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  • @TacticalTortoise
    @TacticalTortoise  3 месяца назад +4

    NOTES: small typo in the Blood Angels list - I listed 2 Jump Chaplains but meant only 1 (the other JDC unit is lead by Lemartes). I also mention that Fervent Acclamation activates the Tannhausers Bones ability, but as many of you pointed out it actually only applies the *effect* of a Vow, doesn't actually activate it for the unit. I'll be editing that bit out.
    Thanks for watching and catching this stuff and keep bein' awesome ;)

  • @kirklemmen2494
    @kirklemmen2494 3 месяца назад +27

    As a Black Templar player, unless something has changed in the wording of the Fervent Acclamation and Bones (or a FAQ I missed), the enhancement checks if the vow is active for your army, not unit. So giving the unit access to Uphold does not unlock the second bullet point of a 5+ FNP.

    • @t1kosuave
      @t1kosuave 3 месяца назад +2

      This is still the case.

    • @CasuallyCarrots
      @CasuallyCarrots 3 месяца назад

      Yeah this list is wild but very, very abnormal even with a meta shift.
      - seal judiciar and t-Bone terminators are on the opposite ends of the spectrum and cannot get their second (better) abilities with a vow change strat.
      - foot slogging sword bros is almost unheard of, and he's does it for two squads (or one big one)

    • @kirklemmen2494
      @kirklemmen2494 3 месяца назад

      @@CasuallyCarrots most likely he is reserving the two small units and the big unit is in the Land Raider (or the other way around) so the amount of foot slogging is at a minimum

    • @CasuallyCarrots
      @CasuallyCarrots 3 месяца назад

      ​@@kirklemmen2494sure but that's still a 9" charge on a unit that has the defensive profile of 7.5 intercessors at 220-240ish points.

    • @kirklemmen2494
      @kirklemmen2494 3 месяца назад +1

      @@CasuallyCarrots I have used a list like this and a lot of times, I am not trying to charge the turn they come in (rapid ingress out of line of sight) and charging during my next turn

  • @mattwright8250
    @mattwright8250 3 месяца назад +12

    Great content buddy love your videos. Player Matt wright here and this was my first GT win. Super happy with how the list played and you were so right in how the stormsword preformed just pushing up with army. Your opponent needs to stop you and when they do the big boy gets its revenge.
    Thanks for the mention.

    • @TacticalTortoise
      @TacticalTortoise  3 месяца назад

      Dude congrats on the win! The list is super spicy and it's awesome to see success with cool builds like that 🎉

    • @DeidaraTriops
      @DeidaraTriops 3 месяца назад

      Hey cool list, on what Terrain Format did you play on? On wtc i find it impossible to field a baneblade Chassis effectively

    • @lordamnesia
      @lordamnesia 3 месяца назад

      Grats on the win with the Spicy Tank!

    • @mattwright8250
      @mattwright8250 3 месяца назад

      Hey bud, the terrain is very close to the UK ITC. The tournament uses crates.
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    • @mattwright8250
      @mattwright8250 3 месяца назад

      Thanks buddy

  • @beans6001
    @beans6001 3 месяца назад +5

    The most wild part of the custodes list was the fact thay he had that many sisters

    • @jasonbagley6948
      @jasonbagley6948 3 месяца назад

      I know right?! That’s an expensive list. Ridiculous

  • @Zakading
    @Zakading 3 месяца назад +5

    It is REALLY nice to finally see Knights having viable lists centered on the actual big knights and not just spamming Armigers

    • @Wes-xk6hl
      @Wes-xk6hl 3 месяца назад

      I'd prefer they were models I actually own. But ill take what I can get

    • @Zakading
      @Zakading 3 месяца назад

      @@Wes-xk6hl Armigers have been basically the only way to play any Knights army for 2 editions now, it's nice to actually see the namesake models of the army in use again.

    • @Wes-xk6hl
      @Wes-xk6hl 3 месяца назад

      ​@Zakading right, love it. But since everyone is using the forgeworld models, I don't have them and can't even proxy them cause they're bigger
      Usually u can proxy any other big knight with whatever big knights u happen to have cause theyre same base and virtually the same size

  • @40KStoics-pu2fb
    @40KStoics-pu2fb 3 месяца назад +4

    I played the Necron list at the Birmingham event. One of ther things that players might not appreciate is how tall the Tesseract Arc is. Its a subtle thing but this means it can shoot into units hiding in terrain much more easdily especially with the Hyperphasing jump at 3 inches. No where is safe!

    • @TacticalTortoise
      @TacticalTortoise  3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah it's crazy big - fits in a lot of weird areas you wouldn't expect too since it hangs over terrain a lot

  • @lordamnesia
    @lordamnesia 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for doing this, ever since the CharityHammer guys had to take a break from streaming on Mondays I've been looking for someone to run the lists down in the mornings, and you do it well!

