**UPDATE: Putting a higher voltage into your power wheels could damage other electronics onboard (Radio, lights and so forth). If you plan on doing these modifications, UNPLUG those electronics before applying higher voltages. You will not be able to use those electronics while running over 14volts. The motors can handle the extra load BUT lights and radios could be damaged since they are only designed for 12 volts. ** Also, this modification works very well with 20v tool batteries as well, no need to go out and purchase a Ryobi 40volt battery if you don't have one.
For other ride-ons that have a circuit board (music, steering motor, R/C etc) can you install this as a "Boost" to the motors between the circuit board and the motors? You keep the original battery connected that way the board does not get damage with the increase in voltage?. Just an idea, I'm toying with this..im not an engineer
@@FernandoLarez I had a friend with a car that used a circuit board. He found a replacement one online that supported up to 24volts and then used a 20v tool battery to boost his speed. It worked really well. Just see if you can get one that supports 24v instead of 12v.
Thank you for posting! All the other videos just show their kids driving the power wheels. No disrespect to them but I didn’t come for that I came for the explanation. You earned a new subscriber.
Just did this exact mod, pink barbie power wheels jeep. SO easy and works like a charm. Thanks for the walkthough! I used your amazon links to make the purchases.
I’m an FPV pilot and for my one daughter 1st bday I got her a car and she loves it. It uses a crappy 2.4 remote and I’ve always wanted to add a 915 system and connect it to my drone radio. You have inspired me to start it! And she tossed the remote in the trash without us knowing and they want 30 bucks for that piece of plastic lol
Sounds like a great project! Just be careful of the higher voltage batteries damaging your radio equipment (I'm sure youll keep the power systems separate). Let me know how it turns out!
My boy has a bigger power wheels jeep two person. All I did was cut off the wires from the jeep plug stick on some adapter plugs and plug it into my 5amp hour, 20volt dewalt straight. His jeep will hit 13km with him on it. He now loves it. You do have to watch that the battery does not run down too far, or the battery is ruined! I let him drive around 20 minutes or so then check the battery and charge as needed.
The pwm controller is only there to adjust the speed. If you want it to run max speed all the time your option works great! As for the battery running down too low. Some tools have low voltage battery protection in the tool, and some have low voltage protection in the battery, you can Google that to verify with your specific battery!
I tend to like the Ryobi One+ batteries, because they lift straight out. If you have room for them, you can mount them permanently, and they won't need to be removed, to slide the battery out. The current model adapter even has its own power switch.
I pushed 40v in my daughters Vette and I blew both motors in 4 seconds. Cheap to replace, lesson learned. No way the 550 motors can take 40v EVER! Maybe a 750 could take a few minutes but the best is using a dewalt 20v and its solid, cannot beat it.
I used same pwm controller....kept burning up my boards instantly. I bypassed it and no issues....20v dewalt battery though. Just ordered a 40v ryobi, gunna throw it in the 2nd car n see what it do
Just dont push it the best part of this mod is the hot swappable batteries dont go too much higher than the normal voltage of the car it can cause alot of problems. I modded 2 of my kids powerwheels with ryobi 18v system withe the same speed controller and they drive until they dont wanna drive anymore not because the battery died. Powerwheels should adopt this system and even remove the speed controller it would still be awesome for the kids.
Can you wire the 40v battery straight to the car with an inline fuse without going through the controller? What are the risks of doing this? I have wired an M18 milwaukee battery to our power wheels but the kids want more speed 😅.
So I bought a ride on for my daughter the ride on is a 24v utv 2 motor and already comes with a controller that has a read out on it when I add the 40v and turn it up to 60% the readout on the car turn from 24 to 35v would the current controller in the car limit how much I can push the car and can I go more due to the 24v motors ?
Hi, great job!! I'm making the same modification to my daughter's car, I wanted to ask you if you connected the controller directly to the two wires (positive and negative) that come from the original control unit of the car (where the lights, radio etc are connected)
it is pretty working great. i have a question why the PWM controller is getting hot? i touched the outside the metal box. it was pretty hot and stop moving but still on. little help please
hi jasonoid. This upgrade was great but all of the sudden my 30 amp fuse is blowing on all four of my powerwheels. they were fine and running for hours. What could be causing the sudden change on numerous cars/
I like this idea, but my daughters jeep has the option of 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive. It also has 3 speeds and parental remote. It has 4 motors. One at each wheel. How could I do this?
If you have fancy electronics (lights, radios and such) those probably won't be compatible with your power wheel and might be damaged with the higher voltage. The one I used in the video was Plain Jane and had nothing but the motors and battery.
