For sure, I like natural also. However im not a stickler for it. Both natural and synthetic work well, but for different uses. Synthetic does seem to be more durable most of the time so there is that going for it. But natural also just has a different feel, and sometimes works better for getting bites. Anyway, glad you liked the video, thanks for the comment.
That's a true semi realistic pattern. Due to both realistic and traditional fly tying techniques. Now when I tie realistic one things I've used is monofilament fishing line to not only widen bodies but to also heat crimp them to shape to make legs. As for segmentation on the abdomen I use razor foam. Another thing you can use for a tail is porcupine quills and for the antennas horse hair works well.
That sounds cool, yeah I’ve never attempted realistic patterns. I mean the time it takes to tie them I’m sure is long, and then I’ve fished some before from someone’s box that had a few, and they didn’t seem to do so well for some reason. Not saying yours don’t. But I just never saw the need other than for like a display type fly. Your thoughts?
Your right they do take a long time to tie but that also depends on what your tying and using for material. As for fishing realistic flies the materials matter a lot. Some materials they use are great when it comes to fishing realistic flies and some not so much. Another thing is that not all realistic flies are meant to fish due to the bug it imitates such as the praying mantis. Theres 2 really good books for what I consider fishable realistic flies they are both by Fred Hannie. The mono and deer hair that are primarily made with his flies are made to be fished. The books are called fly tying with monofilament and uncommon flies. Fred was trained by a man David Martin and uses a lot of the same techniques Dave did. Dave sadly died a few years ago as a late developed agent orange. His website is still up though. David didn't fish and tie anything but realistic flies. They both seem to have good luck with it
Cool thanks for the info. I think for me, if I got into realistic flies, it would be for the artistic side of it. For me though, the common guide style flies work really well when fishing and I’ve always had luck, just hard to spend that much extra time for something that might not fish any better? Maybe it would though in some conditions depending on the specific pattern and like you said, materials used. At one point in my tying career I’ll try some realistic flies. I have lots of people wanting me to get into the salmon streamers also, but just haven’t made that jump yet either. As for realistic flies that aren’t bugs. Check out my gamechanger videos. They come out pretty realistic for being a baitfish. They do take a while to tie but I do notice they fish really well. And mostly these are for bass so your using heavy leader and less chance to loose the fly as long as your casts aren’t into trees. Haha!
great looking bug. One tip that I learned about getting the flat body shape is rather then tying in lead free wire down the sides, wrap it around the shank like you normally would from the bead down and before you add the wings and extra dubbing use some flat pliers and pinch the wire from top and bottom to flatten it out.
The months would depend on where you live. You can fish them all year but the best time is shortly before they emerge to adult form. This varies from place to place.
Oh I think all fly shops are just subject to whatever is available for them to buy. I am sure quality changes from year to year and where their distributors are getting products from
Thank you. As for your flies, just practice. And what you might think is crappy might not be. I’m sure they are really good. And for sure they will catch fish. Just keep working at it.
They are pretty good. I mean the price is like 1/3 of gamakatsu and about 1/2 of mustad. I’d say they are about ok par with mustad and gamakatsu has a slight edge in sharpness. But it’s not too noticeable
@@McFlyAngler yes i meant thread i usually fly fish for salmon and big trout what type of thread would you use on a 1/16th ounce wolley bugger or like a efg sucking leach type fly they love em up here in alaska the reason i ask is cause im new to tieing flies and im haveing trouble with my flies lasting more than one fish
I used UTC fly thread and broke a brand new thread bobbin 🧵 today right in half while tying. Am I tying too hard? Anyone experience the same? #140 ultra thread.
Absolutely perfect presentation. No pointless background music - thank God.
Thanks! I mean there is background music, but I guess you like this music. Glad it’s your taste. Some might not like this style of music. Haha.
Thanks for the great video, il have to tie a few before i come out to Colorado this September for a family wedding!
Have fun!
Nice job! Great looking pattern and I really like to see flies tied with all natural materials once in awhile.
For sure, I like natural also. However im not a stickler for it. Both natural and synthetic work well, but for different uses. Synthetic does seem to be more durable most of the time so there is that going for it. But natural also just has a different feel, and sometimes works better for getting bites. Anyway, glad you liked the video, thanks for the comment.
Mcfly that looks Mcperfect!!.. great video..tight lines
Lol, thanks man
Great tie!!! Love Golden Stones. A favorite in my part of the world!!!
Thanks
EXCELLENT pattern, great tie, THIS is a fly box stuffer !!!! L 👍🎣👍
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it
I fish this pattern here in Canada with success. Thanks for sharing 👍
Glad you liked it.
Very nice looking stonefly pattern, thanks for sharing the video with us.
Thanks man, hope it helps. Let me know how it works for ya.
Wow, awesome looking fly. I'm def tying this.
Thank you very much, and yes you should give it a try, its not too difficult once you get the hang of it.
Beautiful pattern
Thanks
Awesome looking stone pattern will have to ty some up for sure.👍
Thank you, yeah give it a try
That's a true semi realistic pattern. Due to both realistic and traditional fly tying techniques. Now when I tie realistic one things I've used is monofilament fishing line to not only widen bodies but to also heat crimp them to shape to make legs. As for segmentation on the abdomen I use razor foam. Another thing you can use for a tail is porcupine quills and for the antennas horse hair works well.
