12-1-20 "NEW" BCP Weelye Wiring Video" ruclips.net/video/b_Ajbs-E7O0/видео.html This will show you the Schematic live and layed out as we will do a 24v upgrade to the stock harness complete with parts. Enjoy
So far the best video out there, thanks for your info. I just bought a RX30 because i fried the one my son had, im thinking of running the 12v motor until they hit the ground then upgrade to the 24v motor and gear.
Ya you can use the 12v motors till they burn up. My suggestion is you just get the direct 24v gearbox/motor for quick install there cheap enough and worth the time save. Plus its always good to start with fresh
@@Neonjer11 Saw another persons comment about the same long blue wire not attached anything. It is indeed the radio antenna as you replied in their comment. My jeep was turning on, lights work, but it would just stutter a little and stop. Eventually dying completely. Ours is 3 yrs old and everything looks good, going to grab a new battery
I hooked up 2 18V makita batteries the original set up had 2 12V batteries. I had fuses hooked up as well and as soon as I turned it on the board burned out. I’m thinking I wired something wrong. Should I be able to support those 2 18V batteries?
@@NusinkisTV you possibly fried the esc board. Input voltage is 12v on the original esc, not 18v. If you upgraded esc to the RX-30and had 18v to it, then you definitely had wires wrong.
Hi and thank you I have done the 12v to 24v conversion with remote and all is great thanks to your video!! We have the same jeep and I wanted to ask where you got the led for the light bar? I would like to do this too!! Thank you sir.
Dei ao meu filho um carro parecido com esse, mas só tem radio e luz dianteira. Pretendo alterar para 24v. O que percebi é adquirir um rx30 e depois e ligar os cabos do rx23 para o rx30. Pelo que pesquisei só te ho que ter atenção à conversao de 24v para 12v a fiação que vai para o radio e volante e luzes certo? No rssto do carro pode ficar os 24v. O comando do rx23 é compatível com o rx30?
I tried a mod upgrade from the 12v to 18v drill batt just how other videos show, on this exact model best choice jeep. Only, it did not work at all. Did ever try that route? Or do you have any tips on how i can successfully install that 18v batt mod?
You can't add 18v on the 12v system. You can only do 18v on the 24v and that's not guaranteed to work as the esc requires a certain voltage to operate properly. To much and you'll fry it, to little and it won't power it
My jeep start light turns on(red) but no noise or when hit the pedal it don’t work.. I don’t know what to do .. I change the control box and still the same result help please
Is the 18,000rpm better than the 40,000rpm? My daughter has a jeep like this that on the Milwaukee it takes off super slow then picks up after like 20ft
So 40k will have a higher top speed but little torque the lower the rpm usually the higher the torque. So a happy medium is about 18k higher then stock but not enough to notice torque loss. Hope I answered what you were asking
@@Neonjer11 Do you have any recommendations of what to use for a Milwaukee 18V battery then?? Hot swapping batteries is the whole reason I looked into the conversion, and subsequently fried my 12V board right off the bat. Ran super fast for about 15 seconds though!
I just bought the weelye kit to convert my sons Best Choice Jeep from 12v to 24v and the steering wiring is different from the kit. Just making sure I'm doing the right thing bcoz there's still 2 wires and as long as I connect the ground with ground wire and power with power wire I shouldn't have any problem. Also do you suggest to have a regulator for the steering so it is not receiving all 24 volt and possible frying the steering motor? Thanks in advance and by far the most informative video, atleast for me.
Hey boss man, i have a similar Jeep Radio works lights work it kicks on and everything, but it only goes in reverse, not forward any idea what it could be?
I haven't done any upgrades yet. I'm just trying to find a fix to this current issue. I bought a new battery, hooked it up to charge, and now it won't go forward or backward, but radio, lights work. Idk I'm stumped
@antoniobelmontes2146 start with the basics. test the motors with 12v see if the run. if that's ok. next bypass the pedal. very common they go bad. if not that bypass the shifter. it should be one of those.
Is the speed control on the remote suppose to work? Seems like the 24v model has it for a reason, I am not sure why it does not work. Everything else is working as intended.
@@Neonjer11 The remote is synced and works for everything, except the S button that controls speed. When it was 12v, the number of red lights would change 1-3 to indicate speed when pressing that button. Now as 24v the S button changes the 1-3 led's but not the speed of the jeep.
@@Neonjer11 I have tried both. There is no change in speed, maybe the unit or controller is bad? I don't see where any wiring mistakes would cause this, right?
Have you upgraded the motor and gearbox? I followed your link but that looks like the 550 series motor and those only handle 12v from what I was told and the gearbox rings wear out if you jump to 24v? Unless you upgrade the gearbox and motor?