How much power can it safely take. I put a ryobi 18v in a 12v power wheels and it can now do 6.8mph instead of 4.5. We have a 24v ride in toy also that I want to give more power as it’s an ATV with 4 200w motors making it a true 4x4
i am doing a project similar to this will Putting 40 volts burnout the motor or the radio in the vehicle and what is the ( mph ) if you can give me a reply I would love that
Any electronics might be damaged with the higher voltage so unplug those before doing the mod (radio lights and so forth). Using a 20v tool battery is best because the motors won't get quite as hot and burn up.
Interesting I setup my kids Jeep Wrangler power wheel with (2) 18 volt Makita batteries and a speed controller. Mine doesn’t look as quick as yours, I’m guessing different models have different motors in them.
So 18V and 20V batteries worked fine. I don’t have a 24V to try, but I tried a 28V I had and put it in a Power Wheels Jeep and it blew the power converted that sends the power to the motors or and the radio caught on fire 😂😂 so be careful guys haha
I saw in other videos that batteries used in tools are only configured to prevent themselves from totally depleting when used with tools of the same brand, so you still should use a fuse if you use them
Great video but can you describe how you made the gas pedal fit into the mechanics of that, how does the controller know when the gas pedal is being pressed
Hey Drake, the controller is on, it's always putting out the set power/voltage, pressing the gas pedal just closes the circuit and puts electricity to the wheels. The pedal acts like a switch basically.
I seen so many burn up they control board any way to avoid that I was thinking getting ride of my accessories but idk if my control board would still handle it?
Great explanation on how to do it. I do have a couple of questions. I have a Huffy Torex Atv, it is 24v but it has 2 motors. Can I put both motors on the same output channel? Or do I need a 2 output controller? Also, can I leave the original 40A controller with the original battery aside to use the lights, etc, and make the 40v conversion just for the motors.
I’m just a grandma trying to do something like this for my grandkids. I’m just wondering if I could do this with a Hitachi 1820L battery? It is a Ni-cad 18 v battery. Is there an adapter that would make this work? Thanks!
So in my experience or lack of I find them able to put way more voltage to them if I wire the motors in series instead of parallel and for the brake put in some kind of resistance so that it doesn't just immediately try to stop using the break to try to stop it at 15 miles an hour seems to tear up the engines. Also I've had zero survive at 48 volts with car batteries but 36 V wired in series seems to be okay also 44 V using two car batteries and 1 20 volt drill battery. 😀 My ultimate goal is 30 mph so far all I can get is about 22. I'm going to put in a voltage resistor and slowly ramp in the 48 volts and see if I can get it up to 30mph.
When you have the two motors in series you are dividing the voltage effectively in half to each motor. Additionally in series the resistances of the motors will be greater and reduce the current flow. Hooked up in parallel each motor will see 40V and resistances will be lower resulting in more current to each motor. In general, the lower current will result in lower speed output of the motor. Overall getting less out of the motor compared to 40V but it's also preventing the motors from getting destroyed.
Pretty cool , have a dual motor Range Rover planing to modify , but I’m sure I’ll need a lot more than just battery and control unit , any suggestions ?
The battery and controller should be all you need, you'll want to unhook any other electronics like headlights and radios since they can't handle the higher voltages.
Have you had any issues with your speed controller burning up. I have had 2 burn up and haven't pushed pass 40% power. Also have you had issues with the ryobi battery shutting down from to much power being pulled at once. I'm thinking about adding a accelerator pedal so that power is gradually increased. Thanks for the info
The Ryobi batteries do shut down if there are too many amps pulled. Happens all the time when I am edging my sidewalk with my edger attachment. I have seen it happen with my power wheel if I have it turned up past 50 and it has lots of weight in there, two large kiddos. Still on my first pwm controller no issues with mine. Not sure why yours have failed.
That means the battery has too many amps being pulled and it's shutting off from over current protection. Maybe the motors are bigger than mine and pulling too many amps from the battery.
The controller board won't accept the higher voltage, it will get fried. You can search for a "24 volt" controller board for your model and you can run a 20v tool battery as a replacement.
That should work, BUT the benefit of the PWM controller is to be able to control the max speed for your kid. So if they are learning you can turn down the speed by dropping the voltage, if they have practice you can turn it up to a higher voltage/speed. Voltage controls the speed of the motors, amperage isn't that big to worry about. The PWM controller I used in the video is listed in the video description, I can't remember the exact specs for it.
I have a 40v 6amp ryobi battery for my mower I did the same set up as you in my dune racer if I turn it up over 30% you step on the gas and it goes a few feet then stops and the middle two lights on the battery blink do you know what’s the issue. Once they blink nothing works including the speed control till I pull out the battery and put it back in. I did install a 30amp fuse. Have any idea to be able to go to 50-60%?
I've noticed the Ryobi batteries have a built in surge limit, kinda like a temporary circuit breaker. If I ride on my kids power wheel (lots more weight than my kids) my battery cuts power for 30 seconds or something. The battery also cuts out if I'm edging my lawn and the blade gets stuck, seems to be a similar issue. How much weight is in the dune rider? Two kids or one kid? Does it do it with less weight?
