservant. But nowhere else it was used
going from flow to this is some fucking crazy whiplash
Yoshi P: "So what should we do after making the player essentially commit genocide and kill all the characters we've introduced over the past 5 levels?"
Soken: "How about a bright Disney pop song?"
Yoshi P: "Brilliant!"
@@ninetailedfox579121 you win the interwebs
@@ninetailedfox579121can‘t kill what‘s already dead
@@valandil2497 Can something be dead if it was never alive to begin with?
@@ninetailedfox579121 Was till endwalker. Died at the patches, jesus this game is embarrassing.
Am I the only one who thinks an instrumental version of this would've been perfect for the last zone after you beat the MSQ?
I like the dead mall vibes the final zone gives after the MSQ tbh.
@DELUXExSUPREME Yeah I agree, both are good choices imo
We already get it in solution 9 so it might have felt like too much
@@crowolf3862i think it could’ve worked if the arrangements were different enough-might’ve tied the areas together nicely!!
@@crowolf3862if you listen to the tuly song it’s the same thing just sped up
Intresting no one mentioned that the theme of Solution 9 is a remix of this.
You can kinda interpret this a Sphene being the lead female vocals whike the crowds answering her are the living ppl of solution 9. They even sing "our nation will carry on"
I mean it fits both civilizations in the end. For all her flawed ideals Sphene just wanted Alexandria and its people and their community bonds to live on. And it will
No one? No one at all? Did you poll every human who has played this?
RUclips comments have to be majority bots or children getting ahold of their parents PCs.
There's a general theme for dawntrail that both city areas are made with. It's not exclusive to Solution Nine, and it comes up remixed for certain cutescenes as well.
@@midgetsnowman even worse is when you realize that sphene is the pc program equivalent of elidibus (shadowbringers one) and a female golbez (only wanting ppls souls to power her pc people instead of her people going to the lifestream to be reborn) mixed
i wouldnt be surprised if this was part of it, but the last few expansion have all also done this, with zone themes being arrangements of the expansions main lyrical piece. e.g. radz-at-han and flow, or eulmore and tomorrow and tomorrow
Circle of life ahh song
I snorted out loud in the middle of the train lol
Wuk Lamat is quite literally a Lion King now lol
@@StarseekerAtlas I think you mean Lioness Queen
Dude it also gave me those vibes too lmao I thought Disney song with a lion lmao 😅
More like garbage character@@Gexon1000
Me: Can watch the "The Greatest Showman"?
Mom: We have "The Greatest Showman" at home.
That’s what immediately comes to mind too!
This is going to be a very decisive song. I don't think its BAD, but having it play during the train montage was tonal whiplash.
no it's bad
@@tyty8484 its not bad at all, its jsut not your style. bad is subjective when it comes to music tastes
Agreed. It was so jarring when I heard it played there. This should have been kept as just a credits theme.
@@tyty8484 Congratulations, you're fucking wrong.
Especially because the point of the scene was to build a bomb on a train.
It's like if Osama Bin Laden was in high school musical
I burst out laughing every time 2:03 popped off during the MSQ, it was just really weird to hear lol
"Smiiiiiiiile! 🚆🙂💣" 😆🤣💀
Just praise the Twelve and say hallelujah!
I was like "who turned on the gospel" lol
me too haha
i HATED it
This expansion was good yall are just mean
People expecting this super elaborate thing when things need to get build up from start.
Yeah, this expansion suppose to be ARR reborn. It is a good start for a whole new saga, beter than ARR than lays down 14 new world setting, and even better than Stormblood to set some future conflict and allies.
Nice to see some love for this expac story
Just finish the MSQ, I thought people would love it. I think it’s heavensward level of good
There are flaws to the Dawntrail story (namely the pacing, good god it took forever for things to finally start moving with some gusto) but the core of the story was really good, and I liked the exploration of passing the torch. I think it's fitting that the WoL is now the mentor figure, the "Big Good" pushing the next generation's heroes to achieve their dreams. We're out for adventure, but we had our "walk before": the threats of this post-Ascian age are for "those who come after" to deal with, in their way, on their terms. I think Wuk Lamat embodies this well. I enjoyed 7.0 MSQ and I'm looking forward to what the patches bring.