In the links in the description there 24v motor/gearbox combo direct replacement. The stock motor is rated 12v. heres the ones I just replaced my sons with over the summer in August, these are the ones you see working in the video. 24v 30000rpm www.amazon.com/dp/B085LN41TJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_eUTIFbQEK6WQQ Here the original ones I installed 2 years ago, 18000rpm 24v www.amazon.com/dp/B07T572NXL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_btf_t1_nWTIFbWZ39QRA 550 motors come in 3 version that i know of 6v, 12v, 24v. You can get those all in a gearbox in weeyle style for the jeeps. 570 motors are little better but tend not to be in a gearbox combo unless you buying a Peg Perego replacement which are 12v rated. You can find 570 motors that are 24v Johnson makes them, you can usually get them online thru AliExpress just watch what rpm the motor is typically 15k-20k is good anything less will seem slow at 24v
can i just hook the additional lights in front and the lights for the roller bar on the existing wiring for the lights i.e for the roller bar just hook it up on the rear existing light same with the additional in the front to hook in headlights wiring?
If it's the 12v system and that's available on your model. Yes to tap in off those lights, I don't see why not. It's really preference if you want everything on all at once or separate switches
@@Neonjer11 right now its at 12v system with 2 batteries running in parallel but been meaning to do this 24v upgrade like you did. what will be the effect running these additional lights though on the system? just less time running the jeep since its consuming battery? do you have link for the lights you've used in front where it says PIAA?
@lestertipay2630 well the light if upgrading the system will need the voltage regulator. As for the led lights. The rollbar and grill lights(pia) are probably the same size. The smaller lower bumper fog ones are just single 12v led of your color choice
@lestertipay2630 the run time will depend on you batteries AH rating(Amp hours) when running in series you will have 24v but the AH of the single rated battery. Your current setup in parallel increases AH but your voltage is still 12v(ex:parallel 6ah|12v + 6ah|12v= 12v|12ah vs Series 6ah|12v + 6ah|12v= 24v|6ah
You can use the stock charging port tho you will need a new charger when you go 24v. You can change cut the plug off the stock charger and solder it on to your new charger. Tho the new charger usually comes with alligator clips to connect direct to the batteries. Up to you how involved you wanna get
Thanks for the video! Working on this right now but for a VW Beetle, converting to 24V from a Weelye 12V. It looks like all the wiring is the same, I have a couple that I don't see in your video. Curious where you are using the 24V to 12V converter exactly. I will have to decipher which wires they are based on what you have yours running to and from. The VW has all ESC and battery under the seat, but the power button and radio are in the dash.
Ok cool, good luck, fee free to post pics in the Google Photos link. The group folders to help others see what your doing and dealing with. Helps everyone. If you have any questions just ask I did post a wiring diagram showing how the 12v-24v wiring setup should be in the Google photos links
So I used 22/4 wire and ran it thru the roll bar. Attached the LEDs. And connected to the existing lighting. Check my Google Folder for some images of the roll bar Led round 12v www.amazon.com/dp/B00NNJF1FO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_U-57Fb2H4HTYS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
If I’m simply upgrading the bcp jeep to 24v. My parts list would be the rx30, 18000rpm gearbox/motor, and some 24 to 12v converters for the lights and radio? Oh and of course another battery.
Ya those are pretty much the base components. You do have to make sure your pinout(harness) goes to the correct components as some brands and models may differ
If it’s the exact same Jeep the only thing different is yours has the yellow highlights on it does the harness need to be modified then? Also I will not be installing the high low switch if that helps any. Does the second gearbox/motor need to be installed or will it be fine with just the upgraded one?
Hey boss! Thank you for this I have everything to do my daughters but I had a question since I forgot the hi/low switch do I NEED IT? My jeep is a tobbi brand same exact jeep but without the hi low switch unless I can't find it.
No it's not needed. Mine did not have one either. I added one later. Just keep in mind it will just be at max speed and obviously will not have a low mode without that switch.
Either is fine depends on how much top speed you want. Remember the higher the rpm the lower the torque tho with the safe start on the Weelye the torque doesn't matter so much as it starts slow on purpose
Yes but there more then just adding an extra battery if you wanna do it right, So this Jeep got a second battery to make it 24v to power the RX30 speed control which is 24v ESC to go along with the upgraded 24v motors and Gearbox Check out the results and description for parts i used ruclips.net/video/etxwfPz493U/видео.html
@@ryanpatrick7086 all the links are in the description but if you were looking for a basic upgrade. Just direct swap parts. You need extra 12v battery $25, ESC $25, set of motors/gearboxes $50 and 24v to 12v Voltage regulator $10. That will get you to 24v basic setup "without High/low switch". adding a switch runs another $10, but you can switch between hi and low otherwise its always on HI. Plus your time to add some additional wires for high/low switch and to run batteries in series to gain 24v. Everything is pretty much direct replacement except adding those 3 things.