@@Jasonoid 2kids. So if it’s got a built is surge protector I probably don’t need a fuse. I rode it fine on both slow and fast at 30% and I’m close to 260. Any bit over 30% it kills it’s self after a 3-6’. Now I know that’s only 30 sec
@@NAOSANT it might have bigger motors than my power wheel and draws more amps. Mine cuts out like yours at 60% on the dial... And the motors get hot real quick at that speed. 30% is still faster than stock speed right? It have should a ton of runtime with that huge 6ah battery too.... Only thing I can think of is maybe try using larger gauge wires?
@@NAOSANT maybe just to the motors, not sure if it would do much though. I just thought of another idea, maybe you can disconnect power from one motor and see if it still shuts off at 30%
Hi I like the video but could u show me how the motor wires go from the motor to the speed controller because I'm finding it hard to do it do they both go together then in to the speed controller or does the red wire of the motor go to one bit and the black go in to the other
The video shows the wiring. The battery wires go to the battery connection on the PWM controller, the motor connect to the motor connections on the PWM controller.
@@Jasonoid had it going for about an hour going up hill and down on a road. Doesn't seem to lower in voltage. 90° weather right now. No overheating. No way to adjust voltage though.
@@Jasonoid well i bought it used for 5$. No battery so needed something to work on it. Gears grinding ehen i had a normal 12v battery on it. Don't wanna mess it up more so will have to stay at 5 mph for like 3 hours of run time for now. When and i do get upgrades, if the wife allows, i will try to get the metal gears and rip it.
So with you running at 20ish volts no problems one wouldn’t need a PCM if they wanted to run an 18v ryobi, just take the adapter for the battery straight into the existing wiring. Would that be correct?
How do the batteries hold up with getting drained faster and lower then normal? Or do you even have to worry about draining the batteries to extremely low levels repeatedly with this set up?
I have multiple batteries so I rotate through them. This uses the same power as a weed Wacker so not more power draw than normal. The batteries have held up fine.
I run this at 45% to 55% on the PWM controller and it's still going strong. It's nice to be able to adjust the output for little kids (25%) and then turn it up with older kids (50% or so). No issues with the motors yet.
Everything is stock except the battery and pwm controller. Running at 55% or lower works fine, so a 24v battery would perform the same. No damage to my gearboxes yet and it's been going for over a year weekly.
You'd be safe using these same components with a 18v tool battery. I used the Ryobi 40v because that's what I already had for my electric scooter project. It's been holding up fine, I never go above 55%, nothing burning yet
Thanks for video! I'm halfway through a build on my kids dune racer. The dune racer has two rear Motors. Can I daisy chain those Motors against this device since it only has output for 1 motor?
If you connect the PWM controller to the motors, it will run both of them. Just make sure they are connected in parallel. I didn't need to make any changes to my wiring, I just connected it to the stock wires so you may want to do that.
@@Jasonoid BLUF: I need to go stock wires that used to go to 12v to device motor out - device - battery out to ryobi base. Appreciate the quick reply! I see now. I have 1 set of wires that used to go to the battery. I see now that those go to motor out and the device sits between that and my ryobi 40v. I modded two old chargers as my battery base and connected them in parallel for extended life should I need that 😜
Depends on the size of your motors/power wheel. Running the pwm controller at 55% with a 40v battery seems to hold up well. Mines be going consistently for over a year. Anything above 55% causes excessive heat and damage so don't run it higher than that. Using a 20v tool battery would be fine at 100%. I used the 40v battery because I had a bunch of them laying around. Make sure to unhook any accessories like radios or lights before the mod because they can't handle the higher voltage.
I have several dewalt 20v batteries that a larger amp hour, and several large ryobi 18v batteries, do you think either would make a good battery for this or should I use this as an excuse to get into the ryobi 40v line up lol
Mine is an 'old school' power wheels, no remote control, no lights, no radio, no smart controller. Just a battery, forward or reverse switch, gas pedal and motors.
Fried my motors possibly. Attached the 40v to the adapter and turned it on. Instantly heard a loud pop and the lights flickered. Seems like I needed to step down the voltage. Is that controller what I'm missing?
Every powerwheels is a little different. My power wheels was super old fashioned and had no electronics inside (radio, lights, speakers) so there was nothing to fry. The newer models have electronics that aren't designed for voltages above 12v. To keep my motors from burning up I usually run my pwm controller at 50 - 55% power. That's a fast speed for my kids.
Nice work and tutorial. 👍 In my case, I am about to purchase the Peg Perego 12v John Deere tractor for my grandson. It has the other electronic features....radio etc.... If I was only looking to increase the usage time, couldn't I just upgrade the 12v battery to an increased amps per hour rating? Like from a 8 ah to like a 36 ah without the possibility of damaging anything? Of course a longer run time would increase the heat on the motors. Any thoughts on that? Thanks.
