CLICK / STRAIGHT STICK: Just Another Scam??? // In-Depth HONEST Review
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
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Chapters:
0:00 The Promises & Unboxing
3:15 What are we testing?
4:35 Special Announcement!!!
5:04 Initial Dispersion
5:22 Test 1 - Swing Plane?
6:45 Test 2 - Swing Speed?
9:10 Test 3 - Dispersion?
11:55 12-Day Update
12:50 FLOP OR NOT??? The Verdict
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So now its called CLICK STICK..... Hmmm... rebranding the same tech or anything at all different ???? Very skeptical
Oh wow!! Great catch, haha. Looks basically the same but they got rid of the "swing speed" section and placed different "levels" now. Cheers!
This is the honest review I was looking for. Thanks for producing it and... saving me some money. Liked and subscribed!
I appreciate it! Cheers!
Ordered mine after I saw Mr SG’s review. I can’t get it to click unless I swing properly, just went out in the garage to double check, (but if I whip the shit out of my wrists it will click on any plane) anyway, practiced with it, timed the click up with the ball strike, and was blasting perfect shots. Translated directly to my club afterwards. 🤷🏻♂️ mine works great. (6.1 HCP)
Glad you are finding success with it! From everyone that has commented with their experience... my overall take is still that the "click" really has no significance outside of getting speed down through the impact area and it does nothing for path which is the claim. The messaging is just as muddy too... Rocco says just get the click and then hit it, Eric says the click should happen after the ball, Mr. SG says it should happen at impact... So it goes from make it click, to actually don't make it click, to make it click in just one circumstance only. You being a 6.1 (grats btw) I'm sure you can groove any club and I would probably surmise you are benefiting more from the grip and tempo checks. Appreciate the comment, cheers!
Exactly what I put in my comment to the suggestion it’s a “scam” - it’s not even close to a scam - what are they claiming it doesn’t do - it clicks at perfect contact and gives priceless feedback to contact and energy transfer, weather you don’t like it is your opinion but for the word Scam to be associated isn’t only false it’s completely opposite
Great review and very clever editing. I got suckered into buying one of these things and found the exact issues you did, I couldn't NOT make it click. The buying process was the most painful on line shopping experience I've ever had too, it took literally 20 minutes to complete. Fortunately they did honor the return so no harm no foul.
My better half is still on the hook to film a video with the straight stick and then mine will soon be returned as well (unless it actually helps her?..... maybe???). Cheers!
Saved me $$$. Scam, scam, scam. Rocco should be ashamed. Was a big fan of his but no more. Thanks guys for saving me $$$$$!
The paycheck must have been pretty nice for Rocco for sure... such a shame. Cheers!
He shouldn’t be ashamed he knew what he was doing. All of performance golf products are all scams.
Thank you for this review--Hope to see more like it. High handicappers like me will do most anything to outplay their buddies on the course. Unfortunately, substandard products like this fail in helping us achieve that goal. Thanks again!
You're welcome! I'm certainly enjoying the response to the video, but I do wish it was because it ACTUALLY helped. Cheers!
The two training aids that worked for me were the Speed Whoosh and the Matzie Swing Perfecter. I used those two exclusively and had some great gains while fixing my over the top, steep club path. I also picked up a Matzie swing trainer but I don't use that as much as my Swing Perfecter. Great video. I view a lot of golf channels and I have been getting spammed incessantly with ads for this thing.
Thanks for the recommendations! I'll do some research and see if they peak my interest as well. I'm really just trying to cure this out-in path and pulls left (sometimes cut/fade when club is open). I know WHAT I'm doing I just haven't found the feels to just get the club on a better line. Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap I’m doing the same thing of late
@@joshwilson3943 I have been pulling or big draw to a hook. It started 2 yrs ago. i was a 6 hcp. My right knee started to hurt. I had it replaced 6 mnths ago. I have changed my grip and some days i hit it good others. same. I think that I am not turning my hips much. all arms and little hip rotation. That come from my knee hurting for 2 yrs. I'm working hard.
Seems to be a common theme here. It is refreshing to get a review of a product that is not biased from the company they are reviewing. Thank you for the honest review. I feel after reading many reviews but especially after seeing your video that this club would not help me. Thanks again.
Saw this on a bunch of instagram ads and was skeptical. Thank you for proving my suspicions
For sure, thanks for the comment! Cheers!
You forgot to use the other adjustable feature. You can turn the grip to a draw or fade bias. interested if you change grip
position you still can make it click.
Just found your channel from searching after watching Mr SG. I like a honest channel for once , not like how a lot are getting like now where they review a club , say how awesome it is and edit shots where they are actually hitting 15 shots later from their last shot on screen but edited as though it was their next shot . Also how the chipper was the best thing since slice bread but they scull it across the green and say " you have to practice with this club . Well der, if you practice with any club , you will get better.
You have now found a new follower
Keep up the good work
Cheers
Really appreciate it Marc. I still attest that I bought this because I was hopeful it would help with consistency and tighten up my dispersion, it wasn't an aimed "hit piece" at PG. From my use, there is nothing this training aid does to actually help that. I buy things I find interesting and try to pass along the information. Cheers!
Thank you for the honesty. Keep me posted if you change your mind. I was really on the fence with this.
Will do! And for the record it hasn't... outside of the grip trainer.
Was literally about to order this and came across the review. Thanks for saving me some cash. And your editing game is 💪. Loved the video
I have to say, I watched your first video and had already ordered the straight stick. After watching your video I cancelled my order, but the owner Brixton called me personally as I pointed him to your video. He was totally professional and did not disparage you for your review. He convinced me to try the club and the club arrived the day after we spoke. I cant say I agree at all with your review or the person who “hit the worst irons of his life after using this training aid”. I am a 16 handicap who struggles with iron striking lately. After hitting 5 balls with this club and some practice swings with the club I played the best golf of my life in my league that night, AND had a hole in one. Since that day I have used the aid 3 times and am playing the best golf I have ever played with 90% of my irons going straight as an arrow. My experience with this club has been the best ever. I own every training aid ever made and I have to say this is the best and nothing comes close, it literally fixed me in a few days. I feel like you are dead wrong on this. If it didnt work for you I am sure you are the .000001% of people it may not work for, but for the vast majority of golfers I cant see how this cant fix their games after my experience. Anyway, just had to say this.