I've got everything done except putting in the step down to 12v. I've see all your pictures and diagrams and I've watched the video with that part a few times. I just can't seem to understand how it's wired.I see you split the ground to have it for your quick connect. Does the power come 24v from the switch splice into the down step to 12 and then just place the other side of the wire on the output side of the regulator? where does the out going ground go to if this is the case? It seems so easy but I just can't wrap my head around it. In the diagram is power coming from the circuit board or what? I see the arrows but I'm confusing myself further.
Have you check the wiring diagram in the Google Photos links that has a basic wiring Schematic with the 12v-24v regulator I'll try to add a few more pics to the Google Photos link when I get home. So to Explain when you update to the RX30 and 24v all your current wiring is now 24v off that switch. You now have to remove the power (red) wires for your 12v accessories aka raio and lighting and run those to the output 12v side on your regulator. Then install a new power wire from the switch(now 24v) to the input on the regulator. If everything is set up right. You should have 24v to the switch. NOW WHEN ON Coming out of the switch will be the 24v for your RX30 and a new line going to your regulator dropping the volts to 12v that will feed your radio and lighting. Hope this helps. I'll add those photos of mine later for visual 👍
@@Neonjer11 Yes that helped a lot, thank you. I was just getting confused because I couldn't tell if the switched was sill 24v or if it needed to be stepped to 12v. Do you have to wire the pedal out going side of the regulator too? I see that it is a negative? I already burned out the radio before I had realized that I needed a regulator and new control circuit board. (Power Wheels don't have them so I based my modification off of them and it was not a good idea)Also I've looked everywhere for a new radio for the jeeps and cannot for the life of me find one online. I tried replacing it with a used one from another jeep but I think it was fried also. Have any suggested links to them? If not, Thank you anyways, you have been a great help.
@@franktorrano5713 the foot pedal on the weelye uses two wires that require ground signal pin 2 and pin 3 (aka.... fwd and back) they have nothing to do with the regulator ground is ground As for parts: Kidswheels has stock parts but it takes a bit to get at so don't expect fast shipping, lol www.kidswheels.com/parts-by-brand/category/856549-best-choice-products-12v-kids-ride-on-truck-car-parts?gclid=CjwKCAiA-_L9BRBQEiwA-bm5frvyhcj9drobtIap1CsEGIo3mnjl8aF88qHg6p36Muw7sfWJNPgQmhoC23sQAvD_BwE
@@Neonjer11 So the outgoing ground on the regulator can go to any ground? Does it even need a ground on the out side?(just want to make sure haha) Thanks for everything you've explained it very well and have help a lot I appreciate it! So will my daughter when she realizes how fast her jeep goes lol.
Unfortunately this would now have you having to use 2 switches or unnecessary wiring to turn on your vehicle. Powering the radio independently would not keep it functioning as it was on normal startup. This would also pose a problem when charging the batteries as you would have to charge them independently at 12v instead of as a 24v, as each batter would be drawing a different rates. I under stand your view, tho it's not the best solution in my opinion
Yes, typically you would not want to change to rubber tires in my opinion due to the stress it would now put on the gear box. The plastic wheels kind of act like a clutch or slip differential like in an RC car. If you take that away any stress relief by the wheels will now be directed to the gearboxs. With a Safe start Weelye Rx30 or equivalent it does provide a gradual start which helps reduce stress to the gearbox. Tho it’s all going to be a decision based on your landscape. I personally like the Best Choice Style Wheels with the traction strip in the center. I added some metal pan head screws every 6-8in to reinforce the traction strips. Hope this help your decision.
Great informative video. I should watch it before I burned my daughter radio using 20V battery drill ;) Maybe do you know where from can I buy this radio motherboard unit? Thank you for all your knowledge what you shared. Matt
Can you show the 24 to 12v conversion for the accessories. Or can I email you to get a better understanding so I won't fry anything started smelling my electrical board on the 12v so changing to the 24v motherboard-thanks in advance Andy
i added it to the wiring folder. You will have to disconnect any current accessories that are 12v that are currently connected to the on of switch and reroute them thru the Voltage ⚡ Converter
@@Neonjer11 I noticed there is a motor in the front in addition to 2 motors in the back and i Wasnt sure what that did - but then I figured its the servo motor for remote steering.