Running a larger 12v lead acid battery would allow for much longer run times. If the tractor has space for a larger battery I would do that! No damage to the radio lights and other accessories.
@@Jasonoid , WOW....thanks for the fast reply! Yes.....there's a RUclips video of someone running a large auto battery in the same toy tractor. Thanks again. 👍
@@PTucker0864 I’m not sure but I think the watt hours also need be looked into because I think if it’s a high wh battery then that might damage the electronics but I cannot be certain.
@@Alexander_l322 , the battery only controls the motors on that John Deere. What I did was hook 2 batteries in series that would fit under the hood. No complaints so far.
I run this at 45% to 55% on the PWM controller and it's still going strong. It's nice to be able to adjust the output for little kids (25%) and then turn it up with older kids (50% or so). No issues with the motors yet.
Stock gearboxes, mine has twin motors so less stress on each motor/gearbox. If yours has one motor just mod it an 18volt battery or 24 volt battery max.
**UPDATE: Putting a higher voltage into your power wheels could damage other electronics onboard (Radio, lights and so forth). If you plan on doing these modifications, UNPLUG those electronics before applying higher voltages. You will not be able to use those electronics while running over 14volts. The motors can handle the extra load BUT lights and radios could be damaged since they are only designed for 12 volts. **
Also, this modification works very well with 20v tool batteries as well, no need to go out and purchase a Ryobi 40volt battery if you don't have one.
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This set up dosnt work with the smart drive mustang. Bought all shown supplies and dosnt work. Keeps overloading the board
Also the links you have for the controller is no longer the controller you have
For other ride-ons that have a circuit board (music, steering motor, R/C etc) can you install this as a "Boost" to the motors between the circuit board and the motors? You keep the original battery connected that way the board does not get damage with the increase in voltage?. Just an idea, I'm toying with this..im not an engineer
@@FernandoLarez I had a friend with a car that used a circuit board. He found a replacement one online that supported up to 24volts and then used a 20v tool battery to boost his speed. It worked really well. Just see if you can get one that supports 24v instead of 12v.
this guy is nice enough to explain how it works and installation. GOOD
Such a fun project, very easy as well. Would recommend!
Works great! From dad to dad I thank you for this shortcut. As you know, our free time to figure stuff out is minimal. Thanks!!!
U got URSELF a SUBSCRIBER in me. Thank u for the attention to detail
YOU, SIR, ARE A SAINT! And a scholar!!!!! Thank you for this!!!!!
This absolutely worked great on our power wheels jeep that hadn’t been usable in a few years. You rock!
Thank you for posting! All the other videos just show their kids driving the power wheels. No disrespect to them but I didn’t come for that I came for the explanation. You earned a new subscriber.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching :D
Just did this exact mod, pink barbie power wheels jeep. SO easy and works like a charm. Thanks for the walkthough! I used your amazon links to make the purchases.
Thanks for watching, just be careful above 55% on the controller, my motors got hot real quick! This thing flies haha
I’m an FPV pilot and for my one daughter 1st bday I got her a car and she loves it. It uses a crappy 2.4 remote and I’ve always wanted to add a 915 system and connect it to my drone radio. You have inspired me to start it! And she tossed the remote in the trash without us knowing and they want 30 bucks for that piece of plastic lol
Sounds like a great project! Just be careful of the higher voltage batteries damaging your radio equipment (I'm sure youll keep the power systems separate). Let me know how it turns out!
My boy has a bigger power wheels jeep two person. All I did was cut off the wires from the jeep plug stick on some adapter plugs and plug it into my 5amp hour, 20volt dewalt straight. His jeep will hit 13km with him on it. He now loves it. You do have to watch that the battery does not run down too far, or the battery is ruined! I let him drive around 20 minutes or so then check the battery and charge as needed.
The pwm controller is only there to adjust the speed. If you want it to run max speed all the time your option works great! As for the battery running down too low. Some tools have low voltage battery protection in the tool, and some have low voltage protection in the battery, you can Google that to verify with your specific battery!
Thanks. It will be great gift for my nephews.
Youve a voice of preacher. Great video also
Haha, thanks!
I tend to like the Ryobi One+ batteries, because they lift straight out. If you have room for them, you can mount them permanently, and they won't need to be removed, to slide the battery out. The current model adapter even has its own power switch.
I bought a power wheel from goodwill for $100 and this is the first thing i thought about lol it has good sized gaps in the body i cant wait lol
Great little upgrade project. Thanks for sharing that.
Thanks for watching!
The PWM controller you used/linked isn't available anymore. Any others to suggest in its place?
Awesome video dude. Thank you for layin it out the way you did. Fantastic work bro
Thanks!
