Thank you :) Took a quick look at some music on your page. Very much in the dynasty of Mahler and Bruckner, but your emulation is masterful! Subbed as I'm curious to see how your language evolves :)
This was the ultimate goal, thank you! I'm glad to know that you (and apparently so many others) were able to appreciate it on that level and find new insights in familiar places.
These are wonderful. I just love how we're listening along, and then suddenly realise we've been hearing Sibelius or Mahler for some time, without being conscious we've switched from Beethoven. It's seamless and effortless. Beautifully done. Congratulations.
I remember orchestrating part of sonata 24 as part of an orchestration challenge, so that part was familiar to me. Very creative what you've done here!
It comes as no surprise Beethoven's piano music lends itself to orchestration, he is known to think and write quite orchestrally. The result being this amazing is however a wonderful discovery. I've just come to realise Liszt wasted his time transcribing Beethoven's symphonies for piano - he should instead have orchestrated his piano sonatas. As a lifelong Beethoven afficionado and someone who has incorporated some of his motifs and style characteristics into own compositions I enjoyed this immensely!
Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed it so much. I don't know about Liszt wasting his time with his over-700 transcriptions, the intent he had was entirely different and I think he succeeded masterfully! Your comment does make me wonder what the result would've been if had taken on such a task though. No doubt would be fascinating
It's fascinating the mindset of different great composers. Beethoven was a big thinker and had a naturally orchestral mind. Many of Schubert's non-lieder compositions are essentially songs without words and feel as though they'd be better for a string orchestra or quartet. Bruckner's symphonies are essentially organ pieces transcribed for orchestra.
@@erika6651 I hear you re: Schubert. At least up until his late instrumental works anyway (like the piano trios, the late sonatas, and of course the late symphonies) which I feel foreshadow some of Mahler's earlier work actually? Hard agree on Bruckner though, but damn he could make some fine brass textures!
This is lovely... what a grand way to experience these sonatas, and I think Beethoven might have had some of these ideas in mind because of how he handled similar melodies in his symphonies!
This is really really cool. I've already listened to it three times, and hear new stuff every time. Still trying to identify some of the references. I love it. Thank you very much.
In my experience as a musician in a semi-professional symphony orchestra, if someone has to spend ten minutes trying to explain their piece, chances are very high that it's going to sound like a tornado rolling through a hardware store.
@@supasayajinsongoku4464 I wrote it over a span of 5 years, but most of it was done this year. Melody 101 was drafted in 2019, finished in 2021 and revised this year. Under the Influence was written in 2020 and revised this year. The remaining drafts were all done in one batch just a few months back.
VERY. Thank you for noticing and I'm glad you enjoyed :) Might I ask a bit of an odd question? In my notifications pane I see a preview for another comment by you referring to your exposure to the quartets vs. the piano sonatas but when I go to click on it, it vanishes and I'm unable to see the full comment. Is it possible you deleted that one? I ask only because this has happened a few times with comments on this video and I'm wondering if it's from the users deleting their comments or rather a buggy censor on youtube's end. Thanks in advance! (and please no obligation to elaborate on the comment if you deleted it, I'm really just curious if youtube is tossing comments in error)
@@pianiman Ha Ha, I deleted this comment myself after not wanting to appear stupid upon realising that everything I heard wasn't written by Beethoven. As a failed composer myself I have, in the past, said things that have resulted in abuse from musical ignorance often associated with You Tube. But thanks for asking.
@@DavidA-ps1qr Ha, understood! As you've probably guessed, I'm not used to content on my channel getting so much attention so the quirks of youtube notifications and comments and such are new to me. Clearly it's a bug on youtube's part that I'm still able to see the previews in the notification pane after someone deletes their comment. And sorry you've had such negative experiences in the past simply for not knowing/noticing something. This is a safe space here, I promise lol. But in any case, thank you for helping solve a mystery that's been driving me a bit mad these last few weeks. Oh, and if I HAD to choose, I'd pick the quartets too!
