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Firstly Ashoka didn't renounce violence! He renounced war! There are Buddhist proofs itself which say he slaughtered Jain monks for clashing with Buddhists!Also Chandragupta maurya the grandfather of Ashoka was from a lower Varna ! Yet accepted as a king! The British and partly the society created the differences for which dharma can't be blamed!
Even, Ashoka was a practicing Buddhist during kalinga war....
Chandragupt Maurya is mentioned as 139th generation of Lord Krishna's family. Due to Ashoka The Maurya Empire have been collapsed after his death Just in 5 decades.
After becoming thin there will be no lower Varna or upper Varna
Yes,now everyone trying to be a historian.great
Buddhist sources aren't supported by any major scholars as all of them seem inconsistent . So your garbage comment has been debunked. Don't how did you get these many likes
Manuscript was introduced in 5th century. so caste system nothing to do with the mouryas.
This video is basically a criticism of Ashoka, largely largely inspired from the works of Romila Thapar. But then it’s not like Romila Thapar is “the most unbiased” historian there is. 🤷🏻
Just being neutral and not appeasing into united hindu sentiment is not being biased. If your point of origin is no matter what united hindu bharat then nobody can come to a conclusion. Where you will force buddhists and jains look like students of hinduism.
Are you trying to say what is written in rock edicts is false?
I’ve read amply about Ashoka and no denying he did all those massacres even after his alleged conversion. But historians like Thapar take the good written about Ashoka with a pinch of salt (or a handful rather) while they take the negatives at face value. There is an undeniable bias: we don’t say that Alauddin Khilji built roads and tanks, but then any other ruler would have done the same. Historians appreciate the architectural legacies he left behind, same for any other ruler. But with Ashoka there is a deliberate attempt to just oppose the earlier narratives of him being generous. Pushyamitra Shunga ascended throne soon after the Mauryas, what is his legacy? We don’t see any milestone achievements there: so if Ashoka did leave behind an indelible achievement, it wouldn’t hurt to recognise it. And in the general course of development of the subcontinent, agriculture expanded and urbanisation spread after the Mauryan period, so post Mauryan period will definitely be more prosperous than the former. The international relations established by the Mauryas reaped dividends in the later centuries after their rule, when the converted Buddhist nations actively began seeking India for trade and cultural exchange, more so than older times. So the argument of Mauryan rule lacking prosperity is also very biased. And every ruler in history has walked a tightrope, even Akbar the Great known for his religious tolerance imposed and abolished Jiziya several times, and he even massacred Hindus during his siege of Chittor. That doesn’t mean I hate or love Akbar. He was a historical figure and I appreciate him only for his achievements. But some historians cannot do the same with Ashoka, simply because they feel Ashoka “the generous” represents a certain political narrative. No. There have been no ideal kings or queens anywhere in the past; but there certainly have been those who strived to attain and preach certain ideals of a utopian society, and that is the greatest legacy people like Ashoka leave behind.
@Roman Emperor Lucius Domitus Aurelianus Also Hindus always want to be victims of everything. What do nature do to life who victim play...make them prey to the predators!! You can't fight and protect your own people and grow some balls to invade others, you deserve to be uprooted and made forever indentured servants of your masters who are good invaders...Gangheis Khan is the father of modern humanity. 1 in 200 men carry his genes directly. This didn't happen cause he acted victim in life...
True basically for diminishing his status... A work done by leftist.. He certainly was Greatest.
To know about Ashoka you need to learn right from the beginning of Mauryas Dynasty, how Aacharya Chanakya and Chandragupt counter the Alexander invasion in Indian subcontinent . Their combined efforts make India as Akhand Bharatvarsh means United India. Then you know about the legacy Mauryas and Ashoka the great . One of the great emperors of all time.
Hey bro alexander isn't even mentioned in indian texts
@@abhishek9852 wtf
@@abhishek9852 wow.....
KING PORUS confronted Alaxander
Bro sikanadar is mentioned,@@abhishek9852
This story was the western version, they changed it completely to show that no Indian kings were good. To make us think that western colonialism is better. You should rewatch it from the indian channel.
Ye... Kuchh bhi
Romilla thapad is a communist so that's what history you will get.
Actually it was an Indian channel
This may have been much about the negatives but it's not fake.
Kings those days were crazy, we can never idolize anyone from the history. Everyone has done wrongs, killed innocents, married more than one woman etc etc
Every ruler or ruling country, which ruled India always had greed. They exploited us, but in some ways helped us too at the cost of that exploitation.
The ideal ruler only exists in our holy books, like Shri Ram. Even Arjun when on a rampage to get Shri Krishna's sister nd Shri Krishn himself allowed that. We can't take that for good, not atleast in today's time.
Just adopt nd preach nd follow the good from everywhere, for one aim.. Humanity.
This is actually a true history
There was no concept of today's religion in those days.. It was basically like following the principles that best suited the times.
Even successors of Ashoka followed Jainism, and later some followed Sanatana dharma(Hinduism) too...
Basically as the religion was not a concept up until India was invaded by Persians... India was very open to different kinds of principles and were followed on their suitability with the society of that period.
His successors were buddhist not jain and buddhist were slaughtered by a brahmin named pushyamitra shung
@@anshumantripathi1479 correct 💯
@ this is where you are wrong. Hindus are Aryans foreigners
@@peanut5074 ignore arpan
@@anshumantripathi1479 Samprati, grand son of Ashoka, the emperor of Maurya.. Was a Jain...
fun fact :- Ashoka comes from the same place where both Jainism and Buddhism emerged! That place, my home used to be a big power center in the past! Buddha was born in Nepal but got enlightened in Magadh, the state of Ashoka! It also was a great educational center where ancient astronomy, astrology and many other topics were taught. And the invent of "0" happened there too along with many many other advancements. But the place is in shackles now.
One thing that’s not mentioned here is about the famous “Ashoka Stambh or the pillars” .. he built multiple pillars all over the world - with inscriptions on Buddha’s teachings. One of the proofs that he spread Buddhism as far as he could.
It is mentioned
84000 stupa, leni & vihars were built, many were covered up & turned into hindu temples...
I want to fulfill his dream
Ok
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Hindu...... To ... Bhudha next generation
Have you not watched the video?
This guy has personal hatred for Ashoka 😂.. not accurate and it is not called "converted", its called he choose "the different way" because budhism have come from hindusism. Former Indian kingdoms were more powerful than Alexander and no one dares to attack the Indian subcontinent because of It was the superpower of that time.
Buddhism never comes from Hindunism Both are two different things. And please Hindu is not an religion it's an culture. Your hindu religion is base on mythology and religion is base on natural laws and makeing simple mankind, your religion have millions of god we don't believe in concept of god's, and he is right because there is no scientific and archaeological evidence that tells us that your religion is in existence during Ashok period. Your all Vedas written by Bharaman, but Bharaman are not an Indian 2017 DNA reports says that.
