@@wyvernesque No bait. I'm an aerospace engineer and private pilot supporting the fact the earth is flat and stationary. Nice try to discredit me though. There's more where that came from including links to my credentials. I don't hide behind anonymity. You on the other hand will always hide behind your anonymity like the coward that you are.
This is the comment I was looking for, I swear the only part of this video I understood was the introduction...this guy was rambling about plane stuff for the whole video, made it feel genuine
"you can hear ATC, i'm just going to ignore him for the time being - it's not relevant to what we're doing..." - said every MSFS veteran for the last 20 years LOL
@@hawksights i bet there will be others asap. Or MS put more time in the whole ATC system. ATM its pain online, it doesnt really watch for other players on the field. sometimes 5 people start and land at the same time
this guy: running checks, evaluating accuracy, redoing landings because he wasn't satisfied every other youtuber: haha airliner go bouncy bouncy bounce around my house
My father is a retired pilot and sure as hell misses flying planes, i`m not earning at the moment but right after my undergrad my first goal is to buy a setup for him to be able to play the new flight sim at ultra settings!!
thank you guys, top of my goals list! For everything he`s done for me and the family over the years, I wish to accomplish this goal as soon as possible! I`ve already started saving by doing some freelance gigs online during covid.
I'm totally blind, and have been really interested in this simulator, it's sounds and so on. Most of the videos I find have been just people playing without any dialog, so useless to me. This pilot has done an absolutely amazing job on a level with audio-description on TV for me, so I feel like I'm really getting an understanding of how he thinks and feels whilst flying. Stunning job. I hope he sees this comment and knows that I for one, sincerely appreciate him talking through so much of the flight experience. Best video I've come across so far, without a shred of a doubt.
People It is a good simulator but still a game. It is not real life. What going on with you people today? The same as sitting in real roller coaster or have a game with ultra realistic graphics and movements. Your chair is still in your living room or where ever you are sitting. Don‘t take games too serious please. Real Live is much harder in any cases ✌️😎.
honestly, I was thinking of that while he was complaining about the visibility while piloting the plane. VR support would be amazing for this. The closest thing I can think of is that space game, Elite Dangerous.
@@fillman86 problem with DCS is bad performance in VR. Thier graphics engine is outdated and does not take full advantage of todays cpu's and graphics cards unfortunatley
I love how he shows us his thinking about everything and treats it like a real flight. Also, his knowledge of EVERYTHING in the 787 even though he’s “not familiar” with it. Amazing!
Well as a pilot ur suppose to know quite a bit about any plane u sit in, since they got their similarities especially if ur an airline pilot where u have to be a quite experienced pilot to get that job, airlines wont give their multi million dollor aircrafts to any pilot out there.
The "not familiar", and then he owns it part, is a sign of an experienced professional. People who are good at what they do, do not focus on how much they know. Instead they always keep in mind how much they don't know. Which I think is great
I love the confidence and energy that comes from a guy that flies those types of aircraft. It's like the energy from a world class surgeon. They just exude confidence, because they actually know what they are doing.
I saw a professional A320 pilot instruct a gamer/streamer (smart one :) how to fly A320 in the game. They spent like an hour doing the actual checks and preparing everything before the flight, went really deep with the auto-pilot setup, flight plan, did all of the communication. And apart from a few little things on the buttons and displays that did not do exactly the same as in the real airplane, it all worked. Was pretty impressive.
So basically his biggest complaints were first that it’s difficult to accurately translate a natural visual periphery, and second that he was having a hard time reconciling his own years of muscle memory with the representative physical inputs provided by a PC.
@@immanuelj8952 VR would actually be great. It gives depth perception which is really usefull to help judge altitude and speeds, makes sim flying that much closer to the real thing.
@@jakeman025 I used to fly earlier Ms flight simulator and have some very basic experience in real Havard and Chipmunk. Looking at the 787 simulation that does look very complicated as modern airliners are. Some folks would probably be looking at this coming from more basic 'games' and having a professional pilot overlay his everyday experience and terminology is possibly a new experience for a lot of people interested in this simulation.
GivenFirstName FamilyFirstName i wouldn’t say useless. take sully for example, they kept giving him alternate landing strips till he hit the hudson and he didn’t say a thing back. were their efforts futile? sure. but they were there to help when he needed it, even if they couldn’t do enough to prevent a water landing they did the best they can do from the ground, and that was an extreme case.
For someone like me who's only ever done flying games with basically everything automated, so all I gotta do is wiggle the stick... The amount of preparation before taking off, and the consideration for everything in the air, is both impressive and really interesting to hear about. I'd like to see this guy getting more comfortable with the software, setting up full hotkeys for the panels, and taking a more comfortable flight.
@@MichaelS-vy1ku Been flying xplane in VR and it's super hard to go back to monitor again. Everything's way more difficult and unnatural. Plus being able to use your hands to control all knobs and whatnot adds immersion.
its muscle memory like learning words for a test if you do it everyweek day oor whenever he works its muscle memory he might have that with a routine you have
@@juliangriffiths9583 True. I can touch many of the flight deck switches from muscle memory. The seatbelt sign is the one I probably find the most easily.
@@Fitness4ever460 I'm not even a pilot or anything and I can memorise it too. It's not that hard once you get used to it and familiarise yourself with it.
PMDG with this sim with with VR. Slideshow may be smooth 2 years from now with new hardware and 1gbt internet. Most of the scenery is streamed unless you are going to cache Terabyes of data.
@Necramonium what trackir profile do you use? I have it but keep disabling it as i get really distracted as it is really jumpy and whenever I look down to much the camera goes crazy.
@Cameron Putt No clue in what country you live, gigabit in the UK is fairly uncommon, in rural areas like me impossible without thousands of pounds worth of fibre to be layed.
@Cameron Putt 100mbps, in a 23k population city as well as in the country's capital city. no faster and i sometimes hate it. though my isp bugged out one day and i had well over 380mbps
I love this! Real pilot, a bit grouchy about the simulator. Exactly what I've been wanting to see. All of the other reviews are gamers - I don't really care about their opinions, I wanted to hear from a real pilot who isn't really into sims and this delivered 100 percent.
