Are Sea Ray Boats Worth It (A Review of Sea Ray Bow Riders, Cruiser, Deck Boats and More!)
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In 1998 my late father bought a new sea ray signature 210 bow rider. My dad passed away 8 years ago and I continue to maintain it and run it about every weekend in the summer with my family. 500 hours on it and can personally attest to the build quality how it’s help up over the years.
Sea Ray made amazing quality boats between 2004 and 2012. To me those were the best years to get a quality Sea Ray.
Sea rays are top tier boats we have a 2001 signature and still runs like it’s new and the fiberglass and interior holds up great
Hey Capt. Matt!, Just wanted to thank you for all the videos and advice! I ended up buying a 1992 Sea Ray 200BR with the 5.7. It only had 217 hours on it and the floor was rock solid over every square inch. It was always stored inside and there wasn't even a stain in the ski locker carpet. It runs like a champ and has that classic beauty. Thanks again!
We recently got a 98 searay 185 with the 4.3, similar hours and condition. Definitely a well built craft.
I really appreciated this one, people who ride with us really like it because like you said it rides really smooth. The brochure I have from 1964 says they were built 35% heavier than other boats in its class for better stability and smoother ride. I’m trying to rebuild it in my spare time I really like this boat.😁😁👍👍
I’ve been looking at several Sea Rays from 20 to 24 foot and your information on the Sea Ray has me sold on buying one now. Keep up the great videos and all your experience.
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Great history lesson! We have a 1972 SRV-190 with a 455 Olds and a Berkley Jet pump. From what I have researched this is a pretty rare option. I am in the process of replacing the stringers and floor but was very impressed with the material quality. Great boat!
I bought a used 2008 175 sport 2 years ago which was very well maintained by previous owner. It's such a great boat especially compared to a friend's 175 bayliner. The Kia to mercedes analogy is spot on, even in a small runabout. It's absolutely solid even in some moderate chop. Not big enough for sections of the big lake (Superior) but for smaller lakes it is awesome. Will be upsizing in the next couple of years. Love the boat and the brand. Great video!
Great review, the pros and cons. My first boat was a 1973 with the 302 ford/ mercruiser 188. Purchased in mid ‘90’s, sold 10 years later. Currently have 1989 Sunrunner 19 ft cuddy.
Great history and review, like others, keep this content coming. Love to see info on the top 5 center consoles
Just got my first boat this year 94 BR200 Signature. Floors solid and well maintained. 374 hours as of yesterday. Absolutely in love for a first boat experience, and for the steal price of 7,000 it’s hard to say no to the value in the boat.
Much appreciated. I'm a Sea Ray fan, owning a 2000 Signature 230. It's on Lake George in the Adirondacks, and is a perfect entry level boat for this 32 mile long lake. My next boat will be a 260 Sundancer, when I can find one. There are no good used boats out there in my area.
As far as the big lakes go, the mid to late ‘80’s and early 90’s 250, 268, 270 Sundancers are some of the best boat out there. So well built that you still see dozens, if not hundreds of them no matter which of the Great Lakes you boat on. I bought my 1989 250 SA back in 1996 with the 260 Merc/Alpha and I still have it and haven’t had any major issues. These boats were perfect for the typical blue collar boater because they’re easy to maintain and pretty much bulletproof, plus very affordable in the used market and still sturdy enough to handle the big water and plenty enough room for a family.
Yes, especially the bowriders are very easy selling. People love them and you tell us, why. Thanks for this super review!
Thanks for this awesome video, so much value in your experience with Sea Ray boats! I am researching Sea Ray 260s from 2001 to 2009, and Bayliner 265 same years, and I find the price difference is $20-30K more for the same size Sea Ray. After this video, I'm going to pay the extra for the Sea Ray. I'm in Canada, west coast.
I have a 89 200 cuddy redone from hull up and re designed Sweet Love it..
Real happy with my “weekender 22.5” 2001great for overnite camping on the river or inside port. It’s much lighter than Sundancers with no wasted space in back. Trailerable to lake Havasu AZ or a weekend to Catalina Isl from Long Beach only a hour away.