@@Trevor00 tell me bro what is your doubts. 🙌🏻
@@sidhantkamble5191 😂😂😂😂😂😂Everyone think that his religion is great... Islamic people say their religion came first, Christians say their religion is only true religion, Hindus say they are oldest religion but ambedkarites be like nahii bhai hum bolenge buddhism sabka source hai... Har religion buddha ne banaya hai kyonki chota bhim bol ke gaya😂😂😂
@@corerealist9802 archeological surveys bolte hai Buddhism ke baare mein hawe mein baat nhi krte koi, Nalanda University takshshila University baat krte hai Buddhism ke baare mein Chinese traveller baat krte hai Buddhism ke baare mein H.G wells baat krte hai Buddhism ke baare mein saare hindus propaganda aur sirf apne kitabo Ko propagate krte rehte hai jabki Buddhism carved Kiya hai rocks pe seal pe even indus valley civilization mein STUPAS mile hai 🙄 mandir nhi teko Pali samjti hogi toh jaakr padhle stamba mein fhaiyan ne jaise Apne kitab mein likha waise hi saare structure mile this proofs it's the strongest source amongst all aur kya Chahiye BC tumko?? Bs Buddhism Ko khatam krne ki koshish krte hai chutiyas
@@mukulwalke2889 😂😂😂😂😂😂lol... Carl Sagan, Neil Bohr etc etc kai scientists hinduism ki tareef karte hain,kai scientists christianity ki tareef karte hai,kai philosphers islam pasand karte hai... That doesn't make any religion great... Lol...kai escavations mein hindu temples aaj bhi milte hai... Foreign mein kai escavations mein church ke remains milte hai....don't be a whining child who wants own toy to be the best....Top 3 religions in the world are Islam, christianity, hinduism... Buddhism is 4th.... 😂... Chinese travellers ki baat kar rahe ho chinese ne laat maar ke bhagaya buddhists ko tibet se lol chinta mat karo next dalai lama mao zedong ka follower hoga😝.. Aur tum hindu aur buddhist se hum athiests ki population jyada hai to phir hum great hai... 🤣Chota bhim bhi heaven/hell agar hai to wahan se tum log ko religion ke peeche ladte dekh ke rota hoga..
I can't stand this analysis at all..is just pure propaganda of diminishing and degrading Eastern or oriental history.... I'm saying after learning history for more than 13-15 years and reading many different sources of historiography...from Marxist to nationalist to secular to british imperialist historiography
Did I just hear the video say he was a terrible terrible man?? He was one of the most efficient ruler of India. Infact his wife was a big supporter of Buddhism and so was his brother. His inclination to Buddhism simply didn’t happen seeing kalinga war. He treated the Buddhist leaders who came to his kingdom with at most respect and gave them lands to establish their religion just as he was respectful towards all religions. His hesitation to marry her wasn’t because of caste but because his ministers wanted him to marry a princes for the good of the kingdom. I have never heard anyone call king Ashoka , Ashoka the terrible. But when Kalinga war happened and he saw a mother with a child who gave him a piece of her mind saying the war was terrible. Jeez this is the most under researched video I have seen. He was called Ashoka the great not Ashoka the terrible. During his reign education, economy etc flourished. He was the most successful ruler after chadragupta Maurya in that dynasty.
चंड अशोक. Ashoka the terrible.
Well he was terrible
Just do a google search u will know about it
It is said that he was a sadistic ruler
@@vikata5499 see the thing is chand doesn't mean Terrible, rather it means the one who gets angry easily..so Don't go for always western perspective..
@@user-ij1dq9fr5i terrible means who is very upset। Common adjective used for characters like Ashok
When I saw Romila Thapar as a reference point at the end I immediately understood why Ashoka was vilified to that extent. Had these been the Mughals, they would've come up as the most tolerant leaders whitewashing all their crimes.
Agreed.. Romulus Thapar is not a true historian
Yes
I stopped watching the video as soon as I saw your comment... Thanks man!
@@sangeetmc she is distordian
yes agreed
Caste system was basically where you deserve to belong according to your capabilities so if you are capable to be a Brahman and do the job you can become a Brahman but I guess after Britishers came or before it something went off and switching from your caste was restricted and was based on which caste family you were born in
Manusmriti be like : am i joke to you?
@@dailydose3927 bhagwat geeta and upnishad be like ;- i am joke to you 😂😂
Caste system was created by upper caste brahmin
Before the Britishers came, I think, WELL BEFORE. The system was well established before they arrived. The British looked askance at the caste system though they did not actively do anything to break it down as we might wish they had and possibly as THEY might have wished to do. They disliked the caste system and certainly did nothing to consolidate it.
I am always impressed by Achara's wisdom and her intuitions are mostly right.
you mean appeasement of your ego! She does it really well..
@@richcohen5936 😂
@@richcohen5936 first off all video is half baked story written by leftist historians who hates Hindus loves barbarians like mughals ottoman etc
2nd we don't want your pitty we want sorry what your British empire and Islamic empire did here
As Jaby is curious about facts
He has more potential than anyone else
Britishers and Mughals tried to change the whole system... In caste system it was written that a person is belong to the caste where his/her heart or his/her karma takes them....
Takshila was the first and biggest University of that time in the world.... It has almost 2500+ faculties....
exactly.. the cast system has been turned into this malicious attempt at segregating people and forcing them to stay in the same caste as their father was in...the original cast system allowed a person to choose whatever cast he wanted to belong in
@@Siddhx1 right.... In Bhagvad Gita, krishna stated that.... But they changed the whole thing to break the Hindu community.... So they called bhramins as the torturing class for shudras... The reality is all 4 classes are interconnected to each other
@@casual_GamerHQ EXACTLY AND WHATS EVEN MORE SAD IS PEOPLE LITERALLY HAVE NO IDEA OF THE ORIGINS OF THE CASTE SYSTEM LIKE WHAT IT AIMED TO DO ITS SO SAD
Don't try to blame your forefathers wrong doings on Britishers..the caste system is there since long before
@@anirudhsawant353 brother problem is you never studied any hindu scriptures... You just listen any jali cap person and spit that here... Please read first... otherwise you never understand what Hinduism is... Caste system is just a minor part of this sanatan Sanskriti
You should hear the Buddha story siddhartha became monk and give his emperor to his son he went to the forest and started maintaining peace alot people was jealous with him and wanna kill him but he always showed positivness and stay calm so everyone became his devotees and here this monk was Buddha he made his own ideology and people started follow him.
And Siddhartha gautam was a ruler and an Indian even he was hindu.
Lol kuch bhi
Ashoka was not Buddha
@@dakshtiwari3027 ashoka was not Buddha. Buddha was Siddhartha gautam. He was an Indian and hindu...
Hands Down To The Greatest ( in true meaning ) Emperor of All Time From Land Of Emeperors Magadh ( Bihar ) Jai Bhumihar Babhan 🚩💪🔥
Buddha rejected Hinduism
@@MostIgn0red I know but you've written that he was Buddha
India was Buddhism empire for more than 1000 years according to Amartya Sen ( Noble award)-
ChandraGupta Maurya was not Hinduism he was follower of Jainism.
Emperor Asoka was the first emperor who introduces- Animal rights, freedom of believes, build hospitals and schools for his subjects.
Maurya empire have 10 emperors Asoka was 3rd emperor of Maurya dynasty.
Push MITRA SUNGA (who killed millions of Buddhism ☸️) from India, assassinated Emperor BAHIDRATH, last emperor of maurya dynasty.