Nick will be back around again following the release of the PMDG 737! Hopefully I have more flight sim hardware by then to make his experience a lot better! 😁 Also, MFS giveaway at 20K, that’s my present and promise to you 🎁 Disclaimer - OBS wasn’t recording properly hence the stuttering
No, it has to do with the Microsoft flight model of the 727 making it easier to fly for non-pilot sim-pilots, but making it behave differently than the real world aircraft that this experienced pilot expects. It has a LOT to do with the fact that the flight model does not correctly deal with induced drag that should have rapidly slowed the aircraft on flaring over the runway. One thing a lot of "gamers" confuse is display frame rates as opposed to "re-calculation" rates. This means the computer is calculating the actions of the aircraft at a much higher rate than the graphics are being displayed. Never the less, our eyes and brain interpret as low as 12 FPS as smooth movement. Every movie you ever watched in the theater (with the exception of a couple of experimental movies) you watched at 24 FPS. Our brains "extrapolate" movement at 1/10th second intervals or about 10 FPS. Only rare individuals can see the difference beyond 30 FPS and MSFS usually runs at 30 to 60 FPS even on the most limited systems.
3DPDK I partly agree. But our brain does not work in frames per second, it has more to do with the relation between frames. The phi effect for instance : you could see something at 20fps running smooth and another thing at 20fps not smooth at all. In theaters, it’s 48 half frames per second, simplified in « 24 frames per second » so people understand better.
It's a freakin' default aircraft. Wait until Quality Wings and PMDG brings out proper aircrafts and bring him back in. Also Chase Plane and TrackIR will help, when that is available for FS2020.
tell me about it ive been trying to watch a real pilot reactions or thoughts. Im not familiar with all the guages and such and trying to learn the cessna atm.
Yeah... I was the first real 787 pilot I know to fly it (and I agree with Nick, the default is frustrating, as we expected), I was even having to do reviews on someone else preview, because most of us were left out of the alphas and betas. I'm glad enough they got the C152 and 172 really nicely done, though.
A V.R. interface would solve the visual restrictions Capt Nick is speaking of ... the ability to look over your shoulder "naturally". The closest I've ever come to it is setting up three monitors, but unless the monitors are identical the misalignment becomes more of a nuisance than anything else, and it's still at a reduced scale. Lets hope the developers put in the effort to include this. V.R. also adds depth perception that you don't get from a flat screen. It can make a big difference in especially when landing if you can tell how far away the runway is. The mock-up cockpit would be nice but you've got to have the room for it. I live on a boat so I'll be happy just with V.R.
Pai prematuro seems like a game to me. Xbox Achievements, missions, stats, can be played with a controller. May be more on the realistic side but something that can be played for fun is very much a game.
there’s really no point in arguing whether it’s a game or not If you find it fun, it’s a game If you use it for practice and simulation 100% , it’s not Up to you
Earth is flat and stationary. The fact that planes fly straight and level proves we live on a level plane. The truth is simple. Lies are complex. Education is indoctrination.
"You can hear the Air Traffic Control talking there, we're just going to ignore him for the time being, it's not relevant for what we're doing here.. We're just trying out this flight simulator." A pilot's responsibility to the end. Even in a "game". So great 😄
ThunderBlastvideo No, you don’t. Whoever told you you “need” 32 GB of RAM to run this game is lying to you. My 2070S, 8700K, and 16GB of RAM do perfectly fine.
In the 80s I had twenty hours flight training in a Piper Tomahawk and when I played MS Flight Simulator I used to say it was easier to land a real plane for the reasons he says, you couldn't look side to side and get the same feeling for things.
8:11 I like how he goes on and on saying everything he's going to switch and activate to take off... Meanwhile I just press A on the controller, pull the stick and I go flying! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi Dan we’ve flown together in NUK. Brilliant video. The steering in the final approach in FS2020 seems strange to me. The dynamics are not even close to real life but it’s still fun to try
Nick - Brainwashed, indoctrinated, and programmed. A glorified taxi driver. Me - Aerospace Engineer and private pilot supporting the fact the Earth is flat and stationary.
11:07 Even though the landing was a bit ragged, I'm amazed he was even able to fly it as well as he did, considering that he 1) didn't have a yoke or throttle levers; 2) couldn't see the whole instrument panel/controls without constantly working the mouse; and 3) had to click on all the controls instead of actually reaching for them. It just goes to show how much extra headroom an experienced professional pilot has, beyond what is actually necessary to fly the aircraft in normal conditions. Good thing, too, since I would imagine that is the only way they are going to be able to handle things if there is some sort of failure or emergency. Heck, if I had to drive a car with a keyboard, I probably would crash trying to back into my driveway!
@@AbsoluteSkycaptain Yeah the HP Reverb G2 which releases this fall is going to get it first, afterwards, all other VR headsets will receive support in the coming months including oculus, HTC, Valve Index and many more.
Purple Planet I got lucky to try it once on X plane 11. At least there you used the 2 controllers and pressed the buttons in the cockpit with them. I think you can use yoke, rudder pedals and keyboard too though, because you can move the location of the camera with the controllers.
You will need a next gen flagship GPU to run it with vr lol. 30fps would make you feel dizzy in VR, and thats the framerate 2080ti can achieve at 4k.....😝
The 787 landings 😂😂😂 I’m dead 😂 I can relate so much. Flying a real plane is often so much easier as professional pilot than sims hahahaa. Love to see that he still abides by his fundamentals even at that level of flying! Very encouraging for me as I work my way up the pilot career ladder! I think for pros the best value this can provide is your IMC scan practise and flows and checks practise. That’s what I’m hoping for myself. Landings you just gotta practise in the real plane unfortunately 😭😭
To be honest, the fact such a simulator exists is impressive. It opens up an avenue to experience what it's like to fly a plane to anyone who may never have the opportunity to do so.