Can’t wait to try this with my kids thanks
Hi, the Amazon linked motor speed adapter is no longer available. Can you post a replacement?
If you use a fuse inbetween your battery lead and electric panel you can prevent damage to the motor
How does that 40v battery not burn up thr 12v motors?
I pushed 40v in my daughters Vette and I blew both motors in 4 seconds. Cheap to replace, lesson learned. No way the 550 motors can take 40v EVER! Maybe a 750 could take a few minutes but the best is using a dewalt 20v and its solid, cannot beat it.
Just run it at 50% and you'll get longer run times with 40v than 20v. But yeah, my motors only got hot once and I turned it down quick.
What motors did you put in? I just put a 40v in my sons and it burned out the motor in 1 minute
I used same pwm controller....kept burning up my boards instantly. I bypassed it and no issues....20v dewalt battery though. Just ordered a 40v ryobi, gunna throw it in the 2nd car n see what it do
Was it a 24v prior to build?
Just dont push it the best part of this mod is the hot swappable batteries dont go too much higher than the normal voltage of the car it can cause alot of problems. I modded 2 of my kids powerwheels with ryobi 18v system withe the same speed controller and they drive until they dont wanna drive anymore not because the battery died. Powerwheels should adopt this system and even remove the speed controller it would still be awesome for the kids.
I know ima teen but I’m gonna do this😂
Just got the same one for free not working so I’m looking forward to it, controller no longer on Amazon will find one similar
Did you find an alternative controller that worked?
Were you able to get it to operate in reverse without flipping the PWM switch?
Good good I added a fuse just in case
Can you wire the 40v battery straight to the car with an inline fuse without going through the controller? What are the risks of doing this? I have wired an M18 milwaukee battery to our power wheels but the kids want more speed 😅.
So I bought a ride on for my daughter the ride on is a 24v utv 2 motor and already comes with a controller that has a read out on it when I add the 40v and turn it up to 60% the readout on the car turn from 24 to 35v would the current controller in the car limit how much I can push the car and can I go more due to the 24v motors ?
Great tutorial!
Thank you!
I recently attempted this mod, and the speed controller just click and nothing works, any assistance would be appreciated.
Mine too I burn the controller
Hi, great job!! I'm making the same modification to my daughter's car, I wanted to ask you if you connected the controller directly to the two wires (positive and negative) that come from the original control unit of the car (where the lights, radio etc are connected)
it is pretty working great. i have a question why the PWM controller is getting hot? i touched the outside the metal box. it was pretty hot and stop moving but still on. little help please
Awesome video !!
hi jasonoid. This upgrade was great but all of the sudden my 30 amp fuse is blowing on all four of my powerwheels. they were fine and running for hours. What could be causing the sudden change on numerous cars/
All u need is a higher AH battery most are AH 7 u can go to 10 same volts 12 v just the AH is longer lasting so u don't fry nothing up
How fast does it go now?
I've got an ego 56v battery. Can you post a link for a speed controller that can handle that?
I like this idea, but my daughters jeep has the option of 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive. It also has 3 speeds and parental remote. It has 4 motors. One at each wheel. How could I do this?
Did you have to open the Dewalt battery to connect the wires to it.
So my son has the grave digger powers wheels which is a 24v system. Since your going from 12v to 40v in theory i shouldnt have an issue
If you have fancy electronics (lights, radios and such) those probably won't be compatible with your power wheel and might be damaged with the higher voltage. The one I used in the video was Plain Jane and had nothing but the motors and battery.
How much power can it safely take. I put a ryobi 18v in a 12v power wheels and it can now do 6.8mph instead of 4.5. We have a 24v ride in toy also that I want to give more power as it’s an ATV with 4 200w motors making it a true 4x4
You are the Elon Musk of Power Wheels, my friend :)
My girls were just flying in this thing last night, they were having a blast!
i am doing a project similar to this will Putting 40 volts burnout the motor or the radio in the vehicle and what is the ( mph ) if you can give me a reply I would love that
Nice!
Great vid! Can I do this mod on my sons Lamborghini Urus SUV??
Any electronics might be damaged with the higher voltage so unplug those before doing the mod (radio lights and so forth). Using a 20v tool battery is best because the motors won't get quite as hot and burn up.
Thank you Sooo so much
PUTS A HUGE SMILE ON MY FACE TO SEE THE GIRLS ENJOYING IT 🇺🇸🔫
They sure love this car! haha
Very cool! Couldn't a guy just wire up an inline dimmer between the battery and motor lead, or is the controller unit absolutely necessary? 🤔
There are probably many ways to do it. This way just gives you the most consistent power output. Thanks for watching!