Not sure. ECPU is a non stock kit with aftermarket pieces they kited together. I only use stock 24v as they were made with that intent. I'm sure ECPU kit is good tho I've never had one so I can't compare. Tho it looks to be a good kit not sure of the cost tho
@@Neonjer11 I actually purchased that kit and installed it last weekend in the same BCP Jeep you have. It was actually really easy to install, the only problem was figuring out how to mount it. They also DO NOT recommend changing the motors and only using the stock motors that came with it.
@@tiberius1837 that's weird they wouldn't recommend changing the motors to 24v if your installing a 24v kit. I know they have the kits that are variable voltage so you could technically over volt and dial in to say 18v and get a bit more life on your 12v motors before they toast out. Tho, If your over volting the 12v motors @ 24v you will eventually burn them out faster. 12v motors are usually rated 14.4v max. For normal operation. This is why I recommend using the stock parts made for the rideon and upgrading them to the 24v version made parts. I'm not saying ECPU is a bad kit, or that the stock parts are better. I'm saying it doesn't make sense they would advise against 24v motors. Just some information on BCP Jeeps: you can buy..... 1: pre-assembled 24v motor/gearboxes 2:change motors to 24v using --aftermarket 550s size or --aftermarket 570s size (10t pinions may be required for certain motors not supplied in packaging, just FYI) *also 775s do not fit the gearboxes for BestChoice on the Jeeps. I hope this helps for informational purposes thx for the feedback
@@Neonjer11 well, here's their justification for it: "(Q) Can I upgrade the factory motors? (A) NO. Changing the factory motor speed can damage the new motors and ESC. If for example you replace the factory 8,000 rpm motors with 30,000 rpm motors you are quadrupling the theoretical final speed which is like attempting to start your car from a stop in fifth gear and will create a tremendous strain and cause parts to fail. You want to power up (volt up) and gear down or at least gear neutral. Changing the speed without changing the power is the same as simply starting a low powered car in a higher gear. You may gain a little speed but the low end torque is lost and this is very likely to overheat the motors and circuit board/ESC."
Depending on how they drive it and if they are running the radio and light I would say anywhere from 30-45mins. And with the better charger they can be back up and running in less time the then crappy stock charger
Hey man my son's is not turning on but when you switch it on there is nothing but when you turn the steering wheel it lights up until you stop turning it. Do you have any idea what's going on.
Sounds like you may have a wire grounding out some where. The steering shift runs over top of the ESC so I would make sure a wire isn't caught/loose or rubbing some where.
I just don't see nothing crossed. But the wire loose is blue but everywhere I Google it seems to be the ground wire. It's the long blue wire off the circuit board attached to power and radio. There's only two.
Seems like I have something twisted because the steering motor is creating current. But I've checked everything. Thanks tho. Guess I will get him another one..
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12-1-20
"NEW" BCP Weelye Wiring Video"
ruclips.net/video/b_Ajbs-E7O0/видео.html
This will show you the Schematic live and layed out as we will do a 24v upgrade to the stock harness complete with parts. Enjoy
So far the best video out there, thanks for your info. I just bought a RX30 because i fried the one my son had, im thinking of running the 12v motor until they hit the ground then upgrade to the 24v motor and gear.
Ya you can use the 12v motors till they burn up. My suggestion is you just get the direct 24v gearbox/motor for quick install there cheap enough and worth the time save. Plus its always good to start with fresh
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Thanks bro. Not much info on this conversion but looking forward in doing it
No problem any questions fell free to ask
Thank you!!!!!! Perfect video. Had a blue wire pop out of something, I just started your vid but I'll find what it is now lol
Glad it helped out
@@Neonjer11 Saw another persons comment about the same long blue wire not attached anything. It is indeed the radio antenna as you replied in their comment. My jeep was turning on, lights work, but it would just stutter a little and stop. Eventually dying completely. Ours is 3 yrs old and everything looks good, going to grab a new battery
@@pumpkin9916 ya the jeeps are funny mine did the same before I sold them had to replace the batteries
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I hooked up 2 18V makita batteries the original set up had 2 12V batteries. I had fuses hooked up as well and as soon as I turned it on the board burned out. I’m thinking I wired something wrong. Should I be able to support those 2 18V batteries?
@@NusinkisTV you possibly fried the esc board. Input voltage is 12v on the original esc, not 18v. If you upgraded esc to the RX-30and had 18v to it, then you definitely had wires wrong.
Can u tell me what the blue wire connect to?
Nice job bud . Ur good dad
Hi and thank you I have done the 12v to 24v conversion with remote and all is great thanks to your video!! We have the same jeep and I wanted to ask where you got the led for the light bar? I would like to do this too!!
Thank you sir.
It is the existing one I just ran wire up to the light area and soldered in 4x flat chip 12v LEDs that fit. Then just added a switch
Dei ao meu filho um carro parecido com esse, mas só tem radio e luz dianteira.
