Liszt - Valses oubliées, S215 (Filipec)

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  • Опубликовано: 26 янв 2025

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  • @SCRIABINIST
    @SCRIABINIST 2 года назад +19

    The harmonies are incredible as with all Liszt

  • @Felix_Li_En
    @Felix_Li_En 5 лет назад +146

    Liszt's impressionistic period ! That must influenced Debussy and Ravel quite much ! 😄

    • @aramkhachaturian8043
      @aramkhachaturian8043 4 года назад +6

      It is like we are listening to a totally new composer!

    • @bag3lmonst3r72
      @bag3lmonst3r72 3 года назад +3

      I don't know man, the first waltz sounds pretty Lisztian-Romantic to me

    • @TheModicaLiszt
      @TheModicaLiszt 3 года назад +12

      @@bag3lmonst3r72 You are wrong. Deal with it.

    • @bag3lmonst3r72
      @bag3lmonst3r72 3 года назад +18

      @@TheModicaLiszt Go shove your condescending attitude where the sun doesn't shine, pal. I'm entitled to my opinion. Deal with it. 😎

    • @TheModicaLiszt
      @TheModicaLiszt 3 года назад +15

      @@bag3lmonst3r72 ruclips.net/video/d_CGVUcvYQs/видео.html This is “Lisztian-Romantic”. These pieces are an irony of the form, with impressionist/modern colourings of harmony. Your comment is like saying, ‘This forward-thinking Beethoven Pathetique Sonata sounds soooo Beethoven-classical’, when in fact it is edging strongly into Romanticism. You’re entitled to have this opinion, but the facts are different.

  • @auroresad21
    @auroresad21 5 лет назад +21

    Liszt toujours surprenant, ces valses sont un plaisir à écouter jouées par l' excellent Goran Filipec

  • @szilike_10
    @szilike_10 Год назад +3

    11:18 Such a magical moment, like a fairy tail. Out of nowhere some beauty after all the tension. So gorgeous.

  • @DanielCharry1025
    @DanielCharry1025 5 лет назад +70

    Oh my gosh the fourth one (13:24) is truly divine. This is the first time i've heard it, and i am surprised that it looks easy on the score.

    • @aardigrade
      @aardigrade 4 года назад +9

      It reminds me very heavily of his 3rd Mephisto Waltz

  • @guadalajara4848
    @guadalajara4848 3 года назад +8

    Maintenant que je le connais un peu plus, je me rends compte que Liszt est à la racine de presque tous les courants de la musique moderne : inspirateur des inventions orchestrales et harmoniques de Wagner et de toute la tradition romantique qui en procède, inventeur du poème symphonique, de la forme cyclique, précurseur de l'impressionnisme au piano, des recherches modales de Bartok et de l'aventure atonale. C'est énorme pour un seul homme !

  • @user-fu7zf4ck9z
    @user-fu7zf4ck9z 2 года назад +6

    Honestly, these are the greatest waltzes ever written

  • @Mazeppa6
    @Mazeppa6 4 года назад +8

    This side of Liszt never fails to comfort me

  • @TheModicaLiszt
    @TheModicaLiszt 4 года назад +24

    Keep coming back to this video Andrei - as soon as Liszt finished the first Valzer, I’m sure he knew he was onto something amazing and magical, almost numinous!

  • @MikeyOnKeys
    @MikeyOnKeys 5 лет назад +30

    wow, Liszt doesn’t just write nearly impossible music! I like this style. I like Liszt overall but this is awesome.

  • @ytyt3922
    @ytyt3922 5 лет назад +109

    The first one is so popular because it’s one of the few Liszt pieces that’s actually playable for an average amateur pianist

    • @yes-fq6jd
      @yes-fq6jd 4 года назад +18

      It is also a sweet, short piece that does not challenge the listener as much as Liszt's other works.

    • @mogret7451
      @mogret7451 2 года назад +7

      @@fredericchopin7538 Henle give it a difficulty rating of 7 out of 9. Liszt have many simpler pieces, check out the book Twenty-one Short Piano Pieces
      by ABRSM Signature.

