The begg knives version is still made in China. Having seen them both side by side the differences are plenty obvious. I’d call it “inspired by” not “ripped off copy of”. No controversy at all in my opinion. There’s only so many ways to make a knife really and for a lot of people they’d buy a name just like Jeep and Harley people do. They’ll buy a $30 belt for $180 that’s still made in China because it’s got a Harley stamp pressed into it.
It's been a good one. I tested the rockwell on this one...I think the video will post later this afternoon. I was getting results of 59-60 hrc. I'd say they did a pretty good job.
I like the harbor freight Gordon EDC knife that was only 10 dollars with 8cr13mov steel and good flipper action and solid construction. Great for a beater.
I bought one when the local store opened up this year. I made it my EDC about a month ago and I like it. The way the G10 and carbon fiber create texture and the good steel is worth the $40. I’ve bought a few more just to put back.Mine says it’s a IK24
For the people who will buy this knife it's a tough, relatively inexpensive knife. While you're picking up stuff at HF you can also pick up a decent work knife for the jobsite
I like your logic and I don't give a crap about the controversy either. I just bought my second one today because I like it so much. I would have bought it sooner but they have been sold out for the last 3 months.
I saw this video last night, picked up the last ik23 at the local harbor freight today, first impression is it definitely feels like a high quality knife compared to the cheap gas station, walmart, dollar store etc folders most people have experience with. Out of the box it has a really nice edge flips super smooth, and it feels like its using a magnet to keep the blade retained when closed?
First off, great review, I purchased one of the Icon knives about a month ago and have been very satisfied with it, I had one problem, after a week or so, I broke the pocket clip off, shoving it into my pocket. I had it for two wks and took it back with recept and had no problem getting a replacement. If it still has a good return poliçy in 10 yrs, who knows ??? But for the price, its gonna make an excellent daily carry.
I just ordered the buck 841. Made in u.s.a.. i may go pick one of these up.. they also have a gordon multitool that looks pretty neatif you are into those
To be honest. I was able to snag the new Icon knife for about 23$ and some change after some of the sales harbor freight was running for ITC members and of course some coupons as well. And I can not name a better knife for 23 or even 40 bucks really. Plus all icon tools have life time warranties on them and that’s where your value really goes to. Is that you won’t ever have to buy another one. Just bring it it and they’ll swap it out for you. Can’t beat that deal lol
Yeah it punches waaay above its weight class. Excellent value. I would like to see if they're capable of an original design. It's not too hard. If I can design one so can someone at icon 😎👊💪
In a perfect world, the designer needs to get paid. Period. This, however is a world where "Foakleys" have been legal to sell since well before I got my pair as a kid.
All this knife did was brought tons of attention to todd and Beggs knives. Overall it's a good thing for them one way or the other just for the attention... people that never heard of Todd Beggs now knows him because of this knife.... hell non knife people now know him because of it.
Its a good knife. Everyone talking down but dont even know if HF is sourcing these from Begg or not. Their in line wire strippers everyone was crying about those but they sourced them from southwire and are USA made. Snap on sourced the same inline wire strippers. Snap on's neck like is made in vhina from ezred. All vompanies source from others
@@BIGSTANK1983 well that warranty is only as good as its stock and production. You'll likely just get a refund if they can't exchange it. Lots of great 40 dollar knives with a replacement warranty that have been in production for decades. Like...the Ontario Rat and several kershaw models. Not taking anything from the warranty, but I tried to replace a wrench and unfortunately...that "exact" wrench isn't produced anymore so that warranty is void. As long as it's in production and in stock , you're coveted though. 😎✌️
I own both the Begg Mini Glimpse and the Icon knife, and honestly, I think the icon is the better knife at less than half the price. Better (smoother) action, better ergo, better materials (carbon fiber inlay).
@@redneck4528 okay thanks. that's the only model number I seen...and 2024 wasn't here yet at the time of recording the video. That's what I get for assuming 🙄 🤣
The guy at Project Farm reviewed a bunch of folding knives, using some pretty scientific methods. If you’re looking for a good cheaper knife, the S&Wesson Extreme Ops knife was a pretty solid knife, and it sells for $12 dollars. I bought one and have been happy with it. Is it as good as the $300 knives out there? No, but for $12….
@@smithright I've heard stories where that wasn't exactly helpful for this particular knife since it's rarely on the shelf , but I agree...if they have it in the store they can replace it and all should be well.