It's great the way he manages to say quite a lot of things are really not up to scratch in the game and/or setup but still sounds totally reasonable and considerate with it.
Earth is flat and stationary. The fact that planes fly straight and level proves we live on a level plane. The truth is simple. Lies are complex. Education is indoctrination.
That was awesome. I’m glad I read that part when he over shot the first landing I was like rev her up and go around, then he did. 😅 He’s explanation was incredible great insight.
@@thebenson999 Oh hey look, it's "Mr. Nitpickey RUclips Commenter Guy!" The guy that picks at strawmen while completely ignoring the context of the conversation.
Puhi Ropitini It’s not. Look it up. There’s no such thing as “could of,” “should of,” “would of,” etc. They have never been correct even if they sound similar.
@@puhiropitini found the illiterate who thinks his basic grammar mistakes are acceptable. They are not because they're basic. That you tried to defend them is ridiculous. When someone corrects your silly mistakes say thank you and keep it moving, we do it to improve the overall quality of communication in the future with one less mistake being made by someone like you in the future
It still amazes me how pilots fly this simulator and admire it. yet there are so many people bashing the sim in favor of either prepar3d or xplane11 calling msfs2020 a "arcade game"
Sam Alex It does have its problems which can affect the initial download, and the ifr at the moment for larger aircraft is eh. But this game is 3 days old lol people beed to cut it some slack and appreciate what it has accomplished lol
@@AlbertoFormica When it comes to flying games it's better. You don't have to turn yourself so much and the quality of the graphics doesn't drop so much
Keep in mind VR sucks for youtube, instructor/student training, and it can be hard to twist frequencies with controllers when using Pilotedge ATC online. Hope your girlfriend doesn't move out the furniture when you are making funny noises and goofy gyrations while inside headset. LOL
Would have been cool to see an updated video of this with the same pilot, only this time using the HP Reverb G2. After testing out VR on this sim I’m absolutely stunned of how realistic and real to life it feels. Flying in 2D can’t compare imo.
The experience he’s having with landing is a common one. Landing a real aircraft is SO MUCH EASIER than a flight sim. For some reason, everything just feels “bigger” and “slower” in reality. Not only that but you have full control (I don’t know how else to explain it), you can look around naturally, you can sense every motion and that tendency to over rotate and float for days just doesn’t happen in real life. Flying is a LOT easier than flight simulator haha. The only aspect that’s trickier is radio communication. Radio communication is mandatory, specific and highly specialized. That’s the only aspect of flying I’ve found to be more difficult in real life...that and MAYBE steep turns. If you aren’t comfortable holding 2 G’s for an extended period of time, steep turns can get a little tricky.
From my own limited experience, you're right in many regards. Real aircraft give so much more feedback, which is simply not available in a simulation like this with you comfortably sat in your office chair at home. The Cessna 152 Aerobat feels appropriately "snappy" in its handling which is what I did the majority of my flight hours in, even if that was sadly limited. I always preferred flying the 172 Skyhawk though on the couple of occasions I managed to get in one, it had just that little extra bit of heft to it meaning it was much more stable than the 152.
Drunken_Jedi I’m a piper guy, myself. I’ve spent some time in the 172 but the Cherokee variants are my “comfort zone”. I think it’s mostly because I spent most of my training time in a warrior or a Grumman AA1A. The funniest memory I have in a 172...my usual warrior was in the hangar for something or other so we took up the 172 for some “turns around a point” and all that fun stuff. I was so used to the low wing piper’s ground effect on landing (and if we’re being honest, still a pretty low hour pilot, period) that I came really, REALLY close to planting the 172 like a doofus. I mean, *milliseconds* later we would’ve been PIOing down the runway with everyone on the field pointing and laughing...
manifestgtr Lol yeah I can imagine it would handle quite differently. I’ve never flown a low wing config so can’t really speak for it. Missing flying a lot these days would love to hop back in the Cessna again.
I love how he actually talks, with the typical pilot intonation.
Lol he talks exactly the same way my instructor talks (only with less disappointment in his voice 🤷)
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He's an indoctrinated, brainwashed buffoon. A glorified taxi driver. Earth is flat and stationary.
Awkwardly Cast nice bait
@@wyvernesque No bait. I'm an aerospace engineer and private pilot supporting the fact the earth is flat and stationary. Nice try to discredit me though. There's more where that came from including links to my credentials. I don't hide behind anonymity. You on the other hand will always hide behind your anonymity like the coward that you are.
Don't know what he's saying but he sounds like he is a good pilot
lmao
This is the comment I was looking for, I swear the only part of this video I understood was the introduction...this guy was rambling about plane stuff for the whole video, made it feel genuine
How do you not understand him from where I’m from there’s more broader accents than his
@@anonymousrobot1433 not his accent what he's saying to big brain for us
Lol
"you can hear ATC, i'm just going to ignore him for the time being - it's not relevant to what we're doing..." - said every MSFS veteran for the last 20 years LOL
@@hawksights i bet there will be others asap. Or MS put more time in the whole ATC system. ATM its pain online, it doesnt really watch for other players on the field. sometimes 5 people start and land at the same time
@Bounze there's been many before this is just the latest one
@Bounze Devon is talking about all previous MSFS that came out in the past 1-2 decades
Bounze MSFS has been going since 1984
Use time stamps
this guy: running checks, evaluating accuracy, redoing landings because he wasn't satisfied
every other youtuber: haha airliner go bouncy bouncy bounce around my house
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My father is a retired pilot and sure as hell misses flying planes, i`m not earning at the moment but right after my undergrad my first goal is to buy a setup for him to be able to play the new flight sim at ultra settings!!
damn dude thats so cool !
You'll do it.
Do it and give us an upgrade when its done ;)
thank you guys, top of my goals list! For everything he`s done for me and the family over the years, I wish to accomplish this goal as soon as possible! I`ve already started saving by doing some freelance gigs online during covid.
Nothing is really running it well yet so hopefully by then they have the drivers for the game working right.