    • @SCRIABINIST
      @SCRIABINIST 2 года назад +28

      It's definitely not an amateur piece. Obviously it isn't crazy advanced, but it's advanced enough.

    • @AlkanLove
      @AlkanLove Год назад +2

      普通にコンクールに採用しても良いレベルです

  • @parkmusic98
    @parkmusic98 4 года назад +16

    15:43 So warm 7th/9th chords...

    • @MatheusKulik
      @MatheusKulik 2 месяца назад

      I was listening to this section sitting on grass in a sunny day thinking how it remembers me of the character of this Villa Lobos piece ruclips.net/video/WoRklWA_L1U/видео.html
      quite warm indeed

  • @yes-fq6jd
    @yes-fq6jd 4 года назад +17

    Waltz no. 2 must be the most Impressionistic waltz out there. Ahead of its time, too.

  • @gergelykiss
    @gergelykiss 3 года назад +14

    I think these are some of Liszt's finest miniatures. I think Stravinsky's opinion about the Grosse Fuge applies to this music as well, these waltzes too are "forever contemporary."
    The performance is lovely of course. However there are indications that Filipec overshot the tempo in a few places. For example in No.2 4:35 (and in later corresponding passages) you can't hear a distinction between the sixteenth and eight note motifs. In No.3 10:54 the repeated octaves in eighths become quarter notes. Maybe Filipec used a different edition where it is actually written as quarter notes, I don't know... but I have always heard those played with repeated eighth notes.

    • @none5020
      @none5020 3 года назад +2

      Glad to see I'm not the only one that noticed, on the octaves part I'm sure it was personal choice but for No. 2 I wonder if it was at all intentional.

  • @StephenGottPianist
    @StephenGottPianist 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for including Dr Howard's performance at the end. I think I might learn these walzes next they are seldom performed in public.

  •  4 года назад +5

    Quelle interprétation ! Il aurait été fier ou heureux. Merci.

  • @christofeles63
    @christofeles63 5 лет назад +11

    Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the dissemination of Liszt's prodigious musical output! Endlessly fascinating stuff. Your notes are most helpful as well.

  • @MasmorraAoE
    @MasmorraAoE 2 года назад +8

    At 1:50 I could swear I was listening to Scriabin!!

    • @eddieandmaxie
      @eddieandmaxie 7 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like his 4th sonata and it’s also in the same key too, so Scriabin most likely took inspiration from this!

  • @Sujkhgfrwqqnvf
    @Sujkhgfrwqqnvf 3 года назад +2

    2:09 the harmony starting at bar 184 is so captivating... Though after all, I think that it's nothing more than a damn dominant!

    • @Ricardo7250
      @Ricardo7250 3 года назад +2

      It's an E# chord with 7 and #11 (right hand plays the major third of E#) while the bass maintains the F# tonic pedal

  • @fritzilcelta
    @fritzilcelta 4 года назад +2

    Life and Death, the spirit, the Ghost, that "something else" lays beyond our dreams...

  • @GICM
    @GICM 2 года назад +1

    very charming!

  • @みな-w6x
    @みな-w6x 4 года назад +4

    I like No.2🥰

  • @CameronGuarino
    @CameronGuarino 4 года назад +7

    does 1:50 remind anyone else of scriabins 4th sonata?

  • @claudioparrella183
    @claudioparrella183 2 года назад +1

    Grande interpretazione

  • @sandeegrey5977
    @sandeegrey5977 7 месяцев назад

    The fourth one is so gorgeous

  • @marcalexandrefontenay9801
    @marcalexandrefontenay9801 3 года назад

    Ces valses ne sont pas que des pièces de salon d’ailleurs fort inaccessibles pour la plupart des pianistes mais de véritables pépite pianistique et préfigure le piano du XX s .

  • @jerry_moo
    @jerry_moo 4 года назад +8

    No. 2 has an unexpectedly very typical late 19th century (Belle Époque) salon-like feel to it. Charming, but it's a sound that I wouldn't expect from Liszt.

    • @DottoreSM
      @DottoreSM Год назад +2

      doesn't sound like it to me at all.

