I have a model 1 Genesis with the built in headphone jack and I still tend to start up the game just to listen to that killer intro theme from the genesis version with my earbuds in.
Oh the irony lol, i wouldn’t want anything to do with Nintendo if Howard Lincoln was still president as Nintendo sucked back in the 90s when their censorship bullshit.
@@theretroinggamer1630 graphically and in the sound department the SNES wins but without blood and fatalities what is the point? Plus the Megadrive version doesn't have the lag and more sluggish gameplay the SNES version has... That is why overall the Megadrive version wins
@D core exactly what I was thinking. Every single comparison, no one says the snes plays better. MK2 is more controversial, but as far as MK1 even Ed Boon creator of MK says Genesis played better than Snes.
I was a Food Lion employee in Virginia Beach in the early 90's and our arcade cabinet Golden Axe got replaced with Mortal Kombat. We had a regular named Leslie who noticed it immediately and asked me what's up, did someone break the old game? I told her I wasn't sure, but it got replaced before I came to work earlier in the week. She looked insulted, but curious. I would be helping bag and move carts and catch her eyeing the machine if she was walking in the doors, especially if someone was playing it. It was cool to watch her reactions to the over the top nature of MK. She opened her mouth wide and rubbed her head and went off shopping. About two weeks later the increase in traffic to the machine got too much for her i guess, so she actually put money in the machine and yelled "what do I do now?" at the character select screen. Since I wasn't busy I walked over to show her what little I knew at the time, being a happy go lucky Street Fighter 2 fan. I explained the buttons quick as I could and just watched her get her ass handed to her the first round. My manager, Kent, came over and told me "you go do your job, I'll take it from here". He took over for her and near as I could tell showed her the skills he'd picked up from playing MK after work. I heard Leslie say "Get 'em!" and I shook my head. Yep, we lost another one MK. Thanks, SLX. Time capsule re-buried for another 30 years.
@@damin9913 Even on MKII if you're actually playing them for anything more than looks, the Genesis is still better. The better graphics don't outweigh the combination of janky sprite response & garbage hit boxes. Though on SNES it was all about Street Fighter II anyway.
I still remember seeing advertisements for Mortal Monday on the backs of gaming magazines that I would take to school with me. I recall telling my best friend at the time all about it and showing him articles on Mortal Kombat and we were so stoked. Needless to say, Mortal Monday came. He bought a copy for the SNES and I got mine on the Genesis. The rest is history. The 1990s. What a time. Walking the halls of my school, reading gaming magazines about Mortal Kombat, Earthworm Jim, etc and going straight for my Genesis after school.
The fact that hes saying snes "blows it out of the water by a mile, not even a debate" shows how subjective this is. I honestly dont see it. They just look different. Not better or worse. Like hes on crack.
Am i trippin? Hes acting like its the difference between ps1 to ps2 and really theyre just different. Neither look better or worse to me. Bc they arent.
@@mrdgenerate- They were that different in comparison. You had to have experienced it first hand to know. Those were some classic times! Growing up as a teen in the 90s was just incredible!
LMAO..that "teen" rating on the SEGA Genesis box was the ONLY reason my mom allowed me to have such a hedonistic game in our house.....then I discovered Pandoras glorious code lol.👊💥🇺🇸
Jeremy Bowers I never had the Genesis version and was disappointed that the SNES got the Disney version. I still remember the code enable the blood and fatalities for the Genesis.
I actually prefer the SNES versions of Sub-Zero and Rayden's Fatalities because I think they suit both characters perfectly, since Sub-Zero uses his icy powers to finish off his opponent while shattering them like glass afterwards, and the way Rayden electrocutes his opponent into a pile of bones and ashes also seems more bad-ass than just having their head explode for whatever reason.
Nice sega lord x This has been a debating argument that has been raging on almost 30 years now Its time to put this debate to rest in a coffin once and for all. Thanks Sega lord x
Gotta love how the loss of those sweet licensing fees from the Genesis version of MK1 greatly out-selling the SNES version led Nintendo to relax their censorship policies for the sequel.
@@inlovewithi I'm sure that was a factor, but even so you have the Nintendo USA president proclaiming that they would "never" have this kind of content on their system and then the next year MKII is there with blood when the previous version had a blood code for the Genesis version which led to the Genesis version greatly out-selling the SNES version.
@@yellowblanka6058 It wasn't just Mortal Kombat, the Genesis sold over 40 million worldwide and half was in the US. The Genesis was leading the US for a few years and they started getting desperate for a turnaround. That games violence conference was done to hurt Sega. Also Howard Lincoln was the senior vice president at the time
I remember playing mortal kombat 1, 2 and 3 with friends as a kid. So many hours spent but I’d be shit at playing them these days. I forgot how good these games looked for their time
Your comparison is spot on, the SNES version had better graphics and sound effects for sure but the Genesis not only had the blood and fatalities it also played better and had better music. Matt Furniss was a machine back in the day, he has 40 Genesis games to his credit, most of it is excellent, he's probably made more music for the system than anyone else, he really deserves more praise than he gets.
The fact that hes saying snes "blows it out of the water by a mile, not even a debate" shows how subjective this is. I honestly dont see it. They just look different. Not better or worse. Like hes on crack.
Like here 3:45 how on earth can you cream your pants for the left one over the right one? They literally just look different. Not better or worse. I guess sega is missing certain things and thats a fair complaint. But to say its not even debatable and by a mile and blows it out of the water... hyperbole much?
I dont give af about the sega/snes debate. I literally do not care. I just dont understand how you can look at these and think one shits on the other. Like.. look. 3:45 for real?
When I was growing up I used to defend the SNES version for having better graphics and also Sub Zeros fatality from SNES MK1 also replaced the spine rip in MK2. That said I like the Megadrive version of MK1 even over the Arcade one because of the music and yes it plays better than the SNES one by far. In the old days it was all about how close it was to the Arcade but these days for me I just prefer playing the Megadrive versions of MK1 and 2 even over the Arcade versions due to the changes in the music and it's a good port of the Arcade as far as the playability is concerned and looks quite good too. There is less animation in the Megadrive versions of games but these days it seems minor to me. I also have the Mortal Kombat Kollection but i still find myself playing the Megadrive versions of games as my first choice but I guess it's because for me I didn't play Mortal Kombat in the Arcades even when I found a cabinet in the wild I found it difficult to play. For me Mortal Kombat was played in the home the most and it was all about Sega Megadrive vs Super Nintendo versions at the time
Genesis version is still more fun to play despite the visual upgrade on the super Nintendo. The feel of the Genesis one is more responsive I feel. The SNES version always felt like there was an input delay to me. Maybe I'm an anomaly ?