I see a lot of people complaining about this, but I don't know why. Maybe I don't feel the same as everyone else because I'm not a native English speaker? For me, this has a lot of emotions and it's very good as the credits theme
its not bad there just wasn't any good place to put it.
I'm far from hating DT's story but holy shit this song is psychotic man lol... Every time it popped up it just made me laugh my ass off.
That fuckin train cutscene was literally a Disney Channel movie ahh montage man. I kneel.
You know when the devs said, you're going to a new island for vacation? What they really meant was, Yoshi P is working on ff16 so we're having a vacation.
🤣
There's omitting details to not spoil the story in the marketing material, and there's the outright lying that yoship and his team did while promoting this expac. Never let them forget.
4:18 yea I just heard this for the first time and had to find this lol gives Lion King vibes big time (also for the Sonic heads…does this remind you of the Sonic Rush song Raisin’ Me Up?)
This is corny but in a way that I really sincerely love. A nice change of pace from Flow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow (though those are both good, of course!)
Can people not cap. The song is mixed badly and the vocal performance is not the best take they could've recorded, the woman is fighting for her life on some of these notes. It COULD maybe be a good song but its definitely not used that well in the MSQ and is pretty bad for the standard of the music we expect for not just a credits song but the game in general.
Yeah idk what happened, the performance is really bad
Honestly I think of this less as the "credits" music and more as the theme when Wuk Lamat wins midway through the MSQ, as that's when it first plays, and arguably fits better.
The festive parts feel like an old Disney Movie Song...which isn't necessarily a bad thing for an Ending Theme
I’m 90% sure it’s based on american musicals. The way it’s built sounds almost like Greatest Showman. I thought it was a really neat touch to include that style since it’s an americas thing like swing and the others shown
I start to notice changes in style or approach for OST since “In The Balance”
straight up gave me Hercules Disney vibes lol and im here for it lol
@@crowolf3862 I definitely noticed that they got actual English speakers to do the back up vocals this time which definitely gives it a more western vibe.
@@crowolf3862 Yep, this felt like the finale song to a broadway show lol
We are in Etheirys supercycle bois. Enjoy the ride for the next years to come
Hope it was worth it hermes
I’ll never forgive him
@@Tsuba_Nick he was an indecisive weak pos true. And the whole star had to suffer for his sophistry. There is no redemption for him after what he has done.
Dude forgot to add failsafe program to his birb
Hermes what a man you are
I don't get why they couldn't have used an instrumental during the end monologue. The singing and the loud ass choir drowned out ALL of what was being said from Erenville lol it was very distracting and whoever mixed the audio levels should be fired
i think my only real issue with this song is the mixing to be honest, it just feels really weirdly empty whenever it's not the full choral parts, in a way that i don't think was intentional and the chorus responses end up sounding more pitch-corrected than like it's just a lot of people singing
I agree completely. the soloist is too loud/intense over the instrumentals. and in addition to what you mentioned, during the call/response part, the chorus singers aren't entirely in time with the piano? which just makes things feel off. I think with some better mixing and maybe a few retakes, people would like this song a lot more. it has the potential imo.
should be wuk lamat standing on the rock at this point
No, she should be standing there and her axe head should cover the WoL so you can barely make them out.
@@TeemoTemosson lol accurate
The WoL gets glazed so hard throughout this expansion. What more do you want? 😂
@@JJBCrimsonKnight I mean that was intentional. Our story is over, this expac was Wuk Lamat's story. We're just the mentor figure
@@IosLocarth Yeah you're right. That's why I'm saying it's silly people want something more story wise for their created character. As if role playing who your character is doesn't matter anymore.
From El Dorado to Cyberpunk to " We do a little genocide "
This is like, they got theater kids to right an anime ED. Wild.