Before the British we had the Varna system, which classifies people based on the WORK they do. Teachers and spirituals were called brahmins, protectors were called Kshatriyas, traders were called Vaishyas and others but not less significant being shudras etc. It is very much possible to jump from one varna to other, based on the interests of the individual. For e.g. Ravana the main villain in Ramayana was supposed to be a brahmin but he turned out to be kshatriya and a rakshasa, Valmiki the author of Ramayana was from a Shudra varna, but turned into a Brahmin and wrote the Ramayana. Sage Vishwamitra was a kshatriya but transformed into a brahmana, and pursued spiritual life. And many more such examples.. British introduced the caste system, and `highlighted' the differences among people based on their colour and practices, to divide the people.
Well said 👌👌👌👏👏👏👏
@Takumi Usui Give me the name bro
During Gupta empire, Fa hien notes that untouchables live outside villages. Whenever they enter the town, they strike a piece of wood to announce their arrival so others may avoid them.
Katyayan, a smriti writer was the first to use the expression 'Asprasya' to denote untouchable.
@@animalmasti4991 caste system based on birth was finalized by Manusmriti. Before Manusmriti, caste was based on work.
2000 years of inequaity.what you say about it .its hindu upper casts responsible for caste system brutilty ,not the britishers.
There is story about the Kalinga war .When the war happened and thousands died the river that flown near by , named as "Dayaa " turned red from the blood of the warriors . Upon sighting the vicious outcome of his hunger for Power made him realise his mistake.I am from Odisha btw which is also known as Kalinga or used to be known as.
Love from Pataliputra, Magadha 😉
He accepted Buddhism , 4 years earlier the Kalinga war, and the story of realisation is all made of, even there are some monuments written , how he warns Kalinga , for not getting in his way, or else can shed the blood one more time.
He never realized his mistakes, he kept killing till end of his life
Jai jagannath
@@वायुः we have taken revenge from Patliputra , so ya we can be friends 😒
There was a cast system available in the entire Indian Subcontinent. However, more than religion, this cast system was based on the type of work you choose to do for living,
There were mainly 4 types of work cast.
1. Brahman represents upper intellectual jobs that include a high level of intelligence or knowledge. Considering current time, it's more like management jobs or more in science and technology along with religious practices.
Known as job of creator.
(I can debate on religious practice considering in this particular type)
Example teachers, scientists, engineers, doctors, etc.
2. Kshatriya represents the job related to army or patriotism. Known as a job of protectors or destroyers.
Example - King and army, fighters and warriors, etc.
3. Vaishya represents the job that provides entertainment to people or society.
Example - theater actors, circuses, tournament organizations, prostitution, etc.
4. Shudra represents the most important job as cleaning up the kingdom or state or town or village. Job like labors, cleaners, slaves, etc.
When Britain came to India, they did translation of many scripture, which, psychologically wrong, which later got imposed and released publicly having described in detail cast system based on religiously. Intentionally or unintentionally, it does impact very badly on Indian culture, and ever since Indian people started fighting based on this wrong education socially. Now, there were many people in India at that time who I consider guilty upon their silence or trying get personal benefit out of it.
There are so many points that I can debate on, and I do know Jainism very closely along with Buddhism as a matter of personal beliefs, so I know the particular history since I was a child.
Thanks.
Caste system was there from Vedic period,it was at its peak during Gupta Empire (after mauryan empire) ,British used this to their advantage to divide and rule
@Choose Bliss tell me the difference if you know,Varna is based on what u do and caste is something that is by birth
British use divide and rule on religion basis but Hinduism itself was divided into 4 varnas way before
Caste word comes from Spain Casta. There is difference between caste and verna . caste system is myth created by Britishers and invaders they wants to divide indian society and collect taxes , gold .
Caste system was formed only after Manusmriti.
What suggests that caste a part of Hinduism ??
Caste system wasn't introduced by Britishers... Is it said so by people who oppress people on the basis of caste 😅
Firstly, ashoka really looks great that's why people call him ashoka priyadarshi and he killed his brother in self defence. They hate him and killed his mother and try to kill ashoka too for throne ...... Ashoka didn't kill him for throne...... And he is one of the greatest warrior and king of the world, he left his throne...... Because he killed too much people in kalinga battle and after wins he found he only won people dead body and he also found his lover was queen of kalinga so he realize he shouldn't attack there. He found himself guilty. then. he dicided to return their kingdom...... And never fight and kill anyone again after that he left everything he achived and practice of Baudhism and spread Baudhism everywhere.....
Believe me no one can beat him...... He is unbeatable king of history........... After kalinga battle he spread peace everywhere........... He was one of the king who believe in take part in battle. it's shows he was a great warrior..........
Looks like your source of information is ’Asoka’ the shahrukh khan starrer movie? Let me tell you, historical Bollywood movies are all historically inaccurate. Go read some books written by reliable historians.
Watch Abhijit chavda video on Ashoka
@@nishantsingh6679 itne bhi buree din nahii aaye ki uss chuytiye ki video dekhenge
😂😂😂😂 dude it's Bollywood story.
Pick the positives and Drop the negatives. This is the only way when it comes to learning from people's personality.
Samrat Ashok was one of the greatest emperors of India who kept the "Akhand Bharat" alive at his best.
Even today even after we lost Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Bhutan, and many other lands which were a part of India, we carry the learnings of Ashok with us in multiple ways which governs us as "Indians" or "Bhartiya "
"Pick the positives and Drop the negatives." One can learn from both aspects. No need to cherrypick.
Really, can you drop the negatives ?
@@appy01-y5z Sometimes yes. I know that's tough
@@amoghverma3108 i mean I can name some horrible people ever lived right now , would you ignore theirs negatives?
@@appy01-y5z I'm talking about learning from people. Not knowing them...
If I have to learn something from a person, I'd try to learn the good aspects only.
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4:22 Cast system is not invented by British. actually..
From Hindu timeline 3.8 million years has passed and cast system added just 5000-6000 thousand years ago in near lord Krishna era and he mentioned in Bhagwat Gita that religious leader misused their accountability😊
Thanks to raise this question jaby without fear of trolling you are honest guy😊🙏
There was no mention of caste system in bhagwat Gita and caste system existed but it was not followed radically of was British who made it to divide and rule india as they made aryan invasion story india has a complex system of gotras and varnas
My question is that if there was no mention of caste system in bhagwad Geeta then why people practiced or maybe practising caste system today?.....don't they know that God never told this?.... because followers of caste system are not least people they are in majority
@@Lucifer-jr5ye it is mentioned in manusmriti and it is just a book and a book's theory can be changed easily by time and that thing happened
@@harghartiranga2606 bro I'm talking to that upper person who claiming that no holy books make to practice discrimination.....so I'm asking him this question.....sorry if you think I'm asking you 😅
@@Lucifer-jr5ye first of all cast system don't spread hate , says u have to fallow it, gives permission to kill someone from another cast, want to spread discrimination people with self agenda's use it for their gains . It is us humans who fight with each other for our own interests.
U have to do some deep research to know better.
What he presented is pretty accurate and supported by recent historical and archaeological findings.
Caste system (initially in the form of Varna system) is at least 2600 year old and have been being followed rigidly for at least 1700 years.
Caste system was not brought by Britishers. They just granted caste certificates to individuals which gave birth to a caste based political consciousness and identity called casteism.
Then how was india so properous if its principles were so downgraded
@@asphault0074 it was prosperous when the cast system wasn't followed rigidly movememt between the varna(or casts) was allowed
@@asphault0074 because of natural resources. A lot of trade happened in India.