Super stoked you saw results! The primary purpose for me purchasing this club was to get better not a clickbait dunk on PG. I do not tend to struggle with ball striking (compression) so to speak with my irons... I struggle with the path, which leads to my big misses. They specifically market it as a tool to help address path. I watched all the videos, did the training, specifically used it as an aid as directed since the day it has arrived, and as a warm-up device before playing multiple rounds (even though I only mention 1 in the video). It does not work for ME and the stated "technology" of the club IS misleading. I hope others see your side and results because ultimately we just want to play better and I wish that success on everyone that plays this silly game. Cheers!
Seems to me like you got hit with a huge placebo my dude 😂. I can almost guarantee you just by the looks of that thing that there is 0 technology in that that is going to accurately release the “clicker” based on swing plane and swing speed. What are they using for that? A gyroscope? Sensors? Nope. Literally nothing. It’s just a piece of plastic that makes a clicks noise. No chance that is going to affect your swing plane, contact, or tempo at all. Glad your “sugar pill” worked for you though!
@user-pi8jk4tv6g Different type of swing trainers do work specially at the beginning. In my personal case, I don't stay practicing with same trainer over and over after I got my habit "fixed" and overly confident myself would drop it move on to the next without keep using that trainer anymore and fell back to the old habit. There is no placebo in golf. He must have done something right. It's even possible that he will pick up his old habit AGAIN, ignoring the proper clicks anymore because after all he's the one that has to reinforce the movement not this tool. He just gotta keep it going which is the hardest part for every golfer.
What is your swing speed and what did you set the club for your use.
Great video. Thanks!!! Very entertaining, great job. But more importantly, the content is honest and informative. The 3 versions of Kyle definitely makes it more fun and keeps interest.
Awesome, thank you! I was a tough edit / filming process but it was fun to put together. Cheers!
Just saved me some $$$! Thanks! If training aids such as this lived up to their promotional hype, manufacturers would make at least one available at every driving range for golfers to test and experience its effectiveness. If it worked, many golfers would buy after testing. The absent availability for testing this training aid before buying is very telling…let the buyer beware!
For sure, great point! Cheers!
Thanks for the honest review. I get the same effect of this product from putting empty toilet paper rolls on the club. Helps me to remember to release and costs way less.
Glad it was helpful and thanks for the tip. I'll give it a try. Cheers!
You were actually supposed to have it click at the very bottom of your swing where you make contact. If it does not click there, your swing is off. It’ll click just by randomly swinging it. It actually does work really well.
Thank you for the review. I was about to pull the trigger on that trainer. Glad I saw your vid. Happy to subscribe!
Thanks for the sub! I really appreciate it, cheers!
Great job. I was thinking of buying and really appreciated your info.
Glad it helped. Cheers!
As an engineer with a PE license, this video verified what I assumed about this “trainer”.
Bought one. It would not click. Ever. I dropped it to its lowest swing speed. Clicks every time. What it has helped me with. Dropping your right shoulder on the down swing. Very frustrating at first. It worked. Next to the Lag shot and the sure strike. I like it.
Glad you're seeing results, shoot low this year! Cheers!
Thanks for this video. I was thinking about buying one until I watched this. I too had the question about how it could only release on the correct plane. You proved without a doubt that that feature is bogus and that is the main reason I wanted it. Thanks for saving me about $140.
Glad I could help! Thanks for the comment Jerry, cheers!
Edit 4: Second follow up video here: ruclips.net/video/Zrxn0MZs1yE/видео.html Cheers!
Edit 3: Quite a few people have mentioned "You aren't timing it right....duh.."... I added the duh... I think you are missing the bigger issue. I'm already planning a follow up video addressing this... STAY TUNED!!! Cheers everyone, I'm just overwhelmed by the reception and discussion on both sides... THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Edit 2: Mr. SG and Eric Cogomo (both with PG affiliate links) have also deleted my comments from their videos featuring the Straight Stick. I only commented that I did not have the same results when testing it. --- I left another comment on a different Eric video that is still up at this time 5/24.
Edit: Also I think it ironic that RUclips is running Performance Golf ads on this video. I am not affiliated with Performance Golf nor even eligible for monetization through RUclips.
Hey everyone!! Be sure to LIKE the video (subscribe too please.......) so we can get the most beautiful woman I know, Mrs. Bills Mafia herself, swinging this thing. Cheers!
You need to put an affiliate link to Performance Golf in your description so if I eventually buy it, I can click through from your review. 🙂
@@bennettlewis5495 I appreciate the support and comment! Even if I had the ability to have a Performance Golf affiliate link (they pick who that is) I do not think I would endorse this product personally. Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap thanks for your valued true honest appraisal. Much appreciated
My friend bought one last week and has the same issue which the metal did not click no matter what. I sent the email to the company yesterday, but they did not respond. They quickly responded quickly when I told them I received the club and gave me more links for their other products.
Every training aid out there could be analyzed / debated to highlight all the pros and the cons. Biggest thing I see with the Straight Stick is the following 1) Most golfers have poor grips. Heck Scottie Scheffler the number 1 ranked golfer in the world hits balls with a pre-molded grip. He recognizes the importance of what making your grip 1-2% better does. 98% of golfers on the planet could benefit a TON from a grip just 5-10% better. Or at the minimum a slightly stronger grip. The adjustable grip allows golfers with a weak grip to correct it and have more of a square face. If the face is open you have to come over the top. Improving the grip should help golfers shallow and square the face better. 2) The Straight Stick helps you have a more athletic downswing, build in more lag/release the club better through the feedback of the clicker. 3) Improving Plane - Some valid points this club won't PERFECT your plane, but if you swing under 100 MPH it is harder to click it if you are over the top. If you swing over 100 MPH (which most ppl don't) you can click it with your plane being off. I think we could all agree every training aid has pros and cons, but man #1 and #2 on this list are pretty solid wins for most golfers trying to get better. :)
Totally agree, my main issue is that it is not being presented that way. Grip trainer to help feel speed through impact… yes. No click if you aren’t in the “slot”, correct path, etc etc. (which they all plug)… no. I’m pretty confident that it wouldn’t sell as well if if was the former. I have another follow up coming Sunday, hopefully. Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap If I were you I'd send the club back if you don't like it. Just might not be for you. :) Company honors a refund if people don't like it. Would be great to get some feedback on how well the company handles support. Don't see a lot of pros giving lessons and saying if you don't get better I'll give you ALL your money back. :) I just disagree a bit saying it's for beginners. When 99% of golfers could benefit from a better grip and more athletic release and some sort of feedback. The data shows the average golfer shoots a 100, and heck that's not counting the folks not keeping score. In that case the average player shoots 110. Also according to the USGA golfers get 1 shot worse after playing for 3 years. Is helping golfers improve their grip, swing more athletically hurting them or helping? I'd say 90% of golfers could benefit from this, and it's something that should be highlighted. Would be interested to see how you compare this to the LagShot, Orange Whip, etc.
