Although I am an SDA of long standing and a retired pastor, I genuinely appreciated the sincerity of Teresa's story. I especially appreciate her stand regarding abortion and am dismayed that the church seems to consider life only beginning at the first breath.
I have told myself many times, that the truth will withstand scrutiny.. and if it doesn’t then it’s not the truth. Great testimony thank you for sharing.
Great interview, thank you. When I left the SDA church it was very difficult and the book, "It's ok not to be a Seventh Day Adventist" gave me comfort. I read most of it but I would keep the book out and look at the title everyday to remind myself.
Its amazing how even when an individual may leave the SDA movement, the locks within their head of Adventism will remain and may take some time for them to be dismantled.(Saying this out of personal experience)
Indeed...just think of how John the baptist reacted to Jesus while they were both in the womb! God can speak to fetuses and reveal things to them...how amazing is that!
@@okwijames947 You do realize that by claiming salvation/rest on Saturdays only, you are not saved the other 6 days of the week where you have to WORK? SDAs = saved on Saturdays Christians = saved 24/7/365
I also loved the part where she said "don't be afraid and seek truth". SDA church is based on fear and half truths. Yes truth can withstand a nuclear blast, just have to have the courage to step out in faith and be ok with having your ideas challenged. In the end I believe if you're an honest truth-seeker it will lead you to Christ, but it's a wonderful thing not to have the SDA baggage.
I never would have understood why abortion was wrong until I left the SDA movement and my heart was opened to real knowledge of the right to life I found in the Christian community. I’m so proud of her for taking a stance for the most vulnerable souls! It makes me think about how Jesus stated that it would be better for a mil stone to bring one to the bottom of the sea if they hurt children. Also This idea of the breath being the soul of a baby is similar in Islam too 😢 they also believe the abortion is ok. Demonic doctrine.
@@okwijames947 I never said anything about encouraging- that a straw man and you’re barring false witness. I think you’re not willing to accept the hypocrisy of the organization.
Interesting perspective However the doctrines of Catholicism is filtered through the Pope and through Priest. How does one follow Catholicism without that influence? In some ways Adventism and Catholicism seem similar……
Perhaps that is correct, I do not know everything about Catholicism, However the church that is shown in the Book of Acts does not seem similar to the Catholic Church. What is the role of Mary, the role of confession to a priest instead of directly going to Christ? Praying to Saints? It just seems a complicated way to understand the Gospel…..
“The traditional assertion of Catholics in this matter is that each pope has the totality and supremacy of the power Christ left on earth for the building up of the kingdom of God. The pope is said to have the plenitudo potestatis, or fullness of power. His authority, direct from Christ after the manner of a vicar, extends equally directly to each man, woman and child committed to his care, namely all men. This fact of papal primacy has been denied on numerous occasions, but chiefly in five great eras of the Church's history.” from Catholic culture website
Also what I initially meant by my comment was that both religious ideologies have a certain lens in which the Gospel in interpreted. Honestly all churches have their roots in Catholicism. The Reformation set up this multi denominational system we have now.
@@keke7085 So what is your point. Christ left a leader in charge of His Church that has the final say in matters of dogma and morals. As a protestant you believe He gave you that same power. I, instead of trusting myself trust the wise men that came before me for two thousand years. The Pope always rules under the guidance of the Holy Spirit when he makes a final ruling on the chair of Peter or ex cathedra. Just a note: Catholic culture is not an official website of the Church I suggest you go to the website of the Vatican.
