2016 Mercedes Benz C450 AMG Sport TECH REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- MotoMan presents the TECH REVIEW of the Mercedes Benz C450 AMG Sport. Yes, he goes through the tech numbers of the engine, details of the suspension as it relates to driving dynamics as well as some special bits of this all new Mercedes Benz C Class,. He also poses an important question about the very concept of AMG Sport as it relates to Mercedes Benz and AMG . . .
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The Mercedes Benz C450 is a powerful, practical, and affordable car as an everyday drive for people you love to have a few extra horse power just in case. I am BMW guy but I love this Mercedes. I have always had BMW 3-series and enjoyed the sporty ride of a smaller sedan. I have been considering to buy another small sports sedan like BMW 340i, 435i coupe, or M4. After I saw the C450, I am very much leaning toward this car. Why? Here is why:
1- It has 362 hp and 384 lb ft.
2- It is ALL WHEEL DRIVE.
3- It has gorgeous interior design.
4- You can customize your driving modes (you cannot do that in BMW)
5- It is affordable ($62K very well equipped) not too $$$ like M4 ($80K+) in which you cannot get all wheel drive.
6- Ah! The exhaust sound! Beautiful!!!!
Neither BMW nor Audi do not have anything to compete with C450! I think it is brilliant.
+Safa Eslambolchi , c400awd, 450rwd $62k loaded sedan on local dealer lot. C63 base coupe with stand Berg stereo, etc $65k 488hp v8 tt. CLA45 isn't cheap, but features some cheap material and tiny motor that is over tweaked with 25psi stock.
Audi has the S4 and BMW has the M340xi what are you talking about? The C450 is an excellent car but it does have competition, also an underrated entry in this segment is the Q50 red sport.
Might be the greatest car reviewer personality in the industry :)!
+philip s (Dishano) He should have his own show on Velocity channel. I would watch it.
+philip s (Dishano) its ok but lets not get crazy
Yes I agree because he's so detail oriented. Everyone else talks about the same 10 things over and over
I just ordered mine, hopefully will get it this month, i read that the C450 badge will be replaced by the C43.
Yes, I very much believe there is room for this. I currently own a 2013 C300 and have been following the c450 for quite some time. It is the car I am aiming for in the next 2-3 years. They certainly need a place between the C300 and the C63 for a few good reasons.
1. Price - A new C is around 45-50k. A C63 can be 85-100k+. That is quite the price gap. The C450 is between 55-65k. People like myself cannot afford that C63 (yet hopefully) but we really want to get into a sporty AMG product. (Yes the prices are rough but they should be in the ballpark)
2. Usability - I live in Minnesota. If you are using a car for your daily driver through the year you want either front wheel or four wheel drive. I believe that any northern state dwellers (and all of Canada) will agree. If you have a C63 and it's winter time....now you got rear wheel, ice/snow, and a bucket load of torque which can equal a disaster. With the C450 all wheel you don't have to have a winter car (or be crazy).
3. AMG(ish) - Call me a loser if you wish but I love Mercedes. I have for quite some time and love the car I have. Being a car person I like to think I know about most of the various vehicles and stats in the brand. AMG holds a special place for Mercedes lovers. It's the best. It's the top. I am pretty sure there is a debate amongst AMG owners if the C450 is a "true" AMG. On one hand, it is not since it does not have the hand built engine. On the other it has AMG suspension, exhaust, AMG tuned engine, the side badge, and other things. Maybe it would fall to Mercedes themselves to determine if they include the sales of the C450 under their AMG numbers. Or just not try to make it a true AMG or not....make it it's own category (which it kind of is) AMG Sport.
As for all through the lineup, I actually don't think you can make an AMG Sport model for all classes. Maybe a C and E class, but once you get up into the M/G/S classes the prices are high enough where the people buying those cars don't really care about the extra 50k.
Thanks for the preview and can't wait for your full video!
+wsboxer1 Good insight . . . some of which the folks at Mercedes are hoping to be shared amongst many. Going to share your thoughts on AMG Sport cascading throughout the line the next time I see the Mercedes people.
+MotoManTV Wow, thanks for man. Keep up the great work with the channel!
+wsboxer1 I think you can get a C63 in low $70k? Its base price is $65k excluded destination charge and tax...
