One important tip to add is that "Shop Selling Price" has been added to most pieces of gear. This tells you how much Gil an NPC would sell you this item for (at Normal Quality), so you can tell if market board prices are overpriced for a particular item. If "Shop Selling Price" is set to "None" it means that there are no Gil vendor NPCs in the game world that will sell you that item, and its acquired through other means.
I watch the lists of iron ingots get undercut to nothing worth selling lol, I keep mine at a decent price, and eventually they sell, not in a rush for gil either, I have enough to cover food and potions. EDIT: work smart, not hard, this applies here of course, there are people putting twice as much effort (if not more) into the game to make gil than I do, but we would make the same amount, based on selling more at lower price compared to less at higher price. I treat making gil as a mini game, probably the most fun one in the game really xD
Totally agree, on my server it's not uncommon for things to literally drop by 75% between me logging off to go to bed and logging on to check retainers in morning before getting on with the day. Especially annoying when the market manipulators start getting involved using 7 retainers and camping bell 24/7 to relist EVERYTHING at 1gil less than anyone who posts...
Yeah undercuts are TERRIBLE on behemoth. I've seen markets for certain things like dyes, end game collectables(cassie earring, skoll claw, etc) literally drop drastically in the course of a few hours due to people undercutting like crazy.
The tip about going to the hub with the market to save delivery fees alone made this worth watching! I'm sitting on a ton of aetherite tickets, so I can pop around for free, saving a bundle. Thanks!
Comments on tip No.1: "Vendor price" usually refers to the PURCHASE price of an item from a NPC vendor. "Vendoring" or "sell price" is the amount you receive from the NPC vendor for SELLING the item. The vendor PURCHASING price of Holy Rainbow Gloves is 7,096g. You should never pay more than the PURCHASING price on the MB when you can get the idea from a vendor. In addition to never selling under the NPC-SELLING price, I would suggest a 20% mark up for a min. price to determine if it is worth your time to sell on the MB or if you should just vendor the item straight to an NPC. This will ensure you get a 10% profit over the NPC-Selling price added to the 10% MB fee (SE seller tax). I tell my friends to start keeping notes on what they post, how long it has been up, average sell time, average sell price, the price you actually sell it for, and how long it was it was up.* This will help players new to market and economy get a feel for what is actually selling and how the pricing fluctuates throughout the week. Set goals for profit and turn-over, this will help players determine if they SHOULD continue selling a particular item or pursuing a particular avenue. Do some research in your free time (like if you are on a bus or lunch break) into how your daily activities can help you meet your goals. *one of my friends buys "cheap" materia on the MB in bulk then resells it in smaller portions for a mark up. They never have room to do maps and sitll don't have much gil (less then 3 million). So I had to talk to them about inventory space, retainer-MB space, and what sunk costs are. Other friends just felt intimidated by gathering, seeing it as collecting items that would only be vendored, so I showed them how to determine what to gather and make huge profits while leveling up and waiting in queues.
Keeping notes is a good idea but there is a sales history as long as they know hey adjusted/listed their items all in the same day. For example I retune all my prices only on tuesdays when it busy. This means that when I come back for Monday night game night with Brian that anything that sold in the history tab I can see how long it took from Tuesday to the sell time stamp and the price t went for. Markup needs to be a minimum for sure. It tells you as you list what the fee will be though they have time periods of reduced fees etc that play a role. Some good advice and the key is a lot like weight loss. It has been proven that just tracking what you eat and what you weigh makes you progress toward your goal to lose weight without a strategy. Literally just keeping an objective eye on it is a good starting point. No magic pricing or crafter required. Just watch what your doing.
I think a big thing about profiting is how much you invest into it and how you plan to sustain your income. I've known a lot of people who pick up their first crafter and then give up because it's "too expensive" and they didn't become gillionaires over night. There's also different 'ways' of selling. I have friends who prefer to buy the materials and sell high end gear for huge one-off sums. But I like to sell lower priced materials that move a LOT faster (and I gather/venture them for zero cost). hell, I was in the "prism business" for years and with a month of prep before SB I made 40mil in the 2 weeks after launch just by the volume I could move. It's also important to remember that high-gil items and particularly housing items are less likely to sell because if someone has a house, they have a way to make gil (likely crafting) and can probably craft the stuff themselves. So consider what type of seller you want to be and how much time/gil you're willing to invest in your chosen market.
I actually had someone argue with me when I tried to explain not to list at or below market price. He said he was still making a profit, I told him he would make more by selling to an NPC vendor. On the same note I have made a profit buying below priced materia on the board and vendoring them.
Ya materia. Demimateria. gil tokens. There’s a big list of items that regularly go below vendor. People also think if they farm the mats and craft that it’s always profitable even though in some cases they would make more selling the raw mats than the crafted stuff. It’s just math.
Pro tip, when doing hunts the seals you get can be used to buy free teleport tickets. So when your done grI sing out for mount speed you can use the rest to buy the tickets.
This was extremely useful thank you so much! I just started leveling crafters and using the market board more. Somehow never knew about that history button.
Thanks for the info. I'd love to see more of this because I'm currently saving for a house. When it comes to super lazy money making l recommend fishing (especially if you play on ps4). No running around and pay much attention. Just press some buttons when the controller vibrates. I like to read or watch a movie while fishing. In the end I sell the targeted fish and any other valuable stuff that I found on the marketboard. The things I used to sell to the NPC I now collect and bring it to the Doman enclave once a week because it sells for more than NPC value. It starts up with 20% extra and I'm now at double NPC price with still quite a way to go in the rebuilding of the town
Ya the doman has a weekly cap too low to be crazy money but that’s a good thing to be doing. I love fishing with a controller for sure. I will be happy to put together some guides on other things you can try but not sure any will be as relaxing as fishing with the vibrate so you don’t even look at the screen lol
I know this video is a year old but I watched it two days ago and used some tips in this video and sold a BUNCH of gear and made around 200k. May not seem much but to me that’s actually insane. The amount of stuff I saw people selling below vendor prices was insane. Made me a nice profit !
Not gonna lie, I don't always see eye-to-eye with a decent amount of your videos there guy, but this one was amazing! Good tips n tricks, even taught me a thing or too. I DO enjoy the fact that you guys make 14 content, so please more videos like this and keep it up! Good or bad I'll watch em.
I have to say that I had no idea about the delivery fee, this is a mandatory video for anyone that play FFXIV! About the crafting competition, not everyone have the patience to craft and the market will always regulate itself.
Another good way to approach selling equipment, or items that take a while to sell, put a retainer aside for just these items, so you can leave that retainer and not have to look at the slow speed at which they sell, it helps.
I was surprised that I actually learn 2 things. And I play this game since the first day. The selling history is actually amazing and I think it will be very useful. And the fee I didn’t know much how did it work. Thx 👍🏻
I've been playing on and off since the release of 1.0 and I COMPLETELY forgot about the fees for buying from different markets. I can't imagine how much extra I've paid over the years. ☠️
This was surprisingly helpful, especially hitting 70 right before Shadowbringers and trying to enter the market for certain crafters. The bit about the delivery fee in particular.
