Shroud SLAMS EA & DICE Adds Anti Cheat to Battlefield 5
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
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00:00 BF5 Anti Cheat & Cheater Problems
04:11 Shroud Slams EA & DICE
05:21 My thoughts & why some people are mad at what Shroud said 
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Battlefield could be so much more if it wasn't EA pulling the strings.
I wouldn't be so sure actually. Cuz if that were true all of their games would be shit not just BF. DICE bears just as much if not MORE responsibility for all of this.
I agree
Both EA & dice are accountable cuz they very irresponsible for not listening to us
Well what you expect it's own by EA and there's nothing you can do about it.
Most of BF devs are gone, but yeah it would have been better
They did listen to you about the recoil scope bug, but then realised they made a mistake by listening to someone, then rebroke it 😂.
They most likely announced the anticheat beforehand because this is kernel-level AC, meaning it's embedded in Windows. And I believe from a regulatory perspective, you should announce that to the users to give them the choice to keep playing BFV or not. Can't install stuff on a kernel-level without telling people first.
Yea, total red flag for me. I love BFV but this is a big no for me
Good point
That and it will also break people who use Steam Deck or Linux to play.
Ah
I was litterally thinking "Why on earth would they now out of nowhere patch a anti-cheat in...............unlesss........"
I F ING KNEW IT, of course it is kernel level. Good to know so I can stay away from a almost dead game who all of the sudden needs "theoretical" full access to my system.
Should of added anti cheat to BF1
@2:47 holy shit, I played against that dude the other day in a Breakthrough lobby. The whole lobby reported him, crazy he isn't banned yet. DICE anti-cheat sucks.
8:38 nice robot voice
Enders real voice btw
Reptilian confirmed
Maybe a new censor technique? 😆
Wtf why did that happen?? Lol
Does the youtube algorithm now check and censor the audio as well? WTF
BFV is saved.
Did you ever heard of xim before? Hopefully all of them will vanished altho i doubt that:((
🤣funny, other Alex. Huzzah. BFV has been saved
Telling us like its NeWw CoNnTenT LoL
Chinese hackers can suck it now.
newsflash. pvz garden warfer another shooter from ea also had cheating as a problem. they introduced anti cheat there and guess what. it doesnt do shit. bf5 might unfortunately be the same if that was anything to go by.
5:37 flawless example on how ridiculously overpowered Falck is, the fact that you can heal yourself in a split second during combat is insane, there should be some form of cooldown that kicks in after you disengage combat before you can heal yourself. The gadgets and hero abilities in this game are so fucking inbalanced.
it is, i have 3.42 k/d with falck
all of the support class can heal in an instant..
not a new mechanic
@@malikddiaw No shit sherlock, but the stim isnt as fast nor do you have an infinite amount like you do with Falck.
@@malikddiawbut she doesnt need to choose between heal or ammo or mine or anything, and she can do it faster and more often
Ugh EA and millennials with their self and auto heals. Skilless cowards.
EA needs to start enabling their studios instead of trying to controll them
100%
And studios need to stand up for themselves.
I would say the more losses they take it will eventually change but EA typically just shuts down the studio
Imagine getting Shroud onboard... paying him for feedback, ideas or whatever, then totally ignoring him😂classic EA.
I think the issue is that all AAA games are made of several departments in one dev studio, each one responsible for their given roles, and each one giving orders to their underclass department. So maybe specifically in this case we had the end-developer guys (the core devs who actually program the game) and their department who actually makes those community programs and really want to listen and implement new ideas, fixes etc, but there's always the upper department who delays, edit, or straight up negate abd cancel the ideas of the other departments because of various business reasons like, not enough time, resources or they just think it's not profitable in the long short/long run.
It is very smart to announce, the police always announces a raid a few days prior...
I guess the issue now should be, if the next game is in development, why are they making the same mistake by not getting the community actively unvolved? Even having a development blog explaining their direction so we can flag any issues early on. Do multiple alphas & betas so the game gets heavily tested instead just the one demo a month out from launch, where nothing changes.
announcing anti cheat support to an already dead game before it is implemented is crazy. Great video as always Enders!
It's not dead, it has more players than 2042
Indeed bf5 has more active players.
Think EA is aware that 2042 is trash and nobody play it, compared to BFV
@@Second-DK both trash lol
How many players does a game have to have so people don't think it's "dead"? 100,000? BFV has more players than 2042. And that's just on steam. Even on Xbox here in Europe BFV has many full servers
Community servers are pretty safe from cheaters. Official servers are riddled with spam texts and hackers from bots tho
They badmins also ban good players.
@@griffin1366 People will still at least have the option to leave the server and join one with better admins.