Thank you for your honesty, I was able to cancel my order before it shipped. The website was super sketch and scammy which should have been enough to change my mind. Thanks so much!!
Yeah... I thought the same thing about the website and such. But, I figured, "why not?" I'll do a video on it and see how true that 365 day money-back guarantee is if it turns out poorly. However, I would say for just your absolute beginner golfer... I could see it being useful to a certain point. Cheers!
Yeah, any site with infinity scrolling and a "golden seal" image somewhere in the middle is sketchy af.
You made wise choice. It just doesn't work as advertised.
The site also baits you into other items that you don’t need along access to their scratch club with 50 different videos further clouding your mind
Like many, Rocco showed up on my computer and I had to watch. I found it interesting because I saw something many years ago. I'm 74 and I remember when I was about 15 or so (more than 50 years ago), there was a club that was virtually identical to the straight stick. If you made a good swing, there would be a noise of some sort that confirmed that you had made a good swing. It wasn't easy to get it to make that special noise. Thanks for the in depth review!
Appreciate the comment, cheers!
This video is gold……..excellent review. I play to a 6 hncp and when I tried a friend’s straight stick I could make it click with different swing types, but my friend (who is a beginning golfer) had to make a “better” swing to make it click. I could also make a swing where I would hold off and the mechanism wouldn’t click. My opinion, if you have an understanding of the golf swing you can release and make the mechanism click. On a positive note, I think for a beginning golfer the product has some merit. The adjustable grip reminder is good. I also think the click provides feedback for those working on a more delayed release. All in all it was a good review…….keep doing what you’re doing……liked and followed.
You also can get it to click right at impact, at any swing speed or path, and with any type of contact with the ball (hitting it thin, fat, or perfectly flush) because the inertial force of a moving object hitting a stationary object is greater than the magnetic force holding the metal disc and thus dislodge it right at impact. So, even a sh*tty swing will give positive aural feedback. It's a complete scam!
I appreciate the comment and honestly I do see some value in this for a beginner golfer. Grip trainer and feeling that speed through the impact zone with the click. It is just the click does not mean anything in regards to have the club "in the slot" pin seeking darts yadda yadda that all these shills are claiming. Which is the main reason I and probably others decided to purchase it. Cheers Dude!
And we all know these are being cheaply made overseas as well...
Wow at all the mixed reviews! Just have a question for the one's who cannot make it click, but yet still play decent golf. Could it possibly be your using more arm than wrist? Is it possible you have learned how to control your accuracy and striking even though your mechanics are not perfect? I am a scratch golfer before you ask. I also play this game at a high level for an amatuer and I could not make it click at first. My golf pro/coach/caddie swung it at 100mph and made it click the first time. That's when I knew I had work to do. Even though my stats showed I was a good player, my release was late and I was not nearly compressing the ball at impact. This swing trainer not only helped my swing, which I thought was great, and now that my release is on point I have picked up an average of 10 yards per club. This took some getting used to on the links, because I had to almost drop a club to stay at my previous distance. So to say this is only for begginers is not true IMO. However, it is your game and your money. Play it how ever you like as long as you enjoy the game.
Thank you for the follow up video. I still can’t get mine to release at any speed or angle. It has helped me with my hand position by providing a better grip feel that I can transfer to the regular clubs in my bag.
Seriously wonder if it is a quality control issue also. Which would be a WHOLE other issue for Performance Golf. Thanks Jerry, cheers!
Seems like it. I wonder if someone who's is working is willing to come on your channel to settle this
@@GolfOnTap Mine wouldnt release either. I sliced a thin fiberglass washer and placed it between the magnet and clicker, so that brought the clicker release into normal swing speed range. Still, unless your swing speed is super consistent, can't count on this to identify early release. A slightly faster swing will release the magnet early even if you're not "early releasing".
Thanks so much for the honest review. I'm one if those high handicappers who gets sucked into training aids. I'll save the money for a lesson.
I need to just bite the bullet and get some lessons also. I think this self-diagnosing oh I should try this path has gone on long enough. Cheers!
Appreciate the honest review. It's refreshing to have a review done by someone who is not compensated or sponsored by the manufacturer.
Thanks for the comment and glad you liked to video, hope you consider subscribing! Cheers!
Great video review! Very informative and at the same time entertaining. I get my Straight Sticks in a few days. Looking forward to my own review. I'm tempted to send a link to this review to Eric Corgono, another golf instructor who pushes this training aid. He claims he was part of a team that worked over a year developing. He has several RUclips's out using it. I might just post it on one of his latest and see what he says in reply. Probably wouldn't reply though. Thanks again!
Thanks again Rick and appreciate the compliment. Spend a lot of time editing these and try to make them fun also. As far as the SS goes… I see it as a legitimate beginner training aid, but it under delivers otherwise (and is misleading). I would be surprised if Eric commented. Cheers!
I am getting ready to send back my 7 iron. No matter how hard I swing it just won't click. Shame on Rocco & Cogorno
for hocking it. Save your money.
Great and honest video. I had the exact same findings when using this. I also broke it the first day rip. You should do more videos of reviews for things like this I'd watch them all!
