Eggbeater kick tutorial part 1
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- The eggbeater kick is the most efficient way to tread water, and is a necessary skill for those looking to complete special ops training such as the Navy SEALs, USAF PJ's and many others. This is a multipart tutorial designed to help get the eggbeater kick down.
Our progression will be very simple:
1 - Get the form and the movement down correctly. (this tutorial)
2 - Add speed.
3 - Come off the wall and ssemble it into the full eggbeater kick.
Up next: Adding speed and fluidity.
Your eggbeater videos have helped me immensely. At first, I didn't get what you meant about buoyancy, until I got into the water! Also, so much of the power comes through pushing through the soles of your feet. So, I've gone from being frustrated to being way more confident - thank you so much!
That's awesome to hear! I wish you the best of luck in your swimming endeavors.
Excellent tutorial.. i have my swimming training tomorrow iam gonna give it a try
Very helpful sir. Thank you for showing proper leg angle with such emphasis. I now realise why I was getting exhausted so soon.
I found your videos just in time. I start scuba training next month, and first I have to be able to tread water for ten minutes with no aids/equipment. The 300 meter swim I can do no problem, but I've never been able to tread water well. Now, with step-by-step instruction on proper form, I may be able to nail it. Thanks!
+SeikiBrian
Excellent - Focus on the breathing the way I describe it. Let buoyancy do most of the work for free.
This was super helpful. Thank you.
I was seaeching for a tkd kick and I found this
Its soo amazing how sports are similar ❤
For begnners like me, by helpfull .indeed. Owesome , like this video.
Be sure to check out parts two and three!
These eggbeater videos are the best I've come across on the web. Thank you so much for uploading these for the community here. I can't tell you how helpful they've been for me learning this kick. One question for you if you don't mind. Let me try and set it up for you, I hope it makes sense: Ok, so when learning the eggbeater for the very first time - hands on edge of pool, isolating one leg at a time for now - how important is it to cover a very wide oval / circular shape with each leg? What I mean is, should I be really focusing hard on making sure that I cover a wide amount of circular motion per leg, or can I narrow it a bit and straighten out the motion just a bit, as long as I make sure I'm still pushing down hard for some good upward momentum? I'm asking because here's what I am facing: I'm having trouble completing the actual circles with my legs with any sort of real power, but if I'm just a little lazy and do a more narrow "circle" rotation per leg, I can produce a great deal of power without tiring. But will this be enough to keep my head above water? I'm not a water polo guy I just want to be able to tread in a casual, swimming pool type situation, that's all. So is there any real serious draw back to having lazy, narrow circles per leg only regarding will it actually work to tread or not? I find that if I imagine bicycling pedaling backwards I can do a little better in the water but I don't want to learn the improper technique now, if there truly is a serious drawback to narrow ovals or if i'll still get the job done - albeit not "proper" form or the most efficient approach! I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Thanks again for making these videos. Lifesaver! I love the water!
Thanks for the positive remarks, I appreciate it.
There's no downside to having the kick narrower than illustrated, as long as you're not introducing a "snap" into the motion (bad for the knees).
Like you said, the main thing is to generate downward force to create upward propulsion. If you're doing that, and can keep it up under a variety of circumstances in rhythm, one leg at a time you've arrived at the eggbeater.
If you can put up a video I would always be happy to take a look and critique.
I also critique CSS, Free, and Underwater swim strokes.
Wow thank you for the quick reply! So, as I'm learning the eggbeater, it's ok if I stop worrying so much about forcing wide circles per leg and instead focus on avoiding a knee snap while still keeping my head above water? That's good to know.
So, one more thing please: as far as getting in my head "pedaling backwards on a bike", which many have told me helps to learn the eggbeater, do you think from a technical standpoint (and assuming worst case), I get in the habit of really straightening out my legs circles and not having much rotation per leg, but plenty of power and really good at pushing down and away, one at a time - should I be able to generate adequate upward momentum to stay above water?
I am trying my best to really do slow thrusting kicks pushing down, rather than doing way too many exhaustive kicks, you know?
