@@anti8360 Supposing you're right, this would already be 40% better than what those shit graphs floating all over the internet are claiming, and better than what some claim are the sustained turn rates of the F-16. The reality is that unless you have a whole set of parameters to compare, such information is irrelevant. The F-35C can carry more than the weight of an entire F-16 in fuel alone (the F-35A has very slightly smaller fuel tanks), so if you compare them at 50% fuel, the F-35C would be carrying about 3 extra tons of fuel compared to a F-16, which is huge. Then there's the speed at which it's performed and so on. Here we don't even have a point of reference so he might've actually made two turns, half a turn or whatever, and we know nothing of the conditions.
Impressive AOA. Thrust to weight ratio way under rated. Never let em know what you've really got! As tame as this display was, it is still very impressive. Go Lockheed!!
most powerful fighter engine ever developed. has more dry thrust than most gen4 engines at full afterburner. i would love to see a two engined fighter with this beast in it.
Was going to come in here and totally bust on Pierre Sprey, but you guys already did it. Great job. I love it when pompous know-nothings get owned by reality..........................................
And then at 7:30 - that's a 40° to 45° alpha slow pass... And then without dropping the nose to gain speed, the F-35 accelerates into a rapid 40° CLIMB! What a winner! If I'm in a dogfight with ANY adversary, I wanna be in an F-35!
Yeah, that AOA was SICK, into a climb. F22 can do it a little better, but then again it was designed to do it better. Towards the end it looked closer to 50 degrees.
@@StOrmZIsoNItZWaY Not knocking the F-22 as it is beast, but the F-35 also lets you look anywhere through the airframe in any direction with its helmet display, camera package, and sensor fusion, so essentially nothing can hide from you- but I dont think any F-35 will be dogfighting as its driver would hope to spot, destroy and evade way before visual range.
It's amazing how people actually doubted the design from some of the best aeronautical engineers in the industry. Of course the F-35 was going to be capable of this.
@@danm4320 Lmao you have no idea what it's capable of. It's a lightly loaded aircraft. Real world load outs are going to significantly affect the plane's manoeuvrability and given that most of the time exact performance specifications of fighters are kept secret, there's no way of knowing whether this aircraft performs better or worse than a combat-loaded F16 for example, unless you've flown both yourself.
@@StOrmZIsoNItZWaY lightly loaded? It's got its full avionics suite on board. The F22 and F35 are the only 2 aircraft regularly seen in demos that are in combat-ready-condition. The only thing they're missing is ordinance. That aircraft as witnessed has 28klb fuel capacity. The F16 demo, 7klb. The F16 can't pull over 6g w/ its tanks on, 4.5g limit with the belly. You could slap that thing full of missiles and not even add 5% to its weight.
You trust too much the rubbish that the air force speaker is pouring thru the loudspeaker, dude. Couple of rolls and...hey presto, every armchair fighter pilot is happy, now!
@@bestamerica having the fastest plane doesn't win wars. Having a plane that has already destroyed the enemy before the enemy is even aware if it wins wars.
This demonstration of the F-35 has taken away all my fears and doubts about this jet being a DOG. It's NOT a DOG. It's the pilot's not the jet that's bad that I've seen before this pilot flying this demonstration; this person is a great pilot. I've never seen the F-35 do F-22 maneuvers -- plain glad to see that it could. "Great demo!"
Shows how ignorant you are. To assume the aircraft was a dog when it was previously flying on pre production software block 3i is laughable. Of course it was going to be an agile and capable aircraft. The JSF contract requirements called for an aircraft with performance like an F-18 or F-16. It does that and more. Not to mention an airshow doesn't demonstrate the true capabilities of the aircraft.
@John Buick Seasoned pilots that have gone up against the F-35 say they just can't see it on radar.....until it's too late. And the F-35 pilot said it was so easy that it was like taking candy from a baby
He's on the panel to pick Canadas new fighter. LOL Tipping he doesn't set foot outside his record store now. F35 has proved that Turkey Sprey wrong again and again.
An old F-4 couldn't come close to touch this Bird.F-35 could loop twice inside of a F-4 loop and still smoke that old straight line fighter.Very nice routine especially the tight 360 and pull up :)
Question. I live in Phoenix and go to Luke afb from time to time to watch them takeoff. Do the f35 demo team have a practice schedule they run by? If so what are the days and times because I would love to come and watch it.
Holy SHIT! The maneuverability on display from 5:34 on is an impressive display of high alpha aircraft control and the effect of an effective thrust vectoring engine outlet nozzle! WOW!!!
The best demonstration of what this fighter can do. They still aren’t showing everything though. Not in this day and age of hacking and reverse engineering.
Remember folks, this is all done with close to combat load (all internal). Put weapons and pods and missiles on 4th gens and they aren't going to do any of this. And definitely not at high altitudes where the air is much thinner. A Super Hornet can't even go supersonic with weapons! Those Sukhois aren't doing their fancy airshow stunts either. Just the center tank on the F-16 restricts it to 7g till it's empty.
F-16C sustained turn rate of 18 deg/s. F-35A sustained turn speed of 10.03 deg/s In terms of transonic acceleration, F-35A takes 63 seconds to accelerate from M 0,8 to 1,2 @ 30.000 ft, compared to 40 seconds for F-16. F-16s acceleration is comparable to that of clean F-35A only if the F-16 is carrying two supersonic fuel tanks (~60 s w/ 2 EFT + 4 AMRAAM). [Note here; according to Stevenson, 2006, F-16s acceleration values given above are achieved at 40.000 ft; at 30.000 ft F-16C would need 28 seconds, which is less than half of time that the F-35A needs.] Initial climb rate is 259 m/s for F-35, 315 m/s for F-16A and 254 m/s for F-16C. It can be seen that the F-35 is outmatched in air-to-air combat against both F-16 variants. F-16A outmatches the F-35 in all listed parameters, while F-16C is comparable in terms of instantaneous turn rate but has superior energy management capabilities.
In a cannon dogfight yeah it’s got it’s advantages. But reality is more and more BVR. Further turn rates on a ‘16 with missiles and bombs and the targeting pods it needs to try and keep up technologically seriously slow it down. The f 35 has smashed its competetion at redflag achieving between 15 and 20 to one K/Ds. And that’s not because it’s crap. Had this been the 60s or early 70s you’d be mostly correct but it’s not the 60s anymore. That’s not even mentioning a f16 wouldn’t know a f 35 was there until it was to late and even if by some miracle it got close it would likely get jammed by the f 35s extremely efficient EW package
@@tamoraboys4813 stay on topic this video is not a beyond visual range demonstration but i will endulge you.While typical counterpoint is that the F-35 is designed to defeat the enemy at beyond visual range, and not engage in a dogfight, that also tells only part of the story. Other countries have capable ECM/EW systems which can prevent radar lock at long ranges while cueing IRST sensors to achieve long-range lock-on and launch IR BVR missiles.