Thanks Gage, glad I'm not crazy. I would be happy to take some recommendations on other products. Typically I just buy things I find interesting with the hope it will help my game and then just give my honest take on it. Cheers!
Thanks ! You saved me 400.00 bucks !!! I can hit my 7 iron 200 yards , If I don't duff it ,
You proved exactly what I expected to be the case when I saw this ad!! What a scam!!
Great, honest review. Liked it a lot. Thanks. I was, repeat was, considering buying it.
Glad it was helpful! Cheers!
I bought one Straight Stick…love it and it is not automatic that you get the click
Glad you’re having success with it! Cheers!
point isnt just the click, but when it clicks. It should be clicking at the same tlme or a little after. in your five shots you could clearly hear it click before you hit the ball. That is an indication that you are not on plane or releasing too soon
I’m calling shenanigans on that. There’s nothing in the promo material or training videos that says as such. And honestly it refutes their whole “just swing and click it” pitch. The affiliated reviews also never truly demonstrate a proper "poor" swing much less hit balls with a poor swing. Because if they did it would click and contradict the whole thing. My wife (who has never golfed) gets it to click by hitting 5 inches behind the ball. Just saying, that's my experience. I feel its misleading, I hope other find success and lower their scores with it, but its not for me. Cheers!
Exactly! I noticed the same thing. Perhaps getting that timing in would make a difference. Might be worth another try with this in mind.
@@garykriadis4854 I get this is coming from the Mr. SG video with him saying, "oh I didn't time it." but just for the thought train... PG only says get it to click, focus on the click - not it should only click after you hit a ball. PG also says it does NOT click if you make a bad swing (path/slot or speed) - but it can click any where. So now you guys are saying I should basically be focused on only making it click in one specific circumstances in opposition to all of their own marketing material and claims?
Marketing aside, what did the instructions say?
@@GolfOnTap I agree not every training aid is for everyone, but I have watched many videos on this club and they have talked multiple times that the clicking sound should come after ball contact to train the proper release. Regardless, still enjoyed the review.
I don’t see many women golfers commenting on the Straight Stick.
Although I had different results, I liked your review. Because it’s a men’s 7i, it’s heavier than just about all of my clubs. For that reason, it’s changed my warm-up routine.
For me, what I found was that my grip and wrists impacted the click more than the speed. If my grip was too loose or tight, I often couldn’t get it to click when swinging no matter what I did.
Lastly, I don’t have the mobility I wished I did, and I’ve noticed that warming up with the straight stick has helped me increase my range of motion - likely because it’s heavier than even my Orange Whip.
So, I agree that the claims are Uber-hyped. However, there may be a small case to use the straight stick as a conditioning aid. And at least for me, it’s the mobility & conditioning that’s made the difference in my game.
Thanks for your review!
I love this Jennifer! Thanks for the input and I still (or my own better half does) owe everyone a video on her using it. I do think it has a place “somewhere” but nothing to the extent they claimed and made money from. Appreciate it! Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap awesome - every female golfer I’ve let use my straight stick comments on its heftiness. The ones who are low handicappers and I’m super great shape don’t find it to be useful. Older folks (like me) or anyone with hip/knee injuries have found it useful as a conditioning aid. Maybe a secondary (and more accurate) market focused on these types of benefits might draw better reviews. Ultimately, folks looking for magic fairy dust to fix their golf game will be disappointed by this device: it takes work, effort, and persistence to improve. Definitely does not happen in ten shots or less.
Happy golfing!
Well I have both the driver and iron I like the driver better. I hit half bucket with each and the driver was more accurate than I hit with the iron ball going right where I wanted it mostly and I am a very high handicap so I will continue to use it and see what happens on course. Thanks
That’s awesome, glad you are finding some improvement. Cheers!
Thank you for your review. Glad I watched and changed my mind even on a used Straight stick.
UPDATE:
I looked at the club and I could see the small roundish magnet where the clicking ring sits when magnetized. I thought maybe if I rotated the magnet housing part to a different position that it might make a difference swinging without hitting a ball .. didn't make any difference, still couldn't get it to click with practice swings. Thinking that the magnet is too strong (stronger than yours .. maybe a fix to initial early shipments, I received mine in mid-June), I decided to add two small pieces of masking tape over the magnet to see if it would 'weaken' the magnet. Lo and behold, it started clicking as advertised. I'm still experimenting with this, but at least, it doesn't take '250mph' swing for me to get it to click with practice swings. This kinda verifies that the magnets in these are not consistent and that the early issues had weak magnets, while later ones had overly strong magnets.
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I've been having contact issues along with the dreaded shanks, so was hoping this would help with that.
My experience has been the opposite regarding the 'clicking'.
I found it very difficult to consistently ‘click’ even at the lowest speed, without hitting a ball. I have to really swing much harder than normal, even at the lowest speed setting, which does not work for me (or maybe it does indirectly by building up my swing speed .. IDK). Maybe the magnet is much stronger than yours .. I'm 69 with swing speed about the same as my age (geesus) .. 17 hcp.
For me, it would consistently click only when I hit a ball; however, it clicks regardless of my swing path, in-to-out or out-to-in and even at higher speed settings (not my swing normal speeds). I just don’t find that it helps me hit straight shots since it clicks regardless of swing path. I could still get it to click and shank the ball.
I will give it another few weeks or so of practice before requesting a refund .. not optimistic, but still open-minded about it. Thanks for your honest review.
Thanks for the update and information. There have been a lot of comments with people having varying experiences with the magnet, etc. Needless to say, but it seems there is probably some quality control issues for that "magical" click. But as you mentioned it will click no matter the path so it still doesn't really mean much in terms of swing plane. Cheers!
At least you're getting a click. My 6'4" 20 yo son cannot get the magnet to release on the 60 mph setting (or on any setting).
So the swing trainer to fix ALL swing issues perhaps maybe just so happens to have quality control issues also? I mean think about it.... this thing would have to be SOOOOO precisely calibrated for EVERY single (probably cheaply outsourced made from a certain country) Straight Stick being sold. We really think Performance Golf has someone testing the magnetic resistance for ALL of these things being produced.... anyways another thought rant there... Cheers!