Pretendo alterar para 24v. O que percebi é adquirir um rx30 e depois e ligar os cabos do rx23 para o rx30. Pelo que pesquisei só te ho que ter atenção à conversao de 24v para 12v a fiação que vai para o radio e volante e luzes certo? No rssto do carro pode ficar os 24v. O comando do rx23 é compatível com o rx30?
I tried a mod upgrade from the 12v to 18v drill batt just how other videos show, on this exact model best choice jeep.
Only, it did not work at all.
Did ever try that route?
Or do you have any tips on how i can successfully install that 18v batt mod?
You can't add 18v on the 12v system. You can only do 18v on the 24v and that's not guaranteed to work as the esc requires a certain voltage to operate properly. To much and you'll fry it, to little and it won't power it
Other videos don't have a esc(electronic speed controller) these boxes can only handle recommend voltage
Ok.
Thank you so much for the info and quick reply.
Very much appreciated
Is there a video on how i can upgrade to a Hobby Grade Remote,ESC, etc
Lol I don't have one myself but I've thought about it.
My jeep start light turns on(red) but no noise or when hit the pedal it don’t work.. I don’t know what to do .. I change the control box and still the same result help please
Double check your wiring is correct. Every keep is diffrent
Is the 18,000rpm better than the 40,000rpm? My daughter has a jeep like this that on the Milwaukee it takes off super slow then picks up after like 20ft
So 40k will have a higher top speed but little torque the lower the rpm usually the higher the torque. So a happy medium is about 18k higher then stock but not enough to notice torque loss. Hope I answered what you were asking
Also Milwaukee battery 18v on what ESC? Rx30? If so your losing 25% because of the 18v if you have 24v motors
@Neonjer11 ok perfect. So the numbers like the 18000 and 30000 and 40000 is classified as over stock. Ok
Yes I think stock is 9k or 12k
@@Neonjer11 Do you have any recommendations of what to use for a Milwaukee 18V battery then?? Hot swapping batteries is the whole reason I looked into the conversion, and subsequently fried my 12V board right off the bat. Ran super fast for about 15 seconds though!
I just bought the weelye kit to convert my sons Best Choice Jeep from 12v to 24v and the steering wiring is different from the kit. Just making sure I'm doing the right thing bcoz there's still 2 wires and as long as I connect the ground with ground wire and power with power wire I shouldn't have any problem.
Also do you suggest to have a regulator for the steering so it is not receiving all 24 volt and possible frying the steering motor?
Thanks in advance and by far the most informative video, atleast for me.
Not sure about your specific steering setup tho. The 2 wire setup can NOT be regulated
Is this Esc setup compatible with two 12v 12ah lipo batteries?
Hey boss man, i have a similar Jeep Radio works lights work it kicks on and everything, but it only goes in reverse, not forward any idea what it could be?
if its after the upgrade probably a wire in the wrong spot dbl check. it could also be a bad shifter
I haven't done any upgrades yet. I'm just trying to find a fix to this current issue.
I bought a new battery, hooked it up to charge, and now it won't go forward or backward, but radio, lights work. Idk I'm stumped
@antoniobelmontes2146 start with the basics. test the motors with 12v see if the run. if that's ok. next bypass the pedal. very common they go bad. if not that bypass the shifter. it should be one of those.
Thank you, sir. I will do 🫡
Is the speed control on the remote suppose to work? Seems like the 24v model has it for a reason, I am not sure why it does not work. Everything else is working as intended.
You need to.sync the remote to the unit.
@@Neonjer11 The remote is synced and works for everything, except the S button that controls speed. When it was 12v, the number of red lights would change 1-3 to indicate speed when pressing that button. Now as 24v the S button changes the 1-3 led's but not the speed of the jeep.
Got ya. Are you testing the speed with the truck in the air or with a child on the ground around the yard
@@Neonjer11 I have tried both. There is no change in speed, maybe the unit or controller is bad? I don't see where any wiring mistakes would cause this, right?
Have you upgraded the motor and gearbox? I followed your link but that looks like the 550 series motor and those only handle 12v from what I was told and the gearbox rings wear out if you jump to 24v? Unless you upgrade the gearbox and motor?
In the links in the description there 24v motor/gearbox combo direct replacement. The stock motor is rated 12v. heres the ones I just replaced my sons with over the summer in August, these are the ones you see working in the video.
