The 3 WORST QUIRKS of the Boeing 737NG | Real Airline Pilot
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Can't you click on the yoke to get more leg space? 🤣
He can actually click a button on his yoke to go outside and have infinite leg space
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@@owenklein1917✈️☠️
Had some good laughs in this video. I never go to the toilet on a shorthaul flight but the next time I am on a 737 I will make sure I do
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I read what one former B 737 pilot said about its cockpit. He referred to it as a torture chamber because of its small size. He was currently flying the A 320 and loved the additional room he has in its cockpit.
I totally feel him
Saw someone that used to fly pax A330 and now flies the China Postal 733F online, complaining without the much higher pay China Postal is paying him, he won't ever fly a 737.
Ok .. note to self: If flying a 737 .. on the way to the airport stop by Walmart and pickup an SUV sunshade, a Husky floor liner, and a couple Glad air fresheners. Check 👨✈️👍
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This is what you get when the company doesn't bother developing a new aircraft but instead keeps updating a 50+ year old airframe.
Ultimately it's what the airlines asked for.
The one purchasing and the one flying is often countless ranks apart. See Starlux, they are full airbus as their chair files their own plane.
And the 707 nose the 737 uses is over 66 years old!
This isn't just a Boeing problem. If anything Boeing has had more technological advancements outside of their commercial flight division than Airbus.
Never expected the last quirk! I've been in a 737 cockpit and it is incredibly cramped. The A320 one is a palace compared with this.
It’s almost as if the 737 is still based off of the original 1960’s design and basically updated of the last 60 years.
That's why I don't like it. Compared to the A320 it feels really outdated to me, even the MAX
@@simpromedia2663 Let's change the wheels of our cars to stone ones, and our gasoline engines to coal engines. They work, why fix it?
Even if things works, technology advances and some models get obsolete in some aspects :/
@@simpromedia2663Then why does EVERY other Boeing since the 737 look and feel so _completely_ different? 😂
@@simpromedia2663 I think you will find it’s far more to do with costs. For crews new 737’s are a conversion course. If you start changing layouts then recertifications of airframes and maintenance procedures come in etc etc. if you merely “update” the existing airframe with newer technologies then it’s far far cheaper.
The 737 is just a budget airplane in many ways. Unbelievable that they never really modernised it.
You can hide the yoke in the efb setting
thats the joke stupid@@isaacterrainpullup
@@isaacterrainpullup naaa, are you for real?
@@isaacterrainpullup thats the joke
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7:28 _Toilet with Indian catering option intensifies_
That forward lav problem in the 737 is real. I'm a worker bee at an FBO and I fuel the occasional charter 737. As part of this, I have to stand in the aisle just outside the cockpit to talk to the pilots and exchange paperwork. Thus, I'm right beside the lav door and the stench is sometimes visible in the air. Besides this, the person who just committed the air pollution usually wants to get out of that cramped space as rapidly as possible for self-preservation and the door opens outwards right into where I'm standing. Thus, I get hit by the door. And the more the door is open, the more stench hits me. Thus, I've developed the habit of putting my back against the lav door and bracing my feet against the opposite wall when talking to the pilots. That way, I can hold the lav door closed until I've finished my very important business with the crew because, after all, the plane ain't flying until the fuel is right :)
RIP to the switch that emmanuel wasted because he tried to get out of the seat xd ;((
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Now I understand a bit why there are so many 737 incidents with drinks spilled on the center console 😅😅
Thank you so much for this video. I will be able to finally just send it when I complain to my airbus friends. And yes, it’s very small but I have never been so happy and confident about being well below the average height. Enjoy your table for all of us!
Thanks Emmanuel!! Another awesome video!!!
2:18 over in the US, the 737 is often used for longer flights than the Airbus, commonly used on transcons that are 6+ hours, so yes the 737 is commonly used on some pretty long flights. Not to mention if you have a poor jumpseater in that "seat" if you could call it that.
As a retired mechanic I can say that we also had great disdain for the Guppy. Aside from the cramped and uncomfortable cockpit if you get assigned to work on a 737 you are almost guaranteed to be working in the main gear well because pretty much every pump, valve sensor, switch or you name it is in there and it's absolutely the filthiest environment you can imagine. I don't miss it at all.