It doesn't sound like Beethoven at all. And even worse at some places it is very clumsy orchestrated . Some bits sound like Brahms' first Serenade. Take this as a compliment !
6:00 ad-hoc orchestra tuning is comedic perfection. You just can't take yourself too seriously! 11:18 basses up past that "hard limit" of an A Natural. Woohoo, fun time! (I speak as an orchestral bassist myself.) 12:00 trying to get the strings' fingers all twisted up, with a silly nanny goat shriek out of the trombones. Absolute genius comedy...I LOVE it! 12:50 the arrangement that keeps giving. LOVE that unexpected chord. 17:00 BAAAAM!! Now THAT's how to wake up your audience! I dare all the ranks of atonalists to generate any sort of musical emotion even to a shadow of this. 18:21 You're a genius, dude! I've played that piano sonata, but boy did you give it a different flair! Like I've never heard it before. Throwing in those Beethoven-esque punctuations is perfection on top of excellence. ...oh wait, that's combining it with one of Beethoven's symphonies (No. 7). Hilarious! 20:40 straight to D-Flat Major. That was SMOOTH! 21:16 cellos are going to hate you, but hey, that's what practicing is for. 34:40 it's hard enough finding a contrabassoonist, LOL! (This could of likely also be done on an organ if one is available.) Let me say that I've sort of listened to a number of modern compositions, but NONE of the ones I've yet heard come anywhere close to this level of musical completeness. I'm used to hearing pieces that sound like a grade school composition class effort--but this is something that posthumously flowed from the veins of the masters themselves. (P.S. unfortunately you kinda lost me with "Hot Mesto"...maybe I didn't get the references. All the rest was stunningly beautiful work though.)
A wonderful blending of Beethoven and so many other sources - Sibelius, Mahler and others. You could call it a 'mash up' but it is much better than that - an arrangement, a transformation, a presentation of musical heritage.
Thank you so much for this kind feedback. I feel pretty similarly about this as you described it, but it's one thing to pat myself on the back, quite another all this positive response it's been getting! Especially nice to read comments from those who seem to appreciate the journey from Beethoven to Mahler (peppered with a few of their contemporaries) as departure and terminal points along a musical lineage.
Ah, that's interesting - I admit I don't know too much Elgar - apart from the one we all know (Pomp & Circumstance) and the Cello Concerto (which I adore). Flattered at the comparison, thank you for your comments! :)
@@dedikandrej No, but I'm part of two local semi-professional symphony orchestras (as a double bassist) + have some musical connections I'm pulling on! I'm just a pohicktown country bumpkin trying to get a very well written piece of music onto the stand! So far I've sent it to 4 people...one executive director, one conductor, and two of my bass instructors (one currently in Texas). Sounds like the local bass instructor liked it, and is going to pass it on to several orchestras (college orchestra he teaches at + another orchestra he's part of, incidentally one I also played with back in 2008). If you have some musical friends who are part of an orchestra...pass the link on! All we mere mortals can do is try!
Mainly as an orchestration device to briefly highlight timbral contrast between the flutes and the strings (which they are doubling). Compare the coda 17:48 - 17:55 (mm. 102-104) where the device is inverted and the strings come in slightly early instead of the winds. There are some era-specific performance practise considerations that also went into these decisions, but I'll spare you a novel. I'm amazed anybody even noticed this
I use Sibelius 7.1 for notation with an add-on called Note Performer. It’s compatible with finale, Sibelius, or Dorico and will give you these results with surprisingly little effort. The audio is entirely computer-generated. As far as I know, it’s not compatible with musescore
@@hjo4104 I agree that @harrybmichell was a bit unkind in his comment, but maybe we can extend a courtesy back and chalk it up to the hubris of youth. A lot of musicians who play keyboard as a primary instrument don't realize how difficult it can be to stay in tune when playing in anything more than 4 flats or (especially) sharps. Rather than reply as I did before with a silly meme, let me answer a bit more fully: 1) The op. 78 is really challenging to play no matter what key it's in. If the ensemble has the skills to play it in G (or F-natural), then it wouldn't be beyond their abilites to play it in the original F#. 2) I didn't choose the pieces or place them in the order I did haphazardly. To transpose the Op. 78 would destroy the tonal relationships between all the movements and it would make the quotations of the Op. 28 scherzo within it really out of place. Not to mention all the F# min/maj music in the Hot Mesto movement (Beethoven's Op. 106 and Mahler's 10th Symphony). There's also like 40+ bars of uninterrupted F# Major (as a dominant to B minor) in the opening Op. 28. What would we do about that? ;) 3) There are no plans to have this performed by humans, and I'd be surprised if such an opportunity ever arose. In short, it's just a bit of fun; let's not take things too seriously.