24v 30000rpm
www.amazon.com/dp/B085LN41TJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_eUTIFbQEK6WQQ
Here the original ones I installed 2 years ago,
18000rpm 24v
www.amazon.com/dp/B07T572NXL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_btf_t1_nWTIFbWZ39QRA
550 motors come in 3 version that i know of 6v, 12v, 24v. You can get those all in a gearbox in weeyle style for the jeeps. 570 motors are little better but tend not to be in a gearbox combo unless you buying a Peg Perego replacement which are 12v rated. You can find 570 motors that are 24v Johnson makes them, you can usually get them online thru AliExpress just watch what rpm the motor is typically 15k-20k is good anything less will seem slow at 24v
can i just hook the additional lights in front and the lights for the roller bar on the existing wiring for the lights i.e for the roller bar just hook it up on the rear existing light same with the additional in the front to hook in headlights wiring?
If it's the 12v system and that's available on your model. Yes to tap in off those lights, I don't see why not. It's really preference if you want everything on all at once or separate switches
@@Neonjer11 right now its at 12v system with 2 batteries running in parallel but been meaning to do this 24v upgrade like you did. what will be the effect running these additional lights though on the system? just less time running the jeep since its consuming battery? do you have link for the lights you've used in front where it says PIAA?
@lestertipay2630 well the light if upgrading the system will need the voltage regulator. As for the led lights. The rollbar and grill lights(pia) are probably the same size. The smaller lower bumper fog ones are just single 12v led of your color choice
@lestertipay2630 the run time will depend on you batteries AH rating(Amp hours) when running in series you will have 24v but the AH of the single rated battery. Your current setup in parallel increases AH but your voltage is still 12v(ex:parallel 6ah|12v + 6ah|12v= 12v|12ah vs Series 6ah|12v + 6ah|12v= 24v|6ah
Is there anyway to continue using the charging port, or must you charge batteries directly?
You can use the stock charging port tho you will need a new charger when you go 24v. You can change cut the plug off the stock charger and solder it on to your new charger. Tho the new charger usually comes with alligator clips to connect direct to the batteries. Up to you how involved you wanna get
Did do anything to have the slow stop or is it a feature on the 24v rx30?
The Safe start and brake are built into the rx30
Thanks for the video! Working on this right now but for a VW Beetle, converting to 24V from a Weelye 12V. It looks like all the wiring is the same, I have a couple that I don't see in your video. Curious where you are using the 24V to 12V converter exactly. I will have to decipher which wires they are based on what you have yours running to and from. The VW has all ESC and battery under the seat, but the power button and radio are in the dash.
Ok cool, good luck, fee free to post pics in the Google Photos link. The group folders to help others see what your doing and dealing with. Helps everyone. If you have any questions just ask I did post a wiring diagram showing how the 12v-24v wiring setup should be in the Google photos links
Complete wiring walk thru
ruclips.net/video/b_Ajbs-E7O0/видео.html
What led lights did you use for the roll bar and how did you install them?
So I used 22/4 wire and ran it thru the roll bar. Attached the LEDs. And connected to the existing lighting.
Check my Google Folder for some images of the roll bar
Led round 12v
www.amazon.com/dp/B00NNJF1FO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_U-57Fb2H4HTYS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
If I’m simply upgrading the bcp jeep to 24v. My parts list would be the rx30, 18000rpm gearbox/motor, and some 24 to 12v converters for the lights and radio? Oh and of course another battery.
Ya those are pretty much the base components. You do have to make sure your pinout(harness) goes to the correct components as some brands and models may differ
If it’s the exact same Jeep the only thing different is yours has the yellow highlights on it does the harness need to be modified then? Also I will not be installing the high low switch if that helps any. Does the second gearbox/motor need to be installed or will it be fine with just the upgraded one?
@@mikegomez1897 only mod is for lights. And if you want the hi/low switch thats technically optional
Does the radio control still work like this
Ya the Parental Controller should still function, tho the steering may need to be reversed
@@Neonjer11 ok thanks
Hey boss! Thank you for this I have everything to do my daughters but I had a question since I forgot the hi/low switch do I NEED IT? My jeep is a tobbi brand same exact jeep but without the hi low switch unless I can't find it.
No it's not needed. Mine did not have one either. I added one later. Just keep in mind it will just be at max speed and obviously will not have a low mode without that switch.
@@Neonjer11 copy. Thanks man!
Do you recommend the 30000RPM or 18000 RPM gearbox motors?
Either is fine depends on how much top speed you want. Remember the higher the rpm the lower the torque tho with the safe start on the Weelye the torque doesn't matter so much as it starts slow on purpose
Got it, thanks
By adding the extra battery did it make it faster?
