World Devastators would have literally solved pollution. There are several planets in Star Wars that are 100% covered in junk and toxic chemicals. Send a Devastator with a big recycling symbol and a smiley face painted on it and you have a clean planet. Oh, and a spare navy as a by-product, just in case anyone wanted one.
They should send them to that polluted planet the Invids raided in I, Jedi. Just have them eat all of KDY's pollution out of the atmosphere, and a KDY facility or two.Then use the materials to make air filters!
Given the seemingly simple nature of the AI systems onboard a World Devastator this isn’t a far fetched solution to terraforming planets or even demolition/renovation of core worlds like Coruscant. I would love to see one make an appearance as an easter egg somewhere in the background of a shot, and your idea would be perfect for it.
The World Devastator REAL problem was production of hypermnatter and sub-nuclear knots. (whatever is this, sounds like strings) But big enough would be a NEW Death Star...
@Eric Cartman It's some of the promotional videos for SW: The Old Republic video game, especially this one (which is the intro video): ruclips.net/video/QyYbvVAtlWk/видео.html
@@tTaseric it doesn't it just takes more time as they have to use the external bays instead of internal....... but the smaller devastators could be build in the internals any way. remember that most world devastators get their size from upgrading themselves and consuming resources
Star Forge was fueled by the Dark Side and sun. The Infinite Engine was Rakatan tech, and was similar in nature to the World Devastators in being self propagating and upgrading. The Star Forge copied dozens of Interdictor Cruisers, and tens of thousands of modern (for the -4kBBY Old Republic) Sith Interceptors, plus millions of war droids, from the scratch once loaded into the Forge. So it was only limited by time and material, not technological level, since Rakatan tech was relatively basic while being force powered for it's high effectiveness. All the ingredients exist for it to happen assuming a sufficiently powerful Sith like Palpatine was in command of the station to "bring it to heel" so to speak since if I remember correctly Malak was too weak and let it consume him as he fed on it, versus Reven who was able to direct it solely for his goals, which is why you can (still?) make your Sith (or light?) Robes.
Imperial Whovian the Star Forge at its heart had multiple Infinite Engines and could turn any matter into something else on the molecular level. That's how Star Matter over Lehon produced hundreds of Interdictor class Cruisers for Revan and Malak's Sith Empire. I don't know how, but I'm sure Palpatine or his Imperial Archaeology crews discovered an Infinite Engine and reverse engineered the ancient tech and mad it their own. It makes so much sense on a galactic and historical scale. Even 25,000 years after their Infinite Empire collapsed, the Rakata still influence the future. I really want to see a full scale war between the Infinite Empire and the Yuuzhan Vong. An addition to the conflict is that the Rakata have regular hyperdrives now. This little hindrance prevented the Infinite Empire from truly conquering the stars all those years ago. But now they are unrestricted by the Force and can wreak havoc anywhere 😎
ummmm.......I think i just found a new campaign idea for my D&D group when we play Star Wars Saga Edition next. A World Devastator going rogue building a fleet and threatening the Star Wars UNIVERSE Yes i see it now
Nikolas Orozco most likely no, unless the star forge was modular. If it was, that’s a target. So most likely, no, and if they could, it would be lower quality.
Arthur Morgan its over the top nature is what made it Star Wars: multiple superweapons, Dyson Spheres, Ancient super advanced civilizations, trans dimensional entities, lovecraftian horrors like Abeloth, the threat of AI (HK-01/IG-88A), the ever-increasing Force Potential of beings like the Sith and the Jedi, while lore surrounded conflicts were waged left and right for millennia ! All of this was what made the Expanded Universe fill infinite and adventurous and dangerous at the same time. But what is an adventure with thrills and chills ? Oh, yeah that is exactly what Disney believes in. So far, the only content they've made that could be worthy of Legends is Lord Momin and his Force Time Travel and that scientist named Cylo that had cyborg Force Users that really just had an advanced connection to the technology in their reach. Those things, I liked. And guess what, they could all honestly fit in Legends ! People say the Legends Rebellion era is too stuffed but honestly their is a 24 year gap between Endor and a shit ton of more stories could be implemented into those decades. The only consumer content I remember that actually explored the time between RotS and ANH was Star Wars Galaxies (a legendary game). But besides that, I'm not sure. And before Disney Thanos'd the entire Expanded Universe I was firstly confused on why they didn't just explore the New Sith Wars era ! It is virtually empty of solid animated content and has over 380 years of history missing in the 1000 year on and off war between the dark lords and Jedi and Republic. I'll never know what truly gave their board of directors the idiotic idea of throwing away 100,000 years of lore and marketing material but I pray no other company ever does something like that. I don't get pissed because the old canon is now Legends, I get pissed because Lucasfilm and old business partners like Dark Horse and Bioware can't create Expanded Universe content !!! Like I don't know why they can't just do what Marvel does with their multiple realities and universes !? I'm done ranting, I've taken up too much of your day as it is. Peace fellow lore nerd...
@TomeOfBattle it hurts my heart deeply to envision the emotions of the multitude of Legends authors and graphic designers. Imagine working months on a passionate novel game only for in several years its basically viewed as glorified fan fic for a ridiculous universe full of bad content. I'd be devastated. How in hell did Disney explain this vast change to all those people that had put actual chunks of their lives and minds into making Star Wars what it "was" ? I woe the day when SWTOR dies. It is all that I have left that actively expands and respects Legends...
@@blackshogun272 Replied to my old, and defunct account there. But yeah, Legends had a lot of good stuff in it and Di$ney were idiots to piss off the fans by decanonizing it.
Yes and no. They weren't capable of self replicating like skynet was, they could only self upgrade. Skynet both upgraded and replicated as every terminator, facility, and general computer was "skynet", in reality only 1 needed to survive to start the cycle over again. A world devastator is just itself, producing units, those units are not capable of restarting the cycle if its destroyed. Both however are massively handicapped by plot armour. Skynet would realistically have won, by making nodes in places people simply can't reach (under sea, under ground, in space, etc), and the world devastators would have been best used by 1st deploying them in unoccupied systems, letting them build insane fleets before anyone even knew they existed, and each one having its own unique shutdown code, no master code. It's always the same in sci-fi when dealing with AI, they always have to handicap it, by saying it shall only exist were people can get to it, or it won't just build more units than people have bullets, or it'll not design something that's nigh unkillable.