Nice video Emmi! 😂 I am flying this aircraft in VR and I was always wondering if i would be comfortable in sitting in those chairs as they do seem to be very small in VR!
I will now think twice before going to the forward lavatory 😉
Interesting. Now I know why my buddy (current E145 captain) wants to fly the A320 and not the 737, lol.
LOL!!! Nice one.
How about a top 5 of ur new Aircraft the A330?
Hello! Thanks for a nice video! Can you do the same video about Airbus? It would be very interesting, I think.
I used to jump seat quite often prior to 911 and trying to balance a tray with a cup of coffee on it was so scary I stopped doing it and went hungry.
Having been in the flight deck of the 737, I was a little surprised at the size of the windshield because I was convinced that the Kenworth T660 that I drove had a bigger windshield than that of the 737. As for getting in and out of the seat, I don't think I ever noticed that bar when trying to get in and out of the seat in the 737-800, however, I did end up having to use it on a 737-200.
When the seat is all the back to the back it's rather easy to get in, the problem starts when you got a flightbag full of food and water and a headset with you because it will prevent the seat from moving all the way to the back.
Adventures of an airline pilot, could be a new movie series...thx certainly put a smile on my face though i have also realized now that i have not been flying in a realistic manner reclining my seat back sometimes 45 deg or more...jeje
haha, though the fare-paying public would not step into an airplane anymore. LOL
Thank you for giving us your funny stories.
haha, I love this one 😂 and agree with all what you said . I'm so jealous about you table in 320
As a train driver whose company has trains with the lavatory right after the cab and with the lovely feature that its ventilation actually comes from that cab... I feel your pain!
I feel with you!
Squeezy Cockpit - try the MD 80's! (Mad Dog) & the over head panel was a dog's breakfast.
I have a happy fantasy alternate universe, where the 737 was replaced with a 757 derivative in the 1980s. Rear-engined, glass cockpit, commonality with the 757/767...
Interesting that all three comments are comfort related. But more importantly all three have safety considerations and I find it amazing that in over 60 years these have not been addressed. I am however thankful that one of the major failings of MSFS is that smells are not simulated.
Sure thing, safety and comfort (in that order) are the two most important things at work in an airplane. When you're sitting in the plane for over a thousand hours a year comfort certainly is a big thing!
CWLemoine, a USAF & USN veteran pilot who now flies 737s complained about all the manual pressurisation switches, which I agree. It is a hassle, and outdated architecture of the platform that can't just go away, much like its electricity power source switches.
For me, 737s cockpit size looks alright. It is a small plane with small flight deck. I've been to 737-200ADV, 737-400, and 737-800 cockpits, and I think it might form up my "default" view.
However, the 747s' are exceptionally tiny for such a huge plane. I've explored 747-400 flight deck during a tour of maintenance facility, and you can only stand straight in the middle of the cockpit gangway, as the overhead sides are adorned with protrusions. As a 175 cm 5'9" guy, 747 flight deck feels very small and cramped.
The most spacious cockpit I've been to is Dc-10, even with that flight engineer seat blocking the way. It is very wide and feels spacious, even more so than Boeing 777 or Airbus A330. Fokker F28, F100 cockpits makes me wonder why airliners nowadays featured oversized pedestal panel - it is so much easier to move in and out of the pilot seats.
Totally agree wtih the flgiht deck size, but in 2.5 years no toilet smell have ever come to me in the cockpit 🤷♂
Norwegian flies 6 hours flights, from Norway to the Canary Islands, with their 737-800’s 😊
Icelandair flies their Max from KEF to SEA 7h50
Copa Airlines takes the lead though for long range NG flights
But on those very long haul flights like KEF-SEA or return flights you have additional crew so also time out of the flight deck.
@@nielsmallant2710is the Max cockpit any bigger or just updated avionics ?
@@tjanson1 both cockpits are the same dimensions
These quirks, especially the last one made me laugh!
Interesting feedback
I change my boring desktop office work for your flight deck without any doubt😁
I keep seeing videos of people with home cockpits and wanting one, this is the first video to make me think "mayyyyyyyyyybe not the 737"
I heard that the plane’s tendency to hit the barber pole in VNAV descent annoys many 737 pilots… true?