Yes but there more then just adding an extra battery if you wanna do it right, So this Jeep got a second battery to make it 24v to power the RX30 speed control which is 24v ESC to go along with the upgraded 24v motors and Gearbox
Check out the results and description for parts i used
ruclips.net/video/etxwfPz493U/видео.html
@@Neonjer11 How much did it cost to upgrade everything? I just got it today and my daughter loves it but it's so slow
@@ryanpatrick7086 all the links are in the description but if you were looking for a basic upgrade. Just direct swap parts. You need extra 12v battery $25, ESC $25, set of motors/gearboxes $50 and 24v to 12v Voltage regulator $10. That will get you to 24v basic setup "without High/low switch". adding a switch runs another $10, but you can switch between hi and low otherwise its always on HI. Plus your time to add some additional wires for high/low switch and to run batteries in series to gain 24v. Everything is pretty much direct replacement except adding those 3 things.
I've got everything done except putting in the step down to 12v. I've see all your pictures and diagrams and I've watched the video with that part a few times. I just can't seem to understand how it's wired.I see you split the ground to have it for your quick connect. Does the power come 24v from the switch splice into the down step to 12 and then just place the other side of the wire on the output side of the regulator? where does the out going ground go to if this is the case? It seems so easy but I just can't wrap my head around it. In the diagram is power coming from the circuit board or what? I see the arrows but I'm confusing myself further.
Have you check the wiring diagram in the Google Photos links that has a basic wiring Schematic with the 12v-24v regulator
I'll try to add a few more pics to the Google Photos link when I get home.
So to Explain when you update to the RX30 and 24v all your current wiring is now 24v off that switch. You now have to remove the power (red) wires for your 12v accessories aka raio and lighting and run those to the output 12v side on your regulator. Then install a new power wire from the switch(now 24v) to the input on the regulator. If everything is set up right. You should have 24v to the switch. NOW WHEN ON Coming out of the switch will be the 24v for your RX30 and a new line going to your regulator dropping the volts to 12v that will feed your radio and lighting. Hope this helps.
I'll add those photos of mine later for visual 👍
@@Neonjer11 Yes that helped a lot, thank you. I was just getting confused because I couldn't tell if the switched was sill 24v or if it needed to be stepped to 12v. Do you have to wire the pedal out going side of the regulator too? I see that it is a negative? I already burned out the radio before I had realized that I needed a regulator and new control circuit board. (Power Wheels don't have them so I based my modification off of them and it was not a good idea)Also I've looked everywhere for a new radio for the jeeps and cannot for the life of me find one online. I tried replacing it with a used one from another jeep but I think it was fried also. Have any suggested links to them? If not, Thank you anyways, you have been a great help.
@@franktorrano5713 the foot pedal on the weelye uses two wires that require ground signal pin 2 and pin 3 (aka.... fwd and back) they have nothing to do with the regulator ground is ground
As for parts:
Kidswheels has stock parts but it takes a bit to get at so don't expect fast shipping, lol
www.kidswheels.com/parts-by-brand/category/856549-best-choice-products-12v-kids-ride-on-truck-car-parts?gclid=CjwKCAiA-_L9BRBQEiwA-bm5frvyhcj9drobtIap1CsEGIo3mnjl8aF88qHg6p36Muw7sfWJNPgQmhoC23sQAvD_BwE
I'll be posting a newer video soon with the parts/wiring on the table
@@Neonjer11 So the outgoing ground on the regulator can go to any ground? Does it even need a ground on the out side?(just want to make sure haha) Thanks for everything you've explained it very well and have help a lot I appreciate it! So will my daughter when she realizes how fast her jeep goes lol.
technically you already have 12v there. you could have connected one battery to the radio instead of using a converter...
Unfortunately this would now have you having to use 2 switches or unnecessary wiring to turn on your vehicle. Powering the radio independently would not keep it functioning as it was on normal startup. This would also pose a problem when charging the batteries as you would have to charge them independently at 12v instead of as a 24v, as each batter would be drawing a different rates. I under stand your view, tho it's not the best solution in my opinion
ever thought of going with rubber tires?
Yes, typically you would not want to change to rubber tires in my opinion due to the stress it would now put on the gear box. The plastic wheels kind of act like a clutch or slip differential like in an RC car. If you take that away any stress relief by the wheels will now be directed to the gearboxs. With a Safe start Weelye Rx30 or equivalent it does provide a gradual start which helps reduce stress to the gearbox. Tho it’s all going to be a decision based on your landscape. I personally like the Best Choice Style Wheels with the traction strip in the center. I added some metal pan head screws every 6-8in to reinforce the traction strips. Hope this help your decision.
@@Neonjer11 Thank you, this was very helpful.
How can you bypass the remote control?
Not sure what what your asking. You mean the "main control box" ?
Great informative video. I should watch it before I burned my daughter radio using 20V battery drill ;)
Maybe do you know where from can I buy this radio motherboard unit?
Thank you for all your knowledge what you shared.
Matt
AliExpress
@@Neonjer11 I bought radio... but it haven't got the same features what this one has
What Size Disconnect Did You Use For Steering Motor?