@@cgi2002 Well you have to realize that Skynet was, according to T3, a server cluster that operated at 60 teraflops a second... which was mind-blazingly fast back then, but today it's kinda slow by comparison. That's like... borderline capable of basic A.I. work. So it's actually fairly understandable that it didn't think of those things.
Although it’s not likely, unfortunately, I would love to see the First Order use these or something like them in future in media. It could be a logical and interesting explanation as to how they amassed such a large army.
Can we get the Arc Hammer SSD video you proposed awhile back? People won’t vote for it because they don’t really know about it, hence the need to make the video to show them this underrated beauty of a ship.
I think this might sound crazy, but I think the World Devastators should've come back in the sequels, because they fit well with the First Order's seemingly nomadic doctrine of strip mining whatever they find for resources. It would've been cool to, say, see the resistance go to Crait only to find the World Devastators are already there and are eating it up and cranking out walkers and fighters.
we already had something like that - the Star Forge. while it wasnt mobile, it was basically World Devastator big as a Death Star that fed on matter and energy to create whole fleets, weapons or droids armies.
They are by definition, the Von Neumann Ships of Star Wars. I even bet, that they could go as big as entire moons and there would be millions of that said ship in just a few years. Thus making them the most efficient superweapon/ship that ever existed in all of Star Wars. I would choose the World Devastator than any SW superweapon, as it is the most efficient all of them.
Yeah, it's my favorite piece of technology in SW and the concept totally doesn't deserve enough attention. Any halfway-competent industrialist should be able to figure out the matter-conversion tech involved, build a small one, and, like Eck said, just set it loose in a forgotten asteroid belt for a while. Places like Corellia, Kuat, Rendili should be able to operate these things, strip mining uninhabitated systems to crank of warships, with none of the "Dark Side alchemy" complications of something like the Star Forge.
Honest to God, why haven't they make a show about the Empire yet? I'd binge the living hecc out of that show, especially if they add in some of these new weapons...
@@salemmostafa3661 I mean, think about it--a lot of kids are drawn to Darth Vader and the Empire, because they just have the coolest stuff. Plus, since the Empire seems, in some cases, a lot more competent than the Rebels, it would be interesting if they had a show that explored the more human side of the Empire, perhaps even showing the positive sides of having an airtight galactic government and its effect on everyday life in the galaxy. Imagine if they made a show about a pair of stormtroopers with the Imperial Exploration Division, who get shipped around the galaxy all the time and get to see all these new parts of the galaxy we haven't seen yet...
@@drakeredwingofficial as long as Will get cool space battles I will be okay with it 😅 jk this seems like a cool idea but again Disney will never Listen to the fans and that's coming from someone who likes star wars rebels and the sequel trilogy
@@danielpucher3367 WEG had supplements for all the major early releases of EU in the 90s: Thrawn Trilogy, Jedi Academy Trilogy, Dark Empire, Tales of the Jedi, Truce of Bakura... They are cool books, and very useful both for reading lore and for playing rpgs or miniature wargames.
Speaking of which, someone has requested “Stargate Replicators vs Unified Star Wars Galaxy” hundreds of times now. #AskEck , is there a reason this hasn’t been done yet, despite the frequency of the request? Lack of personal/popular interest? Lack of knowledge? Lack of time to research effectively? Unfeasible scale?
@@quantummaniac5 The Flood scared one of the Forerunners' best ai that was meant to destroy the Flood, it turned on its creators and was one of the reasons for their downfall. At least I think that's what happened.
Does anyone in charge of Star Wars have any forthought to how technology would impact the setting? I mean holy shit, why are there not giant 3D printers printing out starships if these World Devastators can do it? Why aren't there Constructor Drone swarms? Why is this concept not taken apart into different individual components that are automated but not Artificially Intelligent? Program a drone swarm to self propagate and when it no longer detects matter in their surroundings, they eat themselves instead, feeding all material to a hive ship that functions as a shipyard crafting droids, drones, weapons, and ships. It's not intelligent, it's just automated. It sorts, it allocates resources, and it produces from blueprints. Send one missile loaded with constructor drones at a planet and they go to work. This doesn't even require nanotech as seen in the typical Grey Goo concept, just drones of the same nature we typically see. They don't even have to be small, they could be normal sized drones that swarm around lazing resources, storing them, then returning to the hive or drop off points. It's also ridiculous there aren't more cyborgs and why what few cyborgs we do see look janky as hell.
Because that would be far too easy. It's like joining a game but your character somehow is maxed out and also has admin commands to further increase how OP your character is. That would end everything easily
That's how they make ships and do large scale production. How do you think they pumped out tens of thousands of ships in like 20 years with only a few major manufacturing hubs like Kuat? Their production capabilities in Star Wars is pretty high.
Well having superweapons for threat you knew was coming but they don't is just overkill. But ok to live as slaves to all subjugating empire cause security.
I think the NR's policy would see something like the World Devastator as a threat too big for the galaxy to function properly around, and their destruction of the World Devastator was a good idea, because they actively avoided centralizing their power too much for fear of becoming a new Empire. Same reason they got rid of the Sun Crusher: if one person with a vendetta gets ahold of one, "good guy" or not, millions if not billions or trillions of beings will die.
@@nickmalachai2227 we did figure out everything. That is just a myth. And the armour is replicateable the inventor of the sun crusher rebouilt a cathedral out of it after she was responsible for it's destruction.
Only slightly worse that they don't need to target inhabited worlds, set a few loose on an asteroid belt while running attacks by your fighters and capital ships to help it adapt to combat and you could have an unstoppable warfleet.
All these comments making comparisons, but no one mentions the OG version: Fred Saberhagan's Berserkers. Self-replicating automated warships that continually improve themselves to deal with the advancements of their enemy, with the goal of wiping out all life.
Just a request: what would happen if Palpatine did start conquering other galaxies? What if he already started spreading his Seeds? And how would the Milky Way react/respond & such?
Eck you are by far my favorite Star Wars channel. I would like to see some videos detailing the history and lore behind the Fel Empire. Keep up the good work.
Ah my favorite super weapon. I would love to have one of these. With a driod programming like R2D2, hollow be his name, or C3P0. Should keep it in line...
