Personally, I feel like that severely damages the credibility of Soggy's video because it gives the impression that he and Jimmy are working together. That may absolutely not be the case at all, but it still gives that impression.
@@ZeromuS_ Doesn’t matter if he’s not a real journalist if he’s playing journalist on covering mrbeast and heavily fumbles the allegations. One false statement is all that’s needed for him to be sued for defamation. Like the false accusations about the cp or James Warren, or the illegal lotteries.
He didn’t lie. He was very clear what he could corroborate or not. It’s gross that mrbeast glazers are trying to call him a liar just for repeating what MR BEAST’S OWN CREW CLAIMED. They were the ones passing around lewd images, gleefully saying it was a 13 year old. When someone does that you report it. It’s not on you to track down the girl and investigate it yourself. Jimmy’s crew were the ones lying, if she wasn’t 13, which is what they were claiming. As far as little nitpicks like the yacht, it’s not on Dawson to prove they stayed in a yacht. He gave the time lapse for you to decide for yourself. With the CGI and employees acting like contestants, just because they have an excuse that doesn’t make what dogpack say false or even misleading. Even if they have an excuse now, mrbeast & co were portraying it very differently at the time. Given all that, dogpack has shown himself to be way more honest than mrbeast so when it comes to the “he said she said” parts, I don’t believe a word Jimmy says anymore and dogpack still has some credibility. Btw, dogpack didn’t claim to have the original video and asked Jimmy to release the original video to debunk it if he was wrong.
@@aalvarez2914 he didnt lie about james warren stuff, he just happens to mistake james warren as a gf beater and a dog beater, and the photo of ivanka trump was not cheese pasta right? Lol
People seem to be forgetting this about him. Meanwhile soggy and other people who are making videos about DP now are (Turkey Tom and others like him) are going right back to siding with mrbeast.
Remember mr beast paid the flight of soggy, while not wanting to come for a face to face interview with more pegasus, and that soggy was allowed to interview mr beast employees while coffeezilla couldn't :)
to be fair, Mr.beast knew he could spin Soggy's video into a defense/positive outlook without Soggy really realizing, he knew he couldn't do the same for the others.
Remember dogpack accused an innocent man of animal abuse and domestic violence :). Dogpack will be lucky if he isn't sued till all his property is taken away from him
@@GhostFreakerhes not fucking innocent they are just both guilty the beast games medicine and other horrible actions are still a problem and coffezilla made it clear mrbeast is a shady crypto person
I couldn't watch the video past the Jake Weddle bit because I was flabbergasted how he just pretended like Jake didnt have massive pressure on him not to leave
Absolutely dude. He prides himself on being unbiased and just, but it’s really obvious he’s trying his best to defend Beast. People don’t understand that real ACTORS/ACTRESSES deal with that pressure and are often forced to do a lot they may not be comfortable with due to high production costs and continuity
@@soul-of-cinder actually there is I forgot the movie but it's a horror movie which the director put them in real stress so it would come out good in the movie
Apparently soggy was paid flight and hotel accommodation to have an interview with Dawson's former co-workers. Dawson is a disgruntled employee but mrbeasts involvement gave lots of people the false impression that Mr beast is off the hook
Its sketchy asf that Soggy maliciously took something completely out of context to attack and insinuate that Camnuggets was a "pizza enthusiast", without zero evidence, and used that as a spring board to attack Dogpack. It reaks of bias, and potentially I think he's lying about how much influence the Beast*tm had over his interviews and his access to active Beast employees, who we know are under NDAs. It appears from that Chudlogic interview Soggy did, that even he wasn't sure if it was Dustin was the one who paid for his trip over or not. Honestly, I think the Beast*tm saw an opportunity and took it, including his million dollar crisis management team.
So being wrong while making accusations and damaging your credibility while calling in to question all the other accusations is a good thing as long as the word gets out. Y’all are retarded
@@Bro-Sapienyes. Exactly. Because if he didnt.....then mr beast would still have the shield of him being this saint who xan do no wrong. And everyone would continue to ignore all the shit.
Yep. i never and a lot of people don't take everything DogPack says all true because some of his take in the videos are weird, but the big and true issue are there and real which is great that he brought it up. At least now whenever someone criticize him his fans can't use claim that he is a saint or whatever
Also I don’t care if Dawson lie or is a disgruntled ex employee. There’re still evidence that Mr. Beast isn’t the best person. He’s definitely shady. Some allegations have truths in them. Don’t believe RUclipsrs, use your critical thinking skills.
but that's what we're doing , no one is saying Mr Beast is a saint but if Dawson lied about one thing he can lie about everything. THAT is critical thinking and that is what Soggy showed , that he lied , he never said Mr Beast was a saint he in fact said Beast still has a lot to talk about/address
@@leorelic about the signature thing with the t-shirts So soggy did actually say that other people can use the signature of mrbeast (needs permission) is legal. And make it argue that dogpack is wrong about it being illegal. But...the thing is, dogpack did not say that it was fraud and he is leaning more to deceptive marketing And here we have soggy cereal arguing something (which is true), but he is not arguing dogpacks statements. Thus, taking it out of context
“Dogpack used dishonest tactics in some of his evidence and should be held accountable” and “Dogpack brought a spotlight to Jimmy’s questionable business practices that has led to concrete evidence of him being a shitty person” are two ideas that can and should coexist.
Does this really even excuse most of the game show allegations where he refused to give people medication and let people leave in stretchers and him being a prick to jake weddle and still not coming out about ava despite knowing?
they could leave whenever they wanted they didnt have to stay and its a game show for money its not gonna be easy to win money ppl complaining about getting hurt they are literally playing a game people get hurt in game alot of the time if they cant handle it they should have left instead of letting greed take them over
@ problem is most of these games were also rigged in favor of others and basic necessities like food and water are required for people to live, this was likely not even mentioned when they signed up not to mention when they wanted to get their belongings they were forced to look through hundreds of lockers to find their things
I watched soggies vid. and man was it subjective and narrow-minded at (all)times. He also happened to cherry pic examples to support his statements but ignored publicly known cases that would disprove his assumptions. He also makes the common mistake on generalizing one instance and assuming this is always the case. 12:30 makes me wonder wether soggy understands sarcasm. As someone who is very well endowed with Mr. beast in general and every important allegation out there, I can still say without a doubt in my mind Mr. Beast is a total pos. Like even only one of some of the many allegations going around should be carrier ruining, Mr beast still going strong means there is not enough awareness about him being a 2 faced fraudulent manipulator, which is so sad to see.
Yeah I thought some of DogPack's claims were just jokes and this guy took it too seriously! Soggy Cereal still failed to address all of MrBeast's allegations, it feels a bit rushed but more like a basic slander against DogPack...
@@volkankoyuncu8142 Yeah he should not have done that, he probably think it should be fine but this makes his video hard to take seriously for many people and it is an ammunition for others
The take away is that Dogpack was wrong, but not everything was wrong. I'd love it if Soggy would make another video that talked about everything else like the Beast Games and all of that stuff. He shows a very neutral broadcasting of what has happened, as shown with his twitter posts.
As someone else said, I wouldn't be surprised if Soggy ends up doing a deeper investigation into Mr Beast, considering how he's trying to use his video as his "response" This entire situation is a mess due to Dogpack, we desperately need more neutral and truthful people investigating this in order for anything meaningful to come from it.