Stock motors? Do you keep it at 50% to protect the motors ? I ran a 40v without pwm and it lasted about 10 minutes before it burned up 1 of the motors
Those cuts I would have used the pieces I cut out flipped them around and melted it back together no holes. Not that it matters I’m just a tad OCD 😂😂😂
Interesting I setup my kids Jeep Wrangler power wheel with (2) 18 volt Makita batteries and a speed controller. Mine doesn’t look as quick as yours, I’m guessing different models have different motors in them.
I run my batteries near 24 volts so just a little higher than 18 volts. (55% on the knob of the pwm controller).
I hope I can find a battery tray for my kobalt batterys , I've already got the car.
You should be able to find a custom tray on ebay for them.
this is my stupid question would a black and decker 40 volt be as good or is Ryobi the better battery.
So 18V and 20V batteries worked fine. I don’t have a 24V to try, but I tried a 28V I had and put it in a Power Wheels Jeep and it blew the power converted that sends the power to the motors or and the radio caught on fire 😂😂 so be careful guys haha
The newer "rc style" power wheels are way more advanced than the one in the video. This one is old school and didn't have any thing fancy.
Any idea why some mods include inline fuses? Great video - looking forward to breathing life into a dead power wheels.
Just for safety, these 40v batteries have built in fuses though so no worries. Most tool batteries do as well.
@@Jasonoid Awesome - thanks. I've got a 40v 4ah ready to go.
I saw in other videos that batteries used in tools are only configured to prevent themselves from totally depleting when used with tools of the same brand, so you still should use a fuse if you use them
@@nationalisthomestead4528 I added a fuse as a cautionary measure.
I have a 56v ego leaf blower battery I want to try this o. The grave digger monster truck
If your power wheels has other electronics like radios and headlights, you'll want to unhook those since they can't handle the higher voltage.
Great video but can you describe how you made the gas pedal fit into the mechanics of that, how does the controller know when the gas pedal is being pressed
Hey Drake, the controller is on, it's always putting out the set power/voltage, pressing the gas pedal just closes the circuit and puts electricity to the wheels. The pedal acts like a switch basically.
@@Jasonoid where does the gas pedal wires go, do they fit into the controller
They go straight to the shifter (which adjusts power direction) and then goes to the motors
Is the stock battery still hooked up in the car?
Would I be correct to assume this basic wire diagram for the perego brand power wheels? Great video
This is a power wheel brand so not sure what other brands would be.
I seen so many burn up they control board any way to avoid that I was thinking getting ride of my accessories but idk if my control board would still handle it?
Great explanation on how to do it. I do have a couple of questions. I have a Huffy Torex Atv, it is 24v but it has 2 motors. Can I put both motors on the same output channel? Or do I need a 2 output controller? Also, can I leave the original 40A controller with the original battery aside to use the lights, etc, and make the 40v conversion just for the motors.
Im trying to do the same, how did it work out?
I’m just a grandma trying to do something like this for my grandkids. I’m just wondering if I could do this with a Hitachi 1820L battery? It is a Ni-cad 18 v battery. Is there an adapter that would make this work? Thanks!
So in my experience or lack of I find them able to put way more voltage to them if I wire the motors in series instead of parallel and for the brake put in some kind of resistance so that it doesn't just immediately try to stop using the break to try to stop it at 15 miles an hour seems to tear up the engines. Also I've had zero survive at 48 volts with car batteries but 36 V wired in series seems to be okay also 44 V using two car batteries and 1 20 volt drill battery. 😀 My ultimate goal is 30 mph so far all I can get is about 22. I'm going to put in a voltage resistor and slowly ramp in the 48 volts and see if I can get it up to 30mph.
When you have the two motors in series you are dividing the voltage effectively in half to each motor. Additionally in series the resistances of the motors will be greater and reduce the current flow. Hooked up in parallel each motor will see 40V and resistances will be lower resulting in more current to each motor. In general, the lower current will result in lower speed output of the motor.
Overall getting less out of the motor compared to 40V but it's also preventing the motors from getting destroyed.
Any controls there to prevent the battery from over draining?
That is built into the Ryobi battery itself.
Pretty cool , have a dual motor Range Rover planing to modify , but I’m sure I’ll need a lot more than just battery and control unit , any suggestions ?
The battery and controller should be all you need, you'll want to unhook any other electronics like headlights and radios since they can't handle the higher voltages.
Have you had any issues with your speed controller burning up. I have had 2 burn up and haven't pushed pass 40% power. Also have you had issues with the ryobi battery shutting down from to much power being pulled at once. I'm thinking about adding a accelerator pedal so that power is gradually increased. Thanks for the info
The Ryobi batteries do shut down if there are too many amps pulled. Happens all the time when I am edging my sidewalk with my edger attachment. I have seen it happen with my power wheel if I have it turned up past 50 and it has lots of weight in there, two large kiddos.
Still on my first pwm controller no issues with mine. Not sure why yours have failed.
Battery keeps shutting down did you find remedy
That means the battery has too many amps being pulled and it's shutting off from over current protection. Maybe the motors are bigger than mine and pulling too many amps from the battery.