In ancient time it was like that if you had done Phd (example) you will be classified as Pandit (Brahmin) if you got the education of trader you will be trader
It was just classifications of people in different sectors just like primary, secondary tertiary sector nowadays
After british came they just exploited it and introduced it by birth
@@asphault0074 Because it was organised. A well organised society.
I am from Kalinga...present day Odisha (India) there is still that place where the Kalinga war took place and even civilians find jewelleries of the martyrs of Kaling war till date...near the river where the war took place
Cast system was based on skills...but when British came to India they used the policy of DIVIDE AND RULE making the cast system as of now...
Nice theory to dilute your own ancestral mistakes. Caste was made a distinction by birth since Gupta Empire era, while the Britishers simply exploited it.
@@SKNayak-gl4xt read bhagawad geeta dude he is right cast system base on skill not birth but by time goes on its become by birth
it was by birth, and it was always rigid. Infact in late vedic period 1000 - 600 BC it was already rigid. no need to do a deep dive just revise 11th NCERT sic and Tamil Nadu Books
@@shobhitrealm read geeta brother
@@shobhitrealm Not true: Around 1,900 years ago, the mixture largely stopped, as Indian society moved toward endogamy-the practice of avoiding intermarriage or close relationships between ethnic groups-which reached its most extreme form in the creation of the caste system. As one of the study’s authors told the Times of India, “the present-day structure of the caste system came into being only relatively recently in Indian history.”
Everything that exists within Buddhism has existed and still exists in Hinduism(core is Dharma, coated with numerous philosophies to choose from). But at that time many sects were created that emphasized some Hindu practices while rejecting others.(Jains, carvakas, etc including atheistic & nihilistic, hedonistic sects were permitted under the umbrella) They would have assemblies discussing the reasons for choosing such and such practices and the party that was convinced of the other's arguments usually would "convert"(more like adopting) to that particular set of philosophies. The biggest difference between Hindus at the time and Buddhists was the former's emphasis on rituals and the latter's emphasis on renunciation!(Later Buddhists would slowly but steadily readopt a lot of rituals & become less austere) However some of them became more exclusivist as they became popular, hence the conflicts that arose. The fact that Buddhists and Jains still exists in India after 2600years + and shared temples & deities in south-east asia is proof that they never really were at odds.
The caste system was non existent at that time, according to castes even Ashoka is was from lower caste , his grandfather chandragupta maurya became emperor despite being of lower caste.
Of course a "Sharma" is saying this!
CasTe sySteM wAS CreatED bY the engLiSH, lol go figure
Umm..what ? His grandfather Chandra Gupta become emperor because he won a war ! 😂 if he didn't he wouldn't be allowed to become a king because of his caste
Keep shutting your mistakes
Then Why Chandragupta maurya and Ashoka called Lower Cast King. According to you Caste system never exist in India🤣
So according to Sharmaji...Eklavya, Arjuna with dronacharya and mahabharat was also created by British.🤣
History is written by winners. Can't say what is right or what is wrong, but all i can say is that.. we should learn from it. So that any thing negative is not repeated
Well
There are still stone writings everywhere in India that tells his story of him having a change of heart and becoming a Buddhism. His son and daughter spreaded Buddhism to all theway to Japan. This video is very inaccurate and definitely reflects the creators own bias views. His stone writing are the proof that he indeed had a change of heart. He became from Chandal Ashok (evil ashoka) to the great Ashoka.
Pls provide links for those. That video wasn't inaccurate, he was a ruler doing ruler things. He killed people and even after converting. The stone writings can be manipulations. It doesn't make India any less of a country.
The great aspect started happening in the very later periods of his life after the reduction of civil conflicts. He promotes lots of trade with multiple countries and lead to spread of religion known as Buddhism.
@@harikiran4339 To be honest anything written by Romila Thapar is false or atleast not the whole truth.
Chandragupta was converted Jain and Ashoka become Bhuddist after Kalinga war.
Before the discovery of Iron pillers people were don't even knows about Mauryan Empire after that people started research and find writting on Greek or Chinese history.
According to you the Century old stone sculpture or Iron pillars are false but Story written by some illminded person is Truth.
You should actually read his edicts? he literally says he will punish the Adivasis and he was already a buddhist because his wife was a practising Buddhist and also from Shakya clan(Buddha's clan). some of his claims seem far-fetched though but overall the video is okay.
@@otomackena7610 Agreed for the fact but saying he done that cuz of their caste or faith is wrong. His family were followrs of different faiths. And saying he was okey with his father but not with others seems not right. For that time it's hard to understand the situation but may be he treats them outsiders like different clans or tribes is more believable.
@@ChoCoMoCo69 So because he quoted 'some' of Thapar's reports his video should be discredited?
Well caste system was there since before the england, england kind of subsidized it, like at that point of time it didnt matter but before england the brahmins dominated
I don't know how accurate this is but history always have to be read and studied with a critical mind. To be honest, I feel it is moderately accurate
Nah
It's garbage
it's mid
Yes, it is quite accurate.
It's just biased. Far from accurate only dhruv tatti fanbois will call this accurate
@@cringekiller348 yes 😂🤣
First time watching this video myself, I've always heard and studied in classes about Ashoka the great, never once heard anything about Ashoka the terrible, it's interesting to watch and thanks for reacting to this unique video
Ashoka was the greatest emperor of the History of India.... And Ashoka himself was shudra(lower cast), they were not khatriya, Chandra gupta maurya his grand Father was from lower cast as history tells us.
The thing is I live near the lake in Kalinga where we took the last stand against Ashoka. Everyone participated after our capital "Sisupalgarh" got destroyed. Soldiers, Farmers, and the general population took the last stand with sickles, sticks, and whatnot. Kalinga received a crushing defeat and the lake turned red with the blood of innocent people. After 90 years of the war, the Kalinga king invaded and sacked Magadha (The capital of Ashoka's Kingdom) and ended the Mauryan empire.
Mauryan empire ended 45 years after the death of Ashoka or 75 years after Kalinga war as last emperor was killed by Puashyamitra sunga.
I don't know how anyone from Kalinga could kill anyone from already non existent empire after 90 years.
Bro, that's DAYA RIVER not any lake. Do you live near Dhauli? I doubt on yu as there's no lake. But daya river which flows through it.
Asoka had actually converted to Buddhism before the Kalinga war.
Wtf! 😳
After actually when he saw the horrific scenes at the battle field and bodies of the people lying in puddles of blood then he gave up on this and embraced Buddhism
Anyways Buddhism Jainism and Sikhism are offsprings of Hinduism.
@@gautamshukla4433 No he was already a Buddhist.
@@gautamshukla4433 he has already converted to Buddhism before kalinga war
@@factshut9675 well you can be true but if it was the case really then buddhism tells you too embrace non violence, why he did it then?
As Achara said cast system was always their but it was become more agressive during British time.. Due their devide and rule policy.. And The great Ashoka was born in our Home town it's a pride.. And forgive me if I write the wrong spelling of AK( it's safe) 😁😁
Dear Jaby, FYI… King Saul is different from Saul who got converted to Christianity and became St. Paul. King Saul was the first king of Israel. He was the predecessor of King David from whose lineage Jesus is said to have descended on earth. Both Mary (Jesus’ mother) & St. Joseph (Jesus’ foster father) were descendants of King David (King Saul’s successor). St. Paul, who persecuted the Christians when he was ‘Saul’ was born more than a thousand years after King Saul.