@@Ash21 I wouldn't say Soggy is any better. Most of his video, take out maybe 3 points he made (which Quintheo mentions in this video), was his own melt-down-opinions rather than "debunking". Soggy himself omitted information, constructed and presented said opinions as "facts" and "debunks", and above all was going on a rampage throughout video over things Dawson and Jake Weddle did/said, only do to the same things himself on the very same video... His condescending manner and rage comes across as vengeful and childish which don't help him either. If anything, I'd say Soggy, at this point, is as credible as Dawson- some points are valid and backed by what seem like actual evidence, some turned out to be either guesses and opinions or flat out lies. There's also the whole none-apology thing with Camnuggets, one of the most wholesome youtubers I've ever watched! it's rather infuriating. Insinuating that given more context, the point would've been valid is immensely stupid and reckless. He should've apologized straight away.
When someone is passionately defending a shady person... that's a biiiiig, big red flag. Those later tweets just reek of backtracking. All in all, what we have before us is one giant mess...
I don’t like the point about the signatures. The whole point of collecting signatures is to get something from the actual person purported to have signed the item. Someone CAN sign on your behalf if you designate them to for legal documents or letters. On Pawn Stars, usually when people find signatures of, for instance old presidents, the signatures have to be authenticated to ensure their secretaries didn’t sign them in order for them to be worth anything meaningful. But hey, if you’re a collector who’s cool with potentially inauthentic collectibles, then by all means!
90% of the doggycereal's video is like a hit piece on dogpack. I gave up on taking the guy seriously the moment he saw dogpack saying 'imma cook you' or something and thought this was a threat of harassment. in all honesty I'm surprised he didn't take it as a threat to cannabilize him, but I guess he has more IQ points than the summers of alaska.
he should've either specified being a meatrider for mrbeast or that he has a hate boner for dawson. he juggled both and failed at sounding credible. also sus how he has confidential info that should only be accessible with company clearance, aka he was fed information by mrbeast co
Yup, the stuff soggy covered is whatever shit that was already dealt with lots of times. Like employees being in the video cause of others having covid.
@@Quintheo i feel you. Its still kinda low hangin deuit though. Also i feel framing Dawson as a "liar" isnt fair at all. Especially with things like how he said they were on a yacht. He was saying he lied about that as if he could jave any idea at all if they were on a yacht or not. All he knew was what he could see, which was that in one scene they were gone and then suddenly back eith rain coats they manifested out of thin air with. To say Dawson was lying about that is extremely unfair. He obviously was just making an exaggerated guess cause where else could they be? And he was right, they were taken off the raft. For legitimate reasons that he would have no way of knowing about, but he was still correct about the video being misleading. Which is the main point, that mr beasts videos are edited to tell a certain narrative and isnt concerned with being honest and transparent about certain things.
@@goldenlotus3046 That's the issue I have with dogpack, you can't go around making exaggerated guesses/jokes when coming forward with serious allegations, you should only talk about what you know for certain.
Wait MrBeast can’t donate to making people walk because somebody else pulled out of a charity vid? Donate anyway. Who cares if a vid gets made or not. Sheesh
I do think Soggy's video was a bit too sided with Jimmy, especially with the signature and downplaying of Jake's whole thing but outside of that and the camnuggets thing, I thought it was a really good video. If we want Jimmy to face some sort of consequences for the things he's done, we gotta get our facts straight, this was a good start to that. In my opinion, Dogpack really should have just handed this off to someone who knows what they're doing from the very beginning.
Watch Spill Sesh on Mr. Beast. SoggyCereal was paid by Jimmy, his plane flight, hotel room and editing his video to debunk Dogpack. Also Mr. Beast contacted several Content Creators to boost Soggy's video.
12:15 this argument is dangerous, as it actively ignores how money, power imbalance, being recorded, and terrible sleep conditions can impact a person's ability to properly consent for themselves. Just because he made a "choice" doesnt mean there wasn't multiple pressures that impacted his consent. Along with that, just because it doesn't match the definition of a warcrime, doesn't make it any less a violation of human rights and health.
Let's not forget that Jake's mental health wasn't at a great place at the time, and that jimmy actively pressured him to keep going through it. Gameshows honestly has destroyed the way people perceive contestants.
36:14 Soggy is making a huge assumption by stating it doesn't devalue the signature, when value is a purely arbitrary thing, that oftentimes is impacted by perceived value. I can say for certainty that to most collectors, a non-Jimmy Mr B signature WILL have a lower value.
Hm, Call me crazy but how Soggy got so many insiders and current MrBeast emploes ? I don't hate Jimmy and I am not fan of DogPack, but it seams suspissions. (I am not saying that Soggy lied, but I belive Mr Beast probably influenced in making this video. I don't belive he paid Soggy or something, but he definatly helped by sending people to him etc.
Saying "I'm not defending Mr Beast" repeatedly makes his behavior even more suspicious especially given the fact that Mr Beast himself commented his video. Also, how the f did Soggy get access to inside information like production footage as well as get paid to fly to the interview with Mr Beast employees
Soggy's video made my head hurt. The "rusty boat" is well upkept as for anyone who has stepped on a boat. Him saying that chandler's cousin is not immediate family is the same as OJ putting on the gloves. Proves nothing. When you say "hey guys buy this thing some of them will be signed by me which will make them more valuable for collectors" and then give the green light to a machine to do it and autosign a million copies is this fraud ? It's the same as me saying "handmade soap for sale" and it being made by a machine. This is false advertising, imagine meds did that.
@jaztyndanielfallorina3469 brother it's a freshly painted boat which we don't see the interior of compared to a wooden raft. Wanna see a video of me holding my breath for 10 hours straight ? I will just cut out the parts i breathe for safety reasons but still claim i didn't btw.
@@jaztyndanielfallorina3469 ofc they were going to die and they would fail the challenge which would make the video less long OR be honest about it in the first place. I'm mad cuz a boat looks nice ? Ur mad cuz u have no idea about the quality of seafaring ANYTHING.
So now that all the big commentary channels are covering this, is everyone gonna go back to treating mrbeast like he's an angel or something? The fuck is wrong with youtube?
Chud Logic interviewed Soggy and Soggy revealed that his trip to the U.S. to do the interviews with Beast employees, as well as his hotel accommodations, were paid for personally by a Beast employee. Although Soggy claims it wasn't paid for to his knowledge by the Beast company, it seems possible that the employee could have been reimbursed by the company. I feel that should have been disclosed by Soggy because that can easily be used as ammunition against him. Makes a bit of sense to me that Soggy didn't prod any of the employees for more information and just agreed with everything they had to say. Personally, I do agree with you that it was a good thing that Dogpack brought some of these Beast allegations to light. BUT, I think he did a very poor job at presenting the information and researching his claims because so many of them were purely hearsay. In his video, Dogpack says he doesn't like hearsay and we should believe him based on his receipts. But his receipts were mostly unreliable, unsubstantiated, anonymous, unable to be proven, or a combination of those. So ultimately, we had to rely on the hearsay. In my opinion, Dogpack has a personal vendetta. I'm glad that Soggy made his video and we are finally seeing someone question the validity of Dogpack's claims. That being said, I think it is very suspicious that Soggy was paid to come do the interviews and that he didn't disclose it, as well as Beast reaching out to other commentary channels asking them to cover his video. It doesn't seem implausible that Soggy was working alongside Beast, perhaps even compensated, for being some undercover PR for the company. Sure, he's playing the "I was used" card, but that would be a great way to try and distance yourself from Beast. Again, if he wasn't, it's unfortunate for him that he wasn't smart enough to have the foresight that people may become suspicious that he didn't disclose that his trip was paid for by a beast employee. May want to cover that Quintheo :) Chud Logic Interview: ruclips.net/video/PU0y0bmag8k/видео.html Harmful Opinions video which speaks on this: ruclips.net/video/oqdIJXbPeFE/видео.html
Finally, somebody who understands nuance, Jesus. I've watched videos from channels both defending and attacking Beast, and the absolute dichotomy of the comment sections is insane. It can be true that everybody in a given situation is terrible, and also that nobody is. It feels like Soggy's addressing of Dogpack's claims was *mostly* correct, but also extremely shady that he didn't disclose his flights etc. paid for. Beast has clearly done some bad stuff, but nowhere near to the full extent of Dogpack's allegations. Definitely a molehill there, but Dogpack is really trying to make a mountain out of it.