12:36 oh the horrible memories that invokes - not discuss, not debate, but vicious arguments about what the preacher said wrong, what egw really meant - funny how they weren’t that passionate about The Bible
I really relate to this, even though i still go to church on Sabbath but i always gather with other believers from other churches. And i believe is the people in the Adventist church that makes it so un understandable. I was raised Adventist, but the moment i started reading the bible for myself, thats when church began in me and i wouldn't take anything from SOP. But so far i havent found anything that is wrong with the books just that i think the Adventist organization has become something that it was not supposed to be. Im a person who keeps the Sabbath and waits for the second coming of God . And Christ is my salvation not by works 🙏 love your testimony
Free will means you can choose to believe ex31:12-18 or not. Of coarse every decision a human makes can effect accepting the offer of Grace by having a distorted view if faith and where the Word would lead us . Unlikely He would want us to worship the power that thinks to change times and laws. Obviously when it repeatedly says "if you love me obey my commandments" there is a reason. Hebrews 10:26 ...makes it clear that open rebellion isn't an option. Psa119:160 shows clearly the law is eternal. Then throw in james 2:10 the mix and all of a sudden certain choices can cause our destruction. Justice without mercy when the plague s fall is no joke. Maybe figure out what we are clinging to that God must ultimately destroy...and let it go before probation closes.
I guess that is another video! But here's a quick answer: When you realize how duped you were your entire life about Adventism, how you were suckered into believing a bunch of lies, I then took it another step. What if we were also told lies about Catholicism? So with reluctance, I started actually studying what Catholics believe and it freaked me out. There was indeed a conspiracy by Protestants to slander Catholics in SOME respects. Like the whole "Catholics believe we can work ourselves to heaven" myth. It's not only Adventists that had been passing along fake history, so has Protestantism. I'm not insulting them any more than I'm insulting Adventists. You repeat the lies you were told. It's just there is so much animosity between Catholics and Protestants that very often, they can't sit down and listen to each other. There is very, very little that actually separates them in major doctrines.
It's really none of your business which church she joined quite frankly. She said she went to different denominations 4 times per week & found that the different denominations had more in common than differences, which canNOT be said of SDA...
Can't we see all of this coming to fruition? What is the correct way is Gods way. IT in not the people that Elen White spoke about it the organization. Or the seat of the papacy. The truth in stand the test of time 🙏🙏🙏❤️
@@fernmunroe9483Colossians 2:16 says the Sabbath is no longer binding upon Christians. So if you obeyed the Word of the Lord thy God you wouldn’t claim it’s the “Seal of God”🙏🏼
What? Huh? Matthew 5: 17-18 You are inconsistent, here is why; the Law and the Prophets includes the entire mosaic covenant (613 commands) by your logic, since heaven and earth is still here you should be keeping all of those!! But no, your prophet told you that the decalogue, the food laws and tithing rules still stands but away with the others. I hope you know that the Israelites didn't have the option to pick what they obeyed, neither did they view the law in parts - it was one unit. You forgot "till all be fulfilled"
@@randolphsloan2263 "The first ones to use the name of Jesus something like 'Yahshuah' were Renaissance occultists.... In Renaissance occultist works, this pentagrammaton (or five-letter divine name) was frequently arranged around a mystic pentagram, where each of the five Hebrew letters י ה ש ו ה was placed at one of the points (the letter shin ש was always placed at the upward-pointing vertex of the pentagram)."
Thank you Teresa for strengthening my faith in Adventism. I had questions as to why you left Adventism to become a Catholic. You have confirmed my suspicion: you were not a converted Adventist, and its crystal clear in your disbelief in the 11 chapters of Genesis. God spoke to Moses in-person and instructed him to write the chapters we are expected to read for our spiritual benefit, but you, Teresa, Myles, and others cherry pick what you want to read and believe. Then you claim you are the true Christians. Your beliefs are based on philosophy (human theories) and evolution and some portions of the bible. On the other hand, Adventists accept the whole bible as the inspired Word of God. EGW, whom you attack, also believed in the entire Bible. Folks, I urge you to read EGW's writings with no preconceived ideas so you understand and know who she was and what she stood for. We believe she was inspired by God but is not above the bible. She will be the first one to admit it in her writings. I stand for the truth and God's Sabbath, the day he blessed and sanctified. No other day was blessed and sanctified by God.