While its a bit jarring at first I do like the choice for a group chourus to fit the expansions themes of community and culture
Yes, culture like uhhh
Tacos...and....uh...
Tacos.
the instruments and voice on the first part of the song kinda felt like they were fighting each other but uh... the song harmonized eventually
Anyone manage to pry the lyrics out of this?
This is really rough, its tough to make out what some of the words are in the chorus parts but I tried my best lol
At the crossroad, standing here
Not a star in the sky to guide me tonight
If we're lost in loss and fear
Deep in darkness round my cries
All this pain inside of me
Don't know where it starts or when it'll end
Try to tame the agony, as I close my eyes and scream to the wind.
Look around and find I'm standing all alone (Look again, we're standing there)
Cause the storm is taking everything I know (Deep in loss, you needn't bend)
Don't know why I thought I'd make it by myself (After all that we've been through)
Out of time, I'm running, clad inside my health[?] (We were always there for you)
There's so much in life I couldn't understand (Understand we're by your side)
Standing tall, we'll face tomorrow hand in hand (Mine in yours, and yours in mine)
We remember, through the war, through everything (This our tale, our tapestry)
Never losing sight of everyone I met (No matter what, we're gonna be[?])
In lightning's wake, did naught but ash remain
Stay with the rain, the sun will ring again
Our wish and father[?] still beyond the grace
It carries on, we will carry on.
So fly along the rainbow sea (We remember who we'll be)
Alive with everything it reaches (Love and peace and harmony)
We walk a never ending trail (May your heart find happiness)
Our love, our wish will never pale (This is your inheritance)
Just imagine what's around the bend? (Magic, or mischief? Gods forfend)
Endless marvels, myst'ries, newfound friends
(Wilder than wildest dreams portend.)
Tight, seize the day and hold on tight. The sun is rising.
Life, take it slow and take a bite...
So high, on the dawn, we set our sights. A new horizon.
Fly, ever forward stary eyed... ohhh, yeah...
@@nicholaspoland-martinez3246 Thank you this is really helps a lot, now I get the sense of what the song is trying to convey. I'll be honest with you I don't even get what the lyrics really is during the solo part.
I have to say it is a very beautiful song.
at the crossroad standing here
@@nicholaspoland-martinez3246 pretty sure the “in life” line is “in lighting’s wake did not but ash remain… something something our song does ring again
*naught but
the vocal style is certainly a choice. the ends of all her notes sound offtune
Had some trouble with the vocals at the start, felt the singer was kinda struggling ? But it's growing on me tbh. Not as good as the two previous ones, but nice nonetheless.
It's really whiny, idk why they thought that'd be necessary. It might be the whiniest lead vocals in existence, odd choice. And oddly mixed. The choir sounds like they're a room over meanwhile the lead has the mic down her throat. Maybe the theme is stepping out of your comfort zone
Because that's definitely what happened here with the creation of this track lol
It’s the lady who sang Scream in Pandemonium, AKINO from Bless4. She sings really well so I’m not sure how they managed to get her to mangle this song let alone think this was acceptable for a final take.
@@brianngo8172 completely agree shes amazing, just some odd choices on this one by the producers and mixers
Same notes sounded slightly off during her solo part… I really like the uplifting choir later on though.
She's glissing everything, that's def a director's choice
Its giving church vibes. We are giving praise to our favourite mother hydaelyn
This gives modern Disney vibes IMO. Not good. I can't decide what sound assaulted my ears worse between this or Wuk Lamat's English VA.
@@TeemoTemosson I read whenever anyone says modern disney as : "im still really pissed about star wars killing off han"
“Modern Disney”? Is this right wing virtue signaling?
Have you never seen Lion King from the 1990’s?
@@keelhaulsthingsthatdontmatter Now compare it to the remake.
@@midgetsnowman Han was an overrated character. Disney Star Wars is absolute garbage, but the prequels weren't that much better.
I eagerly await the Achen and Keiko cover on the next arrangement album. Love the vision on this song but the vocal performance is very weak.
