I think there's a young Diana in another AT video. At least it seems to me she's a young Diana. It's a video with Patrick MacDonald. I was watching it distractedly when I realized: omg, is she Diana?
This was a kind of "Alexander Technique All-Stars" gathering. 3rd generation teachers like Diana and Anthony Kingston were unlikely to have been present.
It should be Marjory, not Marjorie. Marjory Barlow was Alexander's niece, Marjorie Barstow was the first person to sign of for Alexander's first training course.
That’s because of the way she has trained herself in the Alexander Technique for decades. Just listening to her makes my body line up better. It’s reflected in her voice. It’s contagious in a good way.
This is my first awareness of the two similar names. I think it was Marjorie Barstow who taught the weekend workshop in Philadelphia that I attended 40-50 years ago. I remember it well.
Yes, Marjorie Barstow diluted and condensed the Alexander Technique into a weekend experience. It was nothing like the real thing. However, because it was so easy and instant, it became "The Alexander Technique" in the minds of people who had no clue what the real thing is.
AdellAstare Are you aware of this article about Kitty? and her invention of the order "Eyes free to go apart"?...She gave it to me as "My eyes are free to go apart and see from the point of vision"...Then she always followed it with a second order, a most surprising one..."I am free to breathe through my ears"...and likened it to fish breathing through their gills...She said "eventually things open up"...and I think that now, decades later, things are beginning to open up...seeinganew.tripod.com/id7.html
raythespian I appreciate the very interesting link. I hadn't heard of that order/direction before, and "eyes free to go apart produced a very benefical direction for me. I did work with Patrick Macdonald, one of the original members of Alexander's class, and for me, his work IS the Alexander Technique. Very precise yet full of heart.
I wonder if Marjory gets annoyed by having all these interruptions of questions from people in the audience when she is trying to work on the guy on the table.
I have to say, This is a demonstration class. The others in the room are supposed to ask questions. Its ok to be annoyed if you like. It’s also very simple to allow the others in the room to be part of the whole.
Great teaching. I have read book on Alexander technique but it is beyond my imagination. Reading a book is a Little help but what can an Alexander teacher do is just undescribable.
Dreamlicker you think it the AT is about your mind giving your body directions without actually doing , if you think without actually doing that is the AT don’t do then you are not achieving mind body connection, forcing correct posture is doing , it’s not that complex really , after awhile of giving your body directions it will train itself naturally, a teacher is needed to help you with this .
You're describing that's called muscle memory. To just do something without thinking about it because you're trained. This isn't doing anything. There is nothing changing. Nothing is happening. How the hell does a back even widen? Describe that for me, describe how a back physically widens and lengthens. This seems like a lot of New Age bullshit to me.
Dreamlicker yes it is muscle memory you are right spine to lengthen shoulders to open up would be a better direction, hands on from the teacher helps with the directions and muscle memory ... it is vague at times to the beginner but a British government medical board did an extensive study on AT and found it very beneficial for back pain , I think their finding is on you tube it was done around 10 years ago ... the head is so heavy on the spine it pulls the whole spine down which causes the spine to compress , you see so many people who hunch young and old especially with smart phones these days , if you look at a child sitting it’s amazing to see how straight they are and how the head floats on top of the spine forward and up ,one of nature’s true wonders !
Having done Alexander technique for 2 years I can see why this might be confusing. When she is talking about lengthening and widening she is referring to the fascia, not external muscles. The fascia is the inner most layer of muscle that does not respond to force or "doing". It's job is to simply keep us upright without effort. What happens though is through bad use we distort our fascia and end up using our external muscles to force what would otherwise be effortless movements. So the only way to release fascia is either through extreme deep tissue work or with habitual reconditioning. Alexander technique focuses on the habits.
@@Andreazor she's getting him to stop tightening muscles he normally tightens. It sounds like new age bullshit because when you tell people just to let tension go, they don't. They try, but they can't feel where they're tightening the most because they do it too much. They're too used to it to notice. They actually end up tightening different muscles instead of letting the muscles in question go back to their normal length (and since some muscles go side to side: width). So you're hearing a bunch of verbal work-arounds designed to get him to actually stop tightening the muscles. Otherwise it backfires. To answer your first question, a back widens because a teacher helps you stop narrowing it. In one sense, you hit it on the head--nothing much is happening in the muscles. That's the whole point. For most people that's a HUGE change, because they're tense as shit all the time. GETTING it to the point where there's nothing much happening in the muscle other than resting muscle tone--without it backfiring--is the whole point.
I had some lessons with Marjorie back in the mid-80s. I remember her saying to me, "when you are about to put hands on someone, tell yourself that are not going to do anything to him." Or something like that. I've never forgotten that, yet I have to continually remind myself of it.