These things kind of remind of me of the armored command units from Supreme Commander. While manned, if you threw one of them on a planet, they could build factories, defences, and some very large combat units while harvesting and reclaiming metals and minerals. In a short while, you could have an army large enough to take over a planet.
#askeck With the fleet mostly manned by battle droids why did the Separatists not limit breathable atmospheres to certain areas of their ships? Surely this would make boarding actions by both clones and Jedi much more difficult.
You forgot that the World Devastators weakness was it's exposed shield generator on top and the repulsor legs once the generator got destroyed. Veteran of Rogue Squadron 3D lol
But in reality world devastators would probably have an extremely high sheild capacity along with their tough armor, would probably take dreadnaught class vessels to battle them in a straight firefight with any chance if success
This is the doomsday weapon that dooms all doomsday weapons. along with checkmating the universe. on the Imperial Overpowered Scale (IOS (Which has nothing to do with a phone.)), this rates about an ∞ to the ∞th power ∞ to the ∞th power times. On the "How badly should I give up" scale, it rates an astounding "Ripping the paper to shreds"
Legends say that R2D2 is the bullet that Chuck Norris fired from his gun when he fired his first actual shot, which landed upon the star wars universe.
They should have just used the world devastators in the rise of skywalker as palpatine's main sith fleet super weapons instead of the xyston class star destroyers
they could've used world devastators to defeat the Vong. If only the new republic weren't so scared. The borg unlike those super weapons had their own will, they were comprised of millions of mind. They could've also reprogrammed the machines to build cities and defend systems on their own, help civilians in case of a surprise attack.
When Qui Xux came up with the World Devastators, she intended for them to be used to harvest asteroids and barren worlds to produce machinery to help people. Too bad she was working for Tarkin at the time.
Lucrehulk-Class Battleship Vs Nebula Class Star Destroyer -Battleship variant of the Lucrehulk (Battle Of Coruscant) (with a full complement of Droid StarFighters and Weapnary)
I love how the peak of Dark Empire technology could only achieve what the Abominor were already capable of. It just goes to show how overpowered of a species those metal monstrosities really are.
Replicators always lose due to implanted "plot armor weakness" subroutines:D I know, I know... but likewise I'll never give up pointing it out. Stargate had thrown dozens of concepts and potential stories into the trash. Replicators was one of the worst examples of wasted potential. How can we put them against anything if theoretically they can do almost anything, but in the show they'd do nothingat all most of the time? Star Wars stomps simply because Stargate authors never cared enough for their own creations. And I'm never forgetting how they axed Azurans.
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 1990's tech with a bit of plot armor defeated replicators. Star Wars has unlimited supply of plot armor. Result: replicators lose. Reason: don't overthink a joke;)
I'm building world devastator out of Legos right now. I'm waiting on some bricklink orders, so it's only the frame with some of the interior details, but it'll be about the size of the ucs star destroyer, with lights and a couple motorized bits
Great video man. I have a question if they had used world devastators during the yuuzhan vong war how useful would have been like in the sense that would they have won the war faster with less casualties maybe even had stop the vong right at the edge of the galaxy. I mean if the world devastators are that powerful then they could have been very useful plus am I right in thinking that the yuuzhan vong hated droids and anything A.I so with that they would have focused their efforts more on devastators leaving them open to counter attack or flaking. I'm not fully in the know about all the star wars lore which is why I love watching these videos but I thought that it would make a interesting thought. Anyway thanks for the upload and look forward to seeing future video's
#askEck So while we're on world devastators I actually thought of something interesting in my opinion, Can you do a versus of: World devastator vs The vong world ship?
What was playing in the background is that a game or a movie either way it was badass and I want to see more also awesome awesome video keep up the good work.
If Palpatine’s goal was subjugation of the universe with the world devastators, wouldn’t that basically destroy the Force if they wiped out most of the life?
Joe Clerkin they could be controlled by him like the clones with a master code input plus they couldn't attack Imperial workers. Palpatine wouldn't be stupid enough to conquer another galaxy and forget his literal navies were eating his Empire !!! They can be directed but if an entire sector or system is of no use to him, then the chunky evil R2's about to eat guuuud 🤣
Yeah, they mention this In I, Jedi, how Exar Kun is like a predator overgrazing his prey, as the force comes from life, and when he killed gantoris and when Kyp blew up Caridia, he diminished his power.
Kingsnake Command I love how Valkorian was a direct opposite to this. Man fed off the death of billions in his wars just to fuel his prolonged life and spirit 😂
8:06 these little bits just solidify my belief that any faction in Star Wars with the word ‘republic’ in it is corrupt, lazy, self-serving, indecisive, and foolish.
Godzilla Earth. G-Earth destroyed a moon-sized asteroid in a single shot when it wasn't fully grown (or rather, before it reached the 300-meter height we see in the anime). Even assuming it required a charging period to do so, the moon is far bigger than a CSO carrier. Whilst the carrier is powerful, and probably could've taken down Reach's entire defence grid on its own, G-Earth tanked basically every nuke America had on hand when it was young and came out unscathed. It can swim in the magma of the earth, crack continental plates, and is potentially smarter than humans.
Problem is Godzilla is grounded on whatever planet its on. Has no armor besides scales and no shielding; while its only "Capital Ship Killer" is a nuclear breath attack probably up to a kilometer away max range. Whereas the CSO is a inter systemic super ship wielding a shield that unless a nuke got inside, was virtually immune to nuclear attacks. Plus, the energy projectors it has glass whole cities in mere minutes. Soooooo, yeah.
#AskEck Is there any in legends explanation as to why neither or the imperial remnant or the remaining warlord factions tried to make use of their own, or reactivate, any of the world devastators?
I believe all of them were sent on the initial Mon Cala mission, the New Republic actually was using one to rebuild their forces in one of the early pages of Dark Empire 2, but they scuttled them all because of the fear they represented.
Actually that would make a lot of sense for how they were able to produce their war machines. A few of those controlled by the Supremacy as their central hub, would make perfect sense.
This is really cool because when I was young I played Star Wars Rogue Squadron on my N64 and the last mission in the game was where you had to destroy these world devourers. The mission itself was called “Battle of Calamari” . I just thought I was interesting how these two link and that this weapon is so old in the expanded universe lore.
