I don't know why but every time I hear this I imagine Cosima Wagner saying "Dad, do you have to make a transcription of my husband's overture? It's kinda embarrassing you know" and Franz wouldn't even be listening and be completely absorbed in writing.
11:06 and on is when it gets especially insane, and Cziffra adds more notes and virtuosity to an already very difficult score. Cziffra was one in a billion!
A wonderful performance of this very difficult score. Cziffra's poetic playing of the beginning of the Overture suggests that he would have given a superb account of Beethoven's fourth piano concerto.
I'm already a huge fan of Cziffra but I agree with those who wrote that this was his best ever record. It's stupendous, awe inspiring. This arrangement is a perfect fit for Cziffra's style
11:18 - 11:19 min. Since nobody comments on it, Cziffra changed the bass note in that bar. He plays a C natural instead of the B written on the score... With good criterio, in my opinion. Probably, the most Grandioso Pianist ever existed.
This piece is so difficult that none other than Marc-Andre Hamelin said that it's basically unplayable. Cziffra did an outstanding job here, superhuman in terms of both virtuosity and passion. Easily one of his greatest musical achievements (if not THE greatest).
I kind of doubt Hamelin said that because this is one of Liszt's easier transcriptions of an orchestral work. The techniques are all quite repetitive so unless you find octaves and thirds hard, this one of the more approachable transcriptions (especially if you play it at the correct tempo. performers seem to insist on taking this at 200% of Wagner's tempo for no reason)
@@dfkfgjfg Of course difficulties are different for different pianists, but I think this one is still one of Liszt's taxing transcriptions. Hamelin definitely played even more inane pieces, but if he did say that I wouldn't be too surprised as he seems to contradict himself at times (like how he said he would never touch Scarbo).
@@velvetred749 yeah, but that was in his later years. My point is just that pianists often say that type of stuff and it ends up not being true. Another case was Liszt himself that told Schumann his coda to the Massig in his C major Fantasie was unplayable and not suited for performances. Later he ended up playing it quite easily in front of an audience
The greatest recording I think we'll ever hear. Think this was the second time Cziffra recorded this. Or maybe this is the first recording. I prefer this one. The expression, interpretation, power, control are just unbelievable!
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I'm emotionally spent and mentally exhausted after listening to Liszt's magnificent transcription of Wagner's overture. Only Cziffra could pull this 'monster' of a piece off as masterly as he did.
Questo Signore ha tutti i requisiti che hanno solo i personaggi fenomenali non è solo grande Pianista,ma,molto di più.Riposa in pace GRANDE GYORGY CZIFFRA
also give some credit to liszt! he wrote this transcription, and probably performed it perfectly at his concerts. cziffra and liszt are actually very retared, they use the similar techniques because cziffra’s teacher was student of liszt :D
I’m tired of seeing comments on how difficult the piece is and if Liszt himself could have played this without stopping. Liszt wouldn’t be able to play his B Minor Sonata at an older age than what he was when composing this. I’m pretty sure Liszt would DOG on all of us. So stop the hate and spread the love within the music.
@SIU MAN LI sightreading and playing it is so different. as someone currently learning it, the technique doesn't seem so daunting upon a first glance, but it's rlly the stability and stamina u need for 16 minutes is what makes this difficult. I say this as someone who enjoys playing much denser music like Messiaen and Albeniz.
리하르트 바그너의 음악은 참으로 아름답고 심오하다 이런 엄청난 잠재력을 가진 바그너가 피아노곡이나 실내악을 남기지 않았다는 것이 못내 아쉽기만하다 그가 만일 피아노곡, 실내악 가곡등을 웬만큼만이라도 남겼다면 지금 우리 감상자들이 조금이나마 그의 음악의 내면을 들여다 봤을텐데 오페라에만 집중한 그의 음악은 일반 감상자들은 기나긴 그의 오페라를 쉽게 접한다는것이 사실상 어려운 일인것이다
I wish there was a compilation book of liszt transcriptions, I have the Beethoven symphony and handel sarabande transcriptions but can only find separate ones, not all in one book (or a series)
Dover Publications has a good series : French/Italian Opera Transcriptions; Wagner Transcriptions; Schumann, Bach, Chopin and others; plus three volumes of Schubert Songs. Pretty inexpensive, too.
Just the fact that even such a recording exists...not even Liszt himself could play better than this. In fact, I would put Cziffra's recording top in contrast to any and all out there.