Thank you Benita for strengthening our convictions that Adventism is not Christian. You have confirmed our suspicions that being a “converted Adventist” is something different than a converted Christian. Even if this is the case I praise God that she was NOT a truly “converted Adventist.” Adventism cherry picks what they want to read and believe. Then you claim that you are the true Christians. Your beliefs are based on human wisdom (EGW, Hiram Edson, SDA founders…) and some portions of the Bible. On the other hand, Christian’s accept the whole Bible as the word of God. EGW, whom “we attack” contradicted entire swaths of the Bible including - most egregiously- the simple, plain, beautiful, wonderful, holy gospel of Jesus Christ. I too urge YOU to read EGW’s writings with no preconcieved ideas so you know who she was and what she stood for. I believe she was inspired (by someone else) and Adventism does hold her above the Bible. Of course she’s the first one to admit it in her writings, this is necessary for those who deceive. I too stand for truth and sabbath in Christ, the one whom he sent and exalted “to the highest place”. “The name “above names”. Your rejection of this women’s testimony is pure ad hominem from the get go, but I understand. I too was once blind but God, in his mercy and grace, opened my eyes to the truth. I pray that the Lord would bestow that same mercy upon you and all other Adventists as I know the weight of the chains that shackle them.
I Praise God for the truth regardless what is said. I am glad a time is coming when the real truth will be revealed by Christ himself. We can argue back and forth , bur the truth remains the same. Let us agree to disagree.
@@benitamuzamhindo1464you're not an honest person and you need to stop relying on "the truth will be revealed." it is just a cultic scare tactic. The truth is already revealed in Jesus Christ just as the bible told us in Hebrews 1: 1-4
Honestly this is getting so tiresome. I've been hearing the same rhetoric over and over and have come to believe that our church is under such attack. It is a major factor why Jesus is/must come soon. At the risk of sounding judgemental, her conversion did not seem genuine or Bible based, but rather superficial and influenced by like minded liberal SDAs. I love her intro...she builds up her intellectualism as if that is what enabled her to reach a greater light? Her own admissions truly show that her religion was always superficial. I don't blame her completely, but rather her parents and many around her never introduced her to a real loving Jesus...it's very sad!!😢 Hope she's happy now. Ultimately at the end, we will all be accountable to God alone for our decisions, our hearts and actions... Religion and doctrine can often be conflicting, if one does not know how to differentiate between the two...also very sad!😢
Don't worry. Going by the low caliber/word salad/grammatically incorrect/inadequately punctuated comments regularly posted here by SDAs, there is nary any intellectualism to be found amongst the vast majority.
Her "conversion" is not bible based? Her main problem was abortion. That sin of murder is even found in the ten commandments and you claim her decision isn't bible based? She had no "conversion" when she left the sda church, she just left the sda church and changed membership. You can tell by her spirit and love that she's been a child of God from a very young age. That's the difference in sda and Christians. Christians acknowledge and celebrate someones decision or conversion to trust Jesus to be their God and savior. Sda celebrate the "conversion" to the sda church regardless of someone's already trusting in Jesus or not.
@@truthingrace3594 Our own conversion cannot and must not be based on 'feelings' or the 'influence' of others, but rather on biblical facts and principles that will lead us to a true relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ. With regard to the abortion issue, while SDAs understand that it is a sin, we also understand that it is a moral issue as well which should never be politicized or legislated. While we do believe in the separation of religion and state... unfortunately, evangelicals do not. Legislating and passing laws that prohibit abortion, will not deter women from doing so if they so wish! Why? ...because "the heart is wicked above all things...". Sin will continue to exist as long as we live in this sinful world. Sin will only be eradicated forever when Christ returns as king of kings...amen! Ms. G. as an SDA member acknowledged that her aim was to become politically involved, seeking to legislate/implement anti-abortion laws. While her intent may have been good and honorable, her actions were aggressive, misguided and anti-biblical. We as Christians are never to assume the role of judge and jury, nor are we called to become politically involved... but to simply present the gospel truth according to the Word. Abortion is a moral decision which every woman must make! Of course, it is vital that we provide good Christian counsel to women in making the right decision. In addition, mothers should be led to understand in love that someday they alone will stand before the Lord and be accountable for her decision to abort their own child, but the final decision must ultimately be theirs. If we as Christians fail to provide counsel and pray with these mothers, we as Christians will be guilty before the Lord for not doing our work in this matter as well.