@@griffin1366not every community
@@griffin1366Far better than playing against a cheater
@@griffin1366 there's is bf4 servers running for like 8 years with fair admins eg: tbg clan in NA
fix the mouse input.
And controler input:))
& hit reg
Just fix the whole game already
@@Haru_Shirasaki exactly haha
They should overall fix themselfes before changing anything tbh xd
DICE and EA should absolutely be listening more to streamers and the community in general (and showing that they're listening). There is a balance though; it is often said that end-users are great at identifying problems and horrible at proposing fixes for them. And for every person who understands a game and it's design and gives well thought-out critique, there is one who will send you death threats for nerfing a weapon that was clearly overpowered (it was their crutch).
EA anti-cheat doesn't work. I encounter 1-2 cheaters in every lobby for 2042. This won't help BF5. BF1 & BF4 is "safer" with its rental servers. People moderate their lobbies and kick/ban the cheaters.
8:37 Enders confirmed robot.
its kinda funny to me how that clip of shroud went big when half the video where it came from he was kinda glazing on how the same is in "a good state" right now when the mouse input is still not working properly, they re-introduced the recoil bug, added visual recoil that no one asked for. on top of that in the video he says "battlefield 4 was trash" which is insane to me
bf4 is not great imo bfv is miles better. 2042 is dogshit though
I believe they are collecting telemetry on cheaters with BFV.
Oh, interesting, that could make sense for the next Battlefield. Assuming they actually want it to not release like poop emoji.
Real question: What does “collecting telemetry” actually mean?
I have a feeling I know but really don’t
@@alexdasliebe5391 Collecting data / logs.
What do you mean? Care to explain?
Same thing with the introduction of this new visual recoil. This is not a huge mystery why it comes now, it's testing stuff for the next game.
@@deshn21 More data collected to build and anti-cheat.
Since they put Anticheat, the game doesn't open, loads the first screen and then bounces back to the laucner. Does this happen to anyone else?
I believe Mande (Apex Content Creator) spoke about this as well, where he and a bunch of Apex creators were invited to give feedback on how to improve the game and everything they said was ignored.
The only interesting thing I’ve seen on the battlefield page was that they’re doing a bad company 2 Deja Vu. Does anyone have any insight into this?
One of the really big questions I would like to know is who the target market was for 2042? Who were they really making this game for?
It’s funny to me that they say the game is a love letter and then don’t listen to any feedback
people who make games are not players the same way we are, especially in massive studios like EA, and when a prestigious editor or head of project sees what a bunch of young youtubers say they should do they get their back up about it.
11:15 the 360 throwing knife tho 😮💨😮💨😮💨
i wonder if this has sometthing to do with bv5 maybe being the main baseline and foundation of the next game. gameplay wise. This is a crazy reach
lol great point about EA announcing the anti cheat for BF5, giving the cheaters a heads up
@Enders, you're completely correct regarding DICE needing to only tell the community about the new anti-cheat AFTER they implement it. It's good to see it happen, but you have to wonder why in the world they'd tell the "enemy" that they're about to be "attacked".
Another great video!
When you got sponsorship from EA: *takes EA's money and say less negative.
When EA doesn't sponsor: *EA down bad
Anti-cheat announced for BF5?
Can't be true...
They should sponsor you for the next bf why well yeah you trash them at times but look u keep playing it over and over do ya have to no and to me that a true loyal bf player and dice should support even if its criticism most of the time and its valid 99% of the time tbh
You have to tell people when you make big changes to software they install on their home PC. But what they are clearing missing is any sort of pipeline for effecting bans across the board. AC is worthless with no penalties. It's very possible that the AC is detecting cheats, but the players are not getting banned anyway.
I used to mainly stream Battlefield and even 2042, but the viewership was so poor I never even got affiliate 🤷🏽♂️
people on cheating forums were saying ea anti cheat was easier to cheat on then easy anti cheat.... valorant has kernel, but that runs on startup, and closing it, you cannot launch the game, without rebooting and having it on.
Gotta say as a console player. I have cross play on. (I don’t see a crazy skill difference) but cheating wise I see a ton of Xbox players cheating. Literally the other day in 2042 dude on Xbox had god mode on and speed shit. Was just going Mach 30 around the map knifing people. Craziest cheat I’ve seen in the past few years on BF.
Dice should add more content to battlefield 1
now imagine if they released the soviet files that are already in the game
Oh, is there Soviet Ww2 content in BFV ? I didn’t know that!
Like on-disk DLC, it isn’t in the game, but there?
I enjoyed the co-op PvE missions in BFV, no lie
@@alexdasliebe5391 it is hidden in the game files, voice lines, weapons, and new vehicles
I think the problem is is that people know about these recurring issues in these recent BF titles and will still continue to buy the games anyway. If we all just stopped buying their garbage and boycotted to an extent, maybe, just maybe they'd start listening.