World Devastators made a sorta backdoor appearance in Canon too...they were the model used for the mining rigs that were destroying Lothal in Rebels. Much smaller, crewed, and without the production capacity, but still a World Devastator model, and acting much like one by stripmining the surface of Lothal at a rather horrifying rate.
Grey goo, Galactus, Galvatron, and world devastators. I don't know about the flood, but three of those scare me in a literary sense, while the first terrifies me more than I can explain.
The entire time you were talking about these World Devastators reminded me of the Horus Battle Platforms from Horizon Zero Dawn. Barring the kill switch, of course, which the battle platforms didn't have, and the somewhat smaller scale.
I remember the world devastaters being a thing in the N64 star wars game star wars rouge squadron. There was a mission where you had to destroy one as it was taking material from the planet.
This reminds me of “project Zero Dawn” mainly because if you give any mechanical force self automation and the means to self replicate you basically sign the death warrant of the entire galaxy or an entire planet 🌎.
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Engineering yes. Design questionable.
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World Devastators would have literally solved pollution. There are several planets in Star Wars that are 100% covered in junk and toxic chemicals. Send a Devastator with a big recycling symbol and a smiley face painted on it and you have a clean planet. Oh, and a spare navy as a by-product, just in case anyone wanted one.
They should send them to that polluted planet the Invids raided in I, Jedi. Just have them eat all of KDY's pollution out of the atmosphere, and a KDY facility or two.Then use the materials to make air filters!
Given the seemingly simple nature of the AI systems onboard a World Devastator this isn’t a far fetched solution to terraforming planets or even demolition/renovation of core worlds like Coruscant. I would love to see one make an appearance as an easter egg somewhere in the background of a shot, and your idea would be perfect for it.
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The World Devastator REAL problem was production of hypermnatter and sub-nuclear knots. (whatever is this, sounds like strings)
But big enough would be a NEW Death Star...
@Eric Cartman It's some of the promotional videos for SW: The Old Republic video game, especially this one (which is the intro video): ruclips.net/video/QyYbvVAtlWk/видео.html
Imagine using the Star Forge to mass produce World Devastators
I doubt the Star Forge is able to build them, since it probably has an upper limit to what it can produce.
@@tTaseric it doesn't it just takes more time as they have to use the external bays instead of internal....... but the smaller devastators could be build in the internals any way. remember that most world devastators get their size from upgrading themselves and consuming resources
I wonder if the star forge could build them then pump additional energy into them to let them build themselves up.
Star Forge was fueled by the Dark Side and sun. The Infinite Engine was Rakatan tech, and was similar in nature to the World Devastators in being self propagating and upgrading. The Star Forge copied dozens of Interdictor Cruisers, and tens of thousands of modern (for the -4kBBY Old Republic) Sith Interceptors, plus millions of war droids, from the scratch once loaded into the Forge. So it was only limited by time and material, not technological level, since Rakatan tech was relatively basic while being force powered for it's high effectiveness. All the ingredients exist for it to happen assuming a sufficiently powerful Sith like Palpatine was in command of the station to "bring it to heel" so to speak since if I remember correctly Malak was too weak and let it consume him as he fed on it, versus Reven who was able to direct it solely for his goals, which is why you can (still?) make your Sith (or light?) Robes.
Imperial Whovian the Star Forge at its heart had multiple Infinite Engines and could turn any matter into something else on the molecular level. That's how Star Matter over Lehon produced hundreds of Interdictor class Cruisers for Revan and Malak's Sith Empire. I don't know how, but I'm sure Palpatine or his Imperial Archaeology crews discovered an Infinite Engine and reverse engineered the ancient tech and mad it their own. It makes so much sense on a galactic and historical scale. Even 25,000 years after their Infinite Empire collapsed, the Rakata still influence the future. I really want to see a full scale war between the Infinite Empire and the Yuuzhan Vong. An addition to the conflict is that the Rakata have regular hyperdrives now. This little hindrance prevented the Infinite Empire from truly conquering the stars all those years ago. But now they are unrestricted by the Force and can wreak havoc anywhere 😎
*You made fun of Gonk droids before now look at it now* ...
The High Ground the Gonk Droid sound echoes for miles now
The *G I G A G O N K*
@@sup209 have you been watching xpgamers Sunday Livestreams? LOTS of Gonk Droid jokes flying around there- don't really remember how it got started
The Gonk thonk
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ummmm.......I think i just found a new campaign idea for my D&D group when we play Star Wars Saga Edition next.
A World Devastator going rogue building a fleet and threatening the Star Wars UNIVERSE
Yes i see it now
@The Trolling master It wouldn't be the first time its happened
@@StarKnight619 I can tell you are a great DM already
I smell...
M o n e y
This sounds glorious! You should really do it!
A ONE *World Devastator* in let's say in dust cloud nebula would build infinite fleet...given time.
Star Forge: I can create an empire by using the energy of a star
World Devastator: Hold my resources
Comet5551 I mean, technically the Star Forge can use the Star to make most probably SEVERAL World Devastators, but still a fun joke.
What the star forge does is more advanced
Just imagine IG 88 uploading his memory core into a World devastator
@@leelambert1559 Could the world devastators do the same?
Nikolas Orozco most likely no, unless the star forge was modular. If it was, that’s a target. So most likely, no, and if they could, it would be lower quality.
Legends is so damn cool. It was just on another level entirely
Arthur Morgan its over the top nature is what made it Star Wars: multiple superweapons, Dyson Spheres, Ancient super advanced civilizations, trans dimensional entities, lovecraftian horrors like Abeloth, the threat of AI (HK-01/IG-88A), the ever-increasing Force Potential of beings like the Sith and the Jedi, while lore surrounded conflicts were waged left and right for millennia ! All of this was what made the Expanded Universe fill infinite and adventurous and dangerous at the same time. But what is an adventure with thrills and chills ? Oh, yeah that is exactly what Disney believes in. So far, the only content they've made that could be worthy of Legends is Lord Momin and his Force Time Travel and that scientist named Cylo that had cyborg Force Users that really just had an advanced connection to the technology in their reach. Those things, I liked. And guess what, they could all honestly fit in Legends ! People say the Legends Rebellion era is too stuffed but honestly their is a 24 year gap between Endor and a shit ton of more stories could be implemented into those decades. The only consumer content I remember that actually explored the time between RotS and ANH was Star Wars Galaxies (a legendary game). But besides that, I'm not sure. And before Disney Thanos'd the entire Expanded Universe I was firstly confused on why they didn't just explore the New Sith Wars era ! It is virtually empty of solid animated content and has over 380 years of history missing in the 1000 year on and off war between the dark lords and Jedi and Republic. I'll never know what truly gave their board of directors the idiotic idea of throwing away 100,000 years of lore and marketing material but I pray no other company ever does something like that. I don't get pissed because the old canon is now Legends, I get pissed because Lucasfilm and old business partners like Dark Horse and Bioware can't create Expanded Universe content !!! Like I don't know why they can't just do what Marvel does with their multiple realities and universes !? I'm done ranting, I've taken up too much of your day as it is. Peace fellow lore nerd...