Holy mother of god what just happened?? I was just about to fall asleep then i hit play on this... Oo.Oo Now im wide awake and idk how to react...i go play some piano, i guess
liszt had a super high IQ and well well read and could speak eloquently on many subjects. His works attest to this. As such we can see he had the most profound mind and no doubt his far seeing innovations not only to piano but to all of music, his sight reading ability, photographic memory, and accounts of his performances would suggest that he could play at least this good. Liszt could sight read chopin's etudes so well the composer was mad jealous. Could cziffra do that? probably not. It took trifonov 3 months to learn the double thirds etude. Usually the pianists sight reading skill is indicative of his overall ability.
You said right really right. So i love Liszt most in all the pianists. But i dont think Liszt is not the best piano technician. I heard Tausig was better than Liszt and Liszt him self also didnt deny about that. Liszt had superhuman sight as you said but there always is someone play Liszt better than Liszt. Who can play much more faster and delicately.. If Liszt is the Greatest musian Czffra can be the Greatest piano technician right?
@@user-se4ck8tv7w In liszt's case he practiced very long hours to perfect his technique and would play scales, thirds etc for 5 hours daily. It was almost undisputed that LIszt was the greatest pianist of his time and had the best technique. There are basically zero accounts of tausig being better technically though he was said to have been a great pianist. LIszt had the reputation of being the best for a reason because he was so don't even try to argue that tausig was better. The arguments that the modern piansts technique would be better than liszt's are more valid. Though for the reasons I stated and based on his sight reading ability I would say that liszt was still the best. If you said cziffra had a better or equal technique I would say perhaps but how do you measure good technique? If you listen to a recording and both pianists play with equal speed and accuracy but one practiced the piece 50 hours and the other practiced it 30 minutes the 30 minute guy still has better technique because he is a more versatile pianist. So overall I'd say liszt was better, given his overall artistic and sight reading ability. If there was a battle and each pianists had only 1 hr to prepare a program of music they had never played before liszt would win every time I guarantee it and cziffra would be #2.
Well.. Liszt dont need to practice to play Islamey. But maybe cannot play galop chromathique better than Czffra's playing in Japan. Liszt is best in playing without pratice. But i think liszt is not perfect in all ways. Maybe he cannot play faster in galop or cannot play dramatically much more than Lang Langs Don juan. I mean Liszt is just a Genius as you say. But if some pianists less than him practice whole days can play better than him in some pieces. Maybe Liszt also agree about that.
I’m really glad that Cziffra played this piece and that Liszt transcribed this overture. I have made it a point to never listen to Wagner, and I have decided that this is as close as I am willing to come to listening to his music. That being said, I think the transcription is marvelous and Cziffra’s playing is superb.
This is of course a 100% kitsch piece. Very expertly done for sure in the orchestral version. The piano adaptation just sounds ridiculous, like silent movie accompaniment avant la lettre.
Or maybe you've just let stereotypes about Hollywood music spoil your taste in Romantic music. Like saying, the Ride of the Valkyries became "kitsch" after Apocalypse Now.
You are a misanthrope, and a cynic, who puts all human endeavour into it's lowest common denominator, you are also unaware of your own ignorance preferring instead to comment on matters beyond your understanding. For the baseless and small minded comments that you have made, you should be forced never to hear another piece of music for the rest of your life, and then at least you might find some humility you pig.
very appropriate piece for beginners!
Very appropriate for beginning to lose your sanity practicing this 🤣🤣
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Ah yes. This piece should be included in every beginner book
I think that is a great business model to have new students burn the books out of frustration only to buy them again and repeat the process
Wagner, Liszt and Cziffra were out of this world.
I don't know why but every time I hear this I imagine Cosima Wagner saying "Dad, do you have to make a transcription of my husband's overture? It's kinda embarrassing you know" and Franz wouldn't even be listening and be completely absorbed in writing.
11:06 and on is when it gets especially insane, and Cziffra adds more notes and virtuosity to an already very difficult score. Cziffra was one in a billion!
a Trillion
11:22 The sound effect is amazing! apocalyptic and insane.
A wonderful performance of this very difficult score. Cziffra's poetic playing of the beginning of the Overture suggests that he would have given a superb account of Beethoven's fourth piano concerto.
Indeed, my friend.