The moment I saw Romila Thapad's quote at the end I just thrown this entire video into a garbage bin! I had this inclination the whole time listening to the narrative and the underlying objectives of this video that just got confirmed.
*This is a piece of crap!*
Exactly
It was actually accurate video, even bharadwaj aka true indology pointed out in his thread
Ashoka followed Buddhism, his father followed Hinduism form while his grandfather followed Jainism
Bindusar followed Ajivika
1) Hinduism raised head after decline of Mauryan Empire... Till then India was mostly Buddhist. Few handful of outsiders /The Aryans (upper caste Hindus/Indians) suppressed natives and forcefully convertred the country. At present around 3-4℅ population is real invader hindus. Others are Converted.
2) Ashoka had the largest army in the ancient world. (Till modern era)
3) Ashoka was the greatest emperor that he Even banned hunting in his empire. And did so much for its people.
4) What you see in India is shown to you. You will have to study hard to check real social and cultural backgrounds/present conditions.
5) Hind=India and Hindu=Indian
Hindu is a geographical identity not religious. The religion which is labelled as Hinduism is sanaatan religion.
It is laughable that ashoka was never like that 😂 in reality he was a king whom people loved he became king because of chadakya who is the guru of his father as well because of ashoka India stayed United.
History kabhi padha hai apne??
No ashoka was a very cruel king and he was responsible for his empire decline
Chanakya was dead probably before Ashoka was born.
That guy is literal dumbass. Nothing more . He's just a propagandist. Buddhist sources are inconsistent as well. If there are cruel accounts, then there are accounts against those cruel accounts as well, such as Ashoka building temples and giving donations to jains.
Ashoka the great still remains great. If only people stopped being one sided and looked at sources from both sides. This was a shitty video to look at jaby. You shouldn't have done that.
@@Shivathedestroyer04 Ji hai chacha Jaan 🙂
All great Historical figures in History have a bad side which won’t be published obviously. But Ashoka lived during BCE and all these might be taboo now but they were pretty common activities in the past. Nobody can deny his unparalleled rule during that era especially when the Persians and greeks were waiting to plunge into India. 🙏
Ashoka didn't ruled the largest swath of land in India the ruler who ruled largest swath of land is from the same dynasty as Ashoka and his name is Chakrabarty Samrath Vikramaditya Morya
Actually Buddhism is not derived from Hinduism.. I am a Buddhist, from Shakya clan where Gautam Buddha belong.
Back in the days it wasn't even Hinduism it was Sanatan Dharma and it was very lenient and open minded religion unlike what Hinduism has become today.
Buddha DID NOT follow any religion before he achieved Enlightenment. After getting enlightened he faught against the Brahmins who were making up crazy rules about castes and things.. Buddha promoted equality and universal brotherhood where everyone in this world is like a one big family. Buddhism is NOT a branch of Hinduism. Hinduism came after much much later after Buddha's time. Hinduism was promoted by Brahmins and they made up stories to unify the different local religions and completely changed the original Sanatan Dharma and made it religion full of toxic rules, superstitions and discrimination against different classes
Right 👍
Buddhism was never a religion in the first place and buddha never advocated creation of any religion, his disciples created this religion because they needed some identity for them... And please don't teach me in reply that buddhism was always there and Siddharth was just reincarnation of great buddha and there are many buddhas in buddhism bla bla bla...
@@corerealist9802 well religion itself means "a set of rules that people follow and get identified by"
But whatever you say
Ps: and no we do not believe in reincarnation. That's a Hinduism theory.. get your facts checked first
@@razor-wd2pc 😂😂😂😂 Dalai Lama is said to be reincarnation of the Avalokiteśvara...There are many schools of Buddhism with different theories, please explore your own religion first.... You people are so ignorant that's why a saying goes like this 'Where there is truth there is no religion, and where there is religion there is no space for truth'....I guess that's why our athiests population is more than your hinduism and buddhism
Caste system was Varna system in earlier time but it was based on work not birth. Because of greediness of bhramin they made it birth based.
Untouchability started in last 500 years during islamic rule and British's rule.
The Caste System always existed, even though most Indians will blame the English for it. The only reason the Buddha and Mahavir appeared was because they were against the abhorrent Caste System. So did Guru Nanak of the Sikhs.
Originally... i.e, Varna Vyavastha ( "Caste" word was later on given by British which has roots in spanish word "Casta". It became Caste System) was formed eons ago (might be 25000 years back) it was skill based. But we see the seeds of a birth based caste system in a minor way in Ramayana and in a severe way in Mahabharata (The events in which the stories are based around 10000 to 5500 BCE). Until Buddha came (around 5000 years later) the caste system had been severely corrupted from a skill based caste system to a birth based one, with instances of untouchability also coming. Buddha himself spoke against birth based Caste System. Ashoka came around 270 BCE and spread Buddhism.
Also Hinduism wasn't a religion back then. Hiduism was seperate sects, Vaishnavites(Vishnu Worshippers), Shaivites(Shiva Worshippers), etc. These all were united by Shankaracharya later on and then something of what we call as Hinduism was formed. It's called Sanatan Dharma.
Later on with the coming of Mughals and Britishers later on, Hinduism was further postulated. Caste system, just like Indians, was severely misunderstood, enforced and propogated on the Indian people re-enforcing the injustices by Indians on Indians, meanwhile Britishers did their "Stealing".
Fun fact, the word "Hindu" comes from Persians. It originally meant "People living around the river Sindhu River(Indus River)". The Persians couldn't pronounce the "S" in Sindhu, so they pronounced it as Hindu.
Shahrukh Khan has made a film on Ashoka. Apart from the singing and dancing, the film was fine. Gives an outline. But for more info, just read.
Cheers.
Such a shitty comment. Caste didn't come into existence until the medieval centuries and modern caste system is a product of
Zamindaei systems in the 1800s.the old casste/feudal system was based on work and was extremely different from this. .
Stop spreading misinformation
@@cringekiller348 Okay, Can you explain about the Varna Vyavastha mentioned in the Vedas then, or Guru Dronacharya not teaching Eklavya because he was a lower caste, or Draupadi Rejecting Karna in Marriage because he was the son of a low caste Charioteer? Didn't she say the words " I don't want to marry the son of a Charioteer"? Is it not Caste System? What about the first cases of Untouchability in the south of India? Please do your homework and then comment.
This needs to be pinned!
@@cringekiller348 Discrimination in caste system had been rampant since ages. And as per what your are saying, the Zamindari System was corrupted by the British themselves, making the Caste system extremely discriminatory throughout the country. What was there in pockets of India, spread throughout during the British period. And Skill/ Work based caste system is what I said was initially what it was. Also stated in Bhagvad Geeta by Krishna.
Brother, just because a few words are different from your point doesn't mean it is misinformation. My hypothesis is well researched and I can site sources as well if you want to regarding, untouchability of lower castes in Tamil Nadu.
There were many emperors who used to roam around the city or their kingdom Disguised as a commoner and used to ask about what they think of the ruler and their thinking toward them. Most of the people hadn't seen the face of king cause king always used to ask their problems through the ministers. Like literally every king used to do this!!!