This song felt so out of place when it played for the first time
its dumb af lol this whole expansion was wack except for very few moments. should have left wuks ass in tuliyolal at halfways point and let krile have the spotlight for second half but nah they simultaneously had to shove wuk down our throats and up our asses
You need a little more whimsy
…are you thinking of the second time? The first time was the ceremony.
Nope
It did. 100%
I can completely get being surprised by the track, because it is very different to what we've had in the past, but for me it wasn't in a bad way, and I have found myself liking it more and more as i go 😊
I also loved the train montage 😆
The expansion about understanding, respect and community ends with an uplifting, hopeful chorus song. Perfect.
LOL
I wonder if the backing vocals are voice synths? Cuz they don’t seem to have the cohesion of a live vocalist
I wasn't a fan at first but I've warmed up to it a lot after a few listens
This upload is missing the last few minutes though for some reason, which are actually my favorite part
I dont remember where I heard this, I think it was during one of the fanfests or something, but I remember hearing about Sokken being very nervous about some of the songs this expansion. Yoshi-P told him to make songs that were happy and upbeat, and Sokken really stepped out of his comfort zone here. I remember hearing that hes not one for making happy, upbeat songs like this.
If this is true, I give him props for stepping out of his comfort zone and actually trying. I know he really tries to make songs and music that everybody would enjoy. And this was said by him in an interview with somebody. Or expressed by him. He truly tries hard, and it makes him very nervous that people will hate his music.
However, perhaps making music like this is good for him because he gets feedback and can do things differently next time he's expected to make more music like this. I just wish people werent so hateful about it. Some of the critisicm is downright rude and isnt helpful at all. Just a bunch of insults.
he has had made upbeat song like this before and they have all worked out very well. This one just happened to be not one of them unfortunate. In his defense he was overworked with XVI so he definitely having a burned out.
I'd say at least the bangers in the rest of the soundtrack more than make up for this weirdness of a song
Not having another Amanda Achen track was such a misfire.
or calloway
@@Ralexand1988 Lol we're never going to see calloway ever again. For very good reasons.
@@KumatanchiiAnd what are those reasons?
@@davidschroeder6578 She liked some political tweets years ago and the legendary "virtuous" people of the internet think she deserves to be miserable for the rest of her life.
@@davidschroeder6578 She liked some tweets years ago so some "people" think she doesn't deserve to work again.
Its sung in a very broadway manner vs hollywood pop musical. Its not for everyone, I personally like it.
This theme does a great job representing what this expansion is about,and I adore it for that.
Yeah it's bad and this song is a perfect representation of it
Actual dogcrap? I agree
@@CorruptedMaterial what's with the toxicity? Where are you tourists coming from? Go back.
@@crimsonpotemkin I just think the expansion is bad, not everyone has to like things you do you are not the main character. Expansion is horrible story-wise compared to every other one, the dungeons and trials are good though.
Also why are you using 4chan lingo outside 4chan.
@@CorruptedMaterial You're free to think anything about an expansion or anything at all. But why go and rain on someone's enjoyment just to be vitriolic ? That's the toxic part of it
It was so funny loading a train with weapons while this played
This song is so Disney its crazy haha
It really is lol. Not that I’m complaining! I think it fits perfectly
This gives Neo-Disney not classic Disney vibes. That's not a good thing.
No its not?
Like the "Circle of Life"?
Its ok decently good song, i can see its not everone cup of tea but it grows on ya abit
It's the gospel worship song!
delete this
@@Gekkoukitsune9praise the Twelve!
It reminds me of the Pokemon movie themes. It’s oddly nostalgic…
This song sounds like what I expect a parody of this song to sound like.
I actually really enjoyed this song, thought it fit Dawntrail really well
Good thing i always skip Credits so i didn't have to listen to this.
This has to be the worst song in the game, what were they thinking.