I'm already a huge fan of Cziffra but I agree with those who wrote that this was his best ever record. It's stupendous, awe inspiring. This arrangement is a perfect fit for Cziffra's style
11:18 - 11:19 min. Since nobody comments on it, Cziffra changed the bass note in that bar. He plays a C natural instead of the B written on the score... With good criterio, in my opinion.
Probably, the most Grandioso Pianist ever existed.
The superhuman being busy. Legendary stuff.
10:11 wtf octave grace notes played perfect
@@stacia6678 both are in black keys so it is possible to play it like a 2 key glissando
That was unfathomably spectacular, a display of pianism like no other. That was an orchestra on the piano!
This piece is so difficult that none other than Marc-Andre Hamelin said that it's basically unplayable. Cziffra did an outstanding job here, superhuman in terms of both virtuosity and passion. Easily one of his greatest musical achievements (if not THE greatest).
Dang, where did he say that?
I kind of doubt Hamelin said that because this is one of Liszt's easier transcriptions of an orchestral work. The techniques are all quite repetitive so unless you find octaves and thirds hard, this one of the more approachable transcriptions (especially if you play it at the correct tempo. performers seem to insist on taking this at 200% of Wagner's tempo for no reason)
@@dfkfgjfg Of course difficulties are different for different pianists, but I think this one is still one of Liszt's taxing transcriptions. Hamelin definitely played even more inane pieces, but if he did say that I wouldn't be too surprised as he seems to contradict himself at times (like how he said he would never touch Scarbo).
Dude Liszt himself had to take breaks bcoz he Cudnt finish it the whole way through
@@velvetred749 yeah, but that was in his later years. My point is just that pianists often say that type of stuff and it ends up not being true. Another case was Liszt himself that told Schumann his coda to the Massig in his C major Fantasie was unplayable and not suited for performances. Later he ended up playing it quite easily in front of an audience
The greatest recording I think we'll ever hear. Think this was the second time Cziffra recorded this. Or maybe this is the first recording. I prefer this one.
The expression, interpretation, power, control are just unbelievable!
It might be a combo of both. 10:10
Bolet for me.
Totally agree, undoubtedly the best recording, breathtaking
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Чудовий угорський піаніст! Подяка за можливість слухати цього майстра фортепіанної гри.
Согласен с вами, дорогой друг
the King of the pianists
I'm emotionally spent and mentally exhausted after listening to Liszt's magnificent transcription of Wagner's overture. Only Cziffra could pull this 'monster' of a piece off as masterly as he did.
Questo Signore ha tutti i requisiti che hanno solo i personaggi fenomenali
non è solo grande Pianista,ma,molto di più.Riposa in pace GRANDE GYORGY CZIFFRA
❤️
also give some credit to liszt! he wrote this transcription, and probably performed it perfectly at his concerts. cziffra and liszt are actually very retared, they use the similar techniques because cziffra’s teacher was student of liszt :D
@@stacia6678 I misread that badly
Very virtuosic. Cziffra is the best Liszt pianist ever! 999th Like :)
Pity that Cziffra never played this brilliant work again after 1960s...🙁
This brilliant arrangement…
When I listen to the orchestral version, I feel sadness but also power. But when I listen to the solo, I feel utterly terrified
Absolutely amazing, breathtaking
10:10 did we just hear Cziffra bend time and reality?
at 10:20 also
His grace notes are perfect!
@@leaguememes5241 sounds like they re-recorded parts of it
...yes... he did
@@gameclips5734they definitely had cuts
Beautiful piece
Fantastic Cziffra!
Comment 191 said great for beginners. Sure, if your name is Vladimir Horowitz!
Fantastic performance!
That is proof that there are Gods among us. He played that piece for all it’s worth and it turned out to be a lot.
Incredible interpretation!
I’m tired of seeing comments on how difficult the piece is and if Liszt himself could have played this without stopping.
Liszt wouldn’t be able to play his B Minor Sonata at an older age than what he was when composing this. I’m pretty sure Liszt would DOG on all of us. So stop the hate and spread the love within the music.
One of the hardest Liszt piece
This piece is from Wagner
@@saiintruso1245 But it's transcription is Liszt's and it's so demanding piece
@SIU MAN LI no, you didn't
@SIU MAN LI sightreading and playing it is so different. as someone currently learning it, the technique doesn't seem so daunting upon a first glance, but it's rlly the stability and stamina u need for 16 minutes is what makes this difficult. I say this as someone who enjoys playing much denser music like Messiaen and Albeniz.