"Having not flown since March, I was quite happy to be invited to try this..." That broke me.
Dude, it broke you...?
broke you...?
Broke you...?
it.. "broke" you... ?
That broke you??
I'm totally blind, and have been really interested in this simulator, it's sounds and so on.
Most of the videos I find have been just people playing without any dialog, so useless to me.
This pilot has done an absolutely amazing job on a level with audio-description on TV for me, so I feel like I'm really getting an understanding of how he thinks and feels whilst flying.
Stunning job.
I hope he sees this comment and knows that I for one, sincerely appreciate him talking through so much of the flight experience.
Best video I've come across so far, without a shred of a doubt.
I hope he is going to make series out of this so that you can experience this more often
Shut up
Lots of flight simulator youtube vids for Audio Andre
@@hughmungus5158 get off the internet, kid.
how did u type this paragraph?
Love how he verbalises everything he's doing and thinking
Probably because he’s had experience with teaching other pilots
I really appreciated that as a novice in flight simulator
The ladies love it too
Me too
They have to, they normally need to let the co-pilot know what they are doing/having done, also leave records for the black boxes.
Typical Gamer: Wow this looks so realistic
Real Pilot: It's a bit unrealistic to me
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Correct. Flight sim is never like the real thing
People It is a good simulator but still a game. It is not real life. What going on with you people today? The same as sitting in real roller coaster or have a game with ultra realistic graphics and movements. Your chair is still in your living room or where ever you are sitting. Don‘t take games too serious please. Real Live is much harder in any cases ✌️😎.
ELSE B. There is a difference between a Flight Simulator and a Game.
@@CaptainJadenAR Yes but a Flight Simulator is still a Game and not Real. You can prepare and learn some things. But the true Test is in Real Life.
Amended title, "real pilot points out why VR is needed"
Agreed
honestly, I was thinking of that while he was complaining about the visibility while piloting the plane. VR support would be amazing for this. The closest thing I can think of is that space game, Elite Dangerous.
once this gets proper vr I will be buying for sure
There's also "DCS" and "vtol vr" as vr flight sims. But I want this in vr.
@@fillman86 problem with DCS is bad performance in VR. Thier graphics engine is outdated and does not take full advantage of todays cpu's and graphics cards unfortunatley
I love how he shows us his thinking about everything and treats it like a real flight. Also, his knowledge of EVERYTHING in the 787 even though he’s “not familiar” with it. Amazing!
He's flying a shorter variant of 787in real life, the same plane basically
Well as a pilot ur suppose to know quite a bit about any plane u sit in, since they got their similarities especially if ur an airline pilot where u have to be a quite experienced pilot to get that job, airlines wont give their multi million dollor aircrafts to any pilot out there.
Agreed. This is hands down the best flight sim video I’ve seen so far
MR. Darknight yeah rn my Dad is studying for his 787 qual and he has to essentially memorize some 200-300 page manual, that’s before the simulator
The "not familiar", and then he owns it part, is a sign of an experienced professional. People who are good at what they do, do not focus on how much they know. Instead they always keep in mind how much they don't know. Which I think is great
My father has a throttle, joystick, and pedals. I feel like this guy would appreciate that a little more than just the joystick.
I recommend track IR. Makes flying games much much better
And multiple monitors to display the side views. I think all his issues here were not having the right flight sim hardware, not the software itself.
Jfgh Yep he has that too.
SuperTekBoy Agreed. My father has 2, but ideally, you’d have 3. 2 of which would be on the side.
GroundPound69 also has that
I love the confidence and energy that comes from a guy that flies those types of aircraft. It's like the energy from a world class surgeon. They just exude confidence, because they actually know what they are doing.
the confidence when he says no go around spoken like a true pilot
He _is_ a true pilot 😂😆
Me. pushes nose down and stamp on the brakes.
@@janrdoh Aghgh. Just.... please... don't _do_ that.
@@3bigbignig-abandoned It's okay there are sick bags in the pouch of the seat in front of you.
@@janrdoh Hahaha thanks😂
I saw a professional A320 pilot instruct a gamer/streamer (smart one :) how to fly A320 in the game. They spent like an hour doing the actual checks and preparing everything before the flight, went really deep with the auto-pilot setup, flight plan, did all of the communication. And apart from a few little things on the buttons and displays that did not do exactly the same as in the real airplane, it all worked. Was pretty impressive.
Cant 100% believe that like half of the buttons don't work in the a320neo but most of them you probably don't use url as well
Can we have a link plz
So basically his biggest complaints were first that it’s difficult to accurately translate a natural visual periphery, and second that he was having a hard time reconciling his own years of muscle memory with the representative physical inputs provided by a PC.
Also missing features. There are so many buttons that don't work in the planes.
Sounds like he needs to try this again, in VR with the correct controls!!
Matt Magayna don’t think VR would work properly considering the absurdly low optimization. Maybe track ir.
Immanuel J they said they were adding VR
@@immanuelj8952 VR would actually be great. It gives depth perception which is really usefull to help judge altitude and speeds, makes sim flying that much closer to the real thing.
I've never watched something so interesting to me whilst not understanding what he's talking about at all... :)
I’ve never flown an aircraft but it’s fairly easily to follow along he explains very well. What did you not understand?
@@jakeman025 I used to fly earlier Ms flight simulator and have some very basic experience in real Havard and Chipmunk. Looking at the 787 simulation that does look very complicated as modern airliners are. Some folks would probably be looking at this coming from more basic 'games' and having a professional pilot overlay his everyday experience and terminology is possibly a new experience for a lot of people interested in this simulation.
Same. He's very interesting to listen to.
I have that experience when watching porn in spanish
You should watch Digital Foundry videos, you'll get the same feeling there.
"Air traffic control is there, but I ignore them for the moment" - Said no pilot ever :-P
Aviate, navigate then communicate. In how many emergencies are they a useless distraction?