I tried so hard and got so far but 9:08
Fr tho like dice and EA just don’t listen and keep making the same mistakes.
How can you check the stats of a player? What website is that?
Battlefield tracker
They never whitelisted Afterburner on the EA anticheat despite the popular demand.
I just got BFV on steam sale and then I find this out?...noice👌
subbed to you bro keep up the great work have a blessed 2024
Never had any idea that they paid a bunch of people for their feedback, and then just didn't listen to it. Makes no sense.
Shroud also said in this video that Specialists are no big deal, 2042 kinda slaps now, and that BF4 was massively overrated.
so i’m extremely high rn, and watching this video is the most intriguing video i’ve ever watched the way im so locked into this video is crazy considering i started playing BF20420 3 days ago but i was an ex bf player from bf 3 days when i was like 8 years old, i love watching information vids while im on cloud 9
I think the people who are upset with Shroud over his statement that devs should listen to streamers understand that many streamers, not all, but a significant portion don't have the community's interest at heart. Like you said they are there for the bag and they want games that will bring the biggest bag so they will advocate for ideas that aren't healthy for games and the average player to facilitate said bag delivery. I think streamers have a responsibility to advocate for the the community and the health of the games they build their communities on. I believe Enders accomplishes that to a high level especially for the BF community. It's sad that many streamers just view their followers as a cash cow to be exploited.
I doubt it will work especially with the big disaster, Apex being injected with an aim hack during a big tournament.
It's been more popular than 2042 (player count wise) for MONTHS so let's call a win, a win here.
EA or Activision all want to make more money. They probably aren't going to make the margins they want with the existing fan base. They have to reach a wider audience. They get veteran players and others like Shroud, just to pacify them and others that they're still listening. Listening is probably what they are doing, translating what they're hearing into changes isn't what they're going to do.
Imagine that EA not listening to thier playerbase. Pretty easy to think of it
It’s a weird move. Yet they don’t give Battlefront 2 anti-cheat.
I can't possibly comprehend the information you're sharing with me. Is it possible that I'm in a dream? I'm stunned by the actions of Dice and EA. Have they completely lost their sanity?
I have a dev from dice in my friends list and i constantly fed him legit cheaters to ban in 2042. I must say that i helped to ban at least 10-15 cheaters out of which i have some also streamed on my channel, it's insane how many they are. Like mushrooms after rain.
sounds like a fare stretch saying BF players are more toxic than COD players
You’d be surprised lol
and now i cant play bfv on linux as proton doesnt support kernel level anticheat, i want my refund as i bought this game in late 2018 like wtf
i hope embark do a bigger team shooter. im loving how they listen to the community and do good stuff compared the Dice these days.
I lost FPS on BFV since anticheat…. Around 20 sometimes even more Somebody the same ?
I think the situation why they used top players who do not cheat who play consistently , and stream is for one reason for these top players not to play the game .
They are getting information on players as positive as they have been , the game they wanted is to make a certain amount of money .
Servers are not cheap .
They want players to play and eventually leave the game at a certain point not to play so they do not pay for the servers .
They are not going to make money on , they wait 2 years before the games are fixed .
I always wait until the many bugs are fixed before i play ,i keep my money in my pocket .
I do not get to excited and throw cash at it .
😂 I had that StreetNinjaNY guy in some of my games today, and he was calling out his teammates for cheating as well. It seems that he thinks he is the official EA Battlefield Police 🚓🚨, revealing all the cheaters, filing reports, enforcing the peace. Had me wondering if he actually plays the game or if he just watches the scoreboard.
That spin throwing knife was filthy
So basically if we want to fix the game just make Enders CEO, problem solved
The fact Zampella is leading the next BF game gives me hope, not a pre-order, just hope.
I respect Respawn’s work, I think Zampella knows how to push back against the asinine execs like Andrew Wilson.
Esports focus makes bad games (see:Halo 5)
We need world class FPS gamers to team up, find funding and create the world's best online shooter!
@@alexdasliebe5391 there is already another bf on the horizon ? for the love of god take a longer break and come back with a good product we are gonna end up with cod release schedule and cod quality
It isnt applied yet, right?
The moment any gaming company or game developer/publisher wants input from any streamer, that company and game will be pure unplayable garbage.
Genau das ist eben falsch , Content creator haben so gut wie kein plan davon was die alt Community möchte... Danke den Content. Creator Leuten haben wir erst das Problem mit Battlefield.
Wer hat Ahnung von Battlefield?
Die core Community also sollte man diese auch testen und bewerteten und Rückmeldung geben lassen !
How do cheaters follow streamers to another server?.