@@ancap1065 A Bi-plane has more impressive turn rate than any of the planes mentioned. The F-16 is being phased out and replaced by F-35s for a reason. Turn rates don't win air combat anymore. An F-16 needs to survive beyond visual range from an F-35 before it can engage in a dogfight. And that is by choice of the F-35 pilot. You don't buy fighter jets. People who do have much more credibility since their Airforce's lethality is on the line. Modern air combat is not like a movie dance-off. Winner gets to not die.
@@markvincentcocjin the f 16 block 70 defeats your argument and, yes these greedy weapons corporations also work in the department of defense and only want to rip off taxpayers by literally replacing the a-10 warthog by this stupid f 35 give me a break! its expensive garbage that deteriorates in the rain!look it up it has to be covered!
@@ancap1065 Only countries buying the F-16 are the ones who can't afford the F-35. The fact that you think the A-10 is still feasible today with its cost and effectivity against anti-aircraft says a lot about what you know. The A-10 Warthog can only function with support aircraft making sure nothing's out to get it. It can't fly solo without its own support or it gets knocked out of the sky by something it can't outrun. Your beloved F-16 is now relegated to a tiny country or third world air defense. It's not even an air dominance fighter. That would be the F-22 and F-15.
Wings are smaller and made out of high strength composites. The jet uses the lifting body design to take a lot of the stress away from the edges. It's more durable than any 4th gen fight.
I'm not in the air force or anything I just watch videos on U Tube ... I think the the two most advanced fighter jets in the world are the US air force F35A and the the US air force F15X ... I think that the Russian T57 isn't even half of an old F22 Raptor ? Just from a viewer point of view !! You can question me about this of you like .....
The Su-57 is a 4th gen fighter with some low observable properties. It's no more stealthy than the newer F/A-18's. It's a solid design, but nothing groundbreaking, and not even close to half of the F-22 as far as capability. And it's still not hitting full production, and it's more than 20 years since the F-22 was designed. Same goes for China's J-20... it's engines are so pathetic it looks like it's going to drop out of the sky.
Sprey has been wrong about everything he has ever talked about. Didn't want radars on jets. Thought the F-15, F-22 and M1 Abrams were failures. Agreeing with the man is the quickest way to prove you have zero idea what you're talking about.
@@jeebuzcrust Sprey is that kind of guy who claims leg muscles will slow a sprinter down because it adds weight. Those guys designed nothing, couldn't make a sketch by hand, never flew a plane, never fought in combat, never bolted a nut or screwed in a light bulb. Only the nutjob media takes them seriously.
Prob wrong but dosent it look like whatever flew bye was traveling much, much faster than the F35 ( who was going pretty straight and picking up a ton of speed). Secret Russian UFOs
@Blob B don't you love how everyone thinks we are replacing all our other planes just because we have a new one to add? Dave, bro, my dude.... the plan currently is to use the F-35 and F-22 as armed stealth spotters for more heavily armed aircraft sitting far out to engage with long range missiles. That is why you see a new F-15 variant being produced with missile pylons out the ass also.
I didn't have the time to watch the whole thing but doesn't seem any more spectacular than any of the other Blue Angels. 15 we're spending a lot of money per hour with these planes using them up for what to justify their amazing expense?
The point is that they perform the same kinetically as any top fighter on the planet, with stealth, sensor fusion far beyond anything in the world (even the F-22) and cutting edge radar and avionics. We're going to have 2000 of them eventually, these are early block models designated for training that were never going to be upgrade to deployment standards. What they get from recruitment from these performances outweighs the cost tenfold, as the pilot is still the most important part of the system.
The point is airshows aren't a real fight. In real fights 5th gens utterly destroy all older fighters. Also the expense you talk about goes right back into all the jobs and research and the manufacturing. Govt spending is good for the economy. Spending money and actually setting a bunch of notes on fire aren't the same, even if that's how it feels.
A 1990s era AIM-9X can pull 30+g at Mach 3. The F-35 can hit a target with that missile at 90 degrees off bore sight. No piloted plane is going to out maneuver that missile or future air to air missiles.
If the blue angels are a navy demo team they should upgrade to f35s cause its a navy jet, the f22 is a army/air Force jet the thunder birds are a air Force team they should get f22s
Demo teams don’t use the most recent aircraft, Blues would use the Superhornet before F-35 because currently they fly the Hornets. Same for the birds they use earlier models of F-16 and it’s simply to expensive to run F-22 on a Demo team
It always makes me laugh when people say, "I still prefer the F-22"... As if the F-35 was EVER meant to compete/replace the F-22. The F-35 is the F-16 to the F-15 (except with a more advanced sensor suite).
Air shows aren’t meant to be; e.g cobra maneuveras; they’re really cool and are a testement to the flanker but irl are basically useless. If you want an impressive practical display look at the K/D and mission survival rates these aircraft get at exercise like red flag.
I'm more impressed by the kill ratio of 1:19 at Red Flag. If you saw that in person, you probably wouldn't even know what's happening. Which is exactly what the reaction was from any country targeted by this plane. "Whole squadron dead Comrade. I kyannot understyand. Where is Kobra Maneuver?"
Lol good luck getting a target lock on something you didn't even know was there! The first sign a Chinese or Russian made fighter will see about the presence of an F-35 would be a remotely controlled missile fired from a completely different platform such as a drone/ship/sub/and that 4th gen aircraft that they were originally worried about because they were allowed to see it.
An F35 can see you way before you can see him. It has hands down the best situational awareness in the world. You would never get close enough for a heat seeker. Know what you are talking about before you open your mouth and let everyone else know you don’t.
Oh yeah, we are still judging fighter effectiveness by their maximum speed... Sure, sure, that's what's important. Oh boy, Dunning-Kruger effect, anyone?
Karl Gruner Avro Arrow speed- 3,887Km/h F-35 speed- 1,854Km/h Avro Arrow flight distance- 3,000Km F-35 flight distance- 2,200Km Avro Arrow lifecycle cost- $12 billion F-35 lifecycle cost- $25 billion I really wish the F-35 was able to meet expectations but it really hasn’t yet. I’d rather have an Arrow.
