Revopoint Pop 2 vs 3D MakerPro Whale vs 3d Scanner app comparison
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In this video I compare the Revopoint Pop 2 scanner vs 3D Makerpro Whale scanner vs 3d scanner photogrammetry app
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Not a bias review at all... Stamp of approval before opening the box of one... One scanner used in the fixed position, the other freehand... Flipped the model for one but not the other... One has the models on the plate, the other is elevated to scan underneath... Then the Gator, here is video of me freehand scanning it with one, the other well just a really bad scan with no video of you doing the scan. Did you try scanning it on the turn table or freehand with the pop2? The turntables have limitations, and no scanner is a polaroid. Not sure if you got the whale as a freebie, or you're trying to justify the 7x price difference. But maybe try an apples to apples comparison instead of an apple and orange next time.
I'm still researching scanners for fixture design. This review helped!
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Thanks you as well
I was skeptical on watching your review thinking it was just another shill video. I like that you call out what works and doesn't work. I think the software is the key and every company is licensing the core program and adding their peripherals. Until the core program can be ditched and someone comes up with a new software or technology the leap to point and shoot will not happen.
I got a Whale scanner myself, I've found that the depth scanning doesn't work well on IR translucent materials such as fur, or reflective surfaces. Been using a light dusting of talcum powder on objects because aesub spray costs way too much. That might help improve the scannability of the wheels, since it seems like the sensors have a limited dynamic range of IR they can pick up.
Seriously, how a scanner going to scan fur and reflective....
The Pop2 is $7000 for >$7k there are plenty of better alternatives and I100% agree you should get the best tool you can for the job at hand.
To be fair every one of those are easy to scan with the pop if you know what you're doing. The pop2 beats the whale in all tests aside from black according to myself and everyone else. Seems like he just used whatever the presets are instead of trying things to get the best scans
NM he says it should just be point and shoot and that's never been how 3d scanning works even with even more expensive scanners. NM he ignores the fact one of the scanners you can run from your phone/ tablet lol
also he says it doesn't come with a way to attatch the plate to the turn table but it does as well theres a little sticky pad
So this is like comparing a Yugo with a Mercedes?
@@stuartkorte1642 to be fair the whale has no business being 7k
Great video. Yeah, agree micro usb is a red flag. Engineered before 2014. Super interesting! Mahalo for sharing. 🙂🙏🐒
Good video. Just a future tip - silicone is soft flexible material like oven mitts, computer chips are silicon.
There's a lot of hype about the universal USB-C connector, it does have superior use-cases for smaller products, but not everywhere.
For the computer-end USB-A is a much sturdier connector than USB-C and therefore a better alternative for bigger equipment like this. The equipment will have longer glitch free lifetime.
As it goes for the equipment-side Micro-USB is indeed a bad connector. But what would be better for this product is not the flimsy USB-C but rather the old school and sturdy USB-B, a.k.a the printer-cable.
I was wondering the same thing. To quote “use the right tool for the job you’re doing”, I’d think you would use what works, what is the lowest cost.
It should have a socket for USB (whichever) in addition to a 5m fixed USB cable...
Why is lowest cost even a factor, silly.
Checkout the Einstar from Shining 3D. I just got mine. Amazing scanner.
Same comparison but with the Revopoint Mini would be very interesting to See If they compet now
Hey Eric. On the pop2, try adjusting the gain on the camera/sensor. It’s the slider in the lower left corner.
Thanks for all the good content you share.
As a circuit designer, what power jack/plug combo would you recommend other than micro USB-C? I have used micro USB-B, at times to comply with customer requirements, but I don't like micro USB-B. micro USB-C looks promising, as the connectors are becoming more widely available. So far I've been using 2.1mm barrel jack/plug connectors (center positive) on my circuits because the connections are reliable and available.
There's no universal connector to rule them them all. You will have to consider the use-case on all development. The classic barrel plug is a very good choice for equipment that just requires power. It's an universal connector that many people already have at home and it's quite sturdy and robust.
USB-C might be a good option for consumer products, especially for mobile equipment or smaller products.
For bigger products USB-B is a much sturdier connector than USB-C and will give a glitch-free connector for communication and power.
It seems odd that a circuit designer doesn't know that "micro USB-C" isn't a thing.
There are 4 types of USB A connectors (2.x and 3.x, male and female of each) and a sea of USB B connectors (mini, micro, standard male and female of each and, 2.x and 3.x of standard and mini) There are 2 kinds of USB C connector (male and female) though depending on what you have there are some that don't populate/use all the pins.
@@Segphalt That indeed, would be odd :)
One problem I'm having in sorting through all of these reviews is that Revopoint themselves say the pop is meant for items (I believe) under a maximum of 210mm. Upon looking at reviews I'm seeing a ton of people disappointed that it didn't scan their car interiors and other much larger objects. I'm looking at their Range now which says it can do up to 800mm.