The real question is: "WHERE in the Gospel of Christ - in the New Testament - that Christ, Himself, a Jew, commanded observance of the Jewish Sabbath! God Commanded observance of the Sabbath for Israel, His people, in Old Testament times! The other nations (Gentiles) were not considered "People of God," until the coming of Jesus Christ! SDA'S can observe the Sabbath; they can keep the Sabbath - but none can show WHERE Christ gave THAT command! Neither can they come out and say that Ellen G. White claim to have seen the Ten Commandments in Heaven and that the "Sabbath was bathed in light!" This is why SDA'S keep the Sabbath but cling to the law of Moses because that's the only place where the Sabbath command can be found: In the Old Testament, in the Law of Moses - to the 12 Tribes of Israel. It is NOT found in the Law of Christ!😊 WHERE in the Bible does it say that Moses spoke to the Gentiles? Or God, for that matter, during the giving of the Law? And let me tell you what SDA'S don't teach: The Ten Commandments encapsulates over 600 Laws You Cannot "obey" the Ten Commandments, the Law, leaving out the others.... You break one, you break ALL - and that doesn't refer to not keeping the Sabbath Commandment which God did not give to the Church - Body of Christ! Final question: WHERE were the Christians in Old Testament? Scripture please....
@@camillaa.5231 FYI the 4th Commandment(Sabbath) is not! A Jewish Sabbath it’s the Sabbath of the Lord,Christ clearly said in Mark 2:27-28 KJV “And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: [28] Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.” Are you a HuMAN Being? Lastly in Hebrews the NEW COVENANT WAS MADE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL Notice: Hebrews 8:8 & 10 KJV [8]For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL and with the house of Judah: [10]For this is the covenant that I will make with the HOUSE OF ISRAEL after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people” So please explain this since you believe you under the New Covenant; Old or New it’s still with Israel.
The serpent in the garden of Eden is back again with selling adventism negatively, you can't deceive us with clear scriptures, Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy six days shall work be done BUT the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord your God, Sabbath is FOR God your God 😅😅😅😅😅 you can tattoo Myles your body the way you want But you can not tattoo Sabbath hehehehe
Adventists really believe they keep sabbath according to the old Testament? Go read all instructions about sabbath keeping in the OT, and you'll see how deceived you are.
Although I am an SDA of long standing and a retired pastor, I genuinely appreciated the sincerity of Teresa's story. I especially appreciate her stand regarding abortion and am dismayed that the church seems to consider life only beginning at the first breath.
I have told myself many times, that the truth will withstand scrutiny.. and if it doesn’t then it’s not the truth. Great testimony thank you for sharing.
Thanks @Teresa Beem for sharing your testimony. Thank you @Answering Adventism for all that you do. Your Catholic brother Robert from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
Great interview, thank you. When I left the SDA church it was very difficult and the book, "It's ok not to be a Seventh Day Adventist" gave me comfort. I read most of it but I would keep the book out and look at the title everyday to remind myself.
Oh that is so nice to hear. "It's okay NOT to be a Seventh-Day Adventist" was my daily mantra for years while leaving. Teresa Beem
Its amazing how even when an individual may leave the SDA movement, the locks within their head of Adventism will remain and may take some time for them to be dismantled.(Saying this out of personal experience)
Life begins at conception! Ps 51:5,6
Jer 1:4,5
Yes it does.
Indeed...just think of how John the baptist reacted to Jesus while they were both in the womb! God can speak to fetuses and reveal things to them...how amazing is that!
Everyday is sabbath with jesus.
Amen
Amen!
I prefer the blessed seventh day Sabbath by God the creator in Genesis 2:1-3
@@okwijames947 You do realize that by claiming salvation/rest on Saturdays only, you are not saved the other 6 days of the week where you have to WORK?
SDAs = saved on Saturdays
Christians = saved 24/7/365
Where does it say that? Genius give me one bible verse that says Jesus is our Sabbath.
Life is so important to God. Abortion is wrong and the church also took a wrong stance on the Covid issue as well.
Brilliant thank you Myles for arranging this. Love to hear more.