18:19
That is exactly what new infrastructure does. People reap benefits after it has been made overtime.
Even America took 50 or so years to gain significant wealth as a result of interstate highway network built.
Ashoka favoured the akhand bharat i.e. integrated india
Therefore his made lion capital is our emblem
Its becoz of the meaning of that symbol.. it relates with indian roots.. that's it😊
Nobody can exactly know about the all contexts of historical reality when we don't know today's happenings even completely!!
Anyone saying Britishers introduced castes and they oppressed and divided us should know that there is an evil book 'Manusmriti' exists.
And From that you can clearly interpret who oppressed who.
And for whose welfare it was written for?
If you know, You Know 😌
why people always mix social class into caste when it comes to india
He did what was right.... But at that time he did what he could... .. Even though he used force but fact is he united india and promoted peace n harmony.... He was animal lover than think how much he loved human who is morally good
Very good and thoughtful questions from Jaby, I love how you try and understand and make sense of what's being shown on the screen, and asking questions pertaining to the topic.
For example you asked why would Ashoka follow Buddhism since it came out of Hinduism, the answer to that is Hinduism isn't a religion, au contraire religion is part of Hinduism and just a small one. Hinduism is a combination of various thoughts, philosophy it's not a belief system. You could be an atheist and still be a Hindu for example the Charvaka school of thought puts importance to materialism, similarly there's Jainism, Sikhism and of course Buddhism they're all Dharmic traditions. In modern times they're looked upon as separate religions but they are just different arms of Sanatan Dharma the correct term for Hinduism. Sanatan meaning eternal and Dharma can mean a lot of different things according to the context it's being used like Law, righteousness, duty.
Hope this gave you guys a little bit of clarity, it's a vast subject very fascinating to study.
Earlier caste system was fluid as a person can move up a caste.
There are 4 main castes in descending order of their importance:
Brahmins: The priests, they were teachers, gurus, the one responsible for imparting knowledge to others and they also served as ministers in kings courts to guide them through any situation. They were researchers, mathematicians, philosophers and also were the ones who taught fighting skills.
Kshatriyas: Warrior class, Kings, soldiers, they were responsible for maintaining law and order, protection of people
Vaishyas: Merchant class which were mainly involved with trades and businesses
Shudras: Worker class mostly worked for Vashiyas and other castes, like labour.
Earlier one could move up a class by learning the skills of that class. A Kshatriya can be considered a Bhramin if he learns Sanskrit and the vedas and many other skills involved. Please also note that once you moved up a class your children will also be considered in that class wether they learn those skills or not. The only hinderence was that one could only move one class up. If a Shudra learns the skills of a trade and amasses wealth and is considered an expert in that trade they can be considered a Vashiyas but he can never be considered a Kshatriyas even if they learns Kshatriyas skills, but their children will be considered Vashiyas from then on. Now they can try and move up a class and become a Kshatriya. Please do consider it was rare that one would move up so easily as skills are easily imparted in the family then outside the family, then again, gaining a skill is one thing and proving your skills was another, so it was really difficult.
Earlier one would also marry in a caste directly above and below them easily as many kings would marry to a Brahmin girl and/or Vashiya girl as well or a Brahmin may marry a Kshatriya girl. But rarely they would go beyond two classes.
But after ‘Manusmriti’ the one believed to be the first ancient legal text in Hinduism many things changed… it made it very clear that one should marry in their own caste. Not only caste but they even went down to sub-caste.
Now what is a sub-caste? Consider this, a Goldsmith and Blacksmith were both Vashiyas, Merchant class but a Goldsmith would always be considered above a Blacksmith, so this created lots of sub-castes to be divided people even further.
Old Britishers didn’t made any such things happen, what they did was far worse, they used this division to their advantage, providing powerful positions under them to certain castes(like Bhramins and Kshatriyas) as other castes wouldn’t dare oppose them creating a rift between locals even further. It was the realisation of such tactics that brought Indians together. But the scars of those tactics of divide and conquer still remains deepining in some areas even further.
Yeah...the caste system is first mentioned in 10th mandala of Rig veda, the oldest scripture. Although at the beginning, during the period of 1500-1000 Bce roughly it wasn't based on birth but occupation...in the later vedic period after 900 bce, it became rigid i.e based on birth...Asoka came around 225 bce and at that time caste system was a big thing in Indian society. It is also noticable that around 599-545 BCE buddhism was at it's peak and it's one of the prime region was disowning the caste taboo
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Hi Jabey, The video says, a bramhin girl who was a hair dresser and yet she was low caste. This shows the fluidity in caste system before Brits. As Brahmin were considered the upper most class. The caste was on this basis of work they did , before Brits, It got frozen after Brits came .
Caste system was always there in India. It became contaminated way before the England came. Even, Buddhism and Jainism were formed to counter this caste system. Yes, ofcourse the Britishers used the caste and religion as a tool to devide and rule. But we have to admit that this was our weak point and for that we suffered and still suffering. So, Britishers are kinda scapegoats for us when talking about caste system.
Buddhism was never to counter Caste system this is a popular narrative . In Tibetan texts Buddhist monks can only be men and Bramhin , read it . However, over next few centuries it was changed ....... At that time Bramhin was name of class which gave education and not caste ......
I agree with you, Cast system was fluid but manusmriti changed all that.
It's just human Nature to exploit power to stay in power.
Caste system was never there until Manusmriti. Before Manusmriti it was Varna System.
Earlier division was for work related brahmins-priest, katriyas-warriors, vaishya-merchant and Sudras- manual labourers doing the other jobs. Brits came and classified it to current status in India to serve their divide and rule.
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In ancient India Shaivism(worship of shiva), vaishnavisn(of vishnu) shaktism(of Goddess shakti) jainism(of mahavir) and buddhism(of Lord buddha) were all considered different religion. Today out of the above jainism and Buddhism are still considered a separate religion and the rest are considered a part of Hinduism/santaan dharm, Hindus consider jainism and Buddhism a part of hindu heritage
When you see the end quote, you could pretty much understand the narrative and propaganda from where he/she had gathered his sources. Of all the things mentioned, few are correct and most are just propaganda.
1. He did killed his brothers, as a matter of fact he killed more than 90 people and thrown all of them in a well of fire or Ashoka's hell (known as Agamkuan, here in Patna,Bihar) - of which many were his brothers to get his throne.
FYI, there is a tradition here as brahmin pandit advises since that time to not take Gangajal from Ghats from Patna side as the bloods poured from that well to river Ganga, so most people to get Gangajal go onto the middle part of the river.
2. Blindly omitted, Chanakya's role in training him from the tender age just like he did with his grandfather.
3. He seems cruel at first, but he was fighting with the whole administration since the very tender age to get his mother her rights as the wife of Bindusara, to which all his relatives mocked about and always plotted to kill him and his mother, but he and his mother survived and later avenged and killed them all to get his throne.
3. It's true he had a bloodlust, as he was constantly fighting against ploys against his life, all through his life. Even after becoming the king, he killed whenever he felt necessary to stable his government and maintain peace throughout his kingdom though it was not easy to controland considering the time it was far more tough, which was stretched in west to present day Afghanistan and to Bangladesh in east and that's how he ruled for more than 35 years and no one dared to touch his territory.
Sometimes, to be a great leader one have to face the hard truth and take harsh decisions. And, he did took those harsh decisions. That's just the leadership part why he is considered great.