@@stevekudlo1464 Yep! Quite a few quotes from his 2nd symphony in Under the Influence. Also, thank you for bringing astrology into the conversation 8-). Were (/are) the Finns still using the Julian calendar back in Sibelius' day along with the rest of the Orthodox church? I wonder if that would make him a Scorpio... would certainly be more fitting of the template *Naturally, I had to google it: Finland made the switch lonnnng before Sibelius came along, lol
@@MontyVierra It’s worse than that, it’s several real agencies representing *performing* artists (one of them actually quite famous) taking advantage of the system to make bogus claims of ownership because the claim and dispute system is (like you correctly pointed out) all AI and not verified at any point by a human being. Every single claim is saying each artist owns the exact same 2 minutes of music 😂 I’ll et you guess which 2 minutes (it’s in the 5th movement) If the AI decides my disputes are “false” I have no real way to appeal it, so if this video suddenly disappears within about a month, now you know why lol
@@MontyVierra Oh thank you. But it's really a non-problem personally. I don't monetize my content (and I don't plan to... I don't even think I could if I wanted to) so there's nothing really at stake for me. It's more just all the annoying emails I'm getting about it while this crooked process unfolds and knowing that the system in place allows for agencies to make false claims like this with no consequences.
@@pianiman I've downloaded it in case it gets taken down...and passed the link on to a local symphony orchestra (of which I'm a musician). This might just see the real light of day with real musicians... Any chance we could see the sheet music on IMSLP in case AI (arbitrary instruction) decides fate for beauty?
@@sidlori1592 Hi there. - thanks for all this enthusiasm, it's humbling to say the least! I'm not too stressed about it getting taken down. It looks like worst case the portion of music that is being claimed would be monetized (falsely) to the artists who are all claiming they own the exact same 2- minute excerpt of Beethoven's Hammerklavier. (I can't help but laugh whenever I utter this sentence). The prospect of a performance is thrilling, I admit, and I do hope it would be as enjoyable to play as you seemend to enjoy listening to it, but I wouldn't use this video as a reference - it's full of typos and little errors that I noticed only after uploading. And FYI, the score was optimized for video, so I used an 8.5x11 layout instead of the usual 11x17, which I know a conductor would hate. Also, the thought of extracting parts from this condensed score is not one I particularly enjoy, so I hope your orchestra would have someone on hire to make them from scratch using the conductor's score haha Also, I will reply to your other comprehensive comment at some point tomorrow. Was so much fun to read your reactions! Some interesting observations and music I'd like to point you in the direction of... a lot of the things you were praising me for (& technical critiques too) are actually direct quotes of established, standard repertoire orchestral music! I wish I could take credit (and blame) but, I barely wrote a single note of this xD
This is some of the best orchestration I've seen. Astounding.
Thank you :) Took a quick look at some music on your page. Very much in the dynasty of Mahler and Bruckner, but your emulation is masterful! Subbed as I'm curious to see how your language evolves :)
Indeed!!! Totally Idiomatic And Delightful Work! Cheers From México City, Maestros!
@@paulalcazar I'm right with you on that one...
This is fascinating. I know these sonatas like the back of my hand, but you're allowing me to hear new things in them. Thank you!
This was the ultimate goal, thank you! I'm glad to know that you (and apparently so many others) were able to appreciate it on that level and find new insights in familiar places.