GivenFirstName FamilyFirstName i wouldn’t say useless. take sully for example, they kept giving him alternate landing strips till he hit the hudson and he didn’t say a thing back. were their efforts futile? sure. but they were there to help when he needed it, even if they couldn’t do enough to prevent a water landing they did the best they can do from the ground, and that was an extreme case.
its a game and the real pilot knows this :P
...said every pilot playing a fictional flight sim. ;)
sadly happened in PIA plane crash (PK 8303)
For someone like me who's only ever done flying games with basically everything automated, so all I gotta do is wiggle the stick... The amount of preparation before taking off, and the consideration for everything in the air, is both impressive and really interesting to hear about. I'd like to see this guy getting more comfortable with the software, setting up full hotkeys for the panels, and taking a more comfortable flight.
If you get TrackIR that will CHANGE YOUR LIFE!!! Makes looking out the windows infinitely easier
oh hey the street fighter guy is here
No need, it will get a VR support later this year. Just buy a Oculus Quest 2 you are all set.
@@dayelu6028 hmm spend hundreds of dollars for a VR headset with low resolution and potential eye damage, or buy a cheap IR tracker...
@@MichaelS-vy1ku Been flying xplane in VR and it's super hard to go back to monitor again. Everything's way more difficult and unnatural. Plus being able to use your hands to control all knobs and whatnot adds immersion.
Lol jmcrofts what u doing here. I just saw a dbzf vid from u lol
My brain hurts after watching him talk about plane settings and moving stuff and pressing buttons 😅😂
There's a flow to it and it's fairly logical once you've done it for a while.
its muscle memory like learning words for a test if you do it everyweek day oor whenever he works its muscle memory he might have that with a routine you have
Seen you tubers land this plane a piece of cake.. I guess y’all can have a new career started
@@juliangriffiths9583 True. I can touch many of the flight deck switches from muscle memory. The seatbelt sign is the one I probably find the most easily.
@@Fitness4ever460 I'm not even a pilot or anything and I can memorise it too. It's not that hard once you get used to it and familiarise yourself with it.
Somebody get this man a PMDG version of an aircraft when it comes out. Also as mentioned Track IR/VR and rudder pedals.
PMDG with this sim with with VR. Slideshow may be smooth 2 years from now with new hardware and 1gbt internet. Most of the scenery is streamed unless you are going to cache Terabyes of data.
@Necramonium what trackir profile do you use? I have it but keep disabling it as i get really distracted as it is really jumpy and whenever I look down to much the camera goes crazy.
@Cameron Putt No clue in what country you live, gigabit in the UK is fairly uncommon, in rural areas like me impossible without thousands of pounds worth of fibre to be layed.
@Cameron Putt 100mbps, in a 23k population city as well as in the country's capital city. no faster and i sometimes hate it. though my isp bugged out one day and i had well over 380mbps
@Cameron Putt trust me a gig is very uncommon in this part of the world
I'd love to see him play this on a top-end PC with a full cockpit setup
He will have to use X-Plane Vulcan multi monitor home cockpit. FS2020 performance is a long way from that.
I’d love to see him fly a full motion 787 home cockpit on Msfs.
This guy is fantastic! He needs to do more. Very calming and feels very natural. He can be my pilot any day.
I love this! Real pilot, a bit grouchy about the simulator. Exactly what I've been wanting to see. All of the other reviews are gamers - I don't really care about their opinions, I wanted to hear from a real pilot who isn't really into sims and this delivered 100 percent.
9:14 "Ugh, I always do that."
Me: So I guess he always switches to 3rd person view in the air when he is flying a real plane?
right? maybe he plays earlier versions...
Ikr hes a robot
Yeah, you're right. Everyone does that.. have you never seen?
Argenis i think third person is for the beta testers
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Nick will be back around again following the release of the PMDG 737! Hopefully I have more flight sim hardware by then to make his experience a lot better! 😁 Also, MFS giveaway at 20K, that’s my present and promise to you 🎁 Disclaimer - OBS wasn’t recording properly hence the stuttering
AviatorDan Ooh yay!
Sounds good
don't use obs to record,the fps got problem
SunnySzeto I have an elgato, that has sound problems tho lol
subscribed for that reason alone!
This is so interesting watching an actual pilot talk through the process.
Love how vocal he is about what he's doing. Makes things very clear
11:08 "No, go around" LOL you could tell he wasn't feeling that approach and the pilot in him wanted to turn around.
You can always go around :)
@@amberlewis012 dont wait until youre sideways. Sliding on the ground
15 more fps and he wouldn’t have messed up his landing with the 87
the problem is the trim, has nothing to do with the real acft
Enderson Rafael whoosh
No, it has to do with the Microsoft flight model of the 727 making it easier to fly for non-pilot sim-pilots, but making it behave differently than the real world aircraft that this experienced pilot expects. It has a LOT to do with the fact that the flight model does not correctly deal with induced drag that should have rapidly slowed the aircraft on flaring over the runway. One thing a lot of "gamers" confuse is display frame rates as opposed to "re-calculation" rates. This means the computer is calculating the actions of the aircraft at a much higher rate than the graphics are being displayed. Never the less, our eyes and brain interpret as low as 12 FPS as smooth movement. Every movie you ever watched in the theater (with the exception of a couple of experimental movies) you watched at 24 FPS. Our brains "extrapolate" movement at 1/10th second intervals or about 10 FPS. Only rare individuals can see the difference beyond 30 FPS and MSFS usually runs at 30 to 60 FPS even on the most limited systems.
3DPDK But....he does have awful fps which you notice throughout the entire play through
3DPDK I partly agree. But our brain does not work in frames per second, it has more to do with the relation between frames. The phi effect for instance : you could see something at 20fps running smooth and another thing at 20fps not smooth at all. In theaters, it’s 48 half frames per second, simplified in « 24 frames per second » so people understand better.
soo cool! feeling like a kid sitting next to him in the cockpit.
So.. ever seen a grown man naked?
@@kano2444 You need help.
@@jackynetic ye, probably... hey! Airplane the movie is in netflix now! Its a classic, you should see it!
@@jackynetic you ever been to a Turkish prison?