I play this game now for 2 months and I made more than 1 million gil by just buying stuff below vendor price from MB and instantly selling it to vendor... and rather close to 2 million than 1 million
Ya it adds up quick sometimes. I have hoped an item was worth an amount and made more than that target amount when I got to the market board and dozens of it were below vendor.
I only recently found these videos. I have low level crafters and only about 10-15 k gil. Started using some of the techniques from this video and others that Work to Game offers and after only a week, I just hit 118 K. I know it is that big of an increase but to me I am tickled pink with the results of only a week. Was jumping up and down seeing over 30 k on one of my retainers this morning.
I actually just did this on accident yesterday thinking have vendor sell items would take me to the market board, I was a little panicked till I saw buyback lmao
I just want a house, but I am really struggling to understand what can make me a profit, or how to make a profit on items. Theres so many items in FF14, and if an item is profitable, it won't be by the time that is known, I dont really have the game knowledge to determine that myself.
Love Gil making videos. Especially helpful for someone trying to level jobs and keep the gear up to date for crafters and gatherers with very little Gil.
Was looking for a way to DM you, but I was wondering if you could give me some advice on making huge gil, taking into consideration it's been 2 months since this video was made and prices and supply and demand changes. I'm just bought a small house, I did a bunch of sidequests to list the gear on MB, but nothing seems to be selling. I know about the history button, and how to compare prices, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what to make, and what to sell. If you can, please help. Also, I Love the channel, I definitely HAD to subscribe.
@@Work2Game So because of the expansion, prices will completely flip? (Not Specifically, but I meant it will be harder to know what will sell now because of the expansion)
Also, last question, I couldn't find it on any forums, but why do I keep hearing about people Ranking Up their Companion Chocobo's? Is there something I'm missing? Are there big rewards for ranking up your Chocobo?
I personally am comfortable above 10 but I don’t have a personal house, I don’t currently raid at a savage level and I don’t constantly buy glamour. If I did I would want 50-100
@@Work2Game that sounds fair. I'm sitting around 60 but I don't have a house or raid. TBH I haven't played in over a year. I just came back from quitting in 4.1 ... My main focus is doing MSQ, leveling my other jobs, and clearing out my full inventory, FC chest, and 4 retainers. I've got so much crap.
I'm pretty good at making gil and these are all solid tips I've been giving new players ^.^ I do however think that you missed a point when you said to not list things that don't sell often, if the item is pricey and that would depend on who you ask, for me it ranges between 150k-5m+ that maybe letting it take 1-3 slots on a person with 2 retainers is something you can afford but you have to make sure that you are not using all your slots for that. Here is another tip: Take into account active markets,the most active market is Limsa and that's because the MB is close to an Aetherite,the 2nd most active market is which ever new expansion we are in (as of Stormblood it's kugane) the expansion market however is more suited for highlevel items and gear since lower level players can't access it.
It’s about the total math. If you list 20 items at 100k each and it takes a week for even one to sell that retainer makes 100k per week. If you instead list 20 items that sell more often (ingredients for example) at 10k each then you may make 100k a day and repost 10 more. If you list items at 1k a piece getting to 100 is suddenly several times of the whole batch selling. So the answer is to be somewhere in the middle of your capabilities and aware of how often you can log on. If you only log on once a week don’t pick items that sell cheap but fast because you can’t replace them to keep flipping them. It’s a balance for sure. And it all only matters if you have more things to list than slots ;)
@@Work2Game You also have to prioritize selling new items on patch day\the week they come out since they tend to be at their priest at that point and if they are easy to come buy an items that would have sold for over a mill suddenly sells for 300 gil.
Fair point. Timing the market in general is good to do. Raid consumables are most valuable when people are raiding. That’s a topic worth exploring a bit more.
People undercut by 1 gil so that they're at the top of the list; the game sorts the entries by "best value per quantity". So if someone is selling 1 potion for 250 but some is selling 10 for 1000, it'll put the 10 potions at the top because individually they're 100 each. Knocking that gil off means you'll be the better deal and a lot of players don't even check what they're buying, they'll just take the top one. Also people use can us a market board plugin that allows players to search an item across a whole datacenter; meaning they know which server will have the cheapest prices going. So Mateus might have an item for 20K but in Goblin it's 5K. So if you see a high end item suddenly drop in price, it's likely because that player has the plugin, knows another server has a cheaper price and matches that price instead to lure the other plugin users to their item.
Ya that’s what Brian and I were noticing people kept asking about in stream as they start to gear up for shadowbringers and are coming back or coming in for the first time and don’t just have piles of Gil laying around (minimum 5 million but often a lot more)
I've played for a long time and never really noticed the delivery fee! Just bought my Nightmare Pegasus a couple weeks ago and now I'm wondering if I paid a fat fee on top of the 15 mil price tag...
I hate it when someone undercuts me significantly and I have to buy it then they keep doing it. Like dude dont undercut so much. Then it takes a while to build the market back up
Yeah, but he gets his money. And if he does that he dosen't care about you or the market. He wants a quick sell. Unfortunatetly, the correct answer would be to not buy it and wait it out. That is why you have to diversify and play the long game on the market. For him it is a win as long as hi gets more than the vendor price.
@@Work2Game in that case either he is plain stupid or he doesn't care.. and at that point it doesn't matter. You can't force someone to care. If somehow he is not aware he is bellow vendor price then .. again I don't see what you can do to properly correct this. Buying what he sells will just prove to him that he is doing the right thing. Note: I am not saying that videos like this are not useful, not even close, it would be nice to have this type of information served somehow in game or to simply not allow you to sell it at values that are to low. There isn't an easy answer for this in practice. On paper.. sure you can make ideal scenarios and debate but in practice sadly you will always have that type of players.. EDIT: fixed spelling errors.
I'm one of those people you hate, probably. If I keep being undercut by 1 or 2 gold, I'll just try to crash the market because I dont enjoy playing those games. As long as I am making a profit, I hardly care if the market place deflates. I want the items out of my inventory so that I can replace them with more items to sell.
When under cuting gets crazy on a item keep price high so some one see's difference in price then buy cheep one faster and Ur item sells a good price but his only works with items that sell a lot a week
Just make sure to check the market board first to see what is selling in your server. For example I made a video last year talking about exactly this and focused a fair bit on mats for leveling crafters but now ishgard does that so those may not work as well now.
I am the gill maker for my FC. I fund all our houses, glamour, minions, gear. So i am always interested in gil, crafting, gathering videos. Side comment ... on my server there is one massive crafter that makes a practice of ridiculously undercutting the market. I think it is someone who has no need for more gil
Thanks Chris for the great info! Its bonearrow23 from twitch btw. I've made about 30m gil since I started without crafting, mostly just treasure maps with fc and sending my 4 retainers on ventures. The market is still difficult to learn but getting better. When I sell something, should I try to sell the item at the average of the history its sold for in recent transactions? Example- These scales on Siren the lowest priced listing is 350 each, but its been between 400-500. Also curious on hq sales and stack sizes for materials, to go with other stacks same size. I know gear is best 1 at a time, material 1 or 2. mats maybe any stack size. Enjoy your awesome streams!