These are wonderful. I just love how we're listening along, and then suddenly realise we've been hearing Sibelius or Mahler for some time, without being conscious we've switched from Beethoven. It's seamless and effortless. Beautifully done. Congratulations.
I remember orchestrating part of sonata 24 as part of an orchestration challenge, so that part was familiar to me.
Very creative what you've done here!
@@emilygclarinet thank you Emily! I’m glad you enjoyed it :)
Thomas still hasn't uploaded the rest of those evaluations which is fine for a Beethoven fan like me.
It comes as no surprise Beethoven's piano music lends itself to orchestration, he is known to think and write quite orchestrally. The result being this amazing is however a wonderful discovery. I've just come to realise Liszt wasted his time transcribing Beethoven's symphonies for piano - he should instead have orchestrated his piano sonatas. As a lifelong Beethoven afficionado and someone who has incorporated some of his motifs and style characteristics into own compositions I enjoyed this immensely!
Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed it so much. I don't know about Liszt wasting his time with his over-700 transcriptions, the intent he had was entirely different and I think he succeeded masterfully! Your comment does make me wonder what the result would've been if had taken on such a task though. No doubt would be fascinating
It's fascinating the mindset of different great composers. Beethoven was a big thinker and had a naturally orchestral mind. Many of Schubert's non-lieder compositions are essentially songs without words and feel as though they'd be better for a string orchestra or quartet. Bruckner's symphonies are essentially organ pieces transcribed for orchestra.
@@erika6651 I hear you re: Schubert. At least up until his late instrumental works anyway (like the piano trios, the late sonatas, and of course the late symphonies) which I feel foreshadow some of Mahler's earlier work actually?
Hard agree on Bruckner though, but damn he could make some fine brass textures!
This is lovely... what a grand way to experience these sonatas, and I think Beethoven might have had some of these ideas in mind because of how he handled similar melodies in his symphonies!
Thank you! And for the most part, I tried to imagine how he might have orchestrated them. Other places, maybe not so much :)
@@pianiman "other places maybe not so much" LOL...but seriously, this is EXCELLENT work!
Marvelous work, sir. I'll be sure to listen to this and rethink my life
This is really really cool. I've already listened to it three times, and hear new stuff every time. Still trying to identify some of the references. I love it. Thank you very much.
Awesome that you're getting so much out of it and having fun with it on repeated listens. Thank you :)
That's really outstanding! A real orchestra should play this! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed, thank YOU :)
Very nice orchestration ! And the Melody 101 sounds so much "Bhramsian" like that !
Superb! thanks for posting. The rendering sounds very decent!
Thank you!
whenever some writes that much into their description theres a 60% chance whatever your about to hear is going to be better then decent
In my experience as a musician in a semi-professional symphony orchestra, if someone has to spend ten minutes trying to explain their piece, chances are very high that it's going to sound like a tornado rolling through a hardware store.
At about 8.20 and 9.12 the quote from Sibelius' 2nd symphony somehow fits so well. It's just as "Pastoral" as Beethoven's sonata
Very interesting - especially because I have similar projects. I am excited
Nice! Just took a peek at your channel and definitely looks like some fun listening ahead of me.
@@pianiman Always feel welcome 🙂
Nice work, I've always thought that Beethoven sonatas could be transcribed for orchestra. I would like to do the Hammerklaiver for orchestra!
@@fastfingers110 do it!! You’ll be joining a long legacy going back to pretty much since it first existed hehe
Gorgeous orchestration-and very close to the Beethoven (or Mahler) aesthetic, whatever you do with the actual notes!
Thank you! :)
post-mortal obsession of Beethoven with Mahler memes
lol love this
Beethoven's obsession or someone's obsession with Beethoven? Clumsy use of English!
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brilliant
Thank you!
@@pianiman this took you 5 years?!?!
@@supasayajinsongoku4464 I wrote it over a span of 5 years, but most of it was done this year. Melody 101 was drafted in 2019, finished in 2021 and revised this year. Under the Influence was written in 2020 and revised this year. The remaining drafts were all done in one batch just a few months back.
