Each one would want to be queen over all the others, and also feel she's the most popular and prettiest one. Having grown up with two sisters, that's my guess anyways.
It was. And televised. Was called Kid Nation; was a reality show on NBC 20 yrs ago or so. Theres a podcast called SplitScreen: KidNation that will really hit home the similarities.
Germans: mein faderland is the greatest, i will bravely confront any enemies who dare to challenge our authorities. British: I will sacrifice myself to protect my motherland and serve the Queen. Switzerland point of view: 2:36
I knew Muzafer Sherif personally in the later years of his life. He explained these concepts to me, and I have utilized his methods in successfully navigating and resolving group conflict. The world is currently at a precipice where these concepts, specifically, Superordinate Goals, may apply and literally avert WW3/nuclear annihilation. Anyone out there make this connection? This may be Muzafer's gift to humanity.
wasn't this hypothesized in "Lord of the Flies"? which was first copyrighted in 1954? it is man's nature to dominate else why or how could the species have survived?
And by work together do you mean being skeptical of companies that use old methods of energy production and relying (while ignorant) yourself on those same methods, but being completely blindly faithful in energy corporations who say they are fighting climate change and giving them endless funds paid by increased taxes. Furthermore there's a jingoistic mentality on the neoliberal left in the us, which somehow thinks the US should fix this problem while ignoring China being the main contributor to anthropogenic global climate change. Finally, partisan politics have become exactly the point this video, tribalism where one side sees themselves as good and the other as bad... Since a majority of Hollywood, corporate media, Wall Street, and silicon valley are currently invested in the Democratic party, the people elected for that party same intent on representing the other as deplorable which of course is not the start for a workable cooperative effort, not to mention quite jingoistic considering there are many other countries in the world.
@@oudguitar why even bother mention "left", "china" or "democractic party", when this clearly was a quote on human beings b e f o r e other identities. why not start with yourself before assuming others would be judgy.
unfortunately he also pushed the boys towards this behaviour and only chose the run of the study where his hypthesis got confirmed. that is not up to todays scientific standards
Did lord of the flies end with them all being friends and learning to work together? I'm not being sarcastic I've never read the book I just know some kid named piggy dies.
@@justcody4615i know this is a late reply but they’re stranded on an island and have to work together but then conflict and fighting begins to break out
What a load of BS! It has been proven that the test results were rigged to confirm Sharif's theory and that the initial first experiment which is not mentioned here took place the previous year with a different group of boys. It not only disproved Sharifs theory but clearly demonstrated the boys natural inclination towards fairness and cooperation. Angered by the result he went on to construct another experiment a year later where the methods used and the rules applied were clearly designed to achieve the results he needed to support his premise and theory. Like scientists prodding rats in a maze for a desired outcome, rather than just observing the rats for a pure result.Someone needs to make a documentary about this appalling episode in human psychological experimentation.
More of direction (controlled variables) than research (independent variables), but valid in some understandings too. To control persons means to identify patterns that could create shared hostile psychological states. Now we better know what it takes to trigger. There is also the factor of homogeneity. Everybody the same sets things up differently. I believe that if the groups had diversity, the research would've turned out different. It still ain't too applicable to real life, however, as even the kids know they will get to go home later.
Thanks for pointing this out, I will look into this. Sounds like what the pharmaceuticals do in regards to the safety and efficacy testing of most of their products, particularly vaccines. Not hard to believe this occurs. This is why independent studies are needed to test for repetitive results.
Hi Gursel Ali, do you have any link or article or book name for me where the rigging is made public? I'm always interested in this kind of reports, because in early psychology the results are oftentimes "too clear" and too good to be true. Also e.g. with the Hawthorne Study in Chicago.
You can look at other subsequent articles which tested his theory and it works. There are also meta-analyses with treated controls and large sample sizes! Stop spewing bullshit!
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me
yes and i need help... what did the children think they were doing? i watched the vid a hundred times and nothing registering ughh
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Still haven't gotten over the name "Cummings Center for the History of Psychology" so i haven't learned shit
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basically lord of the flies
This really helped a lot to understand the experiment.
Working together for something better for both groups dissipates prejudice. A conclusion worth considering.
Thanks for keeping it short as well!
The kids chanting in the background for the first 2 minutes was annoying af.
Some Random agreed. Would be awesome otherwise
i only noticed when i read your comment :P
exactly why would u have that volume higher or equal to your voice
@@john-yf3bh I kept thinking some other video was playing on another tab
YES!!! Thus the reason it is the most replayed part of the video. My brain couldn't process the words over the noise.
This is a really useful summary of the study. Thanks
This video is super clear and I love the explanation! Unfortunately the singing noise in the background is really bad....
This is really helpful. Thank you very much for this historic video material.
I was learning this in class
I would love to see this experiment replicated today with either girls or co-ed and see if they get the same or different results.
Each one would want to be queen over all the others, and also feel she's the most popular and prettiest one. Having grown up with two sisters, that's my guess anyways.
It was. And televised. Was called Kid Nation; was a reality show on NBC 20 yrs ago or so. Theres a podcast called SplitScreen: KidNation that will really hit home the similarities.