+wsboxer1 u got it right sir.
The way I see it is that the C300 is a nice performing car for driving to the grocery store, the office, and just doing everyday things. In the US, optioned out the way I'd want it, it would cost me $50,000. A C450 AMG Sport would be the fun version - something that would be a special treat, feel extra sport, and look great. I would need to spend $60,000 for the C 450 with options. For me the C 63 AMG and C 63 AMG S would come in at over $70,000, and I personally wouldn't be able to use the extra performance on a day to day basis, and wouldn't take the car to a track. So for me - the C 450 is a dream. You get the extra performance, sporty look, and great handling for a lot less money than an AMG car.
In my driving test comparison with the CLA 45 AMG, there was no question from vibration and sound that the CLA was a four-banger, and anyone over average size would find the sports seats very tight. For me the C450 is a better blend of sport and functional characteristics in a sedan, particularly after replacing the C450 grill with an AMG aftermarket, de-badging the C450 and adding larger AMG and Bi-Turbo badges, and replacing the springs to lower the ride height. If you think you need more hp & torque, the ECU flashing is good for about 40 of each.
you can get the irridium back diffuser in black if you want to(also the front splitter, exhaust tubes and rails on the roof). It's included in the nightlife-package on the C450 amg
Hey Motoman, funny you should ask that. We just bought a 2015 C400 not long ago knowing full well that the C450 is coming. After some research I thought the right step up from a C300 (that's for me, at least) is the C400, not the C450. The C400 offers almost 50% more power and it retains the luxurious, relaxing and whisper quiet character of the C300. In contrary, I think overall the C450 is trying hard to be a sports sedan - not everyone in this market will appreciate a red seatbelt, carbon fiber instrument cluster inlay and a quad exhaust tip (with more volume?). I'm sure the increase in power/torque and a more sporty F/R torque split will help, but I'm not sure if it is the right character for a medium between the C300 and C63. The C400 is (or used to be). I'm happy that we bought the car we wanted. But I hope the C450 is going to be as successful as the other C-Class variants. Looking forward to your full review of the C450! - Ben
UK here. About to buy a C Class. It seems that mercedes are improving tech and quality on the compact exec sedan and derivatives. The new Coupé in the EU looks even more like a mini S Class than the sedan does with the rear lights being extended. Airmatic suspension is an option too and so are all the latest driver assists.
I would assume that they will give the same treatment to the E Class.
In the UK, for many years, the only sedan in the top 10 selling cars was the BMW 3 series. In 2015 it is the C Class. Mercedes have that all round appeal, solid performance, great tech and outstanding design.
And yeah, these C Class cars in all their variants look great in red. Mine you, the new Coupé is also availabelm in Brillant Blue and that looks nice on the grades with a lot of chrome.
The world has been waiting for a 350+ hp luxury car in this segment.. Im in Canada been praying for this forever
Seen a couple of these throughout my area and they look wonderful. Much better than a 5 series.
+richzilla08 This is direct competitor to a 3 series. E class is the 5 series competitor and it destroys it
+Ilija Petrovic E still isn't refreshed yet, new C has SLS GT bits and parts all over inside and out. Real nice look, May have to pass on M2/ M3/M4/M6/M5 435i S5 S4 S6 S3 XE XFR etc.
used first yr S7awd with black wood trim or pinstripe dash seems like a good by discount from new sticker and looks great next to newer BMW and Benz.
FYI, BMWs equipped with the ZF 8 speed automatics have a "Coasting" feature built into their "Eco Pro" mode. It's not just limited to MB and Porsche as stated in this video.
*Now i've heard it in real life it looks awesome! Looks perfect in the all black livery!*
there is definitely room for the Goldilocks concept for these cars.
I'm live in Las Vegas, and am originally from south Orange County. I drive a lowered slightly modified 2006 G35 coupe and a 535xi with coilovers and a Cobb tune.
Mercedes needs this because unlike the BMW or Audi , it is extremely hard to modify. Atleast from box to car modifications, I've seen exhaust and suspension upgrades but that's about it.
agree with you 100% I like to thing that these middle of the road models will start becoming more common because it appeals to some normal car drivers, and maybe that will allow them to start getting into the expanded market of sports cars. I say more power to em
Nice review MotoMan. Haven't seen a video from you for quite some time. Please keep them coming. Still think your channel is one of the most underrated.