Great review. Thanks for saving me the $139 and the time and effort associated with the expenditure. I love an honest reviews done by people without a dog in the hunt. I have long known that a product can sell if it is marketed convincingly, regardless of how well it works. I hope Rocco put some coin in his pocket for his full throated endorsement. I am not sure how it helps, but I did Subscribe to reward your work.
It does help a lot for us small timers! I really appreciate it, happy holidays!
Thanks for an honest review. Liked and subscribed!
Awesome, thank you!
Clever, entertaining and informative. According to your review Rocco is either willfully lying or he was handed a defective device. As for Mr. SG and Cogorno…big disappointments.
It’s hard to flat out know if they are intentionally lying about it… but I’m sure their bank accounts don’t care either way. Cheers!
Great review / nice production!!! thanks
Thanks, I spend a lot time doing these videos... means a lot. Cheers!
Earned a follow. Great edit work (and the content is good too).
Much appreciated!
I’m wondering if you just got a bad one with a really weak magnet or something. A weak magnet is the only thing I can think of that would cause it to release regardless of the swing speed. It’s hard for me to imagine this company, Rocco, and Eric Corgorno all risking their reputation on a scam product. Eric puts out good information and has a huge RUclips following. Just seems odd he would risk ruining that to make a few quick bucks on a worthless product. Mine is supposed to be here tomorrow. I struggle with an over the top swing path and was hoping this would help so we’ll see and I’ll let you know my experience. One thing is for sure, if this thing performs the same way yours did in this video I won’t hesitate to ship it back and never do business with this company again. I’m just hoping you got a bad one. Thanks for the review. 13:35
Hey Mike! It could be possible that mine is "defective", but I feel like that opens a whole other can of worms for this thing. Some people have commented with my same experience, others say they can't get it to release at all. I spent a lot of time watching the videos after I did the first livestream test of the SS. The truth is, you never see Rocco or Eric actually SWING the club with PURPOSE or hit a ball when demonstrating a poor club path. As more people get these I'll let Occam's Razor determined if they intentionally misrepresented the product. Please keep us updated, because ultimately I just want people to have information. Cheers!
Thank you for the video! You've earned a new sub!
Awesome, thank you!
There's a RUclips instructor who's recommending this thing. I can see how it might help with full extension thru the hitting area & getting your speed after impact but how could it help with swing plane? Plane is a relatively easy fix & you don't need to spend $140 to correct it. As for releasing lag at the proper time, you can make 1 of these for next to nothing & you already have the main part of it which is the club of your choice. You can use anything that will slide easily down the shaft & you don't need to use a full swing. Even a toilet paper roll will do. You can start the swing from hip high parallel to the ground as if you're hitting pitch shots. Just swing as you normally would, if the roll hits the clubhead before or at the ball, you know you've released too early. If it hits it after impact when your arms are extended, you're releasing properly thru the ball. It's only training for a proper release point & full extension after impact & nothing else. Again, if your wrists are set properly at waist high, that can be your swing starting point.
I agree with all your assumptions (and you didn't even need to buy it) after using it for a few weeks. My main issue with this device now is the misleading marketing and claims made by PG and their "affiliates" as you mention. Cheers!
The grip trainer is whst makes difference for me. I have another trainer that makes sound at bottom of swing. If you focus on swing with speed and clicks past impact your arms straight past impact with extension. The setting for swing speed nerds to be correct otherwise you can swing on any path. If it is set correct for your speed the click should be just after impact. The trainer has really helped me. Was a 6 handicap and now scratch to +1.
Glad to hear your success with it, that's awesome! Cheers!
My brother-in-law is making me something similar to the product that David Leadbetter hawks from the same company that distributes the Straight Stick. I had my bil get a Mylar plastic and I found some Hero Precision Darts from Five Below store. He is going to poke holes in the Mylar and insert wooden dowels in the Mylar, then place the darts on top of the dowels. Not only is it cheaper, I do not have to go and sign up for the subscription package that they have.
Thanks Emilio for the comment. I agree about their website and marketing approach... the "upselling" the sneaky subscriptions buried into the wall of "amazing" marketing claims. Very sketchy. Cheers!
You'd be better off getting two or three lessons with your local pro. Period. Fun video. Think I'll sub, like and hit the notification bell. ❤ 💯 👍
Thanks dude! Don’t forget to tell like 1000 other people and look up my coaching plans and I have merch coming too…. Hahah I’m just playing. I’ve looked up some “local pros” and it just makes me nervous. I’m scared they will just be… bleh lame. Anyways, cheers!
I don't own a Stright Stick, but from what I understand it is supposed to help with grip alignment as mentioned in your review, but the "click" is supposed to be in timing with hitting the ball. If you hear the click before hitting the ball than club is releasing to early and if hearing after, club is releasing too late. Maybe the too inside or too outside path has something to do with that?
I feel like that’s grabbing at straws because it’ll click for any reason and they specifically say it shouldn’t release when you “have a bad swing”. Timing the click is pretty irrelevant when you can have any path and face orientation. Cheers!
I paid for this the day before I saw your review. I got it today. It’s difficult to get it to click on mine. I set it at lowest setting, and still if I don’t swing through hard it won’t click. The grip training is fantastic imo. I think you got a bad one. I’m not upset for my purchase. I will say it does not hit the ball well after hitting 10 shots. Function is great though.
I’ve heard a few people say this as well as the same thing I’m experiencing. Seems possibly a quality control issue, which might be a whole other can of worms for this thing. Cheers!
You must have a defective unit. The clicker feature works great on my unit. It gets progressively harder or easier when moved up and down the shaft.
Defective unit perhaps, but I think the likely circumstance is that it doesn’t actually work in the manner it is being presented. Plenty of others have had same, different, or other inconsistencies and if you think about it the quality control would have to be insane to ensure every single magnet is actually to whatever “scientific” specifications they determined. Cheers!
I'm having trouble getting my SS to click also. Hitting it in the center of the face. Looked at all the videos and still have problems.
Thanks for the video saved me some $$$
Would love you to test the Straight Away from Performance Golf, and 2 Why Golf products; the weight shift board and the ArmAlarm please. I need a good iron training aid. Thanks! I am a new subscriber.