Trio from op. 110 movement 2 and op. 10/3 movement three is outrageous omg 19:12
Everyone's talking about Sibelius and Mahler but did anyone else spot Wagner around 3:44
@@alexbouffler8577 🌄
Bravissimo!!
17:01 Mahler 10 “scream”
xO
Fantastic music 🎶
Thank you!
Interessantissima la resa orchestrale delle sonate
Grazie dal Canada :)
It's very "tongue in cheek" isn't it. But all the same very clever. Well done.
VERY. Thank you for noticing and I'm glad you enjoyed :)
Might I ask a bit of an odd question? In my notifications pane I see a preview for another comment by you referring to your exposure to the quartets vs. the piano sonatas but when I go to click on it, it vanishes and I'm unable to see the full comment. Is it possible you deleted that one? I ask only because this has happened a few times with comments on this video and I'm wondering if it's from the users deleting their comments or rather a buggy censor on youtube's end. Thanks in advance!
(and please no obligation to elaborate on the comment if you deleted it, I'm really just curious if youtube is tossing comments in error)
@@pianiman Ha Ha, I deleted this comment myself after not wanting to appear stupid upon realising that everything I heard wasn't written by Beethoven. As a failed composer myself I have, in the past, said things that have resulted in abuse from musical ignorance often associated with You Tube. But thanks for asking.
@@DavidA-ps1qr Ha, understood! As you've probably guessed, I'm not used to content on my channel getting so much attention so the quirks of youtube notifications and comments and such are new to me. Clearly it's a bug on youtube's part that I'm still able to see the previews in the notification pane after someone deletes their comment.
And sorry you've had such negative experiences in the past simply for not knowing/noticing something. This is a safe space here, I promise lol. But in any case, thank you for helping solve a mystery that's been driving me a bit mad these last few weeks.
Oh, and if I HAD to choose, I'd pick the quartets too!
8:22
Beethoven - 4th Symphony - 3rd Movement
“A” for effort 🤓
It doesn't sound like Beethoven at all. And even worse at some places it is very clumsy orchestrated . Some bits sound like Brahms' first Serenade. Take this as a compliment !
Why must you hector me with such compliments!?
4:40 - very Sibelian!
@@SittaCarolinensis I wonder why that could be ;)
tuning section during the recap of under the influence 😳
Aaaaaaaaaaa
That was a hilarious musical prank to pull....very well executed!
6:00 ad-hoc orchestra tuning is comedic perfection. You just can't take yourself too seriously!
11:18 basses up past that "hard limit" of an A Natural. Woohoo, fun time! (I speak as an orchestral bassist myself.)
12:00 trying to get the strings' fingers all twisted up, with a silly nanny goat shriek out of the trombones. Absolute genius comedy...I LOVE it!
12:50 the arrangement that keeps giving. LOVE that unexpected chord.
17:00 BAAAAM!! Now THAT's how to wake up your audience! I dare all the ranks of atonalists to generate any sort of musical emotion even to a shadow of this.
18:21 You're a genius, dude! I've played that piano sonata, but boy did you give it a different flair! Like I've never heard it before. Throwing in those Beethoven-esque punctuations is perfection on top of excellence.
...oh wait, that's combining it with one of Beethoven's symphonies (No. 7). Hilarious!
20:40 straight to D-Flat Major. That was SMOOTH!
21:16 cellos are going to hate you, but hey, that's what practicing is for.
34:40 it's hard enough finding a contrabassoonist, LOL! (This could of likely also be done on an organ if one is available.)
Let me say that I've sort of listened to a number of modern compositions, but NONE of the ones I've yet heard come anywhere close to this level of musical completeness. I'm used to hearing pieces that sound like a grade school composition class effort--but this is something that posthumously flowed from the veins of the masters themselves.
(P.S. unfortunately you kinda lost me with "Hot Mesto"...maybe I didn't get the references. All the rest was stunningly beautiful work though.)
Why Hammerklavier?