I actually kinda am happy this was the ending theme, for one because it was so different to that of all the other expansions that were all very much in similiar style, so having this for the start of a new journey is fine, EXSPECIALLY at least for me because this expansion was not about the WoL really, like we were never before quite as much in a background support role as we were here for Wuk Lamat, so for me this was truely her Expansion and for her that theme kinda fits, with her ideology of happiness and also her more positive outlook on life and death
Explanation for the Wuk Lamat thing:
Normally even if expansion like stormblood with lyse had front and center characters it was always the WoL who had to defeat the big enemies, so it was alone the WoL and people supporting the WoL in some way that drove the main story
In comparrison in dawntrail is that we never truely did anything meaningful without Wuk Lamat being front and center, like all the feats were her ideas and understanding the people or us supporting her, the fights she always was there even in the none trust trial and lastly we were quite often litterally told to stand aside and let her do what only she as the leader should do, which for me is fine simply because power scaling wise the wol is a monster for the writers i guess exspecially if you want to start the next arc in a way where you do not want to have our enemy and the stakes be something that power wise is stronger than despair personafied, sonce staring slower lets you build up a story once again
BUT i also understand if people are kinda dissapointed with the player taking such a beackseat in comparrison to pretty much all the other expansions and did not enjoy being forced to be the support this time since it is a self insert MMO which normally does put the players in the main active roles
This is the first expansion that WoL become a mentor, real mentor to Wuk Lamat. We already beat the cosmic side enemy, this is our time to take part as mentor.
@@bebekkurushonestly I would have liked for at least one section where we try to do things as usual only for it to blow up in our face, showing that even for as experienced as we are we are still fallible and have room to grow as a mentor. Even if it’s piss off pretty much the entire fanbase lol.
@@stitches1110 Haha.. yeah, it would be great to show Lamat’y that failure is a common things and how to handle it.
@@bebekkurus exactly. And given how many parallels to shadowbringiners there are in heritage lost on, you’d think that the wol would be more open to speaking with Wuk Lamat about his experiences with Emet, and his own battle over the lives of two civilizations.
The WOL this expansion was the sleeping eldritch horror just waiting for someone to try something lol
High school musical x FFXIV let's go
Wild Cats! Everywhere!
This is apparently 'Black Gospel'.. Sena Bryer is delusional lol
i thought this was a song from The Greatest Showman lol
This but the video is compilations of every death in Dawn trail, including His son's phantom
Holy crap this song is hilariously awful.
Soken tricked me into liking Christian Rock the last few expansions, I think I can enjoy gospel too.
I admit this song threw me the first time I heard it but after a few listens I have to say i really like it.
Definitely feels like it embodies the tone of the expansion.
I won't pretend to know WHY we went for a Broadway Musical vibe with this song but I'm about it. Don't think we've had something like this in this game yet?
The 12 raid series was essentially that.
the dissonance of the vocals is so jarring
im kinda neutral to the song. i feel it’s a weird tonal after what we essentially did in the last zone. it’s reminds me of that one song from that circus movie that came out a short while ago
THE GREATEST SHOWMAN. THAT EXPLAINS IT. I knew the sound of the chorus was making me think of something, and you're so right.
Alexandria's legacy will carry on in the hearts of those who yet live.
This literally sums up what dt is about. A lead writer who tried to make a theatre style story and who is known for very bad side stories
After the beautiful music from Endwalker this seems like someone's idea of a sick joke lol like really poor tone and embarrassing vocals. Digguh tunnel vibes.
A bit too Disney for my taste. The song itself is fine, but i couldnt bear it being paired with the train montage 😂
I guess im the only one who really liked this song???
Seems like it, I hope you get well soon though.
You and the shills for Wuk Lamat's English VA.
I absolutely love it too. I don't get all the hate for this song... I mean, it's not my favorite, but I think it's really fitting for Dawntrail who is supposed to be a more chill and happy story compared to ShB and Endwalker
@@realname8362I hope you find the whimsy and curiosity missing from your life ❤
I like part of it, and then not so much the other parts.
I dont really get the hate for this song. I dig it. To me it represents the heart of FFXIV as a whole and made me feel a lot and the train scene was fun. It's not flow but it never promised to be. It's different, it's fun, and I will gladly listen to it along with the many other amazing music this game has given me over the last 10 years! :)
Amen. Someone speaking my language finally. I really took this expac to be my WoL's vacation anyways.