To the religious part we all know of, Buddhism as we know today, had mostly flourished in the World because of him and the efforts he took. And, that's the religious part of him being considered great.
It's so fascinating that two polar opposites personality were of a single person. And, that is why, he is considered Ashoka the Great.
Remember, Before Chatrapati Shivaji, before Maharaja Ranjit Singh, before Maharana Pratap, before Prithvi Raj Chauhan and numerous others. There was a king in ancient India to whom foreigners and the internal turbulent feared and dared not to question.
His name was Samrat Ashoka.
Thanks to people like sanjeev sanyal for bringing this nehruvian-Marxist history baise in public domain. In indian texts ashoka was deliberately forgotten,instead chandragupta is considered as great king
It is the opposite fool, Ashoka is hailed and Chandra Gupt is forgotten
@@worldisone8282 Are you stupid! ashoka is rediscovered by British historians
He was evil ruler . People don't realise that. He slaughtered many people and apparently broken temples also. He did slaughtered people and said he would do it again.
Our darbari historians have praised him, that explains his nature.
Every society has a kind of cast system without it the society won't function that's true even today where society is divided based on income. I am not sure but have read it some where that the cast system was more flexible in the past but became more rigid over time. If any one knows more about it please send a reply.🧐
Yes you're right. It is believed 4200 to 1900 years ago mixing was very fluid: Around 1,900 years ago, the mixture largely stopped, as Indian society moved toward endogamy-the practice of avoiding intermarriage or close relationships between ethnic groups-which reached its most extreme form in the creation of the caste system. As one of the study’s authors told the Times of India, “the present-day structure of the caste system came into being only relatively recently in Indian history.”
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There was categorisation according to once occupation called Varna means category and it was fluid system i.e. one can move from one category to another if one has those qualities and education. But Britishers deliberately translated ancient scriptures in such a way that it seemed as if these categories were affixed from birth itself as per their divide and rule policy
There is a difference between caste system and varna system. Caste system is the distorted form of varna system in which british played an important role. In varna system you can move around in different categories. Because varna just help you to distinguish you based on the work which you do and your varna will change as your work changes. Hence you can marry intervarna also which you can see an example of it . Ashok was born in 304 BC. but in 2nd Century BC the movement of intervarna was stopped by Manusmriti which made the system rigid that was just beginning of rigidity of this varna system. British used it in multiple ways and form and gave a name caste system based on their idea of racism as caste word is derived from latin which means race.
Ramsharan Sharma have wrote that his kingdom expanded even after Kalinga war so if he was changed why he did not free Kalinga . Because it was easy to use religion as a weapon. Kingdom expanded without any heavy wars.
Well, you can say Ashoka was like India's Vladimir Putin and Kalinga was like Ukraine and Mauryan Empire was like Russia. 😂😂😂😂 .
We can never know what is the true history of any country because many of the stories has been passed down orally and if it is written, political influence is always prominent in their work. It is very difficult to judge what is accurate and what is made up.
Don't forget they are Americans,they never accept the real concept,only know controversial one.
The delta between Achara & Jaby's intelligence is massive
Ashokas father himself was from the lowest cast division, there was division of cast in India to keep a track of lineages but it was made rigid and imposed by the British
The fact is simple, if you look at the Nationalist Historians they will try to claim that Caste system had no problems before the British whereas if you look at what the West and Leftist Historians have to say, the they will tell you that Caste system was always there, it became regressive much earlier than British but perhaps made way worse by the British.
It is something where subjectivity is present because this can't just be easily analyzed by the records and hence different narrative of different people.
Lastly, this entire video is all about the fact that some Historians over glorify Ashoka(as can be said for any Monarch because all had big issues) and hence is decoding his negative side.
But if I were to give an opinion, as a very normal level student of Indian History preparing for Civil Services, I would say that many facts in the video were Correct about how the Ashokas retribution narrative might be a Politically motivated fabrication BUT you must have noticed, that whenever there was a subjective thing to claim, the person in the video always took the negative side of Ashoka, this is very typical of The Western Historians, trying to undermine any achievements by the East, especially Indian achievements. Also the only Indian Historian he quoted was Romila Thapar is infamous to be very Leftist and is generally acquainted also with undermining the Indian achievements.
I am not a leftist historian but i still believe caste system existed way before any islamic or brits arrive in india
@@Shivathedestroyer04 oh man, I never said only Leftist Historians claim that. I just said, in terms of Historians the Left believes or more accurately the Left Historians of India and pretty much the entire West believes Caste System existed much before the Brits or even the Islamic invaders(which is supported by many many evidences & personally I also agree with it very much) and the Right believes that Caste was due to the Invaders(where they mostly claim the interpretation of the earlier evidences as biased, which I don't subscribe to myself)
the lady used the word ‘it is different philosophy’ - great, she is really intelligent.
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Caste was there but not many , there was only 4 that's called varnas ,u can check in Google also
caste system(originally known as the varna system or work-classification-organization system) was interchangeable and it was based on work, skills, social stature(class). After the destruction of major university like taxila and nalanda university by Islamic invaders, which resulted in, education and skills were passed from generation to generation, father to son and mother to daughter. Hard copies of ancient texts/scriptures/information were destroyed because of being killed as infiedel by scholars and knowledge was then passed orally(which often resulted in mistakes and promotion of unintended consequences of morality), thus in later Islamic rule of India then emerged a rigid system in which flow of information by controlled by few like Brhamins and rich. later during Islamic sultante & British raj it was enforced rigid.
the video isn't History but literally presented as a Narration of the Romilla Thappar. who is literally known for her own biased views on history..
Jaby this is completely wrong way of judging. The first wrong thing is it was not caste system it is generally a division of a King and a SERVANT and it is true to all countries nothing to do with caste...there are lots of wrong things and mostly judging by accent I dont think he is Indian so he should not be talking all these...anyways not ur problem.
4:24 it's more like king marrying someone who is not from royal bloodline
If you go by cast system, brhamins were considered the most superior cast , from here only you could understand the knowledge he might had about the culture and people he was talking about .
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Brother, this video you watched is not even 10% true in its narrative about "Ashoka - The Great", You need to understand one thing only, i.e. If he was truly that much cruel and mean than why did its symbols are used by the government of India in various things like flag and money etc.
Answer to this is, since he belonged to the lower caste from his mother side, no upper cast one wanted to let others know how can a lower cast person rule such a vast empire and be feared by his enemies but equally loved by his disciple. So they devoted a lot of time to distort the history books but couldn't distort and control the feeling's and emotions of people who through generations after generations told their own versions of how great and powerful ruler was he. Indian Government knows that too and cannot ignore his legacy that's why they use his symbols.
Think about it @Jaby.
Varna system (very much similar to Economic + Professional class of the modern times)
Vs
Caste system (a Portuguese system imposed upon Hindus because the Brits thought these were the same thing)
The biggest difference is: The Varna system is not rigid, assigned based upon your talents and not at the time of your birth. Basically like how the sorting hat would sort you among houses of Hogwarts. However,
1. because it was more common for the son of a Potter to grow into his family business than leave his village of potters (mostly comprising of his own extended family households) and become a Weaver instead (without the benefit of a formal training institution - which was mostly the family back in those days), the crafts were mostly passed on through generations.