No, there was an abysmal input delay. I didn't mind the absence of blood in the game, but the delay was a deal-breaker. And while I could see the Genesis version played much better, having been exposed to the visual and audio fidelity of the SNES, that made it hard for me to stomach the ugly Sega version so in the end I consider both very flawed, for different reasons. I think the Sega CD version is much better, but never played it.
I remember having the same experience. Entering a supermarket as a kid and seeing a Mortal Kombat cabinet near the entrance. It was hard not to stare at it since it looked so different than everything else back then. The moment I saw Sub-Zero's fatality I fell in love with the game.
Now that we know so much more about what these consoles were capable of and how games are made, the only limitation was rom size and how big of a cart the publisher wanted to use to turn a profit. A pyron remaster of mk1 would be cool.
Christmas 1993. I got a model 1 Mega Drive and this. I remember it actually because it was the first and last time my dad ever played a video game with us. 10 minutes of my life ended up being the part I remembered the most.
I was 22 years old on "Mortal Monday"......I remember it like it was yesterday......it was a biggest thing back then. The thought of being able to play Mortal Kombat at home was mind blowing.
Plus some versions of Sega CD had a hard time loading MK1. I have the same troubles with Bram Stoker's Dracula on my first generation motorized tray Sega CD
Huge Sega fan, but I felt similar to you when my friends put on the SNES version. You better believe I talked up the blood code as a defense mechanism haha
The fluidity of the movement was a huge consideration and the animation of the lightning on Raiden was mindblowing compared to the Genesis version. I didn't mind the grey blood too much, but overall I cant say "Genesis does" on MK. I never bought either version, but played the SNES version at a friend's house. It was incredible, especially the sound coming from his 27" Toshiba with side-firing stereo speakers. God, we had it good in the 90's.
First time seeing this video, it was super informative and entertaining. This is a superb example on how to be a fan while being objective about pros and cons of the platforms involved. 98% of the Sega fans should learn a lot from your style. Kudos to you!
One thing you didn't mention is that the Mega Drive version is higher resolution. That's often ignored. When dealing with such low resolutions to begin with, the MD's higher res is always instantly obvious to me, even if it's still very low. Hopefully one day a ROM hacker like Pyron makes some _serious_ improvements to this game, like he did with SF2 Remastered. It's another bad MD port that's absolutely perfect for this treatment.
The Game Gear version looked INCREDIBLE for a portable 8 bit game. To be honest my friend who had that impressed more than any of us with our SNES and Genesis versions. The big color pallette on the Game Gear and the small screen made some of the visuals like the character select look better than the Genesis version, emulating on a modern display won't show this, but back in the day it was really impressive. I think the GG system would not have found its second wind in the US if not for that release, it was a system seller at least among my small group of friends in the midwest in the early 90s. There was no good portable version of SFII and GG MK really brought a massively popular fighter to a portable system you could have on road trips.
I was pretty young when MK became debuted, and I distinctly remember being scared by the game xD It is wild to think that this game would spawn several kids' toy lines and a Saturday morning cartoon. Believe it or not tho, the thing that finally got me to give the franchise a shot was the first movie from New Line Cinema, which I still really like to this day
By far the best video comparing these legendary games. We’ll done. What drives me crazy about these games is that you can’t have great gameplay without great graphics and vise versa.
Most people said the Genesis version is better, because of blood - but then, they always played the SNES version... At least my friends did it. I owned the Genesis version first, then I bought the SNES version and I never had problems playing it. The missing blood also never bothered me and once you get used to it, the input lag isn't worse at all. Both are good ports imo. Great times with nice memories back then!
Nah gameplay is horrible on snes mortal Kombat bad input delay ruins game. Mk1 genesis, Mk2 snes, mk3 tie, ultimate mk genesis. That’s the best versions
@@Nobunaga1983 agree. I would even go to say Genesis is more responsive than the arcade. Snes is playable but it feels heavy and clunky. But it's alright when you get use to it. Genesis feels light and ultra responsive. Arcade is in between. Gameplay is everything. Even the creator Ed Boon was quoted saying the Genesis was the best playing home version Edit: he posted it on Twitter saying genesis plays better than snes.
UMK3 is better on Genesis. MK3 is really close. MK2 SNES due to the sheer amount of content cut from the Genesis. I still like the music more and think it plays better though.
The Snes version said Tournament Edition on the box. I do wonder which game was used in more tournaments.. I actually do think Snes feels alot like the Arcade, just slightly less responsive but still has it's weight. While Genesis is like a lighter feeling version, super precise and on point, but lighter and quicker as a result. A punch in the Arcade/Snes has more weight to it, if that makes sense. All that being said I'm use to the Genesis version, that's the one I'm best at. So probably my fav but I like switching it up and appreciate them all.
One of my favorite memories was my dad taking me to the mall after the Dentists and they had JUST gotten MK2 out on the floor and I got to play it while no one else was there... the only time for months that machine wouldn't be surrounded by a fairly large crowd.
My friends and I would play tons of MK tournaments at each other's houses. We played MK on both the Genesis and SNES all depending on whose house we were at. We all pretty much agreed that MK1 was better on the Genesis for gameplay and MK1 on the SNES looked better. When MK2 came out, we all agreed the SNES version was the better version for gameplay & graphics but none of us were bothered with the Genesis version either because that version was good too. In the end it didn't really matter because we all loved MK.
The genesis tracks were all in the arcade... just rearranged and remixed. For example, the palace gates theme was the "continue" countdown theme in the arcade. Otherwise, this video shows perfectly what it was like back then.
Dude, thank you so much! I haven’t watched the end of the video yet to see which one is your pick, but I’m good with it either way knowing that you fully acknowledge the supremacy of the SNES version, it’s only drawback being the blood missing. Most videos discussing the 2 versions seem to overlook or not notice the brilliance of the SNES port and just judge things based on blood. 🙄
Man, the glory days of arcades cabinets in damn near every grocery and convenience store in Civilization, putting your quarter at base of the screen to play winner... Rest In Power FOREVER!