@TheTage Show However, Liszt's transcription transforms the original orchestral piece into a very technically demanding work for solo piano.
Неймовірний Дьордь Цифра! ЮВЕЛІР фортепіано, великий віртуоз. Подяка за відео з цим видатним майстром! Бравіссімо!!!
Y'a de quoi tomber en dépression tellement c'est purement éblouissant... !
CZIFFRA le pianiste le plus prodigieux de tous les temps !
11:13 That bass was like thunder.
Cziffra bass is always too good
I can not agree more.
11:23 he is destroying piano
eargasm
indeed
Это вообще лучшее что существует
리하르트 바그너의 음악은 참으로 아름답고 심오하다
이런 엄청난 잠재력을 가진 바그너가 피아노곡이나 실내악을
남기지 않았다는 것이 못내 아쉽기만하다
그가 만일 피아노곡, 실내악 가곡등을 웬만큼만이라도 남겼다면
지금 우리 감상자들이 조금이나마 그의 음악의 내면을 들여다 봤을텐데
오페라에만 집중한 그의 음악은 일반 감상자들은 기나긴 그의 오페라를 쉽게 접한다는것이
사실상 어려운 일인것이다
Thank you very much! ❤️❤️❤️
Unglaublich!
13:53
not a challenge.
11:22 more like. 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Cziffra had the best interlocking octaves in history imo
Inacreditavelmente este pianista sobrenatural existiu. Execução fantástica. Límpida. Lendária..
El piano no tenía secretos para el gran Tito Cziffra...sorprendente interpretación
Legendary recording
13:35
How can people dislike this.
La más auténtica que he escuchado.
Really underrated piece
11:23 Attack!
it’s not even in the sheet wtf. cziffra added extra notes.
Indeed
13:52 holy shit
liszt early days: *o c t a v e s*
@OLIVIER MESSIAN IS REAL 100% ok zoomer
Nice
Lmao
La mejor versión.
У Хорхе Болета, на мой взгляд, лучше, хоть и немного медленней
I wish there was a compilation book of liszt transcriptions, I have the Beethoven symphony and handel sarabande transcriptions but can only find separate ones, not all in one book (or a series)
Would be a pretty big book. Edition Peters and NLA have a series of many of his transcriptions
10000 page book
It'll have to be separated into many different volumes, because there are hundreds of them.
Dover Publications has a good series : French/Italian Opera Transcriptions; Wagner Transcriptions; Schumann, Bach, Chopin and others; plus three volumes of Schubert Songs. Pretty inexpensive, too.
Just the fact that even such a recording exists...not even Liszt himself could play better than this. In fact, I would put Cziffra's recording top in contrast to any and all out there.
Holy mother of god what just happened?? I was just about to fall asleep then i hit play on this... Oo.Oo
Now im wide awake and idk how to react...i go play some piano, i guess
Ez után már nem lehet zongorázni -after that you can no longer play the piano
@@klasszikuszene7434 What about now?
@OLIVIER MESSIAN IS REAL 100% always and forever.
@𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙 yes
It was Cziffra, and the others
Nightmare sight reading this but I got through it
رائع جدا كزيفرا سيبقى احسن عزف بيانو على مر العصور
i want to like this twice
9:53 - 11:57
11:23 💀
07:40 reminds me of Dvorak's Рiano concerto
No one can play last some minutes like him...Maybe Liszt himself also cannot play like this
Another can….C.K. 😉
liszt had a super high IQ and well well read and could speak eloquently on many subjects. His works attest to this. As such we can see he had the most profound mind and no doubt his far seeing innovations not only to piano but to all of music, his sight reading ability, photographic memory, and accounts of his performances would suggest that he could play at least this good. Liszt could sight read chopin's etudes so well the composer was mad jealous. Could cziffra do that? probably not. It took trifonov 3 months to learn the double thirds etude. Usually the pianists sight reading skill is indicative of his overall ability.
You said right really right. So i love Liszt most in all the pianists. But i dont think Liszt is not the best piano technician. I heard Tausig was better than Liszt and Liszt him self also didnt deny about that. Liszt had superhuman sight as you said but there always is someone play Liszt better than Liszt. Who can play much more faster and delicately.. If Liszt is the Greatest musian Czffra can be the Greatest piano technician right?