Enjoyed this, thank you
What a wonderful video. I had the pleasure of having a 1995 220 Signature Bowrider 454… what a joy. I’m looking for another, however, perhaps a few years newer. Thank you so much for the thoughtful guidance! Dave McGeary
Awesome video….would love to see more videos like this. Cobalt, Chapp, and Regal next please!!!
Back when Brunswick opened the plant in Knoxville, we would ski around where they tested the new Pachangas on Tellico Lake. They would blow by us at high speed all the time.
Wanna give shout out to Matt and how he goes over different models.Thanks for the education my man!✅💯💯
I have a 97 Sea Ray 175. It's been a great reliable boat. The interior has held up nicely. I have the 3.0 but it would be nice if it was a 4.3. Overall it does a good job.
I have the 98 175 5 series with the 125 Merc outboard.
I LOVE that boat, and so do all of my kids.
Every Sea Ray I've ever been on has been a super nice solid boat. The build quality is always exceptional. My only gripe with a Sea Ray is to me they always seem to have just enough power. They are not under powered, but they definitely will never be accused of being over powered. If I ever decided to get a cabin cruiser Sea Ray would be one of the first choices for me. Chris-Craft and Tollycraft would also be on the list depending on their drives.
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon i looked up the specs on the 19 and 22 ft pachanga. They are in the same weight range as my boat. Mine falls in between at 20.5 ft and the weight is 2250 lbs. The 19' pachanga is 2200 lbs. And the 23 is 2900 lbs. Considering that the pachanga has a far greater deadrise at the bow of the boat and I'm guessing at least 16" more of depth in the hull. My cuddy is 20". From what I have been able to find out the pachanga has about
36" of headroom. That amounts to a lot of extra fiberglass in terms of square inches. The Donzi Hornet 3 weighs in at 3150 and has a similar hull design to the pachanga with a slightly narrower beam. Also the 22 had an option of a 454 will a alpha outdrive. With that combination it seems to have been able to run a solid 62 mph. Pretty impressive. The hull design definitely is better suited for rough water. I don't think that you could go wrong with a Sea Ray that has been kept up. The quality of the upholstery always seemed to be a step above the competition as well.
I love your videos! What are your thoughts on older Sea Rays like the 1989 260 cuddy with 454? Or maybe the 260 overnighter? There's a ton a deck space so they are nice for entertaining.
I am looking at a 2010 175 sport. Thank you for the great content.
I have had a 96 searay on the water for 4 years now great boat
I was so hurt hurt because I'm a Rinker owner and loved that brand!
Every now & then I'll spot a 1990's Laguna Center Console on the water which are a bit left field, for Sea Ray but have pretty cool lines in my opinion.
Own a 2001 270DA. IMO it has one of the best cockpit layouts for that size range. Has a 9’2” beam big enough for a side dining table below but small enough to trailer without getting booked ( legal is 8’6). Been trailering it for 11 years cops behind me etc hard to tell 8” but makes a big difference in usability of the boat
Real happy with my cuddly cabin 22.5 ingenious designs small and simple. 5.0 I.O. Great at lake Havasu or a weekend at Catalina isl.
You are a bit incorrect with the merritt is. shutdown. They kept it and renamed it. They still produce boats there. They produce the 370 and 400 there.
Hi thank you for all your videos I’ve watch several Videos In regards What to look out for it when buying a used boat and what brands or boats for a first time buyer what should look out for and all that…
And So got to this video and base on the previous one I watched brought me into a conclusion / question.
Is the sea ray 98 to the 2003 the best more reliable bow riders to begin with?
Awesome video! Would love a video of best years to buy different boat brands. Certain years are clearly better than others. Four Winns, Cobalt, Crownline, SeaRay, Chap, Monterey, etc.
Glad I saw this because I was considering a SPX, which is thousands of dollars above a comparably equipped Yamaha, but I’m not making that jump for a boat built in Mexico.