I always thought that graphically, both versions are somewhat equal, with one version having more details here and the other having more details there. But seeing them both dissected like this here, it's obvious that the SNES version is indeed a bit more advanced in that department. I like however how in the Genesis version, the rows of watching monks in the background have a parallax effect just like in the arcade, and maybe it's just me, but it seems that the characters in the SNES version have a slightly more prominent outline around them than their Genesis counterparts, but overall, the SNES version clearly boasts a few more graphical details, like the scrolling clouds in that other stage where the Genesis version has nothing but a boring crystal clear blue sky. Which is odd, as the Genesis usually throws around parallax effects like it’s nothing, but well, clearly not in this game. Interesting!
I was surprised that the Genesis mini didn't have a Mortal Kombat game, Mortal Kombat 1 would've been nice in the Genesis mini along with Street Fighter
Could you cover differences in SNES and Genesis MK2 and same vs type video for MK3? I played SNES version of MK2 and Genesis version of MK back in the day and have fond memories of playing those.
The SNES version has control issues... The Sega CD version is probably the more definitive version over the normal Genesis version (which is the version I owned as a teenager). I'm actually finding myself more likely to play the Sega CD version on my Genesis mini instead of the Genesis version.
I was exposed to Mortal Kombat when I was a kid at a family friend's house and they could afford MK on SNES (I grew up poor and my family had a preowned Sega Master System until the PS1 came out) - even though the SNES version lacked gore, at the time I didn't know this but I was so blown away by such realistic-looking Ninjas, Gymnasts and a Magical Rice Farmer - since that moment I've always had a nostalgic soft spot for MK and this video makes me smile! Great work SLX!
I first had it on the Snes and used the game genie code to make the sweat red. Eventually i traded my neighbor my Snes for his Genesis just so i could play this game uncensored. My mom was mad because she had already bought me a Genesis that i sold before i got the Snes for Christmas. lol. I just had to have the best console version. I was hooked on MK so bad back then.
I agree with all your points here, the sega cd version's character animations look great. The only drawback of having a sega version instead of snes would be if you only had the original 3 button controller to play with.
It also shows how lazy the Genesis Port was. There's no reason why those extra frames of Animation couldn't have been included along with a handful of voices that would have increased the experience greatly
The SNES version looked pretty good, but was missing the blood and had most of the fatalities censored. Genesis, on the other hand, looked and sounded like complete ass in comparison, but at least it had the blood and fatalities intact. No matter which version you chose, it was severely compromised.
I remember there was an ad for a Mortal Kombat 1 port plan for the Sega Saturn back when MK were still all the rage in the mid 90s. It was going to be bundle with MKII I believe and the 2-in-1 bundle were plan to be release for the Sega Saturn, PC (MS-DOS CD), and Game Boy. For some reason the PC and Game Boy versions were released but the Sega Saturn version never did. Had the Saturn version also got release it would had been the closest version of MK1 to the arcade game that we got at the time. i.imgur.com/jQTUalV.jpg gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gameboy/570029-mortal-kombat-and-mortal-kombat-ii/images/1113253
Maybe, but look how the Saturn MKII port turned out : missing speech and loading times in-game, even while performing special moves, which break the gameplay ! A rushed and unoptimized port, while it could have easily been arcade perfect.
@@Shyning77 Yeah but look how Ultimate MK3 turn out, it was spectacular and had less load times. Sure it wouldn't be the best version but it'll be the closest one as it doesn't share hardware limitation with the Genesis. I mean c'mon with only 7 characters, 3 bosses, 7 levels, 7 fatalities, 20 moves and one mode of play how could they screw up the game?
To b e fair, Sega had their own Videogame Rating Council in 1992-1993. Sega did allow Mortal Kombat to have blood, because they could put an MA-13 rating on the box. Nintendo was unwilling to use Sega's Videogame Rating Council cirtificate system, which was something that Sega was trying get the whole industry to adopt. Nintendo treated Mortal Kombat 1 like any other game that passed through their censorship guidelines. After the 1993 violent video game hearings, the ERSB came into place and Nintendo did move to that ratings system and phased out their old censorship guidelines. Though Mortal Kombat 2 did not have an ERSB rating on it. Nintendo let Acclaim use their own warning lable because the ERSB was not ready.
The sounds of Mortal Kombat meant more to me than the gore. What attracted me was the feeling of playing a over the top kung-fu movie. Blood was rarely the reason we watched them, it was all about the rawness of the fighting. So yeah, I preferred the Super Nintendo version as a kid. Alibabahey! Kalikamaha! We screamed that Raiden gibberish all day long!
Can't have blood on the snes but u can freeze ur opponent and break him into pieces, burn them alive, turn them into ashes and throw them down into a bed of spikes but God forbid to add the blood!
I always wondered how gamers originally found out how to do fatalities in the arcade. I found out by word of mouth. The game magazines eventually showed the directions, but how did players know when it first came out?
No mention of the numerous bugs in the Snes version, The terrible hit detection or the fact that it doesn't really play like the arcade version. I think the sprites aren't that far off from the Snes version, it's the animation that's lacking, which shows to be the case when you play the Mega CD version. The Snes character sprites have their own unique problems themselves, but I think they are all perfectly fine visually, it's what you'd expect from those 16 bit system, the Mega Drive is 2 years older than the SNES after all.
Personally I will agree the sound is much better on the SNES version. I was always so jelly of the Genesis version growing up tho, bc of the fatalities. Love your videos !
There are two version of the Sega CD. The retail release did not work with the first model of Sega CD and you had to mail your disc in I and they would send you another copy that would work with the first Sega CD model.
Good stuff.. Your right dude, it was a big let down getting MK for snes as a kid just to find out there was no blood. My friend had the Genny version an I was jealous lol.
at least sub zero's and raiden's fatalities in the snes version are thematicly appropriate, the guys who had to come up with the sensered fatalities on that port clearly did their researching on the lore.
I definitely remember going to Disneyland on a field trip in middle school and there being the censored versions of the MK games. Was kinda funny playing a bloodless version of MKII where you can only do Babalities and Friendships
Funny how Johnny Cages Green Flame” projectile is white instead of GREEN in the Sega versions, oh.. and his Shadow Kick only has one shadow, which also isn’t green like it’s supposed to be. All those overlooked minor details add up and affect its authenticity.
@@ajsingh4545 So console limitations prevented Johnny Cages projectile sprites from being the correct color? The Genesis was more than capable of using shades of green.