Amen Sister. God is faithful to keep you you must leave the cult and be born again
What gets me is the abortion issue is met with a shrug of the shoulders by so many SDAs 😮
🥱💅 "Ho hum. Now as I was saying about the Sabbath..."
I also loved the part where she said "don't be afraid and seek truth". SDA church is based on fear and half truths. Yes truth can withstand a nuclear blast, just have to have the courage to step out in faith and be ok with having your ideas challenged. In the end I believe if you're an honest truth-seeker it will lead you to Christ, but it's a wonderful thing not to have the SDA baggage.
As a new born christian, never been an sda, to me Sunday is not the new sabbath. Jesus is.
I never would have understood why abortion was wrong until I left the SDA movement and my heart was opened to real knowledge of the right to life I found in the Christian community. I’m so proud of her for taking a stance for the most vulnerable souls! It makes me think about how Jesus stated that it would be better for a mil stone to bring one to the bottom of the sea if they hurt children. Also This idea of the breath being the soul of a baby is similar in Islam too 😢 they also believe the abortion is ok. Demonic doctrine.
@@Jessaba who in the adventism world encourages abortion????? I think some of you lack what to say
@@okwijames947 I never said anything about encouraging- that a straw man and you’re barring false witness. I think you’re not willing to accept the hypocrisy of the organization.
Thank God for HIS merciful deliverance
That's an awesome story. I've watched it twice already.
Interesting perspective
However the doctrines of Catholicism is filtered through the Pope and through Priest.
How does one follow Catholicism without that influence?
In some ways Adventism and Catholicism seem similar……
Your comment shows that you really don't understand Catholicism.
Perhaps that is correct, I do not know everything about Catholicism,
However the church that is shown in the Book of Acts does not seem similar to the Catholic Church.
What is the role of Mary, the role of confession to a priest instead of directly going to Christ?
Praying to Saints?
It just seems a complicated way to understand the Gospel…..
“The traditional assertion of Catholics in this matter is that each pope has the totality and supremacy of the power Christ left on earth for the building up of the kingdom of God. The pope is said to have the plenitudo potestatis, or fullness of power. His authority, direct from Christ after the manner of a vicar, extends equally directly to each man, woman and child committed to his care, namely all men. This fact of papal primacy has been denied on numerous occasions, but chiefly in five great eras of the Church's history.”
from Catholic culture website
Also what I initially meant by my comment was that both religious ideologies have a certain lens in which the Gospel in interpreted.
Honestly all churches have their roots in Catholicism.
The Reformation set up this multi denominational system we have now.
@@keke7085 So what is your point. Christ left a leader in charge of His Church that has the final say in matters of dogma and morals. As a protestant you believe He gave you that same power. I, instead of trusting myself trust the wise men that came before me for two thousand years. The Pope always rules under the guidance of the Holy Spirit when he makes a final ruling on the chair of Peter or ex cathedra.
Just a note: Catholic culture is not an official website of the Church I suggest you go to the website of the Vatican.
Thanks!
It may be ok "not to be Seventh-day Adventist," But it's not ok to be deluded!
12:36 oh the horrible memories that invokes - not discuss, not debate, but vicious arguments about what the preacher said wrong, what egw really meant - funny how they weren’t that passionate about The Bible
I really relate to this, even though i still go to church on Sabbath but i always gather with other believers from other churches. And i believe is the people in the Adventist church that makes it so un understandable. I was raised Adventist, but the moment i started reading the bible for myself, thats when church began in me and i wouldn't take anything from SOP. But so far i havent found anything that is wrong with the books just that i think the Adventist organization has become something that it was not supposed to be. Im a person who keeps the Sabbath and waits for the second coming of God . And Christ is my salvation not by works 🙏 love your testimony
Amen 🙂
Free will means you can choose to believe ex31:12-18 or not. Of coarse every decision a human makes can effect accepting the offer of Grace by having a distorted view if faith and where the Word would lead us . Unlikely He would want us to worship the power that thinks to change times and laws. Obviously when it repeatedly says "if you love me obey my commandments" there is a reason. Hebrews 10:26 ...makes it clear that open rebellion isn't an option. Psa119:160 shows clearly the law is eternal. Then throw in james 2:10 the mix and all of a sudden certain choices can cause our destruction. Justice without mercy when the plague s fall is no joke. Maybe figure out what we are clinging to that God must ultimately destroy...and let it go before probation closes.