@@austinearley2276 is Turkish prisons bad?
The flight model for heavy jets are kind of broken right now. The developers are working on it.
yo vivaldi, any new works coming?
good to know!
Is it just me or are they impossible to land?
FJBZ3 I’ve put 20 hours in so far, have had no problems landing the heavy jets
Gavyn Malagarie But smoothly?
It's a freakin' default aircraft.
Wait until Quality Wings and PMDG brings out proper aircrafts and bring him back in.
Also Chase Plane and TrackIR will help, when that is available for FS2020.
No, it’s a Cessna
"HELLO GUYS" i thought for sure my speakers exploded
RUclipsrs don’t understand the concept of peaking
God finally, an actual pilot who knows what he's doing, reacts to this. Took me a long time to find a real one, there's a lot of fake crap out there.
Yeah. Been playing the game and checking the steam review page and its all red.
tell me about it ive been trying to watch a real pilot reactions or thoughts. Im not familiar with all the guages and such and trying to learn the cessna atm.
WiredEmosh probably cause of the shitty installer games grate but the game I’d literally take img people 12h to install
Yeah... I was the first real 787 pilot I know to fly it (and I agree with Nick, the default is frustrating, as we expected), I was even having to do reviews on someone else preview, because most of us were left out of the alphas and betas. I'm glad enough they got the C152 and 172 really nicely done, though.
Lol there’s a lot of real life flight simulator pilot experts rofl
Dude, that landing was so satisfying
What do you expect? Hes done this his whole life
@@ThunderBlastvideo yup I know, im just saying it's satisfying
@@ThunderBlastvideo can you not be that kind of a guy,geeshhhh always dem negativity ~
-"graphics are really good"
-"oh yeah? Now what about the graphics tho?"
Professional pilot: we’re gonna make sure everything is green now, get the RPM up
Me: Cowabunga, dude
you know this man is good when with an absolute change of interface he still land the plane with absolutely no issue.
Yeah he's a pilot that's what they do
This game would be killer with a sim yoke, foot pedals, and VR compatibility.
A V.R. interface would solve the visual restrictions Capt Nick is speaking of ... the ability to look over your shoulder "naturally". The closest I've ever come to it is setting up three monitors, but unless the monitors are identical the misalignment becomes more of a nuisance than anything else, and it's still at a reduced scale. Lets hope the developers put in the effort to include this. V.R. also adds depth perception that you don't get from a flat screen. It can make a big difference in especially when landing if you can tell how far away the runway is. The mock-up cockpit would be nice but you've got to have the room for it. I live on a boat so I'll be happy just with V.R.
3DPDK VR is coming in the next few months. Going to come out for Windows MR first when the HP headset launches.
This is not a game!
Pai prematuro seems like a game to me. Xbox Achievements, missions, stats, can be played with a controller. May be more on the realistic side but something that can be played for fun is very much a game.
there’s really no point in arguing whether it’s a game or not
If you find it fun, it’s a game
If you use it for practice and simulation 100% , it’s not
Up to you
Sounds like he needs to experience some VR flying :)
Absolutely! That video will come in the future!
Earth is flat and stationary. The fact that planes fly straight and level proves we live on a level plane. The truth is simple. Lies are complex. Education is indoctrination.
@@awkwardlycast5801 bruh ever heard of something called gravity? it's a concept that has been around for a while now
@@sick_as_frick I'm a master in aerospace engineering and private pilot. Joke is on you, you brainwashed buffoon.
@@awkwardlycast5801 totally true. Why would a stranger on the internet lie?
I feel like I am the co-pilot and he's the one talking to me.
That would be 'first officer' in the 21st century :-)
Me too. I just kept saying “you have the controls” throughout the whole thing
"You can hear the Air Traffic Control talking there, we're just going to ignore him for the time being, it's not relevant for what we're doing here.. We're just trying out this flight simulator." A pilot's responsibility to the end. Even in a "game". So great 😄
I haven’t seen anyone else land lol, like seriously you can tell he’s a good pilot.
seeing the pilot bouncing on the runway and doing a go around put a smile on my face and made me think... im not doing too badly :P
To be fair, this guy did say he hasn't tried a flight sim before :)
To be fair if he had a bad landing in his life he wouldnt be alive now
Thats because FS2020 is as realistic as call of duty
@@mrvelic8523 haha true
@@mikeyp5929 lol
- "I think the graphics are great."
The Graphics: "Global Rendering Quality: Low End"
This game is very demanding... you need 32 gb or ram and it crushes low end cards
@@ThunderBlastvideo you can play with 16gb no problem tho
@@ThunderBlastvideo you do NOT need 32gb to play this game. 16 is the baseline.
@@ThunderBlastvideo the minimum amount needed is 8gb, i play with everything on max and i have 16gb
ThunderBlastvideo No, you don’t. Whoever told you you “need” 32 GB of RAM to run this game is lying to you. My 2070S, 8700K, and 16GB of RAM do perfectly fine.
Let him test in VR. That could fix some of his problems he is talking about, before starting.
@@MrPregnant3D *yet* :D
Widescreen could also fix it
@@mr.meeseeks3238 it does a bit. I'm using a super ultra wide and it's very immersive, but you still need to use the mouse or stick to turn your head
You could use TrackIR (or the version that works with a webcam)
I've seen it work with VR through VorpX
I feel like he had to justify to his brain why he didn't respond to air traffic control there lol. Just real pilot things.
In the 80s I had twenty hours flight training in a Piper Tomahawk and when I played MS Flight Simulator I used to say it was easier to land a real plane for the reasons he says, you couldn't look side to side and get the same feeling for things.
11:28
After that, half of the passengers died of a heart attack 😂
I could listen to Nick talking the whole day.
Ger
Same he just talks with a lot of wisdom
Kinda resembles Alex Turner voice.
If you don't believe him with the problem with muscle memory just try to brake your car with your left foot but make sure no one is behind you lol
This.
@@SamuraiHageshi Little boy, we aren't on Twitter here.