Ya understanding how it works. Why the item has value and what it takes to get more of it really let you work with it to make money if you have the time and energy for sure.
I'm new to the game and barely been playing a week in real time. I had and still not a lot of idea of how the market works. I mean i did find the board as i was wondering what people were hanging around. At times tried to buy a single item and only to realize there are all in huge stacks. Then i'm there wondering i just want a single item or two and can't figure out how to buy a single item. Stuff like this need New Player tutorial for.
Gathering makes plenty if you check what’s selling often and for a lot before you go out to gather. Running dungeons pays well if you run as the adventurer in need. Crafting is a bit more complex but we will try to make some guides breaking that down soon
Alumen, black alumen, and effervescent water always seem to be good mining materials to farm up and sell. Won't get crazy high prices but making 20 or 30k a stack isn't too bad.
hi i'll take all the hints and advice you have im a level 70 bard 70 miner and 70 botanist 57 fisher and amost 60 on all crafters.and despite last year when i busted my ass to make money to buy me a large house. there were several categories i seemed to fill the void for people with quantity of and fair prices and i made 60 million. but then kugane released my heart set on a large i stayed up all night to be on soon as the servers came up wouldn't you know it there was a server overload causing a que witch costed me a large house. i was furious! i managed to get a medium in goblet but the difference a year makes i have 5 milllion saved i would love to raise as much as possible so when that day comes more housing arrives with the move discount,and balance and construction I'd come out ahead. problem is all these small amount sells add up but they wont get me to my goal anytime soon.
Correct. Since the current price was lower than he paid we know it wasn’t a flip but instead a use. I do the same thing. I’m going to make a separate video talking about that purely as a money making strategy. It’s slow but effective. Especially if clusters are priced high
Too many people on my server sell their stuff without even changing the price. Makes crafting certain items to sell pointless if people are just gonna sell it for 7gil >_>
PLEASE make moneymaking guides. I'm just getting into crafting (haven't gotten to HW content yet) and I'm trying to get enough of a stockpile to keep up.
The issue with gil making guides is that they work on the marketboard.... and if everyone sells the thing from the guide at once because of the guide, the price will plummet
This guide was not intended to sell one particular thing but rather understand why it works so you can find the thing that works currently. And yes I have some new Gil Guides coming
I cant stand the players that undercut 50-75%...why cant they be smart and just undercut 1g...I wish they attached player names to retainers just so we can at least enlighten them a bit
I am totally with you on that, but to sort of play devil's advocate...I dont think it's right for You to tell Me what MY services are worth. I spent MY time crafting/gathering, therefore I decide what it's worth. ie. just because You Think something's worth 1k gil, doesn't mean it Must be so. that is only your Opinion. If My opinion of value differs, what makes you right and me wrong?
@@falseshepherd-490 yeah..for instance if an item is selling regularly at 800k and then you come in at 400k...then whats ur reasoning? Your devaluing the market...especially when several other idiots follow you and lower their item from 800k down to 350k instead of just waiting for you to sell...that doesnt make any sense and thats what i was talking about
So the question about who sets the value is the market. The market is willing to pay a price for a good or service and it sets that. If they won’t pay the price drops. If they will pay the price goes up. This is assuming the seller wants money. It’s not about what I think. It’s about the market as a whole. The history tab literally tells us what the market has been paying.
Most of the gil I make ends up going to buying random cosmetic items for my family. Usually mounts or minions. I did buy our FC a mansion when one came up (those things take forever to show up). But yeah gil is kinda pointless for the most part and the only reason I want more is to see just how much I can accumulate. Although if they make an Ishgard housing district I can hopefully buy myself a mansion there.
Loved the bit "Nobody will buy all those materia. Nobody needs 11 all at once. These two singles will probably sell first." followed by you immediately buying the 11 and ignoring the singles at the same price. Poor Tenri!
I played a char for 4 years all crafts maxed took 9 months off erased that char seem like I was always poor. Started over and spam treasure chests all of them. I have over 9 mil Gil keep in mind when you don’t level crafts or gatherers there is really nothing to spend on except glamours but all the good glams are cheap anyway or rare/ex
Ya I think I may make a few guides on how to make that first million and then how to make the first 5 etc. I usually get lazy when I cross 10 but I make money differently depending on how much I have to “invest” because many players can’t afford to level a crafter and crafting is a great money maker so how do you overcome that initial grind.
Work To Game it’s about the play style anyway if you wanna craft or gather do it that way. I just got bored of it and my real life doesn’t support it anymore. Things about this game that I love is that there is more than 1 way to get Gil. Some faster than others.
@@arturius9715 yeah. I thought it was a mistake maxing my Culinarian early but it turned out to be the most consistent source of income for me (also Alchemy). I've also heard treasure map drops can be lucrative and efficient if you have a good group to run maps with.
Is it better if they undercut by 10 or 100? As numbers get larger there is a trend toward round numbers but with small amounts (sub 500 each) undercuts tend to be very small numbers.
Being undercut only really matters if the item being sold has low demand, I end up checking some armour i'm selling and see that in the past week a few have sold but only undercut me by a few gil, some stuff just isn't worth selling lol, I reckon most gear is a pain to shift, I stick to materials like ores and ingots, they've been in demand since the game launched!
Ya. Demand is indeed most notable when its low. When someone wants multiple listings every time they buy and multiple people buy a day you don’t have to be the lowest, just toward the lowest on the list.
Well I think if you want to undercut then undercut at least with 10 gil or some amount what makes sense. Otherwise you are just being...... when 10 other person sales same item for the same price.
Definitely trying to make money and boy is it hard. Part of the problem is I was too late to the game this expansion, and any of the money I did make went into crafting...but I''ll be ready for the next round. Two things I've learned are that it takes money to make money and that the best time to make money are at launches of major patches (especially early in an expansion) or the launch of an expansion itself...). Right now demand is dead and nothing is selling well. But at the start of I think 4.4 I made like 7 mill in the first week.
Ya there are waves to it for sure but I will say you can make money literally every day if you stick to things that are always in demand. This late in an expansion you just have to think what people still want.
They still exist but I think their only use is to transmute to other materia (or sell) like elemental resistance materia. I actually just bought a stack of a couple of them because I could just sell them to vendor at a profit...
Lol I keep meaning to record a few new ones before shadowbringers to dilute it. It’s a folder of them and I grab randomly. I (Chris) have a few ideas. And a few are meant to make you smile, but none with puppets.
I'll add that if something sells regularly for a decent price? I don't care if two people sell the same item dirt cheap. They will probably be out of the way by the end of the week and I'll still be selling at a reasonable price. Undercutting by more than 100 when something is worth less than 1,000? That isn't sustainable - and they should move on eventually.
Lol nice. Ya 2 makes sense to me. If I could pay for more with a man amount of Gil every month I would run the numbers on what a retainer makes me and consider that.