Arthur Morgan too bad they can't cure tb
@TomeOfBattle it hurts my heart deeply to envision the emotions of the multitude of Legends authors and graphic designers. Imagine working months on a passionate novel game only for in several years its basically viewed as glorified fan fic for a ridiculous universe full of bad content. I'd be devastated. How in hell did Disney explain this vast change to all those people that had put actual chunks of their lives and minds into making Star Wars what it "was" ?
I woe the day when SWTOR dies. It is all that I have left that actively expands and respects Legends...
@Oliver Smalley It's hilarious. Used to be a time when I couldn't get enough of it.
@@blackshogun272 Replied to my old, and defunct account there. But yeah, Legends had a lot of good stuff in it and Di$ney were idiots to piss off the fans by decanonizing it.
Clicked instantly when i saw this gigantic planet killer on my screen
Same.
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Haha.
What?
Wow so the World Devastators were literally like Star Wars iterations of SKYNET? That's kinda scary to think about.
Be glad that IG-88 didn't take control of those!
Zoloft77 Legends IG-88 was one of the bois 😂
Funny you mention it.. seeing as during the Vong War an Star Wars Version of Terminators DID make an appearance and eventually saw heavy combat
Yes and no. They weren't capable of self replicating like skynet was, they could only self upgrade. Skynet both upgraded and replicated as every terminator, facility, and general computer was "skynet", in reality only 1 needed to survive to start the cycle over again. A world devastator is just itself, producing units, those units are not capable of restarting the cycle if its destroyed.
Both however are massively handicapped by plot armour. Skynet would realistically have won, by making nodes in places people simply can't reach (under sea, under ground, in space, etc), and the world devastators would have been best used by 1st deploying them in unoccupied systems, letting them build insane fleets before anyone even knew they existed, and each one having its own unique shutdown code, no master code. It's always the same in sci-fi when dealing with AI, they always have to handicap it, by saying it shall only exist were people can get to it, or it won't just build more units than people have bullets, or it'll not design something that's nigh unkillable.
@@cgi2002 Well you have to realize that Skynet was, according to T3, a server cluster that operated at 60 teraflops a second... which was mind-blazingly fast back then, but today it's kinda slow by comparison. That's like... borderline capable of basic A.I. work. So it's actually fairly understandable that it didn't think of those things.
Could you do a video just on the technology of the dark empire
Although it’s not likely, unfortunately, I would love to see the First Order use these or something like them in future in media. It could be a logical and interesting explanation as to how they amassed such a large army.
This might actually be how they did it...
Can we get the Arc Hammer SSD video you proposed awhile back? People won’t vote for it because they don’t really know about it, hence the need to make the video to show them this underrated beauty of a ship.
I think this might sound crazy, but I think the World Devastators should've come back in the sequels, because they fit well with the First Order's seemingly nomadic doctrine of strip mining whatever they find for resources. It would've been cool to, say, see the resistance go to Crait only to find the World Devastators are already there and are eating it up and cranking out walkers and fighters.
Now imagine the Death Star redesigned into a moon sized World Devastator.
No, wait, bad brain, for that route must surely lead to Unicron0_0''
"For a time I considered sparing your wretched little planet Mon Cala, but now you shall witness it's dismemberment!"
@Itnetlolor Why am I imagining this as one of those idle flashgames o_0''
Yeach...another Starkiller Base :\
(but it didn't killed a star)
we already had something like that - the Star Forge. while it wasnt mobile, it was basically World Devastator big as a Death Star that fed on matter and energy to create whole fleets, weapons or droids armies.
They are by definition, the Von Neumann Ships of Star Wars. I even bet, that they could go as big as entire moons and there would be millions of that said ship in just a few years. Thus making them the most efficient superweapon/ship that ever existed in all of Star Wars. I would choose the World Devastator than any SW superweapon, as it is the most efficient all of them.
Yeah, it's my favorite piece of technology in SW and the concept totally doesn't deserve enough attention. Any halfway-competent industrialist should be able to figure out the matter-conversion tech involved, build a small one, and, like Eck said, just set it loose in a forgotten asteroid belt for a while. Places like Corellia, Kuat, Rendili should be able to operate these things, strip mining uninhabitated systems to crank of warships, with none of the "Dark Side alchemy" complications of something like the Star Forge.
Honest to God, why haven't they make a show about the Empire yet? I'd binge the living hecc out of that show, especially if they add in some of these new weapons...
Because Disney will never make a show about the "bad guys"
@@salemmostafa3661 says who mate? Malificent is the bad guy of Sleeping Beauty, and look how that turned out...
Fair enough
@@salemmostafa3661 I mean, think about it--a lot of kids are drawn to Darth Vader and the Empire, because they just have the coolest stuff. Plus, since the Empire seems, in some cases, a lot more competent than the Rebels, it would be interesting if they had a show that explored the more human side of the Empire, perhaps even showing the positive sides of having an airtight galactic government and its effect on everyday life in the galaxy. Imagine if they made a show about a pair of stormtroopers with the Imperial Exploration Division, who get shipped around the galaxy all the time and get to see all these new parts of the galaxy we haven't seen yet...
@@drakeredwingofficial as long as Will get cool space battles I will be okay with it 😅 jk this seems like a cool idea but again Disney will never Listen to the fans and that's coming from someone who likes star wars rebels and the sequel trilogy
This makes me want to GM a Dark Empire RPG campaign...
What Dark Empire sourcebook were you referencing?
I guess its essencial guide to warfare
The one from West End Games' D6 RPG rules. You can find easily a pdf on the net, WEG books are in a legal limbo nowadays.