Or in front of you to be safe 😂
plus the flight model of those default aircraft are terrible specially on final with full flaps. it so unrealistic and hard to control
I drive with left food on the brakes it's no issue
"Never be the same as looking out the window of a real aircraft." Ooohhhh just you wait for VR support
8:11 I like how he goes on and on saying everything he's going to switch and activate to take off...
Meanwhile I just press A on the controller, pull the stick and I go flying! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’d say that 787 landing was smooth 🧐
AviatorDan Oh yeah definitely!
Yes
Lee’s Aviation definitely
If he wants to come back. Zibo pls.
Hi Dan we’ve flown together in NUK. Brilliant video. The steering in the final approach in FS2020 seems strange to me. The dynamics are not even close to real life but it’s still fun to try
Nick - Very professional, well spoken, informative, and knowledgeable
Me: “Haha plane go brrrr”
Nick - Brainwashed, indoctrinated, and programmed. A glorified taxi driver.
Me - Aerospace Engineer and private pilot supporting the fact the Earth is flat and stationary.
Awkwardly Cast prove to me that the earth is flat
@@bshshsvsshshh7411 Prove to me that you are not an idiot.
@@awkwardlycast5801 If you were a pilot you would see how planes follow the curve without trying, or you could easily prove it wrong on film.
Sage Sapphire just ignore the trolls
"Also I'm not used to an aircraft that doesn't have a control yoke.." Hilarious
he meant aircraft such as Airbus and Embraer that use side sticks or other types of yoke.
not that funny...
@@PedroLarock ikr🤣🤣
@@NanaGlover yeah ahh that’s not funny either
11:07 Even though the landing was a bit ragged, I'm amazed he was even able to fly it as well as he did, considering that he 1) didn't have a yoke or throttle levers; 2) couldn't see the whole instrument panel/controls without constantly working the mouse; and 3) had to click on all the controls instead of actually reaching for them. It just goes to show how much extra headroom an experienced professional pilot has, beyond what is actually necessary to fly the aircraft in normal conditions. Good thing, too, since I would imagine that is the only way they are going to be able to handle things if there is some sort of failure or emergency. Heck, if I had to drive a car with a keyboard, I probably would crash trying to back into my driveway!
This gentleman is a natural teacher and seemed super comfortable on camera. Good job
Next flight pls use a TrackIR and a proper throttle and yoke set, + rudder pedal. Good video, great pilot!
I really hope they add VR support eventually, TrackIR just doesn't do it for me.
Razelluxe I read yesterday that VR should be available by Fall
@@actionjackson8439 Oh damn, really?
I was expecting a much longer wait if it was planned at all.
Good to know, thanks!
@@AbsoluteSkycaptain Yeah the HP Reverb G2 which releases this fall is going to get it first, afterwards, all other VR headsets will receive support in the coming months including oculus, HTC, Valve Index and many more.
I understood the “looking out the window” parts and nothing else
I cannot wait for VR support in this one. Have a hard time enjoying a flight sim without it now lol
Do they have a estimate for when that comes out?
how does VR work with a flight sim. Do u just use the VR controllers or still use a keyboard and yoke?
Purple Planet I got lucky to try it once on X plane 11. At least there you used the 2 controllers and pressed the buttons in the cockpit with them. I think you can use yoke, rudder pedals and keyboard too though, because you can move the location of the camera with the controllers.
@@finnleithomczyk5292 yeah what would be dope is AR/VR. Were essential things like the flight yoke can be seen in ghost form.
You will need a next gen flagship GPU to run it with vr lol. 30fps would make you feel dizzy in VR, and thats the framerate 2080ti can achieve at 4k.....😝
He doesnt have a yoke or any flight controls I'm impressed he did that with wasd
"There's air traffic control, but we will ignore him for the moment, we dont need him for what we are doing"
I want a shirt that says this, lmao
The 787 landings 😂😂😂 I’m dead 😂 I can relate so much. Flying a real plane is often so much easier as professional pilot than sims hahahaa. Love to see that he still abides by his fundamentals even at that level of flying! Very encouraging for me as I work my way up the pilot career ladder!
I think for pros the best value this can provide is your IMC scan practise and flows and checks practise. That’s what I’m hoping for myself. Landings you just gotta practise in the real plane unfortunately 😭😭
This guy needs his own RUclips channel
pls
No he doesn't. He's an indoctrinated, brainwashed buffoon. A glorified taxi driver.
@@awkwardlycast5801 wow...
Having flown a lot with Norwegian on their Dreamliners, I wonder if I've ever been a passenger of his.
To be honest, the fact such a simulator exists is impressive. It opens up an avenue to experience what it's like to fly a plane to anyone who may never have the opportunity to do so.
It's great the way he manages to say quite a lot of things are really not up to scratch in the game and/or setup but still sounds totally reasonable and considerate with it.
Great vid Dan, now I understand why you said this vid was very special in the community post. Can’t wait to see more MFS content from you!
Me too!
Rishi!!
Thanks man!! Hope you’re doing well
AviatorDan I am
Earth is flat and stationary. The fact that planes fly straight and level proves we live on a level plane. The truth is simple. Lies are complex. Education is indoctrination.
If VR support comes out he definitely needs to play this again!
This guy learned from the Doc
This was so much fun to watch !!! Finally someone who has flown the plane is reviewing this ... Thank you
I could watch this guy all day. A natural born presenter who clearly knows and loves his craft.
"You can hear Air Traffic Control talking there. We're just gonna ignore him for the time being. It's not relevant to what we're doing." **
That was awesome. I’m glad I read that part when he over shot the first landing I was like rev her up and go around, then he did. 😅
He’s explanation was incredible great insight.
Imagine this guy playing it once it gets released for VR that would be so amazing
the thing ive observed with vr is the sensitivity of the movement so i think the camera would be really shaky unless you freeze your neck
He seemed quite nervous and unsure to start off with, but as soon as he took off he just became natural. The transfromation was so funny :)
The amount of knowledge that this pilot continuously shared is priceless. Best pilot review for MFS I've seen so far!