I think a thing to note about the delware situation is after his first appearance they gave him a nickname (Zoro) and still put a mask on him, Jimmy 100 percent knew after the first video.
Hold on a second, either dogpack or someone else cleared out the "free entry" thing very well, its just a legal disclaimer they have to include, but they make impossible through practical means
Quin I have a question I don’t know if it’s relate to this video but there is something not right about mrbeast philanthropy video. The thing when he says the name about country he didn’t precisely telling the name of city where he help people because some documentaries they always telling which city what is going for the context. But him Jimmy, he just release just the name of country like that . I don’t know but It look suspicious because,is it private or public place to film it?
Everyone, remember mr beast paid for soggy's travel, + a lot wasn't adressed In the girl vs boys what about the fact that the girls got the drones and not the boys? Why focus only on the accusations of fake videos that soggy could debunk, but not the ones he couldn't? Like the hospital which seems pretty hard to destroy. What about the fact that during those "non illegal" loterries mr beast said "in the next 5 minutes we will put 10,000 dollars in an order" and do it like 7 minutes after? Or the shadman drawing in the room of Ava where he even filmed a video, just to pretend afterwarss he wasn't aware at all of her behavior? Like COME ON i hate to see that he only focused on what he could debunk, but literally didn't validate any of those points which seem true, that's not a "fair" investigation, that's basically attacking dogpack on any ground you can because you don't like him
@dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideos nah, when he asked more pegasus for an online interview, and then asked to make it a face to face one, he didn't propose to either come or pay for his travel fees
Soggy cereal litrally admitted getting a paid trip and have preplanned interviews with staff. He’s future videos are now very questionable. He’s a paid journalist from beast what about all the crypto scams and the real issues he dodged them all
Have you seen Pegasus community post? He ended up talking to Jimmy and they had planned an interview which was "coincidentally" cancelled by Mr Beast's team last minute. It also seems that Jimmy DMed Pegasus Soggy's video which Pegasus is not falling for, he's remaining objective.
Im not done watching however, regarding the phone recording: north carolina is a one party consent state. Even if the person being recorded didnt consent to it, they can still use it. We can assume, since they are based in NC, that the call took place in NC. i dont think the consent part devalues the information provided, nor is it dogpacks' burden to bear as he is not the person who was in that call. I watched soggys video in full, and he acts as if the consent was a gotcha on dogpack. Even if it was, it would only prove dogpack is "pretty shitty" when it comes to how he treats those hes using as evidence (he could have edited the voice better). Ill keep watching now lmao
I disagree. I think people enjoy the way he outputs drama and content compared to other general commentary channels. As someone who’s growing, you can’t waste an opportunity of people loving you and what you do on just one subject matter. We love you for you, not for the drama you put out. You’re too healthy of a person to keep going with this RUclips Garbo but just. Keep going for us. Not for the sake of anybodies ego or clout. I’ll happily pay your bills while I pay my own. No harm. No foul. Only love. ❤️
This is my third watch of Soggy's video and I just realised that 58 debunked one of Chucky's points He said he heard the other guy yell out but Chucky said he didn't hear Not a big deal or anything but a little funny
In my opinion that no one cares about no one is trustworthy, and there are things that just personally bothers me, like the lotteries for example, some of them might not have been illegal but they still were saying things to like make people to buy, that they're giving "everyone something" or "not making profit" which, again in my opinion, is scamy, also a thing that wasn't mentioned and it bithered me personally was the contest of feastables to pack the shelves or something? Making children in the majority ask workers for the chocolates and such basically making them work, the gamble side of it as well buy chocolate and spin the wheel with the QR code, the convoluted way to get into the free entry by sending letters, the ingredient change on the chocolate that mr beast said it was "infinitely better for you" which, no it isn't, in soggy's video in particular it kinda bothered me how he basically dismissed what Jake went through, also saying that it worked with other people which Jake said (as far as I remember) that he gave them like tips on things to do or not do if they did something similar after, and the Delaware thing, there's no excuse in my eyes for keeping him after realizing he was a rso, also the "no doesn't mean no" thing it's still messed up no matter the context, just call it something else. Dogpack lied a lot, Soggy dismissed and discarded a lot too, mr beast hasn't said a word about the most important things (I think I wrote too much and I fear I didn't get my point across 🙃)
sloppy cereal is actually extremely bad faith, but that’s probably pretty clear to everyone able to tell at least sarcasm apart from actual conversation.
Honestly Kavernackle and Pinely have been the best critics of mr beast, as their points come from philosophies and baselines, and their completely honest about that, and embraces it. Kavernackle ESPECIALLY, and I wish more people watched his videos
I think soggy had fair points. It did disprove some stuff but it didn't fully clear beast. Its not like Mr.Beast is the best person. I think the rest is really up to us to either research. Also not everyone understands that Mr beast is a company, he's not just gonna cut on the camera, sit in front, play said music and issue a corny apology. He's gonna resolve most issues he can before any of that and some of the stuff he's dealing with is probably tied to the court/lawyers, so he's not gonna speak out himself. He's gonna wait for people to do their own research.
Dang, that hair is coming in fast!! Based video here, even handed and fair, imo. Keep up the quality work man. Everyone makes mistakes. If everyone handled their mistakes as well as you did, the world would be a much nicer place to live...
Relatively new to your channel, but mad respect for saying you were wrong about things and taking accountability for it. More than Jimmy has done his whole career lmao
Honestly this entire debate is horrible, because everyone is acting in bad faith, and immediately assuming malice, rather than giving the benefit of the doubt. Dogpack could have still made a video pointing out mr beasts mistakes, without immediately jumping to the worst conclusion possible, and instead portrayed mr beast as foolish and irresponsible instead. Meanwhile Soggy doesn't give Dogpack the benefit of the doubt, by recognizing that Dogpack isnt intentionally acting in revenge or malice, but instead genuinely concerned about these issues. And the worst part is the people who are just picking sides, instead of actually building a conclusion for themselves.
32:42 first off no excuse for that one considering if you’re gonna say something you gotta know and have receipts for it or else that’s a dumb mistake that will make you look dumb or like a peice of crap so that means don’t say anything about it unless you certainly know
Hey Quintheo if your up for it I would like to discuss this with you if your up for it about the Soggy cereal, dog pack, Mr beast stuff there’s much more to this situation being overlooked and looked at wrong and I think it should be be talked about. But if not I understand please keep up the good work!