Howdy
@donnajones. What are their stances on both issues? I live in Europe and I guess they took a different approach in the US. Sincerely curious
So you traded in one false Jesus for another?
Well narrow rd and wide rd.
@@lindaschipansky4429 Adventism isn’t the narrow road.
@@answeringadventism It's a narrow rd or wide rd for any human on this earth. All religions have good and awful people.
How could you ever.justify joining g the Catholuc church...??????
I guess that is another video! But here's a quick answer:
When you realize how duped you were your entire life about Adventism, how you were suckered into believing a bunch of lies, I then took it another step. What if we were also told lies about Catholicism? So with reluctance, I started actually studying what Catholics believe and it freaked me out. There was indeed a conspiracy by Protestants to slander Catholics in SOME respects. Like the whole "Catholics believe we can work ourselves to heaven" myth. It's not only Adventists that had been passing along fake history, so has Protestantism. I'm not insulting them any more than I'm insulting Adventists. You repeat the lies you were told. It's just there is so much animosity between Catholics and Protestants that very often, they can't sit down and listen to each other. There is very, very little that actually separates them in major doctrines.
Clown comment...obviously didn't even listen to her story...
It's really none of your business which church she joined quite frankly. She said she went to different denominations 4 times per week & found that the different denominations had more in common than differences, which canNOT be said of SDA...
At least the Catholic church is pro-life, which canNOT be said of SDA.
@@kimartist absolutely nailed it! 💯
Can't we see all of this coming to fruition? What is the correct way is Gods way. IT in not the people that Elen White spoke about it the organization. Or the seat of the papacy. The truth in stand the test of time 🙏🙏🙏❤️
Ellen White was a false prophet
Don’t listen to Ellen White. Read Scripture
@@deus_vult8111 I agree with just reading scripture the thing is scripture let s you know the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God 🙏
@@fernmunroe9483Colossians 2:16 says the Sabbath is no longer binding upon Christians. So if you obeyed the Word of the Lord thy God you wouldn’t claim it’s the “Seal of God”🙏🏼
Word salad 🥗
Too many typos.
Can't understand what you're trying to say!
Heaven and earth is still here.. the Sabbath remains. !!
What are you talking about?
Jesus gives peace with God. That’s the sabbath the law points to.
What? Huh?
Matthew 5: 17-18
You are inconsistent, here is why; the Law and the Prophets includes the entire mosaic covenant (613 commands) by your logic, since heaven and earth is still here you should be keeping all of those!! But no, your prophet told you that the decalogue, the food laws and tithing rules still stands but away with the others. I hope you know that the Israelites didn't have the option to pick what they obeyed, neither did they view the law in parts - it was one unit.
You forgot "till all be fulfilled"
I did not forget... you all have defaulted. Torah is from Yahshuah...
@@randolphsloan2263 "The first ones to use the name of Jesus something like 'Yahshuah' were Renaissance occultists.... In Renaissance occultist works, this pentagrammaton (or five-letter divine name) was frequently arranged around a mystic pentagram, where each of the five Hebrew letters י ה ש ו ה was placed at one of the points (the letter shin ש was always placed at the upward-pointing vertex of the pentagram)."
Elk!
So she
6:22
Thank you Teresa for strengthening my faith in Adventism. I had questions as to why you left Adventism to become a Catholic. You have confirmed my suspicion: you were not a converted Adventist, and its crystal clear in your disbelief in the 11 chapters of Genesis. God spoke to Moses in-person and instructed him to write the chapters we are expected to read for our spiritual benefit, but you, Teresa, Myles, and others cherry pick what you want to read and believe. Then you claim you are the true Christians. Your beliefs are based on philosophy (human theories) and evolution and some portions of the bible. On the other hand, Adventists accept the whole bible as the inspired Word of God. EGW, whom you attack, also believed in the entire Bible. Folks, I urge you to read EGW's writings with no preconceived ideas so you understand and know who she was and what she stood for. We believe she was inspired by God but is not above the bible. She will be the first one to admit it in her writings. I stand for the truth and God's Sabbath, the day he blessed and sanctified. No other day was blessed and sanctified by God.