+targa florio Didn't go anywhere . . . we were on a two week hiatus.
As for question about the fit....I'm not sure that the AMG Sport concept translates to the other classes, but it's a great fit in the C Class line-up. I was close to buying a BMW 335i/435i, but I wanted something with a nicer interior. The performance of the C450 does not leave me wanting and the interior is much nicer than their BMW counterpart's (that is, as long as I can still get the cooled and ventilated seats offered on the C300/C400!!). Very nice job with the video review, by the way.
I love your videos!! keep it up MotoMan :)
Diffuser actually can be black, once you select the Night Package.
I think it's a great idea to have a middle ground C-Class - that way you ca have a comfy ride to work, or an aggressive drive through the back roads on your way home. The C-Class is such a big car for Mercedes (at least in Canada), and having this middle ground option would be a lot more attractive to the average owner; not everyone wants, or is able to handle 577hp of crazy. Personally, if I had the money, I'd buy the C450.
Base model here in the uk for petrol is the C200 (184bhp turbocharged) which is what I currently have as a company car in AMG Line. We mainly choose diesel here and there are C200 and C220 models. I would definitely consider the C450 next depending on the car tax, think it's s great addition to the range as the C63 is around £70k and this new model is supposed to be around £40k. Sounds great as well plus addition of 4wd would be a bonus with the crap UK weather. Probably got as much power as you actually need for everyday driving. The C200 is OK performance wise (0-60 about 7.4 for auto) but the 4 cylinder engine doesn't sound great at all when using the Rev range.
You are the Harvey Specter of car reviewers :D Just love your videos.
Is the C300 a base model in the US ? We in Europe have a C180, C200, C220, and so on.
Here in Brasil we start at the 180 too, and diesels are illegal
Daniel Maia Why are diesels illiegal ?
A stupid law prohibits diesel cars for personal uses, I think it's from a time when the country was short of diesel so they made the law to keep the trucks running. To get a diesel you have to buy a SUV and an imported one because no one is producing them here yet. Few months ago the project that takes the stupid law down went to senate but I doubt it will pass
Daniel Maia That's stupid!
+Fred Schriks I assume it's because of the highly successful ethanol fuel program they have in Brazil. Because sugar cane (as opposed to corn, which we use for E85 in the US) is so high in energy, it's a really useful way to make power. The great majority of cars in Brazil are flex-fuel and can run on ethanol.
SEAT COOLING and VENTILATION? Can you, or any of your MB sources, comment on the cooling and ventilation of the leather seats offered on the C450. The C300 and C400 premium package came with perforated ventilated and cooled seats. The brochures and MBUSA configurator for the C450 show perforated (ventilated) leather, but the U.S. cars being shipped at the moment do not have the perforated leather with cooling/ventilation. Is this a temporary supply issue. or has MB eliminated this feature? And, if the latter, why would MB downgrade the seating on the C450?
The 450 is already discontinued. The 2017 model is called AMG C43, same engine, new 9 speed trans, different packages, many options like the gloss dash will be deprecated.
It's an 8-speed no?
Jason Deol 9 speed. C43 now. No more c450. The packages will be different as well.
19 inch wheels.... no 20s available on the C classes..
+Zack Philbrook You are correct. Standard at 18", these are the optional 19"
It will shift for you when you're in manual mode and hit the limiter and don't let off.
I believe if prices are substantially different between per say different types of C-classes or any other model. Than yes; otherwise if prices are not substantially different than no. I drive a 2013 BMW active hybrid 3!! Thanks for the great presentations motorman!!!
Yes, to your question about line-up.
I drive a C250CDI Estate, Personally I don't want a A class it's great but too small (my wife would though), and I don't want a E class it's great too, but too big/heavy. C-class is the perfect match for my/our needs, I want a petrol next time and I want a V6, so it's a C300 and up I would be looking for. I would noop the C63 because it would be way too expensive to buy and insure, furthermore it uncomfortable (and crazy) on a daily basis driving. So what's left for me, well C400 and C450AMG if I want a car with a high fun factor but also daily comfort as I see it :)
Living in Europe/Denmark we have all kinds of weather conditions here 4Motion is great.
C450AMG would be a very good package with a great price / fun / value rate.