@@malcolm3.0 I have the same issue. Did you find a solution?
This is amazing! Do i need the speed controller if i use an 18v ryobi battery?
No, just plug in your 18v Ryobi and let er rip!
Would this work for a 24v clash and strength power 4x4 buggy? I wanted to convert it into a 48v.
How fast does 100% go and will this burn out motors quicker?
100% will burn up the motors and grind the plastic gears. I'd recommend 55% or less.
Does it work on a 2,4g slow start powerwheel too?
My daughters car also has a remote so i can control it for her, would this still work?
The controller board won't accept the higher voltage, it will get fried. You can search for a "24 volt" controller board for your model and you can run a 20v tool battery as a replacement.
What about using a DC 48V Step Down to 24V 30A 720W Voltage Reducer Converter. The issue I am having is the PWM only controls voltage when under load.
That should work, BUT the benefit of the PWM controller is to be able to control the max speed for your kid. So if they are learning you can turn down the speed by dropping the voltage, if they have practice you can turn it up to a higher voltage/speed. Voltage controls the speed of the motors, amperage isn't that big to worry about. The PWM controller I used in the video is listed in the video description, I can't remember the exact specs for it.
Did you burn out the motor?
I have a 40v 6amp ryobi battery for my mower I did the same set up as you in my dune racer if I turn it up over 30% you step on the gas and it goes a few feet then stops and the middle two lights on the battery blink do you know what’s the issue. Once they blink nothing works including the speed control till I pull out the battery and put it back in. I did install a 30amp fuse. Have any idea to be able to go to 50-60%?
I've noticed the Ryobi batteries have a built in surge limit, kinda like a temporary circuit breaker. If I ride on my kids power wheel (lots more weight than my kids) my battery cuts power for 30 seconds or something. The battery also cuts out if I'm edging my lawn and the blade gets stuck, seems to be a similar issue. How much weight is in the dune rider? Two kids or one kid? Does it do it with less weight?
@@Jasonoid 2kids. So if it’s got a built is surge protector I probably don’t need a fuse. I rode it fine on both slow and fast at 30% and I’m close to 260. Any bit over 30% it kills it’s self after a 3-6’. Now I know that’s only 30 sec
@@NAOSANT it might have bigger motors than my power wheel and draws more amps. Mine cuts out like yours at 60% on the dial... And the motors get hot real quick at that speed. 30% is still faster than stock speed right? It have should a ton of runtime with that huge 6ah battery too.... Only thing I can think of is maybe try using larger gauge wires?
@@Jasonoid use larger gage wires throughout the whole car?
@@NAOSANT maybe just to the motors, not sure if it would do much though. I just thought of another idea, maybe you can disconnect power from one motor and see if it still shuts off at 30%
What is the advantage of the pwm vs a perimeter?
Hi I like the video but could u show me how the motor wires go from the motor to the speed controller because I'm finding it hard to do it do they both go together then in to the speed controller or does the red wire of the motor go to one bit and the black go in to the other
The video shows the wiring. The battery wires go to the battery connection on the PWM controller, the motor connect to the motor connections on the PWM controller.
Gonna try it out for now. Still reads 40v coming out going to the motors. Hopefully this all works.
interesting, can you adjust the percentage at all? 40v will be super fast!
@@Jasonoid had it going for about an hour going up hill and down on a road. Doesn't seem to lower in voltage. 90° weather right now. No overheating. No way to adjust voltage though.
@@chadace8010 how fast is it going? Like over 10mph?
@@Jasonoid well i bought it used for 5$. No battery so needed something to work on it. Gears grinding ehen i had a normal 12v battery on it. Don't wanna mess it up more so will have to stay at 5 mph for like 3 hours of run time for now. When and i do get upgrades, if the wife allows, i will try to get the metal gears and rip it.
Soo.. no need to upgrade motors and gears???
So with you running at 20ish volts no problems one wouldn’t need a PCM if they wanted to run an 18v ryobi, just take the adapter for the battery straight into the existing wiring. Would that be correct?
Yeah, would work prefect. Only 1 speed though, the pwm allows for speed control
How do the batteries hold up with getting drained faster and lower then normal? Or do you even have to worry about draining the batteries to extremely low levels repeatedly with this set up?
I have multiple batteries so I rotate through them. This uses the same power as a weed Wacker so not more power draw than normal. The batteries have held up fine.
Is there a craftsman 20v adapter
40 volts won't damage the motors?
I run this at 45% to 55% on the PWM controller and it's still going strong. It's nice to be able to adjust the output for little kids (25%) and then turn it up with older kids (50% or so). No issues with the motors yet.
does it have to be 2.6AH
What kind of gearbox did you use. Because I know if you use a 24v gearbox overtime you can blow them up. If you use a higher voltage battery.