Great video. I just sold my 1990 BR signature for over half what a paid for it 30 years ago. Loved that boat and always stored inside. Only reason I sold it was I upgraded to a newer 260 sundeck for the lake. Sad day letting that bright red bow rider go.
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon it was a 135 Black Max OB. Awesome motor
I don't know anything about boats, but I fell in love with Sundancer 2007 ❤
Marine Max (HZO) stock has dropped about 30% since May, about the time they bought Cruisers. I met you a few times at boat shows when you were at Lake Wylie Marina. I've wanted a boat for awhile but my wife wants house paid off 1st. I like Sea Ray, Regal, 4 winns.
"Are Sea Ray Boats Worth It?" Hmm... 96 Thumbs Up, 0 Thumbs Down.... "I'm going to bet he says they are".... 97 thumbs up :)
RUclips took away the thumbs down numbers
I’m friends with a lot of charter captains down in the Caribbean and Florida. Every time I brought up sea ray to them they told me to never get one because they were built bad. Interesting to hear a different perspective.
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon most would usually run both pleasure and fishing charters. All was in the saltwater though and that’s obviously a lot harder on the boats than fresh. Maybe some were just used to how hard they could push their center consoles. Most recommended formula though for pleasure boats.
I had a 1990 21 foot Cuddy Cabin awesome boat solid
Love your videos. Could you do a review on a Sea Ray Amberjack 290? Thank you.
I really want a 280 Sundancer but now thinking a center console with outboard less maintenance but really wanted a cabin kitchen and head
Big fan of a lot of sea rays. Never owned one, but they’ve been in the running on several boat purchases.
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon really love the new chaparrals couple of big bow riders next to ours. Great classic lines
Thanks for making the best boat videos on RUclips!! Here where I live (Puerto Rico) we do 100% salt water boating. Do you think Sea Ray it’s a trust worthy ocean boat or it’s more a lake boat?
On my 3rd boat, 1989 Sea Ray 200BR. Had it for 15 years. Functionally it is a nice boat and works well. My biggest complaint is the twin swim platforms, just not practical. Overall a good performer even with the 4.3 LX. Now that my family is growing, my next boat will likely be a 2000's 240 Sundeck. I really like the design.
New zealand here, I'm looking at similar model and year. How's the gelcoat holding up on yours?
@@ttm2609 The gelcoat on most of it is really nice. There is a section in the back where it looks like it was repaired at one time and that part doesn't look great. Been a great family boat for us. I recently bought a 2002 220 Sundeck which I really like. So much more room but it is big and heavy compared to my 200BR.
Any opinion on the 1997 175BR with the 3.0? I'm looking at one this week and not sure of the condition.
I have a 1987 Sea Ray Seville 175, my father in law ordered it brand new. It sat in his mothers garage for 17 years when I talked him into selling it to me two years ago. It looks brand new and only had 60 hours it when I got it. Went thought and replaced all of the belts, hoses, impeller, etc... Put fuel in it and it fired within 30 seconds. Love it, call it my Time Machine.
I just bought a 1991 sea ray 186 bowrider with a 4.3 Chevrolet V6 mercruiser and lets say sea ray boats are the Cadillac of boats its hard to believe that a 30+year old boat looks almost as new as a new model got a good deal on it too...just my 2 cents good video
Sea Ray really did know how to make a great bow rider.
I have a great condition 1995 searay Laguna 21. Really like it.
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon apparently from my understanding from a couple people on the hull truth Sea Ray stop production on the Laguna line because Brunswick bought Boston whaler and they did not want the brands to compete. A lot of people don't know about the Laguna line but they are massive for their size well-built heavy boats I get so many compliments a lot of people say they never knew Sea Ray made center consoles.
Seeing a lot Seaswirl and Rinker's showing up for sale as trade-ins at different dealers across the country:two at Chapporalle dealer and one at at Scout dealer.
I’m looking at an 04 sundeck 200 with a 5.0. How is that year and model
You forgot the SR / SRV series. I have a 1970 SRV 190 nearly restored but will be on the water this summer.