Quitheo I don’t think soggy working for MrBeast. I just think he’s looking at certain stuff the wrong way, which is fine. There’s multiple points that are being looked at wrong by everybody, including myself. But I think soggy was making a video on what he believed to be informative or believed to be a counter argument, so everybody gets the same picture just from two different ways, but with added context from dog packs former coworkers because if dog packs former coworkers reached out to soggy and then MrBeast did this this had to have been set up that doesn’t just happen in coincidentally fall into place, I have a hard time believing that Once again keep up the great content!
solid video ,did I believe he didn't know it would be used as a shield. hell no! the views from beast having people watch it is huuuuge. nothing with any substance was refuted though. like yeah dog pack is shady as fuck and probobly hurt his message, but what about the shit that doesn't rely entirely on us taking dog pack directly at his word?(which no sane person would)
You know what you content creators are just as bad as the news legacy yet again you let Mr beast off easy most of the crimes that he's done millions and millions of dollars you guys got to get down on your knees and you know what to say am done
KNEW IT… sorry but we probably shouldn’t have immediately just assumed dogpack was the hero and mrbeast was the villian but I still think some of the things Mr beast did was kind of shady
Bro you're so biased. Talks in-depth about what points soggy made that you don't agree with but then brushes off points that are valid and DP clearly lied about(eg. Illegal lottery video). 15:52
I literally said he made a really sound point in regard to it? Not dismissing it at all. I definitely could have done more in depth about everything in the video, but I only had criticism to give that I included in the video. Didn’t say he was wrong about that in any way lmao
The world could have a nation wide emergency happening, like ww3 or diddy having a underground sex ring where children and adults were taken advantage of. But I can always rely on youtubers to be covering every single sentence thats ever come out of Mr. BEAST or Dogpacks mouth. Lol
Well, when you guys are making false allegations and not doing the research, I think Fer is fair. You get what you give so I don’t feel bad for cam nuggets 45:38
Messed up how DP can make up so much and be believed whole heartedly and the other side (jimmy) is hated on as hard as possible. Then when DP gets exposed for lying, everyone shifts to the middle saying "both bad", "idk what is going on", "idk who to believe" and "ok im not gonna pick a side"
@@mariomario9209 My point is that even before soggy's video, trying to get people to recognise Dogpacks lies and bs was like pulling teeth, but everyone was happy to leap and bound onto the Mr Beast dogpile, when it turns out only like 4 or 5 core allegations are relevant or even real.
Soggy Cereal can't be talking, he literally steals other people's thumbnails. Regarding Feastables and Hershey's, he pointed out that Feastables is still healthier than Hershey’s. However, my argument was that it was advertised as healthy, and the downgrade in healthiness wasn’t acknowledged. Soggy Cereal is twisting my words in order to make himself look correct. I will be making a full debunk soon.
This Channel is fake, the name is *dogpark404*, It has two videos of 0:02 sec each with the same thumbnails as dogpack's videos and has like 67 subs. I think this comment should be deleted.
Quinteo had some really good takes. {On a side note: Only one mistake was made and that was about the eye surgery. while its true that mr beast only paid after made aware of not having paid for the surgeries, it is important to mention that blame was put on a third party to provide the full picture of the situation. Since the person who runs the organizations believes in the truthfulness of this being a stupid mishap I see no reason to dwell on it. That aside there are many instances of Mr beast manipulating viewers perspective in other philanthropy videos. So I dont want anyone to believe mr beast is always truthful in what he claims to do in his philanthropy channel. (on one case he claims to have build a hospital, which he was called out for in the comments for, because it was the government which build the hospital. So he does like to exaggerate and lie every now and then and a bit of cgi here and there to sensationalize his videos. Every thing else in this vid seems like W takes that are actually believable objective and not just ranting like soggy did for the most part.)}
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Mr Beast sending SoggyCereal's video to every big commentary channel instead of adressing all of the allegations himself is very very shady imo
Personally, I feel like that severely damages the credibility of Soggy's video because it gives the impression that he and Jimmy are working together. That may absolutely not be the case at all, but it still gives that impression.
Really immature and unprofessional behaviour
Completely agree@@anthonydicrecchio6547
@@anthonydicrecchio6547Soggy called Jimmy out for doing this and has said that Jimmy should respond.
soggy prob making some good cheddar from it
Dogpack isnt a journalist. Has 2 youtube videos not monetized, and just shed light on issues. Ones not responded to.
@@ZeromuS_ Doesn’t matter if he’s not a real journalist if he’s playing journalist on covering mrbeast and heavily fumbles the allegations.
One false statement is all that’s needed for him to be sued for defamation.
Like the false accusations about the cp or James Warren, or the illegal lotteries.
You dont need to be a journalist to not lie to millions of people.
He didn’t lie. He was very clear what he could corroborate or not. It’s gross that mrbeast glazers are trying to call him a liar just for repeating what MR BEAST’S OWN CREW CLAIMED. They were the ones passing around lewd images, gleefully saying it was a 13 year old. When someone does that you report it. It’s not on you to track down the girl and investigate it yourself. Jimmy’s crew were the ones lying, if she wasn’t 13, which is what they were claiming. As far as little nitpicks like the yacht, it’s not on Dawson to prove they stayed in a yacht. He gave the time lapse for you to decide for yourself. With the CGI and employees acting like contestants, just because they have an excuse that doesn’t make what dogpack say false or even misleading. Even if they have an excuse now, mrbeast & co were portraying it very differently at the time.
Given all that, dogpack has shown himself to be way more honest than mrbeast so when it comes to the “he said she said” parts, I don’t believe a word Jimmy says anymore and dogpack still has some credibility.
Btw, dogpack didn’t claim to have the original video and asked Jimmy to release the original video to debunk it if he was wrong.
@@aalvarez2914 he didnt lie about james warren stuff, he just happens to mistake james warren as a gf beater and a dog beater, and the photo of ivanka trump was not cheese pasta right? Lol
People seem to be forgetting this about him. Meanwhile soggy and other people who are making videos about DP now are (Turkey Tom and others like him) are going right back to siding with mrbeast.
Remember mr beast paid the flight of soggy, while not wanting to come for a face to face interview with more pegasus, and that soggy was allowed to interview mr beast employees while coffeezilla couldn't :)
yeah its because coffezilla is unbiased and I sort got the vibe of a personal dislike against dog pack but yeah also nice pfp what is it ?
to be fair, Mr.beast knew he could spin Soggy's video into a defense/positive outlook without Soggy really realizing, he knew he couldn't do the same for the others.
Remember dogpack accused an innocent man of animal abuse and domestic violence :). Dogpack will be lucky if he isn't sued till all his property is taken away from him
@@GhostFreakerhes not fucking innocent they are just both guilty the beast games medicine and other horrible actions are still a problem and coffezilla made it clear mrbeast is a shady crypto person
@@soul-of-cinder album cover from a band named Egypt central 🤣🤣
I couldn't watch the video past the Jake Weddle bit because I was flabbergasted how he just pretended like Jake didnt have massive pressure on him not to leave
Yeah at that point i was sure that soggy was an a**hole
Absolutely dude. He prides himself on being unbiased and just, but it’s really obvious he’s trying his best to defend Beast. People don’t understand that real ACTORS/ACTRESSES deal with that pressure and are often forced to do a lot they may not be comfortable with due to high production costs and continuity
@@christiancastillo-tamayo495 ive never heard of an actor being sleep deprevied and forced to do challanges like that
@@soul-of-cinder actually there is I forgot the movie but it's a horror movie which the director put them in real stress so it would come out good in the movie
Apparently soggy was paid flight and hotel accommodation to have an interview with Dawson's former co-workers. Dawson is a disgruntled employee but mrbeasts involvement gave lots of people the false impression that Mr beast is off the hook
Source?
ruclips.net/video/PU0y0bmag8k/видео.htmlsi=RL1hchm2fCASzV-W
@llynxfyremusic Chud logic interview with soggy cereal
Mr. Beast was never left off the hook. We just got revealed of lots DogPack’s lies and misinformation .