Crazy how incredibly smooth he was compared to experienced gamers playing it for the first time.
How is it crazy? It's exactly the way it should be. A person with decades worth of experience should have an advantage in an ultra-realistic sim.
@@Hotobu except that an sim always lacks the feel of g forces and is never 100% accurate
@@kas-lw7xz Was that supposed to be insightful? What's your point?
@@Hotobu "ultra realistic" its not lmao. as he says you can buy much better sims that actually fly like aircrafts in half the money.
@@thebenson999 Oh hey look, it's "Mr. Nitpickey RUclips Commenter Guy!" The guy that picks at strawmen while completely ignoring the context of the conversation.
Please let him experience this with the HP Reverb G2 when it comes out
Please invite your friend again - he is an absolute joy to listen to, I wish him the best.
I’m RAF fly typhoons. Are can’t imagine doing this job flying Dreamliner. The boredom would be excruciating. Flying a double decker bus.
He has honestly made me feel safer about flying , knowing there are people like him in the skies. Amazing 🤘🏻 best video I’ve seen in a long time tbh
I think commercial pilots need like 10 years of experience before they can even set foot in passenger aircraft. Maybe longer.
11:33 every Ryanair pilot
they say its a pretty landing when they crash and die
@@sladanawex2343 Ryanair has never crashed.
@@dianamaioru497 they have crashed, just not fatally.
@@childish8469 Sauce for that?
@@dianamaioru497 ?
Poor captain. You should of had him set up with a honeycomb yoke
xD
should’ve*
yammmit No, ‘should of’ is acceptable too.
Puhi Ropitini It’s not. Look it up. There’s no such thing as “could of,” “should of,” “would of,” etc. They have never been correct even if they sound similar.
@@puhiropitini found the illiterate who thinks his basic grammar mistakes are acceptable. They are not because they're basic. That you tried to defend them is ridiculous. When someone corrects your silly mistakes say thank you and keep it moving, we do it to improve the overall quality of communication in the future with one less mistake being made by someone like you in the future
That first circuit and landing was so so smooth.
This guy is awesome! Get him some pedal’s and let him go again. Pilots are next level thinkers. Loving the play by play.
I like how he does his little checklist before flying even though it's not a real plane
After all this side-stick practice, he's ready for an Airbus.
It still amazes me how pilots fly this simulator and admire it. yet there are so many people bashing the sim in favor of either prepar3d or xplane11 calling msfs2020 a "arcade game"
There bashing it because either their pc can’t run it properly or they can’t afford it
Sam Alex It does have its problems which can affect the initial download, and the ifr at the moment for larger aircraft is eh.
But this game is 3 days old lol people beed to cut it some slack and appreciate what it has accomplished lol
A lot of the stuff he talks about would be solved with a VR headset.
Track Ir would be better
@@jfgh383 better than vr? Why?
@@AlbertoFormica When it comes to flying games it's better. You don't have to turn yourself so much and the quality of the graphics doesn't drop so much
Its coming out in the fall for msfs
Keep in mind VR sucks for youtube, instructor/student training, and it can be hard to twist frequencies with controllers when using Pilotedge ATC online. Hope your girlfriend doesn't move out the furniture when you are making funny noises and goofy gyrations while inside headset. LOL
Would have been cool to see an updated video of this with the same pilot, only this time using the HP Reverb G2. After testing out VR on this sim I’m absolutely stunned of how realistic and real to life it feels. Flying in 2D can’t compare imo.
I love how these games translate basically perfectly for people like him. Really cool to see
Great video Dan nice to see the opinion of a real world pilot
Thanks so much!
The cuts are annoying. Would've loved to watch the whole video instead.
Yes true, but does he live stream? No time? Uncut?
The experience he’s having with landing is a common one. Landing a real aircraft is SO MUCH EASIER than a flight sim. For some reason, everything just feels “bigger” and “slower” in reality. Not only that but you have full control (I don’t know how else to explain it), you can look around naturally, you can sense every motion and that tendency to over rotate and float for days just doesn’t happen in real life. Flying is a LOT easier than flight simulator haha. The only aspect that’s trickier is radio communication. Radio communication is mandatory, specific and highly specialized. That’s the only aspect of flying I’ve found to be more difficult in real life...that and MAYBE steep turns. If you aren’t comfortable holding 2 G’s for an extended period of time, steep turns can get a little tricky.
From my own limited experience, you're right in many regards. Real aircraft give so much more feedback, which is simply not available in a simulation like this with you comfortably sat in your office chair at home. The Cessna 152 Aerobat feels appropriately "snappy" in its handling which is what I did the majority of my flight hours in, even if that was sadly limited. I always preferred flying the 172 Skyhawk though on the couple of occasions I managed to get in one, it had just that little extra bit of heft to it meaning it was much more stable than the 152.
Drunken_Jedi
I’m a piper guy, myself. I’ve spent some time in the 172 but the Cherokee variants are my “comfort zone”. I think it’s mostly because I spent most of my training time in a warrior or a Grumman AA1A. The funniest memory I have in a 172...my usual warrior was in the hangar for something or other so we took up the 172 for some “turns around a point” and all that fun stuff. I was so used to the low wing piper’s ground effect on landing (and if we’re being honest, still a pretty low hour pilot, period) that I came really, REALLY close to planting the 172 like a doofus. I mean, *milliseconds* later we would’ve been PIOing down the runway with everyone on the field pointing and laughing...
manifestgtr Lol yeah I can imagine it would handle quite differently. I’ve never flown a low wing config so can’t really speak for it. Missing flying a lot these days would love to hop back in the Cessna again.
@@timmy3822 or you can spend 500k on a full motion setup which have items that directly come from a real; aircraft lol
Please invite this guy back when VR is ready and the aircraft updated.
That would be an amazing video, especially if he has never experienced VR.
He doesn’t use any verbal pauses, I doubt he’s a real pilot for that reason. “Ladies and ahhhhhh gentlemen ahhhhh….”