@@finskiandguns8534 LOL, OK, you confirmed my suspicions, you are a complete moron unaware of his own crass ignorance. But hey, maybe I'm wrong: how many hours do you have in combat jets? I mean, it must be a lot (including in 5th Gen fighters), given that you seem to know better than all the pilots, Top Gun and Fighter Weapons School instructors, engineers, leaders, and procurement experts of the USAF, US Navy, USMC, Israel, Japan, South Korea, the UK, the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy, Norway, Denmark, and Australia. Tin foil hat a bit tight around the head, is it? So OK, how many hours in fighters? I bet I have more than you do...
Karl Gruner so I guess everyone who disagrees with you is a moron? I’m just disappointed that the F-35 would get its ass handed to it by a modern Avro Arrow. You’d think that 60 years would match the Arrow’s flight capabilities. The F-35 has so many problems and every time they fix that problem they just find another one. When the Avro Arrow was first launched it had almost nothing wrong with it and it was the first ever delta wing aircraft, first ever jet made out of titanium and it was the fasted in the world. The F-35 can’t even compare.
your stealth technology collapsed along with the old s-200 us "invisibles" shot down in Yugoslavia. F 35 is not a fighter ..... this is a commercial project that knocks out huge amounts of money within the United States and among its members. And Su57 is a fighter who is several times cheaper.
@@user-sb5mu4wi5m you mean 1.... out of over 400+ missions that took the same route over and over? it was called over confidence, not the fact that low radar cross section isnt an advantage, igor.
@@user-sb5mu4wi5m Actually , during the NATO attack on Serbia( Yugoslavia at the time) in 1999, F-117 was shot down with S-125 Neva system, developed 1950`s, which became operational in early 1960`s. S-200 came later, in late 60`s. But this has nothing to do with PAKFA or FGFA ( or F-35 for that matter) program. Star Child obviously has no clue what he is talking about (after all , he is a child). India had zero impact on development of T-50 (Sukhoi) or PAKFA , from the start. They canceled FGFA (basicly, two seater PAKFA ). I am sure that Sukhoi will somehow survive that "blow". By the way, first serial (for me still T-50s, until new engine, izdelye 30 comes ) Su-57s with interim engine AL-41F1 (izd.117) wil arrive at the end of the year. Oh, yes, I forgot, it will have" zero stealth", RCS in order of magnitude of Airbus A380, as some of the "experts" here explained. By the way, superb flying by (pilot of) the F-35. Still nowhere near F-22, Su-35s and PAKFA/T-50/Su-57.
God its such a boring aircraft. BORING. And it'll kill shit. And help other planes kill shit. And return to base after boringly killing shit. Fucking great plane.
Just a more expensive F-16! I suppose it's time to take the T-Bird's F-16's to Davis Monthan and put them in mothballs in exchange for the F-35! It's been 36 years, so time for a new toy.
Who smashed whom at Red Flag? Not sure Red Flag has any bearing on the T-Birds flying recruitment airshows. Which is all the Thunderbirds are - a tool for increasing recruiting numbers. Actually, the F-35 would be a better airshow bird since it's the noisiest jet since the F-4. The F-4 gave perhaps the best Thunderbird performance ever. Those days are gone, however.
F35: $1.5 Trillion (A Ford Class aircraft carrier costs $14 Billion so you could buy over 100 of these for this price). It doesn't look good, it doesn't fly good. Maybe the best bits are being hidden from us.
@@bmelo909 $1.5 Trillion PROJECTED cost. This number will grow massively like every other projected cost on this project has so far. It could got to $3 Trillion or more. You keep on believing in the F35 if it makes you feel good.
@Blob B Is is irrelevant what they cost now because they will never be able to get back the money already spent. They are being sold at a massive loss against the total investment.
The SU-35 and SU-37....all though not as stealthy......are much better at low speed for impressive displays of flight......which works well against radar.......didn't see the F-35......try the Cobra.......? Maybe it can't do it?
no kind of manuvering is going to hide a su-5 or 37 from radar, the F-35 is doing this without thrust vectoring. lets see a SU-35 attack a heavily defended target or even have the Stealth, 360 sensors, BVR combat, and electronic warfare systems a F-35 has. any non stealth jet is just another target for the F-35 in combat
@@bmelo909 It's not about the plane... power plants .......or technology.....it's about stick and rudder.. fly by the seat of your pants fearless flyboys.....who can get the job done....F-35's even with VTOL....would break down on dirt runways!......Take an AK-47.....through it it in muddy water.....pick it up it still goes full auto....do it to an M-16....An M-4...your fucked......same goes for over priced military industrial complex crap....that we sell to the highest bidder......and watch families weep......from old man with knowledge!
Russian trolls are obsessed with the Cobra. Funny, because the Swedes invented it with the Saab Draken in the 1950s, lol. And the U.S. successfully built variants of the F-15, F-16 and F/A-18 that could perform it, but never purchased them because it was determined to have no legitimate combat use. Russians love propaganda, and are very good at it, however that is not what wins wars. Imagine living in a country where the government buys a plane because it can do tricks at air shows, then controls the media so its citizens are convinced the tricks actually apply to combat scenarios. Man, Russia is a weird, cold place.
@@NottyokPure ignorance and add stupidity to hate the F35 at this time. :) USMC F35Bs just back from flying all over Syria dropping bombs on ISIS targets. Combat proven by Israel and USMC.
To be honest it's very boring. The swiss F18 display is so much much better. I mean there the F35 has no weapon, has probably not much fuel and still has to use a lot of afterburner to keep the speed. I think in America you are used to have such boring displays. I'm not a hater but it's been some time that Im comparing the displays as an aviation fan. A lot of you are saying that it's amazing and whatever you have never seen a very good display I guess.
Gab Ross, actually, the impressive thing about the F35 Demos is that the aircraft is fueled and armed with a simulated combat load. Hang the equivalent gas bags and armament on an F-18 and suddenly it’s a dull performer. I agree that this one is likely lightly loaded for practice, but people need to understand that airshow antics aren’t anywhere near the demonstration of how most combat equipped fighters would perform.