A few years ago as my passion for flightsimming grew, I built a full-size B738 cockpit simulator. I also added many other additional items found in the cockpit, such as the FCOM manual, a flight bag, and a fire extinguisher to add to the realism. It’s hard to imagine when sat in it that it fits 189 passengers behind. Thankfully, I’m of small stature and I can see why a 6ft odd Cpt or FO would get uncomfortable. It’s a blessing when I hear Channex##** no further ATC monitor Unicom bye bye. 😂
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In the 777 and probably the A330 as well, the cockpit flow is higher than the cabin flow, ensuring a slight pressure difference between cockpit and cabin. This assures that all the offending odors remain in the cabin. Pretty neat.
Yep, we have that in the 330 as well. And the air from the lavatories is vented directly overboard and not mixed with general cabin air, unlike in the 737.
@@A330Driver So maybe that's why every time I've been on a 73, towards the end of the flight I could swear the cabin just smells of stale farts despite every assurance that it's refreshed constantly with air from outside.
Ah.. these pilots. What they do to get a coffee table... :D
Luckily I do not have my toilet close to my sim rig:) No smell here.
I had a life-long dream of becoming a pilot and flying the 737. After 4 years actually working in one, I can't wait to fly something roomier and modern and never ever come back to this old piece of airplane 😅
I’ll never do a number two on a 737 again!
Well crashing is definitely worse than any of the three annoyances that you mentioned.
Same on the B777 (Sun shades)
Delightful!
I had a go in a Staticbase 737 Sim a couple of weeks ago. For some months I'd been thinking the world scale in VR was too small, it isn't, I was amazed how tight a 'real' 737 cockpit is. Later I got up to go to the toilet, and you've probably guessed what happened next, I stood up and smashed my head on the overhead panel, it hurt; I don't get that in VR :)
I have never imagine the third worst thing 😅
Tiny cockpit size seems to be a Boeing thing. I got to sit in the B-52 and I cannot imagine 12-24-hour sorties in that.
@8:00 I suppose you could put on the oxygen mask lol.
Very interesting! I was convinced you were going to say the air conditioning, i believe you even sad in another video that its "total crap".
It is. But at least it's manageable, though with totally different technique than what's in the manuals.
Last flight I had on a 737-800 on a hot day the AC was noticeably weak compared to the A320 😢 I was like BRO TURN ON THE PACKS but apparently they were on 😂
Lol next RYR flight I am on I am going to eat some beans beforehand and lose some weight in the front lav.
What did those poor pilots do to hurt you?
Rather send a package of your best **** to DUB 😂
Dude, that’s bioterrorism, which is a crime against humanity
The title promised a funny video and it is Emanuel. However all those 3 quirks are really annoying, the slippery shoes in a cramped cockpit is dangerous at least and the last one... unbearable.
The VC10 had a toilet cubicle literally in the flight deck, right behind the FE's station...
I suppose it has its advantages when you don't need to leave the flightdeck if you need to go quickly 😂
Well, only way out seems to be permanently marking the lav INOP! :)
I always thought the cockpit had overpressure by supplying directly by the left pack instead by the mix manifold, i case you have smoke and to provide a constant supply of fresh air
circulation
but found a solution for the smell problem in the QRH 8.17
fumes source is confirmed to be on the
flight deck:
Caution! Window should not be
opened unless the source is
confirmed to be on the flight
deck.
Establish normal holding speed. High
airspeed may prevent opening the window.
======Open the first officer’s sliding window=========
greets 🙂
Theoretically it has..... Doesn't do much though it seems 😂
😂😂 thanx for the info Emi.
Caught myself laughing several times 😂. So those issues are what I'd call cosmetic and comfort issues. I could see how it'd get old if you were in the exact same aircraft type for 3 or 4 legs a day.
I have to admit to you that it’s been a secret revenge scenario of mine to kidnap the Boeing executive responsible for passenger seat sizes and to hold them for about 8-10 hours in a severely cramped box. Oh, how many hours I’ve sat there cramped and miserable on planes and relished the thought.
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As a ramper I have seen the safety card jammed in the cracks of the windows.