    • @jerry_moo
      @jerry_moo 5 месяцев назад

      @@DottoreSM​​⁠​​⁠Why so? To me the piece sounds more like the lines of what Reynaldo Hahn - or even what Moszkowski would've written. As a side note, I'd dare also say that the piece sounds borderline Fauréan, actually.
      Basically, it doesn't sound out of place from the period Liszt composed it. Something I find quite interesting.
      Compare the piece to his other outputs from the same period (or even periods before), or other composers who most often failed to adapt through evolving musical landscapes (e.g., Saint-Saëns, who for the most part stayed consistent even with changing times).

  • @cancrelat
    @cancrelat 10 месяцев назад +1

    1:50 precursor of scriabin

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 2 года назад

    Espressione di un prodigio naturale.

  • @yes-fq6jd
    @yes-fq6jd 4 года назад +2

    1:00
    Sounds so familiar... This must be it!

  • @charlottewhyte9804
    @charlottewhyte9804 8 месяцев назад +1

    no 1 in a minor is my number 1 is my favourite indeed

  • @kanjuro8926
    @kanjuro8926 2 года назад +5

    Scriabin didn't forget

    • @Latinosmassacre-
      @Latinosmassacre- 2 года назад

      what do you mean

    • @snorefest1621
      @snorefest1621 2 года назад +2

      @@Latinosmassacre- get it? Scriabin got inspired by this possible, which is an ironic departure from this piece's title

    • @Latinosmassacre-
      @Latinosmassacre- 2 года назад

      @@snorefest1621 Oh!

  • @VaggosWho
    @VaggosWho 3 года назад +1

    If you think that Petite Valse, is easy try it to play without listen first!

  • @preutbao833
    @preutbao833 3 года назад +3

    ok no.2 is pretty epic,... but nobody is gonna talk about the third one?

    • @TheModicaLiszt
      @TheModicaLiszt 3 года назад +5

      They are all pretty epic h

    • @dacoconutnut9503
      @dacoconutnut9503 3 года назад +3

      For me it reminded a bit of Mephisto Waltz No. 3 (and maybe, just maybe, Maurice Ravel might've stolen that chordal 'quaver+minim' idea in the middle for his set of Valses Nobles Et Sentimentales)

    • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
      @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Год назад

      Popular opinion but I like the first the most.

  • @АлександрЯрков-ш2з
    @АлександрЯрков-ш2з 4 года назад

    Bravo

  • @elionthekeys
    @elionthekeys 5 лет назад +3

    7:18

  • @Mushikuchi
    @Mushikuchi 5 лет назад +5

    Hi, I wonder if I could get the sheets for the last piece Petite Valse S695e? Also I’ve subcribed to your channel for a time now and I just wanna say thank you for having introduced me to so many magnificent pieces (that are little known by most people)

    • @AndreiAnghelLiszt
      @AndreiAnghelLiszt  5 лет назад +1

      Sure thing, drop me an email at the email address in my channel description.

    • @hugomezzasalma2649
      @hugomezzasalma2649 5 лет назад +1

      @@AndreiAnghelLiszt Hello, thank you for this discovery ! Can I get also the sheet for the last one please ?

  • @invinius
    @invinius 24 дня назад +1

    Yo crei que escuchaba una cumbia colombiana....que mal....escuche a Claudio Arrau li vava guiar porvel camino correcto....

  • @GreenTea4
    @GreenTea4 2 года назад

    14:03 that Is very satisfying

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Год назад

    15:47 the pedals haha

  • @wamexart
    @wamexart 2 месяца назад

    I would rename them presque oubliees

  • @kyleglennon5336
    @kyleglennon5336 2 года назад +1

    Scott Joplin opening

  • @frederikkok9284
    @frederikkok9284 2 года назад

    the unfinished fifth seems guite finished to me.

  • @charlottewhyte9804
    @charlottewhyte9804 8 месяцев назад

    no 5haunting never knew there was a 5

  • @hippere
    @hippere Год назад

    This piece is cantabile, the virtuosims give to trash some pieces

  • @Not_thinking_about_anything
    @Not_thinking_about_anything 4 года назад +3

    4:11

  • @aramkhachaturian8043
    @aramkhachaturian8043 2 года назад

    7:35

  • @xynthesya
    @xynthesya Год назад +1

    9:07