I say its amazing and I was a F/A-18 C/D Operational Flight Trainer, Simulator Technician, I performed test flights every morning in the simulator for a few years to verify that it was fully functional before the pilots began their training. I had the Blue Angel pilots come in to fly the simulator prior to their shows at Barbers Point and Kaneohe MCAS (before it was changed to MCBH). The F-35's Paris airshow flight was confirmed at combat loaded weight and fuel, but only had the 3i software. Meanwhile the most amazing part of this video is totally lost on most people and that is the low speed high AOA handling at 7:24minutes in, that slow, upright walk down the runway into the vertical without a nose-dip to regain energy is truly amazing for a single engine jet fighter!!!
because you don't know what to look for in a demo. Civillians are impressed with Cobras and Kulbits, pilots look for other things. Look at the take off, this is when the aircraft is at it's heaviest point, the Su-30 has a smooth take off routine in its demo where it slowly climbs up. The F-35 is extremely aggressive, very steep near vertical climb and still accelerating. Lets look at the minimum radius turn. most planes do this at the end of their demo when the aircraft is light on fuel. but the F-35 did it barely 3 minutes into the demo. most planes pitch down to maintain energy, the F-35 is actually pitched up, then after completing the 360, she pulls up to the vertical. thats how much energy she has left. then lastly, the slow speed pass at the 7 minute mark, to regain energy after such slow speed maneuvers you need to dive down, the F-35 CLIMED UP... Thats serious power you did not notice these things because you were looking for slow speed, high AoA maneuvers,
The F-35, F-22, & Osprey have all been a collosol waste of money. Over $1.5T spent on the F35 and it's still a piece of shit! Both the old-ass Russian Mig 29 Fulcrum & Sukoi Su27 Flanker also outperform the F-35...
@Astuteous Maximus Jealous of a 3 trillion dollar plane that took 20 years and still not yet fully developed? In it's first outing got shot and damaged by a 1960s SAM?
5:35 - 6:10 impressive as hell.
TimBuckOhFive.. I just commented on the same time stamp as you. Yes! Very impressive. This bird (and that pilot) can do things you don't see everyday.
Such grace and beauty.
There’s that constant rate turn at 3:00 that everyone says it can’t do followed by a vertical climb out. Very impressive display.
Doing a 360 in 25 seconds is not impressive in my view.
@@anti8360 You can not tell if that is a 360 deg turn.
@@anti8360 This is a very tight 360 turn performed by F-35: ruclips.net/video/SIKQo-9b190/видео.html
@@anti8360 Supposing you're right, this would already be 40% better than what those shit graphs floating all over the internet are claiming, and better than what some claim are the sustained turn rates of the F-16.
The reality is that unless you have a whole set of parameters to compare, such information is irrelevant. The F-35C can carry more than the weight of an entire F-16 in fuel alone (the F-35A has very slightly smaller fuel tanks), so if you compare them at 50% fuel, the F-35C would be carrying about 3 extra tons of fuel compared to a F-16, which is huge. Then there's the speed at which it's performed and so on.
Here we don't even have a point of reference so he might've actually made two turns, half a turn or whatever, and we know nothing of the conditions.
Anti I have seen an f-35 do a 360 in 18 seconds which is on par with the f-18.
Impressive AOA. Thrust to weight ratio way under rated. Never let em know what you've really got! As tame as this display was, it is still very impressive. Go Lockheed!!
most powerful fighter engine ever developed. has more dry thrust than most gen4 engines at full afterburner. i would love to see a two engined fighter with this beast in it.
@@oldfrend Then you must give the Russians that budget.
someone needs to fund the CMC internal'd engine certification so it can get the 10% thrust boost for "free".
Was going to come in here and totally bust on Pierre Sprey, but you guys already did it.
Great job.
I love it when pompous know-nothings get owned by reality..........................................
Pierre "The Overcomplicated F-15 Will Fail" Sprey? Why did anyone take that guy seriously to begin with?
WOW. Cant wait to see this performance in person. Thanks for the video!
And then at 7:30 - that's a 40° to 45° alpha slow pass... And then without dropping the nose to gain speed, the F-35 accelerates into a rapid 40° CLIMB!
What a winner! If I'm in a dogfight with ANY adversary, I wanna be in an F-35!
No lmao you'd want to be in an F-22.
Yeah, that AOA was SICK, into a climb. F22 can do it a little better, but then again it was designed to do it better. Towards the end it looked closer to 50 degrees.
@@StOrmZIsoNItZWaY Not knocking the F-22 as it is beast, but the F-35 also lets you look anywhere through the airframe in any direction with its helmet display, camera package, and sensor fusion, so essentially nothing can hide from you- but I dont think any F-35 will be dogfighting as its driver would hope to spot, destroy and evade way before visual range.
Thumbs down, where is the ear piercing death rock sound track? And the camera work isn't nearly shaky enough.
and where's the hypeman? this isn't what i've come to expect
Tucowept Death Rock? I take it you’ve never heard a song with guitar all the way through have you?
I love that they kind of sandbagged everyone on the initial impressions of this aircraft. Now everyone will have to eat their crow about it.
It's amazing how people actually doubted the design from some of the best aeronautical engineers in the industry. Of course the F-35 was going to be capable of this.
@@danm4320 Lmao you have no idea what it's capable of. It's a lightly loaded aircraft. Real world load outs are going to significantly affect the plane's manoeuvrability and given that most of the time exact performance specifications of fighters are kept secret, there's no way of knowing whether this aircraft performs better or worse than a combat-loaded F16 for example, unless you've flown both yourself.
@@StOrmZIsoNItZWaY you don't know what I know either
@@StOrmZIsoNItZWaY lightly loaded? It's got its full avionics suite on board. The F22 and F35 are the only 2 aircraft regularly seen in demos that are in combat-ready-condition. The only thing they're missing is ordinance. That aircraft as witnessed has 28klb fuel capacity. The F16 demo, 7klb. The F16 can't pull over 6g w/ its tanks on, 4.5g limit with the belly. You could slap that thing full of missiles and not even add 5% to its weight.
You trust too much the rubbish that the air force speaker is pouring thru the loudspeaker, dude. Couple of rolls and...hey presto, every armchair fighter pilot is happy, now!
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F-16 is the best more beautifully plus faster speeding plane than F-35
@@bestamerica - Thanks for your opinion.
@@bestamerica having the fastest plane doesn't win wars. Having a plane that has already destroyed the enemy before the enemy is even aware if it wins wars.
This demonstration of the F-35 has taken away all my fears and doubts about this jet being a DOG. It's NOT a DOG. It's the pilot's not the jet that's bad that I've seen before this pilot flying this demonstration; this person is a great pilot. I've never seen the F-35 do F-22 maneuvers -- plain glad to see that it could. "Great demo!"