Genius. Doing nothing but convincing everyone something is happening. Lengthen bones and joints and everyone wants to pretend they know what that means. Genius
It seems that these Michael is the same Michael that has the copyright of the video, if you find on internet, you will see that he became a recognized alexander technique master.
Squito Watson lol no she made me wear all denim since that was in at the time. I had a denim button up long sleeve and denim pants. Or denim overalls with a denim jacket.
I've practiced doing this by myself . It can be relaxing but then I go straight back to bad habits. I wonder if a person practiced this everyday would it help with posture?
Chris Smith yeah, should have used their phones to go on Amazon and order one cheap. Video quality is horrible too. Clearly not using a 4k resolution camera. You’d think this was 1986 or something.
Sean O I really don’t see how this whole Alexander Technique thing is a cult, unless cult means “a group of people who believe something which I don’t believe in”.
Sean O it seems cultlike in the way its teaching things that make no sense, but everyone keeps repeating it as if they understand it. There seems to be no actual medical science in this.
Conscious direction... could be "free neck", " I am free". Essentially a conscious projection or instruction (thought) before making a movement. Could also be " stop drooping your neck and pulling your head back" aka inhibition.
I'm not saying it dosen't work.Clearly does for some but whatever....there is something very mysterious about this technique and those who practice it.Or so it seems to me anyway.
This is the perfect Ensemble, for when you're teaching a Workshop in the AM, and going on African Safari in the PM.
I love that old school wired Lav Mic
yes
The head/neck/back relationship must not quarrel with one another. Its a series of triangles we call triangles.
LMFAO... Its not like that circular thing, we call a circle.
They teach you this when it's your turn to take what they call....turns.
Oh dear, it’s come to this for me.
Establish it was your face
She died
“As hard as ever you can,” is such a British turn of phrase. I like it.
The world was lovelier when people like this were in the world. Seems like there are none left in the world perhaps
One of Michael Palin's finest roles.
SO... MUCH... BEIGE
Sam Drury 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭
That's the 80's for ya. Brown and beige. We still hadn't drifted away from the war time state of mind regarding fashion bizarrely.
😂😂😂👌🏼
@@deancaputa4221 He's talking nonsense, considering the 70's were the most colourful decade ever!
Queen of Beige
Very relaxing to watch and listen to but I must admit that I have no sweet clue what she ever actually did to this guy for an hour.
well, he didnt die so it must be a success.
She established a navy suit for sandwich breath.
@@donswanson2303 Neither she nor the patient were red in the face.
I wonder if a young Diana was in the crowd at this conference.
I think there's a young Diana in another AT video. At least it seems to me she's a young Diana. It's a video with Patrick MacDonald. I was watching it distractedly when I realized: omg, is she Diana?
This was a kind of "Alexander Technique All-Stars" gathering. 3rd generation teachers like Diana and Anthony Kingston were unlikely to have been present.
Effort. Less.
Who do you think was filming this..... 😆
And Geeta was studying the law even back then.
QUEEN of Khaki
Lying down work is my favourite type of work
It should be Marjory, not Marjorie. Marjory Barlow was Alexander's niece, Marjorie Barstow was the first person to sign of for Alexander's first training course.
Robert Rickover Thanks for clarifying the confusion of the similar names.
Robert Rickover very useful information thank you!
Wrong
This was worth it just scroll through this comment section. It's straight gold.
I would be fast asleep after 5 minutes in this class.
This is great ASMR :)
That’s because of the way she has trained herself in the Alexander Technique for decades. Just listening to her makes my body line up better. It’s reflected in her voice. It’s contagious in a good way.
She seemed like such a pleasant woman
This is my first awareness of the two similar names.
I think it was Marjorie Barstow who taught the weekend workshop in Philadelphia that I attended 40-50 years ago. I remember it well.
Yes, Marjorie Barstow diluted and condensed the Alexander Technique into a weekend experience. It was nothing like the real thing. However, because it was so easy and instant, it became "The Alexander Technique" in the minds of people who had no clue what the real thing is.
AdellAstare Also, ages ago, I had private lessons/sessions with Katherine Wielampolska (Kitty) in her home in Philadelphia.Was that "the real thing"?
raythespian Yes, indeed it was. Lucky you.
AdellAstare Are you aware of this article about Kitty? and her invention of the order "Eyes free to go apart"?...She gave it to me as "My eyes are free to go apart and see from the point of vision"...Then she always followed it with a second order, a most surprising one..."I am free to breathe through my ears"...and likened it to fish breathing through their gills...She said "eventually things open up"...and I think that now, decades later, things are beginning to open up...seeinganew.tripod.com/id7.html
raythespian I appreciate the very interesting link. I hadn't heard of that order/direction before, and "eyes free to go apart produced a very benefical direction for me. I did work with Patrick Macdonald, one of the original members of Alexander's class, and for me, his work IS the Alexander Technique. Very precise yet full of heart.