Im thinking about getting a sea ray in the 26 to 30 foot range.
Matt could you please do a story on the Rinker's?I like those boats alot very comparable to sea ray some models
I'm looking at a 1996 Sea Ray Laguna 16. Any good?
Their 250 deck boat is my dream boat!!!
Merrit island still open i just dropped off a mold there. And its not Knoxville its vonore tn.
So late 90s boat be a good buy then and maybe little love into it you have a cool older boat
There are a lot more pontoon boats and center console boats, including bay boats, on the market now. Im sure both of these greatly effected companies like Sea Ray.
Good review, only wish you would have mentioned the Sea Ray Select models and elaborated on them.
You should do one of these videos, but for Cobalt boats. Would be massively appreciated.
i love the good old sea ray
Can you recommend a great company that restores/works on the Pachanga models ? Thank you.
Not sure... Where are you located and what needs restoring? Gel coat, engine, interior?
Can you make a video like this about baja boats
I'm in the market for a Sea Ray 170. I found a 1994 that I fell in love with. It is immaculate. The boat looks like it was built yesterday right down to the vinyl seating that doesn't have a blemish anywhere. The whole boat has been well maintained including the motor. It comes with a Monster Tower, cockpit and bow covers, new stereo system, and a Shoreland'r trailer also in pristine condition. The price is where I want to be. After I found this boat I saw a RUclips video of a dealer selling a 1997 and he said that there is no wood in the stringers or hull that it's solid fiberglass. Do you know this to be true? I know the Sea Ray encapsulated wood structures are solid as you said but if I could buy a boat without wood in it's structure I think I would lean toward the 1997. Thoughts?
I once wanted a Sundancer real bad but with work I was working 26 weekends so I just did not have the time to use it. I hope to fix that in the next few years. I did take a tour of the Knoxville plant and I was surprised how few boats were being built.
I’m 6’2 looking at a cruiser what would you suggest for year and model used 280 290 300 310 330 I really don’t want over 33’ this would mostly be my wife and Me using it ? I will be boating the Mississippi River by Dubuque IA
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon Yes I have watched that video.
Did you that Rinker shut down for good last year?
I thought Chaparral boats bought Bayliner Boats. Did they just buy the plant in Valdosta Georgia.
Nope, Brunswick bought Bayliner way back in the 80's. Not sure about the plant in Valdosta
Great video, I’m looking at 2 sea rays a 1992 240BR with 454 has a small soft spot in the floor
Or
2000 180BR No known issues
Same price, any advice? 🤔
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon it’ll be my first boat, me & the wife and kids just cruising around, tubing , anchoring by the sandbar with other friends. Would like to keep my first boat for a long time 5-8years
Sea Ray was a good boat. Then in 2015 when I was looking for a boat. I looked at Sea Ray. AndI looked at a 21’ well they said it was a 21’. The boat from tip of front to the end of transmission the boat was only 19’ with a 2.5’ swim platform. They called it a 21’.
When did sea ray stop using wood stringer
IMO, the biggest change in design was the elimination of the side deck beginning in '99 in the small cruisers under 25' ... so the only access to the bow was through the windshield. Really hate that. When cruising with canvas up in my 230 Weekender, it's nice to access the bow through a zipper in the side curtain instead of unbuttoning the top canvas and exposing the deck to rain. Not worth the extra few inches of cabin space, imo
Sea ray makes the Honda civic of lake boats
You mentioned Bayliner and Tahoe as 2 of the lower end boats in build quality. What about Yamaha? I'd like to see a video on their processes. Thank you.
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon Yes, I'm going to watch again. Thanks
That's a great video Matt. I must of watched a different one.
What do you think about the mid to late 80’s 300 weekender boats
The weekender has tunnel pockets for the inboards and doesn’t have a mid cabin. I was asking cause it seems like the perfect boat big cabin for the family and plenty of deck space for fishing. Just was curious about build quality and ride. I was always told the mid 80’s rays were built Like tanks
I believe the 230SPX is build in Reynosa as well.