I hate you for reminding me of the delivery fee. Totally forgot about that and, well, never was worth it. Now I'm starting 60's crafting and THAT is gonna start making a difference. joking aside, thank you for this and for the whole video. ppl always seem to miss this basic tips and, as much as I profited from ppl not reading, "Vendor price" or "Sells for", I prefer ppl would know that info As for price under-cutters, I hate 1gil under-cutters. You wanna undercut me? Undercut on qtty, or 10%, 15% undercut. 1 Gil? come one! That is one thing I miss from XI. There was undercutting there, but you never knew what it was. I wish the MB didn't show the listings, just number of sellers and price history. AND the fee was when you put it up for sale. I am happy I am not in the crystal market, where undercutting and botting is rampant
Argh! I came here expecting to be called an idiot, but instead it turned out that I know and use all the tricks........ Should that make me relieved? Well, maybe, but.... my pockets are pretty empty regardless, so I do feel annoyed anyway, heh
Supply and demand. Time is money. And time equals different amounts of money to different players. I love instant gratification players 😀. Thanks for the vid.
It's sad that the people who undercut the most don't care about watching a video like this. They just want to sell as fast as possible or they don't pay attention to the game UI and just sell at base price. what annoys me the most is when you drop something really rare, say, a new minion from the lost cannals, and you list it in the marketboard for the price everyone is asking, then someone comes and puts a new on in the market for 500k lower. I'm like are you serious? It's okay to undercut by 1 gil so that your item gets bumped, but 500k is trying to break the market for that item. I've seen some things devalue to 10% their original value in like, 1 day. These people, honestly don't really care if they're breaking the market, and then they complain they can't make as much money as other players. Well, other players actually try to respect the economy, that's why they make money.
Some people hate playing the "undercut by 1 gil" game. I'll play it for a day or two on an item and then say intentionally crash the market if everybody else keeps undercutting me. Sure, I would prefer to make 2 mil gil, but, if there is still profit at 1 or 1.5 mil, cool, I will sell there. If I destroy the market, well, people should not have undercut me.
What I’ve learned from the MB is to stay away from it as much as possible. Try to be self-sufficient. Get retainers to 80 and send them out on ventures. Stash Gil on a retainer, sell items in the MB that are in demand. Those items will usually never drop in price because they sell so quickly. Level your gatherers and crafters at the same time.
Talk about bots, Gil buyers, scammers. Cuz when you learn about that you realize the mb is a joke. Wanna make a quick 20 million, farm bunny fates in pagos pyros. Sell them and you’re good. Leave the mb to the sheisters.
I make plenty when I try and I have never botted. Yes a bit could generate stuff at a level I could not butthey are still bound by 20 listings per retainer so there is room to make money without being one.
I agree that there is money to be made, but after seeing what was behind the curtain I find any real time spent Is not worth my time. Unless Sqex gets more resolute about the scammers, I won’t put effort into a rigged system.
Ya world visit should be interesting. Right now it self balances. If a server pays a crafter less typically that crafters money goes further. The downside is hard costs such as vendor prices hurt the low price servers more.
What do you need Gil for in a infinite capacity? I can see getting to that one big purchase like a house or mount. Maybe gearing up alts until they cap. But then What? That’s maybe 100 million total.
Work To Game so you live in a large plot, own all mounts and minions, have cleared all extreme and savage content, and have all crafting classes maxed. Is that what you are saying? Also, I think it should be obvious that there’s a big difference between “no” gil and “infinite” gil.
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One important tip to add is that "Shop Selling Price" has been added to most pieces of gear. This tells you how much Gil an NPC would sell you this item for (at Normal Quality), so you can tell if market board prices are overpriced for a particular item.
If "Shop Selling Price" is set to "None" it means that there are no Gil vendor NPCs in the game world that will sell you that item, and its acquired through other means.
Ya. Some say restricted as well. I could most likely make a whole video on just what a tooltip tells you. It’s a lot these days.
This video should be mandatory for all players lol. Major undercutters on my server. So painful for gatherers.
Ya its hard to explain that a healthy market is win win not just some greed machine of number crunchers.
I watch the lists of iron ingots get undercut to nothing worth selling lol, I keep mine at a decent price, and eventually they sell, not in a rush for gil either, I have enough to cover food and potions.
EDIT: work smart, not hard, this applies here of course, there are people putting twice as much effort (if not more) into the game to make gil than I do, but we would make the same amount, based on selling more at lower price compared to less at higher price. I treat making gil as a mini game, probably the most fun one in the game really xD
Interesting theory. Patience is a good trait when Gil making.
Totally agree, on my server it's not uncommon for things to literally drop by 75% between me logging off to go to bed and logging on to check retainers in morning before getting on with the day. Especially annoying when the market manipulators start getting involved using 7 retainers and camping bell 24/7 to relist EVERYTHING at 1gil less than anyone who posts...
Yeah undercuts are TERRIBLE on behemoth. I've seen markets for certain things like dyes, end game collectables(cassie earring, skoll claw, etc) literally drop drastically in the course of a few hours due to people undercutting like crazy.
The tip about going to the hub with the market to save delivery fees alone made this worth watching! I'm sitting on a ton of aetherite tickets, so I can pop around for free, saving a bundle. Thanks!
Your welcome!
True, I never even bothered noticing the delivery fee xD
It adds up on big purchases for sure.
Comments on tip No.1: "Vendor price" usually refers to the PURCHASE price of an item from a NPC vendor. "Vendoring" or "sell price" is the amount you receive from the NPC vendor for SELLING the item. The vendor PURCHASING price of Holy Rainbow Gloves is 7,096g. You should never pay more than the PURCHASING price on the MB when you can get the idea from a vendor.
In addition to never selling under the NPC-SELLING price, I would suggest a 20% mark up for a min. price to determine if it is worth your time to sell on the MB or if you should just vendor the item straight to an NPC. This will ensure you get a 10% profit over the NPC-Selling price added to the 10% MB fee (SE seller tax).
I tell my friends to start keeping notes on what they post, how long it has been up, average sell time, average sell price, the price you actually sell it for, and how long it was it was up.* This will help players new to market and economy get a feel for what is actually selling and how the pricing fluctuates throughout the week. Set goals for profit and turn-over, this will help players determine if they SHOULD continue selling a particular item or pursuing a particular avenue. Do some research in your free time (like if you are on a bus or lunch break) into how your daily activities can help you meet your goals.
*one of my friends buys "cheap" materia on the MB in bulk then resells it in smaller portions for a mark up. They never have room to do maps and sitll don't have much gil (less then 3 million). So I had to talk to them about inventory space, retainer-MB space, and what sunk costs are. Other friends just felt intimidated by gathering, seeing it as collecting items that would only be vendored, so I showed them how to determine what to gather and make huge profits while leveling up and waiting in queues.
Keeping notes is a good idea but there is a sales history as long as they know hey adjusted/listed their items all in the same day. For example I retune all my prices only on tuesdays when it busy. This means that when I come back for Monday night game night with Brian that anything that sold in the history tab I can see how long it took from Tuesday to the sell time stamp and the price t went for. Markup needs to be a minimum for sure. It tells you as you list what the fee will be though they have time periods of reduced fees etc that play a role. Some good advice and the key is a lot like weight loss. It has been proven that just tracking what you eat and what you weigh makes you progress toward your goal to lose weight without a strategy. Literally just keeping an objective eye on it is a good starting point. No magic pricing or crafter required. Just watch what your doing.