@@CanadianJamescheers
Its sketchy asf that Soggy maliciously took something completely out of context to attack and insinuate that Camnuggets was a "pizza enthusiast", without zero evidence, and used that as a spring board to attack Dogpack. It reaks of bias, and potentially I think he's lying about how much influence the Beast*tm had over his interviews and his access to active Beast employees, who we know are under NDAs. It appears from that Chudlogic interview Soggy did, that even he wasn't sure if it was Dustin was the one who paid for his trip over or not.
Honestly, I think the Beast*tm saw an opportunity and took it, including his million dollar crisis management team.
Dogpack didn’t handle everything nearly as well as he should have but at least he is getting a spotlight on the true issues that are there
^^^THIS^^^
So being wrong while making accusations and damaging your credibility while calling in to question all the other accusations is a good thing as long as the word gets out. Y’all are retarded
@@Bro-Sapienyes. Exactly. Because if he didnt.....then mr beast would still have the shield of him being this saint who xan do no wrong. And everyone would continue to ignore all the shit.
@ the only people that ever thought MrBeast was a saint are literal children… or retarded.
Yep. i never and a lot of people don't take everything DogPack says all true because some of his take in the videos are weird, but the big and true issue are there and real which is great that he brought it up. At least now whenever someone criticize him his fans can't use claim that he is a saint or whatever
Also I don’t care if Dawson lie or is a disgruntled ex employee. There’re still evidence that Mr. Beast isn’t the best person. He’s definitely shady. Some allegations have truths in them. Don’t believe RUclipsrs, use your critical thinking skills.
Okay anime wannabe
but that's what we're doing , no one is saying Mr Beast is a saint but if Dawson lied about one thing he can lie about everything. THAT is critical thinking and that is what Soggy showed , that he lied , he never said Mr Beast was a saint he in fact said Beast still has a lot to talk about/address
@@leorelictbh soggy cereal also lied to (take dogpacks statements out of context), soooo...just use your critical thinking skills i guess
@@alevitatingtrashcan7023 name what he took out of context because almost nothing he showed had incosistencies in them.
@@leorelic about the signature thing with the t-shirts
So soggy did actually say that other people can use the signature of mrbeast (needs permission) is legal. And make it argue that dogpack is wrong about it being illegal.
But...the thing is, dogpack did not say that it was fraud and he is leaning more to deceptive marketing
And here we have soggy cereal arguing something (which is true), but he is not arguing dogpacks statements. Thus, taking it out of context
All that being said. I don't think I've ever seen a haircut more reminiscent of Sid the bully from toy story
“Dogpack used dishonest tactics in some of his evidence and should be held accountable” and “Dogpack brought a spotlight to Jimmy’s questionable business practices that has led to concrete evidence of him being a shitty person” are two ideas that can and should coexist.
Does this really even excuse most of the game show allegations where he refused to give people medication and let people leave in stretchers and him being a prick to jake weddle and still not coming out about ava despite knowing?
It doesn’t, which are some of the points I talk about that are still left unanswered
they could leave whenever they wanted they didnt have to stay and its a game show for money its not gonna be easy to win money ppl complaining about getting hurt they are literally playing a game people get hurt in game alot of the time if they cant handle it they should have left instead of letting greed take them over
@ problem is most of these games were also rigged in favor of others and basic necessities like food and water are required for people to live, this was likely not even mentioned when they signed up not to mention when they wanted to get their belongings they were forced to look through hundreds of lockers to find their things
@@glow_amvthey ignored bare minimum OHSA requirements cmon dude
@@glow_amvyou don’t have to defend a millionaire who screwed over people my guy 😭
I watched soggies vid. and man was it subjective and narrow-minded at (all)times. He also happened to cherry pic examples to support his statements but ignored publicly known cases that would disprove his assumptions. He also makes the common mistake on generalizing one instance and assuming this is always the case. 12:30 makes me wonder wether soggy understands sarcasm. As someone who is very well endowed with Mr. beast in general and every important allegation out there, I can still say without a doubt in my mind Mr. Beast is a total pos. Like even only one of some of the many allegations going around should be carrier ruining, Mr beast still going strong means there is not enough awareness about him being a 2 faced fraudulent manipulator, which is so sad to see.
Yeah I thought some of DogPack's claims were just jokes and this guy took it too seriously!
Soggy Cereal still failed to address all of MrBeast's allegations, it feels a bit rushed but more like a basic slander against DogPack...
@@Tpbraut I don’t think DogPack should make jokes in an serious allegation type video..
@@volkankoyuncu8142yeah mistakes were made along the way
@@volkankoyuncu8142 Yeah he should not have done that, he probably think it should be fine but this makes his video hard to take seriously for many people and it is an ammunition for others
Soggy cherrypicks? Literally dogpack cherrypicks a lot more
The take away is that Dogpack was wrong, but not everything was wrong. I'd love it if Soggy would make another video that talked about everything else like the Beast Games and all of that stuff. He shows a very neutral broadcasting of what has happened, as shown with his twitter posts.
As someone else said, I wouldn't be surprised if Soggy ends up doing a deeper investigation into Mr Beast, considering how he's trying to use his video as his "response"
This entire situation is a mess due to Dogpack, we desperately need more neutral and truthful people investigating this in order for anything meaningful to come from it.
@@Ash21 I wouldn't say Soggy is any better.
Most of his video, take out maybe 3 points he made (which Quintheo mentions in this video), was his own melt-down-opinions rather than "debunking".
Soggy himself omitted information, constructed and presented said opinions as "facts" and "debunks", and above all was going on a rampage throughout video over things Dawson and Jake Weddle did/said, only do to the same things himself on the very same video...
His condescending manner and rage comes across as vengeful and childish which don't help him either.
If anything, I'd say Soggy, at this point, is as credible as Dawson- some points are valid and backed by what seem like actual evidence, some turned out to be either guesses and opinions or flat out lies.
There's also the whole none-apology thing with Camnuggets, one of the most wholesome youtubers I've ever watched! it's rather infuriating.
Insinuating that given more context, the point would've been valid is immensely stupid and reckless. He should've apologized straight away.
@@Lynn-nuna I 100% agree that Soggy isn't perfect either, but I think he's more trustworthy then dogpack at least.
Neither Dogpack or Soggy are neutral.
When someone is passionately defending a shady person... that's a biiiiig, big red flag. Those later tweets just reek of backtracking.
All in all, what we have before us is one giant mess...
I was giving Mr Beast the benefits of the doubt but then he partner up with a shady guy like Logan and his gang. That is a big red flag right there
I don’t like the point about the signatures. The whole point of collecting signatures is to get something from the actual person purported to have signed the item. Someone CAN sign on your behalf if you designate them to for legal documents or letters.