230s up to 350s are built in Vonore,Tn. That is where I currently work.
I'm on my 3rd Sea Ray. I will have a 4th.
Hi Was the Amberjack not an express cruiser style, not a Sundancer. They also made Express cruisers.
My 390 was one of there most popular I am told..Yes they were solid!
We have a small maker in.British Columbia, Campion and I would own a used 682 Explorer from 2003 on, now the Ex240.
There is no wood in their sandwiched bull that includes some Kevlar!
I would want twin outboards for safety on Lake Superior!
But at age 78, and about 190K I can only dream!
I had lots of fun in my 30 Dancer and in my 390!!
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon I am thinking of earlier maybe 1982, a 25 foot boat that had a single mercerized, I think a 260 but it was underpowered. My neighbour had it for years and I always thought it was done on the cheap side! Your. 27 was a better boat for sure. An acquaintance had one here….
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon Do you feel like the Amberjack concept was the best of both worlds or the master of none? Thanks
I remember in the late 80s early 90s I wanted a pachanga 32 sooo bad
I had a 1972? Searay weekender back in 1980 that boat to me was the best boat out of all of the boats I owned perfect SeaRay weekend Had a small block 350 totally mint condition looking up the weekenders now they’re in pretty rough shape but I would love to restore one
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You never mentioned the weekender why is that?
I love Sea Ray but I have to say they haven’t made a good looking bow rider since 2011. The new ones are ugly, you have to spend a ton of money to get the SLX and the sport boat line looks cheap, like they should be sold at Walmart. The best years in my opinion was the 83 Seville 19’ and the 1999 to 2011 the 19’ to 22 foot models all looked sweet! Now they suck ass and I would never buy one the way they look now. I’d say the best looking boats on the market today are the Regal LS4 and LS6 models. Also the Bryant Calandra 23.5” is a beautiful boat. I’d much rather have one of those sweet looking boats vs the sea ray with the ugly top lines. Just my opinion that is obviously correct!
I own a Kia Cadenza, I have no problems with my automobile whatsoever.
They all are built with a soft spot around the ski locker from the factory.
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon I wish I could post pics. I had a 1995 signature 210 that started with a soft spot in the floor and I ended up with me replacing the floor along with the stringers and transom. I couldn’t believe that such a nice looking boat with all the higher end accessories and hardware could be built on foundation of “lies” (plywood) . I ran it for years after but seeing a Sea Ray now just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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I have sworn off owning a blue boat no matter who makes it. I’ve switched to yellow (Monterey) and I’m not looking back.
I believe Maine max bought cruisers... prob cause of their cantious line of larger cruisers cause Sea ray dipped out
What are your thoughts on Crownline?
Thank you for the input. We have orders a 240 SS. They seem to have a lot of standard options compared to other brands. So far it has been a pleasant experience.
@@nickpasler2629 the new 240 ss base price seems like an awesome value, no other manufacturer offers anything close from the reasearch ive done, big 24 foot v8 bowrider for $70k nicely optioned, id be really excited if i were you
They offer DTS standard for 2022 which I was really excited about as well. Thank you for the input guys.
The 03 compare Sea Rays compare to the Fiesta Vee (the one you have a picture of)
I worked for Marine Max as the delivery capt back in 03 04 era I have driven them all and here is my take
180 good boat, very small; be great on real small lake. Garageable
185. Better. Get the 4.3 model and full size engine cover Also Garageable
200 sport Get the 5.0 motor and a full size engine cover / sun pad ( my current boat)
205 sport Same All sport boats this era no bolstered seats. Ugh
All SLX boats are fire Carpet, smart craft electronics and nicer seats with bolsters
Sundancers.
260 too small get a 280
280. Get twin 4.3 over the single motor
290 Amber Jack. Odd boat. They did not make many. It’s very niche Based on the 280
300. Great boat
320 bigger great boat
340 is beast Bring your check book for gas Twin 8.1’s
360 get the diesels. Do not get the gas. It will eat you out of house and home
360 Sedan Bridge spacious boat. Excellent. Very tall. Get Diesels again
Everything above this is awesome. Especially the 420 and 500
awesome, thanks for sharing your experience!