"No use for gil"
Tell that to this brand new player. 😆 I WISH I was sitting on 10mil gil right now. I got like...8,000. 😖
I'm sitting at uh. 100k and i thought i was awesome. then realized i suck
I think a big thing about profiting is how much you invest into it and how you plan to sustain your income. I've known a lot of people who pick up their first crafter and then give up because it's "too expensive" and they didn't become gillionaires over night. There's also different 'ways' of selling. I have friends who prefer to buy the materials and sell high end gear for huge one-off sums. But I like to sell lower priced materials that move a LOT faster (and I gather/venture them for zero cost). hell, I was in the "prism business" for years and with a month of prep before SB I made 40mil in the 2 weeks after launch just by the volume I could move.
It's also important to remember that high-gil items and particularly housing items are less likely to sell because if someone has a house, they have a way to make gil (likely crafting) and can probably craft the stuff themselves.
So consider what type of seller you want to be and how much time/gil you're willing to invest in your chosen market.
Fair advice
I actually had someone argue with me when I tried to explain not to list at or below market price. He said he was still making a profit, I told him he would make more by selling to an NPC vendor.
On the same note I have made a profit buying below priced materia on the board and vendoring them.
Ya materia. Demimateria. gil tokens. There’s a big list of items that regularly go below vendor. People also think if they farm the mats and craft that it’s always profitable even though in some cases they would make more selling the raw mats than the crafted stuff. It’s just math.
Pro tip, when doing hunts the seals you get can be used to buy free teleport tickets. So when your done grI sing out for mount speed you can use the rest to buy the tickets.
5/14/2021 - Seems that delivery fees no longer matter where the item is bought from. Standard 5% fee on all.
This was extremely useful thank you so much! I just started leveling crafters and using the market board more. Somehow never knew about that history button.
That button is incredible. Happy it helped!
I do need to start making Gil for the expansion. Please do more videos
Will do!
I second this
Aethersand ,easy and fast
Thanks for the info. I'd love to see more of this because I'm currently saving for a house.
When it comes to super lazy money making l recommend fishing (especially if you play on ps4). No running around and pay much attention. Just press some buttons when the controller vibrates.
I like to read or watch a movie while fishing. In the end I sell the targeted fish and any other valuable stuff that I found on the marketboard. The things I used to sell to the NPC I now collect and bring it to the Doman enclave once a week because it sells for more than NPC value. It starts up with 20% extra and I'm now at double NPC price with still quite a way to go in the rebuilding of the town
Ya the doman has a weekly cap too low to be crazy money but that’s a good thing to be doing. I love fishing with a controller for sure. I will be happy to put together some guides on other things you can try but not sure any will be as relaxing as fishing with the vibrate so you don’t even look at the screen lol
Heads up they changed the delivery fee thing. Even if you buy in same location you still pay an item tax now
I know this video is a year old but I watched it two days ago and used some tips in this video and sold a BUNCH of gear and made around 200k. May not seem much but to me that’s actually insane. The amount of stuff I saw people selling below vendor prices was insane. Made me a nice profit !
Not gonna lie, I don't always see eye-to-eye with a decent amount of your videos there guy, but this one was amazing! Good tips n tricks, even taught me a thing or too. I DO enjoy the fact that you guys make 14 content, so please more videos like this and keep it up! Good or bad I'll watch em.
Thanks! We don’t ask people to see eye to eye and appreciate opinions from different views. Glad it helped!
I have to say that I had no idea about the delivery fee, this is a mandatory video for anyone that play FFXIV! About the crafting competition, not everyone have the patience to craft and the market will always regulate itself.
Thanks! Feel free to share it.
I would like to learn to make gil because I want land and a cottage. I like your videos; keep them coming!
I didnt know almost any of this valuable info thx
Very cool! Got a lot more headed your way.
Another good way to approach selling equipment, or items that take a while to sell, put a retainer aside for just these items, so you can leave that retainer and not have to look at the slow speed at which they sell, it helps.
I always enjoy your videos so much brilliant information, thank you for posting ^^
Thank you!
I was surprised that I actually learn 2 things. And I play this game since the first day. The selling history is actually amazing and I think it will be very useful. And the fee I didn’t know much how did it work. Thx 👍🏻
I love big undercuts
I've been playing on and off since the release of 1.0 and I COMPLETELY forgot about the fees for buying from different markets. I can't imagine how much extra I've paid over the years. ☠️
This was surprisingly helpful, especially hitting 70 right before Shadowbringers and trying to enter the market for certain crafters.
The bit about the delivery fee in particular.
I play this game now for 2 months and I made more than 1 million gil by just buying stuff below vendor price from MB and instantly selling it to vendor... and rather close to 2 million than 1 million
Ya it adds up quick sometimes. I have hoped an item was worth an amount and made more than that target amount when I got to the market board and dozens of it were below vendor.
I only recently found these videos. I have low level crafters and only about 10-15 k gil. Started using some of the techniques from this video and others that Work to Game offers and after only a week, I just hit 118 K. I know it is that big of an increase but to me I am tickled pink with the results of only a week. Was jumping up and down seeing over 30 k on one of my retainers this morning.
I actually just did this on accident yesterday thinking have vendor sell items would take me to the market board, I was a little panicked till I saw buyback lmao
I just want a house, but I am really struggling to understand what can make me a profit, or how to make a profit on items. Theres so many items in FF14, and if an item is profitable, it won't be by the time that is known, I dont really have the game knowledge to determine that myself.
Love Gil making videos. Especially helpful for someone trying to level jobs and keep the gear up to date for crafters and gatherers with very little Gil.
I’m new to the game and this type of stuff is helpful. I’m currently a broke level 51
Congrats on level 51, but sorry about being broke. Keep at it, and looking forward to hearing your thoughts once you get to Shadowbringers :)
Get a Gatherer or crafter , i suggest miner
I learned a whole lot from this, I would love to see more! Very fascinating
Will keep that in mind!
Oh dear gods! The loading times for ps4. Glad someone else noted that.
Lol ps3 I would get licked out of raid bosses due to everyone assuming I dropped.
The 1st thing I did was using a sshd in the ps4. They are not that expensive but improve a lot. The ps4 loads faster then some pc in ff14
Interesting. Hadn’t thought of that
Was looking for a way to DM you, but I was wondering if you could give me some advice on making huge gil, taking into consideration it's been 2 months since this video was made and prices and supply and demand changes. I'm just bought a small house, I did a bunch of sidequests to list the gear on MB, but nothing seems to be selling. I know about the history button, and how to compare prices, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what to make, and what to sell. If you can, please help. Also, I Love the channel, I definitely HAD to subscribe.
What to make varies by server and time and is all about to be thrown up in the air for the expansion.