I gotta head over to my local HF and check out this knife bro 😎Just so I can see if I want a Begg clone or not 😆Looks like it does knife things pretty well. $40 vs $500 to cut cardboard 🤔but you look waaaay cooler cutting it with your Hinderer or Strider 🤣👍
Not a big fan of D2, haven't had much luck with it . Seems ok though. As far as a copy who cares like someone said as long as its not counterfeit meaning shows name and trademarks of the " real" knife. Work it! But with being said for that $ 40 - $50 price range I'll stick with my CRKT. Thanks for the comparison. Keep up the good work!!
I love the fact that if you damage it just walk into harbor freight and get a new one because the lifetime no questions asked warranty that's what a work tool is supposed to be, would anybody dare use a 2 or $300 knife everyday at work abusing it not unless they're crazy work is abuse how many expensive knives can you warranty with abuse just by walking into the store and grabbing a new one free no shipping no handling fees I snaped the blade on my Swiss army knife I just had to send them a $5 check for shipping, fixed and sent back but I still had to mail it off and was without it for about 2 weeks put fix perfectly
I wear glasses, sir. I do NOT enjoy walking in the rain. I did my video on that thing, I think the controversy around it is overblown. One well placed NDA and we don't get answers.
Oh there ain't much that beats a rat 1 in my opinion. I'd buy a rat all day before this one. It's built just as well and it holds an edge just as well as the d2 rat. Rat 1 is a larger knife of course, so it'll just come down to personal preference. Both are great options.
@@reginaldwigglebottom4731 of course there are. There's a ton of custom knives in d2 as well for over 2 grand. It's one of those steels. Very few steels seem to pull that off... nitro v and aeb-l...02 maybe...then again where are the 40 dollar o2 knives? Maybe d2 is thr only steel that pulls off the range.
I think maybe Begg Knives and Icon Tools are getting more exposure with this controversy to make everyone happy. I don't go to Harbor Freight for knives, so I never would have taken a second look. I watched Cutlerylover made a good point on his video. Most everything sold at Harbor Freight is a copy, so why should we worry if they aren't trying to pass it off as a more expensive brand and charging accordingly.
Yeah I was talking to somebody the other day about that. Channel Lock is a brand, Vice Grips was a brand, Phillips was a brand, Allen was a brand. All these tool companies are copying original designs. I understand the patent is out by several decades but...when case released the Hammerhead ...the Buck 110 was barely a decade old. It's all relative. I feel like if there is any major discrepancy, it'll be worked out and should be pretty open / close.
I hold no stock in the this design copies this design. As long as it doesn’t try to fool someone with brand logo and all of that. Fact is every knife is a copy of thousands of years of copies. Good knives are all shaped the same way if you want it to actually cut well. Back in the day I had to spend tons of money for a decent guitar. Now I have squires that play better than my American guitars, Japanese guitars, you name it. Most of the knives I like I know weren’t worth the money at all and could have gotten something way cheaper and done the same thing lol but oh well, we want what we want. Don’t need to spend tons of money though nowadays to get something decent. Not everyone is willing to spend tons of money on a knife or have the means to. Or willing to spend the money for one regardless. Most American knives went way past the returns you get for spending the money for one. If knife guys are bitching about prices of knives, and they are the only ones willing to pay the absurd prices, then you know you have a big problem lol. I fall into the last camp. Have the money but refuse to pay the prices for what you get. I’ll wear out a $20 knife just as fast as a few hundred dollar knife. They are consumable products if you use them. Most of the time I can’t tell any difference in steels. Use them hard enough they all dull. Question is do you want to spend more time sharpening or not.
Is anybody going to buy a $300 knife to abuse and ruin by using it for what it's not supposed to be used for in a pinch No. This is an awesome tool that is also a wonderful knife. People who use a tool for work do not want something that's a throwaway tool how many people weld a socket to a bolt and then have the socket warrantied just about everybody that's abuse that was not intended by the tool manufacturer but they still replace it that's what harbor freight is no questions asked
Thanks for watching. Ive had nothing but outstanding service from mine. Overpriced is a perception so I'll leave you with your own. I think...it's a bargain. But I know what it's like to drop serious money on a pocket full of disappointment. Have a great weekend.