Really appreciate the support. I've had a look at it and I don't know... $80 just seems steep and its just the same old promises.... "Oh my just 10 swings and I hit perfect!" I think you can achieve similar results just filming your swing or just sticking a tee a few inches behind the ball and making sure you cross over it on the takeaway. Cheers!
The speed setting doesn’t stop the clicker from releasing if your speed is off. It’s there to time the click with ball impact so you can train your club release.
It’s a gimmick… the click means nothing before, at, or after impact and they’ve all said different things. Club face and path can be in any orientation.
What's your handicap? The reason I ask: It seems like you already have a good swing, which implies a pretty low handicap. If that's the case, you may not be the target audience for this club. If you already have a swing that is reliable and strikes the ball pretty well and consistently, this may not be for you and, in fact, might actually screw up your swing.
I'm a 20 handicap, mostly because of poor, inconsistent ball striking. I ordered this a few days ago, still waiting to get it. But I hope that I'm the target demographic: a golfer looking to improve ball striking. Also, the promotional videos mention it's not just about getting the magnet to release: it's about getting the magnet to "click" at the exact moment of impact. Finally, I view these as tools for the driving range, warm-up kind of things, like a heavy stick or something similar. And if nothing else, they're supposed to have a 365 days, no questions asked refund policy.
Hey Sean! So I’m currently around a 12 and I struggle with approach play with my irons mainly due to club path. Which is the main reason I bought this. They specifically mention club path and dispersion, which ultimately I believe was a false claim and misleading. I think it can benefit training grip and perhaps speed around the impact area. Hope you find some success with it! Cheers!
The best review so far is the guy called “Mr. short game”. His is much more straightforward, and I would say honest.
agreed. that review puts this one to shame
I would have considered it more “straightforward” if he actually tested it instead of pushing out an affiliate link to his 300k+ subscribers (to include me). But I’m sure his bank account doesn’t have much of an opinion about it. Cheers!
I like your humour, Bud..but I really really ♥ your editing. Your swing is great.. JUST S L O W it down like 10-15% bro - what's the rush?? Move further back like 2 inches ~ SwingSlow, take it back smoooove ~ Have a Cup of Tea at the top --- aaaand bring it down so that your inside-elbow Clicks with your waist right above the right trouser pocket. You are already plenty strong, so do it with steeze and ease, mate. I'm not an instructor but I have worked with PGA Pros and OEMs on the actual product side. The real learning comes from observing & interacting with the Champions/Senior tour members.I dig your swing practice set up. Please share details if u can. May the Universe continue to Smile on You 😎💪🎯⛳🎯
I like your flow, champ.. I think I’m just in the “paralysis by analysis” phase of my swing trying to break through some plateaus (and stop &/):)$&/ pulling it left). You’re right just need to be smooth and slow it down. Really appreciate the comment. My sim setup is here: ruclips.net/video/IsewWjlTF20/видео.html Cheers!
@@GolfOnTapHiya -- If it keeps going left, it might perhaps be as simple as flattening the lie of your irons by 2* or 3* I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS ALREADY hehe but sometimes "Occam's Razor" holds true!!! GOLF is a lovable but confusing, complex B**** -- it's like having a Supermodel as a GF -- U never rlly know what ur gonna get, day to day . Or it's more like that Forrest Gump box o' chocolates .. whatever example works for you LOLOL Peace,Love & Creme Brulee
6 minute mark you still have a pretty good follow through swing to make the Manet click.
Great review! Subscribed
Thanks so much, cheers!
Hi just bought it can't get it to click at all. Never swung a club so I thought it would teach me how to. Do you need to have experience all ready?
A couple of people who have swung mine had trouble getting it to click some times (even though I can click mine almost always). I'm no swing coach, but in general you want to feel the speed of your swing at the bottom. Think of it like you are trying to crack a whip... winding up the swing and popping it through the ball (I take no responsibility for said swing tips, please consult my legal team.... haha kidding). Cheers!
One thing I noticed about the test is that every time the click was happening before the the club struck the ball, meaning early release. I would have liked to see the testing continue until the click was synced with the moment of contact to see the difference.
I get it and I kind of cover this on my follow up video. The clicker will release basically on any swing path and if it contacts a ball or ground in any circumstance. So "timing the release" with the click on a -12 swing path is pretty much pointless. Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap 10.4! I'm thinking about getting the lag shot 7 iron bc it's very simple, no parts to manipulate with the club like the straight stick gadgets etc.
@@Barrett_Parker I have a review on the LagShot as well. I would overall recommend it, but its certainly not a silver bullet solution (at least for me). Hope you give it a watch. Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap cool deal I'll check it out! Thanks
The vibration of impact will always cause a click. Misleads you to think you're not early releasing, even when you could be, but at a downswing speed too low to release the clicker. Adjusting it perfectly would work IF you swing at exactly the same speed all the time.
Great video review with entertaining and informative.
I know what should i buy now.
Glad it was helpful! Cheers
2 things i didn't see is 1 actual club speed readings.
2 is the click has to be at contact your clicks sounded early
Mine actually helped with dispersion as well, this tool made me want to slow my swing down enough to look like Fred Couples. Trainers are just that, there is no substitute for the practice range.
That's awesome to hear, I still think it help you feel speed at the bottom of the swing also. Cheers!
This product reminds me of the 1980's Medicus hinged club. This Rocco club is just the same song different advertising.
I’m guessing the clicker isn’t supposed to be much harder by moving it up to faster speeds. It seems that it would make more sense that you just want to make sure the click is happening the same time as impact of the ball so you’re not flipping the wrist etc. Naturally a faster swing would need it to be further up the shaft for that timing to work out.
Hey Jeremy, this probably makes the MOST sense out of all the "timing theory" comments. Although this is never stated in any of the promo/training videos, they directly reference your swing speed in relation to getting it to release. However, I think people are missing the main point. The clicker will release almost in ANY circumstance once that speed it reached NOT only when you are "in the slot". So what exactly are you timing then? Nothing... you can still have any number of path and club face issues. The only the you are achieving is making a click that does not really signify anything at all. Thanks for the thought process, I hadn't considered it in that way. Cheers!
