Is Stax Good, Actually? | Commander Clash Podcast #39
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2022
- We discuss Stax in Commander: defining it, talking about our favorite and least favorite cards, why people dislike it and whether that hate is justified.
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I think Crim has a point about people getting salty about stax in part bc we have decided that stax is something to get salty about. The difference between stax and other forms of interaction is entirely arbitrary, if stax was more present people would get used to it and care about it less
I've quite literally only played against one person that had a stax deck with "no wincon" (naturally drawing into approach of the Second Sun). I don't know where all these stax boogeymen are hiding.
As wizards is printing more of the snowball cards or cards that are value engines themselves. stax is more needed and more diverse. what about punishing land ramp and drawing cards?
We're seeing once again the issue with the commander ruleset - the goal of constructed formats is to win the game. The goal of EDH is not as well defined, and people bring their own idea of what a game "should be" with them to the table. All the arguments for or against any particular playstyle will stand or fall based on those preconceptions.
from a full board, casting apocalypse -> hold priority -> teferi's protection is just as much of an 8 mana win the game as a craterhoof behemoth, and it even takes more cards to do it, so it could be considered "more casual" by many measures. stax isn't the problem, durdling stax is the problem.
Psychologically, people react more negatively to "No" than they do to "Stop."
no, we need more of it
I completely agree with Crim. Magic is great because there’s back and forth
"people want to play magic!"....Plays stax...."NOT LIKE THAT!!"
For the amount of complaints I've been hearing about treasures recently Stony Silence is definitely playable right now.
I like my stax pieces referred as "proactive removal"
Someone needs to do the stats on how often artifacts and enchantments get blown up because all four of them act like it happens once a turn cycle
Before watching:
I understand its super mana intensive but one of my favorite interactions with Realm Razer is using it with Oblivion Sower to take everyone's lands after I exile them
The trick to stax is to break parity, always has been.
Personally, against Curious Obsession decks the feeling of dread comes from the carddraw rather than the counterspells. The counterspells suck of course but only because you know that they are no longer 1 for 1's when they have that enchantment on their creature.
Regarding game length: This depends so much on the group.
The Realm Razer discussion has inspired me to build creature based naya stax, thx guys!
I find that people are less salty when the stax piece is in direct synergy with the deck. For instance: I've shut down blink players with the Torpor Orb in my Phage deck and they were pretty cool with it, but when I used an opposition agent on the landfall player in the same game they blew up at me.
I feel so bad for every person that listened to the podcast instead of watching it on RUclips and therefore missed Crim's face :D The barely hold in smile/laughter is hilarious