@@TheWaynelds well yeah, the genesis can only show 61 colors on screen vs the 100s in the arcade version. Also there is a very apparent sprite limit per scanline so having the multiple shadows will most definitely cause flicker and sprite break up if you know anything about the 16 bit and 8 bit home console. hardware
@SegaLordX thank you so much! I totally thought I was bad at the game when I played the snes version but I knew the inputs were off when looking at the genesis version. Watched your video and it proved my point
Probe must have had some serious lack of knowledge in compression as despite using the same size cartridge there’s barely any sound effects or animation compared to SNES which isn’t a hardware problem but lack of memory on the cart so Sculptured Software obviously where much better with compression.
Yup, can't say I could agree with you more ^^ To be honest, for me the input lag in the SNES version is more of a deal breaker than the actual gore. Yes, gore is very much part of MK's charm, but it doesn't affect the gameplay as much as that lag, which I also imediately noticed when I first played the SNES version. It looks and sounds good, but the Genesis port is indeed better ^^
They should have released or should release a special edition MK1 SNES version where they fixed some of the things that was subpar or that was not liked about the SNES version. Like have blood, have the original fatalities, even add a second fatality for each character, and can be the genesis fatality and snes fatality included, the movement and one second delay be fixed and have the game as fast as mk2 gameplay, have the roundhouse High kick send the player across the screen as mk2, it would be neat even MK 1 was rereleased as an expanded edition like improvement on all the things previously mentioned and include some new levels with original mk1 background styles to expand the game, even add movement or add neat visuals like have the stages daytime then when it’s replayed it’s a night time version of the levels, have the option to include Shao Kahn as the announcer instead of arcade Shang tsung, add and improve the character grunts and yells, include more special moves for each, add reptile to the roster, maybe even Jade, have a special cheat code to play as Shang Tsung or included in character select screen as well, heck even be bold and add Jax as a character as initially intended with his original yellow karate uniform, etc. so much shit can be done and make mk1 and hit again and sought after and reignite interest in the classic mk series
The Mega Drive port is very odd. It uses a 16mb cartridge just like the SNES version and yet there are cuts everywhere: missing animation frames, a simple color swap for Sub-Zero and Scorpion, missing voices, simplified backgrounds... What happened? How come they could fit all this on the 16Mbit SNES cartridge and couldn't on a similar 16Mbit cartridge on the Mega Drive? Probe's work on the presentation looks really bad when you compare to what Sculptured did for the SNES.
I'm pretty sure probe is the answer you're looking for. They had no business porting a high-profile game like this to the Genesis which seems to be with such little effort.
Unfortunately I didn't own either version. I used to play the MS dos version on my 386 on extremely low settings while using the keyboard as my controller. By comparison both these versions of the game are brilliant compared to what I went through as an 11 year old.
I have a model 1 Genesis with the built in headphone jack and I still tend to start up the game just to listen to that killer intro theme from the genesis version with my earbuds in.
Wasn’t it in Q-sound or something? Or was that the CD version 🤔
I remember it sounding great too.
Nothing compared to the fact that with the Model 1, you could plug your hi-fi speakers into that 3.5 mil jack and get room-filling stereo sound.
I love the clip of Howard Lincoln declaring Night Trap would never be on a Nintendo console. You can buy it on the Switch eShop now.
Night Trap was also being developed for the SNES CD until the add on got cancelled. Howard Lincoln was one of the execs that approved it.
is night trap fun
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@@70smebbin no. Its boring
Oh the irony lol, i wouldn’t want anything to do with Nintendo if Howard Lincoln was still president as Nintendo sucked back in the 90s when their censorship bullshit.
You are one of the few SEGA fans that when it comes to flaws, you are 100% honest in your reviews. Props to you my man.
Any comparison video Ive seen with Mk has snes being the better version. They all point out the flaws with segas versions
@@theretroinggamer1630 graphically and in the sound department the SNES wins but without blood and fatalities what is the point? Plus the Megadrive version doesn't have the lag and more sluggish gameplay the SNES version has... That is why overall the Megadrive version wins
@D core exactly what I was thinking. Every single comparison, no one says the snes plays better.
MK2 is more controversial, but as far as MK1 even Ed Boon creator of MK says Genesis played better than Snes.
@@dragonlord83 and better resolution, which affects the gameplay
@@dragonlord83 In sound the snes does not win.
Did you hear those voice samples.
Muffled beyond belief.
I was a Food Lion employee in Virginia Beach in the early 90's and our arcade cabinet Golden Axe got replaced with Mortal Kombat. We had a regular named Leslie who noticed it immediately and asked me what's up, did someone break the old game? I told her I wasn't sure, but it got replaced before I came to work earlier in the week. She looked insulted, but curious. I would be helping bag and move carts and catch her eyeing the machine if she was walking in the doors, especially if someone was playing it. It was cool to watch her reactions to the over the top nature of MK. She opened her mouth wide and rubbed her head and went off shopping. About two weeks later the increase in traffic to the machine got too much for her i guess, so she actually put money in the machine and yelled "what do I do now?" at the character select screen. Since I wasn't busy I walked over to show her what little I knew at the time, being a happy go lucky Street Fighter 2 fan. I explained the buttons quick as I could and just watched her get her ass handed to her the first round. My manager, Kent, came over and told me "you go do your job, I'll take it from here". He took over for her and near as I could tell showed her the skills he'd picked up from playing MK after work. I heard Leslie say "Get 'em!" and I shook my head. Yep, we lost another one MK. Thanks, SLX. Time capsule re-buried for another 30 years.
So did your manager get laid that night?
Thanks for sharing! Love stories like this. Wonder what Leslie is up to these days. I miss those times
ABACABB. Forever in my mind.
Its forever in my mind also it pisses me off whenever anyone tells me another code love you bro lol
I love that it's the name of a Genesis album with one more B, just in case Phil Collins got pissed
@@damin9913
Even on MKII if you're actually playing them for anything more than looks, the Genesis is still better.
The better graphics don't outweigh the combination of janky sprite response & garbage hit boxes.