How would these products have been improved by the use of usb-c connectors?
One standard, no adapters more environmental friendly, less stress, no backward or upsidedown installation. More compact, more data capable, faster, and the list goes one!
Thanks for the review ! The question is : what's the best scanner tested so far with a reasonable price ?
The mole
@@EricStrebel Did you compare the mole with revoscan 3?
Agree with your thoughts on the micro usb use. I think that came out before 2010, right? At some point, the EU tried to standardize on a portable power standard and I vaguely recall micro USB being a candidate. Don't know how that went, but it could have something to do with it's failure to die off.
I wish you had gone into more about how each scanner works. Do they provide their own light source or are they dependent on ambient light? Can the sensor gain be adjusted to compensate for poor scanning?
Yes, those things are adjustable in software
I don't see why you don't like USB A connectors, almost every modern computer still uses USB A, the computer that I just built last year only has a single USB C port. I do agree there's absolutely no reason to be using micro USB over USB C, but USB type A is a solid standard and not very many computers use USB C.
Goodness...every device I own only has USBC, phone, computer tablet, etc...way better charging speeds, way better data through put, reversible, and the list goes on. If it doesn't have USBC on it I don't buy it.
@@EricStrebelyou seem to think that USB-C connectors and USB-3 is the same thing, which is of course not at all true.
USB-3 is the dataport/protocol, USB-C is just a connector and doesn't actually say anything about which port it really is.
USB-C can be either USB-2, USB-3 and Thunderbolt, or even just power.
The USB Micro B 3.0 connector that is used on the Revopoint will also give you USB 3 speeds, atleast up to 5Gb/s, same as many USB-C connectors.
USB-A in USB-3 format of course also handles the full 10Gb/s of USB 3.2 and the power delivery, I have a USB-A on my phones cable that charges with 120W.
While I agree that I would prefer a USB-C connector on Revopoint scanner itself, I'd say that making it a screw locking connector is by far more important. Perhaps it was easier to get a locking Micro-B 3.0 than a USB-C?
A normal USB-B 3.0 would have been better, but even nicer would have been some form of XLR style locking connector, perhaps an Ethercon or similar.
It seems like a lot of other sectors should look at what the event and media production industry uses, they use a lot of really robust connectors that would be perfect for many other things.
Nope don't think that. Just think that one simple cable to do everything is all you need.
Grrrr Erik the 3D Scanner App is Great but don’t shoot with an iPad ;)
That’s also why the scan result was poor ;)
Also using more than 12MP and around 200-400 photos does help - specifically when made with a zoom lens which has a better DoF range ;)
Right on the Nail again Eric :-)
You only get what you pay for.
It should be easy in 2023.
Even with £$6k scanners I remain disappointed.
‘Reverse-engineering’ days should be gone by now too.
We could laugh together about the number of callers who want to ‘just pop round for a quick scan and print’! :-)
Hi Eric Strebel! Thank you for your awesome content! Could you do a tutorial on how to make a smooth cardboard sphere?
I am sorry to say, that the hobbyist scanners out there (that goes to both tested scanners) are really bad when it comes to the results and people keep justifying their results. Even worse, the "photogrammetry" scans with Apple products is obviously much worse.
I would have thought that you Eric could easily afford an industrial scanner like the GOM Scan 1 for example. It costs much more, but the resulting data is worth it! You get crisp edges, an easy workflow but also much more possibilities on how to use and inspect the data!
Wow imagine not using a Mac and actually having pc and having option. No way why would anyone do that.
Sounds like torture, have at it.
3DMakerpro is taking a long time to get back to me about my scanner. I bought directly from my website. But its starting to feel like a scam.
did you get your scanner out there?
still.not.there.yet #sigh
I'm still using photogrammetry... longer processing but guaranteed workflow and results .. even if processing is using more time? :-)
Soon hopefully!
Stick with the shining 3d lineup for 5-7k. The whale should be a $800-1200 scanner max
you simply do things wrong with Revopoint scanner ...
It's way easier and use it in my work ....
Dunno, might be doing it wrong, or the product is not designed correct? Scanners just suck! They are tethered to a computer with a cable and they have no screens to see what you are doing, just not an acceptable work flow or UI for such a product.
Why is the whale selling for$7200. That's nuts
Good question
The whales accessories and software looks like the creality lizard's
Maybe because 3DMakerPro designed Lizard 3D scanner for Creality ;)
Yeah, not sure you're qualified to review anything... Let's begin with the attitude... I should just be able to push a button...
Yeah....sure...
Let's talk about using apple products... explains your attitude...
Not as it should be? Sure, go spend $2,500 to 10k.... much better quality...
We won't even talk about your methodology, or lack of....😂
To each his own