It's called the Dark Empire Sourcebook by WEG
Sweet, thanks! I figured it was WotC before Saga Edition, WEG wouldn't have been on my mind at all.
@@danielpucher3367 WEG had supplements for all the major early releases of EU in the 90s: Thrawn Trilogy, Jedi Academy Trilogy, Dark Empire, Tales of the Jedi, Truce of Bakura... They are cool books, and very useful both for reading lore and for playing rpgs or miniature wargames.
So, basically, the empire invented the Borg.
or Fred Saberhagen's Beserkers?
Yeah- it's a Von Noymen probe.
@@jasoncaldwell5627 Yes, they were. And it's spelled Von Neumann.
you know what I had to think of?
Stargate: Replicators.
look them up, they are one of my most favorite things in Sci-Fi
That what I was thinking. Dumb really. I've know about both for ages. Just made the link
Speaking of which, someone has requested “Stargate Replicators vs Unified Star Wars Galaxy” hundreds of times now.
#AskEck , is there a reason this hasn’t been done yet, despite the frequency of the request? Lack of personal/popular interest? Lack of knowledge? Lack of time to research effectively? Unfeasible scale?
@@UGNAvalon JESUS MAN. Why do you hate star wars so much.
@@UGNAvalon I still think Replicators vs Flood would be better.
@@quantummaniac5 The Flood scared one of the Forerunners' best ai that was meant to destroy the Flood, it turned on its creators and was one of the reasons for their downfall. At least I think that's what happened.
And yet, the republic didn't ever lay claim onto a single intergalactic ship!
Yes, they took two world devastators from Palpatine.
Does anyone in charge of Star Wars have any forthought to how technology would impact the setting? I mean holy shit, why are there not giant 3D printers printing out starships if these World Devastators can do it? Why aren't there Constructor Drone swarms? Why is this concept not taken apart into different individual components that are automated but not Artificially Intelligent?
Program a drone swarm to self propagate and when it no longer detects matter in their surroundings, they eat themselves instead, feeding all material to a hive ship that functions as a shipyard crafting droids, drones, weapons, and ships.
It's not intelligent, it's just automated. It sorts, it allocates resources, and it produces from blueprints.
Send one missile loaded with constructor drones at a planet and they go to work. This doesn't even require nanotech as seen in the typical Grey Goo concept, just drones of the same nature we typically see. They don't even have to be small, they could be normal sized drones that swarm around lazing resources, storing them, then returning to the hive or drop off points.
It's also ridiculous there aren't more cyborgs and why what few cyborgs we do see look janky as hell.
Soooo what your saying is that you could grey goo a planet with drones, a hive ship, and less time then normal grey goo.
Because that would be far too easy. It's like joining a game but your character somehow is maxed out and also has admin commands to further increase how OP your character is.
That would end everything easily
That's how they make ships and do large scale production. How do you think they pumped out tens of thousands of ships in like 20 years with only a few major manufacturing hubs like Kuat?
Their production capabilities in Star Wars is pretty high.
"Big mistake guys." Yeah that sums up pretty much the whole of darn near everything the New Republic, canon and legends did.
Well having superweapons for threat you knew was coming but they don't is just overkill. But ok to live as slaves to all subjugating empire cause security.
Loved the mission on the old N64 rogue squadron game to take them down
I think the NR's policy would see something like the World Devastator as a threat too big for the galaxy to function properly around, and their destruction of the World Devastator was a good idea, because they actively avoided centralizing their power too much for fear of becoming a new Empire. Same reason they got rid of the Sun Crusher: if one person with a vendetta gets ahold of one, "good guy" or not, millions if not billions or trillions of beings will die.
I believe Sun Crusher armor would revolutionize the star wars...to the point that no one would be able to stop unit with it.
@@WadcaWymiaru only if it's replicable. We still haven't worked out half of what Tesla was doing, and he sold a bunch of his inventions.
@@nickmalachai2227 we did figure out everything. That is just a myth. And the armour is replicateable the inventor of the sun crusher rebouilt a cathedral out of it after she was responsible for it's destruction.
So they're basically mechanical tyranids.
Only slightly worse that they don't need to target inhabited worlds, set a few loose on an asteroid belt while running attacks by your fighters and capital ships to help it adapt to combat and you could have an unstoppable warfleet.
Basically the IRON MEN then ?
@@alonelyperson6031 its "Men of Iorn"
The Empire existed so no engineering or architectural students went unemployed.
Also, Iserlohn Fortress deserves a breakdown like this.
Legends of the Galactic Heroes?
All these comments making comparisons, but no one mentions the OG version: Fred Saberhagan's Berserkers.
Self-replicating automated warships that continually improve themselves to deal with the advancements of their enemy, with the goal of wiping out all life.
Throw that thing on one of the Junk worlds and watch the junk become priceless lol
Thanks for covering this ship I saw it once in a book and have been very much in love with it since.
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A galaxy where rogue devastators consumed all the resources and now are hunting each other...
Just a request: what would happen if Palpatine did start conquering other galaxies? What if he already started spreading his Seeds? And how would the Milky Way react/respond & such?
United Halo universe Vs. Dark empire's invasion fleet. I will give them 2 of these beasts, and 25 Sovereigns
They will completely loose I think advanced enough devastors are a good Mach up against a flood
Half life 2's galaxy's mere decimal of the combine's armed forces against the Empire
Would be stupidly cool i would like to see dark empire vs halo galaxy or earth vs dark empire i could not even think how epic it will be!
Nah, by the time he would reach the wilky way, qe would already be in the grim dark future of 40k😅
Eck you are by far my favorite Star Wars channel. I would like to see some videos detailing the history and lore behind the Fel Empire. Keep up the good work.
Ah my favorite super weapon. I would love to have one of these.
With a driod programming like R2D2, hollow be his name, or C3P0. Should keep it in line...
I think they were meant to be used against the Yuuzhan Vong and their world ships
That's what thrawn would have used them for.
Allot of the super weapons palpatine had planned were meant to fight the vong, the second death star was supposed fight the vong
These things kind of remind of me of the armored command units from Supreme Commander. While manned, if you threw one of them on a planet, they could build factories, defences, and some very large combat units while harvesting and reclaiming metals and minerals. In a short while, you could have an army large enough to take over a planet.