Simply put, all I really need to wrap my head around is this. I am just confused about the basics of what the PRIMARY means of staying above water and treading is with the eggbeater : is your buoyancy dependent on the width of the "circle" motions themselves or is it just the power and rhythm itself in a narrow line circle? As long as I push down and out, one at a time, churning without knee snapping, shouldn't I manage to tread? This whole wide circling motion of the legs is tripping me up, I feel stupid. Confused about the mechanics and where the treading really comes from in this kick. I can do frog kick but hate bobbing. :)
Thanks for any suggestions!
The primary means of staying NEARLY above water is by keeping your lungs full (buoyancy). The primary means of closing that gap is one leg at a time pushing water down with the instep and ankle.
The circles your legs make have to be inward.
It's really just a frog kick done one leg at a time if that helps.
Without seeing what you are doing it's really hard for me to conceive it and comment specifically.
fargo007 What you just said clicked for me: inward circles are a must. Closing the gap is done by the instep pushing. I can't wait to try it again now, will upload a video when I get to the pool. Thanks again man, really! I love the water...
No problem, I'll be happy to take a look. If you have something like a go pro an underwater video is the best. I use one of those cheap kodak playsports to shoot all these.
Great video but just curios why do you have those 2 guys so close to you? They offer nothing but the distraction while watching your movements.
The footage was taken during actual training, it wasn't staged expressly for youtube.
Hey coach Freddy, is it possible to do the egg beater with out full flexion in the foot like some people in this video? I ask because I have very limited flexion in my foot.
Which flexion are you lacking - plantar flexion (pointing the toes) or dorsiflexion - toes bent upward?
Plantar flexion. I’m not concerned about this any longer as I tried this today with a float and I performed the egg beater with no problem. My problem now is keeping my head above water. I’m have a lot of muscle mass so my question is do I need to loose my muscle mass to stay afloat? Or am I just not doing this correctly? I have recent videos on my RUclips that you could look at to tell me if I need to loose weight.
Yup, you need dorsiflexion for eggbeater. I would need to see you doing the eggbeater with an underwater cam to be able to tell precisely if it's correct or not. Generally, it's a mistake to carry more weight than is needed to perform. I will bet you also don't have the required shoulder flexibility to assume a correct streamline either. Most of the guys I work with that overdevelop have this problem. It only makes them slower in the water and on the track, and forces them to work harder than the guys who are not carrying extra weight for the same result. There's no lifts, but there's LOTS of pull ups, run, swim, & tread. So basically: Keep the strength, lose the size. Everyone I trained who has shown up bodybuilder swole has improved by putting the focus on the performance elements that matter. Don't worry - you'll still look diesel! hahahaha ;-)
I appreciate it thank you! I’m going to take video of the next time I tread water. Do you have an email I could get from you so I could show you what I’m doing?
You can send me yours as a private message here on YT, or join sealswcc.com and message me there.
For some reason, I have been incapable of learning the egg beater.
Follow these steps and practice. It's the same difficulty to learn as riding a bike when you were a kid. After a certain point, it just kicks in. But you gotta put the discipline in and really work on it.
I managed to watch the whole series of this. Is it possible to learn this in one day?
It's possible to become a millionaire overnight, so sure. Why not!
If it doesn't work out that way though, I wouldn't let that get you down.
Thicc
What is the evidence for your assertion that this is the most efficient way to tread water?
Chris Doc. Anyone doing Eggbeater will outperform anyone using a different technique. We tread with up to 45# so it doesn't take long to see what works best. Eggbeater is also what is used in water polo.
I'm sure you have a point. I played water polo some thirty years ago. I don't think eggbeater was around at that time. I'm sorry but I do not understand your use of "45#" means. Would you be so kind as to explain?
The pound sign. Forty five pounds, a.k.a. a rubber coated weight.
how do we find coaches like u
+joshua english
I'm listed as a recommended trainer on stewsmith.com, and I also hang out on sealswcc.com where I contribute a lot and conduct swim critique reviews. I would start there.
I don't accept any fee. I donate my time to help guys who want this life badly enough to put the hard work in.
I will definitely look into it,uhopefully il be able to talk to a recruiter soon, il be able to get informaion from him and special thanks to you and others that help train us I really apretiate ur help
+joshua english
Anytime, and feel free to check back if you need anything looked at or have any questions. Most of the guys I help are across the internet, just like you.