@@Work2Game So because of the expansion, prices will completely flip? (Not Specifically, but I meant it will be harder to know what will sell now because of the expansion)
@@Work2Game also, I have learned a TON from your videos, and I really do appreciate them.
@@Work2Game How are you liking SHB so far?
Also, last question, I couldn't find it on any forums, but why do I keep hearing about people Ranking Up their Companion Chocobo's? Is there something I'm missing? Are there big rewards for ranking up your Chocobo?
Does it matter what personality your retainer has depends on if they are gonna steal your stuff?
I thought additional retainers were $2 per retainer, but they are just $1! Now I am interested. Great videos guys, I always enjoy your content
Thanks! Ya I started paying for them along ago so I don’t think about it.
How much gil do you recommend someone has before you think they can rest easy going into the new expansion? 10m, 20m, 50m, 100m?
I personally am comfortable above 10 but I don’t have a personal house, I don’t currently raid at a savage level and I don’t constantly buy glamour. If I did I would want 50-100
@@Work2Game that sounds fair. I'm sitting around 60 but I don't have a house or raid. TBH I haven't played in over a year. I just came back from quitting in 4.1 ... My main focus is doing MSQ, leveling my other jobs, and clearing out my full inventory, FC chest, and 4 retainers. I've got so much crap.
I'm pretty good at making gil and these are all solid tips I've been giving new players ^.^
I do however think that you missed a point when you said to not list things that don't sell often, if the item is pricey and that would depend on who you ask, for me it ranges between 150k-5m+ that maybe letting it take 1-3 slots on a person with 2 retainers is something you can afford but you have to make sure that you are not using all your slots for that.
Here is another tip: Take into account active markets,the most active market is Limsa and that's because the MB is close to an Aetherite,the 2nd most active market is which ever new expansion we are in (as of Stormblood it's kugane) the expansion market however is more suited for highlevel items and gear since lower level players can't access it.
It’s about the total math. If you list 20 items at 100k each and it takes a week for even one to sell that retainer makes 100k per week. If you instead list 20 items that sell more often (ingredients for example) at 10k each then you may make 100k a day and repost 10 more. If you list items at 1k a piece getting to 100 is suddenly several times of the whole batch selling. So the answer is to be somewhere in the middle of your capabilities and aware of how often you can log on. If you only log on once a week don’t pick items that sell cheap but fast because you can’t replace them to keep flipping them. It’s a balance for sure. And it all only matters if you have more things to list than slots ;)
@@Work2Game You also have to prioritize selling new items on patch day\the week they come out since they tend to be at their priest at that point and if they are easy to come buy an items that would have sold for over a mill suddenly sells for 300 gil.
Fair point. Timing the market in general is good to do. Raid consumables are most valuable when people are raiding. That’s a topic worth exploring a bit more.
People undercut by 1 gil so that they're at the top of the list; the game sorts the entries by "best value per quantity". So if someone is selling 1 potion for 250 but some is selling 10 for 1000, it'll put the 10 potions at the top because individually they're 100 each. Knocking that gil off means you'll be the better deal and a lot of players don't even check what they're buying, they'll just take the top one.
Also people use can us a market board plugin that allows players to search an item across a whole datacenter; meaning they know which server will have the cheapest prices going. So Mateus might have an item for 20K but in Goblin it's 5K. So if you see a high end item suddenly drop in price, it's likely because that player has the plugin, knows another server has a cheaper price and matches that price instead to lure the other plugin users to their item.
Do you have to pay real USD to have a retainer on top of your subscription fee? Did I understand correctly?
You have 2 for free with the basic subscription , you can have more for extra $
Yes my third and fourth add to the cost of my sub.
How does one right click on a PS4
More Gil would be very welcome /laugh particularly those of us who are returning, or starting anew
Ya that’s what Brian and I were noticing people kept asking about in stream as they start to gear up for shadowbringers and are coming back or coming in for the first time and don’t just have piles of Gil laying around (minimum 5 million but often a lot more)
Damn! First tip, I've been running between my retainers and vendors like crazy!
I've played for a long time and never really noticed the delivery fee! Just bought my Nightmare Pegasus a couple weeks ago and now I'm wondering if I paid a fat fee on top of the 15 mil price tag...
I hate it when someone undercuts me significantly and I have to buy it then they keep doing it. Like dude dont undercut so much. Then it takes a while to build the market back up
Ya that’s hard.
Yeah, but he gets his money. And if he does that he dosen't care about you or the market. He wants a quick sell. Unfortunatetly, the correct answer would be to not buy it and wait it out. That is why you have to diversify and play the long game on the market. For him it is a win as long as hi gets more than the vendor price.
What about when he doesn’t get more than vendor price?
@@Work2Game in that case either he is plain stupid or he doesn't care.. and at that point it doesn't matter. You can't force someone to care.
If somehow he is not aware he is bellow vendor price then .. again I don't see what you can do to properly correct this. Buying what he sells will just prove to him that he is doing the right thing.
Note: I am not saying that videos like this are not useful, not even close, it would be nice to have this type of information served somehow in game or to simply not allow you to sell it at values that are to low.
There isn't an easy answer for this in practice.
On paper.. sure you can make ideal scenarios and debate but in practice sadly you will always have that type of players..
EDIT: fixed spelling errors.
I'm one of those people you hate, probably. If I keep being undercut by 1 or 2 gold, I'll just try to crash the market because I dont enjoy playing those games. As long as I am making a profit, I hardly care if the market place deflates. I want the items out of my inventory so that I can replace them with more items to sell.
Hey what is your costume and head name? I really want
the pig? its a golden saucer thing and then i dyed it.
When under cuting gets crazy on a item keep price high so some one see's difference in price then buy cheep one faster and Ur item sells a good price but his only works with items that sell a lot a week
Love basic marketing, I heard a guy bought a vendor item and sold it on market for 2X his cost lmao gotta do this
Just make sure to check the market board first to see what is selling in your server. For example I made a video last year talking about exactly this and focused a fair bit on mats for leveling crafters but now ishgard does that so those may not work as well now.
I am the gill maker for my FC. I fund all our houses, glamour, minions, gear. So i am always interested in gil, crafting, gathering videos. Side comment ... on my server there is one massive crafter that makes a practice of ridiculously undercutting the market. I think it is someone who has no need for more gil
Great guide ! Thanks for these tips that wil come in handy 😁
I would actually appreciate some information on how to determine some of the best items to craft and sell.
Thanks Chris for the great info! Its bonearrow23 from twitch btw. I've made about 30m gil since I started without crafting, mostly just treasure maps with fc and sending my 4 retainers on ventures. The market is still difficult to learn but getting better. When I sell something, should I try to sell the item at the average of the history its sold for in recent transactions? Example- These scales on Siren the lowest priced listing is 350 each, but its been between 400-500. Also curious on hq sales and stack sizes for materials, to go with other stacks same size. I know gear is best 1 at a time, material 1 or 2. mats maybe any stack size. Enjoy your awesome streams!
There definitely are ways to market crashes to make money, especially items that sell a lot.
Ya understanding how it works. Why the item has value and what it takes to get more of it really let you work with it to make money if you have the time and energy for sure.