#askeck With the fleet mostly manned by battle droids why did the Separatists not limit breathable atmospheres to certain areas of their ships?
Surely this would make boarding actions by both clones and Jedi much more difficult.
How would that be difficult? This is Star Wars and they could easily compensate with breathable helmets and suits.
A Giant Metal Death Kirby.
That can pump out anything
Haltman corp made products for the Empire?
Yes! I’ve been wanting a World Devastator video forever!!
You forgot that the World Devastators weakness was it's exposed shield generator on top and the repulsor legs once the generator got destroyed. Veteran of Rogue Squadron 3D lol
It took an embarrassingly long time for 10 year old me to figure that out
But in reality world devastators would probably have an extremely high sheild capacity along with their tough armor, would probably take dreadnaught class vessels to battle them in a straight firefight with any chance if success
I always wondered if they just pretended that map never happened in RS
A game about being a world devestator would be a blast
Great ,gigantic von neumann machines. Like the galaxy didn't have enough doomsday weapons already.
Funny how so few viewers are even aware what it means and what is a grey goo scenario.
Kind of my thought. I don't blame the republic for noping out of that.
This is the doomsday weapon that dooms all doomsday weapons. along with checkmating the universe. on the Imperial Overpowered Scale (IOS (Which has nothing to do with a phone.)), this rates about an ∞ to the ∞th power ∞ to the ∞th power times. On the "How badly should I give up" scale, it rates an astounding "Ripping the paper to shreds"
R2-D2 is the most powerful superweapon in Star Wars.
Change my mind.
I wouldn't be surprised if Legends R2 still has the plans for every super weapon he was ever plugged into.
Legends say that R2D2 is the bullet that Chuck Norris fired from his gun when he fired his first actual shot, which landed upon the star wars universe.
Evidence found in the webcomic Darths & Droids
Yeah, but mouse droids come pretty close
No. JarJar.
I love the World Devastators, I would have loved if the canon brings them back somehow.
They have (at least the design). In Rebels you see machines like them strip mining Lothal.
wraithphoenix they actually where designed with them in mind, but they are nowhere near the level of destructive output as the Devestators.
I won't mind seeing something on a grander scale and hopefully more derivative than the generic planet destroying superweapons, tho.
They should have just used the world devastators in the rise of skywalker as palpatine's main sith fleet super weapons instead of the xyston class star destroyers
they could've used world devastators to defeat the Vong.
If only the new republic weren't so scared.
The borg unlike those super weapons had their own will, they were comprised of millions of mind.
They could've also reprogrammed the machines to build cities and defend systems on their own, help civilians in case of a surprise attack.
When Qui Xux came up with the World Devastators, she intended for them to be used to harvest asteroids and barren worlds to produce machinery to help people. Too bad she was working for Tarkin at the time.
Remember playing against these in an old star wars game.
In the V-wing airspeeder.
@@silentdrew7636 yup. Rogue squadron right?
Dark Empire had the best ships. Self replicating ships.
Lucrehulk-Class Battleship Vs Nebula Class Star Destroyer
-Battleship variant of the Lucrehulk (Battle Of Coruscant)
(with a full complement of Droid StarFighters and Weapnary)
I love how the peak of Dark Empire technology could only achieve what the Abominor were already capable of. It just goes to show how overpowered of a species those metal monstrosities really are.
Horizon zero dawn: ...increasing at an exponential rate
Star wars: *hold my god damn beer*
Id love if you did a video on Vua Rapuung, the Yuuzhan Vong who helped Anakin on Yavin 4.
That would be a fun video. I covered the vong battle of yavin briefly in a prior video
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (545th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*
Jeez man how long have you been at this.
As long as the dude who wanted a video on the Valiant class ships, I'm guessing.
Replicators always lose due to implanted "plot armor weakness" subroutines:D
I know, I know... but likewise I'll never give up pointing it out. Stargate had thrown dozens of concepts and potential stories into the trash. Replicators was one of the worst examples of wasted potential. How can we put them against anything if theoretically they can do almost anything, but in the show they'd do nothingat all most of the time? Star Wars stomps simply because Stargate authors never cared enough for their own creations. And I'm never forgetting how they axed Azurans.
@@TheArklyte the entire star wars Galaxy taken together couldn't take out a single Replicator ship or a Replicator enchanced star wars ship.
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 1990's tech with a bit of plot armor defeated replicators. Star Wars has unlimited supply of plot armor. Result: replicators lose. Reason: don't overthink a joke;)
I love Starwars Legends especially the expanded universe
Mobile Star Forges before the Star Forge was a thought. Even better since it doesn't need to feed on Dark Side energy.
It just melts down everything in its path and churns warships out of the junk.
I'm building world devastator out of Legos right now. I'm waiting on some bricklink orders, so it's only the frame with some of the interior details, but it'll be about the size of the ucs star destroyer, with lights and a couple motorized bits
Rogue squadron n64
was the game where I first saw these ships 🙂
I wonder how a world devastator would compare to a Borg cube.
Great video man. I have a question if they had used world devastators during the yuuzhan vong war how useful would have been like in the sense that would they have won the war faster with less casualties maybe even had stop the vong right at the edge of the galaxy. I mean if the world devastators are that powerful then they could have been very useful plus am I right in thinking that the yuuzhan vong hated droids and anything A.I so with that they would have focused their efforts more on devastators leaving them open to counter attack or flaking. I'm not fully in the know about all the star wars lore which is why I love watching these videos but I thought that it would make a interesting thought. Anyway thanks for the upload and look forward to seeing future video's
I had no idea they were this powerful. Awesome vid, mind blown...
Would it have been a good idea to have sent a devastator to a planet covered in junk? Tons and tons of metal to convert into a new fleet.
Like Ord Mantell. The planet where IG-88 rust in pieces.
It must’ve sucked when the Vong came and some smart guy went.”hey you know what be useful? That Devastator... OH WAIT YOU THREW IT AWAY”
Dumbass: But people didn't like it...
Smart Guy: *Takes blaster and shoots Dumbass furiously*
Ah so basically the replicators from SG1 but not as bad
Dark Empire really went into nightmare territory with some of its contents... Really nice summary on the World Devastators, thank you!
#askEck
So while we're on world devastators I actually thought of something interesting in my opinion, Can you do a versus of:
World devastator vs The vong world ship?