On Pawn Stars, usually when people find signatures of, for instance old presidents, the signatures have to be authenticated to ensure their secretaries didn’t sign them in order for them to be worth anything meaningful.
But hey, if you’re a collector who’s cool with potentially inauthentic collectibles, then by all means!
Chat, are we neutral?
We pulling a Switzerland on this bitch
90% of the doggycereal's video is like a hit piece on dogpack. I gave up on taking the guy seriously the moment he saw dogpack saying 'imma cook you' or something and thought this was a threat of harassment.
in all honesty I'm surprised he didn't take it as a threat to cannabilize him, but I guess he has more IQ points than the summers of alaska.
he should've either specified being a meatrider for mrbeast or that he has a hate boner for dawson. he juggled both and failed at sounding credible. also sus how he has confidential info that should only be accessible with company clearance, aka he was fed information by mrbeast co
Another thing about Soggy, he is a full-time RUclipsr. Dawson isn’t.
34:32 another reminder that Soggy is European. He probably doesn’t know American law on forging signatures.
his cereals soggy from all that glaze
The thing about Delaware's name is low hanging fruit. His brother debunked that rumor like immediately.
Yup, the stuff soggy covered is whatever shit that was already dealt with lots of times. Like employees being in the video cause of others having covid.
He did take 3 months to make this, in my head it makes sense that he would still cover it regardless
@@Quintheo i feel you. Its still kinda low hangin deuit though. Also i feel framing Dawson as a "liar" isnt fair at all. Especially with things like how he said they were on a yacht. He was saying he lied about that as if he could jave any idea at all if they were on a yacht or not. All he knew was what he could see, which was that in one scene they were gone and then suddenly back eith rain coats they manifested out of thin air with. To say Dawson was lying about that is extremely unfair. He obviously was just making an exaggerated guess cause where else could they be? And he was right, they were taken off the raft. For legitimate reasons that he would have no way of knowing about, but he was still correct about the video being misleading. Which is the main point, that mr beasts videos are edited to tell a certain narrative and isnt concerned with being honest and transparent about certain things.
@@goldenlotus3046 That's the issue I have with dogpack, you can't go around making exaggerated guesses/jokes when coming forward with serious allegations, you should only talk about what you know for certain.
@@goldenlotus3046Yeah dogpack didn’t lie he just put out the information he knew
Soggy is Belgian and I doubt that he fully understands American law.
Wait MrBeast can’t donate to making people walk because somebody else pulled out of a charity vid?
Donate anyway. Who cares if a vid gets made or not. Sheesh
I do think Soggy's video was a bit too sided with Jimmy, especially with the signature and downplaying of Jake's whole thing but outside of that and the camnuggets thing, I thought it was a really good video.
If we want Jimmy to face some sort of consequences for the things he's done, we gotta get our facts straight, this was a good start to that. In my opinion, Dogpack really should have just handed this off to someone who knows what they're doing from the very beginning.
Watch Spill Sesh on Mr. Beast. SoggyCereal was paid by Jimmy, his plane flight, hotel room and editing his video to debunk Dogpack. Also Mr. Beast contacted several Content Creators to boost Soggy's video.
"Dogpack worked for me, He's a fraud"
😱😱🤯🤯
12:15 this argument is dangerous, as it actively ignores how money, power imbalance, being recorded, and terrible sleep conditions can impact a person's ability to properly consent for themselves. Just because he made a "choice" doesnt mean there wasn't multiple pressures that impacted his consent. Along with that, just because it doesn't match the definition of a warcrime, doesn't make it any less a violation of human rights and health.
Let's not forget that Jake's mental health wasn't at a great place at the time, and that jimmy actively pressured him to keep going through it.
Gameshows honestly has destroyed the way people perceive contestants.
36:14 Soggy is making a huge assumption by stating it doesn't devalue the signature, when value is a purely arbitrary thing, that oftentimes is impacted by perceived value. I can say for certainty that to most collectors, a non-Jimmy Mr B signature WILL have a lower value.
Also dogpack literally corrects himself and says "not forge"
Hm, Call me crazy but how Soggy got so many insiders and current MrBeast emploes ? I don't hate Jimmy and I am not fan of DogPack, but it seams suspissions.
(I am not saying that Soggy lied, but I belive Mr Beast probably influenced in making this video. I don't belive he paid Soggy or something, but he definatly helped by sending people to him etc.
Soggy Cereal does come off as a Mr Beast pawn tho and it makes a lot of sense.
No he also criticizes mr beast amd says he needs to take accountability for his actions
He criticized mrbeast tho.
Saying "I'm not defending Mr Beast" repeatedly makes his behavior even more suspicious especially given the fact that Mr Beast himself commented his video. Also, how the f did Soggy get access to inside information like production footage as well as get paid to fly to the interview with Mr Beast employees
Soggy's video made my head hurt. The "rusty boat" is well upkept as for anyone who has stepped on a boat. Him saying that chandler's cousin is not immediate family is the same as OJ putting on the gloves. Proves nothing. When you say "hey guys buy this thing some of them will be signed by me which will make them more valuable for collectors" and then give the green light to a machine to do it and autosign a million copies is this fraud ? It's the same as me saying "handmade soap for sale" and it being made by a machine. This is false advertising, imagine meds did that.
But dogpack said it was a expensive yacht and that shit dont look like a yacht at all plus they left for a safety reason
@jaztyndanielfallorina3469 brother it's a freshly painted boat which we don't see the interior of compared to a wooden raft. Wanna see a video of me holding my breath for 10 hours straight ? I will just cut out the parts i breathe for safety reasons but still claim i didn't btw.
@@martinstoyanov5180 they were literally going to die if they didnt get out of the raft and you mad because a boat looks good
@@jaztyndanielfallorina3469 ofc they were going to die and they would fail the challenge which would make the video less long OR be honest about it in the first place. I'm mad cuz a boat looks nice ? Ur mad cuz u have no idea about the quality of seafaring ANYTHING.
@@martinstoyanov5180 im just saying that dog pack called this a luxury boat and they faked the challenge but it is an average boat
So now that all the big commentary channels are covering this, is everyone gonna go back to treating mrbeast like he's an angel or something? The fuck is wrong with youtube?
There is also some stuff to fully hate on mrbeast like the crypto stuff but soggy made a pretty good video plus stop glazing dogpack
Chud Logic interviewed Soggy and Soggy revealed that his trip to the U.S. to do the interviews with Beast employees, as well as his hotel accommodations, were paid for personally by a Beast employee. Although Soggy claims it wasn't paid for to his knowledge by the Beast company, it seems possible that the employee could have been reimbursed by the company. I feel that should have been disclosed by Soggy because that can easily be used as ammunition against him. Makes a bit of sense to me that Soggy didn't prod any of the employees for more information and just agreed with everything they had to say.
Personally, I do agree with you that it was a good thing that Dogpack brought some of these Beast allegations to light. BUT, I think he did a very poor job at presenting the information and researching his claims because so many of them were purely hearsay. In his video, Dogpack says he doesn't like hearsay and we should believe him based on his receipts. But his receipts were mostly unreliable, unsubstantiated, anonymous, unable to be proven, or a combination of those. So ultimately, we had to rely on the hearsay. In my opinion, Dogpack has a personal vendetta.