You said everything I have been wanting to shout to some of these marketers. Oh the pain of people selling HQ items for 5 Gil. Lol
The tip on the history was really great.
I'm new to the game and barely been playing a week in real time. I had and still not a lot of idea of how the market works. I mean i did find the board as i was wondering what people were hanging around. At times tried to buy a single item and only to realize there are all in huge stacks. Then i'm there wondering i just want a single item or two and can't figure out how to buy a single item. Stuff like this need New Player tutorial for.
Im back since 1 week and low on Gil my current crafts are Blacksmith and Armor and as Gathering Miner. Can you recommend anything to make some Gil?
Gathering makes plenty if you check what’s selling often and for a lot before you go out to gather. Running dungeons pays well if you run as the adventurer in need. Crafting is a bit more complex but we will try to make some guides breaking that down soon
Alumen, black alumen, and effervescent water always seem to be good mining materials to farm up and sell. Won't get crazy high prices but making 20 or 30k a stack isn't too bad.
Ya alumen and water as partial searches is not a bad starting spot to see what’s selling in your server that you can go farm up. Good examples!
@@obese_gazelle5615 I will check it out and look how it goes on my server
Thanks so much brother, really helped me
800k - 1 m gil per day without work hard and rush ,just gather aethersand, craft some 450 accessories ,profit.
hi i'll take all the hints and advice you have im a level 70 bard 70 miner and 70 botanist 57 fisher and amost 60 on all crafters.and despite last year when i busted my ass to make money to buy me a large house. there were several categories i seemed to fill the void for people with quantity of and fair prices and i made 60 million. but then kugane released my heart set on a large i stayed up all night to be on soon as the servers came up wouldn't you know it there was a server overload causing a que witch costed me a large house. i was furious! i managed to get a medium in goblet but the difference a year makes i have 5 milllion saved i would love to raise as much as possible so when that day comes more housing arrives with the move discount,and balance and construction I'd come out ahead. problem is all these small amount sells add up but they wont get me to my goal anytime soon.
Nice video. How come you're not playing on PC? Those long loading times must get annoying.
I’m a Mac user and the Mac client is pretty rough currently. I own both Mac and ps4 copies of ffxiv.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!
Nicholas Crafter was buying up gloves for desynthing.
Correct. Since the current price was lower than he paid we know it wasn’t a flip but instead a use. I do the same thing. I’m going to make a separate video talking about that purely as a money making strategy. It’s slow but effective. Especially if clusters are priced high
Please continue making videos on making gil...I've made about 3 million and I'm kinda stuck
Too many people on my server sell their stuff without even changing the price. Makes crafting certain items to sell pointless if people are just gonna sell it for 7gil >_>
Great video but your facecam was a bit in the way.
Thanks. I’ll keep and eye on it more next time. I try to put it where chat window is but market board is a time maybe I should go no face.
@@Work2Game nah just make it smaller, dont remove it fully - takes away the engagement aspect of it
PLEASE make moneymaking guides. I'm just getting into crafting (haven't gotten to HW content yet) and I'm trying to get enough of a stockpile to keep up.
The issue with gil making guides is that they work on the marketboard.... and if everyone sells the thing from the guide at once because of the guide, the price will plummet
This guide was not intended to sell one particular thing but rather understand why it works so you can find the thing that works currently. And yes I have some new Gil
Guides coming
I cant stand the players that undercut 50-75%...why cant they be smart and just undercut 1g...I wish they attached player names to retainers just so we can at least enlighten them a bit
I am totally with you on that, but to sort of play devil's advocate...I dont think it's right for You to tell Me what MY services are worth. I spent MY time crafting/gathering, therefore I decide what it's worth.
ie. just because You Think something's worth 1k gil, doesn't mean it Must be so. that is only your Opinion. If My opinion of value differs, what makes you right and me wrong?
The anonymous nature is interesting on its own for sure. And it’s really frustrating when people bottom a market out.
@@falseshepherd-490 yeah..for instance if an item is selling regularly at 800k and then you come in at 400k...then whats ur reasoning? Your devaluing the market...especially when several other idiots follow you and lower their item from 800k down to 350k instead of just waiting for you to sell...that doesnt make any sense and thats what i was talking about
When it’s one seller I just buy it up but when it becomes a trend your just stuck ugg
So the question about who sets the value is the market. The market is willing to pay a price for a good or service and it sets that. If they won’t pay the price drops. If they will pay the price goes up. This is assuming the seller wants money. It’s not about what I think. It’s about the market as a whole. The history tab literally tells us what the market has been paying.
No use for Gil?
Yes. To anyone that has played for a while that doesn’t have an endless desire for glamour changes there is little ongoing use for Gil in this game.
Most of the gil I make ends up going to buying random cosmetic items for my family. Usually mounts or minions. I did buy our FC a mansion when one came up (those things take forever to show up).
But yeah gil is kinda pointless for the most part and the only reason I want more is to see just how much I can accumulate. Although if they make an Ishgard housing district I can hopefully buy myself a mansion there.
Ya I’m starting to think I should pile some up in case ishgard is amazing.
Loved the bit "Nobody will buy all those materia. Nobody needs 11 all at once. These two singles will probably sell first." followed by you immediately buying the 11 and ignoring the singles at the same price. Poor Tenri!
I played a char for 4 years all crafts maxed took 9 months off erased that char seem like I was always poor. Started over and spam treasure chests all of them. I have over 9 mil Gil keep in mind when you don’t level crafts or gatherers there is really nothing to spend on except glamours but all the good glams are cheap anyway or rare/ex
Ya I think I may make a few guides on how to make that first million and then how to make the first 5 etc. I usually get lazy when I cross 10 but I make money differently depending on how much I have to “invest” because many players can’t afford to level a crafter and crafting is a great money maker so how do you overcome that initial grind.
Work To Game it’s about the play style anyway if you wanna craft or gather do it that way. I just got bored of it and my real life doesn’t support it anymore. Things about this game that I love is that there is more than 1 way to get Gil. Some faster than others.
Ya there’s a ton of ways to make it and not very many to spend it so it can feel pretty simple to build it up once you eat the hang of it.
Its so easy to make money...I can make 1mil in a day just from raid food and pots...add good leve quest items in and youll be making millions fast
@@arturius9715 yeah. I thought it was a mistake maxing my Culinarian early but it turned out to be the most consistent source of income for me (also Alchemy).
I've also heard treasure map drops can be lucrative and efficient if you have a good group to run maps with.
Well I hate it when people undercut even with 1 gil. For me, it's so annoying when there start to be prices like 311867.
Is it better if they undercut by 10 or 100? As numbers get larger there is a trend toward round numbers but with small amounts (sub 500 each) undercuts tend to be very small numbers.
Being undercut only really matters if the item being sold has low demand, I end up checking some armour i'm selling and see that in the past week a few have sold but only undercut me by a few gil, some stuff just isn't worth selling lol, I reckon most gear is a pain to shift, I stick to materials like ores and ingots, they've been in demand since the game launched!