Oh I agree with you after seeing your video. It seems ridiculous that you were able to get it to click with all those different swings and slow swings etc. About the only positive I see in this club as a highschool coach would is the grip feature of being able to switch from neutral to strong etc, and give the kids a consistent grip to work with. I have other similar clubs, just not the grip adjustability.
That's basically where I landed with this thing. If I wanted to teach my better half how to grip and swing with speed through the impact area, it is a decent tool. The click is satisfying, I'll give it that credit. Best to you and your students, cheers!
Yea that’s exactly how it works, it’s not harder to get the magnet to release, it just takes longer click at impact. You want them to match.
Thanks 4 your testing of the club. U were fair about the claims etc. I have 1 got it today. wonder if PG will allow a 30 day trial?
I know when I bought it they said it was a 365 day return policy. Some people have commented and returned theirs. Although you have to pay for return shipping. Cheers!
I contacted the PG folks. Long story short. They told me to move that washer up and down a few times. Secondly, I did not know my swing speed. Their swing speeds are relative to using a driver. With that being said, I moved my swing speed to between 65 and 70. Remember to move the washer up on the shaft. I have been practicing Ben Hogan’s right elbow actually attached pretty darn close to the right hip. As I made the proper turn to the inside and not just to the ball, but threw the ball and finish high, which is actually somewhat outside. PG folks are easy to work with and if you look online about some demonstrations with the straight stick u tubes… there are some nay Sayers, and there are some yay, Sayers. I am a yeah sayer!
@@user-rd8hg4ev6p Happy you are finding success with it! My main issue is just the way its being marketing/sold as the "automatic A.I. powered swing trainer that solves all swing issues" when it actually basically does very little. Hit them well and straight, cheers!
Excellent. And not surprising :)
I actually DO like the MEDICUS hinged shaft club. Really does do a pretty nice job of training the left hand to be pronated at the top. For me that is the #1 swing key. 😊
I'll definitely give that one a look too and maybe give it a shot, thanks! Cheers!
Started to use my stick the last week. I am still unable to get the magnet to release. I also had my worst round of golf on Friday. Now I have seen your video and will be sending my stick back. Wish me luck at getting my refund.
The other part I never mentioned also is that this club and shaft isn't designed AT ALL for higher swing speed. So if the click is useless... the club/shaft is useless (for me at least)... the what is the point of even swinging it? Mine will be making a return trip as well within the "365 day money-back guarantee". Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap where did you guys get the info to send it back? thnx.
I bought it today and have a different issue. It did not click even below the 60 mile/hour setting. I set it two inches above the club head, still no clicking. 😢
I've heard a lot of varying experiences with this since I made these videos. I think quality control is also an issue. Cheers!
I inserted a thin fiberglass washer (split the washer) to get the magnet to release within normal swing speed range.
I saw this after I placed my order and was a bit worried, but I got mine today and wasn’t able to make it click.. so I guess mine works lol I did notice on the faq it said if you’re swing is really flipppy it will release the magnet on most swings even bad ones
I mean I’ve seen both sides from a lot of the comments now. Won’t release… releases all the time… which I think is just another indicator of either a quality control issue or poor design (not doing what they say it does). Cheers!
I am a 4 handicap and have swung the straight stick several times that a buddy has. it has helped him and to get a more consistent swing and be a better ball striker. I agree the click won't fix a bad swing plane but I believe for high handicappers the combination of the grip trainer and the click can help get a better grip and a more rhythmic swing. Having said that, personally I still think the best swing aid is weighted club with aq grip trainer grip just used to warm up before playing (assuming you can't have a nice 45 minute range session) and use some swing path aids on the ground (balls/shafts/plastic range buckets, whatever). Then again I always come back to Lee Trevino's favorite tip for amateur golfers; He gives the tip and then said, "oh and hitting 200 or 300 balls daily at the range doesn't hurt either"
I really appreciate the input Steve and ultimately that is where I also landed on the use of this product. I'm actually editing a follow up video right now (got to ride that RUclips wave) basically saying that. It's great for a beginner golfer to help groove a swing and simulate speed through impact. However, it is not marketed that way and it is misleading by PG and its affiliates. Cheers!
Actually looking at the reviews and watching the videos and being the amateur that I am it sounds as if it should be marketed as a timing aid
Looks like you saved me $139. I am trying to get back into golf and thought this thing might deliverer some real help. But looks like even as a warmup aid it just can’t deliver. So is there anything that might help? I do actually struggle lots with my grip. It just feels so unnatural to grip the club.
Hey Freddie! I've commented a couple times that I think this would be helpful for just your straight up new golfer who has never really swung a club. Outside of that, I do not feel it does much. For your grip issues, I would just order a Lamkin Grip Trainer (Amazon - $11) and slap it on an old or 2nd hand club so you can actually swing and hit balls. Hope that helps, cheers!
I am curious as to whether you watched the promotional material that came with the straight stick? I don't have the straight stick but was interested and watched the instructional material that comes with it and it's not as simple as it should click and that's it. The video state that the clicker should be clicking at the exact point of impact. When swinging too far from the inside or too far over the top most will have an early release or late release. In the video you could clearly hear your clicker clicking before you struck the ball. I'm curious as to whether you started training with the straight stick in that aspect and started trying to time up the click with your ball striking if it makes a difference and would hate to see somebody put off this product when in fact it could help if it was being used correctly. I may be wrong in it could be a gimmick like so many golf training aids are I would just like to see all the instructions being followed first before somebody writes it off as a gimmick.
This is a common comment thus far. I have watched all the promos and the training videos for this thing from PG and this too me just seems like grabbing at straws. The reality is the "compression clicker" will release with moderate speed in almost any circumstance despite their claims. Even Eric, Rocco, whoever also say it shouldn't click with an "early or late" extension, which is then contradicted in Mr. SG's video saying it released to early. Impact of the ball or ground will also make it click regardless of how the club was swung. Timing the click is irrelevant, it doesn't mean anything. It is literally only a measure that you swung the club fast enough to make a magnet release. Cheers!
Thank you so much for doing this!
You're so welcome! Cheers!
Have you checked out the board you stand on to shift your weight?