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon I just realized I left off all the Sundecks. You can’t go wrong with any Sundeck. It appears that category of buyer has moved into pontoons.
Waiting to pick up a 2011 175 sport with 103 hours …. I have high expectations
Yes I'm upgrading to an outboard from stern drive fiesta vee
In fresh water can't decide between aluminum or fiberglass-just wanted to to drop a few jems on you ,I have been doing a search for different types of boats in different states (basically Midwest states Wisconsin, Michigan,Ohio and Illinois) and what I have found is Ohio and Michigan seem to have to the least amount of inventory right now July check your data on but even dealers that I have bought stuff from still look somewhat skimpy right now.
If you like aluminum fishing boats then Wisconsin has what you want.They also have nice cruisers along with Illinois
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon that sounds good really interested in learning more about negotiating because their excuse is the chip shortage even with cash in hand and I get it about not peeping your whole card letting them know you're paying cash
I'm also seeing some great inventory poping up around the Cleveland area!
Yeah they're good solid boats but like a lot of other brands they are not mechanic friendly
I don't understand why you would cancel something that is almost 1/4 or 25% of your sales! I would understand if you said they were only selling less than 100 but, 25%.
On another note... we had a 2003 220 bowrider and it was solid. We had the main waterline going to the engine come off one time and it filled the engine compartment up with water and killed the battery but, the swim platform never went under water. Got it home, checked all the fluids, took it to the shop to do a complete run through and change all fluids and check all hoses. Not bad.
I thought the 650 express and fly were pretty popular. I haven't done any research, it's just my opinion.
I like how you do your videos. I've watched most of them. Mainly the ones that pertains to my boats or the boats I would like and am satisfied with the amount of info that you have on the subjects. I've watched a lot of the bowrider and pontoon videos because I have or had them. I would like to see more center console content. It seems like the center consoles are the new best thing, both fiberglass and aluminum. I have seen them on the rivers and lakes that I run and of course out in Galveston Bay. On the lakes I've even seen people tubing behind them. I'm very interested in the excel and xpress aluminum 22'-24' cc and the 25'-27' fiberglass from an affordable but reliable maker. I like the Mako boats because they are a Bass Pro and Cabelas product so they are easy to find and get serviced but, any other hard-core boater will tell you they're bottom of the line just like suntracker. What are your thoughts on those picks??
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon keep doing the great videos. If you ever get a chance to make it to Texas, Houston has a pretty good boat show.
What about the aluminum boats
I meant in general what do you think about aluminum boats.
When you offer a product priced at the six figure range with some nearing or at seven figures there is absolutely no reason not to use high quality materials. The marginal cost for higher quality cannot be that major difference. A boat costing $350,000 rather than $340,000 cannot hurt sales that much, and frankly quality sells, and a cheap feeling at these price points is in my opinion … toxic. Use the stainless, better resins and alternate materials. Anyone who balks at a few bucks more a month for better quality and reliability should not be on the water or move down a few feet in length.
@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon precisely, that is why excellent products become, average products. Boat companies need to be run my boat crazies, not accountants. An excellent, well designed, well made product will always be diluted by an unchecked business bureaucracy, the CEO must insist on the pursuit of excellence in all phases of the product. It is all about the product, particulary with high end, low production items like larger boats. If you manufacture $300,000 Yugos, you deserve your fate.
I can say I don’t see any newer sea rays around my lakes in Missouri. However, plenty of Regal, Chap and Cobalt. I do love some of the interior layouts on the Sea Ray boats now, but honestly I feel like they have some of the worst looking boats on the market right now. Not a fan of the new styling
Marine max sells so many sea rays yet marine max bought cruisers yachts. Interesting….
If they make in Mexico count me out
And those are nice boats too!
He must be the best interviewer,he's got over two million subscribers I'd like to see an average Joe get those types of numbers!