Shows how ignorant you are. To assume the aircraft was a dog when it was previously flying on pre production software block 3i is laughable. Of course it was going to be an agile and capable aircraft. The JSF contract requirements called for an aircraft with performance like an F-18 or F-16. It does that and more. Not to mention an airshow doesn't demonstrate the true capabilities of the aircraft.
IAB98Raptor Can’t Spell “Dogfighter” without “Dog”! May not be an Air Superiority fighter, but the F35 can hold it’s own.
I couldn't agree more that 100 of ✈️ hours for you this guy clearly knows f 35s capabilities and limits very well
She’s no F-22, but she’s still impressive
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@John Buick Seasoned pilots that have gone up against the F-35 say they just can't see it on radar.....until it's too late. And the F-35 pilot said it was so easy that it was like taking candy from a baby
Pierre??? Pierre??? Has anyone seen Pierre lately??? Where is that turkey hiding???
He's on the panel to pick Canadas new fighter. LOL Tipping he doesn't set foot outside his record store now. F35 has proved that Turkey Sprey wrong again and again.
Confirmed. You are blind: ruclips.net/video/6Kg-ztkPDok/видео.html
Check this video and be careful about your words: ruclips.net/video/euo6zlIWX_s/видео.html
He's probably plotting some more retarded arguments as to why the B-21 is going to be a lemon.
Someone should dump a 5 gallon bucket of horse manure on his head. If he can dish it out, he ought to be able to take it.
An old F-4 couldn't come close to touch this Bird.F-35 could loop twice inside of a F-4 loop and still smoke that old straight line fighter.Very nice routine especially the tight 360 and pull up :)
I think it's quite embarrassing to recall a superb airframe of the 60's/70's to demonstrate the F-35 superiority.
Jerónimo Rodríguez that’s because you didn’t realize he was responding to someone who said an F-4 could do the same demo.
Which it absolutely couldn't. The AOA of this thing is insane and a Phantom would have stalled multiple times in this demo.
Well, in fairness, Phantoms were dogshit.
Tight 360 ? Where is it ? a. Su 27 make a 360 in 12 - 13 seconds.
Question. I live in Phoenix and go to Luke afb from time to time to watch them takeoff. Do the f35 demo team have a practice schedule they run by? If so what are the days and times because I would love to come and watch it.
The only pilot who did so many back flips👈❤👍👍
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Holy SHIT! The maneuverability on display from 5:34 on is an impressive display of high alpha aircraft control and the effect of an effective thrust vectoring engine outlet nozzle!
WOW!!!
Lew Sheen this plane doesn’t have thrust vectoring which makes it even more impressive
@@lightningxx I think that was the point Lew was making
I bet there is not one Russian or Chinese pilot that wants to go up against this aircraft. Not one
I bet there is
@@bogdankovacevic6101 For the F-35 pilot it would be like clubbing baby seals. Easy
Great photography! Thanks.
People actually believed Pierre Sprey's criticism. Mr. Ass your hat is ready.
Astounding power and grace.
Back to your Jazz albums now Pierre Sprey, off you go old boy let the professionals take care of this one.
0:53 bird challenging the f35 😂
F35's first kill,,,,,lol....
Congrats to the cameraman, really good video!!
Awesome Manuvarability.
What is the passing object in 52nd and 1.22th seconds..?
What an awsome performance!!!!!!!!!!
When do the Thunderbirds get theirs?
Not any time soon. They get the super hornets in 2 years I think.
Eli Delp Dude, the Thunderbirds are Air Force... Super Hornets are Navy/Marines aircraft.
The best demonstration of what this fighter can do. They still aren’t showing everything though. Not in this day and age of hacking and reverse engineering.
離陸時にアフターバーナーを炊きっぱなしなのは推力重量比が低いからなの？
Remember folks, this is all done with close to combat load (all internal). Put weapons and pods and missiles on 4th gens and they aren't going to do any of this. And definitely not at high altitudes where the air is much thinner. A Super Hornet can't even go supersonic with weapons! Those Sukhois aren't doing their fancy airshow stunts either. Just the center tank on the F-16 restricts it to 7g till it's empty.
CHECK OUT THE UFO at 53 seconds ?
pretty sure thats a bird
that bird was super fast🤔
Bird was faster then the f-35 😂
@@4Nirvana the bird was close to the camera bumbasses
@@daybot9592 your point? Bumbass
F-16C sustained turn rate of 18 deg/s. F-35A sustained turn speed of 10.03 deg/s In terms of transonic acceleration, F-35A takes 63 seconds to accelerate from M 0,8 to 1,2 @ 30.000 ft, compared to 40 seconds for F-16. F-16s acceleration is comparable to that of clean F-35A only if the F-16 is carrying two supersonic fuel tanks (~60 s w/ 2 EFT + 4 AMRAAM). [Note here; according to Stevenson, 2006, F-16s acceleration values given above are achieved at 40.000 ft; at 30.000 ft F-16C would need 28 seconds, which is less than half of time that the F-35A needs.] Initial climb rate is 259 m/s for F-35, 315 m/s for F-16A and 254 m/s for F-16C.
It can be seen that the F-35 is outmatched in air-to-air combat against both F-16 variants. F-16A outmatches the F-35 in all listed parameters, while F-16C is comparable in terms of instantaneous turn rate but has superior energy management capabilities.
In a cannon dogfight yeah it’s got it’s advantages. But reality is more and more BVR. Further turn rates on a ‘16 with missiles and bombs and the targeting pods it needs to try and keep up technologically seriously slow it down. The f 35 has smashed its competetion at redflag achieving between 15 and 20 to one K/Ds. And that’s not because it’s crap. Had this been the 60s or early 70s you’d be mostly correct but it’s not the 60s anymore. That’s not even mentioning a f16 wouldn’t know a f 35 was there until it was to late and even if by some miracle it got close it would likely get jammed by the f 35s extremely efficient EW package
@@tamoraboys4813 stay on topic this video is not a beyond visual range demonstration but i will endulge you.While typical counterpoint is that the F-35 is designed to defeat the enemy at beyond visual range, and not engage in a dogfight, that also tells only part of the story. Other countries have capable ECM/EW systems which can prevent radar lock at long ranges while cueing IRST sensors to achieve long-range lock-on and launch IR BVR missiles.
@@ancap1065
A Bi-plane has more impressive turn rate than any of the planes mentioned.