I'm glad that Soggy made his video and we are finally seeing someone question the validity of Dogpack's claims. That being said, I think it is very suspicious that Soggy was paid to come do the interviews and that he didn't disclose it, as well as Beast reaching out to other commentary channels asking them to cover his video. It doesn't seem implausible that Soggy was working alongside Beast, perhaps even compensated, for being some undercover PR for the company. Sure, he's playing the "I was used" card, but that would be a great way to try and distance yourself from Beast. Again, if he wasn't, it's unfortunate for him that he wasn't smart enough to have the foresight that people may become suspicious that he didn't disclose that his trip was paid for by a beast employee. May want to cover that Quintheo :)
Chud Logic Interview: ruclips.net/video/PU0y0bmag8k/видео.html
Harmful Opinions video which speaks on this: ruclips.net/video/oqdIJXbPeFE/видео.html
Finally, somebody who understands nuance, Jesus. I've watched videos from channels both defending and attacking Beast, and the absolute dichotomy of the comment sections is insane. It can be true that everybody in a given situation is terrible, and also that nobody is. It feels like Soggy's addressing of Dogpack's claims was *mostly* correct, but also extremely shady that he didn't disclose his flights etc. paid for.
Beast has clearly done some bad stuff, but nowhere near to the full extent of Dogpack's allegations. Definitely a molehill there, but Dogpack is really trying to make a mountain out of it.
I think a thing to note about the delware situation is after his first appearance they gave him a nickname (Zoro) and still put a mask on him, Jimmy 100 percent knew after the first video.
Hold on a second, either dogpack or someone else cleared out the "free entry" thing very well, its just a legal disclaimer they have to include, but they make impossible through practical means
Quin I have a question I don’t know if it’s relate to this video but there is something not right about mrbeast philanthropy video. The thing when he says the name about country he didn’t precisely telling the name of city where he help people because some documentaries they always telling which city what is going for the context. But him Jimmy, he just release just the name of country like that . I don’t know but It look suspicious because,is it private or public place to film it?
Everyone, remember mr beast paid for soggy's travel, + a lot wasn't adressed
In the girl vs boys what about the fact that the girls got the drones and not the boys? Why focus only on the accusations of fake videos that soggy could debunk, but not the ones he couldn't? Like the hospital which seems pretty hard to destroy. What about the fact that during those "non illegal" loterries mr beast said "in the next 5 minutes we will put 10,000 dollars in an order" and do it like 7 minutes after? Or the shadman drawing in the room of Ava where he even filmed a video, just to pretend afterwarss he wasn't aware at all of her behavior? Like COME ON i hate to see that he only focused on what he could debunk, but literally didn't validate any of those points which seem true, that's not a "fair" investigation, that's basically attacking dogpack on any ground you can because you don't like him
MrBeast pays for everyone's travel who comes overseas to talk to him. This isn't a new thing.
@dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideos nah, when he asked more pegasus for an online interview, and then asked to make it a face to face one, he didn't propose to either come or pay for his travel fees
@@azertyazerty2565 Just because he didn't propose it, doesn't mean he wouldn't have done. If Pegasus had asked, he would've.
Soggy cereal litrally admitted getting a paid trip and have preplanned interviews with staff.
He’s future videos are now very questionable.
He’s a paid journalist from beast what about all the crypto scams and the real issues he dodged them all
this is the plot twist of all time
soggies video is extremelly biased . He also failed to mention that mr beast paid him
Have you seen Pegasus community post? He ended up talking to Jimmy and they had planned an interview which was "coincidentally" cancelled by Mr Beast's team last minute. It also seems that Jimmy DMed Pegasus Soggy's video which Pegasus is not falling for, he's remaining objective.
Im not done watching however, regarding the phone recording: north carolina is a one party consent state. Even if the person being recorded didnt consent to it, they can still use it. We can assume, since they are based in NC, that the call took place in NC. i dont think the consent part devalues the information provided, nor is it dogpacks' burden to bear as he is not the person who was in that call.
I watched soggys video in full, and he acts as if the consent was a gotcha on dogpack. Even if it was, it would only prove dogpack is "pretty shitty" when it comes to how he treats those hes using as evidence (he could have edited the voice better).
Ill keep watching now lmao
This Drama is more complicated than the Balkans. And trust me im Serbian. I dont understand why we Balkan people fight anymore.
I commented talking about this and you did it, thanks!
Keep killing it man. Jealous of your quick amazing growth. Don’t draw the line at beast drama. You’re just GOOD.
He'll be irrelevant after mrbeast drama ends, thought not yet. People only watch him for drama and don't care about him.
I disagree. I think people enjoy the way he outputs drama and content compared to other general commentary channels. As someone who’s growing, you can’t waste an opportunity of people loving you and what you do on just one subject matter. We love you for you, not for the drama you put out. You’re too healthy of a person to keep going with this RUclips Garbo but just. Keep going for us. Not for the sake of anybodies ego or clout. I’ll happily pay your bills while I pay my own. No harm. No foul. Only love. ❤️
This is my third watch of Soggy's video and I just realised that 58 debunked one of Chucky's points
He said he heard the other guy yell out but Chucky said he didn't hear
Not a big deal or anything but a little funny
In my opinion that no one cares about no one is trustworthy, and there are things that just personally bothers me, like the lotteries for example, some of them might not have been illegal but they still were saying things to like make people to buy, that they're giving "everyone something" or "not making profit" which, again in my opinion, is scamy, also a thing that wasn't mentioned and it bithered me personally was the contest of feastables to pack the shelves or something? Making children in the majority ask workers for the chocolates and such basically making them work, the gamble side of it as well buy chocolate and spin the wheel with the QR code, the convoluted way to get into the free entry by sending letters, the ingredient change on the chocolate that mr beast said it was "infinitely better for you" which, no it isn't, in soggy's video in particular it kinda bothered me how he basically dismissed what Jake went through, also saying that it worked with other people which Jake said (as far as I remember) that he gave them like tips on things to do or not do if they did something similar after, and the Delaware thing, there's no excuse in my eyes for keeping him after realizing he was a rso, also the "no doesn't mean no" thing it's still messed up no matter the context, just call it something else. Dogpack lied a lot, Soggy dismissed and discarded a lot too, mr beast hasn't said a word about the most important things (I think I wrote too much and I fear I didn't get my point across 🙃)
sloppy cereal is actually extremely bad faith, but that’s probably pretty clear to everyone able to tell at least sarcasm apart from actual conversation.
Yeah soggy was in bad faith probably associated with mrbeast. But was dogpack also not doing it in bad faith?
Honestly Kavernackle and Pinely have been the best critics of mr beast, as their points come from philosophies and baselines, and their completely honest about that, and embraces it. Kavernackle ESPECIALLY, and I wish more people watched his videos
You can’t take anything from his interview me with staff because they were litrally setup in the beast offices 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think soggy had fair points. It did disprove some stuff but it didn't fully clear beast. Its not like Mr.Beast is the best person. I think the rest is really up to us to either research.
Also not everyone understands that Mr beast is a company, he's not just gonna cut on the camera, sit in front, play said music and issue a corny apology. He's gonna resolve most issues he can before any of that and some of the stuff he's dealing with is probably tied to the court/lawyers, so he's not gonna speak out himself.
He's gonna wait for people to do their own research.
Even if you agreed with some of soggy's claims there's a feeling that you're still biased towards dogpack.