I like the song, but having it play whilst turning the train into a bomb was the funniest tonal whiplash I've ever had
It’s just cool to hate everything dawntrail for some reason.
@@concentratedregret6394 It was a scene about multiple walks of people coming together to work towards their salvation I don't get how it is that bad of a whiplash
Troonoids like this btw
I know a lot of people are torn on this, but I think the OST fits. The not so subtle message of the final zone (at least to me) is about letting go of the past and learning to move on/how it's okay to let go, and this song invokes the imagery of a "new day" or a rising sun, which fits into that perfectly. That, and the imagery also doubles as an "and now that this storm has passed, we can look forward to the future (next patches)."
You mean the literal thing we already learned in Flow and Close in the Distance? I don't think that lesson needed to be repeated.
@@ryu-kazuki698 true, this entire expansion is just a rehash of ShB and EW's thesis but completely washed down
@@KanemiX3 that's one of my biggest gripes with it. It feels like it's diminishing the message we just learned, makes light of their importance, and completely disregards the sanctity of the messages we were learning especially when it comes to loss and being able to move on knowing that the only memory you have of that is with you and that's why it's precious.
@@KanemiX3 probably an unpopular take, but while DT definitely retread familiar ground, imo, it gaps END in the end because there was actually loss and consequence on the part of our party.
I always hated how the Scions dying was this big fake out "lol JK they were alive and now they're praying for your success!" It felt like them taking a cheap emotional blow where they could w/o committing to it because losing Yshtola would deal a devastating blow to Square or smth.
@@T8-TR"Scions dying was this big fake out"
_Papalymo would like to know your location._
Good god, even autotune couldn't save this sht
it's good though.
This is kind of ass, what happened to FFXIV music in this expansion?
Really good for the most part, raids all have great themes, but this is so bad 🤣
The main vocals are a little weird but besides that I don't get the hate for the song at all. Everyone just says "its a Disney movie song" but I don't get why that's bad. I think FF players just expect every main expac vocal theme to be a sad aria like Flow or Dragonsong.
Why are the back singers loud as hell?
This song felt really weird at first but the more I listen to it the more it grows on me. Not sold for the choice during the msq, still feels not deserved? A bit not fitting?
Gonna replay it soon and see how it feels again.
I like that the music direction was wildly different and I feel this tune growing on me, but I will admit, coming off the coattails of EW, I will say I was hoping from something a bit different. That being said the expansion makes up for it with some other great tracks.
This theme was SO unexpected and I was obsessed from the moment I first heard it midway through msq. The music has consistently just gotten better and better every expansion. Soken is absolutely brilliant!
Theres a part of me that hopes we get a more combat-oriented version of this(Like Flow into Flow Together), during some sort of battle where positive Dynamis is overflowing from us and our allies, or maybe a friendly battle with Wuk Lamat, Koana, and Bakool Ja Ja
me when cider spider disconnects
This reminds me about the type of bangers we got from FF13-2
Honestly, the real problem with the song are the vocals. They're too disney and gospel like. Just the melody with a more mellow set of vocals would have worked much better.
...yeah, but why at the train montage???... so weird
because its the entirety of Tural coming together in a moment of crisis as a community.
@@midgetsnowmanno it's just the western part lol. Like literally a couple of people
People mean to this expansion while they forget that THIS is a build-up story expansion after the long and depressed and hopeful 5 saga expansions end. Please, you cannot top the Endwalker-saga with just one expansion.
No sorry. Anyone who makes this argument is incredibly off base or doesnt understand what good writing entails. It has absolutely nothing to do with "build up". Taken as an isolated narrative, it was incredibly weak. Do the same with HW or ShB for example and the same is entirely untrue. Stakes do not make or break a story, you can absolutely write a great story with new characters, locations and events, etc etc. This was not it. Not by a long shot. Regardless of what future stuff they are "setting up"
here is me who loves this expansion, probably my favorite expac as a whole, SHB and EW were peak story, but DT was PEAK in everything else
@@blackandwhiteduo4971 Same, i'm an oldhead from eaerly HW and I still love this expac so far
@@Exeeter1234 You have NO idea what good writing is. Building up a plot is LITERALLY an integral part of any good story, without exception. ALL isolated narratives are "weak" if they amount to nothing else, or are designed to not amount to anything else.