Yes it fits because I want one. If I want one then I'm sure others do too. Wish I had the money and was in the market for a car though haha.
This car is so beautiful. It cause me to lust about it. WOW!!!!! I love it
I would buy this.....in C450 wagon form, that is one sexy beast.
Please get more cars on the mean Gene lift. That'd be nice for the tech videos like these.
+headcas620 LOVE Mean Gene . . . Struggle is location. After moving from the ADM to The Petersen, we lost our lift. Hope to come up with a solution for this . . .
I'm in the Canada and there definately is room for the c450 amg especially in less affluent markets that can't affrod the c63 but want alittle more performance than the c400 offers.
C400 can go 0-60 in almost 5 seconds. I don't think you need something that heavy to go that fast on the road. It's already powerful enough to kill a pedestrian in 3 seconds.
Yes, it's about time for bump up, especially for those C-class enthusiasts. it should set a nice gap for buyers looking for a lightweight vehicle with just enough torque to make you feel more confident passing other motorists ; )..
I wouldn't mind spending a few more k's for a sportier car. it's nice to have "flagship" type power in an "entry level" like car.
There is room between 340i and m3 at least in Finland. M3 starts at around 120k€, 340ix with decent kit is about 85k€ while the c450 is about 95k€. I haven't tried out the 340i yet but I'm expecting it's no match for the c450. However, I don't see any future for these 6 cylinder engines anymore because the taxes are really outrages not so with the hybrids like c350e. So maybe this is the last chance to go for 6s.
Keep up the good work!
I am going to pick up my new C450 T in 10 days ;)
I see you picked it up , how do you like it
I think it is worth it ,because if can't afford a C63 you can choose on the GLA 45 and the C 450 AMG and the C 450 AMG has more space not by much but it will do.
I live in South Africa and when it comes out for people to buy I will buy it because you stand out then a GLA 45
Just bought it 🔥
My BMW 430d has a coast function when it is in ECO-PRO mode.
1:45 ghost walkin in the woods
+snois2 they were also filming a Jack's Links commercial
I live in New Zealand and drive a c180 mercedes.and the c450 mite fit.
This car is great because if you want a C63 but need AWD for winter.
But I digress.
I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota and this is not a car that would interest me. With that said, I can see why it exists. I drive a V8 Hyundai Genesis. 388hp/333lbs RWD. With snow tires, it's a fine winter car. I've rented several well equipped cars in this segment.
BMW 335i, Cadillac ATS 3.6 AWD and 3.6 RWD, 2015 Mercedes C300. In Arizona on some of the unpaved (and terrifying) mountain roads, the ATS had more than enough power. In South Dakota, where the mountain roads are more smooth and curving, my Genesis is a blast to drive, as there isn't as much need for cornering ability and the V8 provides great fun. But... in Florida, on flat, straight freeways with 90mph traffic the 335 and the C300 were adequate, but not exciting. I'm not silly enough to think I can use the ability an M3 or a C63 can offer, so this seems like it is a perfect in-between.
Would I want this car on unpaved mountain roads in the desert? Probably not. But I'd love to drive this in Colorado, or South Dakota, or California...or on the damn flat, straight freeways in Minneapolis or Florida.
Rev the RPMs at dealer, no whoosh, no sound. Maybe pipes were closed. $62k mostly loaded up. $82k buys loaded c63s coupe 517hp.
I also like the classic grill 😁
That's a nice car!
is there going to be a GLC 450 AMG Sport on the market?
Btw, how do you compare the audi S4 with this C450 AMG?
Thank you!
+Liu P Audi has not released the new S4 yet. so it is hard to compare only base on number that been given by Audi. for interrior and technology, i think Audi is better than MERC. who care? as long as you love either one is good.
+Liu P Good question. Going to be driving the GLC 300 in two weeks. Will ask then.
Wait...whhat? the torque is flat from 5500 to 6k?
looks awesome
AMG sport may apply to E class but definitely not an S class. I drive a GLK in Canada
MB offers 36 coupes, sedans & verts (excluding crossovers & SUVs) in various configurations. IMO, too many and to confusing. BMW offers about 20 variations of coupes, sedans and verts. Choice isn't necessarily a good thing.
How much is the price?