Everything is stock except the battery and pwm controller. Running at 55% or lower works fine, so a 24v battery would perform the same. No damage to my gearboxes yet and it's been going for over a year weekly.
Is stock voltage 12 or 6
12v in my model
How is it holding up? Looking to do this for a used f150 but have been reading about that higher voltage burning up motors and other electronics.
You'd be safe using these same components with a 18v tool battery. I used the Ryobi 40v because that's what I already had for my electric scooter project.
It's been holding up fine, I never go above 55%, nothing burning yet
@@Jasonoid sweet going to give it a try with the same Ryobi batteries, had a few laying around after a lawnmower quit working. Thanks for the video!
Anything over 18v on stock motors will pop them eventually.
Did you take out the restricting screw that makes it three speed well to speed and reverse
I am curious about this as well. Mine will not go in reverse now or the lower speed. What needs to be done at this point. Thanks in advanced.
Thanks for video! I'm halfway through a build on my kids dune racer. The dune racer has two rear Motors. Can I daisy chain those Motors against this device since it only has output for 1 motor?
If you connect the PWM controller to the motors, it will run both of them. Just make sure they are connected in parallel. I didn't need to make any changes to my wiring, I just connected it to the stock wires so you may want to do that.
@@Jasonoid BLUF: I need to go stock wires that used to go to 12v to device motor out - device - battery out to ryobi base. Appreciate the quick reply! I see now. I have 1 set of wires that used to go to the battery. I see now that those go to motor out and the device sits between that and my ryobi 40v. I modded two old chargers as my battery base and connected them in parallel for extended life should I need that 😜
Does this not burn out the motors and wires???
Depends on the size of your motors/power wheel. Running the pwm controller at 55% with a 40v battery seems to hold up well. Mines be going consistently for over a year. Anything above 55% causes excessive heat and damage so don't run it higher than that.
Using a 20v tool battery would be fine at 100%. I used the 40v battery because I had a bunch of them laying around. Make sure to unhook any accessories like radios or lights before the mod because they can't handle the higher voltage.
Is it one PWM Motor Speed Controller per motor?
Just one for the entire setup since the motors are wired together.
I have several dewalt 20v batteries that a larger amp hour, and several large ryobi 18v batteries, do you think either would make a good battery for this or should I use this as an excuse to get into the ryobi 40v line up lol
They will work great, just find an adapter that will work with your battery, no need to do 40v.
mine stopped letting me adjust the speed, it’s just 100% all the time?
Did you still use the stock controller too because I’m wondering how you got the gas pedal to work
Mine is an 'old school' power wheels, no remote control, no lights, no radio, no smart controller. Just a battery, forward or reverse switch, gas pedal and motors.
Fried my motors possibly. Attached the 40v to the adapter and turned it on. Instantly heard a loud pop and the lights flickered. Seems like I needed to step down the voltage. Is that controller what I'm missing?
Every powerwheels is a little different. My power wheels was super old fashioned and had no electronics inside (radio, lights, speakers) so there was nothing to fry. The newer models have electronics that aren't designed for voltages above 12v. To keep my motors from burning up I usually run my pwm controller at 50 - 55% power. That's a fast speed for my kids.
Nice work and tutorial. 👍
In my case, I am about to purchase the Peg Perego 12v John Deere tractor for my grandson.
It has the other electronic features....radio etc....
If I was only looking to increase the usage time, couldn't I just upgrade the 12v battery to an increased amps per hour rating?
Like from a 8 ah to like a 36 ah without the possibility of damaging anything?
Of course a longer run time would increase the heat on the motors.
Any thoughts on that?
Thanks.
Running a larger 12v lead acid battery would allow for much longer run times. If the tractor has space for a larger battery I would do that! No damage to the radio lights and other accessories.
@@Jasonoid , WOW....thanks for the fast reply!
Yes.....there's a RUclips video of someone running a large auto battery in the same toy tractor. Thanks again. 👍
@@PTucker0864 I’m not sure but I think the watt hours also need be looked into because I think if it’s a high wh battery then that might damage the electronics but I cannot be certain.
@@Alexander_l322 , the battery only controls the motors on that John Deere.
What I did was hook 2 batteries in series that would fit under the hood.
No complaints so far.
Well, how long did the motors last? Did you burn up any of the controls?
I run this at 45% to 55% on the PWM controller and it's still going strong. It's nice to be able to adjust the output for little kids (25%) and then turn it up with older kids (50% or so). No issues with the motors yet.
Did u upgrade the gearboxes?? I want to do my kids but let me know if u did please
Stock gearboxes, mine has twin motors so less stress on each motor/gearbox. If yours has one motor just mod it an 18volt battery or 24 volt battery max.
does this work with all types of these electric toy cars? No powerwheels here in the =eU
I'd recommend a 20v to 24v battery instead so it doesn't burn the motors