Stop pretending you're an expert. It's embarrassing to watch.
This part is especially sad:
>This was not it. Not by a long shot. >>>Regardless
@@optimaltt6070 Yeah! You can't say that it sucked because we haven't seen the next three expansions yet! That would be like watching a 30 hour long movie and saying that you didn't enjoy it when you haven't even seen the sequels! Your opinion is invalid! But of course mine that says that it was good is fine. /s
Definitely not my favorite expansion theme, but the energy is perfect for the beginning of a new era
I wasn’t expecting gospel music but it’s oddly fitting for the feeling of “togetherness” that Dawntrail inspired
Man this song is so good it has a disney vibe
This is not black gospel... what is this music???
This is so, so bad. It's embarrassing.
Isn't subjective opinion a beautiful thing.
I respectfully disagree.
Not the best song in the game by far, but it's nice.
ok main character syndrome sufferer
@@lj_aderyn She sings off tune and nasal. How is it "nice"? o.O
I just love so much how you can hear the "Close in the distance" theme in this one. Every new journey builds upon a legacy we lived through. No memories are forgotten. We are who we are because we are formed by everything we live through
Rare Soken L
I was hoping to see the part of the mix from the trailer get made into a full ost, the part with the lyrics "just imagine what's around the bend"
fuck the haters i still like this song
minus a couple of bits like the "woah yay" was a lil much but i STILL LIKE THE SONG idk man
Sadly, although I respect everyone’s opinion on this, I can’t get behind it. The chorus is jarring, the pace sounds like they tried to make it like Moana’s ‘How Far I Go’ without sounding like it. It’s a P to the U for me.
I'm sorry but no..the vocals are so weak you can't even tell what they are singing the majority of the time.
I can’t be the only one who thinks of that one “let it grow” song from the Lorax right??
At least the content is good.
The sturcture of the music is fantastic especially the harmony part, but I feel like the singer's tone is kind of sharp and tight(and a bit disorder) whenever she's soloing like does she the same singer from SHB and EW I just kind of feel like the quality doesnt match with the pre credit themes
I mean, it’s a japanese singer trying to do an english language musical styled song. There’s gonna be some bumpy sections.
I’m excited for when lyrics get released so the eng fluent cover artists can get their hands at this musical number.
@@crowolf3862wait I thought she’s the English singer
@@yazsenpai This isn't Amanda, the lead singer here is AKINA who also did the vocals for Scream
Edit: AKINO, not AKINA
@@hexenvexen AKINO*
Dawntrail MSQ defenders will try to claim this song is perfect and was not comically out of place whatsoever in any of the scenes it played in, or try to claim it being comically out of place was the point all along because this is supposed to be the fun vacation expansion.
There is like no consistency of the music in this game, what do people mean out of place, one time we have lofi, next we have dad rock, I get people not liking the song, but that statement is whack.
@@Sassjor
It's not the genre that's out of place. It's the tone. A bunch of people working together to strap wood to a train does not warrant some Lion King type music. It was out of place for the scene, as I specified in my comment, not just the game in general.
Its not comical., its a song about community and bonds. Just because you'rre dead inside doesnt mean the game has to be.
@@midgetsnowman
Ah yes, you're right, I'm sorry for not being so hyper-emotional that I just get lost in the moment and don't even pay any mind to how out of place the song feels in the scenes it plays in. My bad for being grounded enough that I can actually notice flaws in things.
@@damir_van_kalaz Nah, you're good. Not everyone has bad taste like the defenders here lmao
lmao skipping this expac was a good idea after all
this has so much infectious campfire energy
church gospel meets disney