As someone who brake rides CRJs, ERJs, 737s, A320s, 777s and 787s I personally agree the 737 is tight. Even the ERJ feels roomy yes the CRJ is much tighter but that's a given.
That CRJ is just....... I know why the guys at Lufthansa CityLine earn more than those at Condor, Discover or DHL.
@@A330Driver For there mental sanity and the fact they will likely need a chiropractor
Have you done any weight lifting exercises lately? (This is a satirizing the fact that 737s can load luggage without another support vehicle as the cargo door is low enough. )
I had a friend that broke his finger on the Speed brake lever. like, real fracture.
Ouch! During automatic extension/retraction or how did it happen?
@@A330Driver descent, short cut put them high in profile, he went to grab the handle, hit his ring finger, felt a sharp pain, by the time to retract, he couldn't move his finger. the pain got so severe that he transferred control. at least it was a base station, so they had a replacement for him.
Wow! In effect the pilots have less space than a 737 economy seat with 30 inch pitch. Even if you have to put a tiny back pack under the seat in front you can move your feet around & so on.
The only cockpit i've ever been in is the 747's and dear lord is it absolutely TINY. I've only ever seen the 737's from first row and it gave me the impression of being slightly larger, if anything at least taller (after all you don't have to sit in the "bump" there)
I've flown the 737 and E jet, and they were honestly about the same size, which is to say, SMALL. Never been in a widebody or Airbus, so I can't really compare.
I've seen pilots also mention bashing or almost bashing their heads on overhead switches.
as 1.9m tall pilot flying the 73, i can tell you that i lost count of how many times i've hit something with my head inside the aircraft
@@sendvic1194 Lol, at slightly taller 1.95 or so with long legs I would definitely have to fly Airbus
Aircraft mechanic here, can confirm the overhead panel hurts when you hit your head on it
LMAO the lavatory thing was great 😂
I'd put a sing on the bathroom door saying that it's broken and only work for pee. Use the back toilet for #2. I assume there is a back toilet. Haha.
I'll be sure to have beer and burritos next time I fly first class, LOL.
I have been in a 737 cockpit sim and getting up from my seat I realized why pilots don’t wear hoodies and that I am too tall for this cockpit. Let’s just say they might be looking under the seat for the NAV switches for the next few thousand years…
Just finished my endosment so many band aid solutions.
Congrats!
oh nnoooooo the last one just got me bad
Ive done 5h sector and 4h sector return with 25mins turnaround in this coffin😅
Been there, done that. My condolences.
Now i know why ive seen chicken tikka masala in a tech log
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For more flight sim immersion, fly next to the bathroom in your house. Wow had no idea.
Or put a pod in your room? Okay okay, it's 2am and I just arrived at the crew hotel, I should go to sleep 😂
@@A330Driver lololoo. Yes perfect! Good night!
Or… you can just place a bucket full of you know right behind you
i saw an a320 air asia malaysia with only one toilet at the back if it help ? no more toilet smell in cockpit, but cramped as hell almost 190 pax
Poop smells in the cockpit?? I am dang glad I only fly the sim version of the 737.... 😅😅😅
This is amusing to me given the flip side, CURRENT Boeing flyers are always using the "tray table" issue as a way to pick on AB pilots. Basically as a way to imply AB pilots are "soft" because they trade their yoke in for a sidestick just so they can have tray tables/
I even don't like that forward lavatory either, but not for the smell but security concerns; I don't want to be in there to use it and then finding out that the a pilot had been "trapped" in the cockpit and had an "accident" because they had to wait for a passenger to finish before being allows out (per protocol). I understand these planes were made well before 9/11; but during the D-Check teardown, can it be reconfigured - I mean the plane is down to its bear metal anyways. I say the cockpit should be bigger and have it own lavatory, and a "sally box" (to pass the meals without opening the cockpit door).
Uhhh i never knew those sunshades where there 🤓😅
The 737 cockpit is a lesson in interior design and practicality. Specifically in what not to do.