  • @felixbrenninkmeijer7053
    @felixbrenninkmeijer7053 3 месяца назад +2

    Love your vids. Josh Robert's list is incorrect, it's 1x3 nurglings

  • @BloodBuffalo
    @BloodBuffalo 3 месяца назад +5

    John The Blood Angels commander won a GT and no list breakdown? A youtuber won a GT give the man some love he's one of you. Guys been trying to get a GT win loyalty to the faction for years

  • @CH-pd6lw
    @CH-pd6lw 3 месяца назад +2

    Think you are missing a land raider from the DA list?

    • @공대갈-i4j
      @공대갈-i4j 2 месяца назад

      Calculated myself, replace the rhino with redeemer and you've got 1990pts

  • @shaunhannon
    @shaunhannon 3 месяца назад +2

    Great video as always. Appreciate what you do!

  • @Damnedlegion40k
    @Damnedlegion40k 3 месяца назад +1

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  • @Robotech2049
    @Robotech2049 3 месяца назад +1

    I bet several or more of these tournaments were using Leviathan rules.

    • @TacticalTortoise
      @TacticalTortoise  3 месяца назад +1

      All of the tournaments I listed this week were explicitly using Pariah rules
      I exluded many that listed Leviathan missions or didn't list the mission sets they were using.

    • @Robotech2049
      @Robotech2049 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TacticalTortoise ok cool

  • @zack11189
    @zack11189 3 месяца назад +1

    Is one of the vehicles on the dark angels list wrong? Cause theres 140 points left unused with that list and none of those vehicles can take either the eradicators or knights

    • @zack11189
      @zack11189 3 месяца назад

      I accidentally calculated 6 jump intercession but yea that rhino is supposed to be a redeemer

  • @JackDespero
    @JackDespero 3 месяца назад +1

    I tried to copy the Astra Militarum list to tinker with it, but isnt it 5 points over 2000? Removing Grand strategist from the command squad solves the problem, but that also makes them considerably less effective.

    • @OrrgunUK
      @OrrgunUK 3 месяца назад +2

      Make sure you're app is updated, I've got the list in the official gw app and it's 2k on the nose.

    • @JackDespero
      @JackDespero 3 месяца назад +2

      @@OrrgunUK I use New Recruit and it seems completely up to date at least from what I can tell. Maybe I did one of those things of adding some very closely named unit instead of the intended one, etc. If y'all are finding that it is 2000 then I must have done something wrong myself.

  • @CasuallyCarrots
    @CasuallyCarrots 3 месяца назад +1

    The Wargames Con BT list is wild but very, very abnormal even with a meta shift. Grats to him but some things i noticed yesterday 'watching' the list on BCP:
    - seal judiciar and t-Bone terminators are on the opposite ends of the spectrum and cannot get their second (better) abilities with a vow change strat. The vow must be active foe the army. And i very much doubt youd want to remove the FNP from a 480 terminator brick (which will have zero FNP if the seal is ever active)
    - foot slogging sword bros is almost unheard of, and he's does it for two squads (or one big one)

    • @Onkel_Ranger
      @Onkel_Ranger 3 месяца назад

      Picking vow according to the enemy i guess.

  • @AnthonyTTL
    @AnthonyTTL 3 месяца назад +1

    Love the Monday recaps

  • @triplea657aaa
    @triplea657aaa 3 месяца назад

    New missions format is good for T'au. Secret missions also REALLY benefit Kauyon T'au.

  • @tabdoine5305
    @tabdoine5305 2 месяца назад

    This black templars list is 1820 points, no idea what other units Matthew played, but I would add 2 bt impulsors for a round 2000 points so that each bretheren squad has a transport

    • @tabdoine5305
      @tabdoine5305 2 месяца назад

      Edit: nvm, now I hear that Helbrecht is also in this list, just not on the characters list

  • @pandamarshmallow8081
    @pandamarshmallow8081 3 месяца назад +1

    1like per minute

  • @thelegendsmith3063
    @thelegendsmith3063 3 месяца назад +1

    No orks or spacewolves I'm flabbergasted

    • @Chadthed1ckchamp
      @Chadthed1ckchamp 3 месяца назад

      Bullyboyz got destroyed, pretty sure they got a 5+ FNP now instead of 4+ and mega nobz had a huge point increase

  • @Cornerboy73
    @Cornerboy73 3 месяца назад

    Asmodai leading a team of Fallen... er... Inner Circle Companions that are sworn to silence is hilarious. I can't help but wonder if they are winking and making funny faces at him behind his back LOL !

  • @burkitt2464
    @burkitt2464 3 месяца назад

    Did GSC get even close to an undefeated list?

  • @azir64
    @azir64 3 месяца назад

    I just want to know which unit the lieutenant and judiciar join in the black templar list
    Cant find an eligible unit...

    • @tabdoine5305
      @tabdoine5305 2 месяца назад

      They can join primaris Sword bretheren

  • @SumsieBun
    @SumsieBun 3 месяца назад

    Do we know if the Tau or Militarum players used secret missions in their games?

    • @mattwright8250
      @mattwright8250 3 месяца назад

      Hi @SumsieBun. I was the guard player and yes I used secret Mission once. And was the one to hold the 3 objectives in no man’s land at the end. This won me the game.