The F-16 is being phased out and replaced by F-35s for a reason. Turn rates don't win air combat anymore. An F-16 needs to survive beyond visual range from an F-35 before it can engage in a dogfight. And that is by choice of the F-35 pilot.
You don't buy fighter jets. People who do have much more credibility since their Airforce's lethality is on the line.
Modern air combat is not like a movie dance-off. Winner gets to not die.
@@markvincentcocjin the f 16 block 70 defeats your argument and, yes these greedy weapons corporations also work in the department of defense and only want to rip off taxpayers by literally replacing the a-10 warthog by this stupid f 35 give me a break! its expensive garbage that deteriorates in the rain!look it up it has to be covered!
@@ancap1065
Only countries buying the F-16 are the ones who can't afford the F-35.
The fact that you think the A-10 is still feasible today with its cost and effectivity against anti-aircraft says a lot about what you know.
The A-10 Warthog can only function with support aircraft making sure nothing's out to get it. It can't fly solo without its own support or it gets knocked out of the sky by something it can't outrun. Your beloved F-16 is now relegated to a tiny country or third world air defense. It's not even an air dominance fighter. That would be the F-22 and F-15.
From 5:28 (the sound of that engine!) to 6:10 is just WOW!!
ok,this is second strongest air craft. she is great!!
Its airframe, the stresses, how? I doubt its durability..it'll need replacement wings for each flight.
What happens at 5:24 ? Amazing, i fell out my chair
Wings are smaller and made out of high strength composites. The jet uses the lifting body design to take a lot of the stress away from the edges. It's more durable than any 4th gen fight.
Yea
I'm not in the air force or anything I just watch videos on U Tube ... I think the the two most advanced fighter jets in the world are the US air force F35A and the the US air force F15X ... I think that the Russian T57 isn't even half of an old F22 Raptor ? Just from a viewer point of view !! You can question me about this of you like .....
The Su-57 is a 4th gen fighter with some low observable properties. It's no more stealthy than the newer F/A-18's. It's a solid design, but nothing groundbreaking, and not even close to half of the F-22 as far as capability. And it's still not hitting full production, and it's more than 20 years since the F-22 was designed. Same goes for China's J-20... it's engines are so pathetic it looks like it's going to drop out of the sky.
Is that rc or real f35? Wow im beginning to like it..
Watching the F-35 do the F-22 demo is like watching a fat guy do the Mud Run.
gotta say though, it's far more agile and powerful than I expected.
@P. Doherty if you drop peanuts while you're running
@P. Doherty you must be fun at parties
if the Bomb on the fighter don't scared the enemy then the Noice do, fuck it make alot of noice this airplaine.
The F-35 is compromised in all the ways Sprey said it was. Great job to whoever filmed this video; they captured some excellent visuals here.
Sprey has been wrong about everything he has ever talked about. Didn't want radars on jets. Thought the F-15, F-22 and M1 Abrams were failures. Agreeing with the man is the quickest way to prove you have zero idea what you're talking about.
@@jeebuzcrust Sprey is that kind of guy who claims leg muscles will slow a sprinter down because it adds weight. Those guys designed nothing, couldn't make a sketch by hand, never flew a plane, never fought in combat, never bolted a nut or screwed in a light bulb. Only the nutjob media takes them seriously.
Hi
F35确实很强大，值得我们学习
best ！
Just so so
这飞机的确猛
Nothing better than past year demo! I think that this year it will be more agressive show?
This is the flying bathtub.
What "TEAM?" That's a display by ONE aircraft...
What about people on the ground? Technicians, coordinators etc.
Wow! Best dog fighter along with f-22 within visual range.
J 20 profomance is very ferfect then f35
But more Stronger than your J20 🇺🇸🇺🇸
The way this thing flies looks like it could lose a wing and still keep going
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Ok but watch closely at 0:50 was that another f35 passing by or...? Must've been a bird.
Prob wrong but dosent it look like whatever flew bye was traveling much, much faster than the F35 ( who was going pretty straight and picking up a ton of speed).
Secret Russian UFOs
@@chadbailey30 I like the way the cameraman reacted to it & quickly changed his mind as if to say "F$#@ that!" lol
Lockheed Martin is coming out with a new f16 look it up
No, they're just preparing to build the same old design.
Navy ordered 110 new F18 super hornets
@Blob B don't you love how everyone thinks we are replacing all our other planes just because we have a new one to add? Dave, bro, my dude.... the plan currently is to use the F-35 and F-22 as armed stealth spotters for more heavily armed aircraft sitting far out to engage with long range missiles. That is why you see a new F-15 variant being produced with missile pylons out the ass also.
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I didn't have the time to watch the whole thing but doesn't seem any more spectacular than any of the other Blue Angels. 15 we're spending a lot of money per hour with these planes using them up for what to justify their amazing expense?
The point is that they perform the same kinetically as any top fighter on the planet, with stealth, sensor fusion far beyond anything in the world (even the F-22) and cutting edge radar and avionics. We're going to have 2000 of them eventually, these are early block models designated for training that were never going to be upgrade to deployment standards. What they get from recruitment from these performances outweighs the cost tenfold, as the pilot is still the most important part of the system.
The point is airshows aren't a real fight. In real fights 5th gens utterly destroy all older fighters. Also the expense you talk about goes right back into all the jobs and research and the manufacturing. Govt spending is good for the economy. Spending money and actually setting a bunch of notes on fire aren't the same, even if that's how it feels.
ther living more in this bird than this i think.
Bad turn rate, bad maneuverability, slow. Flying performance not impressive at all...
A 1990s era AIM-9X can pull 30+g at Mach 3. The F-35 can hit a target with that missile at 90 degrees off bore sight. No piloted plane is going to out maneuver that missile or future air to air missiles.
THIS IS THE 5TH GENERATION???????????????????
f35好袖珍啊
If the blue angels are a navy demo team they should upgrade to f35s cause its a navy jet, the f22 is a army/air Force jet the thunder birds are a air Force team they should get f22s
Demo teams don’t use the most recent aircraft, Blues would use the Superhornet before F-35 because currently they fly the Hornets. Same for the birds they use earlier models of F-16 and it’s simply to expensive to run F-22 on a Demo team
What about Su-35.....
Not even close
The F35 is here too kick ass and chew gum, and it's all out off gum.