The woman at 7:20 is like fruit loops in a bowl of cheerios
I wonder if Marjory gets annoyed by having all these interruptions of questions from people in the audience when she is trying to work on the guy on the table.
Don't know if she did, but I certainly did
It annoys me!!! Lol 😂
I have to say, This is a demonstration class. The others in the room are supposed to ask questions. Its ok to be annoyed if you like. It’s also very simple to allow the others in the room to be part of the whole.
ASMR Tingles peaking in 5...4...3...2..."MARJORIE?"
FM used to say AM is outdated
This still cracks me up
after all these years i'm still not sure if the neck should be free or if i should lock that shit down
"Bend your knees... NOW"
*Abruptly sits up and spins around*
Great teaching. I have read book on Alexander technique but it is beyond my imagination. Reading a book is a Little help but what can an Alexander teacher do is just undescribable.
So indescribable it's almost like it's nothing at all.
*beneath your imagination.
These people look like Thunderbirds.
Close your eyes and it could be Dame Judy Dench talking
10:58 Michael looks like he's thinking about those kids he has locked up in his cellar back home.
Uh… what?
How does a back lengthen and widen? All this seems like complete nonsense. It’s so vague.
Dreamlicker you think it the AT is about your mind giving your body directions without actually doing , if you think without actually doing that is the AT don’t do then you are not achieving mind body connection, forcing correct posture is doing , it’s not that complex really , after awhile of giving your body directions it will train itself naturally, a teacher is needed to help you with this .
You're describing that's called muscle memory. To just do something without thinking about it because you're trained. This isn't doing anything. There is nothing changing. Nothing is happening. How the hell does a back even widen? Describe that for me, describe how a back physically widens and lengthens. This seems like a lot of New Age bullshit to me.
Dreamlicker yes it is muscle memory you are right spine to lengthen shoulders to open up would be a better direction, hands on from the teacher helps with the directions and muscle memory ... it is vague at times to the beginner but a British government medical board did an extensive study on AT and found it very beneficial for back pain , I think their finding is on you tube it was done around 10 years ago ...
the head is so heavy on the spine it pulls the whole spine down which causes the spine to compress , you see so many people who hunch young and old especially with smart phones these days , if you look at a child sitting it’s amazing to see how straight they are and how the head floats on top of the spine forward and up ,one of nature’s true wonders !
Having done Alexander technique for 2 years I can see why this might be confusing. When she is talking about lengthening and widening she is referring to the fascia, not external muscles. The fascia is the inner most layer of muscle that does not respond to force or "doing". It's job is to simply keep us upright without effort. What happens though is through bad use we distort our fascia and end up using our external muscles to force what would otherwise be effortless movements. So the only way to release fascia is either through extreme deep tissue work or with habitual reconditioning. Alexander technique focuses on the habits.
@@Andreazor she's getting him to stop tightening muscles he normally tightens. It sounds like new age bullshit because when you tell people just to let tension go, they don't. They try, but they can't feel where they're tightening the most because they do it too much. They're too used to it to notice. They actually end up tightening different muscles instead of letting the muscles in question go back to their normal length (and since some muscles go side to side: width). So you're hearing a bunch of verbal work-arounds designed to get him to actually stop tightening the muscles. Otherwise it backfires. To answer your first question, a back widens because a teacher helps you stop narrowing it. In one sense, you hit it on the head--nothing much is happening in the muscles. That's the whole point. For most people that's a HUGE change, because they're tense as shit all the time. GETTING it to the point where there's nothing much happening in the muscle other than resting muscle tone--without it backfiring--is the whole point.
Still love marjorie awesome stuff R.i.P great woman
smurfarooney2003 she is still alive
@@trailerparksupervisor7046 Nope died in 2006
Justice Democrat 82594 nope, you are mistaken.
1995 she passed
@@trailerparksupervisor7046 She died December 5th 2006.
Seen a few of these videos and I'm still not sure what is happening?
Me either bro
Let me help you. Basically, it's bullshit....but quite relaxing and probably a level up from gemstone waving.
I had some lessons with Marjorie back in the mid-80s. I remember her saying to me, "when you are about to put hands on someone, tell yourself that are not going to do anything to him." Or something like that. I've never forgotten that, yet I have to continually remind myself of it.