C450 AMG vs. wait for C43 Coupe vs. Wait for new Audi S4, vs. BMW 340i vs. BMW 435i Coupe
How about the facelift CLA45 for 2017
If I don't have the money to spend on a M3 or C63 I think I'd take the Jag XEs and feel more special in it than in a high trimmed C Class
how much does XE S cost? It's less powerful though
+Nik Brudar i guess it is around c450 price or just a little bit below so it is a lose for @daniel maia. ahahah jking tho
+Daniel Maia I am not sure man... You would be hard pressed to find a better interior for an entry level luxury sports sedan besides possibly the new A4
nice review, but i liked your shirt better.
cla 250 full or c450 amg?
A to the M to the G...
nice review but why don't you compare this with Lexus ? I think Lexus is f sport taking this class even from BMW . I used to own BMW n now I just love my Lexus .
MotoMan, do a GTR Nismo review please!
+rs san Been there, done that . . . Watch HERE: ruclips.net/video/ItjCpBSDYbQ/видео.html
MotoManTV Thanks motoman!
Cars like this, keeps those Chinese AMG emblem sellers in business, on ebay. If it doesn't have an autographed AMG engine plaque, it's not an AMG.
The back ends still looks ugly.
+Formulastreet Well, it'll still make you look pretty.
+Formulastreet piss off Elchapo!
+Formulastreet I don't mind the look of the rear, but wonder if it might look better if the diffuser was painted the body color rather than silver (for non-silver cars). And agree with MotoMan that silver on black is rather boring color scheme.
+Formulastreet I certainly like the back end of the W204 over the W205 although its not a deal breaker. The back of the new C class coupe looks like the back of the S Class which is amazing.
Most of the Mercedes back ends look awkward to me. It's a deal breaker for me and I would look to see a refresh on the back.
I can see room for growth in the 'AMG Sport' family, they already have A250, C450 & GLE450 AMGs & an E450 is kinda inevitable ... but i don't see Mercedes keeping the V6 once they unveil the new inline6 in NAIAS. As for an S450, I have my doubts ... can't show up in a 362hp V6 to take on a 445hp V8 750 MSport ... that's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
I'm with you on the color... the new C shines in Blue (there's a blue C250 near by) & i once saw this really cool Orange-ish one (could be red or copper... it was at night)
I'm glad Mercedes finally decided to take 'AMG Sport' seriously instead of just being Cosmetic upgrades & floor mats.
As for the mirror housings, I never liked black housings ... reminds me of those ecoboxes where you have to pay extra for body-colored ones ... ugh.
This C450 AMG or a BMW 435 ?
Or the new Jag XE SPORT ?
+Enrique Borunda The Jag is NOWHERE near this car in terms of levels of refinement. LOVE Ian but the materials inside any new Jaguar is just sub par.
Just test drive them you'll feel it in your loins then and there whether your a BWW guy or elevate And get yourself a C450 AMG sport like me not a c63 but I still feel like one of my car dreams have come true.
If you worrying about gas prices or mileage on a 60 grand or more car you shouldn't be driving the car.
yes as long as its cheap so we dont limited to only V4 #45... :p
yeah steve carell is back!
Not 20" wheels. Those are 21". Look it up.
Not 20 or 21". I looked it up and they're 19". There is nothing larger than a 19" for the 2016 C450.
BMW is making M-line since '90? Make better research, mr Motoman.
Cadillac CTS Vsport is similar in price and luxury but roomier and sportier than the Merc.
Also cadillac is uglier. and for that price i would go with the mercedes. Caddy is for grandpas! Just look at it. It saids it all! Mercedes is the best! Caddy needs to give up and let the germans take care of luxury cars!
As a car lover i BMW is absolute crap, always in the shop. Audi "had" electronic issues when they came out with that technology. But at the end of the day its who perfected it.
Frustrated again,. Whyyyyyyyy AWD only? It's fine as an option, but infuriating being the exclusive choice. I have no need for AWD, does not snow here. And I would glad trade away the extra weight, ruined handling dynamics, and decreased reliability.
You talked to much and you didn’t even show us form the inside .
mine
Yeah I'm not a fan of this crap AMG Sport, M325
Hahahahaha old fashion!!
Hated this review
I live in New Zealand and drive a c180 mercedes.and the c450 mite fit.