I still prefer the F22. Not bad, but not awe inspiring, either. That price tag! It just feels like Lockheed Martin is looting the Treasury.
its cheaper than the ef2000 and rafale....and su-57.... have a good day/
It always makes me laugh when people say, "I still prefer the F-22"... As if the F-35 was EVER meant to compete/replace the F-22. The F-35 is the F-16 to the F-15 (except with a more advanced sensor suite).
Yeah it's cheaper than the F-15 ex without weapons and sensors and it's still coming down. You know how much the Rafale costm
Sorry but this display was nothing special. How easy it would be for a heat seeking missile to locate, track and go up the tailpipe of the f35.
Air shows aren’t meant to be; e.g cobra maneuveras; they’re really cool and are a testement to the flanker but irl are basically useless. If you want an impressive practical display look at the K/D and mission survival rates these aircraft get at exercise like red flag.
I'm more impressed by the kill ratio of 1:19 at Red Flag. If you saw that in person, you probably wouldn't even know what's happening. Which is exactly what the reaction was from any country targeted by this plane.
"Whole squadron dead Comrade. I kyannot understyand. Where is Kobra Maneuver?"
Lol good luck getting a target lock on something you didn't even know was there! The first sign a Chinese or Russian made fighter will see about the presence of an F-35 would be a remotely controlled missile fired from a completely different platform such as a drone/ship/sub/and that 4th gen aircraft that they were originally worried about because they were allowed to see it.
An F35 can see you way before you can see him. It has hands down the best situational awareness in the world. You would never get close enough for a heat seeker. Know what you are talking about before you open your mouth and let everyone else know you don’t.
Conrad Malschafsky easy, but even easier for it to sneak up behind a SU and hit it before it even knows the F35 is there lol
esti smooking..........shat
If this jet is so bad why would the Chinese copied it?
China copied the looks and not the guts or the stealth ability.
orlock20 looks is part of the stealth too, not just the coating.
誰だ？F-35を鈍亀と言った奴は！
WHO SAID THE 35 COULDNT YANK AND BANK
If only these jets actually worked, funny how a Canadian jet from the 50s is faster then it lol
Oh yeah, we are still judging fighter effectiveness by their maximum speed... Sure, sure, that's what's important. Oh boy, Dunning-Kruger effect, anyone?
Karl Gruner Avro
Arrow speed- 3,887Km/h
F-35 speed- 1,854Km/h
Avro Arrow flight distance- 3,000Km
F-35 flight distance- 2,200Km
Avro Arrow lifecycle cost- $12 billion
F-35 lifecycle cost- $25 billion
I really wish the F-35 was able to meet expectations but it really hasn’t yet. I’d rather have an Arrow.
@@finskiandguns8534 LOL, OK, you confirmed my suspicions, you are a complete moron unaware of his own crass ignorance. But hey, maybe I'm wrong: how many hours do you have in combat jets? I mean, it must be a lot (including in 5th Gen fighters), given that you seem to know better than all the pilots, Top Gun and Fighter Weapons School instructors, engineers, leaders, and procurement experts of the USAF, US Navy, USMC, Israel, Japan, South Korea, the UK, the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy, Norway, Denmark, and Australia. Tin foil hat a bit tight around the head, is it? So OK, how many hours in fighters? I bet I have more than you do...
Karl Gruner so I guess everyone who disagrees with you is a moron? I’m just disappointed that the F-35 would get its ass handed to it by a modern Avro Arrow. You’d think that 60 years would match the Arrow’s flight capabilities. The F-35 has so many problems and every time they fix that problem they just find another one. When the Avro Arrow was first launched it had almost nothing wrong with it and it was the first ever delta wing aircraft, first ever jet made out of titanium and it was the fasted in the world. The F-35 can’t even compare.
Finski and Guns wonder why it got cancelled 😂
so india pulls out of the Su-57 deal cause the thing has shit stealth.
this is stealth only in midlle of commercial plane...
your stealth technology collapsed along with the old s-200 us "invisibles" shot down in Yugoslavia. F 35 is not a fighter ..... this is a commercial project that knocks out huge amounts of money within the United States and among its members. And Su57 is a fighter who is several times cheaper.
Even the Airbus A380 would have a smaller cross section compared to the Su-57.
@@user-sb5mu4wi5m you mean 1.... out of over 400+ missions that took the same route over and over? it was called over confidence, not the fact that low radar cross section isnt an advantage, igor.
@@user-sb5mu4wi5m Actually , during the NATO attack on Serbia( Yugoslavia at the time) in 1999, F-117 was shot down with S-125 Neva system, developed 1950`s, which became operational in early 1960`s. S-200 came later, in late 60`s. But this has nothing to do with PAKFA or FGFA ( or F-35 for that matter) program. Star Child obviously has no clue what he is talking about (after all , he is a child). India had zero impact on development of T-50 (Sukhoi) or PAKFA , from the start. They canceled FGFA (basicly, two seater PAKFA ). I am sure that Sukhoi will somehow survive that "blow". By the way, first serial (for me still T-50s, until new engine, izdelye 30 comes ) Su-57s with interim engine AL-41F1 (izd.117) wil arrive at the end of the year. Oh, yes, I forgot, it will have" zero stealth", RCS in order of magnitude of Airbus A380, as some of the "experts" here explained. By the way, superb flying by (pilot of) the F-35. Still nowhere near F-22, Su-35s and PAKFA/T-50/Su-57.
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Lebih baik su 57 lah.
better a UFO...................
If only the F-35 can fly as fast as the F-15s can and the F-22s.
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american F-35 plane is a cool nice plane...
but need to add twin jetmotors are better than single jetmotor
풀스피드는 안하냐??? 저러니 추락하지 ㅋㅋ
God its such a boring aircraft. BORING.
And it'll kill shit. And help other planes kill shit. And return to base after boringly killing shit.
Fucking great plane.
Just a more expensive F-16! I suppose it's time to take the T-Bird's F-16's to Davis Monthan and put them in mothballs in exchange for the F-35! It's been 36 years, so time for a new toy.
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F-35A combines F-16C with F-18's AOA
Righhht that’s why it smashed them at redflag
Who smashed whom at Red Flag? Not sure Red Flag has any bearing on the T-Birds flying recruitment airshows. Which is all the Thunderbirds are - a tool for increasing recruiting numbers. Actually, the F-35 would be a better airshow bird since it's the noisiest jet since the F-4. The F-4 gave perhaps the best Thunderbird performance ever. Those days are gone, however.