@@diedrike863 I don’t understand this question
A wonderful blending of Beethoven and so many other sources - Sibelius, Mahler and others. You could call it a 'mash up' but it is much better than that - an arrangement, a transformation, a presentation of musical heritage.
Thank you so much for this kind feedback. I feel pretty similarly about this as you described it, but it's one thing to pat myself on the back, quite another all this positive response it's been getting! Especially nice to read comments from those who seem to appreciate the journey from Beethoven to Mahler (peppered with a few of their contemporaries) as departure and terminal points along a musical lineage.
6:02 💀
11:32 Op. 28 scherzo + Op. 78 movement 2 is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ha! Somebody noticed :D Glad you enjoyed
the orchestration in the exposition of "substitution" is very reminiscent of Elgar, overall this is lovely, and the orchestration is amazing!
Ah, that's interesting - I admit I don't know too much Elgar - apart from the one we all know (Pomp & Circumstance) and the Cello Concerto (which I adore). Flattered at the comparison, thank you for your comments! :)
@@pianiman I am very much into all things Elgar so absolutely do consider my comment a compliment :)
The Sibelius Easter Egg.
@@WorldofIntenseArtie 🐣
I would pay to see this performed live, js
I'm workin' on it in the central Ohio area....
@@sidlori1592 thats awesome! do you have a symphonic orchestra at your disposal?
@@dedikandrej No, but I'm part of two local semi-professional symphony orchestras (as a double bassist) + have some musical connections I'm pulling on! I'm just a pohicktown country bumpkin trying to get a very well written piece of music onto the stand!
So far I've sent it to 4 people...one executive director, one conductor, and two of my bass instructors (one currently in Texas). Sounds like the local bass instructor liked it, and is going to pass it on to several orchestras (college orchestra he teaches at + another orchestra he's part of, incidentally one I also played with back in 2008).
If you have some musical friends who are part of an orchestra...pass the link on! All we mere mortals can do is try!
I really liked it very much. The pastorale sonata transcription feels very much like Brahms 2nd symphony.
Thank you! And yeah definitely felt Brahms' presence in parts of that one as I was arranging it
I love the description 😂😂
The description loves YOU!
Magnífico, me encanta❤❤👏👏👏👏
Muchas gracias :)
Wait, are you actually Beethoven??
@@paules3437 This is the only known historical basis for reincarnation 🤪🤣
Why did you make the flutes come in slightly early at 14:08, measure 19?
Mainly as an orchestration device to briefly highlight timbral contrast between the flutes and the strings (which they are doubling). Compare the coda 17:48 - 17:55 (mm. 102-104) where the device is inverted and the strings come in slightly early instead of the winds. There are some era-specific performance practise considerations that also went into these decisions, but I'll spare you a novel. I'm amazed anybody even noticed this
I am curious, is there a software that convert the manuscript (of orchestra scores) into an actual performance? How do you get it performed?
Musescore
I use Sibelius 7.1 for notation with an add-on called Note Performer. It’s compatible with finale, Sibelius, or Dorico and will give you these results with surprisingly little effort. The audio is entirely computer-generated. As far as I know, it’s not compatible with musescore
What about transposing the second one to G major?
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Because it’s in F#? Whining about the key is, like, the lamest thing ever lol
@@harrybmichell since you are so smart, tell that to all brass players, violinists, violists, cellists etc. of this world ...
... who simply love everything with more than four sharps/flats
@@hjo4104 I agree that @harrybmichell was a bit unkind in his comment, but maybe we can extend a courtesy back and chalk it up to the hubris of youth.
A lot of musicians who play keyboard as a primary instrument don't realize how difficult it can be to stay in tune when playing in anything more than 4 flats or (especially) sharps.
Rather than reply as I did before with a silly meme, let me answer a bit more fully:
1) The op. 78 is really challenging to play no matter what key it's in. If the ensemble has the skills to play it in G (or F-natural), then it wouldn't be beyond their abilites to play it in the original F#.