Though on SNES it was all about Street Fighter II anyway.
same for me as soon as he mentioned the blood in MK 1 I thought ABACABB
@@MistahJigglah genesis was always arcade accurate even if that sacrificed some things
I still remember seeing advertisements for Mortal Monday on the backs of gaming magazines that I would take to school with me. I recall telling my best friend at the time all about it and showing him articles on Mortal Kombat and we were so stoked. Needless to say, Mortal Monday came. He bought a copy for the SNES and I got mine on the Genesis. The rest is history. The 1990s. What a time. Walking the halls of my school, reading gaming magazines about Mortal Kombat, Earthworm Jim, etc and going straight for my Genesis after school.
Das gleiche hab ich auch gemacht.
The fact that hes saying snes "blows it out of the water by a mile, not even a debate" shows how subjective this is. I honestly dont see it. They just look different. Not better or worse. Like hes on crack.
Am i trippin? Hes acting like its the difference between ps1 to ps2 and really theyre just different. Neither look better or worse to me. Bc they arent.
@@mrdgenerate- They were that different in comparison. You had to have experienced it first hand to know. Those were some classic times! Growing up as a teen in the 90s was just incredible!
Genesis: Do a finishing move you get "fatality". SNES: Do a finishing move you get "Finishing Bonus". 😂
Finishing Bonus sends chills down my spine.
@Jumpy Cat he was probably better at getting time boners.
Oh wait that's Virtua Racing.
Jumpy Cat it wasn’t a “Finishing Bonus” nor a “Fatality”, it was an “Entanglement”
LMAO..that "teen" rating on the SEGA Genesis box was the ONLY reason my mom allowed me to have such a hedonistic game in our house.....then I discovered Pandoras glorious code lol.👊💥🇺🇸
Jeremy Bowers I never had the Genesis version and was disappointed that the SNES got the Disney version. I still remember the code enable the blood and fatalities for the Genesis.
Gotta seriously commend you for giving the SNES version the credit it deserved on what it offered over what it couldn't
I actually prefer the SNES versions of Sub-Zero and Rayden's Fatalities because I think they suit both characters perfectly, since Sub-Zero uses his icy powers to finish off his opponent while shattering them like glass afterwards, and the way Rayden electrocutes his opponent into a pile of bones and ashes also seems more bad-ass than just having their head explode for whatever reason.
Nice sega lord x
This has been a debating argument that has been raging on almost 30 years now
Its time to put this debate to rest in a coffin once and for all.
Thanks Sega lord x
Gotta love how the loss of those sweet licensing fees from the Genesis version of MK1 greatly out-selling the SNES version led Nintendo to relax their censorship policies for the sequel.
I thought it had to do with the new ratings system brought on to the industry to counter politicians. Though I could be wrong.
@@inlovewithi I'm sure that was a factor, but even so you have the Nintendo USA president proclaiming that they would "never" have this kind of content on their system and then the next year MKII is there with blood when the previous version had a blood code for the Genesis version which led to the Genesis version greatly out-selling the SNES version.
@@yellowblanka6058 It wasn't just Mortal Kombat, the Genesis sold over 40 million worldwide and half was in the US. The Genesis was leading the US for a few years and they started getting desperate for a turnaround. That games violence conference was done to hurt Sega.
Also Howard Lincoln was the senior vice president at the time
@@Zellio2011 Genesis trash snes solos anyday
@@Ehrle6969 Fun fact: no
I remember playing mortal kombat 1, 2 and 3 with friends as a kid. So many hours spent but I’d be shit at playing them these days. I forgot how good these games looked for their time
People like to hate on Liu Kang’s fatality but when you used it on the Pit it was freaking awesome.
Your comparison is spot on, the SNES version had better graphics and sound effects for sure but the Genesis not only had the blood and fatalities it also played better and had better music.
Matt Furniss was a machine back in the day, he has 40 Genesis games to his credit, most of it is excellent, he's probably made more music for the system than anyone else, he really deserves more praise than he gets.
I thought it played like shit on genesis. It was so slow to me
They were both shit, only version that's worth owning is the sega cd port, and even it has issues
The fact that hes saying snes "blows it out of the water by a mile, not even a debate" shows how subjective this is. I honestly dont see it. They just look different. Not better or worse. Like hes on crack.
Like here 3:45 how on earth can you cream your pants for the left one over the right one? They literally just look different. Not better or worse. I guess sega is missing certain things and thats a fair complaint. But to say its not even debatable and by a mile and blows it out of the water... hyperbole much?
I dont give af about the sega/snes debate. I literally do not care. I just dont understand how you can look at these and think one shits on the other. Like.. look. 3:45 for real?
A shame we didn't see it on the Turbo Grafx-16/Pc Engine. Would have been interesting.
Still have this for my genesis. Even with all the flaws it was still damn fun.
The Genesis has no flaws.
Rod Munch damn right.
Me 2! The Genesis version wasn't arcade perfect but it was still fun!
no flaws??? graphics were shit but the soundtrack kicked ass
The Sega Genesis version is way more fun
I loved the SNES version.
Mowed lawns to pay it off on layaway at K-Mart 😂
Bro, my mom used to that. Drove me to kmart
Tech With Sean at least you didn’t use the money to buy the Lawnmower Man game.
I got the Genesis one because I don't want the uncensored version and it's closer to the arcade version.
I had to clean my Mom’s kitchen from top to bottom, to get two Genesis games: Mortal Kombat and X-Men.
When I was growing up I used to defend the SNES version for having better graphics and also Sub Zeros fatality from SNES MK1 also replaced the spine rip in MK2.
That said I like the Megadrive version of MK1 even over the Arcade one because of the music and yes it plays better than the SNES one by far.
In the old days it was all about how close it was to the Arcade but these days for me I just prefer playing the Megadrive versions of MK1 and 2 even over the Arcade versions due to the changes in the music and it's a good port of the Arcade as far as the playability is concerned and looks quite good too.
There is less animation in the Megadrive versions of games but these days it seems minor to me.
I also have the Mortal Kombat Kollection but i still find myself playing the Megadrive versions of games as my first choice but I guess it's because for me I didn't play Mortal Kombat in the Arcades even when I found a cabinet in the wild I found it difficult to play.
For me Mortal Kombat was played in the home the most and it was all about Sega Megadrive vs Super Nintendo versions at the time
In 1993, you had one or the either. In each case you were stoked to have it.
Genesis version is still more fun to play despite the visual upgrade on the super Nintendo. The feel of the Genesis one is more responsive I feel. The SNES version always felt like there was an input delay to me. Maybe I'm an anomaly ?
No. That's right. And Sega Lord X did mention this in his video. The SNES version has worse responsiveness.