Great review! 🐊⛳️🦅🇺🇸👍🏻
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i've had the thing for a while and have only done air swings with it and i cannot get the click at all at any setting. i have not tried hitting a ball with it because i don't want to scratch it if i want to send it back. i'm a 12 hdcp. and do a more rotational pivot action swing and not a throw type action but i tried doing a throw type release and still no click. i'm gonna send it back if i can find an address and yes i think it's a bit of a gimmick scam.
From what I've heard they do honor the money-back guarantee, but you have to pay for return shipping as well. Cheers!
On the website, it tells you that you're not just looking to make it click, but it should click at the same time you hit the ball. It's not supposed to click if you cast the club, and I'm betting at lower swing speeds like most amateurs, that's probably the case. Even with an over the top swing, your demonstrator not only has a higher swing speed, but he probably still has good release, so it's going to click. Also, the speed setting is simply there because at higher speeds, the magnet is going to reach the end of the club faster, so you have to move the magnet farther from the end in order for the click to be timed correctly for the swing. I really don't think this was a good demonstration.
This has been a common critique and they have totally updated their mile long web page since this video... but still the click doesn't matter. It will and can release and click for almost any swing once enough force is met. The club path and club face can be in any direction and it will click. Even their own affiliates gave conflicting information on how it works. Their scientific "speed scale" are just hashes 1 inch apart... even if this was for "timing" I seriously doubt the difference between 60 to 90+ is three inches perfectly space apart. The initial marketing for this NEVER implied it is to only click at impact, they said it was an automatic A.I. driven swing trainer that will only click when you are in the magical slot leading to penetrating pin seeking missiles right on top of the flag, "Just make it click!" or "One swing trainer to fix all swing problems!" The grip trainer is decent, but after so many swing it fails as well because it cannot hold up to impact. You would be better off just putting a grip trainer on an old 7-iron for maybe $15 and you'll have a way better training device. Cheers!
Thanks for honest review 👍🏽
Always! Cheers!
I have the driver version of this and I cannot get it to click on a bad swing plane, I have tried on the slowest swing speed (when I can get it to click on a setting above the 100 line when swinging on plane). I think it may just be the magnet being looser on your iron straight stick because mine seems really strong compared to yours, like yours sseems like you give no effort and it clicks. So this comes down to for me quality which isn't a great sign for Performance Golf. Although their customer service is great and they will refund you up to a year, they should really make sure their product is built great.
Yeah, a lot of people have experienced different results from what I can tell in the comments. We all know these are being made cheaply in another country and I’m sure quality control isn’t at its highest. Cheers!
I’ve had mine for a week. Set it all over the range of speeds and made every type of swing possible. The magnet has never moved a single time in hundreds of swings. Every magnet has a different strength and I don’t think they have quality control of it. Very disappointed.
Yeah I’ve heard both sides with the comments. And when you really think about it… they would have to be soooo precise for every single stick to actually come close to any of the claims. Cheers!
same here.
Will give feedback after I get it..this week.
Please do! Cheers!
You just save me some $$$, thank you guys!!!
You're welcome.... make sure to spend it on something else golf related! Cheers!
Thx dude...saved me time and $$$😮
Awesome! Cheers!
I just received my Straight Stick 3-15-2024 and for the love of God, I can't get the magnetic ring to slide down to the bottom hosel. I must have a defective magnet / metal adapter. 🙄
Since filming this review I've had a lot of people comment this. I just actually wonder how in depth the quality control process is. We know these are made cheaply overseas most likely. Cheers!
Sounds like an Honest Review, as promised. Now can you review Lag Shot and Gabe Golf Trainers?
Hey there, I have a Lagshot review on the channel already. Hope you enjoy it. I'll look into the Gabe trainer. Cheers!
I think he was mislead on the swing plane info. Its more for the timing of click and contact to release through the ball
They have rebranded its "purpose" because it was misleading (imo). Check my part 2 video, cheers!
I can’t get it to click at a 100 and only sometimes at 90
Crazy, I basically haven’t found a way not to click it. Quality control issues also? Thanks for the info, cheers!
Same here. Mine does not release the magnet as easy as yours.
Thanks for the information now I can make a decision of whether to buy it or not. 👍👍
Glad I could help, cheers!
I like mine. I can’t make it click unless I have ball impact. I will say it’s overpriced though. I think the grip alignment great too. Pros are constantly working on their alignment.
Glad you are finding some success with it. We all just want lower scores at the end of the day, but companies certainly can exploit that. Cheers!
The vibration on impact will always get the magnet to release. It does nothing for diagnosing "early release" in your swing.
sure wish i would have found this video before i purchased… now lets see if they will honor the return promise! i😂😂😂
Give it a chance and see… let’s us know either way! I just wanted to give my honest take on it, you might find some success… cheers!
Much appreciate the review!
Thanks for the comment! Cheers!
Nice job guys! Next up the Hank Haney Launch Deck?
Just make me the go to golf gimmick channel and never actually improve, haha. Cheers! (Also it’s just me, I edited the video to make it seem like I was talking to myself… haha)
Thank you my friend you are a good man for this video you tell the truth 🙏
Thanks so much, cheers!
Thanks, I appreciate the video.
I wasn’t planning on getting this, or most of what performance golf sells, the clubs or anything else.
Anyone interested, the 2 things, well actually a few that have helped my game:
1) Garmin S10 watch, great automatic yardage. Ultimately free.
2) Voice Caddie 2 launch monitor, used $75
3) Power Plane pro with alignment sticks. $50. This will helps you swing on plane, no hook, no slice. You can also use it to keep your head steady and stop a sway.
4) magnetic directional thing. ($10) it helps with showing where you club is aligned.
5) Enhua golf swing trainer, like the orange whip, with a grip trainer device $30 helps to warm up and get your tempo right.
6) VLS golf system. $60 This is Todd Kolb’s Vertical Line Swing system this and other you tube videos have gotten me playing well. Driving dead straight over 100 mph and getting 265-275.
All in all, we have different styles and ways to get to the pin. Not all things work for everyone. I now swing more vertical than I used to, but it works for me.
Thanks Bowl! I'll give some of these a look because simply put... my swing needs some help.... haha. Cheers!