2) I didn't choose the pieces or place them in the order I did haphazardly. To transpose the Op. 78 would destroy the tonal relationships between all the movements and it would make the quotations of the Op. 28 scherzo within it really out of place. Not to mention all the F# min/maj music in the Hot Mesto movement (Beethoven's Op. 106 and Mahler's 10th Symphony).
There's also like 40+ bars of uninterrupted F# Major (as a dominant to B minor) in the opening Op. 28. What would we do about that? ;)
3) There are no plans to have this performed by humans, and I'd be surprised if such an opportunity ever arose. In short, it's just a bit of fun; let's not take things too seriously.
I noticed the Sibelius quote ;)
:D
Yes there are more than a couple of quotes from the Finn, mostly from the second symphony. He may be a sagg, but not Beethoven.
@@stevekudlo1464 Yep! Quite a few quotes from his 2nd symphony in Under the Influence.
Also, thank you for bringing astrology into the conversation 8-). Were (/are) the Finns still using the Julian calendar back in Sibelius' day along with the rest of the Orthodox church? I wonder if that would make him a Scorpio... would certainly be more fitting of the template
*Naturally, I had to google it: Finland made the switch lonnnng before Sibelius came along, lol
The timpani are not Beethoven enough... but all in all a wondersome musical Spaziergang.
@@sapper4711 what greater test of one’s legacy than having your name turned into an adjective. I’m glad you enjoyed the journey, traveler.
7:25 Sibelius
2:47 :)
But why Sibelius?
@@douglasyiuchinglok307 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Muy bueno,Beethoven vence la A.I.,carajo!!
xD Siii exactamente! E muchas gracias
Only an AI would think this is a copiwrite 🙃 violation.
@@MontyVierra It’s worse than that, it’s several real agencies representing *performing* artists (one of them actually quite famous) taking advantage of the system to make bogus claims of ownership because the claim and dispute system is (like you correctly pointed out) all AI and not verified at any point by a human being.
Every single claim is saying each artist owns the exact same 2 minutes of music 😂 I’ll et you guess which 2 minutes (it’s in the 5th movement)
If the AI decides my disputes are “false” I have no real way to appeal it, so if this video suddenly disappears within about a month, now you know why lol
@@pianiman Thanks for sharing. I'm sorry you're having this problem.
@@MontyVierra Oh thank you. But it's really a non-problem personally. I don't monetize my content (and I don't plan to... I don't even think I could if I wanted to) so there's nothing really at stake for me. It's more just all the annoying emails I'm getting about it while this crooked process unfolds and knowing that the system in place allows for agencies to make false claims like this with no consequences.
@@pianiman I've downloaded it in case it gets taken down...and passed the link on to a local symphony orchestra (of which I'm a musician). This might just see the real light of day with real musicians...
Any chance we could see the sheet music on IMSLP in case AI (arbitrary instruction) decides fate for beauty?
@@sidlori1592 Hi there. - thanks for all this enthusiasm, it's humbling to say the least! I'm not too stressed about it getting taken down. It looks like worst case the portion of music that is being claimed would be monetized (falsely) to the artists who are all claiming they own the exact same 2- minute excerpt of Beethoven's Hammerklavier. (I can't help but laugh whenever I utter this sentence).
The prospect of a performance is thrilling, I admit, and I do hope it would be as enjoyable to play as you seemend to enjoy listening to it, but I wouldn't use this video as a reference - it's full of typos and little errors that I noticed only after uploading. And FYI, the score was optimized for video, so I used an 8.5x11 layout instead of the usual 11x17, which I know a conductor would hate.
Also, the thought of extracting parts from this condensed score is not one I particularly enjoy, so I hope your orchestra would have someone on hire to make them from scratch using the conductor's score haha
Also, I will reply to your other comprehensive comment at some point tomorrow. Was so much fun to read your reactions! Some interesting observations and music I'd like to point you in the direction of... a lot of the things you were praising me for (& technical critiques too) are actually direct quotes of established, standard repertoire orchestral music! I wish I could take credit (and blame) but, I barely wrote a single note of this xD