I remember using a Star Wars mod for Homeworld 2
and i loved playing as a World Desvastator.
Hardest level on Rogue Squadron for the N64 has these ships on them.😳
It was piss easy save multi lock missiles for the tie fighters.
Same with the PC version
The mission on Fest where you have to evacuate the AT-PTs was worse in my opinion.
What was playing in the background is that a game or a movie either way it was badass and I want to see more also awesome awesome video keep up the good work.
Swtor mmo
33 likes. 1 view. The planets have aligned. Every one take a sip of whiskey.
Hey man, your video filling in for Eckhartsladder was neat. I subscribed and I love your channel.
GOOD JOB ECKHARTS. keep going we love your videos!
If Palpatine’s goal was subjugation of the universe with the world devastators, wouldn’t that basically destroy the Force if they wiped out most of the life?
Joe Clerkin they could be controlled by him like the clones with a master code input plus they couldn't attack Imperial workers. Palpatine wouldn't be stupid enough to conquer another galaxy and forget his literal navies were eating his Empire !!! They can be directed but if an entire sector or system is of no use to him, then the chunky evil R2's about to eat guuuud 🤣
Yeah, they mention this In I, Jedi, how Exar Kun is like a predator overgrazing his prey, as the force comes from life, and when he killed gantoris and when Kyp blew up Caridia, he diminished his power.
Kingsnake Command I love how Valkorian was a direct opposite to this. Man fed off the death of billions in his wars just to fuel his prolonged life and spirit 😂
Quality empire engineering at it's finest. 👌
Congrats to 1 milion on ur dreadnought vid❤❤❤❤
If a World Devastator could have built more World Devastators they would have become the gift that keeps on giving.
Wait aren’t they in the new game Fallen Order when taking apart Venators in that one cutscene in the trailer??
8:06 these little bits just solidify my belief that any faction in Star Wars with the word ‘republic’ in it is corrupt, lazy, self-serving, indecisive, and foolish.
1. T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing
2. Nebula Star Destroyer VS Pellaon class Star Destroyer
What rebel fighter did lord farquad/markiplier fly?
I remember these from Star Wars: Rogue Squadron.
Vs machup
CSO Super Carrior vs Godzilla Earth
Godzilla Earth. G-Earth destroyed a moon-sized asteroid in a single shot when it wasn't fully grown (or rather, before it reached the 300-meter height we see in the anime). Even assuming it required a charging period to do so, the moon is far bigger than a CSO carrier. Whilst the carrier is powerful, and probably could've taken down Reach's entire defence grid on its own, G-Earth tanked basically every nuke America had on hand when it was young and came out unscathed. It can swim in the magma of the earth, crack continental plates, and is potentially smarter than humans.
Problem is Godzilla is grounded on whatever planet its on. Has no armor besides scales and no shielding; while its only "Capital Ship Killer" is a nuclear breath attack probably up to a kilometer away max range. Whereas the CSO is a inter systemic super ship wielding a shield that unless a nuke got inside, was virtually immune to nuclear attacks. Plus, the energy projectors it has glass whole cities in mere minutes. Soooooo, yeah.
Rick James bingo, never go to ground against a beast like that. Obliterate it from orbit
great video. I would like to see a video on the covinent caste system (from halo), next.
#AskEck Is there any in legends explanation as to why neither or the imperial remnant or the remaining warlord factions tried to make use of their own, or reactivate, any of the world devastators?
I believe all of them were sent on the initial Mon Cala mission, the New Republic actually was using one to rebuild their forces in one of the early pages of Dark Empire 2, but they scuttled them all because of the fear they represented.
Those Old Republic cinematics never get old.
World devastors = Borg cubes that are both useful and cool.
Borg are boring and stupid...
just think if we see those at the Rise of Skywalker😱🆒️🆒️🆒️🆒️🆒️:making ships for the First Order
I will give up. Just kidding, I will love it. I also want Thrawn to show up and roast the first order.
Actually that would make a lot of sense for how they were able to produce their war machines. A few of those controlled by the Supremacy as their central hub, would make perfect sense.
This is really cool because when I was young I played Star Wars Rogue Squadron on my N64 and the last mission in the game was where you had to destroy these world devourers. The mission itself was called “Battle of Calamari” . I just thought I was interesting how these two link and that this weapon is so old in the expanded universe lore.
#AskEck
*Attempt 547*
Can you do the Forerunners vs Warhammer 40k factions and time eras of the galaxy faction versus battles please?
imagine if the world devastators could produce sun crusher, that tiny ship is the most dangerous ship in star wars
No views but 2 likes (plus mine) RUclips fix you game.
Ryan Adam Game?
The longer the world devastator is on Mon Calamari, the stronger it becomes.
United Mass Effect galaxy + the Reapers vs a Yuzhan Vong invasion in it's fullest
World Devastators made a sorta backdoor appearance in Canon too...they were the model used for the mining rigs that were destroying Lothal in Rebels. Much smaller, crewed, and without the production capacity, but still a World Devastator model, and acting much like one by stripmining the surface of Lothal at a rather horrifying rate.
Grey goo, Galactus, Galvatron, and world devastators. I don't know about the flood, but three of those scare me in a literary sense, while the first terrifies me more than I can explain.
Self-Replicating Artificial-Intelligence Machines : Exists
Yuuzhan Vong: *REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
The entire time you were talking about these World Devastators reminded me of the Horus Battle Platforms from Horizon Zero Dawn. Barring the kill switch, of course, which the battle platforms didn't have, and the somewhat smaller scale.
I remember the world devastaters being a thing in the N64 star wars game star wars rouge squadron. There was a mission where you had to destroy one as it was taking material from the planet.
As a kid I loved replaying the World Devastator Mon Calamari mission lol
(8:37) Man! Is that fur flying in that shot? :P
You always make well balanced and good videos the dog is the best end
Dude your grammar sucks ass
This reminds me of “project Zero Dawn” mainly because if you give any mechanical force self automation and the means to self replicate you basically sign the death warrant of the entire galaxy or an entire planet 🌎.
I actually kind of want to see a game about this. Like a fleet based RPG game where you play as one of these things.
#AskEck Would be so interesting to see a video on Sith Pureblood/Sith nobility and family lines. Old Republic Era lore of course.
Confirmed eck doesn't think of mon cala as people