Dang, that hair is coming in fast!! Based video here, even handed and fair, imo. Keep up the quality work man. Everyone makes mistakes. If everyone handled their mistakes as well as you did, the world would be a much nicer place to live...
Also your hairstyle almost looks like mine except I have black hair
I used to watch Soggy Cereal. He fell off fr fr. I wouldn’t say he’s a sell out though.
Quick question, are you biased towards dogpack?
I'm really glad you addressed this.I have a lot of the same opinions
Who is taking no side being netrually hostile toward both side like me from the start? I have a popcorn to enjoy 😂
Relatively new to your channel, but mad respect for saying you were wrong about things and taking accountability for it. More than Jimmy has done his whole career lmao
Honestly this entire debate is horrible, because everyone is acting in bad faith, and immediately assuming malice, rather than giving the benefit of the doubt. Dogpack could have still made a video pointing out mr beasts mistakes, without immediately jumping to the worst conclusion possible, and instead portrayed mr beast as foolish and irresponsible instead. Meanwhile Soggy doesn't give Dogpack the benefit of the doubt, by recognizing that Dogpack isnt intentionally acting in revenge or malice, but instead genuinely concerned about these issues. And the worst part is the people who are just picking sides, instead of actually building a conclusion for themselves.
Mr.Beast Logan Paul enough said. His mindset is truly for the money.
17:14 how? What are the points that convinced you?
Wacht more of the video
@jaztyndanielfallorina3469 I watched the entire video, fyi. But that doesn't matter because by the timestamp point, he was already convinced.
You're a good youtuber. Good yaps yet again o7
I swear anything about this drama is confusing now I don't know who believe
Ain't RUclips drama's just amazing?
Yeah wtf everything just got flipped so hard
@@goofyrat2938 I don't know what this year is this point this is the most confusing drama I ever seen
@@FangTamarayeah 2024 has not been it, hopefully 2025 is better
@@goofyrat2938and we don't who tilling the truth, lot of them don't add up form both of sides of drama
someone summarize the video cause I aint watching 52 minutes
Very well made and thought out video well done quin 👍 w takes
32:42 first off no excuse for that one considering if you’re gonna say something you gotta know and have receipts for it or else that’s a dumb mistake that will make you look dumb or like a peice of crap so that means don’t say anything about it unless you certainly know
I am against what Mr Beast has done. Jimmy is pretty scummy
Yeah mrbeast is scummy, but so is dogpack.
I’m sorry bro but I can’t sit through 50 mins, ima take it day by day only cause I trust you
This is just like the edp situation all over again 💀💀💀
Hey Quintheo if your up for it I would like to discuss this with you if your up for it about the Soggy cereal, dog pack, Mr beast stuff there’s much more to this situation being overlooked and looked at wrong and I think it should be be talked about.
But if not I understand please keep up the good work!
Quitheo I don’t think soggy working for MrBeast. I just think he’s looking at certain stuff the wrong way, which is fine. There’s multiple points that are being looked at wrong by everybody, including myself. But I think soggy was making a video on what he believed to be informative or believed to be a counter argument, so everybody gets the same picture just from two different ways, but with added context from dog packs former coworkers because if dog packs former coworkers reached out to soggy and then MrBeast did this this had to have been set up that doesn’t just happen in coincidentally fall into place, I have a hard time believing that
Once again keep up the great content!
Hop in discord and I’m sure we could chat sometime
dogpack 403 Forbidden clout chaser
solid video ,did I believe he didn't know it would be used as a shield. hell no! the views from beast having people watch it is huuuuge.
nothing with any substance was refuted though. like yeah dog pack is shady as fuck and probobly hurt his message, but what about the shit that doesn't rely entirely on us taking dog pack directly at his word?(which no sane person would)
You know what you content creators are just as bad as the news legacy yet again you let Mr beast off easy most of the crimes that he's done millions and millions of dollars you guys got to get down on your knees and you know what to say am done
Did you not watch the video?
Bruh watch the vid
22:59 To play devils advocate Dawson could’ve also just been lying like he’s done several times.
I was in the video (:
KNEW IT… sorry but we probably shouldn’t have immediately just assumed dogpack was the hero and mrbeast was the villian but I still think some of the things Mr beast did was kind of shady
I dont think dogpack even wanted that
The best choice to do is be a spectator instead of choosing sides
Yeah, this isn’t a movie. People are all morally grey in some way.
Bro you're so biased. Talks in-depth about what points soggy made that you don't agree with but then brushes off points that are valid and DP clearly lied about(eg. Illegal lottery video). 15:52
I literally said he made a really sound point in regard to it? Not dismissing it at all. I definitely could have done more in depth about everything in the video, but I only had criticism to give that I included in the video. Didn’t say he was wrong about that in any way lmao
Being biased is guranteed, you should be the one making the decisions in your head on who to agree with
The world could have a nation wide emergency happening, like ww3 or diddy having a underground sex ring where children and adults were taken advantage of.
But I can always rely on youtubers to be covering every single sentence thats ever come out of Mr. BEAST or Dogpacks mouth.
Lol
Dogpack accusing James Warren shows everything you need to know about him. He will be the luckiest guy alive if James doesn't sue him 6 feet under
Well, when you guys are making false allegations and not doing the research, I think Fer is fair. You get what you give so I don’t feel bad for cam nuggets 45:38
cereal > dogpack
Oh no... Bro's income source got exposed ☠️🙏🏻
I knew it
Messed up how DP can make up so much and be believed whole heartedly and the other side (jimmy) is hated on as hard as possible. Then when DP gets exposed for lying, everyone shifts to the middle saying "both bad", "idk what is going on", "idk who to believe" and "ok im not gonna pick a side"
@@DDArtsArts its because jimmy still has multiple examples of unforgivable crap that still holds up no matter dogpack’s lies
@@mariomario9209 My point is that even before soggy's video, trying to get people to recognise Dogpacks lies and bs was like pulling teeth, but everyone was happy to leap and bound onto the Mr Beast dogpile, when it turns out only like 4 or 5 core allegations are relevant or even real.
Soggy Cereal can't be talking, he literally steals other people's thumbnails. Regarding Feastables and Hershey's, he pointed out that Feastables is still healthier than Hershey’s. However, my argument was that it was advertised as healthy, and the downgrade in healthiness wasn’t acknowledged.
Soggy Cereal is twisting my words in order to make himself look correct. I will be making a full debunk soon.
This Channel is fake, the name is *dogpark404*, It has two videos of 0:02 sec each with the same thumbnails as dogpack's videos and has like 67 subs. I think this comment should be deleted.
Quinteo had some really good takes.
{On a side note: Only one mistake was made and that was about the eye surgery. while its true that mr beast only paid after made aware of not having paid for the surgeries, it is important to mention that blame was put on a third party to provide the full picture of the situation. Since the person who runs the organizations believes in the truthfulness of this being a stupid mishap I see no reason to dwell on it. That aside there are many instances of Mr beast manipulating viewers perspective in other philanthropy videos. So I dont want anyone to believe mr beast is always truthful in what he claims to do in his philanthropy channel. (on one case he claims to have build a hospital, which he was called out for in the comments for, because it was the government which build the hospital. So he does like to exaggerate and lie every now and then and a bit of cgi here and there to sensationalize his videos. Every thing else in this vid seems like W takes that are actually believable objective and not just ranting like soggy did for the most part.)}