This was interesting...Thanx for sharing this...Live near there, & never heard of this...
Germans: mein faderland is the greatest, i will bravely confront any enemies who dare to challenge our authorities.
British: I will sacrifice myself to protect my motherland and serve the Queen.
Switzerland point of view: 2:36
this is the best comment on this whole video where are all the likes haha
I thought this was gonna be scary or a tragedy
I knew Muzafer Sherif personally in the later years of his life. He explained these concepts to me, and I have utilized his methods in successfully navigating and resolving group conflict. The world is currently at a precipice where these concepts, specifically, Superordinate Goals, may apply and literally avert WW3/nuclear annihilation. Anyone out there make this connection? This may be Muzafer's gift to humanity.
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Excellent work!
the singing in the back BRUH
thanks for creating this
nice video bro
Much clearer On the experiment now that look at it again.
why are they all just river phoenix in stand by me?
And so NBC made this a reality show called Kid Nation in early 2000's. Its both terrifying & mesmerizing.
Been to Robbers Cave many a day.
stage 3 didn't actually eliminate prejudicial behavior, it reduced it.. unfortunately
Fantastic experiment!
@ 2:56 I can smell this picture
i live in wilburton where robbers cave is at, i can almost promise nobody around here has heard of this.
wasn't this hypothesized in "Lord of the Flies"? which was first copyrighted in 1954? it is man's nature to dominate else why or how could the species have survived?
That background noise made it impossible to focus at the beginning
Here's the experiment the universe has for the entire human kind: work together to avoid Climate change catastrophe.
Another tax scam doesn't seem like a worthy experiment
And by work together do you mean being skeptical of companies that use old methods of energy production and relying (while ignorant) yourself on those same methods, but being completely blindly faithful in energy corporations who say they are fighting climate change and giving them endless funds paid by increased taxes. Furthermore there's a jingoistic mentality on the neoliberal left in the us, which somehow thinks the US should fix this problem while ignoring China being the main contributor to anthropogenic global climate change. Finally, partisan politics have become exactly the point this video, tribalism where one side sees themselves as good and the other as bad... Since a majority of Hollywood, corporate media, Wall Street, and silicon valley are currently invested in the Democratic party, the people elected for that party same intent on representing the other as deplorable which of course is not the start for a workable cooperative effort, not to mention quite jingoistic considering there are many other countries in the world.
@@oudguitar why even bother mention "left", "china" or "democractic party", when this clearly was a quote on human beings b e f o r e other identities. why not start with yourself before assuming others would be judgy.
As the boys were starving for food, i fail to understand if it was just working for something better or a question of survival.
So freaking interesting
WE'RE HERE BECAUSE OF SCHOOL
not to be rude but kinda, why the hell would you put loud voices in the background
It's possible the goal of this experiment has been misunderstood. It wasn't a failure in social engineering. Just look around you.
hi josh
NO OFFENSE BUT CAN THE CHANTING, IN THE BEGINNING, BE TAKEN OFF. IT'S EXTREMELY DISTRACTING. THANK YOU.
Very distracting and unnecessary
unfortunately he also pushed the boys towards this behaviour and only chose the run of the study where his hypthesis got confirmed. that is not up to todays scientific standards
Oh my
Lord of flies in a nutshell
Did lord of the flies end with them all being friends and learning to work together? I'm not being sarcastic I've never read the book I just know some kid named piggy dies.
@@justcody4615i know this is a late reply but they’re stranded on an island and have to work together but then conflict and fighting begins to break out
i wanna be in one of these experiments ...
Anyone here from the Entwicklung und Lernen Lecture?
What a load of BS! It has been proven that the test results were rigged to confirm Sharif's theory and that the initial first experiment which is not mentioned here took place the previous year with a different group of boys. It not only disproved Sharifs theory but clearly demonstrated the boys natural inclination towards fairness and cooperation. Angered by the result he went on to construct another experiment a year later where the methods used and the rules applied were clearly designed to achieve the results he needed to support his premise and theory. Like scientists prodding rats in a maze for a desired outcome, rather than just observing the rats for a pure result.Someone needs to make a documentary about this appalling episode in human psychological experimentation.
More of direction (controlled variables) than research (independent variables), but valid in some understandings too. To control persons means to identify patterns that could create shared hostile psychological states. Now we better know what it takes to trigger.
There is also the factor of homogeneity. Everybody the same sets things up differently. I believe that if the groups had diversity, the research would've turned out different. It still ain't too applicable to real life, however, as even the kids know they will get to go home later.
Thanks for pointing this out, I will look into this. Sounds like what the pharmaceuticals do in regards to the safety and efficacy testing of most of their products, particularly vaccines. Not hard to believe this occurs. This is why independent studies are needed to test for repetitive results.
Hi Gursel Ali,
do you have any link or article or book name for me where the rigging is made public?
I'm always interested in this kind of reports, because in early psychology the results are oftentimes "too clear" and too good to be true. Also e.g. with the Hawthorne Study in Chicago.
No there hasn't
You can look at other subsequent articles which tested his theory and it works. There are also meta-analyses with treated controls and large sample sizes! Stop spewing bullshit!
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