Probably some bot and algorithm tracking bs
Hitting the like button bcs you streamed Battlefield for 5 years; love Battlefield too man. Been with this franchise ever since I was 12y old
The tangent bro, aint nothing wrong with being passionate about your favorite game :) i think bf is a good game, i dont think bf2042 is very good but i haven't played since it came out and it honestly just looks like call of duty, thats the thing i liked more about bf games was it didnt feel like cod.
Season 7 finally made me take a break. I tried out farming simulator, it's alot simpler and works
I'm headed there too
Been playing bfV daily and the anti cheat coming back is massive W. I think dice realized there is a huge player base still playing bfV
May I tell you that many Externel cheats bypass EAC so easily, so they render ESP and Aimbot Aim assist without n issue. It just takes 2 changes in ur bios to run the cheat without worrying getting banned. I can talk for a sure fact
11:14 bro got disrespected
I genuinely expected no better. The EA that worked with the community, and made an entire community driven map, is dead. This current DICE is a parasite feeding off the name and IP we love and is leaving a dry dying corpse.
The thing is Ender, in Thailand they paid the most famous streamer of all time name "HeartRocker" which is not Battlefield streamer at all, At the peak of stream was around 100,000 people watched the Brokenfield 2042 which is so bad that all people that pre-order the game just did the refund.
l agree they shouldn't say anything about when the Anti cheat come out
Hot take: i dont think the anti cheat will work because if they allowed a cheater in apex that took control of people's computers in a tournament then you know Ea's anti cheats in their franchises are fucked
I hope Battlefield 1 gets some more attention with a more modern anti cheat.
I’m convinced that DICE is still bitter from the BF4 movement community. Then just ignore the criticism assuming it’s the same people.
valid points Enders, best!
Great video and feedback. Added your channel
I think there's a group that is upset that they went to Shroud for input vice some of the more popular streamers within the core community, such as yourself or someone like Flakfire. Personally, Shroud is a good source as you said, because he is a mechanical phenom and can instant detect terrible mechanics.
My question: who were those content creators and what were their suggestions? I mean, is Shroud a BF player? Not really. No other well-known BF creators were asked, as I heard. So, I think they asked specifically STREAMERS and maybe they decided, their input was not a great fit for BF. Just maybe.
Stick a fork in this franchise, it's done.
how many hours shroud played battlefield?
Well the new BFV anti cheat did nothing lol... Just played for about 3 hours and there were chinese aim bot trolls in every server 😔
Exactly why I stopped streaming 2042! EA DONT CARE IS CORRECT!
Oh look he is experiencing what it's like to have a real job.
Content creation is harder than most jobs to be honest
@@EndersFPS ROFL!
@@EndersFPS nice joke.
Australian servers are full of hackers It's so bad.
On 2042? There's been a few lately, there are a lot of good players though that play every day. There is only 1 AU server on BFV PC which is a cringe hardcore community server.
@@Nitroh- Hardcore servers are the worst. They can go to he||
Would you say the average people in the community of Battlefield is toxic?
no
There community servers, where there are active admins and pretty good anti cheat systems, even if anti cheat system doesnt detect cheater fast enough, i was always able to deal with them by contacting to admins in discord server, i banned already 15 blatant aimbot/wallhackers. One thing that i dont like about community servers is that u can get kicked from most of them bcs there are limitations like max 2kd and 2kpm by statistics, but there are still 3/4 server that i can play without hackers and there arent limitations there which is good. I dont think EA's anticheat system will be better than a human admin in community server so i will rather stay on them. Sorry for my english skills, im not native english speaker.
Shroud is definitely hella arrogant. But he’s got a great point with how his viewers echo the stuff we hate. He hears many perspectives from players and what they want/don’t want in BF.
He said it like a dickhead but he’s not wrong
Enders knows dam well that any anti cheat they implement wont make a difference. Cheaters are so far ahead of the game right now they are doing interviews with content creators and telling them how the sauce is made. Thats how confident these little turds are. But trust me, Enders knows. If he doesnt know, you need to find a better content creator.
Im a simple man, I see Enders on my Feed i click like.
I disagree on only listening to streamers. If you are catering to the top percentiles of your player base, they are absolutely not going to give an unbiased opinion.
You need feedback from varied skill groups.
3:30
Yes but... the game is like 5-10€? if they get banned they just buy another copy and hack again, thats the problem with old games like BFV :(
It won't be €5-10 forever. This is just a temporary Sale going on. And even if the price is permanently reduced to that level it would still act as some form of deterrent to cheating compared to what we have right now where nothing is done to ban cheaters.
Dice yet again with an absolute doosy.......... what more can you expect nowadays
Battlefield 5 is pretty lit now