@@user-se4ck8tv7w In liszt's case he practiced very long hours to perfect his technique and would play scales, thirds etc for 5 hours daily. It was almost undisputed that LIszt was the greatest pianist of his time and had the best technique. There are basically zero accounts of tausig being better technically though he was said to have been a great pianist. LIszt had the reputation of being the best for a reason because he was so don't even try to argue that tausig was better. The arguments that the modern piansts technique would be better than liszt's are more valid. Though for the reasons I stated and based on his sight reading ability I would say that liszt was still the best. If you said cziffra had a better or equal technique I would say perhaps but how do you measure good technique? If you listen to a recording and both pianists play with equal speed and accuracy but one practiced the piece 50 hours and the other practiced it 30 minutes the 30 minute guy still has better technique because he is a more versatile pianist. So overall I'd say liszt was better, given his overall artistic and sight reading ability. If there was a battle and each pianists had only 1 hr to prepare a program of music they had never played before liszt would win every time I guarantee it and cziffra would be #2.
Well.. Liszt dont need to practice to play Islamey. But maybe cannot play galop chromathique better than Czffra's playing in Japan.
Liszt is best in playing without pratice. But i think liszt is not perfect in all ways. Maybe he cannot play faster in galop or cannot play dramatically much more than Lang Langs Don juan.
I mean Liszt is just a Genius as you say. But if some pianists less than him practice whole days can play better than him in some pieces. Maybe Liszt also agree about that.
it's all fun and games until cziffra plays listz
The first two notes sounded like Tristesse, so I thought I came to the wrong video 😂
Same here! Ive listened to too much Chopin...
Exactly😂😅
хор 0:01
раскаяние т 1:30
гп1 4:54
гп2 5:44
сп 6:02
пп 6:36
зов венеры 8:01
4:10 that B sounds strange lol
It’s got that swing!
7:52
how does he do it? create such a fantasy?
By using Wagner's score.
Great four hands transcription…ehm…👋👋👋👋
Unfortunately, the entrance of the brass instruments at 2:20 is a disaster on the piano.
11:22
Big guy
Wagner, how dare you improvise a monster and turn into a KILLER!
Wagner: Ha Ha
wat wagner didnt write this
@@stacia6678 It's a transcription of Wagner's overture.
@@sebastian-benedictflore yes but liszt made it for piano. he’ should be the one praised for the transcription, am i wrong?
@@stacia6678 You wouldn't be wrong about that but I don't know what OP means, might not be talking about the transcription. Probably is though lol
13:53 14:23
Great recording. What a shame that the piano isn’t entirely in tune.
The problem isn't on the piano but on the recording because the pitch changes during it.
Unbelievable playing but the bass notes of the piano sound really muddy. Maybe that is the recording.
it was recorded ca. 1960 so probably the recording. plus cziffra played some of the base notes 8vb, which distorts them quite a lot.
Cziffra generally played a Pleyel. I think that's mostly what you're hearing. They don't have the classic brassy Steinway bass you may expect.
I’m really glad that Cziffra played this piece and that Liszt transcribed this overture. I have made it a point to never listen to Wagner, and I have decided that this is as close as I am willing to come to listening to his music. That being said, I think the transcription is marvelous and Cziffra’s playing is superb.
why not listen to wagner?
oh because he gay
Nein du
@@ValzainLumivix Kif kid
Cry about it
Busca otro pianista.
Es porquería Dunot.
This is of course a 100% kitsch piece. Very expertly done for sure in the orchestral version. The piano adaptation just sounds ridiculous, like silent movie accompaniment avant la lettre.
Or maybe you've just let stereotypes about Hollywood music spoil your taste in Romantic music. Like saying, the Ride of the Valkyries became "kitsch" after Apocalypse Now.
You are a misanthrope, and a cynic, who puts all human endeavour into it's lowest common denominator, you are also unaware of your own ignorance preferring instead to comment on matters beyond your understanding. For the baseless and small minded comments that you have made, you should be forced never to hear another piece of music for the rest of your life, and then at least you might find some humility you pig.
Thumbs down for the mistake with the octaves scale at 15:00
Bravo cretin for the most idiotic comment of the month!!
@@frankromano9064 another useless, dumb comment.
Obviously a moron like you cannot discern a textual emendation from a mistake.
ㄴㄱㅁ
You are ridiculous.
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