Ya. Demand is indeed most notable when its low. When someone wants multiple listings every time they buy and multiple people buy a day you don’t have to be the lowest, just toward the lowest on the list.
Well I think if you want to undercut then undercut at least with 10 gil or some amount what makes sense. Otherwise you are just being...... when 10 other person sales same item for the same price.
still interested :) i'm waiting to make a job 80 before i begin crafting, 5 lvls away.
I always buy my distilled water from the market board on ffxi... I'm loaded like that!!
Definitely trying to make money and boy is it hard. Part of the problem is I was too late to the game this expansion, and any of the money I did make went into crafting...but I''ll be ready for the next round. Two things I've learned are that it takes money to make money and that the best time to make money are at launches of major patches (especially early in an expansion) or the launch of an expansion itself...). Right now demand is dead and nothing is selling well. But at the start of I think 4.4 I made like 7 mill in the first week.
Ya there are waves to it for sure but I will say you can make money literally every day if you stick to things that are always in demand. This late in an expansion you just have to think what people still want.
That is not "Market crush" this is how market worcks, balance or supply and demand
Wooa dude just went through a time capsule I completely forgot tht main stat materia was a thing
They still exist but I think their only use is to transmute to other materia (or sell) like elemental resistance materia. I actually just bought a stack of a couple of them because I could just sell them to vendor at a profit...
Please keep Terry off the show thank you and I love you. Lol
Lol I keep meaning to record a few new ones before shadowbringers to dilute it. It’s a folder of them and I grab randomly. I (Chris) have a few ideas. And a few are meant to make you smile, but none with puppets.
I'll add that if something sells regularly for a decent price? I don't care if two people sell the same item dirt cheap. They will probably be out of the way by the end of the week and I'll still be selling at a reasonable price. Undercutting by more than 100 when something is worth less than 1,000?
That isn't sustainable - and they should move on eventually.
Damn only 4 retainers xD. I got 10 lol. Just resubbed today and the extra 8 retainers cost 300% more than the 6 month sub.
Lol nice. Ya 2 makes sense to me. If I could pay for more with a man amount of Gil every month I would run the numbers on what a retainer makes me and consider that.
I have 2 retainers, just a casual pleb making his way in the poverty of Ul'dah xD
Dude u need a ssd on a pro my load times r super fast on mine
the anonymous thing is really lame, in other mmos u can just message the seller who listed the item
I hate you for reminding me of the delivery fee. Totally forgot about that and, well, never was worth it. Now I'm starting 60's crafting and THAT is gonna start making a difference.
joking aside, thank you for this and for the whole video. ppl always seem to miss this basic tips and, as much as I profited from ppl not reading, "Vendor price" or "Sells for", I prefer ppl would know that info
As for price under-cutters, I hate 1gil under-cutters. You wanna undercut me? Undercut on qtty, or 10%, 15% undercut. 1 Gil? come one! That is one thing I miss from XI. There was undercutting there, but you never knew what it was. I wish the MB didn't show the listings, just number of sellers and price history. AND the fee was when you put it up for sale.
I am happy I am not in the crystal market, where undercutting and botting is rampant
Argh! I came here expecting to be called an idiot, but instead it turned out that I know and use all the tricks........ Should that make me relieved? Well, maybe, but.... my pockets are pretty empty regardless, so I do feel annoyed anyway, heh
Lol well check back in. This is the foundation video to make sure everyone is caught up with you before we talk about ways to make and have more Gil.
@@Work2Game I'll be back, as always ;)
i definitely want to know how to make more gil :)
Very helpful video
thank you very much, this was so helpful.
Supply and demand. Time is money. And time equals different amounts of money to different players. I love instant gratification players 😀. Thanks for the vid.
You are welcome!
Wow, i just found a great mmorpg
How did i not found this game
great guides
It's sad that the people who undercut the most don't care about watching a video like this. They just want to sell as fast as possible or they don't pay attention to the game UI and just sell at base price. what annoys me the most is when you drop something really rare, say, a new minion from the lost cannals, and you list it in the marketboard for the price everyone is asking, then someone comes and puts a new on in the market for 500k lower. I'm like are you serious? It's okay to undercut by 1 gil so that your item gets bumped, but 500k is trying to break the market for that item. I've seen some things devalue to 10% their original value in like, 1 day. These people, honestly don't really care if they're breaking the market, and then they complain they can't make as much money as other players. Well, other players actually try to respect the economy, that's why they make money.
Ya it’s tough to see people complain but then not help themselves and it’s made worse when what they are doing affects people around them
Some people hate playing the "undercut by 1 gil" game. I'll play it for a day or two on an item and then say intentionally crash the market if everybody else keeps undercutting me. Sure, I would prefer to make 2 mil gil, but, if there is still profit at 1 or 1.5 mil, cool, I will sell there. If I destroy the market, well, people should not have undercut me.
"Noone needs 11 of the same materia right now it doesnt make any sense" Someone's never overmelded gear before I see.
Lol
What I’ve learned from the MB is to stay away from it as much as possible. Try to be self-sufficient. Get retainers to 80 and send them out on ventures. Stash Gil on a retainer, sell items in the MB that are in demand. Those items will usually never drop in price because they sell so quickly. Level your gatherers and crafters at the same time.
No use to make gil? Glam is the true end game, and as such gil has a use.
You would look good with a shaved head
Talk about bots, Gil buyers, scammers. Cuz when you learn about that you realize the mb is a joke. Wanna make a quick 20 million, farm bunny fates in pagos pyros. Sell them and you’re good. Leave the mb to the sheisters.
I make plenty when I try and I have never botted. Yes a bit could generate stuff at a level I could not butthey are still bound by 20 listings per retainer so there is room to make money without being one.
I agree that there is money to be made, but after seeing what was behind the curtain I find any real time spent Is not worth my time. Unless Sqex gets more resolute about the scammers, I won’t put effort into a rigged system.
Holy smeg the prices on your server are so low.... 1300 for a titanium lap hammer?! That's not even worth the cost of the crystals to craft it.
Ya world visit should be interesting. Right now it self balances. If a server pays a crafter less typically that crafters money goes further. The downside is hard costs such as vendor prices hurt the low price servers more.
nothing i haven't know about unfortunately. good video nonetheless.
Thanks. Will get a little more advanced with time. Good place to start.
Next time just lead with the “there’s no use for gil” line so I know what kind of idiot I’m listening to right up front.
What do you need Gil for in a infinite capacity? I can see getting to that one big purchase like a house or mount. Maybe gearing up alts until they cap. But then What? That’s maybe 100 million total.
Work To Game so you live in a large plot, own all mounts and minions, have cleared all extreme and savage content, and have all crafting classes maxed. Is that what you are saying? Also, I think it should be obvious that there’s a big difference between “no” gil and “infinite” gil.
Playing on the PS4 ouch
Nothing wrong with playing on Ps4 XD
Lol ya sometimes it hurts but I do love having. The vita as an option
@@Work2Game wait ur playing FF on ur vita?!
Not usually by having it as an option is wonderful. Gathering specifically is great on it.
99% of my time is muse and keyboard on my ps4 with tv or capture card to my Mac display.