I always felt the genesis played slower 🤷♂️
No, there was an abysmal input delay. I didn't mind the absence of blood in the game, but the delay was a deal-breaker. And while I could see the Genesis version played much better, having been exposed to the visual and audio fidelity of the SNES, that made it hard for me to stomach the ugly Sega version so in the end I consider both very flawed, for different reasons. I think the Sega CD version is much better, but never played it.
Another amazing video, dude! I would just mention the controls, that were a bit clunky in a 3-button Genesis controller
U really had to play the game with a 6 button controller 🎮
I remember having the same experience. Entering a supermarket as a kid and seeing a Mortal Kombat cabinet near the entrance. It was hard not to stare at it since it looked so different than everything else back then. The moment I saw Sub-Zero's fatality I fell in love with the game.
Now that we know so much more about what these consoles were capable of and how games are made, the only limitation was rom size and how big of a cart the publisher wanted to use to turn a profit. A pyron remaster of mk1 would be cool.
Christmas 1993. I got a model 1 Mega Drive and this. I remember it actually because it was the first and last time my dad ever played a video game with us. 10 minutes of my life ended up being the part I remembered the most.
I was 22 years old on "Mortal Monday"......I remember it like it was yesterday......it was a biggest thing back then.
The thought of being able to play Mortal Kombat at home was mind blowing.
Had the SNES version growing up. I had no idea there was even blood in this game until years later haha.
Hell yeah! Glad to see the Sega CD version get some love. I still have mine.
Oh yeah! I remember the load times during the fights in the sega CD! But I still loved the game..
Plus some versions of Sega CD had a hard time loading MK1. I have the same troubles with Bram Stoker's Dracula on my first generation motorized tray Sega CD
Huge Sega fan, but I felt similar to you when my friends put on the SNES version. You better believe I talked up the blood code as a defense mechanism haha
The fluidity of the movement was a huge consideration and the animation of the lightning on Raiden was mindblowing compared to the Genesis version. I didn't mind the grey blood too much, but overall I cant say "Genesis does" on MK. I never bought either version, but played the SNES version at a friend's house. It was incredible, especially the sound coming from his 27" Toshiba with side-firing stereo speakers. God, we had it good in the 90's.
Genesis was the winner!
Neither! Game Gear was better!
First time seeing this video, it was super informative and entertaining. This is a superb example on how to be a fan while being objective about pros and cons of the platforms involved. 98% of the Sega fans should learn a lot from your style. Kudos to you!
One thing you didn't mention is that the Mega Drive version is higher resolution. That's often ignored. When dealing with such low resolutions to begin with, the MD's higher res is always instantly obvious to me, even if it's still very low. Hopefully one day a ROM hacker like Pyron makes some _serious_ improvements to this game, like he did with SF2 Remastered. It's another bad MD port that's absolutely perfect for this treatment.
Food Lion, now that's a name I've not heard in a long time.
The Game Gear version looked INCREDIBLE for a portable 8 bit game. To be honest my friend who had that impressed more than any of us with our SNES and Genesis versions. The big color pallette on the Game Gear and the small screen made some of the visuals like the character select look better than the Genesis version, emulating on a modern display won't show this, but back in the day it was really impressive. I think the GG system would not have found its second wind in the US if not for that release, it was a system seller at least among my small group of friends in the midwest in the early 90s. There was no good portable version of SFII and GG MK really brought a massively popular fighter to a portable system you could have on road trips.
I was pretty young when MK became debuted, and I distinctly remember being scared by the game xD
It is wild to think that this game would spawn several kids' toy lines and a Saturday morning cartoon.
Believe it or not tho, the thing that finally got me to give the franchise a shot was the first movie from New Line Cinema, which I still really like to this day
Love the music on the Genesis version.
Playing MK for hours a day on Game Gear got me into martial arts. I would actually just mimick the movements until I found a school to train in.
By far the best video comparing these legendary games. We’ll done. What drives me crazy about these games is that you can’t have great gameplay without great graphics and vise versa.
Mk 1 was my game back in the day! Those mini games mid fight was so cool!
Most people said the Genesis version is better, because of blood - but then, they always played the SNES version... At least my friends did it. I owned the Genesis version first, then I bought the SNES version and I never had problems playing it. The missing blood also never bothered me and once you get used to it, the input lag isn't worse at all. Both are good ports imo. Great times with nice memories back then!
Sega genesis version the characters has more fatalities then Snes
@@damin9913 you cannot classify the censored versions as fatalities. Both games have 7 characters, each one has one fatality.
@greensun1334 Yes I can and they do have more then one
@@damin9913 okay. Count a simple uppercut as fatality!
@greensun1334 sub-zero can knock your head off too same with scorpion
I never noticed the fighters on Genesis don't stand in the centre of the floor. Now I can't unsee it.
The snes version would’ve been the best version if it wasn’t censored. From MK2 onwards SNES all the way.
Nah gameplay is horrible on snes mortal Kombat bad input delay ruins game. Mk1 genesis, Mk2 snes, mk3 tie, ultimate mk genesis. That’s the best versions
@@Nobunaga1983 agree.
I would even go to say Genesis is more responsive than the arcade.
Snes is playable but it feels heavy and clunky. But it's alright when you get use to it.
Genesis feels light and ultra responsive.
Arcade is in between.
Gameplay is everything.
Even the creator Ed Boon was quoted saying the Genesis was the best playing home version
Edit: he posted it on Twitter saying genesis plays better than snes.
UMK3 is better on Genesis. MK3 is really close.
MK2 SNES due to the sheer amount of content cut from the Genesis. I still like the music more and think it plays better though.
Shawn Macdonald nah I’ve won mortal Kombat tournaments in cities. I know good mortal Kombat gameplay and genesis has it better
The Snes version said Tournament Edition on the box.
I do wonder which game was used in more tournaments..
I actually do think Snes feels alot like the Arcade, just slightly less responsive but still has it's weight. While Genesis is like a lighter feeling version, super precise and on point, but lighter and quicker as a result.
A punch in the Arcade/Snes has more weight to it, if that makes sense.
All that being said I'm use to the Genesis version, that's the one I'm best at. So probably my fav but I like switching it up and appreciate them all.
One of my favorite memories was my dad taking me to the mall after the Dentists and they had JUST gotten MK2 out on the floor and I got to play it while no one else was there... the only time for months that machine wouldn't be surrounded by a fairly large crowd.