On the steering motor the plugs/clips connector I used are called DEAN'S you can get them on Amazon or local RC hobby shop
@@Neonjer11 where did you get the plug to go into the rx30 for the steering servo? The square and then the not so squar plug
@@kdsfighter that's the stock clip
Well darn mine has 3 prongs + data - ok thx I'll keep looking
@@kdsfighter I think someone had same issue maybe check Google photos help link
Can you show the 24 to 12v conversion for the accessories. Or can I email you to get a better understanding so I won't fry anything started smelling my electrical board on the 12v so changing to the 24v motherboard-thanks in advance Andy
I'll draw up something today and add it to the description
photos.app.goo.gl/WTM3ZtgMVfsNfzjQ7
i added it to the wiring folder. You will have to disconnect any current accessories that are 12v that are currently connected to the on of switch and reroute them thru the Voltage ⚡ Converter
@@Neonjer11 thank you I'll give that a try. Appreciate the support. Last thing I would want is for my daughter's jeep to catch fire...
@@Neonjer11 I added pictures of my jeep it's a little different from yours see if you can get a better understanding from my pictures thanks.
Any idea what the front motor is doing ?
? Can you be more specific?
@@Neonjer11 I noticed there is a motor in the front in addition to 2 motors in the back and i Wasnt sure what that did - but then I figured its the servo motor for remote steering.
@@mayurgai on these units there are 2 motors plugs and 1 steering servo. please check the Google photos link for pin out pictures
One more question... how does this compare to the East coast powerup "easy esc" kit? Performance, functionality, etc?
Not sure. ECPU is a non stock kit with aftermarket pieces they kited together. I only use stock 24v as they were made with that intent. I'm sure ECPU kit is good tho I've never had one so I can't compare. Tho it looks to be a good kit not sure of the cost tho
@@Neonjer11 I actually purchased that kit and installed it last weekend in the same BCP Jeep you have. It was actually really easy to install, the only problem was figuring out how to mount it. They also DO NOT recommend changing the motors and only using the stock motors that came with it.
@@tiberius1837 that's weird they wouldn't recommend changing the motors to 24v if your installing a 24v kit. I know they have the kits that are variable voltage so you could technically over volt and dial in to say 18v and get a bit more life on your 12v motors before they toast out. Tho, If your over volting the 12v motors @ 24v you will eventually burn them out faster. 12v motors are usually rated 14.4v max. For normal operation. This is why I recommend using the stock parts made for the rideon and upgrading them to the 24v version made parts. I'm not saying ECPU is a bad kit, or that the stock parts are better. I'm saying it doesn't make sense they would advise against 24v motors. Just some information on BCP Jeeps: you can buy.....
1: pre-assembled 24v motor/gearboxes
2:change motors to 24v using
--aftermarket 550s size
or
--aftermarket 570s size
(10t pinions may be required for certain motors not supplied in packaging, just FYI)
*also 775s do not fit the gearboxes for BestChoice on the Jeeps. I hope this helps for informational purposes thx for the feedback
@@Neonjer11 well, here's their justification for it: "(Q) Can I upgrade the factory motors?
(A) NO. Changing the factory motor speed can damage the new motors and ESC. If for example you replace the factory 8,000 rpm motors with 30,000 rpm motors you are quadrupling the theoretical final speed which is like attempting to start your car from a stop in fifth gear and will create a tremendous strain and cause parts to fail. You want to power up (volt up) and gear down or at least gear neutral. Changing the speed without changing the power is the same as simply starting a low powered car in a higher gear. You may gain a little speed but the low end torque is lost and this is very likely to overheat the motors and circuit board/ESC."
@@tiberius1837 you are confusing Voltage and RPM. 2 different things
You can buy a 24v 550 in any rpm you want
What is the average run time?
Depending on how they drive it and if they are running the radio and light I would say anywhere from 30-45mins. And with the better charger they can be back up and running in less time the then crappy stock charger
Hey man my son's is not turning on but when you switch it on there is nothing but when you turn the steering wheel it lights up until you stop turning it. Do you have any idea what's going on.
Sounds like you may have a wire grounding out some where. The steering shift runs over top of the ESC so I would make sure a wire isn't caught/loose or rubbing some where.
I just don't see nothing crossed. But the wire loose is blue but everywhere I Google it seems to be the ground wire. It's the long blue wire off the circuit board attached to power and radio. There's only two.
I even unhook the battery and it still lights up when I turn steering wheel.
@@majorhowell1453 the blue wire it usually the antenna wire and not connected to anything at its for radio reception
Seems like I have something twisted because the steering motor is creating current. But I've checked everything. Thanks tho. Guess I will get him another one..