  • @tErminal32015
    @tErminal32015 3 месяца назад

    How does that Custodes army even work? With the Telemon its 2020pts, without (as shown) it's 1805? Am I missing something?

    • @tErminal32015
      @tErminal32015 3 месяца назад

      The list is actually 2x9 vigilators

  • @Takkun5656
    @Takkun5656 3 месяца назад

    Is a Neurotyrants w/ zoanthropes an infantry unit?

  • @Powaup
    @Powaup 3 месяца назад

    Expected space wolves up there

  • @epicrouter5892
    @epicrouter5892 3 месяца назад

    Immolators don't provide Fire Support anymore :(

  • @grimdarkthirty2632
    @grimdarkthirty2632 3 месяца назад

    WGC used the MFM update but not Pariah mission set btw. Great GT will be back next year.

    • @TacticalTortoise
      @TacticalTortoise  3 месяца назад +1

      Weird; event listing specified they were using the most current mission set.

  • @KeyvanArian
    @KeyvanArian 3 месяца назад

    how do you get 510 (3*170) points of war dog brigands in a 2000 pts game (deathguard)?

    • @aurixos5405
      @aurixos5405 3 месяца назад

      Its written specificly in Chaos knights that you can take either one big one or up to 3 small ones.

    • @KeyvanArian
      @KeyvanArian 3 месяца назад

      @@aurixos5405 thank you!

  • @Maevola
    @Maevola 3 месяца назад

    Have i missed something? The Rubric Marines as allies to the renegade raiders CSM shouldnt benefit from their detachement ability right? As they dont have the heretic astartes keyword.

    • @kunakic1499
      @kunakic1499 3 месяца назад +3

      I believe it is an army rule, where the khorne berserkers, rubric marines, and plague marines if taken in a CSM list, replace their specific faction keyword for Heretic Astartes.

    • @Maevola
      @Maevola 3 месяца назад

      @@kunakic1499 huh, App doesnt say so, but thank you. That would explain it

  • @t1kosuave
    @t1kosuave 3 месяца назад

    BT List won playing Levisthan Missions

  • @DmanDrums
    @DmanDrums 3 месяца назад

    Multiplicative ??

  • @arbitrary_mike7833
    @arbitrary_mike7833 3 месяца назад

    Custodes* are back!
    * Sisters of Silence

    • @aalagerwaard
      @aalagerwaard 3 месяца назад

      how tf did this win ? is it really just tanks + canis rex... oh and a heavy dreadnought that wasn't listed on screen

    • @arbitrary_mike7833
      @arbitrary_mike7833 3 месяца назад +1

      @@aalagerwaard my guess is the SoS focus on scoring and denying actions by battle shocking everything while Canis, Tanks, and the Dread are responsible for removing enemy units. Dread is also probably solid for standing on objectives and tanking some.

    • @cartledge_uk
      @cartledge_uk 3 месяца назад

      ​@@arbitrary_mike7833 Can't score if battleshocked. I've run a similar list in trial, was hoping no-one would rumble the possibility

  • @malekith13
    @malekith13 3 месяца назад

    That custodes list is 2020 points if there is indeed a telemon not written in it...

    • @Spartan8950
      @Spartan8950 3 месяца назад

      Yea I'm so confused about that list

    • @EldenLean
      @EldenLean 3 месяца назад +1

      I think the vigilator squads are 9 models per unit, not 10. That should fix it :D

  • @mephisto114
    @mephisto114 3 месяца назад +1

    Is this leviathan GT ? or Pariah Nexus ?

  • @ravelzxcvb
    @ravelzxcvb 3 месяца назад

    great stuff

  • @LowcaCzarownic
    @LowcaCzarownic 3 месяца назад +1

    Eldars... at last overnerfed.

  • @treant88
    @treant88 3 месяца назад +1

    The change too BiD is a bigger change for tau than any points change

  • @gilgamesh000
    @gilgamesh000 3 месяца назад

    comon man, super cool to see anathema psykana perform as adeptus custodes codex ? pffffffffffff if i want play potato chips, i buy adepta sororitas...........

  • @mtrunkello
    @mtrunkello 3 месяца назад

    How did that dark angels list win i have no idea. You can delete the eradicators with a 6 man inceptor squad easily. So can you do the same to companions that have no invus.

  • @BoomstarPrime
    @BoomstarPrime 3 месяца назад

    Oh look not a single ork list who da thunk it

  • @Paranormal-Stupidity
    @Paranormal-Stupidity 3 месяца назад +2

    Congratulations GW! Codex space marines is now the very worst faction in the game!! Funny how nerfing them didn't do anything to tone down the divergent chapters. It's almost like everyone said this would happen.

    • @mortenbrandtjensen6470
      @mortenbrandtjensen6470 3 месяца назад +1

      It's 1 week. People needs to find time to play and time to find their footing.
      It's early to draw conclusions.

    • @Venom152
      @Venom152 3 месяца назад

      Deathwatch: hold my beer.