Dude… right now a walk in the rain is easy! Been raining for 3 days. My opinion of the knife is simple! If it’s a pretty good steel, sharp, holds an edge , feels good and looks cool, it’s a winner! It can be yellow with Dollar General on the blade!😂 A good knife is a good knife!
The begg knives version is still made in China. Having seen them both side by side the differences are plenty obvious. I’d call it “inspired by” not “ripped off copy of”. No controversy at all in my opinion. There’s only so many ways to make a knife really and for a lot of people they’d buy a name just like Jeep and Harley people do. They’ll buy a $30 belt for $180 that’s still made in China because it’s got a Harley stamp pressed into it.
Todd is a 😭 🍼
I bought this knife. I think it’s a great buy for the price. I’d certainly recommend this knife. Cheers!
It's been a good one. I tested the rockwell on this one...I think the video will post later this afternoon. I was getting results of 59-60 hrc. I'd say they did a pretty good job.
I like the harbor freight Gordon EDC knife that was only 10 dollars with 8cr13mov steel and good flipper action and solid construction. Great for a beater.
I bought one when the local store opened up this year. I made it my EDC about a month ago and I like it. The way the G10 and carbon fiber create texture and the good steel is worth the $40. I’ve bought a few more just to put back.Mine says it’s a IK24
For the people who will buy this knife it's a tough, relatively inexpensive knife. While you're picking up stuff at HF you can also pick up a decent work knife for the jobsite
Great point Scott!
I like your logic and I don't give a crap about the controversy either. I just bought my second one today because I like it so much. I would have bought it sooner but they have been sold out for the last 3 months.
I bought this knife and it is awesome, I don’t care what anybody thinks or says they don’t pay my bills…
dig the passion for the hobby. keep it up.
Sounds like a plan!
For that price i wouldn't even flinch at prying or using it as a screwdriver
Right!?
The best part is if you break it, you can get a replacement from any HF that has it in stock.
I saw this video last night, picked up the last ik23 at the local harbor freight today, first impression is it definitely feels like a high quality knife compared to the cheap gas station, walmart, dollar store etc folders most people have experience with. Out of the box it has a really nice edge flips super smooth, and it feels like its using a magnet to keep the blade retained when closed?
That's a ceramic detent ! Welcome to the rabbit hole my friend and I'm glad you found the channel.
First off, great review, I purchased one of the Icon knives about a month ago and have been very satisfied with it, I had one problem, after a week or so, I broke the pocket clip off, shoving it into my pocket. I had it for two wks and took it back with recept and had no problem getting a replacement. If it still has a good return poliçy in 10 yrs, who knows ??? But for the price, its gonna make an excellent daily carry.
The hrc tested around 60 as well. Just incase you're into thst kind of thing. Thanks for the updates and for watching
I just ordered the buck 841. Made in u.s.a.. i may go pick one of these up.. they also have a gordon multitool that looks pretty neatif you are into those
That multitool is a leatherman charge clone lol. I may get one too
To be honest. I was able to snag the new Icon knife for about 23$ and some change after some of the sales harbor freight was running for ITC members and of course some coupons as well. And I can not name a better knife for 23 or even 40 bucks really. Plus all icon tools have life time warranties on them and that’s where your value really goes to. Is that you won’t ever have to buy another one. Just bring it it and they’ll swap it out for you. Can’t beat that deal lol
Yeah it punches waaay above its weight class. Excellent value. I would like to see if they're capable of an original design. It's not too hard. If I can design one so can someone at icon 😎👊💪
In a perfect world, the designer needs to get paid. Period. This, however is a world where "Foakleys" have been legal to sell since well before I got my pair as a kid.
Very much agree !
I would love to be able to get a matching, completely blacked out 110 & 112! The HF one just isn't to my taste.
That would be cool. Yeah the hf thing isn't my typical taste either.
All this knife did was brought tons of attention to todd and Beggs knives. Overall it's a good thing for them one way or the other just for the attention... people that never heard of Todd Beggs now knows him because of this knife.... hell non knife people now know him because of it.
Absolutely true 🤣
Just got one, I like it.
Don't understand all of the fuss though?🙄
Just a decent knife at a good price. Anytime there's controversy we're gonna have hype and drama
Its a good knife. Everyone talking down but dont even know if HF is sourcing these from Begg or not. Their in line wire strippers everyone was crying about those but they sourced them from southwire and are USA made. Snap on sourced the same inline wire strippers. Snap on's neck like is made in vhina from ezred. All vompanies source from others
Took me forever to find it in stock and i love it. Works great for me and ive not had to sharpen it yet. I love it. Best 40 bucks ive spent.