Are you that ignorant Catholics also have Mass on a Saturday
AKA: "Whistling in the graveyard."
Thank you Benita for strengthening our convictions that Adventism is not Christian. You have confirmed our suspicions that being a “converted Adventist” is something different than a converted Christian. Even if this is the case I praise God that she was NOT a truly “converted Adventist.” Adventism cherry picks what they want to read and believe. Then you claim that you are the true Christians. Your beliefs are based on human wisdom (EGW, Hiram Edson, SDA founders…) and some portions of the Bible. On the other hand, Christian’s accept the whole Bible as the word of God. EGW, whom “we attack” contradicted entire swaths of the Bible including - most egregiously- the simple, plain, beautiful, wonderful, holy gospel of Jesus Christ. I too urge YOU to read EGW’s writings with no preconcieved ideas so you know who she was and what she stood for. I believe she was inspired (by someone else) and Adventism does hold her above the Bible. Of course she’s the first one to admit it in her writings, this is necessary for those who deceive. I too stand for truth and sabbath in Christ, the one whom he sent and exalted “to the highest place”. “The name “above names”.
Your rejection of this women’s testimony is pure ad hominem from the get go, but I understand. I too was once blind but God, in his mercy and grace, opened my eyes to the truth. I pray that the Lord would bestow that same mercy upon you and all other Adventists as I know the weight of the chains that shackle them.
I Praise God for the truth regardless what is said. I am glad a time is coming when the real truth will be revealed by Christ himself. We can argue back and forth , bur the truth remains the same. Let us agree to disagree.
@@benitamuzamhindo1464you're not an honest person and you need to stop relying on "the truth will be revealed." it is just a cultic scare tactic. The truth is already revealed in Jesus Christ just as the bible told us in Hebrews 1: 1-4
Honestly this is getting so tiresome. I've been hearing the same rhetoric over and over and have come to believe that our church is under such attack. It is a major factor why Jesus is/must come soon.
At the risk of sounding judgemental, her conversion did not seem genuine or Bible based, but rather superficial and influenced by like minded liberal SDAs.
I love her intro...she builds up her intellectualism as if that is what enabled her to reach a greater light?
Her own admissions truly show that her religion was always superficial. I don't blame her completely, but rather her parents and many around her never introduced her to a real loving Jesus...it's very sad!!😢 Hope she's happy now.
Ultimately at the end, we will all be accountable to God alone for our decisions, our hearts and actions...
Religion and doctrine can often be conflicting, if one does not know how to differentiate between the two...also very sad!😢
@@judithirizarry9952 bizarre interpretation of what was said. But expected.
Don't worry. Going by the low caliber/word salad/grammatically incorrect/inadequately punctuated comments regularly posted here by SDAs, there is nary any intellectualism to be found amongst the vast majority.
Her "conversion" is not bible based? Her main problem was abortion. That sin of murder is even found in the ten commandments and you claim her decision isn't bible based?
She had no "conversion" when she left the sda church, she just left the sda church and changed membership. You can tell by her spirit and love that she's been a child of God from a very young age.
That's the difference in sda and Christians. Christians acknowledge and celebrate someones decision or conversion to trust Jesus to be their God and savior. Sda celebrate the "conversion" to the sda church regardless of someone's already trusting in Jesus or not.
@@truthingrace3594
Our own conversion cannot and must not be based on 'feelings' or the 'influence' of others, but rather on biblical facts and principles that will lead us to a true relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ.
With regard to the abortion issue, while SDAs understand that it is a sin, we also understand that it is a moral issue as well which should never be politicized or legislated. While we do believe in the separation of religion and state... unfortunately, evangelicals do not.