That sounds cool, yeah I’ve never attempted realistic patterns. I mean the time it takes to tie them I’m sure is long, and then I’ve fished some before from someone’s box that had a few, and they didn’t seem to do so well for some reason. Not saying yours don’t. But I just never saw the need other than for like a display type fly. Your thoughts?
Your right they do take a long time to tie but that also depends on what your tying and using for material. As for fishing realistic flies the materials matter a lot. Some materials they use are great when it comes to fishing realistic flies and some not so much. Another thing is that not all realistic flies are meant to fish due to the bug it imitates such as the praying mantis. Theres 2 really good books for what I consider fishable realistic flies they are both by Fred Hannie. The mono and deer hair that are primarily made with his flies are made to be fished. The books are called fly tying with monofilament and uncommon flies. Fred was trained by a man David Martin and uses a lot of the same techniques Dave did. Dave sadly died a few years ago as a late developed agent orange. His website is still up though. David didn't fish and tie anything but realistic flies. They both seem to have good luck with it
Cool thanks for the info. I think for me, if I got into realistic flies, it would be for the artistic side of it. For me though, the common guide style flies work really well when fishing and I’ve always had luck, just hard to spend that much extra time for something that might not fish any better? Maybe it would though in some conditions depending on the specific pattern and like you said, materials used. At one point in my tying career I’ll try some realistic flies. I have lots of people wanting me to get into the salmon streamers also, but just haven’t made that jump yet either.
As for realistic flies that aren’t bugs. Check out my gamechanger videos. They come out pretty realistic for being a baitfish. They do take a while to tie but I do notice they fish really well. And mostly these are for bass so your using heavy leader and less chance to loose the fly as long as your casts aren’t into trees. Haha!
A really cool stonefly. Love it
Thank you
Great looking stone fly..
Yeah it’s a great pattern, I’m glad you like my take on it. Thanks!
Really nice looking fly.
Thank you
great looking bug. One tip that I learned about getting the flat body shape is rather then tying in lead free wire down the sides, wrap it around the shank like you normally would from the bead down and before you add the wings and extra dubbing use some flat pliers and pinch the wire from top and bottom to flatten it out.
Good idea. That would increase the weight a lot though, of course that could be a good thing. I’ll try that some time
Nice looking wingcase finish
Thanks
Excellent fly.
Thank you
Awesome looking pattern thanks for sharing
Thanks man
just bought all the materials to tie this fly I think it will work great on the arkansas river west of Canon City , Colorado
Awesome man, good luck fishing
Very nice job 👍
Thank you
wish you were still in Colorado
Me too! Haha
Awesome tutorial! Would these biot patterns catch fish in all 12 months of the year? If not, what months do they work in? Thanks for sharing.
The months would depend on where you live. You can fish them all year but the best time is shortly before they emerge to adult form. This varies from place to place.
I don't understand stacking a .010 and .015 lead on top of eachother. Why not just use a .025?
Awesome pattern btw
Thanks, so it’s because it tapers it down. You can do .025 but you would have to use a lot of thread to taper it.
@@McFlyAngler it dawned on me after I posted lol. Ty!
Классная личинка! Благодарю!👍🤝🇰🇿
Wow super nice
Thank you so much
The largest turkey biot I have only goes around the body like 3 times. What brand of turkey biots are you using and approx. how long are they???
Are you using goose or Turkey?
@@McFlyAngler turkey biots i purchased from ole florida fly shop
Oh I think all fly shops are just subject to whatever is available for them to buy. I am sure quality changes from year to year and where their distributors are getting products from
i love it.... thank you ...♠
Glad you like it!
Awesome, thank you
Ya man
i watch these videos and still managed to make a crappy fly lol good job on the video
Thank you. As for your flies, just practice. And what you might think is crappy might not be. I’m sure they are really good. And for sure they will catch fish. Just keep working at it.
You need to practice, evaluate the steps that need improvement and go from there.
Thats awesome. How do those risen hooks compare against like mustad or gamakatsu? I might have to get me some haha, i need some biot though.
They are pretty good. I mean the price is like 1/3 of gamakatsu and about 1/2 of mustad. I’d say they are about ok par with mustad and gamakatsu has a slight edge in sharpness. But it’s not too noticeable
Ah i see, i might have to get m some then ahaha. Great tie.
Thank you. Yeah they are good hooks
Can you show how to tie this on a size 16
It’s just like this one but down sized. Maybe at one point but I don’t think any time soon.
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Nice!
Thanks
@@McFlyAngler you're welcome
What kind of string do you use to tie your flies??
Do you mean thread? If so, I use a number of different kinds depending on the fly.
@@McFlyAngler yes i meant thread i usually fly fish for salmon and big trout what type of thread would you use on a 1/16th ounce wolley bugger or like a efg sucking leach type fly they love em up here in alaska the reason i ask is cause im new to tieing flies and im haveing trouble with my flies lasting more than one fish
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classic!
Thanks
Noise!
I’m quite sure your viewing device has a volume control. You can always turn it down
@McFly Angler you've never heard young people say "nice" and pronounce it "Noise" it was a compliment, not a putdown brother.
@@caryverhalen No ive never heard that, im quite old school. Thanks for the compliment.
I used UTC fly thread and broke a brand new thread bobbin 🧵 today right in half while tying. Am I tying too hard? Anyone experience the same? #140 ultra thread.
I’ve never broken a bobbin, I have broken thread though. I’d say yeah too hard probably…. Lol