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I would think the MD80 is a better example, just look at where they put the compass
The problem Boeing has with the 737 is not so much the aircraft itself as its two biggest customers, Southwest and Ryanair. They wanted the aviation equivalent of a unicorn: the efficiency increases a new engine would bring, along with no changes drastic enough to require any significant re-training of their pilots. Boeing went into the 737 MAX project with one hand tied behind its back by SWA and RYR, and the result was all too predictable.
As long as SWA and RYR demand no changes and Boeing keeps rolling over to them like a golden retriever who wants a belly rub, the 737 will remain an anachronistic antique. There may come a point where Boeing will have to force the issue and tell SWA and RYR to go pound sand.
I'm pretty sure Boeing knows the max 7/10 will be the last 737s ever certified.
The big problem is that the airframe is just too small in the front. I feel quite sorry for those poor guys flying the 707 long haul, even though the money and stewardesses probably made more than up for it back in the day. 😂
This video begs for some follow-up: there are bound to be some stuff you loved about the 737 and then the same two video, but this time about the A330
That's certainly on my mind!
friends of mine were getting kind of annoyed but every time the pros and cons of Airbus V Boeing came up my first point was _pilot comfort._ The yoke alone in my eyes is such a big point :'D
It's easy for flight simmers and non-pilots to disregard the comfort of a cockpit, ultimately they don't have to sit in it for twelve hours at a time. Just like the armchair you choose for your simming the comfort of your cockpit makes a great deal of the experience. Go for a bad chair and all you want is to run after a couple hours. Have a good one and you'll be happy after ten hours sitting straight.
if you list everything about the 737, the one and only thing I like about the 737. That would be PMDG. The only comfortable seat is 1A but the best part of a flight is disembarking. They should have stopped at the killed off the 737 instead of the 757 and built or acquired an A220 type aereoplane. The only place the 737 should be is in the sim and built by PMDG.
1C is better, you get an occasional sneak peak in the flight deck 😉
Use the daily newspaper as sunshade.
Time to pull that forward lavatory CB and make it INOP.
Lol. You won’t belieeeeve #3
Now I know why Ryanair pilots land quickly NO MATTER WHAT!
Can't believe that the cockpit was so cramped. Thought the pilots had the best seat. Wonder how the pilots flew it. Isn't there a safety issue in it somewhere?
The left sun shade on my pmdg doesn't move for the front windshield. Can only adjust for the side windows for some reason. Only the captain side does this. Glitch or something
Probably because you have the HUD enabled which limits the travel of the sunshade
@@iaexo Yup I had to disable HGS in the FMC settings. Thank you!
I'm never going to use the front toilet in a 737 again :D
I’ve seen pilots get very creative with blocking the sun 😂
We used to pull the yoke clip and stick the checklist between the clip and the visor in the E175 lol.
You bet so 😂
It was a conscious decision by Boeing not to update the 737 to current day standards, with only slight differences with the Max. All to keep type ratings easy. Sure that worked and was welcomed by airlines. Except, these days we see that most Max series will not see daylight because the types are not approved due to lack of safety and advisory systems of other current day airliners. With the choice not to change the designs over the years they took a risk and it's now biting Boeing in this segment of the market. There is currently a huge backlog on the production line for Airbus, Embraer sells planes like it never did before. it makes me feel sad to see Boeing grinding to a halt here for this segment and only sees a market in the 787 area. Boeing needs to step up and do something.
Oh God the last one ☠️
Glad I've only flown economy which means I never could have bothered him lmao
Have you ever had to abandon an approach because the sun was too bright in your face? Such that a safe landing by hand wasn’t possible?
It happened once in a C172, wind was almost calm and the sun just above the horizon in a humid environment. No big deal, there was nobody in the pattern at that time anyway.
7:50 have you tried to open the window?
727 Cockpit is so much roomier
Just click away the control column and you'll have more space, nearly like in the Airbus 😂
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How is the noise compared to your new aircraft?
Anecdotally it's much quieter in the Airbus - you can take off the noise-cancelling headphones and have a normal conversation with your colleagues. But in the 737 it's so loud you pretty much need to wear the noise-cancelling headphones all the time, which I imagine can be quite uncomfortable after a while...
Happy that there is no smell simulation in sim.... on the other side, I love the smell of kerosene :P
At least on the 727 flight deck with a 3 man crew you could plausibly deny it was you that farted.