It's a pretty decent knife for the money 😎
@@apex_alchemy_knives Right.... I mean are there any other 40 dollar knives also have a lifetime warranty? None I can think of.
@@BIGSTANK1983 well that warranty is only as good as its stock and production. You'll likely just get a refund if they can't exchange it. Lots of great 40 dollar knives with a replacement warranty that have been in production for decades. Like...the Ontario Rat and several kershaw models.
Not taking anything from the warranty, but I tried to replace a wrench and unfortunately...that "exact" wrench isn't produced anymore so that warranty is void. As long as it's in production and in stock , you're coveted though. 😎✌️
I own both the Begg Mini Glimpse and the Icon knife, and honestly, I think the icon is the better knife at less than half the price. Better (smoother) action, better ergo, better materials (carbon fiber inlay).
@@thedirtroadlesstraveled703 half inch longer too. Tgat doesn't seem like much but it makes a difference in my hands.
Ik23 was just the year of production mine says ik24
@@redneck4528 okay thanks. that's the only model number I seen...and 2024 wasn't here yet at the time of recording the video. That's what I get for assuming 🙄 🤣
J. R. Ewing of knives. Keep showing regardless 👍🏻
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The guy at Project Farm reviewed a bunch of folding knives, using some pretty scientific methods. If you’re looking for a good cheaper knife, the S&Wesson Extreme Ops knife was a pretty solid knife, and it sells for $12 dollars.
I bought one and have been happy with it.
Is it as good as the $300 knives out there? No, but for $12….
Great info! I'll check it out! Thanks
I think it is nice for the price. Hope it's not a rip off. Cool review Billy.
I hope not too. I hope the ik24 is a little less controversial but with the same quality.
The best thing about it... is the HF lifetime warranty - invaluable for the convenience. Walk in and replace it any day, no questions asked.
@@smithright I've heard stories where that wasn't exactly helpful for this particular knife since it's rarely on the shelf , but I agree...if they have it in the store they can replace it and all should be well.
Icon says its is a copy of the (Mac Tools AM36SERE-SE) which is the rebranded Al Mar S.E.R.E folding knife $40.
No resemblance at all the SERE imo.
New sub for a open mind in a world of closed mindedness! A needed commodity!
Awesome , welcome 😎
Not a big fan of the style but looks like a good knife, good showing dude
I gotta head over to my local HF and check out this knife bro 😎Just so I can see if I want a Begg clone or not 😆Looks like it does knife things pretty well. $40 vs $500 to cut cardboard 🤔but you look waaaay cooler cutting it with your Hinderer or Strider 🤣👍
That's what it's about
Not a big fan of D2, haven't had much luck with it . Seems ok though. As far as a copy who cares like someone said as long as its not counterfeit meaning shows name and trademarks of the " real" knife. Work it! But with being said for that $ 40 - $50 price range I'll stick with my CRKT. Thanks for the comparison. Keep up the good work!!
i kind of like that thing...take care
It's definitely a pokey pokey design
It is that
"I don't want to make any altercations to it," instead of alterations.....lmao. That moment when Forrest Gump does a knife review.
🤣🤣🤣 is that what I said? I'm a nut case , forgive me.
The like/dislike ratio is on this is ridiculous. Good video, very much appreciated
Still going strong, mine is well built.
I love the fact that if you damage it just walk into harbor freight and get a new one because the lifetime no questions asked warranty that's what a work tool is supposed to be, would anybody dare use a 2 or $300 knife everyday at work abusing it not unless they're crazy work is abuse how many expensive knives can you warranty with abuse just by walking into the store and grabbing a new one free no shipping no handling fees I snaped the blade on my Swiss army knife I just had to send them a $5 check for shipping, fixed and sent back but I still had to mail it off and was without it for about 2 weeks put fix perfectly
Great points.
I wear glasses, sir. I do NOT enjoy walking in the rain. I did my video on that thing, I think the controversy around it is overblown. One well placed NDA and we don't get answers.
Very true! I do too...I hate walking in the rain...it takes me days to get my glasses back right after I dry them off on my tshirt 😆😆🤘
I keep bigass golf umbrellas in my vehicles at all times. I ain't playing with it.
how would you rate it up against the rat 1 folder thats about the same price ?