Legislating and passing laws that prohibit abortion, will not deter women from doing so if they so wish! Why? ...because "the heart is wicked above all things...". Sin will continue to exist as long as we live in this sinful world. Sin will only be eradicated forever when Christ returns as king of kings...amen!
Ms. G. as an SDA member acknowledged that her aim was to become politically involved, seeking to legislate/implement anti-abortion laws. While her intent may have been good and honorable, her actions were aggressive, misguided and anti-biblical. We as Christians are never to assume the role of judge and jury, nor are we called to become politically involved... but to simply present the gospel truth according to the Word.
Abortion is a moral decision which every woman must make!
Of course, it is vital that we provide good Christian counsel to women in making the right decision. In addition, mothers should be led to understand in love that someday they alone will stand before the Lord and be accountable for her decision to abort their own child, but the final decision must ultimately be theirs.
If we as Christians fail to provide counsel and pray with these mothers, we as Christians will be guilty before the Lord for not doing our work in this matter as well.
@@judithirizarry9952 You're not aware that SDA hospitals provide abortions to SDAs?
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Amen Mom! Never gonna happen!
Sunday can never be the Sabbath. !! You are out of your mind!!
Sabbath keeping is for then that believe that their works will save them, for the rest of us "faith in Christ" do it
Christians rest in God EVERYDAY!!
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Okay, Pharisee.
Attending church is "NOT" keeping the Sabbath...
All of you change the words of God like a pharasseee!
You can't even spell right, so there's that 🤷🏻♀️
Where in the Bible Sunday is the new Sabbath? Where does God say that?
The real question is: "WHERE in the Gospel of Christ - in the New Testament - that Christ, Himself, a Jew, commanded observance of the Jewish Sabbath!
God Commanded observance of the Sabbath for Israel, His people, in Old Testament times! The other nations (Gentiles) were not considered "People of God," until the coming of Jesus Christ!
SDA'S can observe the Sabbath; they can keep the Sabbath - but none can show WHERE Christ gave THAT command! Neither can they come out and say that Ellen G. White claim to have seen the Ten Commandments in Heaven and that the "Sabbath was bathed in light!" This is why SDA'S keep the Sabbath but cling to the law of Moses because that's the only place where the Sabbath command can be found: In the Old Testament, in the Law of Moses - to the 12 Tribes of Israel. It is NOT found in the Law of Christ!😊
WHERE in the Bible does it say that Moses spoke to the Gentiles? Or God, for that matter, during the giving of the Law? And let me tell you what SDA'S don't teach: The Ten Commandments encapsulates over 600 Laws
You Cannot "obey" the Ten Commandments, the Law, leaving out the others.... You break one, you break ALL - and that doesn't refer to not keeping the Sabbath Commandment which God did not give to the Church - Body of Christ!
Final question: WHERE were the Christians in Old Testament? Scripture please....
@@camillaa.5231 FYI the 4th Commandment(Sabbath) is not! A Jewish Sabbath it’s the Sabbath of the Lord,Christ clearly said in Mark 2:27-28 KJV “And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: [28] Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.” Are you a HuMAN Being? Lastly in Hebrews the NEW COVENANT WAS MADE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL Notice: Hebrews 8:8 & 10 KJV [8]For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL and with the house of Judah:
[10]For this is the covenant that I will make with the HOUSE OF ISRAEL after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people” So please explain this since you believe you under the New Covenant; Old or New it’s still with Israel.
Admits old/new covenants made with Israel.
Denies old covenant (incl. Sabbaths) made for Israel.
#cognitivedissonance
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Jesus resurrected on day after Sabbath
He saw Mary first
He saw the men later
But, it was first day of the week
Acts 16:1
The serpent in the garden of Eden is back again with selling adventism negatively, you can't deceive us with clear scriptures, Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy six days shall work be done BUT the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord your God, Sabbath is FOR God your God 😅😅😅😅😅 you can tattoo Myles your body the way you want But you can not tattoo Sabbath hehehehe
Adventists really believe they keep sabbath according to the old Testament? Go read all instructions about sabbath keeping in the OT, and you'll see how deceived you are.