Excellent Comparison. Flawless Episode.
Everyone forgot how fucking badass MKII was on the 32X of all things...
I still have this on my Genesis. I never got to play the SNES version.
My friends and I would play tons of MK tournaments at each other's houses. We played MK on both the Genesis and SNES all depending on whose house we were at. We all pretty much agreed that MK1 was better on the Genesis for gameplay and MK1 on the SNES looked better. When MK2 came out, we all agreed the SNES version was the better version for gameplay & graphics but none of us were bothered with the Genesis version either because that version was good too. In the end it didn't really matter because we all loved MK.
Just imagine a perfect hybrid of the two. SNES graphics and sound, genesis speed and gore.
The genesis tracks were all in the arcade... just rearranged and remixed. For example, the palace gates theme was the "continue" countdown theme in the arcade. Otherwise, this video shows perfectly what it was like back then.
Dude, thank you so much! I haven’t watched the end of the video yet to see which one is your pick, but I’m good with it either way knowing that you fully acknowledge the supremacy of the SNES version, it’s only drawback being the blood missing. Most videos discussing the 2 versions seem to overlook or not notice the brilliance of the SNES port and just judge things based on blood. 🙄
Man, the glory days of arcades cabinets in damn near every grocery and convenience store in Civilization, putting your quarter at base of the screen to play winner... Rest In Power FOREVER!
I like those episodes where you make side by side comparison between the Super nintendo and Sega Genesis versions of games.
I always thought that graphically, both versions are somewhat equal, with one version having more details here and the other having more details there. But seeing them both dissected like this here, it's obvious that the SNES version is indeed a bit more advanced in that department. I like however how in the Genesis version, the rows of watching monks in the background have a parallax effect just like in the arcade, and maybe it's just me, but it seems that the characters in the SNES version have a slightly more prominent outline around them than their Genesis counterparts, but overall, the SNES version clearly boasts a few more graphical details, like the scrolling clouds in that other stage where the Genesis version has nothing but a boring crystal clear blue sky. Which is odd, as the Genesis usually throws around parallax effects like it’s nothing, but well, clearly not in this game. Interesting!
I was surprised that the Genesis mini didn't have a Mortal Kombat game, Mortal Kombat 1 would've been nice in the Genesis mini along with Street Fighter
Bro the trade off was blood and fatalities..I like them both at the time
Could you cover differences in SNES and Genesis MK2 and same vs type video for MK3? I played SNES version of MK2 and Genesis version of MK back in the day and have fond memories of playing those.
Food Lion was the real MVP back in the day for arcades the first time i played Final fight was at a Food Lion
YPSILANTI/ ANN ARBOR BOWL, this was the first place I played Street Fighter, MK,MK2,MK3, Golden Axe, Raiden 1+2.
The SNES version has control issues... The Sega CD version is probably the more definitive version over the normal Genesis version (which is the version I owned as a teenager). I'm actually finding myself more likely to play the Sega CD version on my Genesis mini instead of the Genesis version.
MS DOS CD version is the definitive port.
I still play the Genesis versions - mostly because you can adjust the difficulty. Those Midway arcade games were quarter eating monsters.
I chuckled like you did at the end with your closing phrase
I was exposed to Mortal Kombat when I was a kid at a family friend's house and they could afford MK on SNES (I grew up poor and my family had a preowned Sega Master System until the PS1 came out) - even though the SNES version lacked gore, at the time I didn't know this but I was so blown away by such realistic-looking Ninjas, Gymnasts and a Magical Rice Farmer - since that moment I've always had a nostalgic soft spot for MK and this video makes me smile! Great work SLX!
Was the magical rice farmer relatable to you?
I first had it on the Snes and used the game genie code to make the sweat red. Eventually i traded my neighbor my Snes for his Genesis just so i could play this game uncensored. My mom was mad because she had already bought me a Genesis that i sold before i got the Snes for Christmas. lol. I just had to have the best console version. I was hooked on MK so bad back then.
I agree with all your points here, the sega cd version's character animations look great. The only drawback of having a sega version instead of snes would be if you only had the original 3 button controller to play with.
It also shows how lazy the Genesis Port was. There's no reason why those extra frames of Animation couldn't have been included along with a handful of voices that would have increased the experience greatly
The SNES version looked pretty good, but was missing the blood and had most of the fatalities censored. Genesis, on the other hand, looked and sounded like complete ass in comparison, but at least it had the blood and fatalities intact. No matter which version you chose, it was severely compromised.
I remember there was an ad for a Mortal Kombat 1 port plan for the Sega Saturn back when MK were still all the rage in the mid 90s. It was going to be bundle with MKII I believe and the 2-in-1 bundle were plan to be release for the Sega Saturn, PC (MS-DOS CD), and Game Boy. For some reason the PC and Game Boy versions were released but the Sega Saturn version never did. Had the Saturn version also got release it would had been the closest version of MK1 to the arcade game that we got at the time.
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Maybe, but look how the Saturn MKII port turned out : missing speech and loading times in-game, even while performing special moves, which break the gameplay ! A rushed and unoptimized port, while it could have easily been arcade perfect.
@@Shyning77 Yeah but look how Ultimate MK3 turn out, it was spectacular and had less load times. Sure it wouldn't be the best version but it'll be the closest one as it doesn't share hardware limitation with the Genesis. I mean c'mon with only 7 characters, 3 bosses, 7 levels, 7 fatalities, 20 moves and one mode of play how could they screw up the game?
@@VOAN A lazy and rushed port, that's why. They could and should have done better than that if they put some effort in it.
What's up buddy you just made me play my SEGA CD version of MORTAL KOMBAT
To b e fair, Sega had their own Videogame Rating Council in 1992-1993. Sega did allow Mortal Kombat to have blood, because they could put an MA-13 rating on the box. Nintendo was unwilling to use Sega's Videogame Rating Council cirtificate system, which was something that Sega was trying get the whole industry to adopt. Nintendo treated Mortal Kombat 1 like any other game that passed through their censorship guidelines.
After the 1993 violent video game hearings, the ERSB came into place and Nintendo did move to that ratings system and phased out their old censorship guidelines. Though Mortal Kombat 2 did not have an ERSB rating on it. Nintendo let Acclaim use their own warning lable because the ERSB was not ready.