😂 sounds ominous
Bullshit, sorry but yeah
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This woman looks like when she gets done here she will be off to hunt wild lions in the jungle somewhere
If this intro didn’t inspire Tarantino I don’t know what did
Still let the neck to be free in 2019
She reminds me of Charlotte Rampling a little bit.
What exactly is this about?
I’ve never met Michael before this…and nor has he met me…I know nothing about Michael.
Beautiful...now Michael ...you just farted didn't you....beautiful..let me scoop that fart
🤣😂🤣
Genius. Doing nothing but convincing everyone something is happening. Lengthen bones and joints and everyone wants to pretend they know what that means. Genius
Pretty much! 😆 Peaceful to fall asleep to though if nothing else.
And she even tells them her "favorite occupation is doing nothing."
"Ladies and gentlemen, the Alexander Technique!"
Barry Bonds was a rookie when this video was made... just so you know
I wonder if Micheal became an alexander master. And is teaching today?
It seems that these Michael is the same Michael that has the copyright of the video, if you find on internet, you will see that he became a recognized alexander technique master.
Damn, I just wanted to know if I had a little bit of lid lag...
Just quackery
The Placebo is strong with this one.
Khaki must have been the shit in the 80s
Better than being born in 92 and having my mom dress me in all denim as a child
StayHomeAndDoNOTHING sore subject for you? 😂 did your mom make you wear beige and khaki growing up or something?
Squito Watson lol no she made me wear all denim since that was in at the time. I had a denim button up long sleeve and denim pants. Or denim overalls with a denim jacket.
StayHomeAndDoNOTHING I felt that lol I was a 90s kid too so you name it it was denim 😂
It was a colour I believe
Michael wishes he wore smarter shoes that day.
I've practiced doing this by myself . It can be relaxing but then I go straight back to bad habits. I wonder if a person practiced this everyday would it help with posture?
No, but I'd bet after you would wish you had all that time back.
Im sitting more up straight now. Helps with my backpain after two children.
Cousin Marjorie!
There’s something else going on here but I can’t put my finger on it...
Cult vibes
She said it herself, her nervous system is very sensitive… it’s an intimacy of touch that is relaxing i guess. And to watch it is ASMR
Letcha neck be free and fall over
Letcha neck be free and fawl over
Couldn't they have sprung for the wireless lavaliere mic
Chris Smith yeah, should have used their phones to go on Amazon and order one cheap.
Video quality is horrible too. Clearly not using a 4k resolution camera. You’d think this was 1986 or something.
Contact with major bones. ..
Cults come in many forms.
Sean O I really don’t see how this whole Alexander Technique thing is a cult, unless cult means “a group of people who believe something which I don’t believe in”.
this is not cult yo. Its about posture. Its medicine.
Sean O it seems cultlike in the way its teaching things that make no sense, but everyone keeps repeating it as if they understand it. There seems to be no actual medical science in this.
If you actually try it, you'll see that it works, and people do it because it works, not because they're in a cult.
@bluetrinity haloseven I apologize.
Guess the year?
I'm saying 1994
1986. It says so in the video.
SchleimKeim77 that’s a pretty good guess, I say 1990
1872?
27:30
I think FM was a bit of a chancer.
Who's the fucking ZOMBIE at 21.20
''think more and do less''
What are orders?
And what does she mean "and allow this leg to deceive me"?
Conscious direction... could be "free neck", " I am free". Essentially a conscious projection or instruction (thought) before making a movement. Could also be " stop drooping your neck and pulling your head back" aka inhibition.
This is some of the craziest bullshit ive ever seen.
This seems like a fun cult
I think, she is Gary Barlow's (Take That) mom.
13:50
Their lack of social distance is really stressing me out.
I'm not saying it dosen't work.Clearly does for some but whatever....there is something very mysterious about this technique and those who practice it.Or so it seems to me anyway.
It's just about relieving tension and supporting muscle memory and posture it's nothing crazy..
Dear ATcongress2015. I recommend you turn off the the comment section on some of these videos
Things get extra weird at 48:30
Thank you for this 💎
Yeah totally, she corrected his twisted pelvis by squeezing his butt 😎👍
Her neck is definitely lengthened.
Hahahahaha 🤪🤣 soo cool
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Marjorie's fallen off her horse you say?
Free the neck … from what??!!
Different times. Marj making it up as she goes along rewarded by her doting cult followers.
I wonder if Mr Alexander gave old Majorie a lying down turn.
She his neice....
There's something very cult-ish about all this. I smell a Netflix documentary in the making.
Errr anybody else wondering why she looks like she's dressed for a safari? Haha
Michaels got a semi 🤮
money money
NONSENSE.
Did he blow a fart at 42? Jw
Scam!
Are you mad
Thats a man no question. Bye
Her belt is like non other … simply exquisite🤌🏿