2. There were rules in place for different varnas. For example, Brahmins (the teachers, scribes, researchers and priests) were mandated to live a satvik life i.e, a life of great austerity, discipline and rigour. They were not allowed to save any money and could only earn their livelihood through alms and begging. Punishment for crimes were 16 times as harsh on Brahmins as on the Shudras (manual labourer class).
3. There are countless examples though of people cutting across the varna (class) of their parents and rising/falling in the varna order. Sorta like a person from the middle class today breaking across the class lines and becoming a rich industrialist. But everybody wasn't doing that because there was no job market like it exists today where you could apply and be accepted. It needed a lot of hardwork and self training.
Edit: The European caste system imposed on India was rigid and regressive. It is assigned at birth. Eg. Yadavas were Kshatriyas (warriors/Administrators) at one place and Cowherds (Shudras) at another. However, the British unilaterally assigned a 'low caste' on all Yadavas in India.
The word caste comes from the Spanish word Casta(came in with the Spanish and Portuguese invasion, its recent history), which basically translates to lineage and it wrongly describes the "Varna" system now known as the caste system that existed in India. Varna doesn't mean lineage, varna roughly translates to sections. Also there was no such section/varna called the untouchables or lower caste. There was Bhramin(their job was to study, hence they were respected), Kshatriya(they were warriors, hence respected) Vaishyas(businessmen, hence not so respected but valuable) just like Teachers are respected the most, then comes the soldiers and the businessmen, very similar to the modern-day society, the last but not the least were the Shudras, it is written in the Vedas that all humans are born as Shudras but they are reborn when they enter a Verna, so Shudra is a single birth verna and the rest of the Vernas are considered as dwich/two birth vernas. This is the reason Shudras were not so highly respected coz they were not able to enter a varna or gain a speciality they had to do the odd jobs but they were never considered achoot or untouchables. The word achoot or untouchable was first used in a relatively modern scripture which is Dharmashastra and it is used for people who had committed heinous crimes or murders, they were labelled as achoot/untouchables so that they have to go through a life of humiliation(they were not just killed off, in fact, mrityudand or death sentence was very rare in Hindu society). There is much more to Varna system and Hindu society that people don't understand and a ton of misinterpretation happen all the time. Even I didn't understand a thing until I decided to learn Sanskrit and read the Vedas myself, now I feel I have started scratching the surface.
haha hello again, commenting for 7:54, Ashoka basically wanted to be the ruler of everything (just like every other ruler in history who just wanted to conquer everything in their path of life). Ashoka decided to walk on the path of Hinduism(a way to life ones life) after realizing that the the path he has been following all this while actually did nothing but it just satisfied his greed. ones he realized he left all of it and went ahead to follow a life which would attain him true peace in life.
actually yes in near 300 bc there was varna system duty biased on karma , caste system was originated near by 600 AD , so no caste system at the time of ashoka , that is a mistake mentioned in the video .
Ashoka had became ruthless just for a short period of time because of murder of his mentor ,mother and many losses and problems because of his enemies.He was a kind soul though.He was also grew up with commoners,he understood them.That was one of the reason why chanakya choose him to turn into the new ruler,like his grandfather chandra gupt.I am from odisha which was previously known as 'UTKALA'.While his journey of conquering he came to utkal ,they fought and in the end ashoka could not believe how much bloodshed he caused.He regreted it ,so he changed from chandashoka to dharmashoka.
The best person to consider a true son of Mother India is Chandragupta Maurya. What a personality man, what a damn good personality. Megasthenes sang high praises of him, so much that his contemporaries thought he was lying. He wrote a book Indica in which he said the emperor was a highly conscientious man and hardly slept for 4 hours. He was doing work all day and night. He starved himself to death because he failed to stop famine in his empire and due to which many people were hungry and many died of hunger. How can an emperor like that cannot be praised.
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Buddhism was not a religion but an idea or some new rules at that time..so it was not like that ashoka got converted to Buddhism but actually he adopted the Buddhist principal along with his existing hindu/ sanatan faith..he was a great devotee of lord shiva
There was no caste system but there was varna system back then. Both are different. Varna system is based on personality traits of an individual. Caste system is based on the profession of an individual. There are mainly 4 varnas but there are countless castes in India.
Caste system came at a very later stage of Indian history. British promoted it by using policies like communal rewards, separate communal electorate, even separate religious electorate to deepen the Hindu-Muslim divide.
Cast system was introduced in veda but it was much flexible... In manusmriti it made hard rule in cast system and which carried on with british rule.... Cast system was only developed for distinguish in quality and his dharma... Not for helping a certain cast.
About your doubt regarding Hinduism and Buddhism, I'd like to explain it briefly about it.. Hinduism is based on multiple different values a person should acquire to live this life but a few of them are the root of Hinduism which have been mentioned in Bhagwad Geeta too by Krishna.. According to Sanatan Dharma which is the actual term for Hinduism, in order to get Moksha, you are supposed to detach yourself from humanly emotions and shouldn't get swayed by them, but also while living your human life and relationships.. Which makes Hinduism a little harder if you want to attain Moksha, but that's what Krishna said that you are supposed to carry out your Karma.. If all the positive and intelligent people start becoming a "Sanyasi (Monk)", then the negative people would be the ones who would start running the world.. This is where Buddhism comes in the picture, they chose the easier path towards Moksha, Buddhism says to abandon all your human emotions and to become a monk, which makes Buddhism more focused towards the goal of Moksha and as a result people become more kinder but it breaks you away from the Karma you are supposed to do.. If everyone starts leaving their partner like Buddha did, that wouldn't be fair, would it? So According to Krishna, if you are living in a physical body, you have to look at the bigger picture and perform your Karma(Dharma), such as maintaining relationships, loving and getting married, having children, teaching them the correct values, earning, doing good for all "life" in general, you are supposed to do all of this while keeping yourself detached from the humanly emotions.. And then at the end of it, then you can attain the "Sanyasi (Monk)" life..
So Ashoka most probably chose Buddhism as it is more focused on kindness, whereas Hinduism focuses more on the bigger picture..
I hope that I explained well for all the people reading to be able to understand properly 😊
The caste system is a western concept, In ancient India and in Vedic texts what we had was Varna System which wasn;t decided by birth but on profession but it was very flexible, A person who worked as Sudra could go on to become kshatriya to legitimise this people used to form matrimonial alliance for ex Chandragupta 1 of Gupta dynasty Married Kumardevi a 'Licchavi'(Most probably descendents of siddhartha Gautam i.e. Buddha). As the time progressed there was various Interpretations of varna system and it started being decided on Birth where Varna Became Jati(i.e. Caste and various subcastes of Jatis). With the advent of British things were even made worse they acted as fuel to the fire the caste system was made even more rigid.
Now Buddha was inspired by Upanishads and rejected that Vedas are infallible. It is more of a philosophy where it is beleived that Human body is made up of 4 composite matters Prithvi(I.e Earth or Soil), Vayu(I.e Air),Tej(i.e glow; splendour, brilliance, refulgence), Aap(Fire) divided in 5 components they are 1) Rupa(i.e Form and Matter), 2) Vedna(i.e. Feelings and Sensation),3) Samna(i.e Perception amd Understanding), 4) Smkhara(i.e Disposition & Wil),5)Vinna(i.e Consciousness).