F35: $1.5 Trillion (A Ford Class aircraft carrier costs $14 Billion so you could buy over 100 of these for this price). It doesn't look good, it doesn't fly good. Maybe the best bits are being hidden from us.
its cheaper per unit than ef2000,rafale or su 57.... you were saying?
1.5 trillion is projected cost for operating the aircraft until the year 2065 lol. the F-35 is cheaper than a typhoon and rafale lol.
@@bmelo909 $1.5 Trillion PROJECTED cost. This number will grow massively like every other projected cost on this project has so far. It could got to $3 Trillion or more. You keep on believing in the F35 if it makes you feel good.
@Blob B Is is irrelevant what they cost now because they will never be able to get back the money already spent. They are being sold at a massive loss against the total investment.
The SU-35 and SU-37....all though not as stealthy......are much better at low speed for impressive displays of flight......which works well against radar.......didn't see the F-35......try the Cobra.......? Maybe it can't do it?
no kind of manuvering is going to hide a su-5 or 37 from radar, the F-35 is doing this without thrust vectoring. lets see a SU-35 attack a heavily defended target or even have the Stealth, 360 sensors, BVR combat, and electronic warfare systems a F-35 has. any non stealth jet is just another target for the F-35 in combat
@@bmelo909 It's not about the plane... power plants .......or technology.....it's about stick and rudder.. fly by the seat of your pants fearless flyboys.....who can get the job done....F-35's even with VTOL....would break down on dirt runways!......Take an AK-47.....through it it in muddy water.....pick it up it still goes full auto....do it to an M-16....An M-4...your fucked......same goes for over priced military industrial complex crap....that we sell to the highest bidder......and watch families weep......from old man with knowledge!
Russian trolls are obsessed with the Cobra. Funny, because the Swedes invented it with the Saab Draken in the 1950s, lol. And the U.S. successfully built variants of the F-15, F-16 and F/A-18 that could perform it, but never purchased them because it was determined to have no legitimate combat use. Russians love propaganda, and are very good at it, however that is not what wins wars. Imagine living in a country where the government buys a plane because it can do tricks at air shows, then controls the media so its citizens are convinced the tricks actually apply to combat scenarios. Man, Russia is a weird, cold place.
@@VisibilityFoggy Russian aircraft can't fly all that much. Their engine reliability and lack of spares is notorious.
A Mig-21 would take it down in a dog fight.
F18 super hornet is better.
This display is very average at best. Nothing a F4 couldn't do 30 years ago. It MAY be a lethal fighter but an airshow bird it is not.
No. An F4 never dreamed of that kind of instantaneous AOA, and certainly never did a backflip to a 720 pedal turn before accelerating away.
@@SwingLowLeft Typical F35 hater with no basis only just came to hate I have never seen a F4 flat spin spin lmao!
Airborne I’m sure an F-4 flat spins nicely. Just not intentionally. 😁
SwingLowLeft Lmao right it just pure ignorance to hate on the F35 at this point of time.
@@NottyokPure ignorance and add stupidity to hate the F35 at this time. :) USMC F35Bs just back from flying all over Syria dropping bombs on ISIS targets. Combat proven by Israel and USMC.
To be honest it's very boring. The swiss F18 display is so much much better. I mean there the F35 has no weapon, has probably not much fuel and still has to use a lot of afterburner to keep the speed. I think in America you are used to have such boring displays. I'm not a hater but it's been some time that Im comparing the displays as an aviation fan. A lot of you are saying that it's amazing and whatever you have never seen a very good display I guess.
Gab Ross, actually, the impressive thing about the F35 Demos is that the aircraft is fueled and armed with a simulated combat load. Hang the equivalent gas bags and armament on an F-18 and suddenly it’s a dull performer.
I agree that this one is likely lightly loaded for practice, but people need to understand that airshow antics aren’t anywhere near the demonstration of how most combat equipped fighters would perform.
That because it’s not built for displays, it’s built to kill the enemy. You do know they don’t build them for Airshows, don’t you?
I say its amazing and I was a F/A-18 C/D Operational Flight Trainer, Simulator Technician, I performed test flights every morning in the simulator for a few years to verify that it was fully functional before the pilots began their training. I had the Blue Angel pilots come in to fly the simulator prior to their shows at Barbers Point and Kaneohe MCAS (before it was changed to MCBH). The F-35's Paris airshow flight was confirmed at combat loaded weight and fuel, but only had the 3i software. Meanwhile the most amazing part of this video is totally lost on most people and that is the low speed high AOA handling at 7:24minutes in, that slow, upright walk down the runway into the vertical without a nose-dip to regain energy is truly amazing for a single engine jet fighter!!!
because you don't know what to look for in a demo. Civillians are impressed with Cobras and Kulbits, pilots look for other things.
Look at the take off, this is when the aircraft is at it's heaviest point, the Su-30 has a smooth take off routine in its demo where it slowly climbs up. The F-35 is extremely aggressive, very steep near vertical climb and still accelerating.
Lets look at the minimum radius turn. most planes do this at the end of their demo when the aircraft is light on fuel. but the F-35 did it barely 3 minutes into the demo. most planes pitch down to maintain energy, the F-35 is actually pitched up, then after completing the 360, she pulls up to the vertical. thats how much energy she has left.
then lastly, the slow speed pass at the 7 minute mark, to regain energy after such slow speed maneuvers you need to dive down, the F-35 CLIMED UP... Thats serious power
you did not notice these things because you were looking for slow speed, high AoA maneuvers,
It's a war machine, no aerobatic one!
The F-35, F-22, & Osprey have all been a collosol waste of money.
Over $1.5T spent on the F35 and it's still a piece of shit!
Both the old-ass Russian Mig 29 Fulcrum & Sukoi Su27 Flanker also outperform the F-35...
Did you not even watch the video
Could you substantiate your comment with some facts? In what ways do those planes outperform an F-35 ?
Ah the sorry wannabe fighter jet
@Astuteous Maximus Jealous of a 3 trillion dollar plane that took 20 years and still not yet fully developed? In it's first outing got shot and damaged by a 1960s SAM?
@@yuv06 Where's the proof of an F-35 being shot down by any SAM site?
@@dave_riots Shot and damaged Israeli F-35 after that Israelis resorted back to using F-16s
@@yuv06 If that were true, wouldn't there it be trending on the internet? It's true that an Israeli F-16 was shot down, but no F-35.
@@yuv06 I saw a great selfie of f35-I godir over Beirut laughing at its Russian air defenses.. not even in stealth mode. lol
FAIL!