The sounds of Mortal Kombat meant more to me than the gore. What attracted me was the feeling of playing a over the top kung-fu movie. Blood was rarely the reason we watched them, it was all about the rawness of the fighting. So yeah, I preferred the Super Nintendo version as a kid.
Alibabahey! Kalikamaha! We screamed that Raiden gibberish all day long!
Finally someone that understands me... Those are exactly my points about the Sega CD MK.
The SNES is responsive to the taps. You just don't see the character move onscreen. You can still tap out moves just fine.
We had a Food Lion in Maryland. Remember when 7-11’s had arcade cabinets?
Yup. 7-11 was the first place I saw Rad Mobile in all its glory.
Can't have blood on the snes but u can freeze ur opponent and break him into pieces, burn them alive, turn them into ashes and throw them down into a bed of spikes but God forbid to add the blood!
I always wondered how gamers originally found out how to do fatalities in the arcade. I found out by word of mouth. The game magazines eventually showed the directions, but how did players know when it first came out?
No mention of the numerous bugs in the Snes version, The terrible hit detection or the fact that it doesn't really play like the arcade version. I think the sprites aren't that far off from the Snes version, it's the animation that's lacking, which shows to be the case when you play the Mega CD version. The Snes character sprites have their own unique problems themselves, but I think they are all perfectly fine visually, it's what you'd expect from those 16 bit system, the Mega Drive is 2 years older than the SNES after all.
The best versions of Mortal Kombat 1 are the Sega CD and the MS-DOS versions.
Personally I will agree the sound is much better on the SNES version. I was always so jelly of the Genesis version growing up tho, bc of the fatalities. Love your videos !
There are two version of the Sega CD. The retail release did not work with the first model of Sega CD and you had to mail your disc in I and they would send you another copy that would work with the first Sega CD model.
Good stuff.. Your right dude, it was a big let down getting MK for snes as a kid just to find out there was no blood. My friend had the Genny version an I was jealous lol.
at least sub zero's and raiden's fatalities in the snes version are thematicly appropriate, the guys who had to come up with the sensered fatalities on that port clearly did their researching on the lore.
In fact, Midway did their own version of the censored Sub-Zero fatality in MK II, just more violent.
Love the content be subbed since 1500 or so I see 100000 in the near future and well deserved 👏🏼
Its pretty sad nobody talks about this
I definitely remember going to Disneyland on a field trip in middle school and there being the censored versions of the MK games. Was kinda funny playing a bloodless version of MKII where you can only do Babalities and Friendships
I thought Abacabb was the blood code for the Genesis...
This was actually a really good video man.
Nice channel. I've gone ahead and subbed to see what you end up doing next. Keep up the good work!
Im gonna have to check out that original Genesis MK music. I wasnt aware.
THE SEGA GENESIS VERSION IS THE BEST MAN ! END OF STORY
Funny how Johnny Cages Green Flame” projectile is white instead of GREEN in the Sega versions, oh.. and his Shadow Kick only has one shadow, which also isn’t green like it’s supposed to be. All those overlooked minor details add up and affect its authenticity.
It's called console limitations, not a foreign concept.
@@ajsingh4545 So console limitations prevented Johnny Cages projectile sprites from being the correct color? The Genesis was more than capable of using shades of green.
@@TheWaynelds well yeah, the genesis can only show 61 colors on screen vs the 100s in the arcade version. Also there is a very apparent sprite limit per scanline so having the multiple shadows will most definitely cause flicker and sprite break up if you know anything about the 16 bit and 8 bit home console. hardware
Wife: come.to bed its late.
Me; getting my head phones
Right on man! I like the Sega cd version too. D,U,L,L,A,R,D works with the Sega cd version also like the Genesis version.
Great episode. Thrilled to see a part 2 and 3. Thank you!
Lol, I remember Food Lion Stores, they got shut down for distributing and selling E.Coli tainted beef back in the mid 90s, true story
@SegaLordX thank you so much! I totally thought I was bad at the game when I played the snes version but I knew the inputs were off when looking at the genesis version. Watched your video and it proved my point
Probe must have had some serious lack of knowledge in compression as despite using the same size cartridge there’s barely any sound effects or animation compared to SNES which isn’t a hardware problem but lack of memory on the cart so Sculptured Software obviously where much better with compression.
Yup, can't say I could agree with you more ^^ To be honest, for me the input lag in the SNES version is more of a deal breaker than the actual gore. Yes, gore is very much part of MK's charm, but it doesn't affect the gameplay as much as that lag, which I also imediately noticed when I first played the SNES version. It looks and sounds good, but the Genesis port is indeed better ^^
They should have released or should release a special edition MK1 SNES version where they fixed some of the things that was subpar or that was not liked about the SNES version. Like have blood, have the original fatalities, even add a second fatality for each character, and can be the genesis fatality and snes fatality included, the movement and one second delay be fixed and have the game as fast as mk2 gameplay, have the roundhouse High kick send the player across the screen as mk2, it would be neat even MK 1 was rereleased as an expanded edition like improvement on all the things previously mentioned and include some new levels with original mk1 background styles to expand the game, even add movement or add neat visuals like have the stages daytime then when it’s replayed it’s a night time version of the levels, have the option to include Shao Kahn as the announcer instead of arcade Shang tsung, add and improve the character grunts and yells, include more special moves for each, add reptile to the roster, maybe even Jade, have a special cheat code to play as Shang Tsung or included in character select screen as well, heck even be bold and add Jax as a character as initially intended with his original yellow karate uniform, etc. so much shit can be done and make mk1 and hit again and sought after and reignite interest in the classic mk series
The Mega Drive port is very odd. It uses a 16mb cartridge just like the SNES version and yet there are cuts everywhere: missing animation frames, a simple color swap for Sub-Zero and Scorpion, missing voices, simplified backgrounds... What happened? How come they could fit all this on the 16Mbit SNES cartridge and couldn't on a similar 16Mbit cartridge on the Mega Drive? Probe's work on the presentation looks really bad when you compare to what Sculptured did for the SNES.
I'm pretty sure probe is the answer you're looking for. They had no business porting a high-profile game like this to the Genesis which seems to be with such little effort.
14:57 oh nooo it's not morality, it's lawsuits
Funny how people don’t mention that the Sega genesis version is censored as well, you need a blood code
Unfortunately I didn't own either version. I used to play the MS dos version on my 386 on extremely low settings while using the keyboard as my controller. By comparison both these versions of the game are brilliant compared to what I went through as an 11 year old.