Oh there ain't much that beats a rat 1 in my opinion. I'd buy a rat all day before this one. It's built just as well and it holds an edge just as well as the d2 rat. Rat 1 is a larger knife of course, so it'll just come down to personal preference. Both are great options.
@@apex_alchemy_knives thanks for your opinion :)
Man there’s a lot of d2 blades out there for 40$ and less
@@reginaldwigglebottom4731 of course there are. There's a ton of custom knives in d2 as well for over 2 grand. It's one of those steels. Very few steels seem to pull that off... nitro v and aeb-l...02 maybe...then again where are the 40 dollar o2 knives? Maybe d2 is thr only steel that pulls off the range.
This Icon IK knife is the Snap - on, of Harbor Freight.....
Yep, pretty much. 😎🤘
I think maybe Begg Knives and Icon Tools are getting more exposure with this controversy to make everyone happy. I don't go to Harbor Freight for knives, so I never would have taken a second look. I watched Cutlerylover made a good point on his video. Most everything sold at Harbor Freight is a copy, so why should we worry if they aren't trying to pass it off as a more expensive brand and charging accordingly.
Yeah I was talking to somebody the other day about that. Channel Lock is a brand, Vice Grips was a brand, Phillips was a brand, Allen was a brand. All these tool companies are copying original designs. I understand the patent is out by several decades but...when case released the Hammerhead ...the Buck 110 was barely a decade old. It's all relative. I feel like if there is any major discrepancy, it'll be worked out and should be pretty open / close.
I hold no stock in the this design copies this design. As long as it doesn’t try to fool someone with brand logo and all of that. Fact is every knife is a copy of thousands of years of copies. Good knives are all shaped the same way if you want it to actually cut well. Back in the day I had to spend tons of money for a decent guitar. Now I have squires that play better than my American guitars, Japanese guitars, you name it. Most of the knives I like I know weren’t worth the money at all and could have gotten something way cheaper and done the same thing lol but oh well, we want what we want. Don’t need to spend tons of money though nowadays to get something decent. Not everyone is willing to spend tons of money on a knife or have the means to. Or willing to spend the money for one regardless. Most American knives went way past the returns you get for spending the money for one. If knife guys are bitching about prices of knives, and they are the only ones willing to pay the absurd prices, then you know you have a big problem lol. I fall into the last camp. Have the money but refuse to pay the prices for what you get. I’ll wear out a $20 knife just as fast as a few hundred dollar knife. They are consumable products if you use them. Most of the time I can’t tell any difference in steels. Use them hard enough they all dull. Question is do you want to spend more time sharpening or not.
Is anybody going to buy a $300 knife to abuse and ruin by using it for what it's not supposed to be used for in a pinch No. This is an awesome tool that is also a wonderful knife. People who use a tool for work do not want something that's a throwaway tool how many people weld a socket to a bolt and then have the socket warrantied just about everybody that's abuse that was not intended by the tool manufacturer but they still replace it that's what harbor freight is no questions asked
Well , a whole week is Committed !
Wound up carrying it for the month. Still carrying it actually. Aint went dull yet believe it or not.
This knife is creating a lot of controversy.
Mikey likes it !
to each there own
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It came from a store that literally copies everything! Nobody goes to harbor freight thinking they're buying an original anything.
I just bought a workbench today that said compares to : lol ...a work bench lol
Random
Interesting, but not for me.
Understand that 😎💯🤘
At 40$ it's overpriced for d2 , given petrified and stitivian. Begg is waaay overpriced.
Thanks for watching. Ive had nothing but outstanding service from mine. Overpriced is a perception so I'll leave you with your own. I think...it's a bargain. But I know what it's like to drop serious money on a pocket full of disappointment. Have a great weekend.
I dont give a shit that you dont give a shit.
Welcome to the party 😎
Dude… right now a walk in the rain is easy! Been raining for 3 days.
My opinion of the knife is simple!
If it’s a pretty good steel, sharp, holds an edge , feels good and looks cool, it’s a winner!
It can be yellow with Dollar General on the blade!😂
A good knife is a good knife!
Pretty good point of view
@@apex_alchemy_knives 👍😁👊
Stay calm I’m gonna say a wierdy durd!!!!
If folks don’t like it that’s them. If you like it…. F it!😂
😅🤣 one way to look at it for sure
@@apex_alchemy_knives 👍👊😁